Science, Religion, and the Big Bang
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+Tony Koter what is it?
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@@chloroplast8611 y r u so mad
Sounds cool but a little crazy and with many unanswered questions. Such incredibly complicated theories only to, subconciously, kick God out of the scene. God is Alpha, no beginning. He created ecerytjing in a clearly intelligent way.
"It's been so everywhere you don't even need a where. You don't even need a when. That's how every it gets."
-Bill Wurtz
THE SUN IS A DEADLY LAZER
@@kibriahelal5698 NOT ANYMORE THERE'S A BLANKET
God doesn't exist bro
I thought I was having a stroke while reading this.
IT’S THE CAAAAAMBRIAN EXPLOSION
"Thats how every it gets."
Man of culture
That’s a thing, in a place!
@@andrewparker318 Don't like it? Try new place!
@@aytekinkaraca5971 in a different *time*
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This is really superb. Best description I've heard of what the Big Bang really is.
+Abderrahim BOUGUERRA
Just because some people interpret a book as agreeing with science doesn't make it in any way relevant enough to be deemed 'confirming'. The most popular religions outright dispute life on other planets, or the fact that the earth revolves around the sun and is round.
Religions may confirm science in some interpretations, but science doesn't need to be 'confirmed' by fairy tales.
+PBS Space Time You guys should do a collab with minute physics! That's be pretty awesome to see! :D
so chaos produces information! ? brilliance!!!!! i think the "in the beginning" had better evidence than this
Agent Paste
Earth revolving around the sun is not a fact lol!
The Big Bang has been totally proven false today by modern science itself!!
Lorenzo H
Modern Science has discovered and proven time and time again that the Earth is the center of the universe. Because of this fact the only viable conclusion is that it was designed that way from the start.
Since the discovery of the predicted CMBR in 1963 ....scientists in 1978 discovered "disturbing" anisotropies in the Cosmic Background Radiation (CMB).....that according to the Big Bang hypothesis must not be there. It is so disturbing that after almost 10 years of preparations... NASA sends up the COBE Probe in 1990 to investigate. COBE confirms there are "problems" for the Big Bang!
They then send up another probe in 2001 specifically to focus in on the anisotropies! The name of the probe speaks for itself....the "Wilkinson Anisotropy Microwave Probe." This probe is way more sensitive than COBE and confirms the COBE findings! However, they also find more "disturbing" and puzzling information via Max Tegmark. The anomalies form axis that goes from one end of the universe to the other. What's more puzzling is that WMAP finds that very important poles of the CMB are NOT random! the quadrupole and the octupole. They both align within the 23.5° plane of the earth right to the ecliptic plane! This was dubbed the Axis of Evil in 2003! Why evil? Because it completely undermines the very foundations of cosmology & cosmogony! It falsifies Einstein, Hubble and the LambdaCDM (Big Bang).....most importantly...it falsifies the Copernican Principle!! Utterly astounding!!!
And again because of these astounding and again disturbing alignments....THEY send up ANOTHER probe in 2009!!! The All Powerful Planck Probe! Super sensitive and HD and way more powerful then COBE and WMAP! In 2013 the data is released and ALL CONFIRMED!!! IN HD!!! The whole universe is ALIGNED right to the earth's locale!!! Incredible!! 3 probes at a cost of over $2 Billion.....CONFIRM what was hinted at in 1978!!
As in baseball....3 strikes....you're out!
Here's a 2006 article of the famous athiest physicist Lawrence Krauss commenting on WMAP's discovery of these alignments. Bear in mind he's of the mindset that the Planck Probe will later rule the data out as errors or some sort of contamination.
Lawrence Krauss:
"But when you look at CMB map, you also see that the structure that is observed, is in fact, in a weird way, correlated with the plane of the earth around the sun. Is this Copernicus coming back to haunt us? That's crazy. We're looking out at the whole universe. There's no way there should be a correlation of structure with our motion of the earth around the sun - the plane of the earth around the sun - the ecliptic. That would say we are truly the center of the universe. The new results are either telling us that all of science is wrong and we're the center of the universe, or maybe the data is imply incorrect, or maybe it's telling us there's something weird about the microwave background results and that maybe, maybe there's something wrong with our theories on the larger scales." Hmmm...he's saying .."This would SAY we are TRULY the CENTER of the UNIVERSE!"
Here's the link with his thoughts on the very last 2 paragraphs:
www.edge.org/conversation/the-energy-of-empty-space-that-isn-39t-zero
And again one year later in 2007 this from the CMB team Huterer, Swartz and co. appeared in Astronomy Magazine :
www-personal.umich.edu/~huterer/PRESS/CMB_Huterer.pdf
Notice they are asking "Why"....not "Is" because to the team the alignments are all confirmed with confidence despite Planck's future data!! Another ASTONISHING findings from the team is that the temperature of 1/2 of the universe is hotter than the other!!! The dividing line is "precisely at the ecliptic plane"! THE EARTH'S ECLIPTIC PLANE! You'll see the information on the very last page under "Ecliptic Oddities".
They report that the likelihood of these alignments happening by chance is less than 0.1 percent! Lastly on the same last page under: The elusive explanation "Many cosmologists find the various CMB alignments extremely unlikely to have occurred by chance. Moreover, nearly all the alignments point to the solar system’s motion or the orientation of the ecliptic plane. Is there a deeper explanation?"....they are dumbfounded!
The information destroys the big bang and and yet they still must refer to the supposed "motion" of the Solar System and the motion of the earth!!! The earth is supposed to be in "Some forgotten corner of the universe" as Carl Sagan asserted because of the Big Bang Theory!! Yet...today we find the whole of the universe aligned and oriented to "our little forgotten corner"! This means the Big Bang if it has any credibility left whatsoever, KNEW the earth was coming.....and ALIGNED itself ...with the Earth!
The earth is static and the center of the universe. fyi....All laboratory empirical evidence confirms as well! .03% randon 99.97% ....Designed!
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My favourite comment here! xD
Impressive. I had no idea what this means.
Best comment.
THE COSMIC STRETCH
there I fixed it for you
this comment is really underrated!! you're epic, mate!!
Fascinating and informative video! As a Catholic theologian, I would like to point out that the philosophical conviction that "God is Creator" does not exclude an eternal universe. The Catholic conception of God as creator properly understood is that He is the "ground of being," meaning that everything that exists depends on God, not necessarily that things came into being at a finite point in time. LeMaitre knew this, no doubt, as he is a much smarter man than me. Again, thank you for the video. It deepened my understanding of the "Everywhere Stretch" Theory! :)
The Catholic it is the invention of mafiosos lucrative scumbags pedophilus they invented the crappy religious and from there on other religious Branch off just to poison the world and to steal people's money and to teach poison this is your crappy faith and yet god does not exist is just a crappy lie and you believe that scrap
Genesis 1:1 In the BEGINNING God created the Heavens and the Earth.
Your comment is one more reason for Christians not think that Big Bang is a proof of God's existence. Whether or not the universe is infinitely old, it's irrelevant for faith because religious faith and theology are irrational and ilogic, those aren't committed with truth, objectivity and facts.
"The universe as infinitely old" is compatible with Christian faith; "the universe as finitely old" is compatible with Christian faith as well. Everything is compatible with Christian faith.
@naturesinfinitewellthecause unlike their God, our God actually revealed himself.
He became flesh and walked through earth, after he died, he sends the Holy Ghost to guide the Church.
Miracles of the Churchs still didn't die as saints are continuing God's work in the 20th century.
So in summary, we're not sure yet
That's what I heard lol
Franklin Missark - yep, we aren't sure yet, and that's actually what drives science.
And of course we may never know. Science gets better and better, but it seems unlikely that science will ever give us absolute knowledge. It seems to me that there will always be a boundary that science pushes against, but when we overcome that boundary, we will likely discover some new boundary.
The only thing "beginning" at the big bang is the beginning of our current knowledge of the universe.
The theory is based on many things, including and especially _quantum mechanics._
The theory of quantum mechanics has its own problems and limitations, and the limit that the big bang comes up against is _space:_ If the expanding universe is extrapolated back in time far enough, it would at some point occupy a region of space smaller than the *Planck length,* and nothing smaller than that has any meaning in quantum mechanics. We cannot compute _anything_ with quantum mechanics if it is smaller than the Planck length.
The big bang represents the point at which we _know nothing,_ which is totally different to the supposed point at which _nothing exists._
It is pure sophistry on the part of Christians to conflate the beginning of our current _knowledge_ about the universe with the beginning of _everything._
The claim that the universe began with the big bang is nothing more than the old _god of the gaps_ argument.
We're pretty sure about most of it, just not what happened before a trillionth of a trinnionth of a second after the big bang.
If you don't know, you don't know.
This will always hurt my brain. I mean...where did this infinite come from? Why is it here? Oh dear...I need to sit down.
+ByteMe it didn't come from anywhere in our universe, it came from a collision of universes in the multiverse. Also it doesn't need a purpose for existence it just is, kind of like humans.
SuperWhaleProduction Where did those universes in the multiverse come from?
+ByteMe From a much more complex multiverse perhaps... The list can go on and on forever. No explanation is for certain.
ByteMe I don't know since the multiverse isn't proven yet so until we prove the multiverse we can't really ask about the next step
Ziquafty Nny Do you believe in a higher power?
Just gotta say, this video still has one of my favorite visuals for explaining to my high-school Astronomy students how an infinite universe can stretch (and compress) and still stay infinite.
Popcorn doesn't exist.
Grabs God.
I don't exist. Hates god
Your profile pic fits so well.
This is so irrelevant but both the comment and replies has some sort of anime character as a profile picture XD
@@chloroplast8611 you ruined our anime thing
@@grapejuiceexplosion5260 Shame... 🔔 Shame... 🔔 Shame... 🔔
My brain hurts after watching this. The concept of time being finite AND infinite is rather scary...
DarkVioletCloud Maybe that ultra compression period defied regular physics and warped space-time so much it couldn't be stable and uncompressed while simultaneously creating time and the physics we know today...
DarkVioletCloud Dont worry.Infinite doesnt exist.Humans created it in their minds because they are fucking idiots.
OPTIKLOPS VII Infinity seems like a pretty smart concept to me.
+DarkVioletCloud It shouldnt
OPTIKLOPS VII Why do you say that?
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Shut up god made the world
@@chloroplast8611 MY LEAVES ARE RED
@@chloroplast8611 ok boomer
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I Like how a 5 minute video has brought us all together to discuss our universe and it's origin.
04:30 then you’d have to answer, “What was the beginning of the previous universe?”
Paradoxical
Another one
infinite universes
@@NEPtune-fy1ug Where did those infinite universes Originate from?
User 122 3 I don’t think it has to have an origin. I mean, sure, I would like for there to be a beginning because it makes more intuitive sense, but I don’t think it’s necessary. I’m not a physicist, but I wouldn’t be surprised if we discovered that the “beginning” was just the collision and subsequent rebound/reaction of all matter at once, due to gravity. A cycle which would restart once the momentum from the “rebound” decays due to entropy, and gravity brings everything back together again. I’m sure I’m missing some important details, but that’s what makes the most sense to me.
I really like the analogy with the North pole when talking about "before" the universe. That makes the idea of time starting at the "Everywhere stretch" much more sensible in my mind, easier to wrap my head around
How about instead of the "Everywhere Stretch" we call it the "Omni Expansion"?
That sounds so much better :)
Oh yes
sounds stupid.
Alex Kennedy Omni Expansion is definitely better.
Sounds so cool
One of the best videos I've ever seen. It explained in 5 min what I was cracking my head for months.
Be afraid of fundamentalist, in religion, politics, and even science. The universe is a complex place, if anyone thinks they have it all figured out, then they are lying, mostly to themselves.
At least professor Lemate are telling people that believing in God doesn't mean "believing Earth was flat like a giant pizza and only 6000 years old" because so many religious people also become a scientist, and the infamous one is Issac Newton.
It's "Lemaître" by the way. Just FYI :)
and darwin
***** But Darwin was anti-christian. Just ask all the various xtian cults and sects. The majority will answer that his teachings go against the xtian version of reality.
Funny how apologists grab on to one man's beliefs, beliefs he professed in a time when professing any other beliefs would reduce or eliminate his opportunities to publish, and quite literally risk him being exiled by religious freaks. Why do apologists always forget the two hundred years of screams from "mainstream" Christians that Darwin was wrong, Darwin was a fool, Darwin was a tool of the Satan character?
On man's probably coerced religious affiliation does not magically un-do hundreds of years of abuse and vilification by that same religion.
Actually both Darwin and Newton are famous for voluntarily leaving substantial room for god in their works, as it was part of faith.
Contrary to (what I think) you believe, science and religion are not opposites, just two different languages.
an overwhelming majority of scientist these days are atheist or agnostic. However in newtons days it was a lot more common for scientists to be religious so you are right about that
Everywhere stretch sound like a porn movie title
+MrRamazanLale2 big bang duhhh
+Jaivardhan Deshwal lol, exactly
Big bang bros
and so does "big bang"
Omg, this made me think of the Universe from Excel Saga xD
Much like this comment, you will find most comments talking about how other comments will be salty or triggered, instead of witnessing much of it for yourself.
I am a devout Catholic and I love Science! Mabuhay! 🌴
@john Peace be with you!
Sven Correction, as a Muslim, studying science and being atheist are two contradictory things
God doesn't exist
Max Wazowski That’s your opinion, do not say it like a fact. Science has got nothing to do with atheism
@@lightscameras4166 WTF the reason I didn't believe in God is not because of science it is because of my depression in my life of how long I've been through of sadness, sorrows, lonely getting bullied Everytime in school and also I've been praying like thousand of times still prayers doesn't work for me
WARNING: This comment section is saltier than the Dead Sea
good one
LOL this is youtube.
+G argler these kinds of salt never die.
Found the Jew.
DID YOU JUST ASSUME HIS RELIGION? Jordan also has a coastline on the Dead Sea.
*looks at title* "Oh this is gonna be good" *looks at comments* *grabs popcorn*
Jemma Kennedy LOL
I eat chips while reading the comments
I’m getting so many warnings of how salty the comment section is. Still gonna keep scrolling though.
Thank you! It always drives me nuts when people (including many of the most brilliant scientists) describe the universe as expanding out of a small point which, if the universe is indeed infinite in size, is impossible. It actually makes a lot more sense that the universe was always infinite in size; the big bang was simply when it expanded ( since infinity can still expand, like the famous example of the infinite hotel), ie we emerged because the universe stopped being infinite in density. Put another way, loss is what creates matter.
what about entropy though, having a one shot universe makes more sense entropically
"Before time began... There was a cube."
Len Frantora trainsformers :))
Len Frantora here comes frantora theory
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Before time existed, there was an egg.
"We know not where it comes from..."
Gotta love reading these arguments. Don't know why but they're always interesting to read and or listen to.
Some are pretty entertaining.
+Jarun Dekart
It's probably in our DNA to be curious about the supernatural. Or maybe it's the other way around. It's in our DNA to think about the supernatural, therefore we are curious about it.
Somehow it doesn't matter where you are on the internet. The god topic comes up.
+777Skeptic Or maybe God made us this way. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
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i c wut u did thar
Agreed.
Georges Lemaitre actually noted his idea of an expanding universe originating from a denser past in 1927, before Edwin Hubble's actual observations of a galaxies drifting apart in 1929. Just a minor clarification.
That zooming in and out of all the boxes makes me uneasy😬
Lol
but wouldn't the cyclical universe theory violate entropy?
U debunked the whole video mate XD
@@habouzhaboux9488 lol
Yup, but not the expanding theory. The chanel has a series of 5 episodes covering that topic.
Expansion of space has nothing to do with entropy. Expansion of space isn't caused by a kinetic moving of matter and entropy only has to do with kinetic moving of particles.therefore there is no contradiction
@@SuperMenders well, if the space shrinks then the particles move closer and closer to each other.
Science, Religion and the Big Bang? I guess I'll skip this one.. it feels pretty dangerous here.
KiraAsakura14 ..
no body gonna eat you here.
KiraAsakura14 Hi Nagisa
Watashi wa Anata ashti des
What is this cancerous broken Japanese transliteration? And why are English speakers so obsessed with trying to use "anata" in normal sentences?
First, there is no "ti" sound. "N" is the only character that can end a syllable. "Des" should be "desu", no freaking clue what "ashti" was supposed to say. Please, never do that with Japanese again.
AnixiasPlays chill
2:40 the “infinite expansion” works better then “everywhere stretch”
3:51 - "Once time began, whenever that was". LOL :)
The stretching slowed? Isn't the universe "stretching" faster and faster?
+Szabo Tamas AFAIK it's the difference between faster and faster over time vs over space. It's stretching faster and faster the farther you go out. The farther something is from us, the faster away it is moving. This would be true even if the stretch is constant in time. The farther things are the faster they move relatively regardless of how fast the stretch is happening (so long as it is pretty much constant in space). But during the "expansion" period, the universe stretched as a whole very quickly (doubling in size in a short period of time). I'm not sure if we know the rate of stretching right now. But the rate of stretching change was faster "in the beginning". Again, AFAIK
+Kurt Kreuger actually I think the universe is stretching faster in both time and space at the present time. The thing is, in the beginning, it was much much faster (inflation) and then it slowed down, and then it started to slowly speed up.
+Aeroscience Right, I think that's correct. Thanks.
The stretching was very rapid initially, as in milliseconds the universe would more than double in size. Now the stretching has slowed in that proportionally the overall size of the universe changes more slowly. However in terms of absolute distance stretched, ("analogous" to volume of the universe) this continues to increase.
as it becomes larger it looks as if its going slower
*_Video has a Vsauce feel to it_*
@Tony Droid Or does it?
@@afakeaccountofcourse.8463 *Vsauce music starts playing*
@@zhandr304 and as always, thanks for watching
Good video, in reference to the last part have you read some arguments with the problem of an actually infinite amount of past events?
Really liked ur work.
Just amazing~~
woahhhh you just blew my mind. so there COULD have been infinite universes before this, with it's own planets and life for who knows how many trillions of years, constantly expanding and collapsing. exact versions of us could have existed in those infinite universes. exact versions of us could exist again. we're just part of the ride. so many worlds from which life came from, evolved, and then died forever. Wow. I know it's just a possibility, but what a mindfuck :D
If you ignore the second law of thermodynamics.
I think that's the Consolation of Haldane, right?
Rodney Burton No it still works with the 2nd law. In an infinite universe very unlikely things happen all the time.
***** So it works with the 2nd law if you assume that the 2nd law is wrong?
yeah i cant get my head around the concept, that something that already exists never had a beginning. isnt that a Paradox?
Wow. I never understood the concept of a singularity, but this cleared it up so much! Great video!
After watching this video.
My brain: Ight, Imma head out.
“In the beginning there was the heavens band the earth” if “earth” implies our universe (the language genesis was written in didn’t have “universe” in it and so earth was commonly used to describe our realm like how Vikings used midguard to describe our realm”and “was” implies that it has always been that way than the Bible lines up with science very neatly
Actually genesis 1:1 says
"In the beginning God created The heavens and the earth" the word "heavens" is in the masculine plural in the Hebrew and can mean Sky, heaven, atmosphere, abode of the stars or the Universe, so "the Heavens" means the entirety of the Universe.
@@reginaldking9906 Hold up so when they say going to "heaven" they mean the universe? Space?
@@bl4ckrabb1t TvT
@@bl4ckrabb1t no just like you have a word bat for an animal and the word bat as an object, you have heavens as an epic place and heavens as the universe.
ŤhəBl4ckRabbıt there are multiple heavens according to scripture. The first heaven is the atmosphere. The second heaven is outer space. And the third heaven is very rarely mentioned but usually interpreted as a place people go to after the end of the world.
Have you ever considered our universe being shitted out of another universe?
Its amazing you haven't been nominated for a nobel prize.
Ikr
Joeby That's it! I'm nominating you right now!
Nice! I FINALLY understand why there may be no 'center' or outer edge of the big bang. Thank you!
I realy like how he put real effort and finesse in pronouncing "Lemaitre" first time and lowered the effort every time ending with "George le Mage" at 4:16. pure joy.
Very interesting theory and video, I hope we could simply explain it in our very own way..
After watching this.,.,.,.,
I don't even know ,what i don't konw
3:58 As someone already pointed out, the expansion of Universe is not slowing down, it's accelerating. Strange you made such mistake, considering the discovery of it was awarded with Nobel prize.
He is talking about the time before. After the big bang, or however you wanna call it, inflation stopped and the universe started to expand at a much lower ratio.
As a Christian, this video is so clear and beautiful. Thank you
@Powerful powerthe r/atheist dude
@The power Atheism is pure nonsense and delusion.Believe in everything come from nothing.
@Sachin Rawat You believe a ancient cell in macroevolution led all living things to exist, that cell must be highly intelligible, contains enough data to produce life and omnipotent ! do you see the point ? We christians know that as ancient cell is not a cell but a God ! a cell cant create anything without intelligent data.
@Sachin Rawat if you ask me proof for God I will tell you to look the creation or I will ask you to pray to Jesus just once with sincere heart and you will find !! But what if I ask you for the proof of non-existence of God ? no scientist like issac newton or Nikola Tesla are athiest ! They believe in higher power(God). Even bible says this : psalms 14:1 The fool said in his heart there is no God. So what are you according to bible ?
@Alone lover ugh cringe evangelical atheist
This is by far one of my favorite videos you’ve ever done. Out of curiosity, does the ending of this video need an update? I know that for a time, scientists were thinking that the universe might be collapsing down again, but I believe that has been disproven. So is it still thought that the universe might still be eternal based off of science?
I think the video left how to many things to count. It explained even less. Nothing against the author since these are minute videos. He didn't really explain what he meant by the math "breaking down." What it means is that the math leads to infinities. Time, space, matter, energy is compressed to the infinite. This means either one of two things. 1. We are missing something in our math. We are of course. Quantum gravity hasn't been reconciled with relativity. That doesn't mean that a reconciliation would result in a solution.
2. The infinities that the equations lead to is the mathematical equivalent to nothing. That what we are witnessing is the literal creation event of a universe.
My understanding of the "big bounce" that he spoke of and the "big crunch" is that they are no longer viable but that is always able to change as we learn more.
@@blusheep2 Thanks for your response. I agree that the video did leave a lot of questions unanswered, but I only really expect a bare bones explanation about Big Bang Cosmology from these videos. I recently started dipping my toes back into the waters of all of this fascinating stuff and found that you are right. The “Big Crunch” and the “Big Bounce” have been mostly tossed aside since there is no evidence of the universe shrinking back down. I saw a fascinating discussion on the Unbelievable? Channel between Sir Roger Penrose and William Lane Craig that you might find interesting. It’s a few years old, but Sir Penrose offered an interesting theory that still results in a universe that has always been around. All answers though, do leave more questions. lol I mean that for all sides of any discussion on this topic. That seems to be the on going thing when you delve into physics, cosmology, and origins in general. Here is the link if you want to view the discussion I was talking about: ua-cam.com/video/9wLtCqm72-Y/v-deo.html
@@leftykiller8344 I think the real issue in the discussion is the way by which we define "eternity." "Infinties" are matematical symbols and I don't see any reason to believe they are real. They are real in the abstract and they are real as potentials but I don't think there is good reason to believe infinities exist in reality. Nonetheless, everyone talks about timeless existence which is what I think "eternal" means but at best, that tells us an eternal object exists without a way to measure time.
There is a discussion about A theory and B theory of time. I think we experience time according to A theory but if there was a creator that was eternal then it could be possible that this creator experienced a time that was not governed by space and therefore a B theory of time. Maybe that would explain eternality.
@@blusheep2 That is definitely what most people would agree to be a concept of a supernatural being, and would also be a definition of eternity.
when something become to be eternal (with no beginning) and I think about it, I get headache :S
i recomment dont try to think too much into it
Try religion. "God did it" it so much simpler.
Jeff M
i'd prefer logic over simplicity
Yami No Yuusha Well im afread logic havnt found it out yet, not stating i dont believe that science will find an answer to what happend "in the beginning"
I usually just don't think that a past and future never existed and the only thing that exists is the now.
Thank you for this awesome video! It explains lots and lots of really difficult ideas in a simple way. Now I can continue imagining things about the universe but in a richer way.
Woah great video! Good job guys!
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just cant wait for the TVseries "the everywhere strech, where nobody knew what the hell was going on"
Believing in God and Science since my birth.
-Normal People
Not since my birth though but I see your rhetoric :)
You will eventually find yourself in a big dilemma.
***** This is the case everyday.
I solved long time.Always doubt because God gived us free will and we can doubt his existence but I found truth.I will not force you because you need to find your own truth but i will help you.
In case "normal" means ignorant, lead by wishful thinking - then yeah, it fits your description.
A lot of people (mainly theists) I've spoke with have mentioned the BGV Theorem, and how it ruled out the possibility of an eternal universe. What are your thoughts on it?
Amazing! Clear and simple!
I was always thinking about an inversion of a previous universe, not a "bounce". It's like shrinking a sphere of "anti-universe" into infinity, and then it starts growing again, but the outher points never changed direction. The collapse of an anti-universe is the expasion of a universe.
wow, what a really respectful way to explain this, I'm a Christian and found this interesting and am really glad you made this video. To be honest, I was scared to click on it because I was expecting a slam fest, but it wasn't. Thank you, good sir. I wish I could subscribe again. :-)
And this is exactly the reason why the comment section is not as salty as the comments in the comments section claiming that it would be salty are claiming it to be.
This was not a religion bashing video and was respectful of the possibility of God or at the very least understanding the rational conclusion that some people have made to say that something unexplainable could be explained by the existence of a deity.
@@erobed21 We don't believe in deity, it's a bullshit
the concept of god is so medieval it is worth bashing. but that's not the right way to teach people science. promote rational thinking and delusions will go away by their own
@@MorbiusBlueBalls Reading this comment really makes me think that your username is your actual description 😂
@@ham2thedan delusional:
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Funny enough, i only found our comment after doing this.
The big bang is the expansion of existing matter, not the creation of new matter from nothing. The changing universe
To be honest, I just came for the impending religious war in the comments.
This video helped me confirm my desire to be a physicist. A thousand thank you's. College here I come.
Hey what are you doin now
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1:55 is very satisfying to watch
But then where did the super tiny compressed bit of space that somehow expanded infinitely come from??
God made
The world
Science doesint explain anything
That's what science can't explain😂
@@chloroplast8611 nice name you got. Sounds like some science term.lol
@@igormorozov666 god made everything. Including science
the infinate square thng really tripped me out
I think you broke my head. ima neeed to watch that again
This is mindblowing shit to think about when you're high. Sucks that we will never have the answers.
Maybe not with that attitude..
we will in the future
@@yeetri1034 or in the past. See that? I just blew your mind!
3 years late n stuff, but I'd still like to that you all for this production. Just watched it and I'm impressed.
Fucking hate spell check.
the primeval atom sounds awesome so much better then the big bang
for real
I knew this would spawn a bunch of arguments.
I mean why would we be mature when we could just argue relentlessly and act like children, right?
LeMaitre based his idea of the Primordial Atom on Einstein's theory of relativity, not on Catholic doctrine or any other religious idea. He also published his paper more than a year before Hubble published his findings about the red shifts of galaxies.
In Hinduism there is a concept of "Kal chakra" which means "circle of time", the circle is divided into 4 yuga (time zones), A Yuga is an age (or aeon) in the wheel of time. Each age has its own intrinsic characteristics.There are four yugas : Sathya Yuga, Trétha Yuga, Dvaapara Yuga and Kali Yuga.The present age is the Kali Yuga - the age of decadence. In the Sathya Yuga, the age of Truth, righteousness was at its peak. As time passes by, there’s a gradual decline in virtue which reaches its nadir in the Kali Yuga. At the end of the Kali Yuga, the Divine Will intervenes and restores the universe to its original state of virtue. This marks the beginning of the next Maha Yuga and the cycle thus continues.
It is like a never ending cycle of life and death.
That's...oddly beautiful in a way.
How can it bounce back if the expansion is accelerating ?
Lol yeah, scientist are triggered
“In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.”
If you watched the video you'd realize that every single part of that statement is false, including "in the beginning.". If corrected for accuracy it would read "In the beginning of the current, known state of the universe there was a singularity that expanded."
IngetKant did you watch that video? He said that it maybe possible and that not it is.
As hilarious as that quote is, I feel I should point out that the Big Bang is meant to explain the creation of the observable universe, not whatever came before it.
Also, apparently none of us have watched the video.
A man of culture I see. Mr. Pratchett was the best.
Only problem with the loop is that there would still have to be a begining so that kinda logic is really only trying to rid of the question of what about before the start.
Is the universe really expanding? Can there not be another reason for the red shift? Such as the light being filtered thru plasma fields?
I'm just tired of these comments, always the same thing, ignorance begets ignorance... religion vs science, why?? Both can coexist and still a lot of these comments just want to get rid of religion altogether or vice-versa, scientific fanaticism is not different from religious fanaticism, both are equally stupid and ignorant, closed minded to the other side's arguments.
A world without religion, or any belief?? Much good that will do, a world without any kind of morals, virtues or laws, where everyone can do anything they want with no regards for the fellow man.
A world without science, back to the stone age! Great! Where people die without treatment, rely on witchcraft and shamans or whatever to offer prayers to the gods... among other countless things!
Sincerely I find it hard to care anymore, for me the Human race could just go all to hell, if it wasn't for some decent people I know in real life! If one wants to loose faith in Humanity just come for 5 minutes to the youtube comments section.
There should be a formal test before enrolling on these sites, a basic test of common knowledge, common sense and a psychological test to see if the person isn't just a frigging troll out to annoy other people for their own amusement or some kind of psychopath!
Ahh I'm tired... someone just kill me now, it would be a lot more painless than seeing this kind of behavior...
Uh, wrong on all counts. They cannot coexist, history has proven that. Religion is superstition claiming to explain the natural world. Science is the most reliable source of actual explanations of the natural world. There is inherent conflict.
You know all those people around the world who do charity work to help the poor and care for the sick and feed the hungry? The people who put in long hours, months, years of their lives helping others out?
Yeah, well here's a fuck you on their behalf sport. Fuck you for claiming that if the gods or magical beliefs hadn't made them do it, they wouldn't have. That's an arrogant insult to the entire human race. At least 75,000 years ago, people were living together peacefully and morally, making art and music and being kind to their kids, generous with their neighbors and caring for the elders. They clearly did it without any of the gods that we know about today, which means that even if the gods were responsible (which they're clearly not) then all of today's gods are the wrong gods when it comes to which of them cast magic spells to make people behave morally.
*Humans rock* and shitbag religious apologists who throw the whole of our highly evolved humanist morals under the nearest bus at the drop of a magic hat should be called out for the arrogant, insulting assholes that they are.
Fuck you for claiming that I'd be a rapist or that I wouldn't give to charities or that I wouldn't share my fucking sandwich with someone who was hungry unless the gods had cast a magic spell on me.
You want to know why religion and science can't coexist? It's because you religious types haven't even begun to think about identifying that ring-ring as the clue phone, let alone tried to pick it up. You lecture on the gods being needed as the source of morals while reality shows the gods are clearly immoral, and it doesn't even fucking register on you. Religion *is* responsible for almost all the immoral laws and immoral practices throughout human history. and where it wasn't directly responsible it was usually complicit with the powers in charge.
Religion has had its way twisting and denying the truth, retarding the progress of the human species, and denying or insulting the innate greatness of the human species for long fucking enough.
You want to sing Kumbaya and eat some magic crackers and wash them down with holy water? Go comment on religious videos and tell everyone that the gods are great and the gods are the only things that keep us from raping and killing schoolchildren while eating dead babies. You'll find a receptive audience. Until you try to settle the "do the gods hate foreskin or not?" question once and for all. Then you'll have a bunch of religious fuckheads instantly ready to kill each other over bits of someone else's penis.
When you've got that all sorted out with them and shown us how great and get along religion makes people, then we'll draw cartoons of all the gods your happy religious families share, and you can pass them around... and watch how jovial and moral they are as they slit throats over a fucking cartoon and shoot doctors in the back because they don't share their religions.
Here's an example from my channel why claims of religious superiority should be discarded. Don't tell me that this is "just a bad egg", religion is used as the basis for threats, intimidation and violence every fucking day of the year. This is why religion and science can't coexist, because scientists don't threaten to kill other scientists simply because they don't agree on a theory.
Jeff Blob
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you will be hunted down and killed.
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Folks - that is is typical of the responses Christians make when they are called on blatant lies. He's hysterical to the point of public histrionics because he cannot respond to the simple fact that religion is inherently immoral and has itself demonstrated this fact continuously for thousands of years.
I've approved his comment to be shown on my channel because I have a question: Why is the boy just talking? Why is he just running his mouth? Why doesn't he just bring it?
Let me guess... the gods are telepathically communicating to him, staying his "fists of death", and he doesn't want to get blood on his magic underwear (approved of by gods from around the world except the ones that don't allow the eating of pork or the keeping of foreskins)
The more religious people are, the more immoral they are. He's just another of thousands examples we see every day, and his type are why I choose to speak out against religion.
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Wow man... relax! Is it really necessary to insult me in almost every line? I just made a point that hate from both sides is wrong, and I presented the generalizations I see the most in youtube. Do I agree with them entirely? NO, but those are the tops excuses from both sides. Maybe I wrote it down a bit wrong, English is not my main language, so give me some leeway.
You took my comment as an attack on science and it's role in the progress of the Human race, when that's not what I was pointing out at all...
For your information I'm a scientist working in the field of nuclear astrophysics, the pursuit of knowledge is my quest in life. Science is essential in improving and advancing the human race.
Also did I said anything about excusing religion for all the wrongdoings they did in the past?? That shit was wrong, even if you take in account the times they were done, but what can it be done about it now? It's in the past, and the past can't be undone unfortunately, what we have to focus is preventing those things from ever happening again.
Also I didn't say atheist are bad, and that their actions are governed by some magic entity. Sincerely I just don't care about that, if people are helping others, why the hell should I care if they believe it's God's work, or just out of the good in their heart, or just because? Does it really matter the why? If people get help and comfort and their life improve as a result, I don't care about the religion or lack of it from the people doing the help.
Besides, how can you say all religious people are immoral? I'm an evil and immoral person because I believe people should be helped and respected due to my scientific and religious education? Thanks man...
Religion indeed has been a force of oppression and even genocide for the most part of History, it's an easy tool for rulers and governments to take advantage, manipulate and abuse. But the idea behind it, that people are good, or should do good things it's not wrong. Did it become a force against science for the most of time, YES! Does it have to be forever? NO! Also does science has the right do to everything it wants? NO, there are somethings even you should find immoral or whatever. Should that keep us from compromising and finding solutions together to advance the huma race? Hell NO! All I wanted is understanding from both sides in trying to end this hate between one another.
This is getting long, but I just want to make things a bit more clear. I don't believe that people are inherently bad, but the youtube comment section is a bottomless pit of hate and ignorance., and that makes me angry and disbelieve in humans. Fortunately in real life I have examples of good people around me from all kinds of beliefs, countries and also atheists and agnostics. So when I said to hell with mankind, did I intended to say, kill all humans? NO! But I was angry at all these comments, so I over reacted. I'm sorry for that, but youtube gets on your nerves...
All I was trying to say is that hate from both sides is unjustified, and we should work together. If you find that impossible, well I can't change your mind, I do believe there's room for both. The power of Humanity as a whole as a force for good makes me believe in something.
I just hope you can see that not all religious people are intolerant and fanatic. I certainly I'm not, at least that's what I strive for, being tolerant and understanding of others.
P.S.: Regarding your other post, you are right, no one has the right to threaten another person just because they have different opinions about something . But this is the internet, people think they can threaten and insult at will, I sincerely don't believe that. But who am I to criticize, even I sometimes loose my temper, and do stupid stuff, not an excuse for that behavior, but it happens unfortunately :S If he continues with that, just report or ignore him, it's the best way to deal with trolls and haters.
religion and science can coexist
Christianity and science cant
ExperienceCounts2 Religion doesn't attempt to explain the natural world. Science is human knowledge about the way the universe works - it is the result of observation. Why should it conflict with religion? If so, how come there are devout people of all religions who are dedicated and brilliant scientists?
As a Muslim, I'm...Actually, I'm really, _really_ scared to scroll down. Holding back the urge.... So tempting...
Don't do it dude.
umCallum I have to...helppp...
you're a muslim? so you believe the most powerful being in the universe who created everything chose a pedophile (Mohammad) to be his 1 and only messenger
Inferval ...He's not a pedophile? Where did you hear that? He did not marry or have sex with a 6 year old or a 9 year old or whatever.
Read the Quran you bloody peanut.
TheRedKunai *sigh*
I don't think I'm in the mood for this right now.
Still have a doubt,when does that stretching starts.
I always liked the concept that mankind through time travel created the big bang making all of existence one big paradox.
Upsilon dies backwards
@@eve_avery Do not watch ^this^ unless you want to break your brain.
Closed timeline is worse thing that complete Annihilation,Cause of the stagnant growth
The plot of ben ten
@@justsomerandomguy4127what happens in ben ten? also goated pfp🤌
the -big- -bang-
the everywhere stretch
The everywhere stretch postulate:
Leopold: Shane, are you reading graphic novels again? [Audience Laughs]
Shane: I'm reading green hornet. [Audience roars with laughter]
Question: isnt the universe expanding at a faster rate than it used to?
Yes but scientists didn't know this in 2013
Tom ahh ok that makes sense. I didnt realize when the video was posted lol.
When you said the universe might be infinite it reminded me that I read once, in Lawrence Krauss's "book a universe from nothing" that he says the only universe that could exist is a closed universe (which is finite in size) that looks flat because of inflation, he said it along those words I don't remember exactly how he said it, and I also read Alexander Vilenkin said something similar with the closed universe, so my question is are those physics accurate or is it an accurate way to describe the universe
The comments are surprisingly wholesome, good job guys!
Science itself sometimes sets boundries, like in this case, why dont they just admit the " bit they dont know" is the Creator, or God. Simples
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Because it's more honest to simply admit that we don't know something,
That's not how the scientific method works and is detrimental to the progression of knowledge. It's an argument from ignorance. 'Admitting' something you don't know is a very clever way of saying you just made shit up (i.e. lied). If you stop looking for the answer by deluding/lying to yourself, you will never find it.
Here's just the FIRST problem you run into. Which God? Christian? Muslim? Greek? Egyptian? One of the thousands if not millions of Native American or African Tribal gods? What about C'thulu? Or a pink unicorn? Or gnomes that like making shoes? Or a magical leopluradon? Every single one of those would be as valid as giving up and saying "God did it." And that's not even getting to the issue of defining what "God" is. Is it just a *thing* that had a hand in creating the universe we observe before us? Is it something that exerts force in this universe? Is it a number of somethings? Is it a fundamental force yet to be discovered or understood? Everyone seems to assume God is a human-like thing, but why make that assumption? We can't even say with certainty that we're the only intelligent beings in the galaxy, what makes us so special that an unknown force looks exactly like us?
The other problem is what tseng61 said, that's about as unscientific as you can get. You can't "admit" that God did it when you don't have any evidence that even points to a God.
Asking where that darned "Singularity" that contained SO MUCH energy that it created our Universe in the Big Bang came from is a lot like asking where God came from. Scientists and Religious Folks are asking the same question, it's just that Religious Folks anthropomorphize the Singularity and call it "God".
CollegeLion At the same point you also can't scientifically say that God, or a pink unicorn, or any other things you mentioned doesn't exist because there is no scientific proof. I am religious and a scientist (I know, a rare breed). And the honest answer to all of these questions is that science and religion aren't related in any way. you can't have an argument about them because science can't prove or disprove that there is a creator. Everything that I learned in my studies (with typically very biased anti creationist professors) and my post grad work can be answered by "God facilitated that". I can't prove it so I can't force it down your throat. However on that same note, you can't disprove it so you can't force the idea that God doesn't exist down mine.
To answer one of your questions, "Everyone seems to assume God is a human-like thing, but why make that assumption?". This is simple, the dominant religions in the regions you live are Catholicism, Christianity, and Islam (I'm assuming since you speak English its either Europe or North America). Those three religions all have roots with the same "God" which in all of those God created humans in his image. As stated in each religions "holy book"
as for the second point I want to talk about. you state "And that's not even getting to the issue of defining what "God" is." yet another very simple answer, you answer it in you're statement. the answer is "God is". Now I assume that sounds stupid and cliche but the explanation for this is very difficult to say the least. The best way to help understand God that I've heard goes something like this. (bear in mind this is just an explanation to describe how we can't comprehend him.) It goes like this: imagine that you lived in a land that was only 2d i.e. within a piece of paper. Now in 2d land a circle is a circle and a rectangle is a rectangle and one can't be the other and vice versa. Now, back to reality, or 3d. Imagine a pencil or marker. In 3d is it a rectangle or a circle? the answer is "yes" (look at it from the side it is a rectangle, from one end it's a circle). now try to explain that to a person who has only lived in 2d land for their entire life. That same conceptual understanding of things is hard to comprehend from our dimension to the spiritual one. also imagine if God had a 2d or even 3d conception of time (compared to our 1d conception of time). He could look at past present and future all at once. and try explaining a 3d concept of time to someone like us who only lives in 1d. so to make a long answer summed up, What is God? Is He just a thing that had a hand in creating the universe we observe before us? Is He something that exerts force in this universe? Is He a number of somethings? Is He a fundamental force yet to be discovered or understood? The answer is simply yes, God is. One quick example to wrap it up. People argued and argued in the past that evolution disproved a creator. But what if the method God used to create us was evolution (no evidence just simply stating a possibility).
sorry super long winded but hopefully this answered all your questions and remember you DON'T have to agree with any of the religious stuff, or explanations of religious stuff. This was not to start an argument, just to simply help you by answering the questions you asked in your comment.
All these non scientists in the comments section who barely know anything about science or mathematics and just want to disprove religion.....
Still an entertaining comments section 👍
Good to note that the name Big Bang is misleadingly different from what logically happened.
What happened was that space identified itself as containing things which interact with each other. An immediate second identification was that this interaction had a regularity in terms of cause & effect, which in turn showed a remarkable uniformity which we call time lapse (duration) for the effect to happen due to the cause.
Interestingly, our present understanding puts a limit to this time related happenings, by fixing the speed at which light travels.
God made the universe
@@chloroplast8611 We don't know yet, we don't have proof of a god (yet). For now, we have to stick with the big bang theory until it's proven that a god exists.
@@rbxlimitedtrader42 The big bang requires a cause though, nothing isn't even a a THING, how can nothing bring about anything into existence it doesn't make any sense.
There's also plenty of evidence for God's existence...
Non-religious but I appreciate the measured response about religion that wasn't just bashing. All religions, not just Christianity, have their own creation story. As we learn more about the universe through science, a true believer in any religion will welcome this information with open arms.
I don't get why people tend to see science and religion on opposite sides. What if god really is just the sum of all rules - the logic behind everything. The bible does not really define what or who god is.
The bible (and so do other religious books) states a lot of what people interpreted and thought at the time it was written. They didn't have the math and knowledge so they came up with ways to explain rain, the stars etc. with their interpretation of a "human-like" godly beeing. What they were really trying to capture was the essence of it all, but they wrote it down in their own, 2000+years old words.
If we read it today, we should take care to "translate" this into our modern world. When we refer to rain today, we don't refer to a "man in the sky" who moves the clouds with his hands. We have seem and proven that rain can be explained with math and science. But that doesn't mean it's not related to god. We should instead update our understanding of god.
I would start with the most obvious question: "Which "god"?" but I digress, the question itself has become tedious and somewhat annoying...
I think your rain analogy has clearly described the God Of The Gaps argument. But again, I digress for the sake of tediousness.
Updating our understanding of a "god" is a problem when there's no universal consensus of what a "god" is or even should be, as you have pointed out. Even different sects of the same religion can't seem to consolidate their own beliefs, so how can anyone expect to build upon "our understanding of god" when the foundation is so precarious?
how can he be the rules and logic, when everything about it is absolutely illogical?
You know why it's supernatural? Because it is outside nature. You know what's nature? It's everything that exists. God is outside of everything that exists. Therefore it doesn't exist. And it's not just rhetoric. There is a good reason why it's labeled as supernatural: because there is no possible ways to solve any of the huge pile of logical contradictions related to it.
Donnie You are right, but I disagree that god is supernatural. He might be supernatural to our everyday-life experiences, just as the maxwell eqn. or the speed of light is supernatural to our experience. Still we know its there. Don't take this example too serious, because comparing god to scientific equations is a rather bad comparison, but I think you get the idea.
My thought is more like this: You can imagine a completely different set of rules to describe a universe, equations that are consistent and logical in themselfes. They would (if they were real) define a completely different universe. However, we find the universe to work in a very specific way. Don't you wonder why it is exactly that way and not any of the other possibilities? That's the kind of "logic behind everything" that I mean. It's not outside of nature, its the very core of it and its something undiscoverable - by definition.
TheSlowGrowth
The discussion of a deistic god seems to be the most pointless of all. Even having conceded to it being true and real, so what? It ultimately doesn't change anything.
If anything, it would logically lead us to believe that, to quote Krauss, "we're even less significant than we thought" being that a god of that magnitude has undoubtedly created an infinity of universes, much like you have described in your thought experiment; all with different rules, constants and laws.
In this version of god, we have no reason to think ourselves special in any way.
TheSlowGrowth "just as the maxwell eqn. or the speed of light is supernatural to our experience" - no, those things are not supernatural to us. They conform to logic, they don't contradict what we know. The notion of God - does.
Every time I watch on of these videos, I get mindf*cked
I'm confused, tell me if I'm right : the space that we can see was compressed then it stretched out?
.. yes, size/volume of space is relative so is speed and time.
Congratulations i had to do a paper on the big bang and now i have to rethink everything. Now i have to work more :(
Just finish. Then do a Or so they thought... and say "to be continued"
dun dun dun!!!!!!
Featfox Everybody is going to hate you because they will all have to do another report :P
Featfox Or you can copy this video word for word.
Jake Elvy thats exactly what i did
I paused and read the formula @ 0:36 and was like ''I know some of these words''
Liar
I know negative of these words
1:54 this made me breathe rly fast for sum reason
Is it possible that space has been compressing and springing out then compressing again?