I beg of you to not get sucked into the online hate for things. I like that you watch things with an open mind and take it for what you see and don't bring into it any outside garbage. If you like something then that's great, if you don't then that's fine too. Allow your opinions to come about organically without influence. But please don't prejudge like too many seemingly do. Let the story unfold before you and experience it as you have been. Speculate responsibly. May the force be with you.
The lady fighting Grievous is similar to Ventress. She was from the Night Sisters to some degree. You were seeing that war from Clone Wars when Grievous went to Dathomir and attacked.
It's so weird seeing someone watch the tales of the Empire trailer without any background knowledge 😂 But yeah, if you've seen all of the Star wars content, you would basically understand everything that is happening in that trailer. I'm not gonna talk about it because spoilers (though I'm sure someone else will) but any questions you have about the trailer will be answered when you get to Rebels and the Ahsoka show, so... basically all of Star Wars. And now, the acolyte trailer. That show takes place during the high republic, about 100 years before phantom menace. And... that's it. All we know is that the sith will pop up and jedi will be confused. I think the trailer was a bit over hated, its just that we have no clue what to expect, so we don't really know if it was a good trailer or not. But tales of the Empire, we know all of these characters, and they are all beloved. So of course people will just like that trailer more, because we have an idea whats happening. But Acolyte, we don't.
I don't think that trailer was overhated. There isn't supposed to be a sith at all because the jedi specifically said that the sith hasn't been seen in over a thousand years in the phantom menace.
I'm so excited for Tales of the Empire! It looks absolutely amazing! Grebious looks so good with his updated CW season 7 design. I always thought it was such a shame they only used his new updated look for one intro sequence. And I do agree he looked so menacing in this and I hope they do him justice like they did in Son of Dathomir. I can't really say anything more about the rest of the characters because you will get to know them later on in future shows on your list. As for the Acolyte trailer and why it has such a different like to dislike ratio... It's comlicated but I feel like for most people their problem is with the director and what it means for the show. Let's just say she has said some things in the past that upset a lot of Star Wars fans and she has shown no interest in respecting the world George Lucas created. If you want to you can look up more info on it, there are tons of articles and videos about it on youtube. But in a nutshell, she dosen't seem to respect or understand what Star Wars is and just wants to bring her own politics and agenda into a well established and difined IP which rubbed people the wrong way. And I definitely agree that such a big universe should be handled by someone who loves Star Wars and understands it. So because of her there is not a lot of faith in the show right now since we have seen what it looks like when Star Wars is handled by those who have no idea about it's characters and their motivations... ahem sequels ahem. But I do think that it is a bit overhated and many people have already wrote it off as trash. I will still wait and watch, then if it's bad it's bad but i'm not going to write it off as something horrible because who knows, maybe it's okay. So whenever people ask me about this show I always think of that one Obi Wan line in CW S7: "I'm cautiously optimistic"
The whole thing with the Acolyte is just how people's been swayed to hate something because some creators out there need something to show hate towards in order to get viewers and be seen by the algorithm. And considering the periode where the Acolyte takes place in, the High Republic, which happens a few hundred years before the events of the movies... Well, SOME people who are still salty that Disney removed the Old Republic from canon, saw Disney introduce the High Republic and thought "Oh, so Disney is trying to replace the beloved Old Republic with something else." Not realizing that the Old Republic takes place THOUSANDS of years before the events of the movies... Like, the Acolyte takes place around 100 years before the events of Episode 1, and replaces literally nothing established by the Old Republic, so these haters have nothing to be angry about. There's also the idea of "Oh the Sith can't be known to have returned until 100 years after this." Which people seem angry about, not realizing that there are a million ways to explain it. A dark jedi, a dark side force user, if it IS a Sith, the might silence anyone who knows about their existence at the end of the series anyways. Red lightsaber and use of the force does not HAVE to equal Sith, some people probably do not understand that. There are examples of this around already. Asajj Ventress, Savage Opress and that Inquisitor Ahsoka fought in Tales of the Jedi. None of those are Sith, yet they are force sensitive and wield red lightsabers. So no, we don't know if this will break with continuity, most likely it simply won't. So please do not get swayed by the hate the Acolyte has received. Most of it is based upon people having been convinced by haters who spread hate trough their channels, so they get viewers and attention. Such haters don't know it, but they are actively destroying Star Wars. Don't bother with THEM. But by all means, check out the Acolyte... We don't know if it will be good or bad, it could turn out to be a masterpiece for all we know. And Tales of the Empire? Considering how well loved tales of the Jedi were, and judging by the trailer, it looks like Tales of the Empire is going to become one of the best Star Wars short series' out there. So it looks REALLY promising. Also, no spoilers, but you will get to know more from Morgan Elsbeth in the Mandalorian season 2 and more so in the Ahsoka series... But you SHOULD have watched Rebels even before taking on those two. While as far as I can tell, Tales of the Empire should be free from Spoilers considering what you have watched, and Acolyte should be SO much free of spoilers, considering it would LITERALLY be the first thing in the timeline of Star Wars that has a canonical show connected to it.
Hi, Ben. I know my comment is long, but I assure you, there are NO SPOILERS. I promise. I just want to give you accurate facts and thoughts about the two upcoming Star Wars shows I'm looking forward to and to tell you not to feel worried about them, specifically The Acolyte. I wrote a lot more about that series later on because I'm passionate about what the series is and will be to Star Wars. First I just want to say I really enjoy watching your videos and appreciate the thoughtful remarks you make regarding Star Wars. To start with Tales of the Empire, I'm very excited to see the continuation of Barriss's story from after The Clone Wars. I've been a Star Wars since I was a child but recently got fully in-depth into the universe about two years ago. Now I'm reading the (canon) books, rewatching the movies I'd seen before, watching the shows, reading the comics, audiobooks, etc. I finished Clone Wars two years ago, so I'd been eagerly waiting to see what they’d do with Barriss. I know that others have been waiting for over a decade, so I know that I don't have the right to discuss my waiting time compared to others. I'm not going to discuss the other character because you don't know her, but I'm also excited about that as well. I'm looking forward to May 4th. For The Acolyte, I'm equally excited for the show if not more so than Tales. For clarification, the show takes place 100 years before The Phantom Menace. The movie takes place in 32 years BBY (Before the Battle of Yavin in A New Hope), so the series should be set in 132 BBY. The Acolyte is also set in the High Republic era. I won't go into further detail here in case you don't want to know. But in case you’re interested, you can search "Star Wars High Republic" online and you shouldn't find spoilers about future stories from where you are currently. It's so far in the past from the prequel era and further down the timeline in the future that you're unlikely to encounter spoilers for other content. But who knows, some people are very rude and don't care what they are posting online, so be cautious about about that. Personally, I know the High Republic extremely well, so I'm very informative about this era in Star Wars. Moving on to the "hate" people have about The Acolyte. It's... so frustrating and annoying that people always have opinions to say about something that are not even based on any sort of factual evidence whatsoever, and can judge harshly on a show, and say that it's terrible from watching a minute and forty-six seconds trailer. It's baffling... I'm baffled by the foolery. The "hate" is just the minority vocalizing their inaccurate assumptions about the show. The majority of Star Wars fans are actually super excited for The Acolyte for numerous reasons. But the people who aren't are just loud with their opinions, and it makes it seem like they're the majority of the fandom. There's also flat-out bigotry and discrimination people have about the casting in The Acolyte that are highly offensive, which adds to the "hate" you're hearing about, Ben. And please try not to take the like-dislike button ratio on UA-cam as something to sway your view on the show. People just hate to hate on a series and want to spew their negativity onto others with no actual assessment of the stories. People giving out false info makes others think a certain way, mostly negatively towards a project. I know I'm being direct, so if other people who are reading my comment are offended by what I'm saying, do what you will, but don't spew inaccurate statements that hinder someone else's experience. It's so irritating that people don't take the time to use their imagination, or basic logic in all honesty, and just blurt out the first thought they have, i.e. mostly incorrect statements. It's also incredibly rude to the creators who made numerous vocal remarks about how much fun they had making The Acolyte. And when people watch the trailer and say, "This breaks canon," don't you think that the creators of the show will also ask the same question? They know "the Sith have been extinct for a millennium," and the showrunners never said a Sith was going to be in the show. So people are wrong when they say the Sith are going to be in The Acolyte because that's incorrect; the showrunners never said that. Please, people, who behave in this manner, think before you type or speak on a matter because you may sway someone into thinking something's "bad" when they haven’t seen it yet. It's a terrible cycle. Also, Ben, this is very important info right here to know going forward: A person who uses a red lightsaber is not synonymous with being a Sith. The Rule of Two states there can only be two Sith- a master and an apprentice. "Always two there are," Yoda says in The Phantom Menace, "no more, no less." And yes, we have seen characters so far who use the dark side and carry a red lightsaber, Ventress for example, but she doesn't hold the title of being a Sith, that's why the Jedi/Republic call her an assassin, not a Sith. And Ben, you said the word "Inquisitor" in referring to the dark-side user Ahsoka fought in Tales of the Jedi, and they also held a red lightsaber. But don't be confused, there are only two Sith in the imperial era- Sidious and Vader. I'm not going to go into more detail because I don't want to give away something that hasn’t been stated from where you are right now in Star Wars. But please remember this because this could be very important moving forward: All Sith are dark-side users but not all dark-side users are Sith; very important to be aware of. For people who have read this lengthy comment, I'm sorry that it's long, and thank you for taking the time to read it. Also, Ben, keep doing an amazing job.
For those of us who have watched all the Star Wars, you’ll have to wait for our opinions on when you can watch this. Clearly with Grievous, some episodes are already pre-bad Batch season 2. You might be able to watch a few episodes soon, as long as no one spoils any plot lines of future shows.
15:10 So basically, there’s a part where Ki-Adi-Mundi says that Sith have been extinct for a millennia, only THAT ISN’T TRUE. That line was meant to highlight the Jedi’s ignorance, unfortunately that has gone over Star Wars incels’ heads as usual bc they don’t actually watch for the story like they claim, they watch for the explosions. Qui Gon literally spots a Sith and tells the council and they respond by saying they’re extinct.. that sums up the Jedi’s ignorance. The Sith never went extinct, they just went into hiding. Also, it’s not unreasonable to believe that they’ve dismissed red lightsaber users as rogue Jedi and not Sith because Sith is a religion, just like the Nightsisters use the dark side but they are not Sith. Also this isn’t the first time this has happened, in Legends, the Sith Empire went into hiding for a few hundred years during the time of the Old Republic and invaded the Jedi temple. The same way they went into hiding during the Republic era and Sidious created Order 66. Also it’s even more confusing why people are surprised by this when the show is titled “The Acolyte” referring to a Sith Acolyte.. just like Asajj Ventress. Also yes, red lightsabers do not mean Sith. Red lightsabers have been used by Jedi in Legends and Canon and also by Nightsisters in Legends. Adi Gallia actually has Canon comics where she used a red lightsaber, but she replaced it during the Clone Wars to separate herself from Sith like Maul when he made his return.
@@willfanofmanyii3751 “two Sith at all times” he was clearly referring to Sith LORDS, following the philosophy of the Rule of Two (which is not a lore rule, it’s simply an ideology WITHIN Star Wars, not a rule OF Star Wars) ex. Plagueis+Sidious, Sidious+Maul, Sidious+Dooku, Sidious+Vader… however, other Sith have still existed, especially during Sidious and Dooku with Maul still living, perspective on whether they’re viewed as “legitimate” Sith is definitely a factor. Like Sidious wouldn’t consider Maul a Sith the same way Maul doesn’t consider him a real Sith. It’s subjective. Also my reference to the Old Republic was longer than 2,000 years before the High Republic, it was around 3,000 years before. At that time there were Sith armies, obviously there weren’t Sith armies during the High Republic, but The Acolyte trailer still does not suggest this. It suggests there is a Sith in training to become a Lord. We can assume this is a Sidious, Dooku, and Asajj situation where one Sith Lord is trying to teach an assassin to gain help in overthrowing the more powerful Sith. We also don’t know how many Jedi will survive the attack of the Sith, many of them who figured out they were a Sith could be killed. Or none of them could realize they’re a Sith. The Acolyte is supposed to be an ex-padawan of Sol, so there’s a possibility Sol just thinks Mae fell to the dark side and has no idea about the Sith Lord that is seducing her to the dark side. So at the end of the day, we just need to wait til this show actually comes out, but so far the trailer has not indicated any sign of breaking canon.
I actually really like the acolyte trailer. There seems to be a lot of criticism towards the project that is indepedent from the trailer. I personally don't know what all the citicism is about, since I don't read such news before something was released. Going into a show with an open mind makes the most fun and if it is actually that bad, I will see, but I allways have hopes to be pleasantly surprised...
From what I can tell, the hatred for The Acolyte is in protest of the creator, Lesley Headland, for her politics. Her rhetoric can be described as "woke". Also, she was one of Harvey Weinstein's assistants back in the day, but apparently never really came out strongly against him. You probably already know this, but Harvey Weinstein sexually assaulted women and was an overall predator. There's also the issue of her interpretation of Star Wars and her view of the Jedi, which translates into the themes and messages portrayed in the show (and trailer). "This isn't about good or bad." Like, WHAT? I'm personally not a fan of Headland's politics, and I take issue with some of her takes on Star Wars, but the trailer for The Acolyte looks pretty good. I'm cautiously optimistic. I think it deserves a fair shot.
"This isn't about good or bad" is literally the philosophy that led to Timothy Zahn writing Heir to the Empire. I don't think it's a bad thing to have a more balanced approach. Especially now with the culture war and everything where so many people see the world in black and white. Besides, the idea of the Jedi losing their way was a thing George Lucas set up in the prequels.
She literally has talked about how abusive he was and she quit after working for him for a year despite working her way up the company for several years prior to that
I do not know why but Tales of the Empire looks 1000 times better than The Acolyte... The only reason for me to watch Acolyte is Carrie-Ann Moss❤ But we will see... ! Acolyte can not be better than Bad Batch season3! Greetings from Germany
What? Tales of the Empire is entirely about two female characters and yet it recieved overwhelming support. I just don't understand how people always arrive at the "this thing has female characters and that's why they hate it because they are sexist" logic.
@UC6kIA5jSBYMDqu3eADljotQThat’s because Barriss is a green alien and Morgan is played by an asian actress but is still an alien. They’re female aliens so incels don’t make as much of a fuss. Since The Acolyte features women of color and other people of color, Star Wars incels had to jump on it. Despite the fact that the cast is stacked with talent.
@UC6kIA5jSBYMDqu3eADljotQ You're forgetting that we're talking about bigots here. Bigots are by nature hypocritical. Granted, it's not as simple as that. But at the end of it, this is really what the far right is mad about: diversity.
Regarding Tales of the Jedi and the new characters: The main character alongside Barriss will be Morgan Elsbeh: She is the surviving Nightsister from the massacre on Dathomir carried out by Grievous. She seeks revenge and maybe option to rebuild her clan. Here, I myself don't know many things because this is a very new character. (We see a similarity here to Barriss - both have lost everything, and presumably, their stories will unfold differently, making them opposites, much like Ahsoka and Dooku.) 10:25 It looks to me like another Dathomirian clan. I don't remember their specific names, but these clans were constantly at war with each other (that's why Ventress was given to criminals, to ensure the safety of the Nightsisters clan), and after the massacre on Dathomir, it's possible that the Separatists went further than just eliminating one clan. 2:23 Thrawn: If we consider Palpatine a genius, Thrawn is on the next level. The greatest genius and strategist of the Empire. (After suggestion from other viewers, I reduced his description to a minimum, so I will simply say that he is one of the most interesting characters.) 2:31 Fourth Sister - We know very little about her. All we know is that she was a Jedi who joined the Inquisition and her name is Lyn. 2:50 Grand Inquisitor - The leader of the Inquisition and a literal psychopath. Barriss's speech led him to lose faith in the Jedi and deem them weak and unworthy of being the guardians of the galaxy. This motivated him to join Palpatine. He considers all Jedi teachings weak and believes that only brute force can be the leader and wield power. We see this in how he treats Barriss and others: Kill or be killed. (Additionally, the location where he trains Barriss - the Sith language is written on the walls. Unfortunately, I cannot translate it. It is possible that this is the place under the Jedi Temple where Ashoka fought the illusion of Sidious after leaving the order, but this is speculation.) 3:51 The inquisitor next to Barriss is Marrok and it may be worth paying attention to him because he also has a mystery. Regarding "Acolyte": We don't have a specific date. Some say it will be 200 years, others say 100, and others say 50. Personally, based on one of the characters, I lean towards 200-180. We're talking about the end of the golden age of the Jedi and their decline leading up to the Clone Wars and their downfall. 14:14 One of the potentially known characters is Master Plo, but we don't have confirmation. Given his species' longevity, it's possible. 14:26 This is a character from the High Republic books- Vernestra Rwoh. Since she's a Mirialan, I'll just say she's the perfect version of Barriss. (because it happens in a time of peace/High Republic and not the Clone Wars.) She was knighted when she was around 15 and is now one of the most powerful Jedi and may serve as a mentor to one of the main characters. What people don't like is that it's the beginning of a new era and there are no references, just lightsaber swinging and fight scenes. Jedi should be right after the war with the Nihils, which led to the Order's dependence on the Republic. This should be mentioned, or at least the effects should be visible. Unfortunately, there's nothing like that here. And honestly I agree, there's nothing there only fight scenes and swinging lightsabers. Additionally, we have a red lightsaber. The first Sith to openly act against the Jedi was Darth Plagueis. It's possible it's him or the mysterious acolyte has Sith strength for some reason. However, there's one condition. Whoever sees the red lightsaber must die. Jedi live in blissful ignorance, and if someone notifies the Order about someone with a red lightsaber, it will retcon a fragment of the Phantom Menace. "Impossible The Sith have been extinct for millennum" - Mundi Many fans are also irritated by Disney's policy. There are only women; there are only a few men. Personally, I don't care, but I've heard interviews with the actresses, and one of them, when asked to tell us about her character, said: "She's a strong leader, Yes, Yes" - that's a red flag because the actress couldn't say anything else. A strong female character is someone like Ahsoka, Leia or now Barriss, who is complex, develops her own personality and views, and is not always right. Fans and I fear that these characters won't be like Ahsoka but like Mary Sue definition, which is the total opposite of Ahsoka. Lack of character development. The character always wins and is always right. And sometimes, they don't even have a personality. Their moves can sometimes even break canon. Additionally, the director is an activist, and let's say she talks too much about it in the context of her series, which is why fans are really worried about this project.
Can you not do that please? He'll discover the names and aspirations of characters in time while watching the shows. IF he has any real questions about thing that are NOT shown or saud, THEN we can answer, just don't spoil things now
@@hehu4025 Yeah but Thrawn's character will be explored in the audio comics (that he can watch if he wants) and possibly in the very Tales of the Empire show
You cannot watch Tales of an Empire. You will be spoiled. The Acolyte looks great. I have no idea why it's hated only reason I can think is there are too many women. A lot of Star Wars bros don't like women as leads in the show. Or too many people of color.
Acolyte is headed by someone that doesn't deserve to touch star wars. The type that turns movies from escapist fantasy to a podium of preaching views with little to no subtlety. Same reason I will never again watch 7/8, I never watched 9, never watched solo, is why I will not be watching the Acolyte.
The Acolyte trailer is over hated because of online culture war stuff, full stop. Grifters yelling how media is dying due to woke creators because the algorithms encourage outrage. Frankly I've really enjoyed your reactions because of how not engaged you are to the online star wars space and the notions of how those loudest fans feel. There is a 'concern' that could be made on the Acolyte for POSSIBLY retconning the jedi knowing about the rise of the sith, but one thing to keep in mind is that the Acolyte takes place in the high republic era, an era that has been explored in comics and books that explains how the jedi 'lost their way'. One THEORY is that maybe the jedi covered it up, or maybe the jedi who saw the sith all died, we'll have to wait and see like everyone else!
My best advice about HOW and WHEN you'll watch Tales of the Empire is... to not worry about it right now. You still have basically 2 whole seasons of The Bad Batch to watch before you step on that territory. Tales of the Empire releases on May 4, by my calculations, you'll just have finished Episode 11 of Season 2. The best option I can think of is to just continue watching The Bad Batch, THEN when it releases we will watch it and tell you the exact point for you to start. There's a lot of content before a New Hope, especially if you count the two videogame which I still think you should at least react to the cutscenes. That's all my personal take at least
@@literallyagalilacegenii7.690 No, I was refering to Jedi Fallen Order and Jedi Survivor. Why would I be referering to Force Unleashed? They aren't even canon.
About Sith being extinct: If the red saber does belong to a Sith, I would also be disappointed, but it doesn't need to be and I think that they wouldn't do such a canon breaking thing that contradicts canon that was established in one of the movies. I would assume that the red saber belongs to some Jedi that might have turned or to some new fraction that is independent from the Sith. In the show they would deal with this problem, solve it and then the statement of Sith being extinct for hundreds of years would still be true.
I haven't seen any negativity. Everyone I know, and everyone I follow, loves the Acolyte trailer and can't wait to watch it. If there is any hate around it, I bet it's all from those Disney haters I told you about. They hate anything new. They also hate seeing any female characters in their Star Wars, or any character that aren't male, white, humans. They'll also call you a "Disney shill" if you enjoy anything. Don't pay attention to those kinds of people. Just have fun and enjoy what you enjoy.
Good question, one that you’re gonna have to wait for one month and another while for the other. Truthfully, after the sequel, I have been enjoying things, but I’ve been having my fun knocked off by over the top hated fans.
The Jedi said the Sith were extinct... That's not true, the Jedi are ignorant, they didn't believe when Qui-Gon reported his encounter with Maul in Tatooine, when Padme accused Count Dooku for being the responsible for her murder attempts, Mace Windu said Dooku would never do that bc he was a Jedi... When Obi Wan didn't find Kamino in the Star maps and he suggested the archives were incomplete, Jocasta, the old lady who keeps the Library, said that wasn't possible, also, in Tales of The Jedi, she didn't believe Qui-Gon and said he was imagining things... As u can see, the Jedi are always wrong, they're so stupid that they build the Jedi temple in Coruscant above an old Sith sanctuary, that also helped Palpatine to cloud their vision during the Clone Wars. About the dislikes in the trailer... Star Wars fans hating Star Wars, nothing new.
Reception towards Acolyte is very extreme because of certain people involved in the show, the remarks made by those people about the show (and about what they think the fans need), and who said people are connected to, because... ugh. Course those people surround themselves with people who refer to criticism as people being bigots.
The only reason the Acolyte trailer is so disliked is bigoted "anti-woke" culture and brigading. No need to look into it at all. I think the show has a very good premise. The era in which it takes place in is called the High Republic, about 200-100 years before Phantom Menace. There have been some comics recently that take place in that era but other than that it's completely new territory
Acolyte is pure woke trash lol. It's like they took a martial arts movie and added light sabers and inclusivity crap. You fanboy's just are deathly allergic to calling crap what it is.
@@ItApproaches Boohoo, incels are deathly allergic to fun because they’re scared of women and people of color. I literally saw a reaction to the trailer where people pointed out every time a woman or person of color was on screen, it’s all you think about and convince yourselves that’s what everyone else is focused on.
@@ItApproaches LOL How could you possibly know if it's trash or not, and using the word "woke" tells me everything I need to know about you. Edit: Were you hacked or something? I can't imagine why you would be giving genuine helpful information about Tales of the Empire and the Nightsisters, then switch to blind idiotic hatred when talking about the Acolyte
Well he's watching things chronologically and has seen tales of the jedi and is currently on Bad Batch so since tales of empire takes place around that timeframe and before itll be safe to watch and line up quite well chronologically wise by the looks
Tales of the jedi, (spoiler free) You'll get to know the inquisitors soon. Besides bird man who we know nothing about. The inquisitor with the big head is the leader. He was present at bariss' speech in clone wars and was inspired by her. yes the other people were nightsisters. The main one you'll see in this is called Morgan you'll get to know her more later on. Be careful as some eps with Morgan will take place later in the timeline. The blue guy with Morgan is very important you'll get to know him later as well. The acolyte So there was 600k dislikes here's some reasons, the big one is probably the director, she has said some things in the past people are not happy with. she was also Harvey Weinstein's secretary so its been put into question how much she knew about what was going on. if you don't know google him he was a horrible man who did terrible things. she also hired people who know nothing about star wars to direct episodes. people don't want it to break canon. as KI adi mundi says its been 1000 years since the Sith went extinct so they can't see a Sith. obviously some people will just hate anything Disney and some people will label it as woke as there was only about one white guy in the trailer. most are probably tired of star wars live action being bad and this is the last straw. for some lightsabers are no longer enough to make a show good. hopefully its good but most like me are waiting to see if the show is good but expectations are low.
@@redvitproductions2829 I've edited it to remove the fact he was a "thingy" but I've left in the fact he was present because he won't find that out unless he googles it.
Yeah. It’ll be interesting to watch someone who gets introduced to Elsbeth and her past here as long as her future story isn’t spoiled. To get her past first will be a nice twist.
I have to ask this question: How is it possible that Barriss always ends up in the worst possible place? After 11 years, she returns and immediately finds herself next to Vader. Can this character ever catch a break? This is already a tradition... (We can only hope there won't be any training with Vader because he literally cut off the limbs of Inquisitors to strengthen their hatred and suffering on the dark side.) (And what is important. Barriss most likely sensed something familiar. No one has the right to know Vader's identity.) This is an extremely dangerous situation because Vader may seek revenge. Additionally, logically, he will see Barriss as a coward. But we don't know how much Anakin's past influences Vader especially in this case. It may also be completely the opposite. And now honestly, this is the most crucial event for Barriss where her fate will truly be decided. It will determine whether she becomes a villain or a hero or something between. It's important to note that Barriss is nowhere else (series, books, comics) but obviously there willl be situations where her presence would give the Empire a huge advantage. Something is going to happen there. For some reason she will be an Inquisitor for a very short time or will always be unavailable. (Barriss' number of tattoos doesn't change, and Mirialans get tattoos to mark significant events in their life. However it could mean many things in this case.) I think I've analyzed every possible ending for Barriss: 1. Let's start with the question: why is she there? Firstly, let's consider the symbolic significance of the Inquisition and Barriss and what connects them. The Inquisition was inspired by Barriss' speech, which could even be considered as the cornerstone of their establishment. In this scenario, it's nothing but a form of reckoning with the past for Barriss. From Barriss's perspective, she has become part of what she feared, "an army fighting for the dark side." She feared that the Jedi had lost their way, but now she will follow those who are truly lost. She'll be surrounded by people who might even admire her, but they are murderers, and she indirectly took part in their creation. She'll be forced to do what they do - kill, which might lead her to blame herself or even hate herself. (It's even possible that she'll be given the title of the first sister - the first one who fought and killed Jedi.) This is literally the ultimate test for Barriss. If she wants to rebuild her life and ever see Ahsoka again, she must make very important decisions here. 2. Now, what could be considered a failure and what a victory? It's crucial to understand that Barriss has lost absolutely everything, and the game will revolve around the last thing she has left - her morality. Barriss turning to the dark side wouldn't be a failure. She herself doesn't acknowledge the concept of light and dark sides; she only believes in the Force. It doesn't matter to her whether she uses the light or dark side. (It should also be remembered that Barriss is always the opposite of Ahsoka. There is a theory that the Yin Yang method was used here. For example: Ahsoka is in light, so Barriss must be in dark.) A failure would be complete indoctrination and becoming a murderer. She cannot abandon her moral code. It might sound brutal, but she must feel hatred towards herself rather than pride or ignorance. She cannot abandon her morality; otherwise, she will be lost. She will become a mindless murderer, a literal Imperial dog. (Her downfall potentially would resemble that of Dooku, who abandoned his morality for Sidious.) Another failure could be a scenario in which Barriss accepts that she deserves nothing more and humbly accepts it as punishment for everything she has done. Or she blindly follows her opinion that the Jedi are evil, not noticing the problem in the Inquisition. (Maybe even some kind of revenge for what the Jedi did to her and even for what she has to do now.) Another potential failure could be that this is some Palpatine's plan. We don't know that for sure. All we know is that instead of receiving the death penalty, Barriss ended up in a cell, and we can't be 100% sure if Palpatine cares about Barriss' fate. Maybe the title of the Emperor's hand, maybe a replacement Grand Inquisitor maybe testing Vader's reaction. We don't know. A "draw" could be considered if there are no changes, meaning that Barriss sees evil again and starts to radicalize internally to try to destroy it, just as she did in the Clone Wars. In this case, she wouldn't learn anything. Her morality would still be noble but naive and blind. It would most likely end in her death. A victory could be betrayal but in the form of desertion. Instead of fighting at all costs, she accepts the realities. She recognizes evil and accepts its existence but doesn't join it. In this case, Barriss could receive one of the most valuable lessons (how to let go), and potentially Luminara could give her this final lesson, hoping for Barriss' redemption. Yes, Luminara. We know that she died, but these are Imperial sources and, for example, Yoda was also on this list. Additionally, we know her potentially last words: "In the night, find the light" (It is also possible that Barriss will be forced to kill Luminara, but most probably this will not destroy her morality, it will only strengthen it.) And I consider this scenario to be the most likely because Barriss has huge potential. Remaining as an Inquisitor or death would be wasteing that potential. (Unless they have bigger plan for Inquisitor Barriss in the next series after Bad Bach. This potential scenario may also happen later, especially if Barriss were to meet someone from her past, for example, Ahsoka, working for the Rebellion.) One more piece of information is important: On paper, Barriss has greater Force potential than Maul, and now she will be further trained. We don't know what Barriss will do with this knowledge, but if she accepts it as part of herself while also accepting her past and Jedi teachings, we will be talking about a very strong Force user. Perhaps for the first time, we might even see a combination of Form 3 (the most defensive) with Form 7 (the most aggressive), which would make her a deadly threat to any opponent. In this scenario, she can be even compared to a quote from one of the Old Republic characters: "I fell more at one with the Force than I've ever felt. I have peace like the jedi and freedom like the sith". In my opinion, the Empire is taking a big risk because she can actually kill Inquisitors. And we saw that Barriss's morality tends to be destructive. They probably don't know this and think that Barriss just hates Jedi, but she just hates evil. Her personality is literal selflessness and the desire to protect the lives of others. (So they are potentially training their future enemy)
Perhaps, but still, don’t forget, the Emperor finds usefulness in places, and the last thing he wants is for his potential little inquisitor to be exterminated already by his apprentice, who is also doing his best to get rid of light side, which to be fair also could stem
@@darthdracul8372 Very true. It could be Palpatine's plan. Even in legends, he was interested in Barriss. It wasn't interest like Anakin, but it's possible he saw her as a Plan B or as Grand Inquisitor.
Vader should just realistically kill her with a force choke, he's evil now, he hates her for costing him his Padawan and almost ruining her...why would he let her live lol.
I beg of you to not get sucked into the online hate for things. I like that you watch things with an open mind and take it for what you see and don't bring into it any outside garbage. If you like something then that's great, if you don't then that's fine too. Allow your opinions to come about organically without influence. But please don't prejudge like too many seemingly do. Let the story unfold before you and experience it as you have been. Speculate responsibly. May the force be with you.
Yes, yes and yes.!
The lady fighting Grievous is similar to Ventress. She was from the Night Sisters to some degree. You were seeing that war from Clone Wars when Grievous went to Dathomir and attacked.
This'll definitely make things interesting going forward seeing someone introduced to Morgan in this!
8:07 Yes she is. It is Dathomir. 100% flashback to that battle
It's so weird seeing someone watch the tales of the Empire trailer without any background knowledge 😂
But yeah, if you've seen all of the Star wars content, you would basically understand everything that is happening in that trailer. I'm not gonna talk about it because spoilers (though I'm sure someone else will) but any questions you have about the trailer will be answered when you get to Rebels and the Ahsoka show, so... basically all of Star Wars.
And now, the acolyte trailer. That show takes place during the high republic, about 100 years before phantom menace. And... that's it. All we know is that the sith will pop up and jedi will be confused.
I think the trailer was a bit over hated, its just that we have no clue what to expect, so we don't really know if it was a good trailer or not. But tales of the Empire, we know all of these characters, and they are all beloved. So of course people will just like that trailer more, because we have an idea whats happening. But Acolyte, we don't.
I don't think that trailer was overhated. There isn't supposed to be a sith at all because the jedi specifically said that the sith hasn't been seen in over a thousand years in the phantom menace.
Red lightsaber aren't only used by the sith
The Acolyte is set 100 years before The Phantom Menace.
I'm so excited for Tales of the Empire! It looks absolutely amazing! Grebious looks so good with his updated CW season 7 design. I always thought it was such a shame they only used his new updated look for one intro sequence. And I do agree he looked so menacing in this and I hope they do him justice like they did in Son of Dathomir. I can't really say anything more about the rest of the characters because you will get to know them later on in future shows on your list.
As for the Acolyte trailer and why it has such a different like to dislike ratio... It's comlicated but I feel like for most people their problem is with the director and what it means for the show. Let's just say she has said some things in the past that upset a lot of Star Wars fans and she has shown no interest in respecting the world George Lucas created. If you want to you can look up more info on it, there are tons of articles and videos about it on youtube. But in a nutshell, she dosen't seem to respect or understand what Star Wars is and just wants to bring her own politics and agenda into a well established and difined IP which rubbed people the wrong way. And I definitely agree that such a big universe should be handled by someone who loves Star Wars and understands it. So because of her there is not a lot of faith in the show right now since we have seen what it looks like when Star Wars is handled by those who have no idea about it's characters and their motivations... ahem sequels ahem. But I do think that it is a bit overhated and many people have already wrote it off as trash. I will still wait and watch, then if it's bad it's bad but i'm not going to write it off as something horrible because who knows, maybe it's okay.
So whenever people ask me about this show I always think of that one Obi Wan line in CW S7: "I'm cautiously optimistic"
A quick Google search said that the Acoylate takes place 100 years before the Phantom Menance but feel free to correct me.
This will probably have something of evidence
I think you're right. And that means the only "familiar Jedi" we're likely to see are Yoda, Yaddle and Tera Sinube.
@@SunWarrior155 And Venestra Rwoh. She's a major character in the High Republic books, and one of my favourite Jedi in that era.
@@SunWarrior155Yarael Poof and Oppo Rancisis are also both Jedi Masters back then. They were on the Council for a long time.
The whole thing with the Acolyte is just how people's been swayed to hate something because some creators out there need something to show hate towards in order to get viewers and be seen by the algorithm. And considering the periode where the Acolyte takes place in, the High Republic, which happens a few hundred years before the events of the movies... Well, SOME people who are still salty that Disney removed the Old Republic from canon, saw Disney introduce the High Republic and thought "Oh, so Disney is trying to replace the beloved Old Republic with something else." Not realizing that the Old Republic takes place THOUSANDS of years before the events of the movies... Like, the Acolyte takes place around 100 years before the events of Episode 1, and replaces literally nothing established by the Old Republic, so these haters have nothing to be angry about. There's also the idea of "Oh the Sith can't be known to have returned until 100 years after this." Which people seem angry about, not realizing that there are a million ways to explain it. A dark jedi, a dark side force user, if it IS a Sith, the might silence anyone who knows about their existence at the end of the series anyways. Red lightsaber and use of the force does not HAVE to equal Sith, some people probably do not understand that. There are examples of this around already. Asajj Ventress, Savage Opress and that Inquisitor Ahsoka fought in Tales of the Jedi. None of those are Sith, yet they are force sensitive and wield red lightsabers. So no, we don't know if this will break with continuity, most likely it simply won't.
So please do not get swayed by the hate the Acolyte has received. Most of it is based upon people having been convinced by haters who spread hate trough their channels, so they get viewers and attention. Such haters don't know it, but they are actively destroying Star Wars. Don't bother with THEM. But by all means, check out the Acolyte... We don't know if it will be good or bad, it could turn out to be a masterpiece for all we know.
And Tales of the Empire? Considering how well loved tales of the Jedi were, and judging by the trailer, it looks like Tales of the Empire is going to become one of the best Star Wars short series' out there. So it looks REALLY promising. Also, no spoilers, but you will get to know more from Morgan Elsbeth in the Mandalorian season 2 and more so in the Ahsoka series... But you SHOULD have watched Rebels even before taking on those two. While as far as I can tell, Tales of the Empire should be free from Spoilers considering what you have watched, and Acolyte should be SO much free of spoilers, considering it would LITERALLY be the first thing in the timeline of Star Wars that has a canonical show connected to it.
Hi, Ben.
I know my comment is long, but I assure you, there are NO SPOILERS. I promise. I just want to give you accurate facts and thoughts about the two upcoming Star Wars shows I'm looking forward to and to tell you not to feel worried about them, specifically The Acolyte. I wrote a lot more about that series later on because I'm passionate about what the series is and will be to Star Wars.
First I just want to say I really enjoy watching your videos and appreciate the thoughtful remarks you make regarding Star Wars.
To start with Tales of the Empire, I'm very excited to see the continuation of Barriss's story from after The Clone Wars. I've been a Star Wars since I was a child but recently got fully in-depth into the universe about two years ago. Now I'm reading the (canon) books, rewatching the movies I'd seen before, watching the shows, reading the comics, audiobooks, etc. I finished Clone Wars two years ago, so I'd been eagerly waiting to see what they’d do with Barriss. I know that others have been waiting for over a decade, so I know that I don't have the right to discuss my waiting time compared to others. I'm not going to discuss the other character because you don't know her, but I'm also excited about that as well. I'm looking forward to May 4th.
For The Acolyte, I'm equally excited for the show if not more so than Tales. For clarification, the show takes place 100 years before The Phantom Menace. The movie takes place in 32 years BBY (Before the Battle of Yavin in A New Hope), so the series should be set in 132 BBY. The Acolyte is also set in the High Republic era. I won't go into further detail here in case you don't want to know. But in case you’re interested, you can search "Star Wars High Republic" online and you shouldn't find spoilers about future stories from where you are currently. It's so far in the past from the prequel era and further down the timeline in the future that you're unlikely to encounter spoilers for other content. But who knows, some people are very rude and don't care what they are posting online, so be cautious about about that. Personally, I know the High Republic extremely well, so I'm very informative about this era in Star Wars.
Moving on to the "hate" people have about The Acolyte. It's... so frustrating and annoying that people always have opinions to say about something that are not even based on any sort of factual evidence whatsoever, and can judge harshly on a show, and say that it's terrible from watching a minute and forty-six seconds trailer. It's baffling... I'm baffled by the foolery.
The "hate" is just the minority vocalizing their inaccurate assumptions about the show. The majority of Star Wars fans are actually super excited for The Acolyte for numerous reasons. But the people who aren't are just loud with their opinions, and it makes it seem like they're the majority of the fandom. There's also flat-out bigotry and discrimination people have about the casting in The Acolyte that are highly offensive, which adds to the "hate" you're hearing about, Ben. And please try not to take the like-dislike button ratio on UA-cam as something to sway your view on the show. People just hate to hate on a series and want to spew their negativity onto others with no actual assessment of the stories. People giving out false info makes others think a certain way, mostly negatively towards a project.
I know I'm being direct, so if other people who are reading my comment are offended by what I'm saying, do what you will, but don't spew inaccurate statements that hinder someone else's experience.
It's so irritating that people don't take the time to use their imagination, or basic logic in all honesty, and just blurt out the first thought they have, i.e. mostly incorrect statements. It's also incredibly rude to the creators who made numerous vocal remarks about how much fun they had making The Acolyte. And when people watch the trailer and say, "This breaks canon," don't you think that the creators of the show will also ask the same question? They know "the Sith have been extinct for a millennium," and the showrunners never said a Sith was going to be in the show. So people are wrong when they say the Sith are going to be in The Acolyte because that's incorrect; the showrunners never said that. Please, people, who behave in this manner, think before you type or speak on a matter because you may sway someone into thinking something's "bad" when they haven’t seen it yet. It's a terrible cycle.
Also, Ben, this is very important info right here to know going forward: A person who uses a red lightsaber is not synonymous with being a Sith. The Rule of Two states there can only be two Sith- a master and an apprentice. "Always two there are," Yoda says in The Phantom Menace, "no more, no less." And yes, we have seen characters so far who use the dark side and carry a red lightsaber, Ventress for example, but she doesn't hold the title of being a Sith, that's why the Jedi/Republic call her an assassin, not a Sith. And Ben, you said the word "Inquisitor" in referring to the dark-side user Ahsoka fought in Tales of the Jedi, and they also held a red lightsaber. But don't be confused, there are only two Sith in the imperial era- Sidious and Vader.
I'm not going to go into more detail because I don't want to give away something that hasn’t been stated from where you are right now in Star Wars. But please remember this because this could be very important moving forward: All Sith are dark-side users but not all dark-side users are Sith; very important to be aware of.
For people who have read this lengthy comment, I'm sorry that it's long, and thank you for taking the time to read it.
Also, Ben, keep doing an amazing job.
For those of us who have watched all the Star Wars, you’ll have to wait for our opinions on when you can watch this. Clearly with Grievous, some episodes are already pre-bad Batch season 2. You might be able to watch a few episodes soon, as long as no one spoils any plot lines of future shows.
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So basically, there’s a part where Ki-Adi-Mundi says that Sith have been extinct for a millennia, only THAT ISN’T TRUE. That line was meant to highlight the Jedi’s ignorance, unfortunately that has gone over Star Wars incels’ heads as usual bc they don’t actually watch for the story like they claim, they watch for the explosions. Qui Gon literally spots a Sith and tells the council and they respond by saying they’re extinct.. that sums up the Jedi’s ignorance. The Sith never went extinct, they just went into hiding. Also, it’s not unreasonable to believe that they’ve dismissed red lightsaber users as rogue Jedi and not Sith because Sith is a religion, just like the Nightsisters use the dark side but they are not Sith. Also this isn’t the first time this has happened, in Legends, the Sith Empire went into hiding for a few hundred years during the time of the Old Republic and invaded the Jedi temple. The same way they went into hiding during the Republic era and Sidious created Order 66. Also it’s even more confusing why people are surprised by this when the show is titled “The Acolyte” referring to a Sith Acolyte.. just like Asajj Ventress.
Also yes, red lightsabers do not mean Sith. Red lightsabers have been used by Jedi in Legends and Canon and also by Nightsisters in Legends. Adi Gallia actually has Canon comics where she used a red lightsaber, but she replaced it during the Clone Wars to separate herself from Sith like Maul when he made his return.
Lucas own word is that since 2,000 years ago, there has only been two Sith at all times.
Having dozens running around fighting Jedi is a problem...
@@willfanofmanyii3751 “two Sith at all times” he was clearly referring to Sith LORDS, following the philosophy of the Rule of Two (which is not a lore rule, it’s simply an ideology WITHIN Star Wars, not a rule OF Star Wars)
ex. Plagueis+Sidious, Sidious+Maul, Sidious+Dooku, Sidious+Vader…
however, other Sith have still existed, especially during Sidious and Dooku with Maul still living, perspective on whether they’re viewed as “legitimate” Sith is definitely a factor. Like Sidious wouldn’t consider Maul a Sith the same way Maul doesn’t consider him a real Sith. It’s subjective.
Also my reference to the Old Republic was longer than 2,000 years before the High Republic, it was around 3,000 years before. At that time there were Sith armies, obviously there weren’t Sith armies during the High Republic, but The Acolyte trailer still does not suggest this. It suggests there is a Sith in training to become a Lord. We can assume this is a Sidious, Dooku, and Asajj situation where one Sith Lord is trying to teach an assassin to gain help in overthrowing the more powerful Sith. We also don’t know how many Jedi will survive the attack of the Sith, many of them who figured out they were a Sith could be killed. Or none of them could realize they’re a Sith. The Acolyte is supposed to be an ex-padawan of Sol, so there’s a possibility Sol just thinks Mae fell to the dark side and has no idea about the Sith Lord that is seducing her to the dark side.
So at the end of the day, we just need to wait til this show actually comes out, but so far the trailer has not indicated any sign of breaking canon.
I actually really like the acolyte trailer. There seems to be a lot of criticism towards the project that is indepedent from the trailer. I personally don't know what all the citicism is about, since I don't read such news before something was released. Going into a show with an open mind makes the most fun and if it is actually that bad, I will see, but I allways have hopes to be pleasantly surprised...
From what I can tell, the hatred for The Acolyte is in protest of the creator, Lesley Headland, for her politics. Her rhetoric can be described as "woke". Also, she was one of Harvey Weinstein's assistants back in the day, but apparently never really came out strongly against him. You probably already know this, but Harvey Weinstein sexually assaulted women and was an overall predator.
There's also the issue of her interpretation of Star Wars and her view of the Jedi, which translates into the themes and messages portrayed in the show (and trailer). "This isn't about good or bad." Like, WHAT?
I'm personally not a fan of Headland's politics, and I take issue with some of her takes on Star Wars, but the trailer for The Acolyte looks pretty good. I'm cautiously optimistic. I think it deserves a fair shot.
"This isn't about good or bad" is literally the philosophy that led to Timothy Zahn writing Heir to the Empire. I don't think it's a bad thing to have a more balanced approach. Especially now with the culture war and everything where so many people see the world in black and white. Besides, the idea of the Jedi losing their way was a thing George Lucas set up in the prequels.
She literally has talked about how abusive he was and she quit after working for him for a year despite working her way up the company for several years prior to that
I do not know why but Tales of the Empire looks 1000 times better than The Acolyte... The only reason for me to watch Acolyte is Carrie-Ann Moss❤ But we will see... ! Acolyte can not be better than Bad Batch season3! Greetings from Germany
Tales of the Empire will be safe viewed once Bad Batch is over.
I dunno, we need to see it first to see if it spoils anything.
acolyte mainly disliked because there are female characters
You're objectively wrong, because Tales of the Empire also focuses on 2 female characters, and you don't see that trailer get dislike bombed.
What? Tales of the Empire is entirely about two female characters and yet it recieved overwhelming support. I just don't understand how people always arrive at the "this thing has female characters and that's why they hate it because they are sexist" logic.
@UC6kIA5jSBYMDqu3eADljotQThat’s because Barriss is a green alien and Morgan is played by an asian actress but is still an alien. They’re female aliens so incels don’t make as much of a fuss. Since The Acolyte features women of color and other people of color, Star Wars incels had to jump on it. Despite the fact that the cast is stacked with talent.
@UC6kIA5jSBYMDqu3eADljotQ You're forgetting that we're talking about bigots here. Bigots are by nature hypocritical. Granted, it's not as simple as that. But at the end of it, this is really what the far right is mad about: diversity.
Then, the fandom on that one on acolytes are hypocrites.
All of them should have a fair shot, instead of getting the guilty till proven innocent
Regarding Tales of the Jedi and the new characters:
The main character alongside Barriss will be Morgan Elsbeh:
She is the surviving Nightsister from the massacre on Dathomir carried out by Grievous. She seeks revenge and maybe option to rebuild her clan. Here, I myself don't know many things because this is a very new character.
(We see a similarity here to Barriss - both have lost everything, and presumably, their stories will unfold differently, making them opposites, much like Ahsoka and Dooku.)
10:25 It looks to me like another Dathomirian clan. I don't remember their specific names, but these clans were constantly at war with each other (that's why Ventress was given to criminals, to ensure the safety of the Nightsisters clan), and after the massacre on Dathomir, it's possible that the Separatists went further than just eliminating one clan.
2:23 Thrawn: If we consider Palpatine a genius, Thrawn is on the next level. The greatest genius and strategist of the Empire.
(After suggestion from other viewers, I reduced his description to a minimum, so I will simply say that he is one of the most interesting characters.)
2:31 Fourth Sister - We know very little about her. All we know is that she was a Jedi who joined the Inquisition and her name is Lyn.
2:50 Grand Inquisitor - The leader of the Inquisition and a literal psychopath. Barriss's speech led him to lose faith in the Jedi and deem them weak and unworthy of being the guardians of the galaxy. This motivated him to join Palpatine. He considers all Jedi teachings weak and believes that only brute force can be the leader and wield power. We see this in how he treats Barriss and others: Kill or be killed.
(Additionally, the location where he trains Barriss - the Sith language is written on the walls. Unfortunately, I cannot translate it. It is possible that this is the place under the Jedi Temple where Ashoka fought the illusion of Sidious after leaving the order, but this is speculation.)
3:51 The inquisitor next to Barriss is Marrok and it may be worth paying attention to him because he also has a mystery.
Regarding "Acolyte": We don't have a specific date. Some say it will be 200 years, others say 100, and others say 50. Personally, based on one of the characters, I lean towards 200-180.
We're talking about the end of the golden age of the Jedi and their decline leading up to the Clone Wars and their downfall.
14:14 One of the potentially known characters is Master Plo, but we don't have confirmation. Given his species' longevity, it's possible.
14:26 This is a character from the High Republic books- Vernestra Rwoh. Since she's a Mirialan, I'll just say she's the perfect version of Barriss. (because it happens in a time of peace/High Republic and not the Clone Wars.) She was knighted when she was around 15 and is now one of the most powerful Jedi and may serve as a mentor to one of the main characters.
What people don't like is that it's the beginning of a new era and there are no references, just lightsaber swinging and fight scenes. Jedi should be right after the war with the Nihils, which led to the Order's dependence on the Republic. This should be mentioned, or at least the effects should be visible. Unfortunately, there's nothing like that here. And honestly I agree, there's nothing there only fight scenes and swinging lightsabers.
Additionally, we have a red lightsaber. The first Sith to openly act against the Jedi was Darth Plagueis. It's possible it's him or the mysterious acolyte has Sith strength for some reason. However, there's one condition. Whoever sees the red lightsaber must die. Jedi live in blissful ignorance, and if someone notifies the Order about someone with a red lightsaber, it will retcon a fragment of the Phantom Menace.
"Impossible The Sith have been extinct for millennum" - Mundi
Many fans are also irritated by Disney's policy. There are only women; there are only a few men. Personally, I don't care, but I've heard interviews with the actresses, and one of them, when asked to tell us about her character, said: "She's a strong leader, Yes, Yes" - that's a red flag because the actress couldn't say anything else.
A strong female character is someone like Ahsoka, Leia or now Barriss, who is complex, develops her own personality and views, and is not always right. Fans and I fear that these characters won't be like Ahsoka but like Mary Sue definition, which is the total opposite of Ahsoka.
Lack of character development.
The character always wins and is always right.
And sometimes, they don't even have a personality.
Their moves can sometimes even break canon.
Additionally, the director is an activist, and let's say she talks too much about it in the context of her series, which is why fans are really worried about this project.
Can you not do that please? He'll discover the names and aspirations of characters in time while watching the shows. IF he has any real questions about thing that are NOT shown or saud, THEN we can answer, just don't spoil things now
@@redvitproductions2829 He wanted us to explain who these characters were. That's why he watches these trailers
@@hehu4025 Yeah but Thrawn's character will be explored in the audio comics (that he can watch if he wants) and possibly in the very Tales of the Empire show
@@redvitproductions2829 What I said is the literal minimum.
@@hehu4025 Well... I guess you're right, Sorry
Kathleen Kenedy is ruining Star Wars...Dave Filonie is the way
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You cannot watch Tales of an Empire. You will be spoiled. The Acolyte looks great. I have no idea why it's hated only reason I can think is there are too many women. A lot of Star Wars bros don't like women as leads in the show. Or too many people of color.
Acolyte is hated beacuse of the sequel/KK Crew.
Acolyte is headed by someone that doesn't deserve to touch star wars. The type that turns movies from escapist fantasy to a podium of preaching views with little to no subtlety.
Same reason I will never again watch 7/8, I never watched 9, never watched solo, is why I will not be watching the Acolyte.
Chill... It's just a show 😅
@noitora524 I'm chill lol. Just answering the question posed :p
The Acolyte trailer is over hated because of online culture war stuff, full stop. Grifters yelling how media is dying due to woke creators because the algorithms encourage outrage. Frankly I've really enjoyed your reactions because of how not engaged you are to the online star wars space and the notions of how those loudest fans feel.
There is a 'concern' that could be made on the Acolyte for POSSIBLY retconning the jedi knowing about the rise of the sith, but one thing to keep in mind is that the Acolyte takes place in the high republic era, an era that has been explored in comics and books that explains how the jedi 'lost their way'. One THEORY is that maybe the jedi covered it up, or maybe the jedi who saw the sith all died, we'll have to wait and see like everyone else!
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My best advice about HOW and WHEN you'll watch Tales of the Empire is... to not worry about it right now. You still have basically 2 whole seasons of The Bad Batch to watch before you step on that territory.
Tales of the Empire releases on May 4, by my calculations, you'll just have finished Episode 11 of Season 2. The best option I can think of is to just continue watching The Bad Batch, THEN when it releases we will watch it and tell you the exact point for you to start. There's a lot of content before a New Hope, especially if you count the two videogame which I still think you should at least react to the cutscenes.
That's all my personal take at least
You talking about Forced Unleashed right?
@@literallyagalilacegenii7.690 What? I don't get it
@@redvitproductions2829 the two video games you are referring to
@@literallyagalilacegenii7.690 No, I was refering to Jedi Fallen Order and Jedi Survivor. Why would I be referering to Force Unleashed? They aren't even canon.
About Sith being extinct: If the red saber does belong to a Sith, I would also be disappointed, but it doesn't need to be and I think that they wouldn't do such a canon breaking thing that contradicts canon that was established in one of the movies. I would assume that the red saber belongs to some Jedi that might have turned or to some new fraction that is independent from the Sith. In the show they would deal with this problem, solve it and then the statement of Sith being extinct for hundreds of years would still be true.
I haven't seen any negativity. Everyone I know, and everyone I follow, loves the Acolyte trailer and can't wait to watch it.
If there is any hate around it, I bet it's all from those Disney haters I told you about. They hate anything new. They also hate seeing any female characters in their Star Wars, or any character that aren't male, white, humans. They'll also call you a "Disney shill" if you enjoy anything. Don't pay attention to those kinds of people. Just have fun and enjoy what you enjoy.
Good question, one that you’re gonna have to wait for one month and another while for the other.
Truthfully, after the sequel, I have been enjoying things, but I’ve been having my fun knocked off by over the top hated fans.
The Jedi said the Sith were extinct... That's not true, the Jedi are ignorant, they didn't believe when Qui-Gon reported his encounter with Maul in Tatooine, when Padme accused Count Dooku for being the responsible for her murder attempts, Mace Windu said Dooku would never do that bc he was a Jedi... When Obi Wan didn't find Kamino in the Star maps and he suggested the archives were incomplete, Jocasta, the old lady who keeps the Library, said that wasn't possible, also, in Tales of The Jedi, she didn't believe Qui-Gon and said he was imagining things... As u can see, the Jedi are always wrong, they're so stupid that they build the Jedi temple in Coruscant above an old Sith sanctuary, that also helped Palpatine to cloud their vision during the Clone Wars.
About the dislikes in the trailer... Star Wars fans hating Star Wars, nothing new.
Reception towards Acolyte is very extreme because of certain people involved in the show, the remarks made by those people about the show (and about what they think the fans need), and who said people are connected to, because... ugh.
Course those people surround themselves with people who refer to criticism as people being bigots.
I recommend you to react to the Star Wars the Old Republic cinematic trailers
The only reason the Acolyte trailer is so disliked is bigoted "anti-woke" culture and brigading. No need to look into it at all. I think the show has a very good premise. The era in which it takes place in is called the High Republic, about 200-100 years before Phantom Menace. There have been some comics recently that take place in that era but other than that it's completely new territory
There’s actually also a bunch of novels that have come out over the last few years too. Adult novels, young adult novels, and middle grade novels.
350-100 years, actually.
Acolyte is pure woke trash lol. It's like they took a martial arts movie and added light sabers and inclusivity crap. You fanboy's just are deathly allergic to calling crap what it is.
@@ItApproaches Boohoo, incels are deathly allergic to fun because they’re scared of women and people of color. I literally saw a reaction to the trailer where people pointed out every time a woman or person of color was on screen, it’s all you think about and convince yourselves that’s what everyone else is focused on.
@@ItApproaches LOL
How could you possibly know if it's trash or not, and using the word "woke" tells me everything I need to know about you.
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Were you hacked or something? I can't imagine why you would be giving genuine helpful information about Tales of the Empire and the Nightsisters, then switch to blind idiotic hatred when talking about the Acolyte
Doesn't he have a bunch of shows to catch up on before watching Tales of the Empire trailer?
Well he's watching things chronologically and has seen tales of the jedi and is currently on Bad Batch so since tales of empire takes place around that timeframe and before itll be safe to watch and line up quite well chronologically wise by the looks
Tales of the jedi, (spoiler free)
You'll get to know the inquisitors soon. Besides bird man who we know nothing about.
The inquisitor with the big head is the leader. He was present at bariss' speech in clone wars and was inspired by her.
yes the other people were nightsisters.
The main one you'll see in this is called Morgan you'll get to know her more later on.
Be careful as some eps with Morgan will take place later in the timeline.
The blue guy with Morgan is very important you'll get to know him later as well.
The acolyte
So there was 600k dislikes here's some reasons,
the big one is probably the director, she has said some things in the past people are not happy with. she was also Harvey Weinstein's secretary so its been put into question how much she knew about what was going on. if you don't know google him he was a horrible man who did terrible things. she also hired people who know nothing about star wars to direct episodes.
people don't want it to break canon. as KI adi mundi says its been 1000 years since the Sith went extinct so they can't see a Sith.
obviously some people will just hate anything Disney and some people will label it as woke as there was only about one white guy in the trailer.
most are probably tired of star wars live action being bad and this is the last straw.
for some lightsabers are no longer enough to make a show good.
hopefully its good but most like me are waiting to see if the show is good but expectations are low.
Don't spoil the inquisitor with the big head for him please
@@redvitproductions2829 I've edited it to remove the fact he was a "thingy" but I've left in the fact he was present because he won't find that out unless he googles it.
Yeah. It’ll be interesting to watch someone who gets introduced to Elsbeth and her past here as long as her future story isn’t spoiled. To get her past first will be a nice twist.
I have to ask this question:
How is it possible that Barriss always ends up in the worst possible place?
After 11 years, she returns and immediately finds herself next to Vader. Can this character ever catch a break?
This is already a tradition...
(We can only hope there won't be any training with Vader because he literally cut off the limbs of Inquisitors to strengthen their hatred and suffering on the dark side.)
(And what is important. Barriss most likely sensed something familiar. No one has the right to know Vader's identity.)
This is an extremely dangerous situation because Vader may seek revenge. Additionally, logically, he will see Barriss as a coward.
But we don't know how much Anakin's past influences Vader especially in this case. It may also be completely the opposite.
And now honestly, this is the most crucial event for Barriss where her fate will truly be decided. It will determine whether she becomes a villain or a hero or something between.
It's important to note that Barriss is nowhere else (series, books, comics) but obviously there willl be situations where her presence would give the Empire a huge advantage. Something is going to happen there. For some reason she will be an Inquisitor for a very short time or will always be unavailable.
(Barriss' number of tattoos doesn't change, and Mirialans get tattoos to mark significant events in their life. However it could mean many things in this case.)
I think I've analyzed every possible ending for Barriss:
1. Let's start with the question: why is she there?
Firstly, let's consider the symbolic significance of the Inquisition and Barriss and what connects them. The Inquisition was inspired by Barriss' speech, which could even be considered as the cornerstone of their establishment. In this scenario, it's nothing but a form of reckoning with the past for Barriss.
From Barriss's perspective, she has become part of what she feared, "an army fighting for the dark side." She feared that the Jedi had lost their way, but now she will follow those who are truly lost. She'll be surrounded by people who might even admire her, but they are murderers, and she indirectly took part in their creation. She'll be forced to do what they do - kill, which might lead her to blame herself or even hate herself.
(It's even possible that she'll be given the title of the first sister - the first one who fought and killed Jedi.)
This is literally the ultimate test for Barriss. If she wants to rebuild her life and ever see Ahsoka again, she must make very important decisions here.
2. Now, what could be considered a failure and what a victory?
It's crucial to understand that Barriss has lost absolutely everything, and the game will revolve around the last thing she has left - her morality. Barriss turning to the dark side wouldn't be a failure. She herself doesn't acknowledge the concept of light and dark sides; she only believes in the Force. It doesn't matter to her whether she uses the light or dark side.
(It should also be remembered that Barriss is always the opposite of Ahsoka. There is a theory that the Yin Yang method was used here.
For example: Ahsoka is in light, so Barriss must be in dark.)
A failure would be complete indoctrination and becoming a murderer. She cannot abandon her moral code. It might sound brutal, but she must feel hatred towards herself rather than pride or ignorance. She cannot abandon her morality; otherwise, she will be lost. She will become a mindless murderer, a literal Imperial dog. (Her downfall potentially would resemble that of Dooku, who abandoned his morality for Sidious.)
Another failure could be a scenario in which Barriss accepts that she deserves nothing more and humbly accepts it as punishment for everything she has done.
Or she blindly follows her opinion that the Jedi are evil, not noticing the problem in the Inquisition.
(Maybe even some kind of revenge for what the Jedi did to her and even for what she has to do now.)
Another potential failure could be that this is some Palpatine's plan. We don't know that for sure. All we know is that instead of receiving the death penalty, Barriss ended up in a cell, and we can't be 100% sure if Palpatine cares about Barriss' fate.
Maybe the title of the Emperor's hand, maybe a replacement Grand Inquisitor maybe testing Vader's reaction. We don't know.
A "draw" could be considered if there are no changes, meaning that Barriss sees evil again and starts to radicalize internally to try to destroy it, just as she did in the Clone Wars. In this case, she wouldn't learn anything. Her morality would still be noble but naive and blind. It would most likely end in her death.
A victory could be betrayal but in the form of desertion. Instead of fighting at all costs, she accepts the realities. She recognizes evil and accepts its existence but doesn't join it. In this case, Barriss could receive one of the most valuable lessons (how to let go), and potentially Luminara could give her this final lesson, hoping for Barriss' redemption.
Yes, Luminara. We know that she died, but these are Imperial sources and, for example, Yoda was also on this list. Additionally, we know her potentially last words: "In the night, find the light"
(It is also possible that Barriss will be forced to kill Luminara, but most probably this will not destroy her morality, it will only strengthen it.)
And I consider this scenario to be the most likely because Barriss has huge potential. Remaining as an Inquisitor or death would be wasteing that potential.
(Unless they have bigger plan for Inquisitor Barriss in the next series after Bad Bach. This potential scenario may also happen later, especially if Barriss were to meet someone from her past, for example, Ahsoka, working for the Rebellion.)
One more piece of information is important:
On paper, Barriss has greater Force potential than Maul, and now she will be further trained. We don't know what Barriss will do with this knowledge, but if she accepts it as part of herself while also accepting her past and Jedi teachings, we will be talking about a very strong Force user. Perhaps for the first time, we might even see a combination of Form 3 (the most defensive) with Form 7 (the most aggressive), which would make her a deadly threat to any opponent.
In this scenario, she can be even compared to a quote from one of the Old Republic characters: "I fell more at one with the Force than I've ever felt. I have peace like the jedi and freedom like the sith".
In my opinion, the Empire is taking a big risk because she can actually kill Inquisitors. And we saw that Barriss's morality tends to be destructive. They probably don't know this and think that Barriss just hates Jedi, but she just hates evil. Her personality is literal selflessness and the desire to protect the lives of others.
(So they are potentially training their future enemy)
Perhaps, but still, don’t forget, the Emperor finds usefulness in places, and the last thing he wants is for his potential little inquisitor to be exterminated already by his apprentice, who is also doing his best to get rid of light side, which to be fair also could stem
@@darthdracul8372 Very true. It could be Palpatine's plan. Even in legends, he was interested in Barriss. It wasn't interest like Anakin, but it's possible he saw her as a Plan B or as Grand Inquisitor.
Vader should just realistically kill her with a force choke, he's evil now, he hates her for costing him his Padawan and almost ruining her...why would he let her live lol.
It's about my 5th time seeing the Tales of Empire trailer, and it still almost brings me to tears how beautiful it is. 🥲Super HYPED!!!