Leica 35mm Summilux Review - One of the crown jewels of lenses. By photographer Thorsten Overgaard

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    In this video photographer and Leica expert Thorsten von Overgaard compare the models of the Leica 35mm Summilux lenses and goes over the 80 years history of Summilux wide angle lenses that have been produced in Germany, Canada and Portugal.
    01:03 The Leica 35mm Summilux-M ASPH f/1.4 FLE Model 11873
    01:26 The first Leica lenses were the 50mm lenses
    01:50 Should I get a 50mm or a 35mm?
    2:20 When to get a Summilux f/1.4 lens
    3:03 Which lens are you?
    3:49 The Glory of 50mm focal length
    4:53 Tilting lines or straight lines
    5:40 Leica 35mm Summilux-M ASPH FLE "Close Focus" 2022 model Model 11726
    6:54 Leica 35mm Summilux-M f/1.4 "Steel Rim" 1966 and 2022 models
    7:30 Original "Steel Rim" collectors prices
    8:55 Not a perfect lens, but a beautiful lens
    9:08 Leica 35mm Summilux-M f/1.4 Version II "Pre-ASPH" Model 11870
    9:35 "Steel Rim" and Version II same optical design
    10:02 Leica 35mm Summilux-M ASPH f/1.4 "Double Aspherical" Model 11873
    10:20 Hand-grinded in Canada
    10:35 Double Aspherical as collectors item
    10:47 Leica 35 Summilux-M ASPH F/1.4 FLE Model 11663
    10:58 Comparison of FLE and Double-Asperical
    12:37 Current Leica 35mm Summilux lenses
    12:48 Clicking inside the lens
    12:50 What is an "Floating Element" (FLE)
    13:05 Focus Diffraction
    15:25 Leica 35mm Summilux-M ASPH f/1.4 FLE "Close Focus" Model 11726
    16:45 Design: Ventilated Hood vs built-in shade
    17:05 The hidden department in the Leica lens box
    19:16 35mm Summilux for professional use: A workhorse!
    19:38 The Leica Look
    20:38 Comparison of 35mm Summilux FLE models
    21:10 "The Classic Lens"
    21:20 How to justify $20,000 for a lens
    22:05 How handmade lenses are made vs "uniform production"
    25:10 iPhone photography vs Real photography
    26:34 Conclusion
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    This video was made with the Leica SL bhpho.to/3cIbPEg and Leica 35mm Summilux-L ASPH f/1.4 bhpho.to/2MEr0nn , using Sennheiser wireless microphones bhpho.to/2zafn4v . Leica SL2 as second camera.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 63

  • @shawnj8765
    @shawnj8765 Рік тому +12

    FLE does mean ''floating lens element'', but it's not the FLE mechanism that makes the rattling sound when you shake it. It's your aperture assembly that's shaking around. If it's your lens element making that noise, the lens is in big trouble. FLE means some lens elements (in the rear group) move independently from the main lens group.

  • @MilanSwolfs
    @MilanSwolfs Рік тому +3

    Thank you Thorsten for featuring my work in this series, great talk as always! I was always a 50 guy like you, but recently started to use the 35mm more, love the Steel Rim and the 35mm AA as two opposite character lenses. Take care my friend

  • @peetje28021970
    @peetje28021970 Рік тому +3

    Every time I learn more from you, the one thing I learned the most is always wear a camera. Another thing which is just a feeling, you inspire me, thank you Thorsten.

  • @prithusunil380
    @prithusunil380 4 місяці тому +1

    18:45 😂😂😂 love how you cracked yourself up there.

  • @andrewbaines1831
    @andrewbaines1831 Рік тому +2

    An absolutely cracking video and so interesting , love your stuff.... have a great 2023 and look forward to following along !!

  • @mehmetbayraktar1045
    @mehmetbayraktar1045 Рік тому +2

    What an inspiring video... every time you put one of these art pieces i am inspired to go out and shoot and also buy another ventilated shade 😎

  • @Coco-ct5ix
    @Coco-ct5ix Рік тому +2

    Love you propped the Style Council album on your mantle for this fantastic video!

  • @Boxer1250RT
    @Boxer1250RT Рік тому +4

    Summilux 50 was probably best lens I have ever owned. Now, reduced to one camera (Leica Q1) I am in love with the 28mm Summilux. It is creamy, dreamy with amazing colors right of the camera. As an amateur and also photography lover, it gives me everything I want and more. Cheers.

  • @claudiusweson
    @claudiusweson Рік тому +3

    Thank you for sharing about 35mm Summilux, Thorsten. 35mm Summilux is a good lens to capture people, their environment & groups, but 50mm is the best lens to capture people alone. Looking forward to hear your review about the new 35mm Summilux FLE II in the future.

  • @RS-Amsterdam
    @RS-Amsterdam Рік тому +4

    Great video
    Compared to other channels your channels is so no nonsense, plain facts and great stories, love it.
    IMO one of the best, if not THE best, out there.
    Beautiful shots too, saw some familiar places
    Hilsen fra Amsterdam,
    God weekend

  • @GrenvilleMelonseedSkiff496
    @GrenvilleMelonseedSkiff496 Рік тому +3

    The illustrative photos alone that you choose are worth the price of admission … thanks for a fine overview. I’m still aspiring to Leica ownership but in the mean time, I’m enjoying the 35 mm equivalent field of view on my new Fujifilm X100V after years of taking iPhone snaps. As always, a very informative and enjoyable presentation … merci from Quebec!

  • @taneltinnuri8985
    @taneltinnuri8985 Рік тому +2

    Nice one Thorsten! So nice talk!

  • @exoops
    @exoops Рік тому +2

    Thanks Thorsten, nice pictures and a good story.

  • @richarddenise3886
    @richarddenise3886 Рік тому +2

    Simply fantastic exposition!

  • @Narsuitus
    @Narsuitus Рік тому +2

    The 35mm f/1.4 was the first lens I purchased for my M6.

  • @mikedesimone1783
    @mikedesimone1783 Рік тому +2

    Thank you so much for the us Leica users. 👥 👥

  • @stepitup5409
    @stepitup5409 5 місяців тому +1

    Sure appreciate your knowledge!

  • @vinylisland6386
    @vinylisland6386 Рік тому +2

    I've got the 35 Cron Bokeh King and the 35 FLE. Both great lenses, both very different. You're right, Leica lenses are sharp where it counts, but soft and human at the same time, which is why they are worth the mooney.

  • @richardsimms251
    @richardsimms251 3 місяці тому

    Very, very interesting video. I own Leica too and such fun to use.
    RS. Canada

  • @MARKLINMAN1
    @MARKLINMAN1 Рік тому +1

    Do one on the 50mm summilux, that’s the one I want . 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

  • @daviddb4858
    @daviddb4858 Рік тому +2

    Good review. You missed one difference, the new lens with 11 aperture blades compared to the 9 aperture blades of the older version of the Summilux FLE 1.4. and how that changes to bokeh effect.

    • @sandswan
      @sandswan Рік тому

      Yeah, the video lost a touch of credibility there when he said optics were identical. Maybe at 1.4, but they wouldn't be at 2.8.

  • @Sniper5354
    @Sniper5354 Рік тому +1

    The aspherical element of 11663 is not machine-ground. It is moulded, giving rise to bokeh with onion rings. Nowadays nearly all of Leica's small aspherical surfaces are moulded. Only those large aspherical surfaces, such as those of 0.95, are machine-ground.

  • @fabricecregut
    @fabricecregut Рік тому +1

    You’re definitely a good saler of 50mm! 😂 I like 35mm because it enables me to photograph humans in their environment. I also like that it is the standard lens for cinema, which makes me feel like I’m taking photos that look like they come from a movie…
    I have the 35mm FLE and I have seen pictures with the new close-up version. The new one has less chromatic aberration as well.

    • @WhoIsSerafin
      @WhoIsSerafin Рік тому +1

      I've always heard 40mm is the standard cinema lens

  • @VariTimo
    @VariTimo 10 місяців тому +1

    Film doesn’t really move like you explain. The lesser tolerance comes from lower resolution but much more because different film stocks have different thickness.

  • @WordonSportsAi
    @WordonSportsAi Рік тому +1

    How about the new 35mm f2 Summicron APO M lens?

  • @ahmeddaghriri4180
    @ahmeddaghriri4180 Рік тому +2

    Hello dear friend .
    If you had to choose between this lens and the Leica APO- Summicron-M 35mm f/2 ASPH lens, which one would you prefer?

    • @MagicOfLight_ThorstenOvergaard
      @MagicOfLight_ThorstenOvergaard  Рік тому +4

      I think I would find the narrow sharpness of the f/1.4 the most fun to use. The 35 APO is impressive for what it can do though.

  • @VariTimo
    @VariTimo 10 місяців тому +1

    I love the way 50mms render things a faces and perspective but the issue is that you can’t always go further back. So for my Leica I use 35mm. But things can be a bit further away. Cinematographers have long used a 40mm equivalent which doesn’t really distorts things but let’s in a bit more image. Last year I shot a few rolls in a Canonet with a 40mm lens and things look very natural. The issue is that Leica is so fixed on their classic photography focal lengths they won’t make cameras with 40mm frame lines and 40mm lenses, although it would fit the Leica philosophy so well.

    • @MagicOfLight_ThorstenOvergaard
      @MagicOfLight_ThorstenOvergaard  10 місяців тому

      True, a 40mm is one of my wishes or dreams. The Leica-C/Minolta-C lens 40mm f/2.0 exist though, and is a rare gem.

  • @shy-guy5544
    @shy-guy5544 Рік тому +1

    Interesting, informative video. Have you considered using 40mm lenses, which are a compromise between 35mm and 50mm? Thanks

    • @MagicOfLight_ThorstenOvergaard
      @MagicOfLight_ThorstenOvergaard  6 місяців тому

      Yes, I have the 40mm Summicron-C which is compact and nice. Thought no frame-lines for it in the Leica M. Bot a big problem, you get used to it.

  • @MIZRAIM1906
    @MIZRAIM1906 Рік тому +8

    The steel rim is too soft... Also the soul of Leica is SMALL... Therefore I sold my 50mm 0.95 Leica because it was too big. I'm a 35mm Summicron man. I have the King of Bokeh and absolutely love it on my M240.

  • @Blackmind0
    @Blackmind0 Рік тому +1

    jo geier, a YT channel showed today an original 35mm 1.4 steel rim made in canada, maybe you know him and his shop in vienna.. greets BM

  • @pacoguerilla3097
    @pacoguerilla3097 Рік тому +2

    Just bought a Voigtlander 35mm f/1.5 for my M6-22. I need a shader 39.

    • @MagicOfLight_ThorstenOvergaard
      @MagicOfLight_ThorstenOvergaard  Рік тому

      This E39 shade will work: www.overgaard.dk/Thorsten-von-Overgaard-Gallery-Store-Hardware-for-Photography-Ventilated-Lens-Shade-forE39mm-Leica-50mm-APO-Leica-50mm-Summicron-Leica-28mm-Elmarit-35mm-Summicron-ASPH.html

    • @pacoguerilla3097
      @pacoguerilla3097 Рік тому

      @@MagicOfLight_ThorstenOvergaard order placed. Matted finish as for the lense ;-)

    • @pacoguerilla3097
      @pacoguerilla3097 Рік тому

      Matt Osborne UA-cam video convinced me.

  • @pixelmixture3067
    @pixelmixture3067 Рік тому +1

    I have the same cup … now I want the same lens

  • @johannesbasuki391
    @johannesbasuki391 3 місяці тому

    Hi Thorsten , don't you use Monochrome Leica instead of converting from colour to black and white?

  • @gurugamer8632
    @gurugamer8632 Рік тому +1

    is the optical performance of 35mm FLE1 Summilux and 35mm FLE2 Summilux the same? Is FLE2 designed for higher mega pixels?

    • @MagicOfLight_ThorstenOvergaard
      @MagicOfLight_ThorstenOvergaard  Рік тому +1

      Yes, the optics are the same, the aperture of the "FLE2" near focus has two more blades which is giving a smoother bokeh.

    • @gurugamer8632
      @gurugamer8632 Рік тому

      @@MagicOfLight_ThorstenOvergaard ok thanks

    • @swcblad
      @swcblad Рік тому

      plus it focuses down to 0.4m.

  • @jorgemtrevino
    @jorgemtrevino Рік тому +1

    It's not *_one_* of the crown jewels. It's *_THE_* crown jewel; specially paired to that M11 sensor. Pity us 3d world aficionados that won't be able to save enough for that combo in five years --you can get a decent car here for that sum.

  • @MikhaMakha
    @MikhaMakha Рік тому +1

    Would you choose Nikon or Canon for your purposes? Could they meet your needs as well?

    • @MagicOfLight_ThorstenOvergaard
      @MagicOfLight_ThorstenOvergaard  6 місяців тому

      Not sure about size of camera. And then there is the lenses. Some of the Nikon lenses, especially the older Nikkor lenses, I could have fun with (and used to have Nikon FM3 and more, as well as 58/1.2 and other lenses with it). Hasselblad is the camera that tempts me the most these days.

  • @hansalbers9894
    @hansalbers9894 Рік тому +1

    😊

  • @oshanefa
    @oshanefa Рік тому +1

    Ps. Wanted to purchase the new 50 1.2 -though after mounting and trying 3-4 frames in the store disregarded it right the way - complete ***** . The is no sharpnes i cant even tell where the focus was just an oozyng mess . (Im professional DP/ cinematographer ) and we are add filters to kill sharpness when shooting close up of women often . This lens felt same way as if i shot through a dirty window .
    Cheers .
    And again hold it in hands heavy and cold theres nothing like it .
    Ps ( best lenses ever produced are Otus by Zeiss . But with 300 degrees through they are impossible to use for moving subjects on street :(( and build is unparalleled though from aluminum - which is crazy prone to dents unlike leicas steel or glass.
    Cheers cheers

  • @OliverMark0001
    @OliverMark0001 Рік тому +1

    50mm. Always 50mm.

  • @Mowikan
    @Mowikan Рік тому +1

    Nice all this talking about Leica but you can’t by a new one in the Netherlands. All sold out

  • @oshanefa
    @oshanefa Рік тому +1

    Nice talk as usual and i even didnt see i smudge of some kind of snobbism(patronizing attitude) which was/is always repulsive . In this video You have a good attitude . Also as usual frankly want to add that leica lenses are notoriously awful in controlling CA , fringing and having awful sharpness wide open ( take sgot at 1.4 and bring sharpness sliders in CO or LR to ZERO ) . Im myself owned all systems the most expensive glass . The best are Sony GM’s . So im using this system for years now (updating optics and cameras with new releases) yet this 2022 year out of esthetics decided to acquire Leicas , Q2 REPo, 10R , two M11s and 50 with 35 1.4 ( all new ) . And comparing with my Sony lenses i was blown with frustration how unspeakably bad they are . But now i have made my peace with it . I am crazy about the look of Leicas and how heavy theyre in hands im into watches as well and love vintage things - Leica justifies the need . . So i keep them and using for my personal fun . Never for work .
    Also Love your Hoods !
    @veprges_angeles