@@ProfessorTravisit does feel expensive but knowing how involved the design process is and how long such big pieces would take on a 3D printer it is actually not that much. As a matter of fact the only way something like this works is if the person isn't accounting for their design time and usually that is the case because they created the first one for themselves.
Toyota could charge $500 for it as an option and most people would probably go for it. Dealers ought to jump on it and make a few bucks, but they're dumb!
Years ago when car manufacturers went from full size tire spares to the smaller donut type spares they said it was for lack of room or weight. BS It was for cost savings. When they eliminated the donut and gave us inflators and a can of goo they said it was for weight and lack of room. BS again. It was cost savings. Just about anything car manufacturers do is for the bottom line.
This is why I bought a 2024 Toyota Venza. It comes with a spare tire. EVERY flat I have ever had was a sidewall puncture, so those "goo" cans were worthless.
400$ to add a spare tire. Outrageous that makers are dropping spares on almost all cars. We have so many potholes here in California, and construction nails abound. A loathsome trend.
I hear you. The car I had before this was a 2017 Kia and IRO, also didn’t come with a spare. One time I hit a pothole so big that it flattened the driver side front and rear tire in one maneuver.
It is mostly in EVs that this is happening because there is limited space because of the batteries and cables. Just another reason not to spend money on a POS EV.
That $400 is just for the printed plastic parts. You still have to buy the spare and craft the areas around it. And the website says it takes three months. Just ridiculous.
I’m planning on doing this. But I will go to junk yards to find gas Corolla Cross (2022-24) to get their spare tire and possibly jack plus tire iron/handle. The jack kit will fit in the plastic holder around that empty spare wheel well & even has a rubber stretch band to keep one secured. Once a spare is secured, you’ll have the dimensions to give to order the custom printed parts. I have seen you can buy spares online in a nice case but it gets expensive when you add in the cost of the adapter.
You're psychotic, it's a 2 yr old Toyota that should live for 20 years. Are you going to a JY on the moon? However many other Toy's use the same tire and tools.
Great idea! I’ve booked that so that I can refer to it when I decide to order my own Corolla Cross. I was going to cross off the hybrid just for the fact that it didn’t have the spare tire, but this seems to be a reasonable solution for my needs.
When I use to drive for Uber and Lyft I would get a nail in my tire about once a week. I have a spare and use to use it. But tbh the spare is really just if I get a blow out. I have a tire repair kit and portable air compressor that can get me back on the road in about 30 minutes or less. Portable car jumper is key too. Had to jump someone at the FLEX warehouse today.
I had that pump and fix a flat, tire was too damaged both times. What didn’t make it into the video is the car came with free roadside and I got tire road hazard coverage. But each time I was towed to the dealership, they didn’t have my tire in stock!!!
@@SideGigGuy not the fix a flat in a can. But an actual tire repair kit and rechargeable air compressor. Free roadside is good. Most gig apps will have some roadside assistance. Good to learn how to fix yourself if you can. Any time off the road is time missing out on making money.
Can you specify the exact spare tire model? The actual maker of this kit installed a shim platform that raised the whole floor. Are you counting on the tire itself to hold cargo weight or you got a slimmer model that fit flush?
I’ll put the link for the tire in my reply. And regarding the spacer to make things flush, I didn’t do that, but I might. It doesn’t look perfect in back, and when I put items in the back, the cover wobbles. It isn’t aesthetically pleasing to look at. However, I am satisfied with the bracket that holds the spare. Spare Tire To Fit 2023-2024... www.amazon.com/dp/B0CV1FFR2K?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
@@SideGigGuy Roughly how thick of a shim all around would fix the wobble, assuming the tire is protruding? I wouldn't want cargo weight being carried by just the plastic below, unless the tire sidewall rests partly on metal. I can see situations where heavy cargo could cause unexpected problems, even forcing the tire into the orange cable. Thanks for details.
@ the tire itself doesn’t wobble. Just the mat on top. I would estimate 3 inches would do the trick maybe a little less it would depend on the tire. Definitely something if you wanted to get I’d measure and do it after the spare was installed. And this may not have been clear from the video, but the tire goes in both side up Sort of upside down from how you would expect it. Meaning there is space in the center of the spare for things top side, not underneath. Which is probably better since you don’t want things clamoring around by that cable.
I am considering buying the Lexus UX, which is also a hybrid with runflats and no spare tire. Fortunately, it should be easy to get one since there are no high voltage cables running where the spare tire should be
In May of 2023, I was looking to buy a Corolla Cross Hybrid. I was about to put a deposit on one until I found it did not have a spare tire. I will not own a car without a spare tire. If the kit you demonstrated was available back then, I would have bought the Cross. Instead, I bought a 2024 Subaru Crosstrek. It does not get the MPG a Cross does but it rides a lot better. It was a good decision.
I almost didn’t buy it either. Like a fool, I figured the roadside and tire warranty would be good enough. Forgot how valuable my time was. My wife jokes that I’ve had two blowouts in first six months, now that I have spare, it will never happen again
Did you check on the transmission problems Subaru s are having. A spare tire is the last thing to worry about. When you look in the rear view mirror, do you see a sucker?
Love my Venza with a real spare, no donut. Lots of underfloor storage for clutter. The RAV4 claims way more hatch space, but not really where it counts.
No spare, you have a tire that has major damage, perhaps the wheel is badly damaged. That means having to be towed, perhaps many miles and if don't have AAA or original makers guarantee road service, you could be SOL. You may have a large towing bill, have to wait days for a replacement tire and if away from home that may mean spending $100's hotel, meal and other costs, maybe can't do or get to your job so lose money.
I do carry a full size spare plus a spare donut in my Prius. I've had flat tires 5 times over the years. Always on the weekends. In Montana I remember driving 475 miles to find a tire repair shop open Monday morning. AAA has no data base on tire repair shops.
Government legislates all kind of safety into vehicles but allows the most basic safety, a spare tire, to be dropped . Stupidity every car and light truck should required to have a spare tire.
Take a shot every time he says laser printed. You wont remember it was actually 3d printed by time the video is done. Either way, awesome product and novel solution. :)
I'm going to blame that on my early morning brain 😅. Or that I just know nothing about this technology, and it’s what I get for not scripting my voiceovers.
The real question here isn't if you should have a spare tire (I spent way more than this to put a full size tire on my van where the spare tire space is taken up by a generator, but how do you get 3 flats in so short amount of time? In the last 20 years that I can remember, I've had one.
Good job! I haven't had a flat tire in almost 20 years (knock on wood), but it really sucks to get one and not have a spare. I haven't tried using the tire goo/inflator that my cars have instead of a spare, but it just seems like such a mess. Like the others have said, it seems like the manufacturer's should at least offer a spare tire kit as an option, right? Especially since most vehicles are still designed with a space for a spare tire (ususally due to requirements in other countries).
Our story is very similar. I didn’t have a flat tire for at least 10 years, until I got my 2017 Kia NIRO, which also did not come with a spare tire. And I just started having a string of flat tires that the fixer flat wouldn’t fill. Thought that those days would not repeat with a new vehicle, but two flats and six months, and I had to get the spare.
What a brilliant idea l know there a lot of non hybrid vehicles that don't have even a spare tyre and l live in Australia were any sort of spare tyre is an essential and even more luxurious us a full size spare tyre because a space saver spare tyre is limited to 80 kph but with a full size spare tyre you can drive at the speed limit and l know of atleast one Toyota non hybrid that doesn't have a spare tyre the Toyota Estima very popular in Australia infact Toyota's are very popular in Australia and Taxi drivers use your Toyota Hybrid as a Taxi infact most taxis in Australia are Toyota Hybrids
It’s very unusual. I also didn’t have a flat from 1996-2021. Not once!! In 2021 I bought a Kia Niro, my first car with no spare. Starting then, I was Jinxed! I thought the jinx would leave if I got a different car. Nope!! I am the guy who will always have the issue he isn’t prepared for.
Anyone who goes on long road trips knows the advantage of baving a spare tire. For mostly city driving with tow trucks a plenty, other options are satusfactory.
Not sure exactly what the item that comes standard with the car was, but it was a solution that’s mixed with an air compressor. And yes, both times it was so severe that it wouldn’t inflate the tire. Unfortunately. I tend to be the kind of person, though that proves Murphy’s Law.
Many new cars don't have spares, not even the old donuts. Mine had run flat tires instead. Had my first flat in 25 years and just drove to the tire place.
What really grinds my gears is I had two separate blowouts. One while traveling. Each time towed to dealership as the tires are under warranty. Both times they didn’t have my tire in stock??!! How can you sell a 2024 model car and not stock the tires you warranty????
I agree, the cargo bottom wiggles because the tire is about 3 inches higher and it isn’t flush anymore However, there is a spacer I could buy to put in there, but I think I could make something myself.
That cable could have been placed somewhere else instead of designing in an excuse to screw you out of a spare and a jack and lug wrench. Th DOT should require spare tires.
I put it in the description and in a pin,. They might be able to make it for any model. Certainly worth reaching out they gave me very good customer service.
It is because the brand knows ppl pay 50k for their cars which cost them 15k to make and which should actually be priced between 25-30k for the options and tech they offer.
@@SideGigGuy I work as a service technician (not toyota/lexus), and I'm always amazed at the cost cutting measures from manufacturers. In this case with the spare tire, I'm sure the cost to provide a spare would be (relatively) miniscule that when passed on to the consumer, it would be somewhat negligible. Heck, the "PDI"/"documentation fees" are more expensive than the spare tire itself!
Did you not notice that the main power cable was in the way? Now that he has a spare tire in that space, the chances of damaging the cable and/or connections has increased. Anything that can rub against the cable could cause a failure over time. Not to mention that most people don’t put away their tools correctly after changing a flat and simply throw them back into the tire well. Plus you will have most people trying to cram the full size flat back into the same tire well that the donut was in. Believe me, I worked in a tire shop while going to school and 99% of all flat replacements that came in had the tools, jack, and flat just crammed into tire well. It would only take one person to get harmed/electrocuted and the manufacturer would be sued. It also prevents people from messing around with the cable in the first place.
In the past 31 years of driving I had flat tire only once (jinx!!! lol). So for my kind of driving, spare tire is not needed as long as the puncture kit works. Spare tire needs to be inflated to 55 PSI and also need to change that tire every 10 years. Not worth it.
They were bad enough that the compressor and fix a flat that came with the car would not fill the tire, but I wouldn’t classify them as blowouts. Just very large holes that wouldn’t close.
The last new car I bought was 1973 I’m a quick learner I bought all used cars after that I buy 10 year old used cars and drive them for at least 10 years😂
I’m 56, and I probably have at least 1-2 more new cars left in me. I expect to get 500K miles out of this car, but I drive 25K a year. I hope it makes 20 years, I’d be happy with 15!
I hope the tire or wheel is not resting on that high voltage cable. And I highly doubt that plastic will hold the tire in place if you get into a serious collision. Running the cable through the spare tire well like that is a total hack by Toyota.
The pieces are designed to stop just that, the tire not resting on the cable. However, you are very correct. That 3-D printed materials would probably not hold up in a serious collision. That said, I might not hold up in a serious collision. Furthermore, my rule on hybrids is I get out of the car in any kind of collision and stand out in the ditch. Much safer.
This doesn’t make any sense Are you saying that cargo space you can’t ever put anything back there because the high voltage cable might be rubbed? Well then that’s just a terrible design by Toyota. What if I’m moving and I wanna stack a bunch of stuff back there? Or if im going to the airport and I need to put my luggage back there? Either this rubbing of the cable is not true or it’s a terrible design by toyota.
So you do realize there was a reason that Toyota didn’t put a spare in the space? Even though you can make a bracket that allows a donut spare to be mounted over the connection, doesn’t mean there isn’t a risk. As you said yourself, you have to be careful with that cable and the connector when installing the kit to avoid injury or damaging the vehicle. So the best way to keep people from accidentally damaging the cable and connector is to not have them messing around in that area. If anything rubs against the cable, it could eventually damage it. The biggest problem is when a person changes their flat, they usually just cram the tools, jack, and flat back into the same space as the donut spare was in. I saw it many times when I worked at a tire shop in St Louis. People would jam a full size flat into the smaller space provided for the donut thinking it should fit. And if you push hard enough, they could mange to just wedge them in. Imagine what would happen if someone tried to do that with this kind of setup. What it comes done to is that the manufacturers don’t want you messing around with that cable and connector. Back in the 80s when carburetors were still being used, but controlled electrically, the fuel mixture screws war capped off to keep people from messing with them. Too many people thought they could simply adjust the mixture like they had done on older carburetors, but what they did actually made the cars run worse. So a simple solution was to cap off the screws. That big plastic plug you took out was basically the same thing, a deterrent from people messing around with something they shouldn’t be messing around with. I hope you never have any issues with the cable, connector, or even the battery after installing this kit. If you do, I doubt that the dealer will treat it as a warranty issue.
@@SideGigGuy It's a non problem. The reason people are so reliant on spares is they don't look after their tyres. They are clueless as to how to get longevity from them. I hesitated buying a new car for the wife when I saw the space saver spare. 75,000kms later, no flats, it's kind of a total non issue. I run quality tyres, I run them at or near their maximum rated pressures, I get excellent mileage, often double what I hear some people whining about, and zero flats. A quick look back at previous vehicles reveals 1.5million kms since the last flat. My work vehicle doesn't do a lot of mileage, but I run 8 ply light truck tyres on it and got 100,000kms from the last set. They were 12 years old when changed. I find when the tread depth gets shallow you'll start picking up screws or nails. The last set had a nail in one tyre when I had them changed, but it had never gone flat. The people who complain the loudest about new cars not having spares are typically the kind of people who, if you opened the boot (trunk for you weirdoes) and checked their spare, you'd find it was date expired and bald. Tyres here are legal only 7 years from manufacture (10 for commercial tyres). Because they are made of components that degrade over time. So the kind of person whining that new cars don't have spares, are exactly the kind of person who previously was entirely happy bolting a bald expired tyre to their car, like a time bomb ticking away as they drive. I carry a space saver and a plug kit in the wifes car. If the tyre is beyond plugging, the space saver will get you there. Plugging is faster than changing wheels anyway. EVs are hard on tyres because they weigh much more than ICE vehicles in a similar class. It's one of the environmental fallacies of EVs. They'll generate microplastics at twice the rate of smaller ICE cars. There is no perfect solution out there. Just more imperfect choices.
Agreed!. I scoured the house and was real surprised that we didn’t have any rubber gloves, even for cleaning. Which probably would’ve been sufficient with rubber soul shoes. It would’ve been horrible if that video would’ve ended up being a snuff film.
@@SideGigGuy I’m actually Beulah’s husband a gm auto technician for 42 years. I just want everyone to realize how dangerous ev high voltage is and stay safe. Electric or gasoline cars are extremely dangerous .
Toyota is hit and miss on spare tires. The RAV4 still has one, but not the Lexus NX which is derived from it. I'm waiting to see the specs on the '26 RAV4. If they have dropped the spare, I will get a '25.
As if electric/hybrid vehicles were not expensive enough, now you have to buy a spare separately. I call bs. Pretty soon you’ll buy a car “wheels sold separately “.
Hmmmm…. I didn’t even think about that. If my powertrain or hybrid were to ever malfunction, I think I could remove this modification pretty easily. Hopefully my dealership doesn’t watch UA-cam.
I'm 70 years old, and between me and my family, I have had at least 20 cars or trucks. Since the advent of small portable dc compressors and tire plug kits, i never needed to change a tire on the road in the past 20 years. Save your money 💰 and learn how to plug a tire
You paid all that money to Toyota, so they could delete the spare, make the car lighter and better fuel economy. Your roadside service from mobile phone is now the spare tire. Same idea with smaller gas tanks, make the car lighter and better fuel economy. Your roadside service is also your reserve fuel tank. It's all about hybrid fuel economy bragging that sold you the car.
The high price is one issue, the 2nd issue I see is that 3D printed plastic is layered in the same direction that it would experience loading in an accident, upward. If the 3D printed layers let go or the structure fails now you have a 50lb skull crushing spare tire bouncing around the cabin in addition to everything else bad happening during an accident. I'd love someone to make a metal bracket, sure metal will bend but it's less likely to fail all at once and release the tire. I completely understand they need to recoup their time spent engineering this, but $400 PLUS the tire and tool kit is a steep price. If it was $400 all in then no brainer.
Ok, I’m lost! You say if you put a spare tire in the trunk, “you’ll never have a flat again”! So, a spare tire will keep you from getting a flat tire?!?!?!?!AMAZING! That means you’ll never have to use that spare tire! Unless, someone steals a tire, then you need it, right? Grammatical English Language, gotta love it!
I truly prove Murphy’s Law. And I know just having the spare will prevent flat tires in the same way that not having the spare caused two flat tires less than six months on a brand new car. And I had a previous experience with my last car, no spare and countless flat tires. Well, I could count them. I think it wasabout 10 two years.
@@mrjeff2396 Lol, it was truly uncanny, and I am not exaggerating. I didn’t want to spend the money on a spare tire and a jack, and these 3-D parts were a little pricey as well. But I know that now I won’t have any flat tires I just know it.
@@SideGigGuy Murphy’s law hopefully will stay true to you! My vehicle is a 2019, F150 SPORT. Took me over a month to learn how to access the jack tools. (Inside cab, behind rear bench seat on right side!) A month!!! I’ve never had to use it. knock knock. Bonus: The access port to winch down the spare (under the rear of truck bed) requires key 🔑 to unlock port). This ride has done me well! 2y past: from COS,CO to UT, NV, & CA, N to OR & WA, east to ID, MT, WY, back to CO. This year, East I-70 to DC (daughter retired from Army, I’m retired USAF), and return w/ side to Niagara Falls). I had guns, so no Canada visit. Planning for next year trip to AK via Canada. I’ll be sure to complete paperwork for my guns (I carry LEOSA)! 4yr past was to DC for visit! I bring down the spare tire once a year to check pressure. The 4 roadies have the sensor stem, but not the spare. You caught me by total surprise as I thought spares were simply replaced with donuts these days. Totally unaware of the no spare at all concept! Take care and happy drives!
where did you buy it? i need one for my car too
ansonliu.com/store/ you can find there
It's linked in his description. $400. 😬
@@ProfessorTravis thanks, he added it after i commented. for a custom design and printed part, not mass manufactured, it seems like a fair price
What is the spare rim size and tyre size on the spare that u are using for your Corolla cross?
@@ProfessorTravisit does feel expensive but knowing how involved the design process is and how long such big pieces would take on a 3D printer it is actually not that much. As a matter of fact the only way something like this works is if the person isn't accounting for their design time and usually that is the case because they created the first one for themselves.
If you can do this, Toyota could have done this. Shame on them for at least not offering a spare as an option.
I was surprised also.
Just cheaping out to increase profits
@@Combatpzman and reduce weight for mileage ratings.
Toyota could charge $500 for it as an option and most people would probably go for it. Dealers ought to jump on it and make a few bucks, but they're dumb!
Years ago when car manufacturers went from full size tire spares to the smaller donut type spares they said it was for lack of room or weight. BS It was for cost savings. When they eliminated the donut and gave us inflators and a can of goo they said it was for weight and lack of room. BS again. It was cost savings. Just about anything car manufacturers do is for the bottom line.
This is why I bought a 2024 Toyota Venza. It comes with a spare tire.
EVERY flat I have ever had was a sidewall puncture, so those "goo" cans were worthless.
It's that satisfying feeling and confidence you're good to go anywhere. 😊 I need a spare for my CX30. 🤔 Thank you. ❤
Awesome. And you don’t need to get that bracket, just throw it in back. I did that for a month
400$ to add a spare tire. Outrageous that makers are dropping spares on almost all cars. We have so many potholes here in California, and construction nails abound. A loathsome trend.
I hear you. The car I had before this was a 2017 Kia and IRO, also didn’t come with a spare. One time I hit a pothole so big that it flattened the driver side front and rear tire in one maneuver.
It is mostly in EVs that this is happening because there is limited space because of the batteries and cables. Just another reason not to spend money on a POS EV.
That $400 is just for the printed plastic parts. You still have to buy the spare and craft the areas around it. And the website says it takes three months. Just ridiculous.
I’m planning on doing this. But I will go to junk yards to find gas Corolla Cross (2022-24) to get their spare tire and possibly jack plus tire iron/handle. The jack kit will fit in the plastic holder around that empty spare wheel well & even has a rubber stretch band to keep one secured. Once a spare is secured, you’ll have the dimensions to give to order the custom printed parts.
I have seen you can buy spares online in a nice case but it gets expensive when you add in the cost of the adapter.
Junkyard first would’ve been better. If just for the jack even.
You're psychotic, it's a 2 yr old Toyota that should live for 20 years. Are you going to a JY on the moon? However many other Toy's use the same tire and tools.
Any car that doesn't come with a spare tire should be considered defective.
💯💯💯👍🏻👍🏻
Almost all new cars don’t have a spare tire anymore, even regular gas burning ones
Another reason they're deleting the spare is because most people don't know how to change a tire!
🤣😂 Probably true!!
This is nice!! I've been looking for something like this.
Thanks, glad you liked it
Great idea! I’ve booked that so that I can refer to it when I decide to order my own Corolla Cross. I was going to cross off the hybrid just for the fact that it didn’t have the spare tire, but this seems to be a reasonable solution for my needs.
When I use to drive for Uber and Lyft I would get a nail in my tire about once a week. I have a spare and use to use it. But tbh the spare is really just if I get a blow out. I have a tire repair kit and portable air compressor that can get me back on the road in about 30 minutes or less. Portable car jumper is key too. Had to jump someone at the FLEX warehouse today.
I had that pump and fix a flat, tire was too damaged both times.
What didn’t make it into the video is the car came with free roadside and I got tire road hazard coverage. But each time I was towed to the dealership, they didn’t have my tire in stock!!!
@@SideGigGuy not the fix a flat in a can. But an actual tire repair kit and rechargeable air compressor. Free roadside is good. Most gig apps will have some roadside assistance. Good to learn how to fix yourself if you can. Any time off the road is time missing out on making money.
Can you specify the exact spare tire model? The actual maker of this kit installed a shim platform that raised the whole floor. Are you counting on the tire itself to hold cargo weight or you got a slimmer model that fit flush?
I’ll put the link for the tire in my reply. And regarding the spacer to make things flush, I didn’t do that, but I might. It doesn’t look perfect in back, and when I put items in the back, the cover wobbles. It isn’t aesthetically pleasing to look at.
However, I am satisfied with the bracket that holds the spare.
Spare Tire To Fit 2023-2024... www.amazon.com/dp/B0CV1FFR2K?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
@@SideGigGuy Roughly how thick of a shim all around would fix the wobble, assuming the tire is protruding? I wouldn't want cargo weight being carried by just the plastic below, unless the tire sidewall rests partly on metal. I can see situations where heavy cargo could cause unexpected problems, even forcing the tire into the orange cable. Thanks for details.
@ the tire itself doesn’t wobble. Just the mat on top.
I would estimate 3 inches would do the trick maybe a little less it would depend on the tire. Definitely something if you wanted to get I’d measure and do it after the spare was installed.
And this may not have been clear from the video, but the tire goes in both side up Sort of upside down from how you would expect it. Meaning there is space in the center of the spare for things top side, not underneath. Which is probably better since you don’t want things clamoring around by that cable.
I am considering buying the Lexus UX, which is also a hybrid with runflats and no spare tire. Fortunately, it should be easy to get one since there are no high voltage cables running where the spare tire should be
That’s awesome. I think my next car will be a Lexus. They are a good luxury car in my opinion.
In May of 2023, I was looking to buy a Corolla Cross Hybrid. I was about to put a deposit on one until I found it did not have a spare tire. I will not own a car without a spare tire. If the kit you demonstrated was available back then, I would have bought the Cross. Instead, I bought a 2024 Subaru Crosstrek. It does not get the MPG a Cross does but it rides a lot better. It was a good decision.
I almost didn’t buy it either. Like a fool, I figured the roadside and tire warranty would be good enough. Forgot how valuable my time was.
My wife jokes that I’ve had two blowouts in first six months, now that I have spare, it will never happen again
Did you check on the transmission problems Subaru s are having. A spare tire is the last thing to worry about. When you look in the rear view mirror, do you see a sucker?
@@RayRogers-k2q well, there is already an active recall on my cross. Can be fixed in software, but still…
Love my Venza with a real spare, no donut. Lots of underfloor storage for clutter. The RAV4 claims way more hatch space, but not really where it counts.
No spare, you have a tire that has major damage, perhaps the wheel is badly damaged. That means having to be towed, perhaps many miles and if don't have AAA or original makers guarantee road service, you could be SOL. You may have a large towing bill, have to wait days for a replacement tire and if away from home that may mean spending $100's hotel, meal and other costs, maybe can't do or get to your job so lose money.
I do carry a full size spare plus a spare donut in my Prius. I've had flat tires 5 times over the years. Always on the weekends. In Montana I remember driving 475 miles to find a tire repair shop open Monday morning. AAA has no data base on tire repair shops.
Government legislates all kind of safety into vehicles but allows the most basic safety, a spare tire, to be dropped . Stupidity every car and light truck should required to have a spare tire.
Take a shot every time he says laser printed. You wont remember it was actually 3d printed by time the video is done. Either way, awesome product and novel solution. :)
Laser printed 😂
I'm going to blame that on my early morning brain 😅. Or that I just know nothing about this technology, and it’s what I get for not scripting my voiceovers.
@@SideGigGuy No worries. You got the point across and the community involved. Great for the algorithm ;)
The real question here isn't if you should have a spare tire (I spent way more than this to put a full size tire on my van where the spare tire space is taken up by a generator, but how do you get 3 flats in so short amount of time? In the last 20 years that I can remember, I've had one.
Good job! I haven't had a flat tire in almost 20 years (knock on wood), but it really sucks to get one and not have a spare. I haven't tried using the tire goo/inflator that my cars have instead of a spare, but it just seems like such a mess. Like the others have said, it seems like the manufacturer's should at least offer a spare tire kit as an option, right? Especially since most vehicles are still designed with a space for a spare tire (ususally due to requirements in other countries).
Our story is very similar. I didn’t have a flat tire for at least 10 years, until I got my 2017 Kia NIRO, which also did not come with a spare tire. And I just started having a string of flat tires that the fixer flat wouldn’t fill.
Thought that those days would not repeat with a new vehicle, but two flats and six months, and I had to get the spare.
Nice! Now give me solution for my 2020 Sienna AWD.
What a brilliant idea l know there a lot of non hybrid vehicles that don't have even a spare tyre and l live in Australia were any sort of spare tyre is an essential and even more luxurious us a full size spare tyre because a space saver spare tyre is limited to 80 kph but with a full size spare tyre you can drive at the speed limit and l know of atleast one Toyota non hybrid that doesn't have a spare tyre the Toyota Estima very popular in Australia infact Toyota's are very popular in Australia and Taxi drivers use your Toyota Hybrid as a Taxi infact most taxis in Australia are Toyota Hybrids
I have a spare tyre in my car, I have owned the car for 17 years, I can’t remember the last time I had a puncture. Where have you been driving?
It’s very unusual. I also didn’t have a flat from 1996-2021. Not once!! In 2021 I bought a Kia Niro, my first car with no spare. Starting then, I was Jinxed! I thought the jinx would leave if I got a different car. Nope!! I am the guy who will always have the issue he isn’t prepared for.
Did this void the manufacturer's battery warranty?
I can almost guarantee that it will.
Anyone who goes on long road trips knows the advantage of baving a spare tire. For mostly city driving with tow trucks a plenty, other options are satusfactory.
Were your flat tires so severe something like AirMan ResQ Pro+ or Slime Flat Tire Puncture Repair Kit Pro wouldn't have worked?
Not sure exactly what the item that comes standard with the car was, but it was a solution that’s mixed with an air compressor. And yes, both times it was so severe that it wouldn’t inflate the tire. Unfortunately. I tend to be the kind of person, though that proves Murphy’s Law.
Many new cars don't have spares, not even the old donuts. Mine had run flat tires instead. Had my first flat in 25 years and just drove to the tire place.
What really grinds my gears is I had two separate blowouts. One while traveling. Each time towed to dealership as the tires are under warranty. Both times they didn’t have my tire in stock??!! How can you sell a 2024 model car and not stock the tires you warranty????
@@SideGigGuy They had to send out for mine, but gave me a loaner for overnight.
This wont work if you need to put heary stuff in the trunk. Really need that old organizer to support that bottom
I agree, the cargo bottom wiggles because the tire is about 3 inches higher and it isn’t flush anymore
However, there is a spacer I could buy to put in there, but I think I could make something myself.
@ im planning to cut the original one abit to make it fit in there😂
Shame on Toyota for not having a spare tire. I would refuse to purchase a car without one.
Right!!
Nice. I wonder if there's a possible solution out there for a '24 Santa Fe?
That cable could have been placed somewhere else instead of designing in an excuse to screw you out of a spare and a jack and lug wrench. Th DOT should require spare tires.
Good video.
I appreciate that. Glad it helped!
Do they make this kit for a Crown Signia?
Who is the manufacturer?
I put it in the description and in a pin,. They might be able to make it for any model. Certainly worth reaching out they gave me very good customer service.
Its quite unbelievable that there is space to put a spare tyre in but manufacturers refuse to provide one..
I guess it is a combination weight / cost issue. But yeah, there is plenty of space!!
It is because the brand knows ppl pay 50k for their cars which cost them 15k to make and which should actually be priced between 25-30k for the options and tech they offer.
@@SideGigGuy I work as a service technician (not toyota/lexus), and I'm always amazed at the cost cutting measures from manufacturers. In this case with the spare tire, I'm sure the cost to provide a spare would be (relatively) miniscule that when passed on to the consumer, it would be somewhat negligible. Heck, the "PDI"/"documentation fees" are more expensive than the spare tire itself!
@@reikasdad interesting… I have no expertise at all in the area. But from design purely, the circular space is obviously where a tire should be…
Did you not notice that the main power cable was in the way? Now that he has a spare tire in that space, the chances of damaging the cable and/or connections has increased. Anything that can rub against the cable could cause a failure over time. Not to mention that most people don’t put away their tools correctly after changing a flat and simply throw them back into the tire well. Plus you will have most people trying to cram the full size flat back into the same tire well that the donut was in. Believe me, I worked in a tire shop while going to school and 99% of all flat replacements that came in had the tools, jack, and flat just crammed into tire well. It would only take one person to get harmed/electrocuted and the manufacturer would be sued. It also prevents people from messing around with the cable in the first place.
I think you mentioned to say 3D printed not “laser “
In the past 31 years of driving I had flat tire only once (jinx!!! lol). So for my kind of driving, spare tire is not needed as long as the puncture kit works. Spare tire needs to be inflated to 55 PSI and also need to change that tire every 10 years. Not worth it.
My 2019 rav4 can fit a full-size spare, no issues.
On long trips I go buy a full size rim and tire to make sure I can go and make it back.
Were these actual "blowouts" or just flat tires?
They were bad enough that the compressor and fix a flat that came with the car would not fill the tire, but I wouldn’t classify them as blowouts. Just very large holes that wouldn’t close.
@@SideGigGuy Wow, that's really bad luck. In several decades of driving (many US states and 3 foreign countries), I've never had any kind of blowout.
I have a 15 year old Lexus it has a spare I’m 70 hopefully it’s my last car I’ll drive it for the next 20 years if I have to
The last new car I bought was 1973 I’m a quick learner I bought all used cars after that I buy 10 year old used cars and drive them for at least 10 years😂
I’m 56, and I probably have at least 1-2 more new cars left in me. I expect to get 500K miles out of this car, but I drive 25K a year. I hope it makes 20 years, I’d be happy with 15!
A damned shame the manufacturers won't do this...🙄
I hope the tire or wheel is not resting on that high voltage cable. And I highly doubt that plastic will hold the tire in place if you get into a serious collision. Running the cable through the spare tire well like that is a total hack by Toyota.
The pieces are designed to stop just that, the tire not resting on the cable. However, you are very correct. That 3-D printed materials would probably not hold up in a serious collision.
That said, I might not hold up in a serious collision.
Furthermore, my rule on hybrids is I get out of the car in any kind of collision and stand out in the ditch. Much safer.
This doesn’t make any sense
Are you saying that cargo space you can’t ever put anything back there because the high voltage cable might be rubbed? Well then that’s just a terrible design by Toyota.
What if I’m moving and I wanna stack a bunch of stuff back there? Or if im going to the airport and I need to put my luggage back there?
Either this rubbing of the cable is not true or it’s a terrible design by toyota.
I agree. The space is shaped like a circle, obviously for a spare!!
So you do realize there was a reason that Toyota didn’t put a spare in the space? Even though you can make a bracket that allows a donut spare to be mounted over the connection, doesn’t mean there isn’t a risk. As you said yourself, you have to be careful with that cable and the connector when installing the kit to avoid injury or damaging the vehicle. So the best way to keep people from accidentally damaging the cable and connector is to not have them messing around in that area. If anything rubs against the cable, it could eventually damage it. The biggest problem is when a person changes their flat, they usually just cram the tools, jack, and flat back into the same space as the donut spare was in. I saw it many times when I worked at a tire shop in St Louis. People would jam a full size flat into the smaller space provided for the donut thinking it should fit. And if you push hard enough, they could mange to just wedge them in. Imagine what would happen if someone tried to do that with this kind of setup.
What it comes done to is that the manufacturers don’t want you messing around with that cable and connector. Back in the 80s when carburetors were still being used, but controlled electrically, the fuel mixture screws war capped off to keep people from messing with them. Too many people thought they could simply adjust the mixture like they had done on older carburetors, but what they did actually made the cars run worse. So a simple solution was to cap off the screws. That big plastic plug you took out was basically the same thing, a deterrent from people messing around with something they shouldn’t be messing around with. I hope you never have any issues with the cable, connector, or even the battery after installing this kit. If you do, I doubt that the dealer will treat it as a warranty issue.
ERH MAH GERD....how have I managed on motorcycles for...thinks for a second...dang neeah on fiddy years without a spar tire?
You are one tough cookie.
@@SideGigGuy It's a non problem. The reason people are so reliant on spares is they don't look after their tyres. They are clueless as to how to get longevity from them. I hesitated buying a new car for the wife when I saw the space saver spare. 75,000kms later, no flats, it's kind of a total non issue. I run quality tyres, I run them at or near their maximum rated pressures, I get excellent mileage, often double what I hear some people whining about, and zero flats. A quick look back at previous vehicles reveals 1.5million kms since the last flat. My work vehicle doesn't do a lot of mileage, but I run 8 ply light truck tyres on it and got 100,000kms from the last set. They were 12 years old when changed. I find when the tread depth gets shallow you'll start picking up screws or nails. The last set had a nail in one tyre when I had them changed, but it had never gone flat. The people who complain the loudest about new cars not having spares are typically the kind of people who, if you opened the boot (trunk for you weirdoes) and checked their spare, you'd find it was date expired and bald. Tyres here are legal only 7 years from manufacture (10 for commercial tyres). Because they are made of components that degrade over time. So the kind of person whining that new cars don't have spares, are exactly the kind of person who previously was entirely happy bolting a bald expired tyre to their car, like a time bomb ticking away as they drive. I carry a space saver and a plug kit in the wifes car. If the tyre is beyond plugging, the space saver will get you there. Plugging is faster than changing wheels anyway. EVs are hard on tyres because they weigh much more than ICE vehicles in a similar class. It's one of the environmental fallacies of EVs. They'll generate microplastics at twice the rate of smaller ICE cars. There is no perfect solution out there. Just more imperfect choices.
Toyota would’ve gladly sold you the spare tire kit. They just didn’t want to give it free. 👍🏻
Understand that EVs/Hybrids are seriously heavier than gas vehicles and require spares with extra load capacity and ply ratings.
You should always wear high voltage gloves when working with any high voltage cables on a ev!
Agreed!. I scoured the house and was real surprised that we didn’t have any rubber gloves, even for cleaning. Which probably would’ve been sufficient with rubber soul shoes. It would’ve been horrible if that video would’ve ended up being a snuff film.
@@SideGigGuy I’m actually Beulah’s husband a gm auto technician for 42 years. I just want everyone to realize how dangerous ev high voltage is and stay safe. Electric or gasoline cars are extremely dangerous .
laser printed?
3D Printed. fixed it
OMG!! And I said “Laser printed”. THREE TIMES!!! 🫢😬
Yes, laser 3D printing is a thing: SLS - Selective Laser Sintering. But this one looks like FDM to me.
@@mnus2016 Yeah, that's definitely FDM (fused deposition modeling).
@@mnus2016 you are correct but would be prohibitively expensive for such a product.
Pretty sure it was just a honest mistake by the creator
Lucky you didn't get a flat driving into the garage but you were prepared.
😂😂😂 I need to actually do a test run to make sure jack will work, tire fits, etc…. Hey, I never checked the air pressure on the spare
Toyota is hit and miss on spare tires. The RAV4 still has one, but not the Lexus NX which is derived from it. I'm waiting to see the specs on the '26 RAV4. If they have dropped the spare, I will get a '25.
This car is just like a RAV4, in fact, I’ve confused it for a RAV4 in the parking lot more than than once. Body shape is identical.
Why would the government allow the car manufacturers to not privide a spare tire. These car manufacturers' greed are out of control.
Spend 100 grand, or more, on a Tesla, and they give you a can of puncture pray. Good deal.
Looks like FDM to me.
As if electric/hybrid vehicles were not expensive enough, now you have to buy a spare separately. I call bs.
Pretty soon you’ll buy a car “wheels sold separately “.
Umtil your Amazon tire loses the air.
I bet you broke your warranty.
Hmmmm…. I didn’t even think about that. If my powertrain or hybrid were to ever malfunction, I think I could remove this modification pretty easily. Hopefully my dealership doesn’t watch UA-cam.
You lost me when you said you actually bought an EV.
BWAAAAHAHAHAHA...
And he never used the spare… ever.
I'm 70 years old, and between me and my family, I have had at least 20 cars or trucks. Since the advent of small portable dc compressors and tire plug kits, i never needed to change a tire on the road in the past 20 years. Save your money 💰 and learn how to plug a tire
What if the hole is too big for the plug? Or you have a sidewall blowout?
I used to do the same. But my last flat blew a big hole in my sidewall, on the inside.
Ha forgot to inflate the spare.
LOL - I was thinking the same!
I'd rather be provided spare tire. At the moment, I won't buy any car without spare tire. Idiotic car makers.
You paid all that money to Toyota, so they could delete the spare, make the car lighter and better fuel economy. Your roadside
service from mobile phone is now the spare tire. Same idea with smaller gas tanks, make the car lighter and better fuel economy. Your roadside service is also your reserve fuel tank. It's all about hybrid fuel economy bragging that sold you the car.
Now the Emergency Disconnect is no longer easy and fast to reach for the fd
The high price is one issue, the 2nd issue I see is that 3D printed plastic is layered in the same direction that it would experience loading in an accident, upward. If the 3D printed layers let go or the structure fails now you have a 50lb skull crushing spare tire bouncing around the cabin in addition to everything else bad happening during an accident. I'd love someone to make a metal bracket, sure metal will bend but it's less likely to fail all at once and release the tire. I completely understand they need to recoup their time spent engineering this, but $400 PLUS the tire and tool kit is a steep price. If it was $400 all in then no brainer.
OMG - $400.. yeah, no thxs. Air compressor & AAA membership. F that.
Ok, I’m lost! You say if you put a spare tire in the trunk, “you’ll never have a flat again”! So, a spare tire will keep you from getting a flat tire?!?!?!?!AMAZING! That means you’ll never have to use that spare tire! Unless, someone steals a tire, then you need it, right? Grammatical English Language, gotta love it!
Understanding a joke must take time?
I truly prove Murphy’s Law. And I know just having the spare will prevent flat tires in the same way that not having the spare caused two flat tires less than six months on a brand new car. And I had a previous experience with my last car, no spare and countless flat tires. Well, I could count them. I think it wasabout 10 two years.
@@SideGigGuy yeah, I know exactly what you meant. Just couldn’t resist
Good day to you
@@mrjeff2396 Lol, it was truly uncanny, and I am not exaggerating. I didn’t want to spend the money on a spare tire and a jack, and these 3-D parts were a little pricey as well. But I know that now I won’t have any flat tires I just know it.
@@SideGigGuy Murphy’s law hopefully will stay true to you!
My vehicle is a 2019, F150 SPORT. Took me over a month to learn how to access the jack tools. (Inside cab, behind rear bench seat on right side!) A month!!! I’ve never had to use it. knock knock. Bonus: The access port to winch down the spare (under the rear of truck bed) requires key 🔑 to unlock port). This ride has done me well! 2y past: from COS,CO to UT, NV, & CA, N to OR & WA, east to ID, MT, WY, back to CO. This year, East I-70 to DC (daughter retired from Army, I’m retired USAF), and return w/ side to Niagara Falls). I had guns, so no Canada visit. Planning for next year trip to AK via Canada. I’ll be sure to complete paperwork for my guns (I carry LEOSA)! 4yr past was to DC for visit!
I bring down the spare tire once a year to check pressure. The 4 roadies have the sensor stem, but not the spare. You caught me by total surprise as I thought spares were simply replaced with donuts these days. Totally unaware of the no spare at all concept!
Take care and happy drives!
To say repeatedly the parts are laser printed ads no value to your message when in the end they’re still made of plastic.
Your biggest problem is that you drank the Kool Aid about something electric is better than combustion engine for a car.
I have a solution. Don't buy a hybrid
I know a MUCH better solution, don't buy a Toyota hybrid!
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