I don't get why this channel doesn't have 500k+ subs. I love it when there's a new JC upload. Especially the long ones that are far better than any of the megabuck movies, or anything cable TV has to offer. Who else can say they needed both the "wet and dry vac" option on the same engine rebuild? 🤔 😂 Looking forward to pt.2
Hi James, I am an Australian living in Thailand . I have been watching your videos for about a year now. Your presentation technique is unique. Make an excellent teacher in a trade school. I have always struggle with replacing the rope on pull starters with getting the tension right. Watched you it an realized I was doing it back to front. All my starter cords return correctly.Your kids are very lucky to have you as their father. Thanks
I do always like seeing attempts to repair (or learn from) stuff that is otherwise beyond commercially viable repairs. That is, someone who runs a small engine shop isn't going to be able to fix a seized, neglected, water logged engine at a price that turns a profit. But hobbyists and diyers always can at least learn if not save something like that - I always like when your channel tries to fix or at least post-mortem and learn from things that are a few steps beyond what most people would try to fix. Also it helps show that things can be fixed way more often than people think - most people assume something can't be fixed just because there isn't a repair shop offering services for that repair. All it means is that someone can't make money fixing it, it doesn't mean that someone can't save money by fixing it
That's so true. I work on lawn mowers, one thing I have found is with idler pulleys. The bearing goes bad. A new pulley cost usually around $15-$35. What I do is drill out the pop rivets, or spot welds, take the 2 halves apart, replace the bearing. I use nuts and bolts to put back together. Some people claim it take too long to do. I have found it takes about 30 minutes. However, the next time the bearing needs changed, it only takes about 15 minutes. I buy the bearings on line 10 for about $18 so the bearing is less than $2 each. They are number 6203. Tractor Supply carry them about $12 each. Most blade spindles use the same bearing as well. Just take the shaft out knock the bearing out, knock a new bearing in (2) then reassemble.
@@bertgrau3934 I do the exact same thing, it takes less time than going to a store to buy it or even going online and taking the time to shop for the right one from a reliable enough source (to not get absolute garbage)
Keep these amazing videos coming! You are the best channel on UA-cam and I watch a ton of videos on topics from cars to economy updates and yours are the ones I most look forward to seeing. It's probably because I love small engine repair but also I learn something new every time. Thanks!
with all the crusty stuff you get in, you should invest in a dry ice blasting machine. It is more gentle on the surfaces, but will clean them up nicely. I admire your patience when working on projects. I really enjoy watching your videos. It inspires confidence that no problem is too big to solve. Looking forward to part two.
When I saw that water running out, I just new it was going to be expensive. Thank you for teaching the younger guys what to look for and how the rotating assembly comes apart.
I love how you just dive into it and explain it all so anyone can understand it. On the other side, if you ever got tired of doing UA-cam, you could definitely be a commentator for Golf..... LOL
Tell your son good job on hitting the valves at the right time, As my dad used to say (when I nod my head you hit it ) Couldn't understand why he never let me work with him again. Gord
I really like to watch you doing the small engine generators and mowers. I also watch "CarsandCameras" doing a little more performance small engines. I think this is a pretty nice frame set up for younger kids and a slight increase in performance is cool. C&C would have put a "Predator" on it, turbocharged it, and been smoking the tires. Something to look forward to when the kids get older. I just play with my mowers so both of you are fun to watch. Keep it up and keep the kid involved, which also is great!!
I’m a newbie but can’t wait to see the rest of this project. So far this is my favorite video that you’ve posted, (The Honda EU2000i is a close second). It’s cool when you let your son help you out. Great parenting. Your editing, attention to production detail and sound is amazing. Thanks for everything!
Sounds like a great idea James enjoy the fact that you’re making a double feature video out of it. Enjoy watching your build. You do a great job and I noticed a lot of the tools you have are a lot of the same tools I own as well even the torque wrench that you have is the same exact torque wrench as I have and I just think that’s amazing. 😊
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suprised someone threw this out, even with the engine being that messed up you could probably just bolt on a harbourfreight one for like 200$
Great video James. Overcoming many problems as usual. Maybe the following comment about the lake is true, ha ha ha. You and your son will have "Team Condon" to enter t wo go-carts in some racing competitions. All the Best to you from Australia.
I'm glad that you found James channel at a young age. There's a lot of useful things to be learned here-even at my age [65]. One of them is learning how to trace a problem back to the source. Solving an issue with the least amount of trouble shooting saves a lot of time, $$$, and frustration.
After watching one of your videos using an impact driver, I bought one and am amazed at the power of that small impact driver. Mine is a Dewalt. Thanks.
That engine is easily saved. A bit of surface rust isn't going to hurt it. Its not that hard to re-face the valves and seats. Clone carb, rings, and free up/reface valves/seats. Love your content.
The easy spin starting on those briggs engines was an extra small lobe on the cam shaft that would hold the intake valve open just a bit. I have filed off the extra lobe and wow what a difference in HP those engines would make. I told a guy I worked with and he did it to a cart his kid was racing, he won all the races and they even took the engine apart trying to make sure the engine was stock and no one ever discovered what he had done. LOL
James, very nice tear down and pre inspection as well as outcome. Would be a good rebuild if cost effective on part replacement. Waiting to see final results with motor and new improvements. Keep posting. Tks Michael.
Engine whisperer at work... Chuckled at the valve exercise resemblance to the old Whack-A-Mole carnival game. 😊. For me, after rusty stuff is freed up, adding WD-40 while moving things seems to work well. The interfaces "bleed" rust and motion becomes easier quickly. I have no idea of the chemistry, but it seems reliable.
Very entertaining video. I'm sure i am not the only one who would have liked to see the original engine repaired and starting, but sometimes it is not possible / worth the cost
You might want to try kroil and/or CRC Freeze off. Both are great products to get rust loosened up. Usually when I've been working on go-carts that need engines I buy a pressure washer. The older rigid w/ Subaru motors and cat pumps are great commercial duty motors and easy to hook up. A lot of pressure washer motors have non-adjustable throttles but can always be modified to work.
Thanks for the engine post mortem. Considering how much water had entered the engine, it is amazing that only the damaged intake valve seat made it DOA.
Every time you rotated the engine trying to get the valves unstuck, the crunching, grinding sounds gave me anxiety. 🥶Great video! Kind of like watching an old horror movie!
Wow, I have not seen an engine with so much water inside. I am surprised how little rust was inside the engine considering the amount of water. We cannot save everything, as you said, the parts are too expensive. I look forward to the next part.
Hello James: Your patience and perseverance showing up again with the caution you took disassembling the old Briggs. As a fellow hobbyist and self confessed motor enthusiasts. I have a challenge for you. I have taken many small engines in as bad or worse condition than the one you were working with, and brought them back to life. My challenge should you decide to accept it Mr Codone is to put the Briggs back in running condition only using the parts that came with it. IE free up existing rings, clean up existing valve seat and valves. Etc. Replacing the gaskets & seals with new is acceptable. As is replacing the rings if they can not be freed up without breaking them. Will it run like a new engine. Definetly not. Could you put it on an old machine and have it work? My personal track record says yes you can. "NO this message will not self destruct should you decide to accept the challenge" Either way this viewer will continue to enjoy your videos. I just hope you take the challenge keep up the good work.
Here’s something you may want to remember on future engine videos. When you’re spinning the engine over with the spark plug lead detached. You really should ground it out because the fires every revolution.Since it can’t find its way to ground the coil internally arcs to ground. If you do it long enough, it’ll carbon track inside the coil and the coil will become weak if not completely Useless. It’s always best to have Spark lead connected to a ground when you’re turning the engine over. Especially at high-speed with a drill.
With an inductive ignition coil this is definitely a concern, if the ignition is CDI it's probably fine. I'm not sure which type these all-in-one coils are.
I like that Cart , it has potential :) Btw. My favorite "Penetration Oil" is ordinary Two Stroke Oil. It's not the fastest but work's extremely well ! And it's relatively cheap to ! For the Engine ! Swap it to a 10Hp Temu Diesel engine 😁
Good Video Jim it's a shame people let that engine get into that condition ,if your child doesn't ride it any more sell it rather than let it sit outside to become junk ,unless you have the exhaust valve seat replaced the block is junk
Don't know what they cost now, but I've used a cheap valve seat cutter the car shop I worked at had. IIRC it was made for air-cooled VW's but it fit other engines. Probably came from JC Whitney- now I'm showing my age!
I had similar thoughts to you two. Someone drove it into water, then hauled it out and instead of taking action to drain the water, they just left it as it was.
@@melkiorwiseman5234 Never attribute to malice what can be explained by stupidity... Something as simple as a broken starter rope can lead to all sort of stupidity.. like removing a sparkplug and leaving it out in the rain for years...
@@bobwhite4671oh yes, at some point during that disassembly, I'd a trashed something trying to pull it apart.......but James IS......the Briggsmaster😂. Cheers Jim for yet another fix.😂
Yes, replacing an engine like this would be easy, but nothing beats the character of one of these old Briggs & Stratton engines. There are definitely options to make more power from an engine like this.
What a shame, James. All that time you've put into this, just to find out that it's going to cost way too much to be viable. Still, you'll find a use for those parts; over time. Thanks for sharing.
While watching you go through that old engine I was reminded of the Stephen King book/movie 'Pet Sematery'. Sometimes dead things are better left in the ground. :) Seriously .. was surprised at how clean the inside of the engine was after that level of abuse/neglect. The bottom end would have cleaned up very well.
The internals look dirty and slightly rusty but salvageable. Nice find. Little engine should be A runner with some cleaning and parts. It would cost some but great video man.
All of this could have been prevented with a garbage bag. 26:51 Reminds me of a Wack-A-Mole game. You should try Evapo-Rust. At least you don't have to pay for the labor.
I ended up soaking the piston and carb in evaporust. The rings and throttle/choke plates freed up, but one of the rings were broken. Piston is reusable with new rings. The internals of the carb had severe oxidation of the aluminum and was a total loss.
What I find just as amazing as your engine repair knowledge is your willingness to take on engines this far gone.
The best tool you have to date is that pneumatic table! What a back saver!
i found one on Amazon im going to order...should help my bad hip and knee
I don't get why this channel doesn't have 500k+ subs. I love it when there's a new JC upload. Especially the long ones that are far better than any of the megabuck movies, or anything cable TV has to offer. Who else can say they needed both the "wet and dry vac" option on the same engine rebuild? 🤔 😂 Looking forward to pt.2
Hi James, I am an Australian living in Thailand . I have been watching your videos for about a year now. Your presentation technique is unique. Make an excellent teacher in a trade school. I have always struggle with replacing the rope on pull starters with getting the tension right. Watched you it an realized I was doing it back to front. All my starter cords return correctly.Your kids are very lucky to have you as their father. Thanks
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What a great dad. The patience you show and positive outlook you have are commendable. Thanks for your hard work so we can enjoy the content.
I do always like seeing attempts to repair (or learn from) stuff that is otherwise beyond commercially viable repairs. That is, someone who runs a small engine shop isn't going to be able to fix a seized, neglected, water logged engine at a price that turns a profit. But hobbyists and diyers always can at least learn if not save something like that - I always like when your channel tries to fix or at least post-mortem and learn from things that are a few steps beyond what most people would try to fix. Also it helps show that things can be fixed way more often than people think - most people assume something can't be fixed just because there isn't a repair shop offering services for that repair. All it means is that someone can't make money fixing it, it doesn't mean that someone can't save money by fixing it
A little knowledge gained can pay huge dividends if not then, in the future.
“Just because someone can’t make money fixing it doesn’t means someone can’t save money fixing it” is now part of my daily vocabulary
That's so true. I work on lawn mowers, one thing I have found is with idler pulleys. The bearing goes bad. A new pulley cost usually around $15-$35. What I do is drill out the pop rivets, or spot welds, take the 2 halves apart, replace the bearing. I use nuts and bolts to put back together. Some people claim it take too long to do. I have found it takes about 30 minutes. However, the next time the bearing needs changed, it only takes about 15 minutes. I buy the bearings on line 10 for about $18 so the bearing is less than $2 each. They are number 6203. Tractor Supply carry them about $12 each. Most blade spindles use the same bearing as well. Just take the shaft out knock the bearing out, knock a new bearing in (2) then reassemble.
@@bertgrau3934 I do the exact same thing, it takes less time than going to a store to buy it or even going online and taking the time to shop for the right one from a reliable enough source (to not get absolute garbage)
i think your friend Jason pranked you. He threw this kart into a lake for a month, retrieved it and sent it to you to mess with you.
Keep these amazing videos coming! You are the best channel on UA-cam and I watch a ton of videos on topics from cars to economy updates and yours are the ones I most look forward to seeing. It's probably because I love small engine repair but also I learn something new every time. Thanks!
I can't wait to see how it turns out. A whole lot of fun is on the way.
Haha, gave me a pretty good chuckle with the slow, dramatic zoom in as the cylinder head was coming off. 👍
with all the crusty stuff you get in, you should invest in a dry ice blasting machine. It is more gentle on the surfaces, but will clean them up nicely. I admire your patience when working on projects. I really enjoy watching your videos. It inspires confidence that no problem is too big to solve. Looking forward to part two.
Great job so far! Can’t wait for part 2.
When I saw that water running out, I just new it was going to be expensive. Thank you for teaching the younger guys what to look for and how the rotating assembly comes apart.
That’s a good set of extra hands helping you, Dad. Good stuff.
Great video Jim, your patience is amazing, it’s a shame the old Briggs is too far gone. Looking forward to part two.
I love how you just dive into it and explain it all so anyone can understand it. On the other side, if you ever got tired of doing UA-cam, you could definitely be a commentator for Golf..... LOL
Wow. A pity. I think somebody drove it into a creek and then failed to clean it up. Interesting job! Thanks for sharing! Stay Healthy!
Tell your son good job on hitting the valves at the right time, As my dad used to say (when I nod my head you hit it ) Couldn't understand why he never let me work with him again. Gord
These videos are my relaxation therapy after work. Just top notch content and info from a real craftsman. Thank you James
Dang! I thought for sure you’d get one of those valve seat reaming tools and a new valve and keep going! This isn’t the James we know and love! 😉😂🔧👍
I really like to watch you doing the small engine generators and mowers. I also watch "CarsandCameras" doing a little more performance small engines. I think this is a pretty nice frame set up for younger kids and a slight increase in performance is cool. C&C would have put a "Predator" on it, turbocharged it, and been smoking the tires. Something to look forward to when the kids get older. I just play with my mowers so both of you are fun to watch. Keep it up and keep the kid involved, which also is great!!
Always educational to see the not so good engines. Teaches us all a lot. Well done, keep it up Sir.
I’m a newbie but can’t wait to
see the rest of this project. So far this is my favorite video that you’ve posted, (The Honda EU2000i is a close second). It’s cool when you let your son help you out. Great parenting. Your editing, attention to production detail and sound is amazing. Thanks for everything!
Sounds like a great idea James enjoy the fact that you’re making a double feature video out of it. Enjoy watching your build. You do a great job and I noticed a lot of the tools you have are a lot of the same tools I own as well even the torque wrench that you have is the same exact torque wrench as I have and I just think that’s amazing. 😊
suprised someone threw this out, even with the engine being that messed up you could probably just bolt on a harbourfreight one for like 200$
Another great vid James and great to see junior Condon start his apprenticeship with you. Look forward to part 2.
Great video James. Overcoming many problems as usual. Maybe the following comment about the lake is true, ha ha ha. You and your son will have "Team Condon" to enter t wo go-carts in some racing competitions. All the Best to you from Australia.
Hi I watch your UA-cam because I learn for you, I want to be mechanic when I grow up thank u for doing videos like this.
I'm glad that you found James channel at a young age. There's a lot of useful things to be learned here-even at my age [65]. One of them is learning how to trace a problem back to the source. Solving an issue with the least amount of trouble shooting saves a lot of time, $$$, and frustration.
After watching one of your videos using an impact driver, I bought one and am amazed at the power of that small impact driver. Mine is a Dewalt. Thanks.
I like the small engine variety you've got on this channel. Well, the variety of applications for these small engines at the very least.
Well, James finally tied into one like I always end up getting. Not fixable. He sure gave it the old college try, for sure.
Cannot save them all.
That engine is easily saved. A bit of surface rust isn't going to hurt it. Its not that hard to re-face the valves and seats. Clone carb, rings, and free up/reface valves/seats. Love your content.
Interesting find James. Can't wait for part deux. Thank you for posting
Awesome video, James. Lovely go, Kart. Knowing you the finished product will have spot lights on it and electric start
The easy spin starting on those briggs engines was an extra small lobe on the cam shaft that would hold the intake valve open just a bit. I have filed off the extra lobe and wow what a difference in HP those engines would make. I told a guy I worked with and he did it to a cart his kid was racing, he won all the races and they even took the engine apart trying to make sure the engine was stock and no one ever discovered what he had done. LOL
James, very nice tear down and pre inspection as well as outcome.
Would be a good rebuild if cost effective on part replacement.
Waiting to see final results with motor and new improvements.
Keep posting.
Tks Michael.
10 minutes in and I'm thinking, "If James gets this engine running, he is the Master!"
Hey James
I so enjoy your videos, I look forward to next week.
Currently watching you from YINCHUAN NINGXIA CHINA
Engine whisperer at work... Chuckled at the valve exercise resemblance to the old Whack-A-Mole carnival game. 😊. For me, after rusty stuff is freed up, adding WD-40 while moving things seems to work well. The interfaces "bleed" rust and motion becomes easier quickly. I have no idea of the chemistry, but it seems reliable.
Cool videos. Really enjoy watching you work
Very entertaining video. I'm sure i am not the only one who would have liked to see the original engine repaired and starting, but sometimes it is not possible / worth the cost
James, just wanted to say I have learned so much from watching your videos. I really enjoy learning about the generators.
Glad you like them!
Thanks again for sharing I really enjoy this channel. Looking forward to seeing the next video on this buggy.
You might want to try kroil and/or CRC Freeze off. Both are great products to get rust loosened up. Usually when I've been working on go-carts that need engines I buy a pressure washer. The older rigid w/ Subaru motors and cat pumps are great commercial duty motors and easy to hook up. A lot of pressure washer motors have non-adjustable throttles but can always be modified to work.
Thanks for the engine post mortem. Considering how much water had entered the engine, it is amazing that only the damaged intake valve seat made it DOA.
Every time you rotated the engine trying to get the valves unstuck, the crunching, grinding sounds gave me anxiety. 🥶Great video! Kind of like watching an old horror movie!
I reallly think you could re-use that air filter.
Благодарю Джеймс за новое видео. Смотрю ваши ролики из России 😊
James thank you for the information keep up the great work you are doing 💯👏👍👍🥇🥇 see you on the next video
Wow, I have not seen an engine with so much water inside. I am surprised how little rust was inside the engine considering the amount of water.
We cannot save everything, as you said, the parts are too expensive.
I look forward to the next part.
Hello James: Your patience and perseverance showing up again with the caution you took disassembling the old Briggs. As a fellow hobbyist and self confessed motor enthusiasts. I have a challenge for you. I have taken many small engines in as bad or worse condition than the one you were working with, and brought them back to life. My challenge should you decide to accept it Mr Codone is to put the Briggs back in running condition only using the parts that came with it.
IE free up existing rings, clean up existing valve seat and valves. Etc. Replacing the gaskets & seals with new is acceptable. As is replacing the rings if they can not be freed up without breaking them. Will it run like a new engine. Definetly not. Could you put it on an old machine and have it work? My personal track record says yes you can. "NO this message will not self destruct should you decide to accept the challenge" Either way this viewer will continue to enjoy your videos. I just hope you take the challenge keep up the good work.
❤ THANK YOU ❤
Thank you so much!!
You missed your opportunity there James.
At 16:40 when that head came off you should have said "I hope this video helps someone, thanks for watching".
Lol
Looking forward to part 2.
The patience of Job. Interesting study though.
I think that's less mud and more like the engine reverting back to Iron ore. Pity Cody's Lab isn't around he'd be able to smelt it for you.
Love the channel James 🥰 I watch all your videos. IMHO the unit was underwater 🤣 Cheers from Alberta
dang James...that thing fought you at every step! but great video..thank you
Very nice forensic analysis. Waiting for part 2. I will send you the promised email...
Saludos from Mexico
Enjoyed the video, James.
Here’s something you may want to remember on future engine videos. When you’re spinning the engine over with the spark plug lead detached. You really should ground it out because the fires every revolution.Since it can’t find its way to ground the coil internally arcs to ground. If you do it long enough, it’ll carbon track inside the coil and the coil will become weak if not completely Useless. It’s always best to have Spark lead connected to a ground when you’re turning the engine over. Especially at high-speed with a drill.
With an inductive ignition coil this is definitely a concern, if the ignition is CDI it's probably fine. I'm not sure which type these all-in-one coils are.
A man watches a gallon of water pour from a crankcase-followed by a little oil. That man says he has hope. 😅
I actually laughed. ‘Things are looking up!’
I like that Cart , it has potential :)
Btw. My favorite "Penetration Oil" is ordinary Two Stroke Oil. It's not the fastest but work's extremely well !
And it's relatively cheap to !
For the Engine !
Swap it to a 10Hp Temu Diesel engine 😁
Good Video Jim it's a shame people let that engine get into that condition ,if your child doesn't ride it any more sell it rather than let it sit outside to become junk ,unless you have the exhaust valve seat replaced the block is junk
Can’t wait till next Friday 👍👍
Another classic with great information.😊
What a great project! :)
Super project for anyone to learn from. Congrats!
Don't know what they cost now, but I've used a cheap valve seat cutter the car shop I worked at had. IIRC it was made for air-cooled VW's but it fit other engines. Probably came from JC Whitney- now I'm showing my age!
That engine has all the signs of having been in a flood.
Or a creek
I had similar thoughts to you two.
Someone drove it into water, then hauled it out and instead of taking action to drain the water, they just left it as it was.
@@melkiorwiseman5234
Never attribute to malice what can be explained by stupidity...
Something as simple as a broken starter rope can lead to all sort of stupidity..
like removing a sparkplug and leaving it out in the rain for years...
This guy is a top notch mechanic with unbelievable amount of patience.
@@bobwhite4671oh yes, at some point during that disassembly, I'd a trashed something trying to pull it apart.......but James IS......the Briggsmaster😂. Cheers Jim for yet another fix.😂
Yes, replacing an engine like this would be easy, but nothing beats the character of one of these old Briggs & Stratton engines.
There are definitely options to make more power from an engine like this.
Amazing... lucky it was full of water really slowed the formation of rust
To be honest,a engine swap is the easiest and fastest solution, but it was interesting to See,how far the rust damage goes.
another educational video james!
James is starting a second channel called, I Do Minibikes...
What a shame, James. All that time you've put into this, just to find out that it's going to cost way too much to be viable. Still, you'll find a use for those parts; over time. Thanks for sharing.
Can't wait James 😊
Looking forward to part deux
Enjoyed the video. Thanks for sharing
And with tonight's episode we travel to the Twilight Zone of I Do Cars damage!!! You sir, are man of great patience and perseverance.
While watching you go through that old engine I was reminded of the Stephen King book/movie 'Pet Sematery'. Sometimes dead things are better left in the ground. :)
Seriously .. was surprised at how clean the inside of the engine was after that level of abuse/neglect. The bottom end would have cleaned up very well.
Is that sticker on the chain guard a reference to the song "I can't drive 55" by Sammy Hagar? That would date it to 1984 if so.
Henceforth shall be known as the aqua kart ☝️ 😆 ✌️🤙
In that case, it needs a paint job. I'm recommending aquamarine.
The internals look dirty and slightly rusty but salvageable. Nice find. Little engine should be A runner with some cleaning and parts. It would cost some but great video man.
An excellent candidate for a used engine or 6.5 hp from harbor freight fot $149.00
I did not think a filter could degrade like that. Ever.
James with some magic has all the answers to your question 😂
nice video cant wait for the rest.
I’m thinking of the line from the original Star Trek:
He’s dead, Jim.
I’ve never seen you beat on an engine like that before. I was frightened.
That motor looked like it went down with the Titanic😮
No kidding. My first thought was ‘who’s the Uboat commander?!
Am thinking flooded out when air filter imploded good bones though be safe 🎉🎉😊😊
Awesome, thank you for sharing GOD bless
Enjoyed as usual !
Can’t wait for part 2….engine looks like it was in a flood possibly.
Great job.
Those kids from Vietnam making restoration videos would have had that rusty engine back and running for sure...
Great channel….
If nothing else, this was a tutorial in the four-stroke piston-and-valves action dance.
you must be a fun dad
All of this could have been prevented with a garbage bag. 26:51 Reminds me of a Wack-A-Mole game. You should try Evapo-Rust. At least you don't have to pay for the labor.
I ended up soaking the piston and carb in evaporust. The rings and throttle/choke plates freed up, but one of the rings were broken. Piston is reusable with new rings. The internals of the carb had severe oxidation of the aluminum and was a total loss.