It was difficult for me to get one in .357, since 45-70 is almost impossible to find and overly expensive in my country (Spain). Only problem I see with mine is the stiffness of the loading gate, since I cannot use it enough to soften it.
I have one as well…I bought the new one yesterday and it feels like a toy compared to the original dark series….the new one doesn’t come with a sling like the og version…doesn’t have a large loop…mine came with a thread protector that didn’t even fit the damn gun, the muzzle brake wasn’t even screwed on right, the screw was missing for the hammer extension so I can’t even use it….you know you’ve got a paid off video when someone says Ruger put Marlin back on the map or pretty much anything positive about the new marlins….their junk compared to what we were getting just 5 years ago and before
@@southport65 I just wanna be clear that I haven’t shot it yet…Im very disappointed with the gun compared to my old one but I will make a video on it soon because I need to make sure that people get an unpaid review of this gun since the cost is upwards of $2500 right now which is not worth it at all, that’s just absolutely absurd to me
Nice looking rifle. The one thing that has been lost that made the lever action Americas rifle is the fact they were once affordable. Many 30-30 lever actions hit the deer woods because you could buy them at your local department store or hardware store at a decent price. That has certainly been lost with the Ruger/Marlin era. This particular model even takes the route of the cheaper Cerakote finish and injection molded plastic furniture. Doesn't seem to transfer to the bottom line however. And I don't get the obsession with the 45-70 cartridge choice either. I had higher hopes with this rebirth but it doesn't look like the focus was really on making it an American icon again. I used to think Henry was the rich man's lever action. Ruger came along and said you ain't seen nothing yet.
I made mistake of selling my Ruger .44 magnum semi-auto carbine. I dont regret it, I sold it to buy a Benelli Super Nova, I didnt own a shotgun at the time, and I wasnt thrilled with the tube fed. It was gnarly truck gun but no magazine wouldnt make it very effective when seconds matter. I made a video on it like 15yrs ago and it still gets comments on the regular, people really like them. This Marlin looks like a winner, at least i thought so till I looked at the price. I think Id be happier with a used Spear lol.
Torx screws. Great idea. Unlike my Henry in 44 magnum, were the slot screws come loose after 18 shots and must be tightened up, or they will fall out and jam up the rifle. Definitely going to trade up to a Marlin. Love that Ruger parent company.
Ruger really has preserved the name of Marlin with outstanding workmanship with the lever actions. I can’t wait to get the 30-30, but since quality takes time and they are in high demand, I understand why it’s taking a while to show up at the dealers.
Pretty cool. I’ve got the trapper and want to keep it pristine. This dark series but in 30-30 is one I’m going to look into, sometime in 2024. $1300 is a bit pricey but decking out a SBL or Trapper with Ranger Point products will bring the total cost north of that $1300. Thank you for the review.
Picked mine up last Tuesday. Very first, brand new, I mean spitting brand new rifle, I've ever owned. Made a shirt video shooting it and so far, can't complain.
@@Jblandon162I paid 1240 for mine, but it's broken now. The front end points where screws go into to hold the handguard in BROKE!!!. waiting for marlin to respond
Remington started the Dark Series and made their butt and forearm stock out of Walnut. Painted with Black Spyder paint. The lever gun had heft and was tough as nails. Ruger makes theirs like the cheaper copy cat Henry made with plastic stocks just like this one made by Ruger!! The Remington Dark Series lever guns sold for around $730. This was only four years ago!!
Very nice Sootch, i love lever-action guns, since i was a little boy i was always fascinated by the Wild West legends, i am very proud to see that you keep this tradition alive. Your Channel will always have my like, you do an amazing work, glad to see that there a still an army of patriots ready to fight for freedom, cheers from Brazil.
I herd word that now that Ruger has bought Marlin, I herd that Marlin will be making side by side shotguns using the L.C Smith brand. It makes since because Ruger is the main sponsor for CASS (Cowboy Action Sport Shotimg ). If it’s true, it will be a wise move on Ruger/ Marlin.
@@kybbe112Why do they even release cool shit when they’re not gonna make any? Or maybe a handful of them and you find one, one time, in an overpriced fudd shop in the middle of boonefucknowhere
Ruger and Marlin, are both, part of firearms Americana! And these new rifles are awesome! Its hard not to run get one! I thought i'd never want another lever action, until now!
Lotta good places to get it you just have to know where to look, a few places where I live carry 45-70 regularly. Online shopping is easy breezy, PSA and SGAmmo are my usual go toos
I definitely love Ruger's guns, as the GP100 in .357 Magnum (which ol' Sootch had done a video of) is my favorite of theirs. so with that said i'm actually planning on buying this rifle for my 45th birthday (sooner if they get them in-stock and the price lowers somewhat)
I like my gen. 1 Remington Dark series much better. A few Ranger Point Precision upgrades and I think it's a superior rifle to the new Ruger made ones. I do like the looks of the new Ruger / Marlin Trapper though.
Oh no, enough with the 45-70 's!!!! We're not gonna hunt down Godzilla. Ruger, give us a Marlin SBL in .357 Mag. already. Not a 1894! A nice, ergonomic, stainless steel SBL in .357 Magnum. It can't be that hard.
Oh that is a beautiful thumper! I've been looking to add a lever action to the safe, I absolutely love the manual action and, if I'm honest, the wild west nostalgia 🤠
The only downside to Ruger buying Marlin is that we'll never see the Marlin semiautos again as they'll canabalize Ruger products. The lever actions will be great though
Looks like the Industry Gearing up for the next AWB . No Pistol Grip , no Forward Vertical Grip , no Detachable Magazine the Picatinny rail is the spoiler alert .
I’m not fond of the polymer stock and tactical fore end on a lever gun… some dark grey wood furniture would be sick… but I’m glad marlin is stepping up quality
I want hte 38 357 with all that... but I don't want it tactical black. I'd take differnet colours. Gimm a purple one. or two tone black and silver. realistically though, I thinki can take the back and fore and paint those separately maybe
That fat lever saddle is sweet! I'm a fan of everything except the funky buttstock and the price. In 1980, I walked into a Kmart in Rubidoux, Ca and paid $199 for a Marlin lever in 357cal. I still carry it while walking my fence line nearly every day.
Yeah, these load are easy on the shoulder but their field dynamic rounds are pretty stout. I have some Winchester Bear Claw 45-70 that will rock your world! 🤣
Great channel and video, there's a couple videos that mention rust on these dark series rifles. Apparently they started to rust in the safe, what's your thoughts on this?
Love my Marlins, only problem with the Marlin 45/70 is the fact they use micro grooving for the rifling, so you lose a lot of accuracy if you use bigger loadings with lead bullets. You have to keep the load fairly low unless you are using jacketed rounds.
The new Marlins made in Mayodan, NC do *NOT* have microgroove rifling. They also have hammer forged barrels. Marlin used button rifling IIRC. That said, I don’t have any problems with microgroove rifling unless I try to push lead bullets too fast.
@@craigfinley2507 try an internet search for “lead bullets with microgroove rifling”. The short version is that microgroove rifling tends to get more lead deposits in the barrel, particularly when lead bullets are pushed past a certain velocity. That velocity depends on caliber and hardness of the lead alloy used. A gas check can help.
Marlin went away from Micro Groove rifling many years ago (before Remington purchased them), moving over to "Ballard-style" cut rifling on .45-70s. No Ruger-produced Marlin has Micro Groove rifling.
Always great videos, I value your time. I have a question. You are doing a deliberate cock to fully engage the mid cock. Is this a part of the break in process, or is it the nature of the nature of the flat tipped ammo to jam if you are in Rifleman speed mode?
hich do you recommend in 45-70 for hunting. Marlin (Ruger made) Guide gun or one of the Henry 45-70 like the Big Boy side loading gate etc? What are your thoughts between the Marlin and Henry?
Years ago I worked at Marlins when they were on Willow st, New Haven, CT. and then No. Haven, CT.
I have a Marlin Dark “Remlin” in 45-70. Manufacture date 2020. Can’t fault it. Love it.
Those are gonna go up in value. Hold on to that 👍
It was difficult for me to get one in .357, since 45-70 is almost impossible to find and overly expensive in my country (Spain).
Only problem I see with mine is the stiffness of the loading gate, since I cannot use it enough to soften it.
I have one as well…I bought the new one yesterday and it feels like a toy compared to the original dark series….the new one doesn’t come with a sling like the og version…doesn’t have a large loop…mine came with a thread protector that didn’t even fit the damn gun, the muzzle brake wasn’t even screwed on right, the screw was missing for the hammer extension so I can’t even use it….you know you’ve got a paid off video when someone says Ruger put Marlin back on the map or pretty much anything positive about the new marlins….their junk compared to what we were getting just 5 years ago and before
damn, that's super disheartening to read... been hyping myself up to get a new 1895 dark, but now not so sure...@@Whispertactical
@@southport65 I just wanna be clear that I haven’t shot it yet…Im very disappointed with the gun compared to my old one but I will make a video on it soon because I need to make sure that people get an unpaid review of this gun since the cost is upwards of $2500 right now which is not worth it at all, that’s just absolutely absurd to me
Just picked my 45-70 Marlin dark up today been looking for one for months. Never will let it go I know what I have and it’s a treasure.
What made you pick the dark model? Is the action pretty smooth? I'd like to get a SS 1895 SBL model, but rarely in stock and normally $1500ish.
Nice looking rifle. The one thing that has been lost that made the lever action Americas rifle is the fact they were once affordable. Many 30-30 lever actions hit the deer woods because you could buy them at your local department store or hardware store at a decent price. That has certainly been lost with the Ruger/Marlin era. This particular model even takes the route of the cheaper Cerakote finish and injection molded plastic furniture. Doesn't seem to transfer to the bottom line however. And I don't get the obsession with the 45-70 cartridge choice either. I had higher hopes with this rebirth but it doesn't look like the focus was really on making it an American icon again. I used to think Henry was the rich man's lever action. Ruger came along and said you ain't seen nothing yet.
Nothing is cheap anymore.
Sign of the times, unfortunately.
They haven't been $400 since Remington bought them out. I bought a 94 trapper before Ruger bought out Marlin, it was $1200.
I made mistake of selling my Ruger .44 magnum semi-auto carbine. I dont regret it, I sold it to buy a Benelli Super Nova, I didnt own a shotgun at the time, and I wasnt thrilled with the tube fed. It was gnarly truck gun but no magazine wouldnt make it very effective when seconds matter. I made a video on it like 15yrs ago and it still gets comments on the regular, people really like them. This Marlin looks like a winner, at least i thought so till I looked at the price. I think Id be happier with a used Spear lol.
I've got the Marlin 45-70 "guide gun" with a 19" barrel. This thing must be even more wild with a 16".
Like the "Trapper" series also. 1895 TSBL.
How much do you think that 3" affects ballistics? From what Im seeing its not much?
Honestly the recoil on this is mitigated tremendously by the muzzle brake. Doesn’t kick bad at all!
Torx screws. Great idea. Unlike my Henry in 44 magnum, were the slot screws come loose after 18 shots and must be tightened up, or they will fall out and jam up the rifle.
Definitely going to trade up to a Marlin. Love that Ruger parent company.
I like this modern touch on a classic!
Ruger really has preserved the name of Marlin with outstanding workmanship with the lever actions. I can’t wait to get the 30-30, but since quality takes time and they are in high demand, I understand why it’s taking a while to show up at the dealers.
Pretty cool. I’ve got the trapper and want to keep it pristine. This dark series but in 30-30 is one I’m going to look into, sometime in 2024. $1300 is a bit pricey but decking out a SBL or Trapper with Ranger Point products will bring the total cost north of that $1300. Thank you for the review.
They hit it out of the park with this one! I want one bad but not paying gun broker prices right now.
Picked mine up last Tuesday. Very first, brand new, I mean spitting brand new rifle, I've ever owned. Made a shirt video shooting it and so far, can't complain.
How much did you pay for it? I've seen them go for 2400
@@Jblandon162I paid 1240 for mine, but it's broken now. The front end points where screws go into to hold the handguard in BROKE!!!. waiting for marlin to respond
@@boredvetgood price but that’s nuts if it’s a defect
I’ve fired a few lever action rifles but never owned one. I’m really liking this one just based on majority of the reviews I’ve seen
Remington started the Dark Series and made their butt and forearm stock out of Walnut. Painted with Black Spyder paint. The lever gun had heft and was tough as nails. Ruger makes theirs like the cheaper copy cat Henry made with plastic stocks just like this one made by Ruger!! The Remington Dark Series lever guns sold for around $730. This was only four years ago!!
Glad people like it 😊
Very nice Sootch, i love lever-action guns, since i was a little boy i was always fascinated by the Wild West legends, i am very proud to see that you keep this tradition alive. Your Channel will always have my like, you do an amazing work, glad to see that there a still an army of patriots ready to fight for freedom, cheers from Brazil.
Thanks Joao! I Always appreciate your comments. 👍
I herd word that now that Ruger has bought Marlin, I herd that Marlin will be making side by side shotguns using the L.C Smith brand. It makes since because Ruger is the main sponsor for CASS (Cowboy Action Sport Shotimg ). If it’s true, it will be a wise move on Ruger/ Marlin.
@@richardespinoza6243 very cool, i wish i could buy these guns, but i live in Brazil.
I have the original Marlin Guide gun... Love it.
I have been looking for this beauty every where and I’m having no luck! Can’t wait till I finally find one
Well, if Darth Vader ever decides he wants a Marlin...
Yes, it's why it make its the best model
There won't be a single one in stock, never. Darth has to make it work with traditional ways
@@kybbe112Why do they even release cool shit when they’re not gonna make any? Or maybe a handful of them and you find one, one time, in an overpriced fudd shop in the middle of boonefucknowhere
They're available on the website currently??? Other than .44 which I'm curious about.
Yea you're rite he could really clean the galaxy with one matching his outfit
Ruger and Marlin, are both, part of firearms Americana! And these new rifles are awesome! Its hard not to run get one!
I thought i'd never want another lever action, until now!
Look at the hole that put in the target, that would leave a mark! Love the lever actions, great video Sootch!
If it wasn't for ruger that great marlin name would have gone the way of Remington.
That is so nice setup, I have a cowboy, but 45-70 ammo is a killer in cost if you can find it.
Lotta good places to get it you just have to know where to look, a few places where I live carry 45-70 regularly.
Online shopping is easy breezy, PSA and SGAmmo are my usual go toos
I need something that can bring down a Sasquatch. Is this a good round?
Yes
Will stop a buffalo or bear
@ is a squatch tougher than a buffalo or bear?
@ idk I guess when you see Sasquatch you better have a 45 70 to put the question to rest.
Got a standard guide gun, she's a beast. Two bucks per trigger pull
There is something I like about the looks of this rifle but Just can't beat wood imo lol
Carbine M1 semi Auto the best one rifle during Vietnam war …Thanks for sharing.( ARVN Veterans) 👍🇺🇸🇫🇷🇨🇦🇦🇺🇹🇼
Looked on their website and didn’t see any planned releases for a .357/.38S model. That’s what I would like to have in the dark series
Great review, man!
Thank you for going into the details that you did with the bolt.
Thanks Ryan!
Ruger’s customer service, at least in my experience, is exceptional. I hope they keep buying more gun companies.
I definitely love Ruger's guns, as the GP100 in .357 Magnum (which ol' Sootch had done a video of) is my favorite of theirs. so with that said i'm actually planning on buying this rifle for my 45th birthday (sooner if they get them in-stock and the price lowers somewhat)
Love that Trijicon optic, it’s a nice looking and performance match for that 1895 Dark! Peace Be The Journey!
Great gun. If only they make .454 casull in the future than Marlin + Taurus Raging Hunter in .454 is my dream tactical cowboy set.
I need one of these. I’ll put a Ranger point Precision ammo quiver on the m-lock rail, probably upgrade the but stock too
Had one in the store I work at, the day I decided to put it in layaway, someone had bought it. Can’t believe I let it slip through my hands.
Sooo jealous that you got the opportunity to shoot this. I will be looking for it.
I like it. I still think I like the 1895 SBL better
Sootch, Love your videos brother. Keep them coming 👍🏼🔥🇺🇸
Thanks Mike!
Awesome marlin 1895 4570 rifle thanks for sharing sootch00
I like my gen. 1 Remington Dark series much better. A few Ranger Point Precision upgrades and I think it's a superior rifle to the new Ruger made ones. I do like the looks of the new Ruger / Marlin Trapper though.
This 45-70 lever action rifle make me feel stronger.
Marlin needs to offer this in 357mag/38spl for the folks who want it to maximize suppressor efficacy
According to the website, there's one coming out this summer. And .44 magnum.
Just ordered one. Only 2 week wait time and under MSRP. Plan on reloading and looks like I can reload for about a buck a round
Oh no, enough with the 45-70 's!!!! We're not gonna hunt down Godzilla. Ruger, give us a Marlin SBL in .357 Mag. already. Not a 1894! A nice, ergonomic, stainless steel SBL in .357 Magnum. It can't be that hard.
Very cool rifle, still love the OG rifle though
Oh wow. That dog barks and bites.😊 Thanks for the video that is a fine rifle.😊
Thanks buddy good review.
I love the cross bolt safety to remind me if its a live one in the chamber.
Oh that is a beautiful thumper! I've been looking to add a lever action to the safe, I absolutely love the manual action and, if I'm honest, the wild west nostalgia 🤠
Lever actions are so handy and fast. Wearing a cowboy hat makes it even better! lol! Thanks David~
This video make me want to watch Serenity again.😊
Love it! Great video once again! Thanks brother!
God bless all here.
Great way to start my day, hope yall are doing well 🙏 ❤
Thanks Willyjilly! Hope you do as well!
Looks wicked with the ACOG
I haven't experienced 45-70 yet. Those are some BIG holes! 14:16
Fantastic rifle and options ruger is awesome
I'd like to see a bullet velocity comparison between your 20" and 16" models.
This is one. 😎🤘 BAD ASS 🤘😎 rifle
Beautiful and Powerful Rifle 💯
Very Cool Gun
Love it. Nice lever action
At nearly twice the amount of a side loading Henry, Marlin/Ruger can keep their guns.
Can't believe how expensive these lever guns have gotten!
Better too expensive than not available; )
a real stopper
can we get these but in a dark wood stock, like the old Remlin Dark series.
What is the best watch for SHTF, Grid down for multiple years, teotwawki preparedness?
The only downside to Ruger buying Marlin is that we'll never see the Marlin semiautos again as they'll canabalize Ruger products. The lever actions will be great though
Looks like the Industry Gearing up for the next AWB . No Pistol Grip , no Forward Vertical Grip , no Detachable Magazine the Picatinny rail is the spoiler alert .
I was looking into a Henry X, but this looks far better.
I had a henry x (before it fell off the side of a boat) and I loved it. That being said I would have picked this one first as well.
Another great review !! Thanks
I’m not fond of the polymer stock and tactical fore end on a lever gun… some dark grey wood furniture would be sick… but I’m glad marlin is stepping up quality
love to see woox make a stock for this gun.
Got it finally.
Two months ago.
Not an easy one to find.
Great but cost off ammo is nuts)
Love action got the centennial 3030 Canada model ❤ etching
I want hte 38 357 with all that... but I don't want it tactical black.
I'd take differnet colours. Gimm a purple one. or two tone black and silver.
realistically though, I thinki can take the back and fore and paint those separately maybe
Waiting for the Marlin Model 336 Dark Series 30 30.
I would definitely be more interested in that rifle. Had it been made with wood
Brian at BHX UA-cam channel has actually converted one of these Dark series to a wood furniture rifle. Looks pretty darn good!
Terry
Looking forward to this in 30-30.
That fat lever saddle is sweet! I'm a fan of everything except the funky buttstock and the price. In 1980, I walked into a Kmart in Rubidoux, Ca and paid $199 for a Marlin lever in 357cal. I still carry it while walking my fence line nearly every day.
Thank you Don! Excellent content and knowledge as usual Sir.
Thanks Todd!
Thanks for the video ❤❤❤
Thanks for watching!
Waiting for this to come out in 30 30
Man I need to add one of these to go with my cowboy limited.
I would like to ask you to use your influence to encourage Ruger to develop this rifle in 357 Remington Maximum.
Beautiful rifle.
Very nice, classic meets modern!
Now! to actually find one..
The mini ACOG on that rifle looks sweet! It's a very unique vibe. I can't wait to pick up a modern 'tactical' version of one of these lever actions.
I hope they do a Dark Series in 357/44 mag! Great video as always thanks!
They did in the Remington era. The painted wood stock is heavy, and loading gat is stiff, but mine works flawlessly, for now.
Great vid. I think I just found my next purchase...in 44 mag.
Thanks
The recoil seemed pretty mild. What load are you firing? Cowboy action loads? Can’t blame you if they are. Just wondering. They don’t look full power.
Yeah, these load are easy on the shoulder but their field dynamic rounds are pretty stout. I have some Winchester Bear Claw 45-70 that will rock your world! 🤣
Hey Sootch what kind of optic do you have on that Marlin? Nice setup!!!!
Great channel and video, there's a couple videos that mention rust on these dark series rifles. Apparently they started to rust in the safe, what's your thoughts on this?
Use mineral oil
love my trapper its just a beutiful rifle . marlin needs to make these more readily avail that is a real pain when your buying and cant find them
Love my Marlins, only problem with the Marlin 45/70 is the fact they use micro grooving for the rifling, so you lose a lot of accuracy if you use bigger loadings with lead bullets. You have to keep the load fairly low unless you are using jacketed rounds.
The new Marlins made in Mayodan, NC do *NOT* have microgroove rifling. They also have hammer forged barrels. Marlin used button rifling IIRC. That said, I don’t have any problems with microgroove rifling unless I try to push lead bullets too fast.
Optics used to much
@@chipsterb4946are you saying the lead bullets don't shoot as good why is that
@@craigfinley2507 try an internet search for “lead bullets with microgroove rifling”. The short version is that microgroove rifling tends to get more lead deposits in the barrel, particularly when lead bullets are pushed past a certain velocity. That velocity depends on caliber and hardness of the lead alloy used. A gas check can help.
Marlin went away from Micro Groove rifling many years ago (before Remington purchased them), moving over to "Ballard-style" cut rifling on .45-70s. No Ruger-produced Marlin has Micro Groove rifling.
I want a Marlin Dark in 327 Federal Magnum
Great video!
CORRECTION all Winchester 94 s with angle eject can take scopes not to knock the others have 3 marlins but my 307 / 94 in my favorite
Always great videos, I value your time. I have a question. You are doing a deliberate cock to fully engage the mid cock. Is this a part of the break in process, or is it the nature of the nature of the flat tipped ammo to jam if you are in Rifleman speed mode?
hich do you recommend in 45-70 for hunting. Marlin (Ruger made) Guide gun or one of the Henry 45-70 like the Big Boy side loading gate etc? What are your thoughts between the Marlin and Henry?
An answer to a question no one asked.
the modern lever action rifles look nice but I'm a wood and steel kinda guy
Check out BHX. He put wood on this gun ha ha. Looks awesome.