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I DUG into the new CHINESE 003 CARRIER Fujian and this is what I found.

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  • With the new Fujian carrier, ex 003, being launched, we think that you may like a summary of all the videos we have dedicated to it and to the Chinese naval aviation.
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    TIMESTAMPS
    00:00 - Intro
    01:27 - Part 1: 003 Carrier
    01:27 - History
    03:19 - 003 Specs
    08:45 - Why the Carrier?
    13:45 - Part 2: Chinese Carrier Air Wings
    13:45 - Main Mission
    15:06 - Carrier Air Wing
    16:11 - KJ-600 (AWACS)
    20:09 - Tankers
    21:10 - Drones
    24:47 - Part 3: The Combat Component
    24:47 - J-15
    30:09 - J-20
    35:01 - J-35
    39:40 - Outro
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  • @jimpollard9392
    @jimpollard9392 2 роки тому +106

    This presentation struck me, an ex US navy pilot, as some of the best open source intel work you could find. (The elephant startled me.) Subb'ed.

    • @level1selamat155
      @level1selamat155 2 роки тому +3

      Flabbergasted, ex pilot watching UA-cam...low

    • @user-pn3im5sm7k
      @user-pn3im5sm7k 2 роки тому +3

      @@level1selamat155 Yes we do watch UA-cam too haha

  • @brimfire
    @brimfire 2 роки тому +58

    You are literally the best defense analysis YT provider out there. How could you NOT be a Patreon of this man?! Keep up the amazing work my friend.

    • @savagespud8038
      @savagespud8038 2 роки тому +1

      This man with lazarpig and peeing r litterly gods

  • @becoolenough
    @becoolenough 2 роки тому +106

    3:34 In addition to Dalian Shipyard and Shanghai Jiangnan Shipyard, there are two other shipyards in China that are capable of building aircraft carriers, one is Shanghai Hudong Shipyard, their existing dock and the surrounding environment is not conducive to launching large ships like aircraft carriers, but they are already relocating and will be able to take orders to build aircraft carriers in a few years, and the other is COMEC in Guangzhou, if China has an urgent need to build multiple aircraft carriers, these four shipyards can start building aircraft carriers at the same time

    • @stupidburp
      @stupidburp 2 роки тому +25

      I think that the PLAN will probably wait until the aircraft and catapult are verified with 003 Fujian and nuclear propulsion with 004 before they start a surge in carrier construction.

    • @andresmartinezramos7513
      @andresmartinezramos7513 2 роки тому +6

      @@stupidburp Yeah, this are the testbed designs. Kinda like USS Enterprise (CVN-65).

    • @alphonsoquenneh1855
      @alphonsoquenneh1855 2 роки тому

      Wow this why United States is scared of China power!!

    • @hotstepper887
      @hotstepper887 2 роки тому

      You want to take on Russia? China? Hahahaha really? The USA? Who can't beat farmer Taliban?
      I mean seriously, what do we know? We know Russia is supremely confident they do have the ability to bring down all USA ICBM's, while we all know the USA has no defence against even the older Soviet ICBM's, let alone the modern lethal ones like Sarmat, carrying up to 24 MERVS, over speeds of Mach 20.7; 4.3 miles per second; 15,480 miles per hour.
      And because we saw the USA pull out of the nuclear arms treaty, (that prohibited the creation of any short-mid range nuclear weapons)?, today, now sees even the old defensive threat of "MAD", as an obsolete defensive threat today.
      As Russia has already created those missiles, and done so creating, hypersonic mid-range missiles, able to carry Nuclear tipped warheads, or full nuclear warheads, travelling at speeds not seen before, being able to strike and hit all US defensive stations and platforms, along with all US nuclear silos, and destroy them all within minutes, long before the US could even begin to think about any sort of retaliatory launch.
      Today Russia has the S-500 anti-ballistic missile defence systems, able to operate alongside Russia's new A-235 anti-ballistic missile system, with the ability to shoot down hypersonic attack weapons, hypersonic orbital platforms, ballistic missiles, and their combat units, as well as satellites in near space.
      ICBM's of the USA can be tracked and shot down quite easily by Russia today. Any Nuclear effort from the USA today?, would see them lose, and lose big time.
      Any conventional War against Russia? They quite simply lose, that's not even up for debate, they could try to land 250,000 troops, and they'd all simply be chewed up and spat out, so where the American see Russia losing?
      Only God knows, as everything says otherwise. The USA has never met a fully militarily capable country! Russia is the biggest test of them all.
      You know, Russia is about 960 times bigger than Kuwait?. When the USA invaded Kuwait against Iraq, the USA deployed 750,000 troops. How many troops do you think they'd need to attack and invade Russia? LOLOLOLOL

    • @hotstepper887
      @hotstepper887 2 роки тому

      We read so many Americans making wild outlandish claims about China today, yet they deny everything we do see from their own government, for example, do we see China invading countries all over the world, murdering many of them, while illegally building military bases in those countries, they only use to steal, and to syphon off their oil resources
      Or, do we see China supporting the criminals in Ukraine, or supplying them with weapons they use to target and murder civilians?
      Do we see China trawling the world, invading all over the place, Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan, and Syria, to name just a few, and all while using lies, propaganda, and bought and paid for, terrorism?
      Do we see China making threats against anyone else, or any other country? You see, to me, and to most people of this world, everything we see the Americans all claim about China?, is actually, exactly what their own country really does, and really is.
      China built an enormous wall all around their country, to keep the invaders out! Not to keep the people in! LOL.
      If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, eventually the people will come to believe it ~ Joseph Goebbels, 1941. You only need to say it once to an American, as long as it was the American government saying it, they'd all believe it.

  • @obsidianstatue
    @obsidianstatue 2 роки тому +107

    1) Integrated Electric Propulsion system or IEPS, does not always mean the steam or gas turbine are not connected to the propeller shaft.
    The Ford Class has its steam turbines connected to the propellers for example.
    The 003 Fujian, LIKELY has the steam turbine connected to the propellers as well, due to some analysts being skeptical of electric motors being powerful enough to propel a 80,000+ ton carrier to 30 knots.
    The key to generate enough electricity for the EMALS is not necessarily determined by what is connected to the propellers it's having an Integrated and Intelligent system that can distribute the generated electricity to subsystems.
    003 Fujian is speculated to use supercapacitors to store electricity generated by the steam turbine, to be released almost instantly to the catapults, Ford Class uses the flywheel.
    2) J-35 being the stealthy carrier based fighter is a certainty, because it has been seen flying in the PLA test units with J-16 from the air force.
    J-35 represents a important milestone, it's the first advanced fighter for China to have the adequate Chinese engine equipped right from the start.
    since the J-35 it uses WS-13E or WS-19 mid thrust engines, it's also somewhat easier to developed compared to the WS-15 high trust engine for the J-20
    3) The J-15B catapult version, will be expected to have massive upgrades, from AESA radars, new avionics, new Chinese engines, likely a variant of the WS-10, as well as large amount of composite material to reduce the weight.
    Coupled with the catapult launch system, the J-15 as large fighter will be a formidable challenger for any 4th gen fighter of any country.
    In a way, the J-15B is continuing the legacy of the F-14.

    • @robertsneddon731
      @robertsneddon731 2 роки тому +9

      The 65,000 tonne QE-class carriers are pure electric propulsion and the Russian Leader-class nuclear icebreakers of a similar size are also purely electric propulsion. Icebreakers require large amounts of shaft "horsepower" to break thick ice even if they don't propel the ships at carrier speeds and the Leaders are expected to provide 120MW (160,000 hp) from its four motors. That sort of propulsive power would easily drive a modern 100,000 tonne carrier hull design at 30 knots plus. Saying that, the first of the smaller new Russian 35,000 tonne Arktika-class nuclear icebreakers burned out one of its three motors on trials. It still managed a winter icebreaking campaign that year while a new motor was being manufactured for it.

    • @lolasdm6959
      @lolasdm6959 2 роки тому +4

      J-15 will be a missile truck.

    • @jwickerszh
      @jwickerszh 2 роки тому

      I remember this promotional video that also suggested they used electric motors. Worth a watch ua-cam.com/video/gM_hQLUO7rI/v-deo.html

    • @stupidburp
      @stupidburp 2 роки тому

      I think that the various naval fighter projects are primarily being developed concurrently for risk mitigation. It increases the number of options to choose from. If one project struggles, others can make up for it. The CCP would want to avoid losing face by lacking aircraft for their carrier projects.

    • @douginorlando6260
      @douginorlando6260 2 роки тому +1

      By then, J-15B will no doubt carry upgraded PL-15 missiles and super long range missiles dependent on networked sensors. Also I expect a tightly integrated sensor network by the task force, including satellites, land sensors, buoy sensors, “fishing boat”sensors to allow detecting, tracking, targeting everything within 1000+ km.

  • @ecleveland1
    @ecleveland1 2 роки тому +35

    Remember its not just an aircraft carrier that makes a country and its navy powerful. It's the entire carrier strike group and all of the logistics and resources behind it. This of course includes the highly trained personnel and the training centers that produce them in short order.

    • @jwickerszh
      @jwickerszh 2 роки тому +10

      True but the rest of the ships and systems are equally modern and capable, so beside experience I don't think they are lacking.

    • @WordBearer48
      @WordBearer48 2 роки тому +1

      China has an extremely large and highly advanced surface fleet

    • @miguellines5907
      @miguellines5907 2 роки тому +6

      055 and the newer version 052DL is a force to be reckoned with that i don't Arley Burke can fight these warship. And these warship were equipped by many super advanced missile like YJ-21, YJ-100, YJ-12, YJ-18, YJ-83 (half of this missile have terminal speed of M5 and half of M10).

    • @dasbubba841
      @dasbubba841 2 роки тому +9

      @@miguellines5907 Paper specifics are not everything. The Burke class is a multi-role surface combatant, with an emphasis on missile defense. Their main role is to protect the carrier with area missile defense (aided by the powerful Aegis system). Most US offensive anti-ship power is actually in their attack sub fleet (Los Angeles, Seawolf, and Virginia class SSNs). The Chinese have invested heavily into surface combatants, but their sub fleet is pretty lackluster. Their SSNs are largely considered to be the loudest subs, in contrast to the US having the quietest subs.

    • @mytech6779
      @mytech6779 2 роки тому

      And don't forget attention to detail, small things are difficult to see and they add up.

  • @truquichan
    @truquichan 2 роки тому +96

    Long live and prosperity to the algorithm.

    • @billahler7728
      @billahler7728 2 роки тому

      Lol

    • @michaelwallis56
      @michaelwallis56 2 роки тому

      We might as well worship that which controls the contents of our brains.
      I wonder what our great algolord has in store for us all?
      I wonder what is the endgame?
      Great content tho!

  • @archer1133
    @archer1133 2 роки тому +99

    TIMESTAMPS
    0:00 - Intro
    1:27 - Part 1: 003 Carrier
    1:27 - History
    3:19 - 003 Specs
    8:45 - Why the Carrier?
    13:45 - Part 2: Chinese Carrier Air Wings
    13:45 - Main Mission
    15:06 - Carrier Air Wing
    16:11 - KJ-600 (AWACS)
    20:09 - Tankers
    21:10 - Drones
    24:47 - Part 3: The Combat Component
    24:47 - J-15
    30:09 - J-20
    35:01 - J-35
    39:40 - Outro

    • @Millennium7HistoryTech
      @Millennium7HistoryTech  2 роки тому +22

      Thank you so much for doing this! Much Appreciated! 😍

    • @leonal522
      @leonal522 2 роки тому +15

      35:57 Scary *Elephant* in the room

    • @saqibshafin
      @saqibshafin 2 роки тому +2

      Very nicely done, this tree style!

    • @user-ug4rm2rp6v
      @user-ug4rm2rp6v 2 роки тому

      没中文看不懂

    • @AndrewRoberts11
      @AndrewRoberts11 2 роки тому

      @@Millennium7HistoryTech a follow on video on the physics / aerodynamics of a catapult vs a ski jump, with the AoA, ground effect, parabolic curve, energy, ... getting a mention, might get a few views.

  • @user-lt6ke9hg8f
    @user-lt6ke9hg8f 2 роки тому +33

    I am Chinese. . I used to work in Shanghai Jiangnan Shipyard.
    003's catapult. Not actually an electromagnetic catapult. . but artificial power. . 300 people are responsible for pulling a giant rubber band. Pull towards the stern. Finally secured by a huge snap. . . When you need to catapult the plane. . The buckle suddenly released. The plane ejected. .(inside the hull)
    It takes 30 minutes to eject a plane. . Efficiency is very poor. .
    And the deck of the aircraft carrier is very thin. The ground floor is supported by a complex steel structure. Landing a plane with a full load can be very dangerous. Because not all positions can withstand the impact dryly.
    the most important is. Lack of motivation. 003 can only run 20 knots. . The failure rate is too high. Two of the engines are backup engines. .
    003 is a symbol. . In fact, it was created to "scare" Americans.
    In fact, Chinese military equipment has a wide range of counterfeiting. . Many things are not practical. Only limited "shows" are possible. . Just like the J20. Can't even do maneuvers. Afraid of falling apart.🤫🤫🤫🤫
    You who live in a "democratic and free" country. . may be hard to imagine.
    but. . In dictatorial evil China. . everything is normal. .
    Yes. . On 003 The man in charge of the catapult. . All are "Uyghurs"
    If there are Chinese people passing by. . See my message. . I need you to "stand up bravely". . Rescue the hard-working Uyghurs on 003. After the future 003 is in service. These people will keep dying. . Exhausted. Their physical strength is capable of pulling the catapult up to 10 times per day. . And because China lacks food. These people may be exhausted. starve. .
    Is there any Chinese here? Tell your story.

    • @benny19646
      @benny19646 2 роки тому +11

      I agree with you. My family I'm inner Mongolia were ordered by the chunese governemt to supply them every thing that's made out of iron and steel we own for them to use. My father also give up his bike (passed down from my grandfather as we can't afford a car) to them to use on the air carrier too. We are all very angry here.
      If you just leave us alone for another q5 20 years we will over throw the governemt. So yeah please stay quite and give us more time ⏲️

    • @astartes8621
      @astartes8621 2 роки тому

      Lolwut

    • @user-sf9bm6gp4x
      @user-sf9bm6gp4x 2 роки тому +6

      同志辛苦了~

    • @tangshanboy5491
      @tangshanboy5491 2 роки тому +5

      牛了大逼了

    • @shisidishaoxia
      @shisidishaoxia 2 роки тому

      @@benny19646 hahahaha

  • @leonal522
    @leonal522 2 роки тому +39

    Chinese aircraft carrier - Fujian's EMALS (electromagnetic aircraft launch system) is 1 generation ahead of the EMALS system onboard USS Gerald Ford: The Chinese design team learned that the U.S. USS Gerald Ford was struggling with their Emal system 5 years ago and realized that their MVAC was what gave them problems. They then quickly switched to developing their own HV/MVDC integrated electronics system. It turned out later that they made the right choice. This is a HUGE benefit and made all the difference: MVDC is a lot more stable, reliable, and versatile.
    Also, there's something else you don't know: The initial plan for Fujian was not Emals but a steam aircraft launch system. However, as MVDC integrated electronics system and later EMALS was developed, the Chinese engineers adjusted their plans.
    Long story short, they eventually completed both systems and had them running side by side to compare their efficacy, and EMALS came out on top. As a result, the original blueprint had to be readjusted to have structural changes to accommodate the new EMALS system while the steam catapult system was put into storage.
    The chief engineer received The August 1 Medal also known as the Order of Bayi directly from Xi Jinping on June 6, 2019, for his achievements. Only ten recipients so far in China's entire history.

    • @rinzler9775
      @rinzler9775 2 роки тому

      I bet any Money though the "chief engineer" knows nothing about engineering and was assigned as the CCP party connected representitive. The real engineers were kept supressed under him.

    • @leonal522
      @leonal522 2 роки тому +11

      @@rinzler9775 Good story, very imaginative. lmao!

    • @rinzler9775
      @rinzler9775 2 роки тому +1

      @@leonal522 it takes a team of brilliant people to make such a feat, and usually not all done by a single person. The CCP is also renoun to do thus sort of thing. It would be good to know the true creators of the tech. Defend the CCP all you want, but that's just the facts of life, they can't be changed no matter how you "feel" about it.

    • @leonal522
      @leonal522 2 роки тому +14

      @@rinzler9775 ”that's just the facts of life“: Very true. Reminds me of my WASP professor who took all the credit for our published paper while I did every single dirty work.

    • @rinzler9775
      @rinzler9775 2 роки тому

      @@leonal522 the ones that steal ideas and claim for themselves the most are Indian, middle east, and Chinese bosses.

  • @akirasean4080
    @akirasean4080 2 роки тому +100

    Before you read any further, you gonna need Hazmat suit. This comment sections is gonna be (or already is) toxic

    • @assertivekarma1909
      @assertivekarma1909 2 роки тому +6

      Maybe you should stop assuming the worst from the onset, might create a self fulfilling prophesy. These comments seem mostly reasonable. Considering the number of obnoxious Kremlin & CCP bots that are common, this thread is going ok.

    • @zetareticulan321
      @zetareticulan321 2 роки тому

      @Assertive Karma
      Look who's talking. A CIA disinformation bot.

    • @andresmartinezramos7513
      @andresmartinezramos7513 2 роки тому +8

      @@assertivekarma1909 It could be worse, but it is certainly not great.

    • @doomslayer4276
      @doomslayer4276 2 роки тому

      @@assertivekarma1909 are you bot ??? Just stop spamming lmao 🤣 , why are you butthurt?

    • @hiigara2085
      @hiigara2085 2 роки тому +1

      Lmao

  • @ipfreak
    @ipfreak 2 роки тому +9

    actually russia didn't sell the landing arrest system at all. chia did make inquiry but in the end the deal didn't go through. so the landing arrest systems are 100% indigenous...

  • @vdotme
    @vdotme 2 роки тому +21

    01:24 - I was actually a little excited about Otis taking the lead in presentation in the same back & forth fashion we already enjoy from you 2. Please make it happen.

  • @michaeldenesyk3195
    @michaeldenesyk3195 2 роки тому +49

    My friend, you have done another great analysis of the future of Chinese Naval Airpower. One very important element of operating a conventional blue water Carrier Strike Group is sustainability, fuel, ammunition, food, etc. If the Chinese are going to want to challenge the US Navy and other allied nations in a blue water campaign, then they must have to have a robust fleet of oilers and ammunition ships. Just like a ground campaign, it comes down to logistics.

    • @deepseer
      @deepseer 2 роки тому

      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_901_fast_combat_support_ship

    • @112313
      @112313 2 роки тому +22

      Do note that the chinese would not be, military speaking, offensively striking the americans in the high seas far from chinese waters.
      More likely these carriers would be used defensively, defending chinese merchant shipping from the genocidal americans.
      Also, i would agree with you on the need for now logistics assets, but china being china, those fleet oilers and repair ships, service vessels are old hats... Relatively easy to build, en-massed.

    • @hotstepper887
      @hotstepper887 2 роки тому +2

      You want to take on Russia? Hahahaha really? You mean with the big bad USA?, that country that only talks like they have a military record like Great Britain, only that's so wrong, it's just hilarious seeing it, oh deary me. LOL. The truth is, the United States has one of the very worst, and most cowardly military records of any country on earth. Yet read what you all think, man?, It's most bizarre!
      The United States was founded in 1776, (even that's a lie, LOL). She's been at war for 226 out of her 246 calendar years of existence. In other words, there were only 20 calendar years, in which the U.S. did not wage any wars. The Wars waged were never against any militarily capable countries, but only countries considered the Third World. Any resistance from those countries, always saw the USA lose! Pick any year since 1776, and there's about a 91% chance that America was involved in some war during that calendar year, and 73% chance they lost it.
      No U.S. president truly qualifies as a peacetime president. Instead, all U.S. presidents can technically be considered “war presidents.” The U.S. has never gone a decade without war. The only time the U.S. went five years without war (1937-42) was during the isolationist period (cowardly period) of the Great Depression. Since the 2nd World War, the USA has started 201 armed conflicts, with around 40-50 million (mostly civilian casualties). And usually based on false premises/lies. (And failed in most). This is more than 2 conflicts started based on nothing more than lies and propaganda per year. LOL, AWESOME!
      Oh, no! Wait!! What am I saying? Silly me! We all know the USA is the most powerful military country in the whole wide world today! Such a powerful force, they all claim. Hilarious. Reminder...
      Beaten and loses in Vietnam. After using chemical weapons, Napalm, and Agent Orange, burning down entire towns and villages, killing hundreds of thousands of women and children, while losing the war against a bunch of tunnel kids, they tried to burn alive! Such a powerful force, they all claim. Hilarious.
      When a million Chinese ran over the hill in Korea?, they fled and got chased back behind the 38th parallel, then gets out of the War, with a ''face-saving'' armistice. Such a powerful force, they all claim. Hilarious.
      Thought they'd force China to purchase their opium in the 2nd opium war, yet is the only one defeated by China, as both the British and French had won convincing victories, while the USA, humiliated, and well defeated, had to limp home, all alone. LOL, Such a powerful force they all claim. Hilarious.
      Fought for a mere 28 months in WW2, and hilariously, for years, claimed it was because of the USA we won the War LOL. When we all know the facts say the exact opposite. It's not even up for debate. If Britain had not fought WW2?, the USA would no longer exist. Yet unbelievably they still try to say the same today?, with their propaganda history, they've all been spoon-fed from birth, as if a real part of their history. Such a powerful force, they all claim. Hilarious.
      Claimed they forced the USSR to remove its Cuban missiles, or they had threatened War? While the truth is, that it was the USA that was forced to remove their missiles and close down their military base in Turkey, before the USSR would agree to remove their Cuban missiles. The complete opposite of what they all got taught. LOL. Such a powerful force, they all claim. Hilarious.
      Claimed Japan surrendered after the second nuclear bomb?, when we now know today, that was, guess what? You got it, just another American lie. Japan had ignored the first Nuclear attack, they also ignored the second Nuclear attack and Japan only surrendered after Stalin had kept his promise to Invade East Asia, and the Soviets crushed the Japanese.
      That alone removed any hope the Japs had of getting Stalin to act as a mediator for a conditional surrender, and it was only then the Japanese surrendered (as we now can read from the people of the time). The timing of the surrender proves It, It was indeed just another American lie, and is still to this day, by far, the most cowardly act ever committed by anyone on earth. Such a powerful force, they all claim. Hilarious.
      Thought they bossed Syria, with their bought and paid for terrorism, only to then have to sit back and watch Russia kick their terrorist's to pieces over and over again, while the USA were helpless to even resist it, and so instead they resorted to, once again, more lies, more criminal attacks on a legitimate leadership of a sovereign country. Such a powerful force, they all claim. Hilarious.
      Thought they'd show Russia, (as they supplied Georgia with their military assistance). LMAO, more like hindrance! Then had to watch Russia annihilate and destroy all the military equipment they'd just given away, every piece, exactly like we see them doing in Ukraine today! PMSL. Such a powerful force, they all claim. Hilarious.
      They've destroyed and ruined the lives of an entire country (again), Ukraine this time, with once again, more of their? Yep, you've guessed it, more lies, more supplying weapons to criminals, terrorists and Nazis, and are only working against all the interests of the Ukrainian people, and still are, while pathetically trying to blame it on Russia, such a powerful force they all claim. Hilarious.
      They claimed they'd kick the Taliban's ass (inside 3 months). The USA = A trillion dollars worth of military hardware. The Taliban = A dollars worth of military hardware. 20 years (after), the USA were going to kick their asses inside three months, the Taliban hold more ground today than they ever have, and the Yankee boys, as always, got sent home! LMAO!! Such a powerful force, they all claim. Hilarious.
      The USA struggles against the Taliban and many other non-militarily capable countries!, they've never met a fully militarily capable country. And you want to take on Russia? LOL... Go on then!!....
      Personally, I give the USA precisely zero chance against Russia, or China, or Iran, or even N. Korea, let alone both Russia and China as allies? LOL, who are these yanks fooling apart from themselves? Your military is only as good as your MEN! LOL @ the Yanks!
      The American 2022 = We're stronger today than we've ever been!!... Like that would be difficult? LOL.

    • @philipparana9225
      @philipparana9225 2 роки тому +5

      It takes decades upon decades to develop a navy of significant strike or defense capacity. You could hand over an entire carrier group to China and I guarantee they would have a hard time even bringing them back to China.

    • @marcusjames3814
      @marcusjames3814 2 роки тому +2

      Excatly it come down to logistics

  • @IrishCarney
    @IrishCarney 2 роки тому +7

    You were right about how an AEW/AWACS plane could be the basis of a tanker aircraft. But you forgot another force multiplier: Carrier On-board Delivery. The US Navy's Hawkeye and Greyhound are basically the same platform, showing that the Chinese KJ-600 could also be the basis of a COD airplane to make logistics support for the carrier much faster and more efficient.

    • @Millennium7HistoryTech
      @Millennium7HistoryTech  2 роки тому +2

      Good observation

    • @IrishCarney
      @IrishCarney 2 роки тому

      @@Millennium7HistoryTech Thanks. And then there are the electronic warfare and anti-submarine roles. Looks like the Chinese have settled on using modified J-15s for the EW role, but who knows, for ASW, maybe they'll go fixed-wing.

  • @73north
    @73north 2 роки тому +6

    simply fantastic and in-depth video - of a vitally important subject - thank you for the hard work involved !

  • @DavyRo
    @DavyRo 2 роки тому +12

    Thank You Sir, for one of the best there is when explaining & educating us on these military platforms

  • @copetimusmaximus3363
    @copetimusmaximus3363 2 роки тому +33

    Your channel is a gem, thank you for the video🙏
    Lol at Americans $hitposting under each video related to Chinese and Russian military hardware😂

    • @assertivekarma1909
      @assertivekarma1909 2 роки тому +6

      The number of useless conjectures, often from people who have propaganda infused media landscapes is also amusing. The pretend reaction is mostly in your head.

    • @liammarra4003
      @liammarra4003 2 роки тому +3

      The cope and seethe is just absolutely delicious and delightful. If I didn't know any better....I say it's grade-A projection lmao

    • @tonymorris4335
      @tonymorris4335 2 роки тому +1

      @@liammarra4003 I mean, look at any modern post or video on American hardware and you'll see the same from foreign competitors. The # of times I've seen the Gripen pushed as the next "king of the sky fighter" and how it's better than the F22 because in a restricted dogfight it won etc is incredible. It's sure as shit not Americans doing those posts lol.

    • @bruderschweigen6889
      @bruderschweigen6889 2 роки тому

      Until you do anything other than talk you're all still 🐈 Russia struggling in Ukraine China struggling to take an island right off its coast were still the king yall just chasing the crown 👑 were waiting

  • @joeAK7.62
    @joeAK7.62 2 роки тому +12

    the new j15t variant overcome the issues, many speak good about them.
    i myself am a military conniseur and i love eastern military tech.
    my opinion: the j15t and j35 both also with dual seat will severly boost pla navy aviation, just as new kg 600.
    they even are working on an awacs flying boat, refuler and cargo which can start and land on carriers!
    its really impressive how damn fast china is getting mightier month by month!

  • @dexterlove6555
    @dexterlove6555 2 роки тому +3

    This is an amazing video. So many thoughts on your assessment. Your videos are informative

  • @reallifeengineer7214
    @reallifeengineer7214 2 роки тому +33

    Great video.
    I personally do not believe Beijing has an objective (even long term) of reaching the point of 2x carrier groups and "militarily defeating the US Pacific carrier fleet in blue water". Doing so gains Beijing nothing.
    Rather, the more sensible objective is to ensure open trade route throughout that entire SE Asia area, including Malacca straight.
    To do so, Beijing does not need an "overwhelming" force that could defeat the US carrier groups placed in the same area.
    Rather, Beijing simply needs an equitable amount of force, to serve as deterrent, to thwart any US efforts of shutting down the Malacca straight against Chinese commercial/merchant traffic.
    China is still early in its learning journey dealing with carriers. The US had started its journey since before WW2. China is now playing catch-up.
    How most western mass media portrays China's carrier 003 as some evil attempt at projecting military forces throughout the world, is extremely irresponsible reporting. (If judging by that same standard, then US had already done so before WW2 broke out - just look at how many US bases had already projected into the South-western Pacific, through presence in areas such as Guam, Philippines, Australia, etc.)
    In the recent decades, US on the international stage had behaved much like a bully. The western media had done a great job twisting the stories to legitimize it in the eyes of western audience (constituents, viewers, voters).
    Beijing's strategy appears to be protecting itself from becoming the next victim of this bullying behavior.

    • @williamtell1477
      @williamtell1477 2 роки тому

      Nonsense. China told Biden that democracies are over. They have openly threatened the people of Taiwan, a democracy, nearly daily for years. They have attempted to make open sea lanes theirs by declaration, against the international laws of sea. China intends to do some bullying and not be stopped. End of story.

    • @mario387mario6
      @mario387mario6 2 роки тому +4

      China's goal is Taiwan before the population collapse from an aging population. A problem most countries get in the next 20 to 40 years.

    • @babyyoda6344
      @babyyoda6344 2 роки тому +1

      We Americans are the savior of the world. We need those bases and carriers to bomb the evil countries back to the Stone Age. And we need the whole world’s wealth to maintain the power to save you.

    • @iumbo1234
      @iumbo1234 2 роки тому

      And it is awesome how fast they are progressing. A decade ago they were copying and old soviet carrier and now they do this.

    • @ewchi-m4n012
      @ewchi-m4n012 2 роки тому

      They want to protect their routes and deter any us attempts to help taiwan in a eventual ivasion, or strike first and leave them uncapable of an early response.

  • @liammarra4003
    @liammarra4003 2 роки тому +25

    What's not politically correct about saying the US is a maritime empire? Seems pretty spot on.

    • @dsdy1205
      @dsdy1205 2 роки тому

      People who conflate empire with mass oppression of the common populace I guess

    • @stupidburp
      @stupidburp 2 роки тому +3

      It wasn’t that. It was the suggestion that the Indian Navy might not be able to stop the PLA Navy that was a spicy comment. India has a strong Navy that they are rightly proud of. But, the PLAN is growing in strength much faster because of enormous budget disparity.

    • @suisinghoraceho2403
      @suisinghoraceho2403 2 роки тому

      The west always wants to gain moral high ground. It struggle to admit that it was and still is an exploitative force on the world stage.

    • @Spartan-jg4bf
      @Spartan-jg4bf 2 роки тому

      The US basically took over from the British Empire after WW2

    • @mxn1948
      @mxn1948 2 роки тому

      @@stupidburp indian navy is quite strong...to most countries in the world. but then most countries in the world barely have a navy. its actually weaksauce in the big boys club. their Israeli ship based air defence missile tops out at mach 2. many planes can literally fly faster than their air defence missiles. they got like what? 4 air defence destroyers in service. their one carrier is also way smaller. currently the vls count for china's destroyers is over 2000 cells, indians vls count is...126. they are proud of their bramos supersonic anti ship missile....mean while china is fielding ship based hypersonic weapons. theres just no comparison. if china's didnt have to guard its shores against the US+japan, china could totally lock down all of india's coast.

  • @GMATveteran
    @GMATveteran 2 роки тому +13

    7:00 - small comment with regards to the type of catapults being used - even though the steam catapult system is considered "older" & "less capable" compared to EMALS, since the PLAN has no experience with either system, & that a steam catapult requires very complex moving parts (not to mention a steam generator), installing a steam catapult on 003 probably would have been no less risky & operationally complicated for the PLAN than installing EMALS. Given that both options are comparably risky & complicated for the PLAN, it makes sense to go with the more advanced (& in some ways simpler) of the two options.

    • @jwickerszh
      @jwickerszh 2 роки тому +4

      Not just that, but EMALS are suitable for a much larger range of aircrafts including drones and easier to integrate into the light carriers for that purpose.

    • @zchen27
      @zchen27 2 роки тому +5

      @@jwickerszh And if I recall correctly EMALs are planned for future LHAs as well, which avoids the entire "we have to make the F-35 VTOL" issue the USMC ran into.

    • @jwickerszh
      @jwickerszh 2 роки тому

      @@zchen27 Yes.

    • @SerbanOprescu
      @SerbanOprescu 2 роки тому +3

      Yes, this is what I thought as well. It makes no difference to the Chinese Navy if it starts accumulating experience from zero on a steam catapult or an electromagnetic one. Your post is purely logic.

    • @horusfalcon
      @horusfalcon 2 роки тому

      @@zchen27 I might remind you that a carrier's deck is not the only place where VTOL comes in handy...

  • @kast6446
    @kast6446 9 місяців тому +1

    Although it's been a year since this video was uploaded. I still want to give some supplements on the history of J15 development.
    J15 indeed is a copy of Su-33, but there exists a story. Initially, the PLA Navy tried to buy Su-33 directly from Russia. Due to the crisis of Taiwan in 1996 and the incoming first carrier, the leadership of the Navy hoped the Russians could quickly provide a certain number of Su-33 and support of training. However, unfortunately, Su-33 is a jet that was designed in the era of Soviet Union in 90s. Sadly, soon, the Soviet Union was gone, and the development of Su-33 was stopped in the experiment verification face, and Russia only has around 30 (maybe less) Su-33. The Navy realized that Russia lost the ability to produce Su-33 quickly. Instead, the experts from the Navy went to Ukraine and got the prototype of the Su-33, which is named T-10K. So the Engineers take the T10K as a reference and build out the J15. Unfortunately, as I mentioned before, Su-33 was not able to finish the experiment verification because of the collapse of the Soviet Union, so the engineers and pilots needed to spend time and even life (there was a pilot died in the experiment) to finish this step.
    The year when Liaoning was announced to serve in the PLA Navy, I was a 15-year-old boy. During that time, there were lots of analyses published in both newspapers and magazines in China discuss when the Navy have its first carrier jet. Many expected that it would happen after 2 or maybe 3 years. But after half of the year, the CCTV have a live stream on the J15 take off from the Liaoning and landing back to the carrier. Everyone was shocked and couldn't believe that was true. Sadly, just a day after the J15 successfully finished its touch-and-go in front of every Chinese people who sit in front of the TV, the Chief designer of Liaoning Carrier, Luo, Yang, passed away.

  • @kanesmith9325
    @kanesmith9325 2 роки тому

    Great job mate , very thorough and entertaining, very funny but mostly informative and honest,
    Thanks

  • @patrickchong6579
    @patrickchong6579 2 роки тому +4

    I can't wait for the 007 carrier

  • @erikdavidantonio5368
    @erikdavidantonio5368 2 роки тому +12

    The great differentiator of the Type 003 Fujian is in advantages are:
    - It is not nuclear, therefore it can carry out maintenance in any common shipyard and the absence of atomic reactors, that is, it does not pollute the environment;
    - The Type 003 Fujian can be sold to any friendly country, ppos does not have nuclear technologies... "Brazil interested"! hahahaha
    - The Fujian has three electromagnetic catapults for launching aircraft. The Type 003 catapults are of the EMALS type (Electromagnetic Aircraft Launching System), similar to the four found on the USS Gerald R. Ford (CVN-78) and their catapult system instead of fixed cleats is used a system that helps the fighters to take off by means of magnetic energy much stronger and faster, that is, launch them more efficiently;
    - About 317 meters long, with more than 80 thousand tons of displacement and being "only 16 m smaller" than a North American aircraft carrier, the Type 003 Fujian can house different types of planes and helicopters, with an estimated capacity of 70 units. .
    The Brazilian Navy has already shown interest in this type of Chinese vessel with non-nuclear electromagnetic catapults, so they can be acquired. Embraer is in a project for a new fighter in partnership with the FAB to replace the "modernized" A4 SkyWalk fighters of the Brazilian Navy, with technologies acquired from Saab's Gripens E/F and with a 100% national engine. Since the US doesn't even sell its decommissioned aircraft carriers... hahahaha
    And the coolest thing of all is that the Chinese came to "learn how to use a catobar aircraft carrier here in Brazil", along with the Brazilian Navy when we had the São Paulo aircraft carrier that was decommissioned today!

    • @XxTheGreatDestroyerx
      @XxTheGreatDestroyerx 2 роки тому +14

      You’re literally crazy if you think that ship “does not pollute the environment”. What do you think it runs on if it’s not nuclear powered? The answer isn’t solar power.

    • @deth3021
      @deth3021 2 роки тому +5

      @@XxTheGreatDestroyerx not to mention, it os pretty crazy to say that nuclear pollutes the enviroment.

    • @suisinghoraceho2403
      @suisinghoraceho2403 2 роки тому

      @@XxTheGreatDestroyerx maybe add the word “as much”? The nuclear crafts while running would be relatively clean. The small amount of radiation is not a big problem. Still, maintenance would be tricky for non-nuclear countries. When eventually decommissioned, nuclear waste would be a huge headache. Going non-nuclear does significantly increase export potentials.
      Besides, it makes sense to validate the rest of core technology before laying down the huge cost of building a nuclear hull.

  • @pilgrim8610
    @pilgrim8610 Рік тому

    Best information you could reach on youtube from a single source....as always great job sir wish the best.

  • @tek5358
    @tek5358 Рік тому +1

    So, just a thought, but if they have a carrier deployed, low observable, high maneuverability, air superiority platform, and they're working on deploying drones from carriers, this seems like a lower cost version of the f-22 configuration where they have a support wing of data link connected, automated weapons carrying drones

  • @MrKbtor2
    @MrKbtor2 2 роки тому +2

    Really well thought out and presented analysis

  • @tonysu8860
    @tonysu8860 2 роки тому +11

    Regarding any J-35 being a stolen copy of the F-35,
    I'll believe that only when I see how the J-35 flies and what's in it.
    People say the J-35 looks like an F-35, but that's the worst kind of evidence of espionage, for a long time it's incredibly simple to re-construct a 3D model of anything extracted from images of an original and it's not like the F-35 image is a big secret... Photos of F-35 from every conceivable angle and in every mode of flight exist everywhere. A beginning graphics arts student could use those to create a wireframe of an F-35 using any number of publicly available PC apps in no time.
    But, the F-35 is supposed to be today's foremost stealth and C&C platform.
    If the J-35 was coated with any late version RAM, its flight characteristics were anything close to the F-35, jet engine technology was anything close to the American engine, EW capabilities and virtual cockpit anything close... Those are the kinds of things what would undeniably indicate espionage. Unless the J-35 could be shown to fly anything close to how an F-35 flies, it's just a cheap, inferior copy without anything that distinguishes what the F-35 can do.

  • @icebearliu6403
    @icebearliu6403 2 роки тому +1

    On point of tanker, actually CN press already broadcast j-15 to j-15 air-refuling in 2021.

  • @zhangyi5145
    @zhangyi5145 2 роки тому +4

    Just fishing boat, a big mobile target on sea, nothing else. LOL

  • @naughtyfrog8257
    @naughtyfrog8257 2 роки тому +4

    again, fantasising that ASEAN is going to have “allegiance” to china or US. no, we have allegiance to our regional interest, and if you bother to read up on current affairs involving ASEAN, we have categorically stated that we will not choose a side between the US and China. our aim is to keep the trade routes open, and oppose any sanctions of shipping and trade unless there is UN resolution to that effect.

  • @xushenxin
    @xushenxin 2 роки тому +11

    5:30 you are wrong. 003 use steam turbine to drive propellers directly, using a shaft. There is no electric motor propulsion on 003, neither Ford class. You confused integrated electricity management system to full electric propulsion system.

    • @jwickerszh
      @jwickerszh 2 роки тому

      Unclear, see for example ua-cam.com/video/gM_hQLUO7rI/v-deo.html

  • @garydonnison3836
    @garydonnison3836 2 роки тому +1

    You provide great information in a professional way......i,ll subscribe

  • @Castragroup
    @Castragroup 2 роки тому +1

    Great video. Love the long format

  • @user-ok3eg3vs8s
    @user-ok3eg3vs8s 2 роки тому +3

    3:45,just a lttile thing to know,china actually divide three main shipbuilding bases, or shipbuilding clusters, because behind them are various supporting facilities and factories, among there are the oldest Dalian and Jiangnan shipyards, the Dalian Shipyard is in northern China, Liaoning state , That is the name of China's first aircraft carrier, Jiangnan Shipyard built the third aircraft carrier, which is the one in the video, it is near Shanghai, and the third shipbuilding base is located in Guangdong, near Hong Kong and Macau, they have The ability to produce 300,000 tons of large tankers, but currently only producing frigates and 50,000 tons of integrated supply ships for the navy , but if you konw , the home port of China's second aircraft carrier is deployed near Guangdong, which means that every times china want to maintenance the aircraft carrier, it has to go to Shanghai, which is 800 miles away, or even to Dalian across the entire Chinese sea area (before Jiangnan haven't have the ability of aircraft carrier maintenance), but cannot go to Guangdong, where there are conditions for maintenance

  • @douginorlando6260
    @douginorlando6260 2 роки тому +3

    The carrier should also be evaluated as a piece of the task force. Networked sensors and defense systems of the whole task force is what counts.

  • @Mongrel214
    @Mongrel214 2 роки тому +2

    What speakers are those?

  • @aaasss4077
    @aaasss4077 2 роки тому +1

    Going to make a great floating restaurant or target your choice.

  • @nfineon
    @nfineon 2 роки тому +3

    Who would win:
    1 multibillion dollar carrier + all its jets
    vs
    1 hypersonic radar evading fastboi (1/1000th cost)

  • @copetimusmaximus3363
    @copetimusmaximus3363 2 роки тому +8

    That bramos insert was a hint to the US fleet as well😂

  • @ericvantassell6809
    @ericvantassell6809 2 роки тому +4

    The future 007 carriers will be for covert ops

  • @thaedleinad
    @thaedleinad 2 роки тому +5

    J-35 seems way more suitable for a carrier version development than the dwarf-winged J-20.

    • @thaedleinad
      @thaedleinad 2 роки тому

      @@Amoore-vv9wx good thing.

  • @treky4life488
    @treky4life488 2 роки тому +2

    Too few subscribers for such good content.
    On par with Drachinifel. I'd like to see a collaboration someday.

  • @felixli5279
    @felixli5279 2 роки тому +4

    Just 1 part i strongly disagree with this UA-cam host:
    There's no way 10 U.S. carriers will ever battle directly against 10 PLANavy carriers(and vice versa) in any open ocean area as depicted hypothetically on his N.Pacific map near Japan shown at the beginning of this video.
    Typically during peacetime, at least 50% of the U.S. supercarrier fleet(excluding LHAs such as America) is docked at base for replenishment/crew rotation, regular maintenance or multi-year overhaul(i.e. RCOH) at any given day of a year. Logically, the same will also apply to the PLANavy carrier fleet. In fact, the average total sailing days at sea per year per ship across the 2 in-service PLANavy carriers is no more than 30~45days(much much lower than their U.S. counterparts).
    Realistically and even in an absolute emergency wartime situation, there'll be no more than 5-6 carriers per side available to do such concentrated sea battle in a 'blue water' environment.

  • @ropemaster5660
    @ropemaster5660 Рік тому

    You just gained a new subscriber 😉👍

  • @jk3jk35
    @jk3jk35 Рік тому

    I just wanted to say I love the robot voice character, it reminds me of another UA-camr Coffeezilla

  • @terryli3685
    @terryli3685 2 роки тому +9

    very educative video indeed. !!!

  • @jadenng1137
    @jadenng1137 2 роки тому +7

    Look forward to the 004 that is a huge weapon.

    • @Conan-ny1um
      @Conan-ny1um 2 роки тому +1

      004 and 005 have been canceled apparently China’s naval nuclear reactor technology is not advanced enough to support an aircraft carrier,

  • @geopoliticsjunkie4114
    @geopoliticsjunkie4114 2 роки тому +1

    Really great job M8

  • @edwinvermeulen8187
    @edwinvermeulen8187 2 роки тому

    With the new YU-20 refueller, the operational refuelling range of china will be just over 7800 km ( 4800 miles) With forward deploying carriers, this will for the time beeing be sufficient to support air operations in a defensive manner.
    Currently the chinese military seems to emphasis on restructuring, and modernization integrating both east and west technologies into a defensive long range doctrine. They have a good amount of air superiority and multirole aircraft, but lack some striking power. However The J-16D, J-20 and J-35 all seem to integrate in superior sensors / ewar and network integration.
    China seems to have a clear vision of how to incorporate its military, and implents not only its air but also navy and land into a unified doctrine, that is unlike the russian or us doctrines. Only in time we will see where it will lead to.

  • @erikdavidantonio5368
    @erikdavidantonio5368 2 роки тому +8

    And the coolest thing of all is that the Chinese came to "learn how to use a catobar aircraft carrier here in Brazil", along with the Brazilian Navy when we had the São Paulo aircraft carrier that was decommissioned today!

    • @thaedleinad
      @thaedleinad 2 роки тому

      That fucking São Paulo piece of crap, gigantic waste of resources to keep carrier doctrine alive in a country with no projection of power economic capabilities.

  • @craigkdillon
    @craigkdillon 2 роки тому +4

    Minor point -- The United States is a single country.
    So, you should use a singular verb - "The United States IS...",
    not, "The United States ARE....".
    Now, the United States was referred to in the plural prior to our Civil War.
    Our Civil War changed all that.
    Shelby Foote makes a point of that in his history of our Civil War.
    .

    • @jwickerszh
      @jwickerszh 2 роки тому

      Sounds gramatically wrong but one way around is to just call it the USA.

    • @craigkdillon
      @craigkdillon 2 роки тому +2

      @@jwickerszh It is not grammatically wrong. Unless you are British. They have odd ideas of what is correct grammar.
      For instance, they will say "a class are.." just because a class has multiple students, they will treat it as plural.
      How stupid is that??
      The Brits are smart in so many ways. But, they abuse their own language.
      We Americans do it right.

    • @Millennium7HistoryTech
      @Millennium7HistoryTech  2 роки тому

      I am not British nor from the USA (because even a Cuban, a Venezuelan or a Brazilian are American) so I mix British English and American English as I please.

    • @craigkdillon
      @craigkdillon 2 роки тому +1

      Nope. Only the USA has America in its name.
      So, we are the ONLY Americans. We have been called Americans for 250 years. Before any of those other nations even existed.
      So, get off your PC high horse.

    • @Millennium7HistoryTech
      @Millennium7HistoryTech  2 роки тому +3

      @@craigkdillon The first American colonies were Spanish, soon followed by the Dutch, the French, the Portuguese and the British, among the others. However, feel free to keep believing what makes you feel good. Have a good day.

  • @stoikiymuzhik_high-schoole1057
    @stoikiymuzhik_high-schoole1057 2 роки тому +1

    Just landed today on your channel interesting videos and presentation

  • @Gustav_Kuriga
    @Gustav_Kuriga 2 роки тому +1

    Loved this video. It's so rare nowadays for someone to talk about potential capabilities and strategy of the Chinese military without using loaded language or making baseless assumptions. You were careful to note when something wasn't certain, and or when opinion was divided.

  • @johnnyyu68927
    @johnnyyu68927 2 роки тому +11

    KJ-600~ the initial named of Kong Jing -600, Kong in Chinese character means Space, Sky, Celestial~ Jing in Chinese in character means Alarm, Alert, Warning, Prediction and Precaution~ The GJ-11 Drone, the initial named of Gong Ji-11 means Attack-11 unmanned attack aircraft~

  • @user-cf2oi8gx8e
    @user-cf2oi8gx8e 2 роки тому +8

    不用擔心,003號只是一艘大型捕魚船.

  • @Rospajother
    @Rospajother Рік тому

    I like the series formate, thanks

  • @rangerhawk
    @rangerhawk 2 роки тому

    It is floating, but still far from fully operational. Comparable to a Ford carrier in many ways, but more than 1/5th smaller. They can make all the clams they want, but they are still a whitewater Navy with severely limited range.

  • @GrendalTheBeasty
    @GrendalTheBeasty 2 роки тому +7

    I think it's funny that the Chinese plane that looks suspiciously like an F-35 is named J-35.

    • @92HazelMocha
      @92HazelMocha 2 роки тому

      It's less funny when you find out it's development was spurred by the PRC getting access to blueprints for the F35 via the DoD.

    • @copetimusmaximus3363
      @copetimusmaximus3363 2 роки тому +2

      It's like the Apple's rounded rectangle "patent"😂

    • @Peter-xu5to
      @Peter-xu5to 2 роки тому +7

      J35 is not an official name, it was created by some keyboard warrior, it is FC 31 (first appearance in 2014) carrier variant but not commission yet.

    • @GrendalTheBeasty
      @GrendalTheBeasty 2 роки тому

      @@Peter-xu5to That would make more sense.

    • @stupidburp
      @stupidburp 2 роки тому

      It is closer to X-2 Shin Shin

  • @lagrangewei
    @lagrangewei 2 роки тому +22

    ASEAN is pretty much friendly to China and suspicious of US after the Afghan failure. while Singapore continue to cooperate with US, this is mainly because China currently maintain a non-interventionist policy mean China would not protect Singapore. however Singapore as with other ASEAN member would likely switch side rapidly if China ever changes it policy and extend protection to the region. the threat China faces is further out, the US can very much put a carrier in the Indian ocean and cut China off. so China need carrier to counter such aggression.

    • @brucebaxter6923
      @brucebaxter6923 2 роки тому +1

      Ahh. Russians trying to split nato.
      Lol

    • @wolfgangjr74
      @wolfgangjr74 2 роки тому

      Except that Singapore isn't threatened by the USA. LOL. And its the Chinese stealing their fish stocks to say the least. China the real bully as always.

    • @abdhaiamrialias9794
      @abdhaiamrialias9794 2 роки тому +1

      Indian ocean also seems to be ok for China as they make very good relationship with Pakistan and recently try to cooperate with Afghanistan

    • @assertivekarma1909
      @assertivekarma1909 2 роки тому +5

      The animosity that many South East Asian countries have with China, and associated cooperation with the US, also has to do with obnoxious Chinese behavior & Chinese ambitions that are inherently in opposition to other regional nations. The US has been a good ally to those that have reasonable intentions.

    • @xiaogangdasha
      @xiaogangdasha 2 роки тому

      @@assertivekarma1909 lol South Korea and Japan largely made themselves, you aren't get no marshall plan if you look in the mirror. Be honest.

  • @joeAK7.62
    @joeAK7.62 2 роки тому +1

    they are also working on a refueling drone, heard it on other yt channels reporting about this!

  • @awandemmweli6331
    @awandemmweli6331 2 роки тому

    I'm glad I clicked on this video this is great

  • @tangshanboy5491
    @tangshanboy5491 2 роки тому +4

    I am a Chinese. Although Tangshan City, Hebei Province has more steel production than the whole United States, it is obviously foolish to waste so much steel to build such a mobile coffin. Just as we have hypersonic anti-ship ballistic missiles such as fd21, the Filipinos can also use the same missiles to sink our aircraft carrier. Although China has the strongest shipbuilding capacity in the world, they are all used to build merchant ships, Our aircraft carrier deck can only withstand Somali pirates for kilometers. It is like an iron shell with a pile of explosives and nuclear power. Although China is the world's leading civil nuclear power technology and has its own nuclear powered submarine, we are still afraid that the nuclear reactor will explode after being moved to the aircraft carrier, or stay in the shipyard like the Indian aircraft carrier. Our Fujian is just like a Ford class, His interior is still the structure of the old Russian navy. In fact, a large number of people in the design team of Fujian are the shape designers of China's fake automobile factory. They are just dolls used to scare Americans. Our electromagnetic catapults are still very backward. The reason why the picture is covered with a shed is not that the catapults need to be protected during the outfitting process of the aircraft carrier in the next two years, In addition, there is no catapult on our deck at all, but we believe that this flat deck is enough to scare away the enemy in appearance. China is always eager for success, and the new technology is always started in a hurry before testing to ensure stability. The Chinese military simply does not know that it is necessary to test the reliability of electromagnetic catapults on land before they can be moved to the ship. Just like the rockets and spacecraft made in China, they are very unreliable. If the failure rate of American electromagnetic catapults is so high, I think Chinese catapults will be even worse. In fact, more and more people in China are opposed to building aircraft carriers. China does not have more than 800 military bases all over the world. Chinese warships do not need global navigation at all. It is enough to hold the Bohai Bay. Otherwise, it will cause dissatisfaction and sanctions from Japan and South Korea. When it comes to carrier based aircraft, China is even more garbage. The radar technology on China's land can't be used in the air force and Navy at all. The most basic sea salt corrosion can't be resisted. China's material science is very backward. In order to prevent steel from collapsing after rusting, we have to constantly demolish old steel facilities and reinforced concrete buildings and build new ones. That's why our GDP is always growing, China's J20 stealth fighter is not stealth at all. Its design inspiration comes from Japan's Gundam. The new version of j35 stealth carrier based fighter has just come up with an idea. Now even the screws on the fighter must be purchased from Japan. It is ridiculous that most of China's more than 3500 aircrafts are just the performance of toy UAVs of Dajiang JDI brand. China can't even organize a decent aircraft carrier based aircraft squadron, Most Chinese pilots are acrobats. They can recover their cool heads faster when they are overloaded by G value, which makes our pilots more confident when facing Indian pilots. During the cold war between the United States and the Soviet Union, the United States was talking about the uselessness of popular science aircraft carriers. Our mainstream public opinion felt that the experience of Americans was selfless and precious. If the Soviet Union did not have to compete with the United States at that time, it would not end up in this miserable situation today. If some people in China's top echelons were not jealous of the United States and thought that Americans were lying about everything, we would not have built so many aircraft carriers, In fact, China's ocean is only 1/20 the size of the United States, so it is enough for China to have two aircraft carriers. The third one can be built purely because of American jealousy

  • @geeussery8849
    @geeussery8849 2 роки тому +4

    Not a copy, however it would be foolish to let research already conducted and gathered to go unused. imo

  • @jeffjr84
    @jeffjr84 2 роки тому

    They are covering the flight deck because that ship has Mag(netic) cat(apult)s.. there is also a reason the ford has 3 elevators.. the chinese will figure out why when they put the ship through seatrials with flight ops. At least 1 of fords elevators is close to the magazine. so they could 1 up 1 down and 1 ammo for hot swapping in a hurry (relatively) anyway.. unless they need all 3 for aircraft.. like a heli on one one up an one down. That means they could both launch firescout helicopter drones and cat planes off the flight deck at one time.. like a swarm..

  • @simulatedpilot3441
    @simulatedpilot3441 2 роки тому +1

    fun fact the JF-17 thunder in the Pakistani Air Force You can upload songs and play them

  • @directxxxx71
    @directxxxx71 2 роки тому +3

    I heard the following is the strategy that China is following currently to deter their rivals...
    " Rely not on the likelihood of the enemy’s not coming, but on our own readiness to receive him; not on the chance of his not attacking, but rather on the fact that we have made our position unassailable. "
    Sun Tzu

  • @arsenyjsharov2239
    @arsenyjsharov2239 2 роки тому +3

    Uh, that elephant at 35:57 scared me.

  • @douginorlando6260
    @douginorlando6260 2 роки тому +1

    I read something that implies this carrier uses superconducting motors. Over a decade ago, I heard about research on superconducting motors for subs (lots of Horse power per pound plus efficiency) so it is a possiblility

    • @trevorwoodley3897
      @trevorwoodley3897 2 роки тому +1

      China? I doubt that very much. They lie about everything.

    • @bighands69
      @bighands69 2 роки тому

      China cannot even make microchips so how is it going to be able to engineer supercapacitors at such scale to be used on a large aircraft carrier?

  • @joripiira
    @joripiira 2 роки тому +1

    Nice stereo setup, a video about them and your take on Hi-Fi would be nice.

  • @liammarra4003
    @liammarra4003 2 роки тому +7

    I'd say the goal will be 9-10 carriers. That will allow China to have 1 carrier out on deployment, 1 carrier in refit/maintenence, and 1 for training in all three "fleets". Having 10 would mean the ability to potentially have 2 carriers active at any given time-ideally.

    • @stupidburp
      @stupidburp 2 роки тому

      They only need 4 carriers to intercept and fight the likely combined US, Taiwanese, and Japanese fleets in the area at sny one time. Reinforcing fleets could arrive too late to prevent an invasion of Taiwan. Then the CCP uses compromised business allies to lean on US and Japanese politicians to stop fighting and return to trade relations. This could happen within 10 years.

    • @mayo250
      @mayo250 Рік тому

      The carriers will stay at 4 or 6, no more !

  • @ttomtkh
    @ttomtkh 2 роки тому +3

    having a boat is one thing operating it is another thing, the boat is as good as the people managing it, during peace chinese boar look grant but during war time things is very difference

    • @kentershackle1329
      @kentershackle1329 2 роки тому +3

      Well US Navy .. had many blunders recently isnt it?. Ramming Underwater mountains, slamming into Container ships.. surfacing on top of fishing vessels.
      US has Never been engage a near peer adversary.. so the maths kinda balanced.🤣

    • @ttomtkh
      @ttomtkh 2 роки тому

      @@kentershackle1329 there is only 2 country involve in carrier warfare, that the IJN and US, which other country do I miss?, pla navy they fire cum only

    • @tzeshenlim
      @tzeshenlim 2 роки тому

      @@kentershackle1329 😆plus much more coming soon🙃

    • @catrojana3694
      @catrojana3694 2 роки тому

      Boating under the influence is bad for you and others.

  • @Biden-Sniffed-Me-in-2016
    @Biden-Sniffed-Me-in-2016 Рік тому

    I like your art.

  • @terrorizer9972
    @terrorizer9972 2 роки тому +1

    -*15* social credit for exposing details About the 003

  • @mtuers
    @mtuers 2 роки тому +3

    Do you think we're at a point where 15 year plans, as far as huge equipment/technology investments is concerned, is silly? Pre-WWII, everyone was rushing to build as many big battleships as they could. We know how that ended up.

    • @outman6207
      @outman6207 2 роки тому

      to be honest, can you blame anyone here? Will USA let china grow? Then 15 billions of people have better lives and 300 millions americans have little bit worse lives, since resource conservation law. Those chinese wanna share the cheap gas, cheap products, good wellbeing. So USA will try everything to stop China from developing, but stay with sweat industries. Meanwhile, a civilization of 5k years of history wont stop from going back to its prime time. They both know opponent will choke each other to death, what do you expect.

    • @jcucfun
      @jcucfun 2 роки тому +1

      situation is different.nuke weapons make WWIII unaffordable

    • @elmohead
      @elmohead Рік тому

      Well, carriers are far from being obselete. An island you can steer around is kinda useful.

  • @realtorkevinfung
    @realtorkevinfung 2 роки тому +4

    25:35 I've heard experts say that the j15 out flankers the Russian Flankers. That it is a much improved version.

    • @kdrapertrucker
      @kdrapertrucker 2 роки тому +1

      No it isn't, the Chinese have never managed to build a decent turbofan engine, it requires exacting quality control to create components that can handle the environment of a high performance engine. Even Chinese media calls the J-15 "the flopping fish"

    • @SerbanOprescu
      @SerbanOprescu 2 роки тому

      Indeed, the Chinese stated more than once that their electronics are superior to the Russian ones. This was in relation to their fighter jet electronics, but also to their anti-missile defense system (a sort of Chinese S-400 system). This was claimed more loudly when Turkey issued a requirement for an advanced missile system to equip their Army. The claims, however, were never proven right by any measurable deployment, so it remains to be seen. The Turkey bid was eventually won by the Russians, and one single report, hidden in a sea of publications, stated afterwards that the Chinese system was in fact inefficient, despite its advanced electronics, which may possibly be attributed to the somewhat lesser experience with missiles in combat (compared for instance with the Russians, who had the entire set of Middle East wars to refine their results). As for the aircraft electronics, the silent implication was that they had derived a lot of experience from their intel "liberated" from the USA, which is quite a credible hypothesis, to which they added their own research. However, just as you said, "experts believe it" - it has yet to be proven in any measurable way.
      However, none of the claims were related to the engines, for instance, or the aerodynamic solutions, or anything other than the above.

    • @slau8495
      @slau8495 2 роки тому +1

      Not in its current form. The current J15 onboard PLAN16/17 are essentially Su33 airframes with J11B (AA fire control) +JH7 (AS fire control) avionics. They were obsolete already by the time they were placed on the flydecks. The PLAN flankers that suit your description would be J15T (catapult + 4.5gen avionics) and J15D (electronic warfare).

    • @user-wr8sm6jp6j
      @user-wr8sm6jp6j 2 роки тому +2

      @@kdrapertrucker ... Now all Chinese fighter jets use the WS10 series, which is the turbofan engine. China has not imported Russian engines for many years

    • @user-wr8sm6jp6j
      @user-wr8sm6jp6j 2 роки тому

      @@kdrapertrucker Chinese media called him a "flying shark, not a moving fish. Also, China's electronics and radars and air-to-air missiles are far stronger than Russia's.

  • @edisonone
    @edisonone 8 місяців тому

    .
    Never! Never! Never be sure if this is a chicken, a duck, or a baby Loch Ness Monster, until this strangest of egg had fully been hatched yet!!!’
    .

  • @HerfingPug
    @HerfingPug 2 роки тому

    A fantastic video, thank you so much. It is a shame UA-cam butchered it with inane advertisements.

  • @jessmarks2214
    @jessmarks2214 2 роки тому +33

    Unfortunately, the Western theorists assume the motivations, tasks and roles of the PLA are based on their own doctrinal understanding and prejudices.... old story.... same outcomes?

    • @jessmarks2214
      @jessmarks2214 2 роки тому

      @@io2068 ànd possibly just confirming the presumptions of Western Planners for strategic deception?

    • @russelfang7434
      @russelfang7434 2 роки тому +1

      China's new aircraft programme always runs parallel to its engine programme, which directly leads to engine problems on almost every new aircraft.

    • @92HazelMocha
      @92HazelMocha 2 роки тому +1

      @@russelfang7434 That's true of many aircraft development cycles though. The F35's engine is a mess and carriers have to be refit just to be able to launch them because the engine will tear up the ramp. It's also true of basically every US and Soviet 3rd generation fighter as well, it's only not common here anymore because we still run upgraded variants of early 4th gen engine designs. The PW220 for instance has been in service for almost 4 decades with no end in sight.

  • @Jon.A.Scholt
    @Jon.A.Scholt 2 роки тому +12

    I think we need to remember that having a few carriers and effectively carrying out carrier operations are two very different things. The US has been consistently perfecting carrier operations for over 75 years. China? They haven't even really started.

    • @tyrantfox7801
      @tyrantfox7801 2 роки тому +17

      Well , this is how you start.
      US navy didn't just came in to existence in a day.
      Food for thought

    • @vJaBoG32Laud
      @vJaBoG32Laud 2 роки тому +1

      @@tyrantfox7801 but hopefully not in my lifetime. So i spare that thought. US Navy maybe should not...

    • @stevealvarado4627
      @stevealvarado4627 2 роки тому +5

      The test will come when they have an incident on the deck like those that occurred during the Vietnam War. Will they be able to contain the fire or not?

    • @AICW
      @AICW 2 роки тому

      Those 75 years of experience are pretty much worthless when the Navy is more concerned about how their sailors use pronouns when talking to each other. Demonic monstrous beasts are what the Navy leadership is right now.

  • @neeldesai1927
    @neeldesai1927 2 роки тому +1

    Maybe I'll wait for 20 years to come and comment here...

  • @BennysThoughts
    @BennysThoughts 2 роки тому +1

    If I was China, I'd equip all my aircraft carriers to be used as cargo ships and I'd just send them all across the globe letting my competitors be bothered that I have all these ships that can be repurposed.

  • @jefvan536
    @jefvan536 2 роки тому +3

    how did you know for sure...im 100%sure the 003 carrier is very good because they late in building and has the latest tech instal in it

  • @RT-mm8rq
    @RT-mm8rq 2 роки тому +11

    Then suddenly in the middle of the battle both sides aircraft carriers are severely damaged by those sneaky submarines.

    • @stupidburp
      @stupidburp 2 роки тому

      This would be a strategic win for the PLA Navy. The goal is likely to stop a US carrier battle group. If that is accomplished, even at the cost of their own carrier group, then it enables them to complete their other objectives. Invading Taiwan for example. The CCP doesn’t mind losing sailors and is happy to trade ships 1 for 1 with the US Navy. They can make more.

    • @RT-mm8rq
      @RT-mm8rq 2 роки тому

      @@stupidburp
      While threats from the air or surface fleet are not to be taken lightly it is my personal belief that the threat from submarines poses the greatest danger to a carrier.
      It is not inconceivable that a modern day " wolf pack " could overwhelm a carrier battle groups defense allowing at least one submarine to make a hit on the largest target in a fleet.
      If an attacking submarine group were to cordinat the attack with both surface and air assets I believe there's s better than a average chance of at least one hit on an aircraft carrier. You don't need to sink it to take it out of the fight.

    • @zchen27
      @zchen27 2 роки тому

      Honestly that is probably the biggest threat to a carrier battlegroup aside from probably in a few years time when everyone just ripple fire dozens of boost-glide vehicles at each other.

    • @RT-mm8rq
      @RT-mm8rq 2 роки тому

      @@zchen27
      Stealth drones or small commercial drones could easily cripple an aircraft carrier.

    • @kentershackle1329
      @kentershackle1329 2 роки тому

      @@RT-mm8rq
      South China Seas depth kinda shallow. U can actually estimate where those deep Nuke Subs gonna patrol.
      And in Shallow waters the advantage of Nuke Powered (speed) kinda negated.

  • @Kevlar67476
    @Kevlar67476 2 роки тому +1

    Chinesium Muffler Clamp.
    Get one now!

  • @enduser8410
    @enduser8410 2 роки тому +1

    I was thinking the J-35 had a striking resemblance to the F-22 and not the F-35.

  • @112313
    @112313 2 роки тому +4

    J35 looked like that because of the stealth algorithm dictates this is currently the best shape for stealth.

    • @trevorwoodley3897
      @trevorwoodley3897 2 роки тому

      I read somewhere that stealth physics equations were first presented by a Russian scientist back in 50s or 60s. They were shelved because the Soviets didn't have the industrial and precision machining capacity to build it. Amazingly, the papers were not classified.

    • @112313
      @112313 2 роки тому

      @@trevorwoodley3897 that's because it's not actually about stealth. The paper deals with em wave interactions with edge objects iirc.

  • @fredhal8681
    @fredhal8681 2 роки тому +7

    lol the Indian BJP IT Cell trolls are already on the comments... India's superweapon - internet comment making.

  • @joeAK7.62
    @joeAK7.62 2 роки тому

    other experts said that j20 naval variant will not happen, it will be j31 variant called j35.

  • @spazmonkey3815
    @spazmonkey3815 2 роки тому

    Very,Very good...Thank you!

  • @R.-.
    @R.-. 2 роки тому +5

    28:50 Q: Are these J15 weight limits based on the aircraft only usng the foreedeck of the carrier? Would it significantly improve the takeoff speed and weight if the aircraft are launched from further back on the deck, so why don't they do this?

    • @zitang5536
      @zitang5536 2 роки тому +3

      The major reason is that the aircraft flight deck is already designed to divide into different areas and each area has different functions in the same time in combat. If a plane is taking off inside a wrong area during war, it will cause a chain disaster for the rest whole deck and planes. Secondly is Chinese navy is still learning and using old soviet navy aircraft carrier operation procedure which isn't flexible enough for your ideas.

    • @zitang5536
      @zitang5536 2 роки тому +2

      For example, in a perfect world, a plane is taking off inside a landing zone. While a plane will shortly land in this area after the first plane took off. But what if the taking off delayed or aborted for some reason? The landing plane must reclimb and wait at the last landing sequence because there are squads of planes on the landing route to land for refueling, rearming. What if the landing plane doesn't have enough fuel for the second attempt to go around? Everything is in trouble and lots of risk is caused because of a small delay.

    • @R.-.
      @R.-. 2 роки тому

      If they converted to a layout with longer runways the planes would take off with more fuel giving them more time in the air before they need to land. Then you can plan longer periods between switching takeooff and landing operations.
      If you operate carriers in pairs, then the switchover can be synchronised so one is landing while the other is taking off. In an emergency, a plane can land on the other carrier.

    • @zitang5536
      @zitang5536 2 роки тому

      @@R.-. Just check the HMS Queen Elizabeth. Which combined the rolling area and landing area. Its designed sortie generation rate only maxed out at 110 per day. (which I believe never achieved by HMS)

    • @commie5211
      @commie5211 2 роки тому +2

      They are training aircrafts, the goal is to have the navy familiar with operation. find weak spot they can improve for the next gen. the First version of J 15 were produced within a year. they did not even bother to put a decent radar on it.

  • @r200ti
    @r200ti 2 роки тому +2

    I have no idea what im talking about - but im guessing china dont plan on taking the US navy on head to head with a Carrier battle. I dont think anyone is under any illusion the US would make short work of them. And there is no point having 10 carriers patrolling there coastline unless they are willing to take on the US. Personally I think this must be a 40year plan for China, they need experience, numbers and much better equipment. Unless there new missiles really can keep the US carriers from getting much further than Hawaii!

    • @dabo5078
      @dabo5078 2 роки тому

      10 carrier battle groups can actualy prevent the US from reaching Hawaii if they are allowed to rampage in the western pacific.

    • @minus21334
      @minus21334 2 роки тому

      laugh in taliban. the US navy with all its navy might not even dare to touch the PLAN that's been building islands in south china sea.

    • @joelberangben8789
      @joelberangben8789 2 роки тому

      Agreed, even if China has mo battle ship. One thing they luck is experience. Try to imagine if a teen age wants to fight a 20 to 30 yrs old? What do you think will happen?? Who knows if China can operate those ship in a wor with the USA ,when the USA has been there roaming around the globe with their very powerful Carriers

    • @stupidburp
      @stupidburp 2 роки тому

      There is no reason to build so many large carriers unless they are planning to attack the US Navy head on. They are building them though. Thus they plan to fight the USN.

  • @SpeedfreakUK
    @SpeedfreakUK 2 роки тому +2

    “The Chinese always make long term plans”
    They reeeeeaaaaaallllly don’t.

    • @f9658
      @f9658 2 роки тому

      ?

    • @SpeedfreakUK
      @SpeedfreakUK 2 роки тому

      @Ash bringer If the leader of your country has created such a cult of personality that no one can deliver any bad news, you are not thinking long-term. Just because the naked emperor has grandiose ideas of long-term strategy, it doesn't mean he's actually thinking long-term.
      Pro-tip: authoritarianism is not an effective long-term strategy, it never has been. It's inherently unstable and inefficient. Evil is inherently incompetent. If you want to see some real long-term thinking look at the the people over the ages who carefully sculpted democracy.

  • @dsdy1205
    @dsdy1205 2 роки тому

    10:58 As someone living in the map you brought up, this has been... an interesting video

  • @abdhaiamrialias9794
    @abdhaiamrialias9794 2 роки тому +6

    That's why China has good relationship with Myanmar and Indonesia with support of Laos

    • @lagrangewei
      @lagrangewei 2 роки тому

      It was a mistake that US choose Australia over Indonesia.

    • @abdhaiamrialias9794
      @abdhaiamrialias9794 2 роки тому +5

      @@lagrangewei Australia is a ext nations of UK and they form a force consists of US,UK,Canada,Australia and France long time ago.

    • @assertivekarma1909
      @assertivekarma1909 2 роки тому +5

      @Muhammad Syahidin So were you complaining when the US was trying to fix the dysfunction of Afghanistan, or just when they decided to pull out? Propaganda infused haters won't be happy regardless. Trade deals aren't a right, they need to be adjusted with time. What negative has the US done to Indonesia, where has it contributed to humanitarian issues & a global framework that supports economic growth in your region. I can guarantee Americans have had more of a positive impact. If you aren't Han, China will want domination over you & you risk "re-education" along with the Uyghurs.

    • @zetareticulan321
      @zetareticulan321 2 роки тому

      @Assertive Karma
      m.ua-cam.com/video/qZkxaEC1xjY/v-deo.html

    • @Ameer-is3dh
      @Ameer-is3dh 2 роки тому +1

      @Muhammad Syahidin Lol...you are muslim right ??

  • @janibeg3247
    @janibeg3247 2 роки тому +3

    The Chinese probably "borrowed" blueprints and specs from American carriers.

    • @davidtangitau3771
      @davidtangitau3771 2 роки тому

      They been stealing technology from everyone for decades. Just ask the Russians 😂

    • @benny19646
      @benny19646 2 роки тому +2

      Bro💀💀 use your head if it that easy to get blur prints of your carriers.

    • @davidtangitau3771
      @davidtangitau3771 2 роки тому

      @@benny19646 Maybe not the full blueprints, but parts of them yes. Why do you think there is a J-35 and J-16.?

    • @user-wr8sm6jp6j
      @user-wr8sm6jp6j 2 роки тому

      @@davidtangitau3771 What is the relationship between J35 and J16 America? Especially J16. You mean the Pentagon is all infiltrated by China? FBI is not working?

    • @user-wr8sm6jp6j
      @user-wr8sm6jp6j 2 роки тому

      Stop dreaming, China's electromagnetic catapult technology is medium-voltage direct current, while the United States is medium-voltage alternating current, neither is a technical path. And medium voltage DC is better than the latter. Do you think a person who uses 4G will use 3G?

  • @siquq
    @siquq 2 роки тому +1

    good report

  • @orlock20
    @orlock20 2 роки тому +1

    I want to see the Chinese compromise. The cost to just run one U.S. aircraft carrier for a year can buy 3 LCSs. A U.S. strike group costs $6.5 million per day in peace time. The Chinese aren't going to compete with that so compromises will have to be made.