Should be mentioned that early JAST/JSF/F-35 concepts also featured canards. Like the J-20, the canards were positioned in plane with the aircraft's wing (to conform with stealth plan form alignment), as opposed to the 4th gen's (Rafale, Gripen, Eurofighter, Lavi, J-10) having canards out of plane, above the wing. This provides better stealth characteristics while sacrificing some aerodynamic performance. The Americans eventually dropped the JSF canards partly due to carrier landing characteristics, and some speculate that F-16 chief designer Harry Hillaker, who consulted on the JSF in his retirement, had a say in the matter. He was never in favor of canards and is quoted as saying something to the effect of: 'The optimum position for canards is on somebody else's aircraft.'
@@wageslave387 "Are Harry's opinions still relevant in this day and age though...?" Possibly. Note that almost all new stealth fighter designs feature a traditional aft tail design: The Russians (SU-57), Turks (TF-X), British (Tempest), French/German (FCAS), South Koreans (KF-21), Indians (AMCA) and Chinese J-31. And of course the F-22 and F-35. Though Hillaker was perhaps more concerned with aerodynamics than stealth. Right before Hillaker passed away, I was granted an unique interview to hopefully answer some of these questions. But that unfortunately didn't happen.
Haven't the Isralis used canards on their aircraft? They have access to all American intel/tech as well as their own. If they're using it that means there's a good reason to do so.
0:00 Introduction 0:38 OTIS hacking a private message 1:15 Some background knowledge 2:32 Configuration 4:44 Structure & Stealth 7:46 Propulsion 8:36 Performance 9:21 Systems 11:56 Armaments 15:00 Stealth, yes stealth again 16:44 Stealth geometry comparison started 30:27 Closure and cool aircraft model *4:08 small correction from me, J-20 still 1.1m longer than Su-57.
@@markwilliamwitty9532 NO! OTIS is a fictional character built with few cinema effects and speech synthesis. It is not a technology. I am not related to any marketing app. Now that you made me say this, I bet some viewers will be very disappointed... OTIS receives its own mail! 😆
I love seeing videos like this Millenium, they really do engage the engineering mind. Sometimes the haters will come and constantly spout their political garbage, and it should be more about the fighter aircraft. May China be successful in their future endeavors.
@@williamtell1477 No fake account here. Just someone that enjoys Millenium's impartial videos on Russian and Chinese aircraft, and see the good that China does. Just go on their IG and you get to see that they provide all sorts of infrastructure to Portugal, Norway, Croatia, Thailand, Laos etc. Stay educated. 👍👍👍
Nice video as always. I always thought canards would hurt the design more, however you showed how it is mitigated. There is a site that says that they believe that stealth number for F-35 is only good from the front from any other view it is average at best. I guess deciding factor would be as you said the quality of stealth coating. Still waiting on that video about truth vs reality in Russian technology and how far behind they truly are. Keep up great work.
@@frankcrawford416 The direct side profile of most stealth designs is quite bad (barring the B-2 and F-117). It's not considered to be an issue because unless the aircraft is orbiting around you, it won't provide that profile for very long. Moving in a straight line, a plane will only show its direct side for a second.
No one's calling J-10 an interceptor. Chinese fighters tend to be more elongated, due to relatively weaker engines. J-20 appears longer than it is because of the small vertical stabilizers, like the video says.
@@byhyew The J-20 is Mach 2, while the F-22 is Mach 1.6. In addition, the J-20 has produced a two seater aircraft. Its positioning is very clear, and it can be used as an air command platform to cooperate with UAV attacks. If the stealth machine is found, it will lose its advantage, and it does not need to engage in close combat
One thing i noticed early in the video, in a sequence of shots of the plane on runways, between about 1:54 and 2:07 time stamps, there's a tawny colored patch of color under most of the planes. This appears to be a pretty strong reflection of the dried grass off to the sides of the runway. Maybe nothing, maybe unfinished prototypes with just bare metal, but it seemed an unusual optical reflectivity of ambient light for any 'stealth' craft, like they could wind up visually appearing as a very bright spot in the sky. Not fully understanding here, just a bit of a 'hm'.
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I saw a lot of materials from the Chinese Internet here, and I even subscribe to the authors of some materials for a long time.The author of the video of the J20 under the rising sun at the beginning of the video is "Baisuishan is not sweet pro", he is a member of the Chinese Air Force
@@blazinchalice If the US continues their unhealthy foreign policy of harassing China and trying to upkeep their world domination, I am sure these beauties will be the last things US military will see in their skies.
@UCFcJNearxPbBI6zLydqm9Sg This racism and hate towards an ethnic group is exactly why Ukraine is having this conflict. Keep it up and you will end up living in shantytown somewhere on the outskirts of Warsaw.
I just now watched a new 3 minute CCTV military recruitment video. The J20 made a 720 degree roll in about 1.5 seconds. The weird thing was during the roll the nose scribed a conical circle about +/- 10 degrees. Also during the roll, it looks like the angle of attack is increased by about 10 degrees (which would increase drag). Instead of a pure roll, it looked like it was corkscrewing. Why would the J20 aerodynamics do this if the intent was a high speed roll? Is Yaw performance involved? Is lift on the right side kicking in faster than the reduction in lift on the left side kicks in for some aerodynamic reason? You would think with 2 canards in the front and control surfaces on both wings in the back, they could keep the nose direction constant throughout the roll. This could be problematic if chasing another fighter aircraft (losing energy when keeping wings parallel to the wings of the fighter in the front quadrant, plus a tendency to change direction in a curved arc to the desired ADI vector instead of a linearly changing direction). Is this some kind of maneuver to slow the air speed because J20 has no speed brake? Last thing about it is … if the J20 is already pulling so many Gs it’s on the edge of departure, then performs this kind of high speed roll which creates more lift on one wing, then that wing may be prone to go turbulent and lose lift altogether … that would either reverse the roll or go into a spin or uncontrolled tumble. This is just my educated guess from observing the CCTV video. I still expect China to use the J20 for high speed sneak ambush missile shots from a distance at enemy fighters focusing their attention on close air combat with J10s and Flankers.
The fact that the chinese even decided to put a canard on a stealth aircraft means that they probably got the control system down to a notch. as computing capabilities were what limited the use of canards on earlier aircrafts.
Interesting observation. The Eurofighter also seems to 'corkscrew' when it rolls. Quite unlike the Rafale, which by contrast keeps its nose pointing precisely straight ahead.
When I LoOk at the F & then the J I see two completely different aircraft and while there may be similarities & claims to this OR that, I see a grape compared to a raisin, aircraft with different missions and objectives. 🤔
I expect China to use j20 as ambush not just for high value air targets but also to participate in combined air combat at a distance, sneaking in some unexpected missiles from a distance while the enemy’s focus is on flankers and j10s which do all the close air combat. And I expect it to carry a couple large antiship missiles (as large as can fit inside the weapons bay). Regarding torsion, I expect the Canards to work in conjunction with other control surfaces to minimize torsion forces on the fuselage
Gus ... you out did yourself here. Thank you ps, holy crap!! your english improved more than people who've lived in the US for 10 years in just the last 3 years of just making videos!!! I started trying to learn the Russian alphabet / reading .... v. hard! lol.
The radar installed on the J-20 is almost definitely not KLJ-7A, since that is a relatively small radar mounted on JF-17 Block 3s and it doesn’t make sense for it to be mounted inside the large radome of the J-20. And it is most likely not Type 1475 radar either as that should be the radar of the J-16. Nobody actually knows what radar is mounted on the J-20. And the IRST system is also not the first one mentioned in the video, since it is not developed by a state institute like the optical institute in Luoyang known for producing optics for chinese fighters.
Thanks for another great aeronautical engineering analysis of the J-20. Have you ever auditioned for a Bond film? I would love to see you as Bond's ally in Russia or Ukraine. You would be great.
I'm VERY curious as to the J-20's actual combat readiness percentage is! F--22 has, if I remember right, a 69% combat readiness. So out of 174 F-22's only 120 will be available at any given time. So if J-20 has that abysmally low percentage, which it likely doesn't, only 103 would be available. Close enough of a number to go to war with. Especially since J-20 production is in full swing and F-22 isn't ever going to be reproduced again..
F-22 has been in service since 2005 with 180+ built when production ended in the 90's, J-20 in 2015 and yet on around 50 have been built. And the F-22's replacement is now in the works. Yes, another Raptor will never be built - a more advanced one will be built in its place.
@@fredmdbud No. China has between 120-150 or so. They are scheduled to have around 200 by years end. They are SPECIFICALLY built for air superiority over the F-22. They are no joke. They are being integrated very fast and training is too notch, easily matching the wests training standards.
@@fredmdbud 150+ so far, and that’s actually counted airframes, no one knows how many more for certain. They are also producing them at a current rate of 24-30 a year and that’s before they get their WS-15 engine which is when production is expected to ramp up to full capacity.
@Ram123 "So if J-20 has that abysmally low percentage, which it likely doesn't" Curious. Is it really realistic to think the Chinese don't face the same challenges as any other air force when introducing a new fighter? Especially their first real stealth fighter?
And Tankers.... Without tankers the Air Force is practically handicapped in the Pacific without extreme forward basing in Southern Japan, Taiwan, and Northern Vietnam. Even the US Navy will have big problems operating aircraft within good striking range of mainland China.
Nope. That was the initial guess and yes it will eventually have a missile (PL-17/21 depending on who you ask) that’s ultra long range and designed to take out large non manoeuvrable targets at 400km, however the standard medium/long ranged missile, the PL-15 is a Meteor class missile used for standard air superiority missions. Yes it’s preference will be to kill at range vs in a furball but that’s modern fighter doctrine anyways. If you’re dogfighting you fucked up.. and that’s in any modern aircraft.
@@freefall0483 They are building them in large numbers as their primary air dominance fighter. It’s their equivalent of the F-22 and there’s already a decent chance that they have built more of them than the American jet (150+ so far airframes with production ramping up). If you’re saying that the PLAAF is going to use it as a modern day F-14 (it’s Phoenix missiles were designed to do just that) then why build them in such numbers? Why make their primary weapon system the PL-15, a Meteor/advanced AMRAAM class weapon? Why is the only plane the PL-21 been seen so far tested on the J-16? Accepting what you say means that the Chinese have not only decided to massively over supply their forces with a niche weapon system, that they also have decided that they have no need for a modern 5th Gen air superiority fighter even though they obviously have the capability of doing so? It makes zero sense doctrinally for the Chinese to build so many if that was its sole mission while at the same time neglecting to build a much needed air superiority fighter. It makes even less sense if they did do that, for its weapons bay to be designed to fit 4 air superiority class missiles. The PL-21 is huge, a J-16D will likely be able to carry two externally. You’re wasting a stealth design if the primary weapon needed for its mission can only be carried externally, therefore mitigating any stealth the aircraft has. With a range of 400km the missile doesn’t need a stealth aircraft to carry it to begin, it will likely launch outside the detection range of any aircraft or at least under heavy jamming support against targets like AWACS. It literally makes no sense.
I wonder if it could be something mundane like having to keep the wing length down to a certain maximum so it fits in standard hangers or even the carbon fibre mould.
Hey man, maybe you need to update your policy of "no India-Pakistani stuffs" to "No China-Pakistani-India stuffs". Every time I saw your videos about Chinese stuffs, the comments section just go full carcinogens. I get that it brings a lot of traffics, but at least moderate or close the comments section off. I'm not here to argue, maybe I'm too much of a snowflakes in this community, but I just wanna say something about it, cheers.
When it is China, it is mostly Americans dismissing what China does. When it is India/Pakistan, we go from the ridicule to the profanities to the death threats. You don't see all of those because YT AI is smart enough to block the worst comments, and I always have to delete hundreds of them, and there is no bulk delete.
@@Millennium7HistoryTech I know you're doing your best and meant well, but seriously, it's Americans AND Indians dismissing what China does & both of them are capable to be quiet toxic. There are "stealing", "copy-paste", even "Uyghur" comments. With comments as spicy as that, I wonder when "Last Chang" & "Pub Conrad" would visit & spam this channel too. Ok, this is a bit of a rant & I'm gonna stop here. Keep the good work
@@akirasean4080 bru how thin is your skin and you are totally a snowflake go look at any video this guy has made about the f35 you Chinese do the exact same
When you were talking About bystatic radars, would it be possible to use radars on multiple aircraft that point on 1 point but are not near each other to collect radar reflections deflected by stealth by different aircraft which would be connected by datalink to reduce enemy stealth capability
What I personally do not like, the side bays housing the (HOB?) Fox2 are obscured from the canards. Meaning in a dogfight the missile seeker can not "look up" because the canards are in the way. Thus for such situations launch parameters have to be gathered another way or the Fox2 can't be launched "up".
Great video mate. I always look forward to each new one. I have a question... I live in North Queensland Australia. Recently a squadron of F35s based here- About 5km away from.my house. I love watching them even though they are bloody noisy. My question is, when they are on final approach, they ALWAYS maintain a bank angle of around 45 degrees until they are within a few seconds of touching down. They only level out and flare at the very last moment. Is this the standard way to land an F35? Thank you again for your great work.
@@Millennium7HistoryTech thanks for answering. No, this city is very flat- Townsville Queensland. It has always been a big Army and Airforce centre, in fact, my father was based here during WW2. It appeared strange the first time I watched the F35s on approach. I can watch it all from my sun deck. It is a busy commercial airport and I watch planes take off and land from 6.00am each day. The F35s tend to come in high and fast and they turn onto final quite late when compared to domestic aircraft. It may be a noise reduction thing? The bank angle must obviously increase the sink rate reducing the amount of city they overfly. Whatever the reason, it is spectacular to watch. Thank you again for responding.
here's an idea for a future video i always wondered why even for modern planes they choose hydraulics over electric actuators. from what i've read, in WW2 part of the Focke Wulf 190's success in combat was based on the fact that it used small electric motors to move the control surfaces which allowed it to shave off weight and maintain control in speeds where other planes could not because of the air pressure. the air pressure at high speeds wouldn't allow the wire or hydraulic system to deflect the control surfaces and the pilot would lose control but the electric motors of the 190 could overcome it. sure, hydraulics have come a long way since then but so did electronics and electric equipment is lighter than a system of tubes and pumps filled with liquid. so why are they still choosing hydraulics over electrical?
All modern earth moving equipment (bulldozers, excavators, etc.) use hydraulics. Hydraulics are definitely strong enough to move a control surface on a plane. While I think electric motors are lighter and simplify maintenance, they are not EMP resilient like hydraulics.
The F-35 uses curve-form stealth, modelled by supercomputer, to inherently scatter radiation n probably has better internal arrangements. I'm willing to bet it's highly integrated situational awareness leaves the J-20 standing, too.
@@jeroboam4486 800 defects over a development cycle of decades. Most have been fixed or are currently being addressed. For example.. the oxygen feed to the pilot causing blackouts; ejector seat lacking sufficient boost. That said, is there an aircraft out there that hasn't suffered a variety of issues over development n acquisition? The Tomcat, F/A-18.. even the fantastic Eagle. The F-35 is transformative - I expect it to present a myriad of issues, some of which will never be fixed. The J-16... Can barely get off the deck with ordnance, so has to be immediately re-fuelled upon take-off.. to fix that: build a new ship or develop a whole new engine. Neither is a quick fix.
@@jarvismckenzie776 I mean it still had alot of defects for a so called fully devoloped fighter . Guess now I know why China and Russia are taking it slow .
@@sharequsman596 imagine though... Problem with a naval aircraft; no worries just spend a clear 10 billion replacing the runway! The problem is more to do with the engines - couldn't retrofit or produce indigenous engines powerful enough to get itself off the deck with significant payload.
Tempest prototype not exist. They still changing their airframe design, the same also applied with AMCA. Idk what needed to review from KF-21, he done it already
Does otis even need to hack Chinese servers? Could probably just start dissing the plane on some game forums... and wait for the specs to be uploaded, to prove you wrong...
It uses engines made in russia and is entirely secondhand blueprint f35 data. Not including the actual electronics and systems that are likely not on par or same capability.
excellent analysis very detailed... thanks for such a good and thorough analysis in the meantime, the chinese have produced a new engine of their own, similar to the one in the f35
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I do have a doubt. The Su 57 has small vertical tails compared to the F 22 becoz its an all moving tail plane, which in fact gives more vertical plane surface compared to the F22. The J 20 also uses the similar all moving tail plane, hence having it smaller, but then y would it need the bottom 2 vertical plane? is the 2 top all moving vertical plane not enough surface?
Operation 📎 Re: J-20 It’s a no-brainer here guys… The J-20’s *CONCEIVED HOT SPOTS*: *= the F-111 Aardvark’s of the Vietnam War…* Strike a cord here, guys? Similar to the B-58 of the 50’s and the F-111 of the 70’s, the J-20’s configuration was not meant as an air superiority specimen as per that of the F-22. With a coat of cloaking substrates, that job goes to the J-10, J-11, and J-16’s and maybe, just maybe - it also rests on the J-31’s which I bet they secretively fly *in squadron numbers* cuz of the sensitive natures of it... East Asians *don’t let good money go to waste*. Though they are secretive about their R&D’s as the Americans are about theirs, they have to be running these initial (Block 1’s or J-31’s) in squadron numbers in order to know it’s in’s and outs of it and in order for them to fiddle with it to advance it to the (Block II or the J-35 designation) and… If history if replication is any indication, a J-35 (C) or a VSTOL version of it is at the works given all of the 075 and 076 assault ships they are building so mark my word on this one. My two cents only so don’t hold me to this. .
that was not j20..that was protatype of the i belive its call j35 now day....they aredy been tasted it for year now...ouh the first picture i mean that has yellow colour....and i wana point somting that you got wrong...the j20 very high manuver in air..i got the link to show how the j20 manuver in air
Have we ever seen it launch a missile from the internal bay? Still lots of speculation on if the latest missiles can even fit or the internal bay is fully operational
One more observation of the J20. Looking at the large open weapon bay doors, the inside has an extremely anti-aerodynamic surface exposed to the wind stream. The doors may be inoperable at supersonic speed. This would be a huge limitation in firing PL15 missiles. If this is true, then it would affect tactics and performance. For example, when closing at supersonic speed, the J20 closing fast while hiding below the horizon or at least hiding in the ground clutter, would aggressively climb immediately before launching PL15s. The high altitude climb makes the J20 more detectable but drops air speed and air density to tolerable levels for the weapon bay door. Also the high altitude PL15 launch extends the missile envelope, but also increases the chance of being detected either through radar due to the open weapon bay door, and detected in IR due to the launch flair. Looking close at the J20 weapon bay, each side holding two PL15 missiles could hold one large non cylindrical missile with fives times the cross section area. This implies China may develop Anti ship missiles fitting inside the J20, each weighing about 1000 Kg.
That was entirely pilot error while landing on a carrier, get your facts right first. The J-20 can't land on a carrier, its very much an all show no capability aircraft.
Why the unnecessary, annoying and distracting music over voice? You don't need it,fit spoils the video. Why not have the sounds of the planes instead of wholly inappropriate music? It's unwatchable. I'm off.
@@Millennium7HistoryTech I appreciate your reply. I do want to watch your content but the music makes it difficult to concentrate on what you are saying.
Good reveal. All things considered, the J-20 looks pretty stealthy. I'm betting the price tag is considerably less than the F-35. As for reliability and mission-readiness compared to the F-35? That's not a high bar to cross.
However, the truth is that RAM is the thing that takes the most part in stealth. And you can literally find RCS simulation of both planes with metal surface constructions online.😓
@@evilchaperone Never heard of the Socratic Method, huh? I would suggest you request a tuition refund from your higher education provider but I think it's unlikely that you actually undertook high education.
Junk20 the best sky falling craft there is dum dum duudumm dum dum duudumm Lets go Junk20 lets go lets go junk20 lets go dont fall from the sky junk20 dont dont dum dum duudumm dum dum duudumm
Europe never could... some countries in Europe could. The main problem is that the Europe countries just aren't willing to pay the money to develop stuff. And then you have stuff like the euro hawk...
Should be mentioned that early JAST/JSF/F-35 concepts also featured canards. Like the J-20, the canards were positioned in plane with the aircraft's wing (to conform with stealth plan form alignment), as opposed to the 4th gen's (Rafale, Gripen, Eurofighter, Lavi, J-10) having canards out of plane, above the wing. This provides better stealth characteristics while sacrificing some aerodynamic performance. The Americans eventually dropped the JSF canards partly due to carrier landing characteristics, and some speculate that F-16 chief designer Harry Hillaker, who consulted on the JSF in his retirement, had a say in the matter. He was never in favor of canards and is quoted as saying something to the effect of: 'The optimum position for canards is on somebody else's aircraft.'
Are Harry's opinions still relevant in this day and age though...?
J-20 canards are there out of neccessity...Wing position aft dictates this!
@@wageslave387 "Are Harry's opinions still relevant in this day and age though...?"
Possibly. Note that almost all new stealth fighter designs feature a traditional aft tail design: The Russians (SU-57), Turks (TF-X), British (Tempest), French/German (FCAS), South Koreans (KF-21), Indians (AMCA) and Chinese J-31. And of course the F-22 and F-35. Though Hillaker was perhaps more concerned with aerodynamics than stealth. Right before Hillaker passed away, I was granted an unique interview to hopefully answer some of these questions. But that unfortunately didn't happen.
不可以去看看前几天央视对歼20副总设计师的采访，他说明的鸭翼的优越性，并且有用很好的隐身能力👀
Haven't the Isralis used canards on their aircraft? They have access to all American intel/tech as well as their own. If they're using it that means there's a good reason to do so.
0:00 Introduction
0:38 OTIS hacking a private message
1:15 Some background knowledge
2:32 Configuration
4:44 Structure & Stealth
7:46 Propulsion
8:36 Performance
9:21 Systems
11:56 Armaments
15:00 Stealth, yes stealth again
16:44 Stealth geometry comparison started
30:27 Closure and cool aircraft model
*4:08 small correction from me, J-20 still 1.1m longer than Su-57.
And the elephant screamer at 6:46.
Thank you for doing this! You are an absolute star!
@@markwilliamwitty9532 NO! OTIS is a fictional character built with few cinema effects and speech synthesis. It is not a technology. I am not related to any marketing app.
Now that you made me say this, I bet some viewers will be very disappointed... OTIS receives its own mail! 😆
@@Millennium7HistoryTech
Do you believe the specs that say it climbs 59,000 feet PER MINUTE ?
@@Millennium7HistoryTech where Can i buy an OTIS? 😂
J-20 reminds me of those sci-fi movies where the first half seperates from the main body and becomes a smaller jet.
I actually see it imagine if it could do that 😂 would be a wild surprise
Boys…
cmon china, please i want to see this
Like the ADF-11 from Ace Combat 7? 😂
ADF-11F: *aggressive drone noises*
The best J-20 video and series on the internet. Such a fascinating plane yet so misunderstood still.
Damn those elephants scared the shit out of me
I love seeing videos like this Millenium, they really do engage the engineering mind. Sometimes the haters will come and constantly spout their political garbage, and it should be more about the fighter aircraft. May China be successful in their future endeavors.
And sometimes the fake accounts will come and try to pump up their government...
@@williamtell1477 No fake account here. Just someone that enjoys Millenium's impartial videos on Russian and Chinese aircraft, and see the good that China does. Just go on their IG and you get to see that they provide all sorts of infrastructure to Portugal, Norway, Croatia, Thailand, Laos etc. Stay educated. 👍👍👍
@@Lena-vw6ye sure, 100% not CCP propaganda... 9/10 troll accounts agree.
@@williamtell1477 You're a complete loser lol
@UC73Rz2wL6H4Ni7kRE_zfSow oh no. does it make you mad to get busted "Lena"? you are fooling noone with this stuff...
omg that elephant in the room scaried the shxt out of me...
Nice video as always. I always thought canards would hurt the design more, however you showed how it is mitigated. There is a site that says that they believe that stealth number for F-35 is only good from the front from any other view it is average at best. I guess deciding factor would be as you said the quality of stealth coating. Still waiting on that video about truth vs reality in Russian technology and how far behind they truly are. Keep up great work.
"Russian technology and how far behind they truly are"
@@frankcrawford416 The direct side profile of most stealth designs is quite bad (barring the B-2 and F-117). It's not considered to be an issue because unless the aircraft is orbiting around you, it won't provide that profile for very long. Moving in a straight line, a plane will only show its direct side for a second.
其实是发动机推力不足 用鸭翼能获得更好的升力
I'm used to pooh-pooh'ing it, however it's probably adequate in its perceived operational environment.
@@user-qx4zs6im2u 还不是为了圆美国佬吹的牛逼，当年吹f22升力系数2.0 结果等j20好不容易搞出2.3的升力系数的时候发现人家实际只有一点五
I always considered the J-20 as an interceptor role, not an air superiority dominance role. Thus the the elongated format.
No one's calling J-10 an interceptor. Chinese fighters tend to be more elongated, due to relatively weaker engines. J-20 appears longer than it is because of the small vertical stabilizers, like the video says.
@@byhyew he said j20
@@byhyew WU U WUMAO 🤣🤣🤣
@@byhyew The J-20 is Mach 2, while the F-22 is Mach 1.6. In addition, the J-20 has produced a two seater aircraft. Its positioning is very clear, and it can be used as an air command platform to cooperate with UAV attacks. If the stealth machine is found, it will lose its advantage, and it does not need to engage in close combat
One thing i noticed early in the video, in a sequence of shots of the plane on runways, between about 1:54 and 2:07 time stamps, there's a tawny colored patch of color under most of the planes. This appears to be a pretty strong reflection of the dried grass off to the sides of the runway. Maybe nothing, maybe unfinished prototypes with just bare metal, but it seemed an unusual optical reflectivity of ambient light for any 'stealth' craft, like they could wind up visually appearing as a very bright spot in the sky. Not fully understanding here, just a bit of a 'hm'.
Always good to see new videos... perhaps OTIS should get to show off some more of his knowledge on the topics in future videos.
j20 already equipped with WS-10c that comes with serrated nozzles.
Retrofitting WS-15s as we speak
@@timehammer4352 what how can they do that..lol it will affect design
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I saw a lot of materials from the Chinese Internet here, and I even subscribe to the authors of some materials for a long time.The author of the video of the J20 under the rising sun at the beginning of the video is "Baisuishan is not sweet pro", he is a member of the Chinese Air Force
I was watching a j20 video on another channel and I thought to search your channel you never disappoint
This plane looks really cool, lets hope it will help to keep peace, rather than used in any conflict.
Very wishful thinking!
Agree
@@blazinchalice If the US continues their unhealthy foreign policy of harassing China and trying to upkeep their world domination, I am sure these beauties will be the last things US military will see in their skies.
This plane... There are 2 🤔
@UCFcJNearxPbBI6zLydqm9Sg This racism and hate towards an ethnic group is exactly why Ukraine is having this conflict. Keep it up and you will end up living in shantytown somewhere on the outskirts of Warsaw.
I just now watched a new 3 minute CCTV military recruitment video. The J20 made a 720 degree roll in about 1.5 seconds. The weird thing was during the roll the nose scribed a conical circle about +/- 10 degrees. Also during the roll, it looks like the angle of attack is increased by about 10 degrees (which would increase drag). Instead of a pure roll, it looked like it was corkscrewing. Why would the J20 aerodynamics do this if the intent was a high speed roll? Is Yaw performance involved? Is lift on the right side kicking in faster than the reduction in lift on the left side kicks in for some aerodynamic reason? You would think with 2 canards in the front and control surfaces on both wings in the back, they could keep the nose direction constant throughout the roll. This could be problematic if chasing another fighter aircraft (losing energy when keeping wings parallel to the wings of the fighter in the front quadrant, plus a tendency to change direction in a curved arc to the desired ADI vector instead of a linearly changing direction). Is this some kind of maneuver to slow the air speed because J20 has no speed brake? Last thing about it is … if the J20 is already pulling so many Gs it’s on the edge of departure, then performs this kind of high speed roll which creates more lift on one wing, then that wing may be prone to go turbulent and lose lift altogether … that would either reverse the roll or go into a spin or uncontrolled tumble.
This is just my educated guess from observing the CCTV video. I still expect China to use the J20 for high speed sneak ambush missile shots from a distance at enemy fighters focusing their attention on close air combat with J10s and Flankers.
The fact that the chinese even decided to put a canard on a stealth aircraft means that they probably got the control system down to a notch. as computing capabilities were what limited the use of canards on earlier aircrafts.
Interesting observation. The Eurofighter also seems to 'corkscrew' when it rolls. Quite unlike the Rafale, which by contrast keeps its nose pointing precisely straight ahead.
When I LoOk at the F & then the J I see two completely different aircraft and while there may be similarities & claims to this OR that, I see a grape compared to a raisin, aircraft with different missions and objectives. 🤔
I wonder if the rounded RAM surfaces on the F35 might be overlaid on top of an angular substructure which has the desire refractive geometry?
I expect China to use j20 as ambush not just for high value air targets but also to participate in combined air combat at a distance, sneaking in some unexpected missiles from a distance while the enemy’s focus is on flankers and j10s which do all the close air combat. And I expect it to carry a couple large antiship missiles (as large as can fit inside the weapons bay).
Regarding torsion, I expect the Canards to work in conjunction with other control surfaces to minimize torsion forces on the fuselage
Basically the J-20 is going to be the Chinese Mig-31.
Gus ... you out did yourself here. Thank you
ps, holy crap!! your english improved more than people who've lived in the US for 10 years in just the last 3 years of just making videos!!!
I started trying to learn the Russian alphabet / reading .... v. hard! lol.
The radar installed on the J-20 is almost definitely not KLJ-7A, since that is a relatively small radar mounted on JF-17 Block 3s and it doesn’t make sense for it to be mounted inside the large radome of the J-20. And it is most likely not Type 1475 radar either as that should be the radar of the J-16. Nobody actually knows what radar is mounted on the J-20. And the IRST system is also not the first one mentioned in the video, since it is not developed by a state institute like the optical institute in Luoyang known for producing optics for chinese fighters.
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洛阳光电可还行
当年jf17 block3没有装配最好的小型雷达
@@user-qo9vy5cg7k 即使有比KLJ-7A更好的小型雷达也不大可能装在J-20上，完全可以装个TR数量更多功率更大的AESA
@@jackyzou630 不是在j20上使用的，是枭龙3雷达的竞品，空空一平方米雷达探测范围200＋可以完美适配pl15 后来等到枭龙3出来的时候就很奇怪 雷达缩到160公里了 然后也弄出个pl15e
Thanks for another great aeronautical engineering analysis of the J-20.
Have you ever auditioned for a Bond film? I would love to see you as Bond's ally in Russia or Ukraine. You would be great.
best channel on yt for these videoes
That elephant really scared me 😭
I'm VERY curious as to the J-20's actual combat readiness percentage is!
F--22 has, if I remember right, a 69% combat readiness. So out of 174 F-22's only 120 will be available at any given time.
So if J-20 has that abysmally low percentage, which it likely doesn't, only 103 would be available. Close enough of a number to go to war with. Especially since J-20 production is in full swing and F-22 isn't ever going to be reproduced again..
F-22 has been in service since 2005 with 180+ built when production ended in the 90's, J-20 in 2015 and yet on around 50 have been built. And the F-22's replacement is now in the works. Yes, another Raptor will never be built - a more advanced one will be built in its place.
@@fredmdbud No. China has between 120-150 or so. They are scheduled to have around 200 by years end. They are SPECIFICALLY built for air superiority over the F-22. They are no joke. They are being integrated very fast and training is too notch, easily matching the wests training standards.
@@fredmdbud 150+ so far, and that’s actually counted airframes, no one knows how many more for certain. They are also producing them at a current rate of 24-30 a year and that’s before they get their WS-15 engine which is when production is expected to ramp up to full capacity.
It's more likely for J-20s to encounter F35s than F-22s.
@Ram123
"So if J-20 has that abysmally low percentage, which it likely doesn't"
Curious. Is it really realistic to think the Chinese don't face the same challenges as any other air force when introducing a new fighter? Especially their first real stealth fighter?
Thanks for all the really well made explanations.
J 20 is basically a sniper rifle meant to destroy mainly the E2 AWACS
Not such a bad idea for them. Sensor fusion isn't such a game changer if the sensor is shot down.
And Tankers.... Without tankers the Air Force is practically handicapped in the Pacific without extreme forward basing in Southern Japan, Taiwan, and Northern Vietnam. Even the US Navy will have big problems operating aircraft within good striking range of mainland China.
Nope. That was the initial guess and yes it will eventually have a missile (PL-17/21 depending on who you ask) that’s ultra long range and designed to take out large non manoeuvrable targets at 400km, however the standard medium/long ranged missile, the PL-15 is a Meteor class missile used for standard air superiority missions.
Yes it’s preference will be to kill at range vs in a furball but that’s modern fighter doctrine anyways. If you’re dogfighting you fucked up.. and that’s in any modern aircraft.
@@chrisdoulou8149 Very strong nope there. Is there something you know that the rest of the world outside of the Chinese military doesn't?
@@freefall0483 They are building them in large numbers as their primary air dominance fighter. It’s their equivalent of the F-22 and there’s already a decent chance that they have built more of them than the American jet (150+ so far airframes with production ramping up).
If you’re saying that the PLAAF is going to use it as a modern day F-14 (it’s Phoenix missiles were designed to do just that) then why build them in such numbers? Why make their primary weapon system the PL-15, a Meteor/advanced AMRAAM class weapon? Why is the only plane the PL-21 been seen so far tested on the J-16?
Accepting what you say means that the Chinese have not only decided to massively over supply their forces with a niche weapon system, that they also have decided that they have no need for a modern 5th Gen air superiority fighter even though they obviously have the capability of doing so?
It makes zero sense doctrinally for the Chinese to build so many if that was its sole mission while at the same time neglecting to build a much needed air superiority fighter. It makes even less sense if they did do that, for its weapons bay to be designed to fit 4 air superiority class missiles.
The PL-21 is huge, a J-16D will likely be able to carry two externally. You’re wasting a stealth design if the primary weapon needed for its mission can only be carried externally, therefore mitigating any stealth the aircraft has. With a range of 400km the missile doesn’t need a stealth aircraft to carry it to begin, it will likely launch outside the detection range of any aircraft or at least under heavy jamming support against targets like AWACS.
It literally makes no sense.
The Magodelvuoto provided us another very interesting video he only has the secret. Excellent job as usual !
I wonder if it could be something mundane like having to keep the wing length down to a certain maximum so it fits in standard hangers or even the carbon fibre mould.
Thanks!
Thank you so much 💓!
Hey man, maybe you need to update your policy of "no India-Pakistani stuffs" to "No China-Pakistani-India stuffs". Every time I saw your videos about Chinese stuffs, the comments section just go full carcinogens. I get that it brings a lot of traffics, but at least moderate or close the comments section off.
I'm not here to argue, maybe I'm too much of a snowflakes in this community, but I just wanna say something about it, cheers.
When it is China, it is mostly Americans dismissing what China does. When it is India/Pakistan, we go from the ridicule to the profanities to the death threats. You don't see all of those because YT AI is smart enough to block the worst comments, and I always have to delete hundreds of them, and there is no bulk delete.
@@Millennium7HistoryTech I know you're doing your best and meant well, but seriously, it's Americans AND Indians dismissing what China does & both of them are capable to be quiet toxic.
There are "stealing", "copy-paste", even "Uyghur" comments. With comments as spicy as that, I wonder when "Last Chang" & "Pub Conrad" would visit & spam this channel too.
Ok, this is a bit of a rant & I'm gonna stop here. Keep the good work
As a Chinese i just want to say i don't care about those insults much, just a small inconvenience to get very informative videos.
Yep. When I open the comments section I just wanna see some rational discussion rather than those nationalistic shit
@@akirasean4080 bru how thin is your skin and you are totally a snowflake go look at any video this guy has made about the f35 you Chinese do the exact same
J 35 i think first serial model was released couple days ago
don't do the elephant trick ever again... I almost got an heart attack ;)
Luv the videos on this channel!!!
When you were talking
About bystatic radars, would it be possible to use radars on multiple aircraft that point on 1 point but are not near each other to collect radar reflections deflected by stealth by different aircraft which would be connected by datalink to reduce enemy stealth capability
Yes, it is possible, and it is done.
Nice video as always
Nice jet
Thankyou for the excellent presentation - - - -
Where can I go to find stuff about the Chinese PLAF? Like videos and such
Da igual, escribiremos algo para dar de comer al algoritmo y a Otis.
Very interesting technical information... Awesome 😊 🎉 🇮🇩 🙏 👍 💯
What I personally do not like, the side bays housing the (HOB?) Fox2 are obscured from the canards. Meaning in a dogfight the missile seeker can not "look up" because the canards are in the way. Thus for such situations launch parameters have to be gathered another way or the Fox2 can't be launched "up".
22:57
OBTUSE!
Obtuse is the opposite of acute in terms of angles.
Under 90° it's Acute.
Over 90° it's Obtuse.
Well done!
Nice planes
You can as many antenna but you need sufficient power to source them. So the highly efficient engines are elephant in the room
Great video mate. I always look forward to each new one. I have a question...
I live in North Queensland Australia. Recently a squadron of F35s based here- About 5km away from.my house. I love watching them even though they are bloody noisy.
My question is, when they are on final approach, they ALWAYS maintain a bank angle of around 45 degrees until they are within a few seconds of touching down. They only level out and flare at the very last moment. Is this the standard way to land an F35? Thank you again for your great work.
It is strange. I wouldn't know why, are they avoiding anything tall near the runway?
@@Millennium7HistoryTech thanks for answering. No, this city is very flat- Townsville Queensland. It has always been a big Army and Airforce centre, in fact, my father was based here during WW2.
It appeared strange the first time I watched the F35s on approach. I can watch it all from my sun deck. It is a busy commercial airport and I watch planes take off and land from 6.00am each day.
The F35s tend to come in high and fast and they turn onto final quite late when compared to domestic aircraft. It may be a noise reduction thing? The bank angle must obviously increase the sink rate reducing the amount of city they overfly. Whatever the reason, it is spectacular to watch. Thank you again for responding.
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6:48 that elephant scared me
Please add Kfir COA on the model page. Thank you! Greetings🇨🇴
I almost shit my pants with that elephant. Excellent videos by the way.
Can you do an analysis of the HAL AMCA?
S-27 also has very long fuselage, so my guess is they took cue from Su-27.
here's an idea for a future video
i always wondered why even for modern planes they choose hydraulics over electric actuators. from what i've read, in WW2 part of the Focke Wulf 190's success in combat was based on the fact that it used small electric motors to move the control surfaces which allowed it to shave off weight and maintain control in speeds where other planes could not because of the air pressure. the air pressure at high speeds wouldn't allow the wire or hydraulic system to deflect the control surfaces and the pilot would lose control but the electric motors of the 190 could overcome it.
sure, hydraulics have come a long way since then but so did electronics and electric equipment is lighter than a system of tubes and pumps filled with liquid. so why are they still choosing hydraulics over electrical?
Cost and simplicity of maintenance, maybe? 🤷🏻♂️
All modern earth moving equipment (bulldozers, excavators, etc.) use hydraulics. Hydraulics are definitely strong enough to move a control surface on a plane. While I think electric motors are lighter and simplify maintenance, they are not EMP resilient like hydraulics.
No! Electric motors actually increasing weight especially when dealing with aircraft that have to withstand higher loads.
The F-35 uses curve-form stealth, modelled by supercomputer, to inherently scatter radiation n probably has better internal arrangements. I'm willing to bet it's highly integrated situational awareness leaves the J-20 standing, too.
Yeah if you discount its 800 major defects, the F-35 is an excellent plane ; if it's not grounded again.
@@jeroboam4486 800 defects over a development cycle of decades. Most have been fixed or are currently being addressed. For example.. the oxygen feed to the pilot causing blackouts; ejector seat lacking sufficient boost. That said, is there an aircraft out there that hasn't suffered a variety of issues over development n acquisition? The Tomcat, F/A-18.. even the fantastic Eagle. The F-35 is transformative - I expect it to present a myriad of issues, some of which will never be fixed. The J-16... Can barely get off the deck with ordnance, so has to be immediately re-fuelled upon take-off.. to fix that: build a new ship or develop a whole new engine. Neither is a quick fix.
@@jarvismckenzie776 I mean it still had alot of defects for a so called fully devoloped fighter . Guess now I know why China and Russia are taking it slow
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@@jarvismckenzie776 Too be fair the j16 issue is more of a aircraft carrier issue
@@sharequsman596 imagine though... Problem with a naval aircraft; no worries just spend a clear 10 billion replacing the runway! The problem is more to do with the engines - couldn't retrofit or produce indigenous engines powerful enough to get itself off the deck with significant payload.
Also review tempest, amca , kai fx
2 over 3: done already
Tempest prototype not exist. They still changing their airframe design, the same also applied with AMCA.
Idk what needed to review from KF-21, he done it already
MY GOD, why the elephant 🐘? Mini heart attack 😭
Looks different on the Lockheed Martin plans.
Please make a video about towed decoys on modern jets!
They are flipping secret!
Amazing explanation in19:20 and more Love this Channel
Does otis even need to hack Chinese servers?
Could probably just start dissing the plane on some game forums... and wait for the specs to be uploaded, to prove you wrong...
I think that trick only let you get J-15 data at the most for now. Need to wait for another 5 years.
lol
i see what you did there 😅
*Angry Chinese pilot uploads his J-20 manual to prove you wrong XDD
Every major country had their tank specs leaked on that tank game forum.
It uses engines made in russia and is entirely secondhand blueprint f35 data. Not including the actual electronics and systems that are likely not on par or same capability.
说得好，塔是复制的，你的国家怎么不复制一个😏😏
如果F35设计图纸这么好盗窃，干嘛不直接偷发动机的？😆日本和韩国、英国都购买了F35。所以他们为什么也复制不了五代机？
Errata in your discussion of actuators J20 vs F35 - the F35 electronic actuators vs J20 hydraulic.
Did you accidentally type in your password as your UA-cam channel name?
Why?
@@Millennium7HistoryTech I used a password like "Millenium7*" (and variations of it) just to meet password requirements. Does it mean something?
@@Rightin02 Consider changing your passwords now, letting people know your password pattern isn't a good idea.
@@waynezheng5341 I use complex passwords and 2FA now, but thank you.
excellent analysis very detailed...
thanks for such a good and thorough analysis
in the meantime, the chinese have produced a new engine of their own, similar to the one in the f35
Always always interesting and informative. Presented in a simple manner that even us chimps can understand
I'm sorry sir, I've recently came across your channel and I'm afraid I don't your name, do you have any contact details where I could perhaps get a message to you regarding sources and texts for personal study please?
Go to the channel page, in the About tab there is a way to get to my e-mail
@@Millennium7HistoryTech thank you!
Hi, can you please give me the music @ 7:47?!
It is just random stock music, it is not published.
Any thrust vectoring?
The new J35 looks nicer 🇨🇳
I do have a doubt. The Su 57 has small vertical tails compared to the F 22 becoz its an all moving tail plane, which in fact gives more vertical plane surface compared to the F22. The J 20 also uses the similar all moving tail plane, hence having it smaller, but then y would it need the bottom 2 vertical plane? is the 2 top all moving vertical plane not enough surface?
Maybe those 2 bottom fixed fin for stability.
I believe it is for stability at high speed.
Imo their level of know how simply isn't as good as the Americans', hence all the control surfaces...
@@wageslave387 bnñ. Mnemonic
That elephant
👍
The J20 has baby wings in front of the big wings
@Dord Dord thanks !
@Dord Dord 🤣🤣I don’t know much about jets
The J20 can have a 120D or S400 to the face as a treat.
The Meteor too.
Doesn't the J-20 already outrange the AIM-120D
@@lIllIlllIlIllIlllIlIllIlllIl are you aware of the AIM 120 D3 ?
@@OmKaR-if2ek Care to elaborate on its relevance?
@@OmKaR-if2ek PL-15 is literally dual-pulsed. Physics don’t allow a 120D of any variant to outrange a dual-pulsed missile.
why no subtitle this time?
Operation 📎
Re: J-20
It’s a no-brainer here guys…
The J-20’s *CONCEIVED HOT SPOTS*:
*= the F-111 Aardvark’s of the Vietnam War…*
Strike a cord here, guys?
Similar to the B-58 of the 50’s and the F-111 of the 70’s, the J-20’s configuration was not meant as an air superiority specimen as per that of the F-22.
With a coat of cloaking substrates, that job goes to the J-10, J-11, and J-16’s and maybe, just maybe - it also rests on the J-31’s which I bet they secretively fly *in squadron numbers* cuz of the sensitive natures of it...
East Asians *don’t let good money go to waste*. Though they are secretive about their R&D’s as the Americans are about theirs, they have to be running these initial (Block 1’s or J-31’s) in squadron numbers in order to know it’s in’s and outs of it and in order for them to fiddle with it to advance it to the (Block II or the J-35 designation) and…
If history if replication is any indication, a J-35 (C) or a VSTOL version of it is at the works given all of the 075 and 076 assault ships they are building so mark my word on this one.
My two cents only so don’t hold me to this.
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6:50 Why canards on a stealth jet plane? An obvious possibility is: What if the canards are completely made of radar-penetrating material?
What is a radar penetrating material
@@UA-camuser1aa Bascially no-metal material, such as carbon fiber.
Optics require clear weather.
Interesting as fuck!
that was not j20..that was protatype of the i belive its call j35 now day....they aredy been tasted it for year now...ouh the first picture i mean that has yellow colour....and i wana point somting that you got wrong...the j20 very high manuver in air..i got the link to show how the j20 manuver in air
Have we ever seen it launch a missile from the internal bay? Still lots of speculation on if the latest missiles can even fit or the internal bay is fully operational
Sir plz Make videos about kf-21 Borame.
Done already, look on the channel
One more observation of the J20. Looking at the large open weapon bay doors, the inside has an extremely anti-aerodynamic surface exposed to the wind stream. The doors may be inoperable at supersonic speed. This would be a huge limitation in firing PL15 missiles. If this is true, then it would affect tactics and performance. For example, when closing at supersonic speed, the J20 closing fast while hiding below the horizon or at least hiding in the ground clutter, would aggressively climb immediately before launching PL15s. The high altitude climb makes the J20 more detectable but drops air speed and air density to tolerable levels for the weapon bay door. Also the high altitude PL15 launch extends the missile envelope, but also increases the chance of being detected either through radar due to the open weapon bay door, and detected in IR due to the launch flair.
Looking close at the J20 weapon bay, each side holding two PL15 missiles could hold one large non cylindrical missile with fives times the cross section area. This implies China may develop Anti ship missiles fitting inside the J20, each weighing about 1000 Kg.
Supersonic separation has been observed by the Taiwanese
Looks like a high (?) speed interceptor and not much more.
That God da€_ elephant
J-20 is more lethal,it's not like F-35 which sinks in the South China sea 🤣🤣🤣🤣
That was entirely pilot error while landing on a carrier, get your facts right first. The J-20 can't land on a carrier, its very much an all show no capability aircraft.
What? Have you seen a J20 tookoff and land on any of their carrier? 🤣 it was never designed fo carriers. F35 has several variants.
@@pongtswaila7922 Be patient，J35 is coming🤗🤗🥳
We're gonna find out soon😂🤣😂😂🤣😂😂will see
According to the CCP the PLAN have three operational, superior Carriers. So sure they've got 150 J20's.
J35
@@bbbzhong4166 : How many are there ???
@@buildmotosykletist1987 ua-cam.com/video/jQVBVJuNuCU/v-deo.html
@@buildmotosykletist1987 j35的定位才是舰载机，目前已经到第三阶段测试。 或许不久几个月时间就可以量产。 j20目前非官方的估计，数量大概在150-280之间，大约等同于f22的数量。
我是中国人，不是机器人。
Does anyone know the unit cost of the J-20?
90 millionb dollars at the very least
@@nicator8380 that is cheap compared to its peers....assuming of coarse it is as good as they are. I am not convinced of that!
I made it by A4paper
@@MrLeewsee 中国有制造业优势，更低的人工成本，所以我们可以花一美元买到美国十美元的东西😏
@@aniuge I know what you are saying, but if that were the case why hasn't China built more? Why hasn't China found export customers?
The J 20 from all available info has a larger radar signature than the F35. Is this true?
we may never know... unless the 7th generation jet is in server.
The actual info will be probably better than the "classified" ones, millitary sections likes to hide things and knowing china, no
Indian radar picking up those Conrads from 1000 mi away 🤣
Shhhh don’t hit them with too much facts
Most loud Indians (found over the internet) do not know sh*t about Luneburg lens
There some thing you will never know lol.
J20 has some technology to turn stealth off.
@@shabotages you mean radar reflectors lol?
Oh right...India media...gosh..you believe them...
Why the unnecessary, annoying and distracting music over voice? You don't need it,fit spoils the video. Why not have the sounds of the planes instead of wholly inappropriate music? It's unwatchable. I'm off.
Sorry 😔
@@Millennium7HistoryTech I appreciate your reply. I do want to watch your content but the music makes it difficult to concentrate on what you are saying.
Plasma actuators offer superior control, at less weight, and no increase in RCS.
Good reveal. All things considered, the J-20 looks pretty stealthy. I'm betting the price tag is considerably less than the F-35. As for reliability and mission-readiness compared to the F-35? That's not a high bar to cross.
However, the truth is that RAM is the thing that takes the most part in stealth. And you can literally find RCS simulation of both planes with metal surface constructions online.😓
Geometry
The best plane you can steal from other countries
But it can it take off and land fully armed and loaded off an aircraft carrier?
Can the F-18? You know the number of Hornets dedicated to buddy refueling?
@@johnsullivan8673 Asking a question of a question is poor form. Go back to internet school.
@@evilchaperone Never heard of the Socratic Method, huh? I would suggest you request a tuition refund from your higher education provider but I think it's unlikely that you actually undertook high education.
Algorithm.
Junk20 the best sky falling craft there is dum dum duudumm dum dum duudumm Lets go Junk20 lets go lets go junk20 lets go dont fall from the sky junk20 dont dont dum dum duudumm dum dum duudumm
The Chinese should publicly thank Israeli for transferring the tek. I guess money can buy love.
Europe can’t design and develop anything anymore
Europe never could... some countries in Europe could.
The main problem is that the Europe countries just aren't willing to pay the money to develop stuff.
And then you have stuff like the euro hawk...
As long as russia is part of Europe it can.