FLE does mean ''floating lens element'', but it's not the FLE mechanism that makes the rattling sound when you shake it. It's your aperture assembly that's shaking around. If it's your lens element making that noise, the lens is in big trouble. FLE means some lens elements (in the rear group) move independently from the main lens group.
Every time I learn more from you, the one thing I learned the most is always wear a camera. Another thing which is just a feeling, you inspire me, thank you Thorsten.
Added the 35 aspherical version 1 (gorgeous and mine doesn't back focus) and the (pre-a)spherical version 2. I may be mad but I am starting to prefer spherical Leica lenses. The 75 lux, for example.
Thank you Thorsten for featuring my work in this series, great talk as always! I was always a 50 guy like you, but recently started to use the 35mm more, love the Steel Rim and the 35mm AA as two opposite character lenses. Take care my friend
Summilux 50 was probably best lens I have ever owned. Now, reduced to one camera (Leica Q1) I am in love with the 28mm Summilux. It is creamy, dreamy with amazing colors right of the camera. As an amateur and also photography lover, it gives me everything I want and more. Cheers.
Thank you for sharing about 35mm Summilux, Thorsten. 35mm Summilux is a good lens to capture people, their environment & groups, but 50mm is the best lens to capture people alone. Looking forward to hear your review about the new 35mm Summilux FLE II in the future.
Great video Compared to other channels your channels is so no nonsense, plain facts and great stories, love it. IMO one of the best, if not THE best, out there. Beautiful shots too, saw some familiar places Hilsen fra Amsterdam, God weekend
The illustrative photos alone that you choose are worth the price of admission … thanks for a fine overview. I’m still aspiring to Leica ownership but in the mean time, I’m enjoying the 35 mm equivalent field of view on my new Fujifilm X100V after years of taking iPhone snaps. As always, a very informative and enjoyable presentation … merci from Quebec!
I've got the 35 Cron Bokeh King and the 35 FLE. Both great lenses, both very different. You're right, Leica lenses are sharp where it counts, but soft and human at the same time, which is why they are worth the mooney.
You’re amazing! I learned so much. Just bought the 50mm f0.95 Noctilux silver version two weeks ago from B&H photo in NYC where I live but I have not used it yet.
The steel rim is too soft... Also the soul of Leica is SMALL... Therefore I sold my 50mm 0.95 Leica because it was too big. I'm a 35mm Summicron man. I have the King of Bokeh and absolutely love it on my M240.
The aspherical element of 11663 is not machine-ground. It is moulded, giving rise to bokeh with onion rings. Nowadays nearly all of Leica's small aspherical surfaces are moulded. Only those large aspherical surfaces, such as those of 0.95, are machine-ground.
I love the way 50mms render things a faces and perspective but the issue is that you can’t always go further back. So for my Leica I use 35mm. But things can be a bit further away. Cinematographers have long used a 40mm equivalent which doesn’t really distorts things but let’s in a bit more image. Last year I shot a few rolls in a Canonet with a 40mm lens and things look very natural. The issue is that Leica is so fixed on their classic photography focal lengths they won’t make cameras with 40mm frame lines and 40mm lenses, although it would fit the Leica philosophy so well.
Film doesn’t really move like you explain. The lesser tolerance comes from lower resolution but much more because different film stocks have different thickness.
You’re definitely a good saler of 50mm! 😂 I like 35mm because it enables me to photograph humans in their environment. I also like that it is the standard lens for cinema, which makes me feel like I’m taking photos that look like they come from a movie… I have the 35mm FLE and I have seen pictures with the new close-up version. The new one has less chromatic aberration as well.
Not sure about size of camera. And then there is the lenses. Some of the Nikon lenses, especially the older Nikkor lenses, I could have fun with (and used to have Nikon FM3 and more, as well as 58/1.2 and other lenses with it). Hasselblad is the camera that tempts me the most these days.
This E39 shade will work: www.overgaard.dk/Thorsten-von-Overgaard-Gallery-Store-Hardware-for-Photography-Ventilated-Lens-Shade-forE39mm-Leica-50mm-APO-Leica-50mm-Summicron-Leica-28mm-Elmarit-35mm-Summicron-ASPH.html
It's not *_one_* of the crown jewels. It's *_THE_* crown jewel; specially paired to that M11 sensor. Pity us 3d world aficionados that won't be able to save enough for that combo in five years --you can get a decent car here for that sum.
Ps. Wanted to purchase the new 50 1.2 -though after mounting and trying 3-4 frames in the store disregarded it right the way - complete ***** . The is no sharpnes i cant even tell where the focus was just an oozyng mess . (Im professional DP/ cinematographer ) and we are add filters to kill sharpness when shooting close up of women often . This lens felt same way as if i shot through a dirty window . Cheers . And again hold it in hands heavy and cold theres nothing like it . Ps ( best lenses ever produced are Otus by Zeiss . But with 300 degrees through they are impossible to use for moving subjects on street :(( and build is unparalleled though from aluminum - which is crazy prone to dents unlike leicas steel or glass. Cheers cheers
Nice talk as usual and i even didnt see i smudge of some kind of snobbism(patronizing attitude) which was/is always repulsive . In this video You have a good attitude . Also as usual frankly want to add that leica lenses are notoriously awful in controlling CA , fringing and having awful sharpness wide open ( take sgot at 1.4 and bring sharpness sliders in CO or LR to ZERO ) . Im myself owned all systems the most expensive glass . The best are Sony GM’s . So im using this system for years now (updating optics and cameras with new releases) yet this 2022 year out of esthetics decided to acquire Leicas , Q2 REPo, 10R , two M11s and 50 with 35 1.4 ( all new ) . And comparing with my Sony lenses i was blown with frustration how unspeakably bad they are . But now i have made my peace with it . I am crazy about the look of Leicas and how heavy theyre in hands im into watches as well and love vintage things - Leica justifies the need . . So i keep them and using for my personal fun . Never for work . Also Love your Hoods ! @veprges_angeles
FLE does mean ''floating lens element'', but it's not the FLE mechanism that makes the rattling sound when you shake it. It's your aperture assembly that's shaking around. If it's your lens element making that noise, the lens is in big trouble. FLE means some lens elements (in the rear group) move independently from the main lens group.
Every time I learn more from you, the one thing I learned the most is always wear a camera. Another thing which is just a feeling, you inspire me, thank you Thorsten.
The whole purpose ... get you to take photos and enjoy it!
18:45 😂😂😂 love how you cracked yourself up there.
Added the 35 aspherical version 1 (gorgeous and mine doesn't back focus) and the (pre-a)spherical version 2. I may be mad but I am starting to prefer spherical Leica lenses. The 75 lux, for example.
Thank you Thorsten for featuring my work in this series, great talk as always! I was always a 50 guy like you, but recently started to use the 35mm more, love the Steel Rim and the 35mm AA as two opposite character lenses. Take care my friend
Yes, you are having fun and making some good stuff with the 35mm 🙂
Summilux 50 was probably best lens I have ever owned. Now, reduced to one camera (Leica Q1) I am in love with the 28mm Summilux. It is creamy, dreamy with amazing colors right of the camera. As an amateur and also photography lover, it gives me everything I want and more. Cheers.
Thank you for sharing about 35mm Summilux, Thorsten. 35mm Summilux is a good lens to capture people, their environment & groups, but 50mm is the best lens to capture people alone. Looking forward to hear your review about the new 35mm Summilux FLE II in the future.
Love you propped the Style Council album on your mantle for this fantastic video!
An absolutely cracking video and so interesting , love your stuff.... have a great 2023 and look forward to following along !!
Thank you 🙂
Great video
Compared to other channels your channels is so no nonsense, plain facts and great stories, love it.
IMO one of the best, if not THE best, out there.
Beautiful shots too, saw some familiar places
Hilsen fra Amsterdam,
God weekend
Always, thank you 🙂
What an inspiring video... every time you put one of these art pieces i am inspired to go out and shoot and also buy another ventilated shade 😎
Thank you so much for the us Leica users. 👥 👥
Mu pleasure 🙂
Thanks Thorsten, nice pictures and a good story.
Thank you Peter
Nice one Thorsten! So nice talk!
Sure appreciate your knowledge!
Simply fantastic exposition!
Thank you 🙂
The illustrative photos alone that you choose are worth the price of admission … thanks for a fine overview. I’m still aspiring to Leica ownership but in the mean time, I’m enjoying the 35 mm equivalent field of view on my new Fujifilm X100V after years of taking iPhone snaps. As always, a very informative and enjoyable presentation … merci from Quebec!
Thank you 🙂
The 35mm f/1.4 was the first lens I purchased for my M6.
I've got the 35 Cron Bokeh King and the 35 FLE. Both great lenses, both very different. You're right, Leica lenses are sharp where it counts, but soft and human at the same time, which is why they are worth the mooney.
Two nice lenses 🙂
Hello dear friend .
If you had to choose between this lens and the Leica APO- Summicron-M 35mm f/2 ASPH lens, which one would you prefer?
I think I would find the narrow sharpness of the f/1.4 the most fun to use. The 35 APO is impressive for what it can do though.
Hi Thorsten , don't you use Monochrome Leica instead of converting from colour to black and white?
You’re amazing! I learned so much. Just bought the 50mm f0.95 Noctilux silver version two weeks ago from B&H photo in NYC where I live but I have not used it yet.
The steel rim is too soft... Also the soul of Leica is SMALL... Therefore I sold my 50mm 0.95 Leica because it was too big. I'm a 35mm Summicron man. I have the King of Bokeh and absolutely love it on my M240.
The aspherical element of 11663 is not machine-ground. It is moulded, giving rise to bokeh with onion rings. Nowadays nearly all of Leica's small aspherical surfaces are moulded. Only those large aspherical surfaces, such as those of 0.95, are machine-ground.
I love the way 50mms render things a faces and perspective but the issue is that you can’t always go further back. So for my Leica I use 35mm. But things can be a bit further away. Cinematographers have long used a 40mm equivalent which doesn’t really distorts things but let’s in a bit more image. Last year I shot a few rolls in a Canonet with a 40mm lens and things look very natural. The issue is that Leica is so fixed on their classic photography focal lengths they won’t make cameras with 40mm frame lines and 40mm lenses, although it would fit the Leica philosophy so well.
True, a 40mm is one of my wishes or dreams. The Leica-C/Minolta-C lens 40mm f/2.0 exist though, and is a rare gem.
Interesting, informative video. Have you considered using 40mm lenses, which are a compromise between 35mm and 50mm? Thanks
Yes, I have the 40mm Summicron-C which is compact and nice. Thought no frame-lines for it in the Leica M. Bot a big problem, you get used to it.
How about the new 35mm f2 Summicron APO M lens?
Film doesn’t really move like you explain. The lesser tolerance comes from lower resolution but much more because different film stocks have different thickness.
You’re definitely a good saler of 50mm! 😂 I like 35mm because it enables me to photograph humans in their environment. I also like that it is the standard lens for cinema, which makes me feel like I’m taking photos that look like they come from a movie…
I have the 35mm FLE and I have seen pictures with the new close-up version. The new one has less chromatic aberration as well.
I've always heard 40mm is the standard cinema lens
is the optical performance of 35mm FLE1 Summilux and 35mm FLE2 Summilux the same? Is FLE2 designed for higher mega pixels?
Yes, the optics are the same, the aperture of the "FLE2" near focus has two more blades which is giving a smoother bokeh.
@@MagicOfLight_ThorstenOvergaard ok thanks
plus it focuses down to 0.4m.
Would you choose Nikon or Canon for your purposes? Could they meet your needs as well?
Not sure about size of camera. And then there is the lenses. Some of the Nikon lenses, especially the older Nikkor lenses, I could have fun with (and used to have Nikon FM3 and more, as well as 58/1.2 and other lenses with it). Hasselblad is the camera that tempts me the most these days.
Just bought a Voigtlander 35mm f/1.5 for my M6-22. I need a shader 39.
This E39 shade will work: www.overgaard.dk/Thorsten-von-Overgaard-Gallery-Store-Hardware-for-Photography-Ventilated-Lens-Shade-forE39mm-Leica-50mm-APO-Leica-50mm-Summicron-Leica-28mm-Elmarit-35mm-Summicron-ASPH.html
@@MagicOfLight_ThorstenOvergaard order placed. Matted finish as for the lense ;-)
Matt Osborne UA-cam video convinced me.
Do one on the 50mm summilux, that’s the one I want . 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
jo geier, a YT channel showed today an original 35mm 1.4 steel rim made in canada, maybe you know him and his shop in vienna.. greets BM
I have the same cup … now I want the same lens
Very, very interesting video. I own Leica too and such fun to use.
RS. Canada
It's not *_one_* of the crown jewels. It's *_THE_* crown jewel; specially paired to that M11 sensor. Pity us 3d world aficionados that won't be able to save enough for that combo in five years --you can get a decent car here for that sum.
😊
Ps. Wanted to purchase the new 50 1.2 -though after mounting and trying 3-4 frames in the store disregarded it right the way - complete ***** . The is no sharpnes i cant even tell where the focus was just an oozyng mess . (Im professional DP/ cinematographer ) and we are add filters to kill sharpness when shooting close up of women often . This lens felt same way as if i shot through a dirty window .
Cheers .
And again hold it in hands heavy and cold theres nothing like it .
Ps ( best lenses ever produced are Otus by Zeiss . But with 300 degrees through they are impossible to use for moving subjects on street :(( and build is unparalleled though from aluminum - which is crazy prone to dents unlike leicas steel or glass.
Cheers cheers
50mm. Always 50mm.
50mm
Nice all this talking about Leica but you can’t by a new one in the Netherlands. All sold out
Nice talk as usual and i even didnt see i smudge of some kind of snobbism(patronizing attitude) which was/is always repulsive . In this video You have a good attitude . Also as usual frankly want to add that leica lenses are notoriously awful in controlling CA , fringing and having awful sharpness wide open ( take sgot at 1.4 and bring sharpness sliders in CO or LR to ZERO ) . Im myself owned all systems the most expensive glass . The best are Sony GM’s . So im using this system for years now (updating optics and cameras with new releases) yet this 2022 year out of esthetics decided to acquire Leicas , Q2 REPo, 10R , two M11s and 50 with 35 1.4 ( all new ) . And comparing with my Sony lenses i was blown with frustration how unspeakably bad they are . But now i have made my peace with it . I am crazy about the look of Leicas and how heavy theyre in hands im into watches as well and love vintage things - Leica justifies the need . . So i keep them and using for my personal fun . Never for work .
Also Love your Hoods !
@veprges_angeles