Hello Phillip. Always good to hear from you and I'm looking forward to having you over for Thanksgiving. I might also put your pretty face in a youtube video 👍😎
I believe in Taurus, I had a nickel satin mod 66 .357, I inadvertently fired some loads by an outside source,they expanded in the barrel and cylinder and cracked the cylinder. I sent it in too taurus,they scolded me for the rounds,but completely replaced the entire pistol for the cost of shipping only. Never had an issue with that one. Now that's a great manufacturer.
I was a small city PD officer in the '70's. We were all still using blued wheel guns. Most everybody either had red fingernail polish or glow in the dark paint (my personal preference) on the top edge of the front blade sight. I still keep a small vial of it for my Para GI Expert 1911. It works great and is cheaper than replacing the sight. If you make sure that your sight is really clean and free of oil, it adheres very well and will last through hundreds of rounds
I think stainless steel wheel guns were already available back in the 70's. The first stainless steel model 60 came out in 1965, and a lot of people placed an order for that. Did LE agencies around the country ever made a transition to stainless steel revolvers before they transitioned to semi-autos all the way?
@@williamwatson4625 Both my county agency and the Sheriff's Dept. begin issuing our deputies the S&W Model 66 about 1975. Before that about half the local agencies set requirements but the deputies provided their own firearms and ammunition, beside uniforms and leather gear. My agency also bought a small number of Model 60 2" revolvers for our plain clothes Fugitive Detail. We began the transition process to privately purchased 9mm pistols in 1989, and then to issued Glock 22 .40S&W pistols in 1997. My wife carried a 4" Model 19 up until she took that transition class. She wore an Expert pin on her on her uniform shirt.
I really love the Rock Island. When I was a kid I loved those old detective movies and I don’t know why, those small revolvers look so classic and awesome.
@@Bhethar rock island is essentially a poor man's Colt. Since they are made on the same presses that Colt used in the Philippines and sold to the Filipino government after ww2. Their 1911s are fantastic
Only if you don't shoot or dry fire much, those M200's are POS. They go out of time faster than any other modern production revolver. RIA makes a decent cheap 1911 but they should have stayed away from wheel guns.
The old rule we had when I worked in a gun shop back in the 1980s was "Buy the best you can afford, it's hard to go wrong that way." That rule still applies when you come down to it. Looking at both there seems to be little difference in practical accuracy between the two, especially if the purchaser intends to keep it as a home protection or personal carry piece. One isn't likely to use either at any range further than the seven yard test range used in the video.
After watching this, I checked the fitting of my M206. Definitely better than yours seems to be. No gaps. Side plate fits tight. No irregular gap when opening the cylinder. Of course, variances between individual guns can happen in a world where hand-fitting is not, and cannot, be done on lower-priced weapons. Buyer be aware. You did convince me to give the Taurus a whirl. The 3-point lock-up for the win, but I wonder, as the M206 rotates away from the crane if that reduces the importance of that difference. However, your hopefully unlikely scenario of a handgun bouncing along the sidewalk or down a rocky hillside makes better cylinder retention more important. Always great content. Thanks.
Nice review. I considered both these revolvers, but instead settled on the Zastava M83. It is a somewhat larger, Yugoslavian military and police surplus revolver, with a 4 inch barrel, but is a true .357 magnum, and can shoot .38 special, .38 special +P, and .357 magnum. It is all steel, sturdy construction, 2 - 2..6 lbs. They are currently being imported and can be had for just a little more than the Taurus at the Taurus sale prices. I paid the little extra and got mine special select. The revolver looks like it was hardly used, with its original wood grips and almost no signs of wear. Even the bluing inside the cylinder chambers is perfect. I find the sights on it very adequate.
I "daily" the S&W 642. So yeah I love "wheelguns" My grandfather (a cop in the olden days: 1930s 1970s) carried the S&W Military and Police (Model 10) then upgraded to the Model 13 (Really a "Model 10" but in .357). My MOTHER (decidedly NOT a cop..) carried an S&W "Chiefs Special" (Model 36) from the '50s until she passed in the 1990s. I still have the Model 13 and 36!
I bought my wife a Taurus 85CH many years ago. It's a stainless steel 5 shot with a concealed hammer. She's a good shot with that little gun. It really fits her hand well. It's a little small for me, though. We've put many hundreds of rounds through it and never had one problem. I really like Taurus firearms. I have a few and they function perfectly. Would I recommend Taurus firearms? Yes, I would.
I have a half dozen of the things, 3 of them 2" barrels, 3 of them 3" barrels. I also have a Taurus 94 in .22, which is built on the same frame. As for the grips, the first one I got had the older "banana" style grips on it. I cut them down even with the bottom of the frame, rounded them off, and even for my meaty hands, (I wear an XL glove), they fit well. When I got more of them, I acquired more of the same grips, and modified the same way. I even put a set of them on the 94 so that it handles the same.
Thank you for the thorough evaluation and description of these two revolvers. Most firearm channels do not go into the meaningful details like you did, which are very helpful to anyone considering a purchase. After watching your video, my choice would be the Taurus. Thanks for another excellent video.
I also love revolvers! I enjoy all of your video's. I like it when you go back to the shop and give us a close up of what you're shooting today. Thank you.
Back in 1975 or 76 I bought my first wheel gun, a Taurus model 82 .... .38 special, with wood grips looked exactly like a S&W. I don't remember the model of the S&W but the clerk, at the pawn shop laid the Taurus 82 next to a S&W ... and the only difference was that the brand new Taurus, cost me $200 where the S&W would have cost over $400. The quality was great, accurate ... my buddy a week later picked up a Ruger .38 special revolver, and it broke twice, while I owned the Taurus, with no issues. Stupidly I sold it, in 1996 and have been kicking myself since. I did buy another Taurus, recently, and have a Rock Island 206 ... but my new Taurus is nothing like the old 82.
My edc is a Model 85UL Taurus. I am a Smith and Wesson guy, So the same control layout is paramount. I bought it when poor, and have bought a lot of revolvers in the decades since. But never felt a need to replace it.
I was a police officer for 14 years in Brazil. We used Taurus pistols, which have a very bad reputation there. But as far as revolvers go, they definitely do a good job.
I've never owned any Taurus revolvers but I do own and absolutely love my G3 and G3C. I've put tons of rounds through both of them over the last few years and they have done fantastic. They're super accurate too. I'd kinda like to check out one of the TH9's that they just recently started to import into the USA.
So far my Taurus Revolvers have been great shooters. 441 .44spl, 445 .44spl Titanium 2 1/2" barrel, 455 .45ACP, and a Tracker .44mag. Three are 4" barrels. The only Taurus I ever had trouble with was with a TCP38 in .380ACP. Taurus built it in the U.S. and did little to no polishing on the compact pistol. My SIL polished the ramp and the barrel over 10 years ago. Turned a jammamatic to a totally reliable weapon.
I, too, have a G3C and I love it!! It’s my EDC and I keep it loaded with Federal 124 grain HST +Ps. I’ve put every style of HP I can find through it. No issues whatsoever! Love it!!👍👍
yeah, I have 3 old ones that work really good, and 3 newer ones that don't. sent each back to Taurus only to wait 4 months to have them returned to me with the same issues. would I recommend them, no.
I didn't realize the Taurus had three lockups like a smith and wesson, in the Rock Island only had 2. Even if they were the same build quality, I'd be willing to pay the extra for better sghts. I'm glad to still be watching you.
It has been a while since I've thrown a can in the air and shot it. When I was much younger and had better eyesight I would throw golf balls in the air and shoot them. Maybe someday I will try hitting a golf ball in one of my future youtube videos 👍😁
Thanks, that's helpful. I have carried snub-nosed .38Spl revolvers for 45 years. I do not enjoy shooting them, but I do shoot them to keep current on them. They are a challenge, and it's not always pleasant. I enjoy watching you shoot them, because you shoot them well. Thanks for taking us along.
Great video again 👏. Always love hearing mixup, such great common sense. Ill say something and a second later mixup will address that very thing😅. He knows what were thinking. Keep showing off that rock island! Prove those haters wrong by showing its long run with you. ❤
Ruger LCR, 38 +P all day long. Durable, light, never a problem since new. Its my go to gun for just about everything, in town or the woods. Good video, again.
I have the newer version of the 856 in stainless. First revolver I've ever owned. I love it. I'm more accurate with it than any semi auto I've ever shot. I carry it everywhere
Because of your videos, I almost got the M206, but I ended up with the Taurus 856 Concealed version (The hammer is bobbed so it's DA only). I was able to snag the weapon for $25 bucks more then the M206 at the time ($250 for the 856) One thing I did notice on the website is Taurus says the 856 Concealed version says it's rated for steady diet of +p. But since you mentioned yours is only "if you have to", it's got me asking questions. The only other difference is my front sight is pinned. Great breakdown of the weapons and great work on the video!
nice video !!! The reason the fit/finish and lockup on S&W and Taurus are similar is because Bangor Punta owned bothTaurus & S&W for years.... used the S&W tooling
Like the Taurus, have three versions of the 856, just great workhorses. Bought my first 441 SS Taurus in 93 as my fake Dirty Harry afford able gun for 200.00 , still works great.Now have over a dozen of their revolvers, if I could only have one, I would take my 692 SS 3 '' barrel. But they all have been flawless. Thanks for your effort to make these great videos !
Very nice comparison of the wheel guns! I purchased the S&W Bodyguard 38 (internal hammer and ‘Insight’ Laser not CT. I didn’t like the grip after shooting just a few 38 Specials, it would make my palm sore. I then saw on UA-cam a video and the poster had a similar problem, small grip and would bite the palm. Solution was the purchase of the Hogue ‘Tamer’ Grip and was night N day on shooting comfort. It does make the grip slightly larger, however not overly. This grip fits my hand better and eliminated the sore palm after shooting. The grip also gives me a better ‘Grip’ of the pistol to handle recoil. The Hogue ‘Tamer’ was a very affordable replacement and does not break the bank. Best to all!
I have a Taurus Model 85. I carry it probably 70 percent of the time. I assume the 856 gets its name because of its capacity. I really like the Model 85.
I actually picked the 856 taurus over a smith and wesson. Because it carried 6 rounds and had a nice comfortable rubber grip. And it's been reliable as anything these past 4 years.
My personal favorite revolver is a six eighty six plus.. Smith and wesson..three fifty seven magnum.. Thanks for getting me into revolvers. There is something so. Elegant And classic about them. And a whole lot of fun too.
I bought my first revolver in 77 as well, I have the rock island and it shoots well and I own and have shot a few Taurus revolvers and I like them too......I just like revolvers!
Bought the Taurus 605 T.O.R.O (.357) and the RIA 206, love revolvers! Also, a little neon orange finger nail paint on the front sight of the RIA, I had a hard time picking up the sight, too!
I got back 2 back bad 605 TOROs and after 5 months, I'm expecting my 2 replacement from Taurus, making it my 3rd TORO. Hoping i finally get a good one.
I have owned Taurus revolvers since the early 1980s and their absolutely great. I had one problem back in the old days and that was the cylinder release button screw with stripped. I now own a 2019 tracker model 627 357 Magnum and I've never had a single issue😊 one thing I do like about the Rock Island is the pullback cylinder release button like the Colts have. I also like ruger's push button cylinder release and prefer these over Smith & Wesson and Tauruses push forward cylinder release buttons😊
I own 2 of the Rock Island 2" 206s and one of the 4". I lucked out as all 3 work great but a couple of my friends got lemons and had to send them back for repairs. RIA is really good about getting their stuff up and running pretty fast and doing a good job of it. I have never fired +P in any of them. All my wife and I have used is the old police loading of a 158 Gr LRN at 755 fps which hits with about 200 psi at the muzzle. Not great but it should get a bad guys attention at the very least. We dont do great with heavy recoil any longer so thats about all were willing to put up with. A .38 special in the head beats a 500 S&W in the foot any day so practice practice practice and then practice some more. Thanks for another great video Mixup98. God bless you & yours.
I can say that Taurus customer service was great. No cost , no questions, and quick turn around. They just "adjusted forcing cone' and returned. The truth is the factory never cut a forcing cone and it spit jacket material in my face. And I'm not the only one. I put a lighter trigger spring in it and it's my favorite .357 snub now.
@jakleo337 My experience with Taurus customer service absolutely sucked. Bought a brand new tx22 with the manual safety. It would fire with the safety engaged. Taurus wanted 50 bucks to even look at it. 2 other bad experience with Taurus. Never again. 😡
@jakleo337 wish I could say the same. Back to back bad 605 Toros. 5 months later I'm expecting my 2nd replacement, my 3rd Toro. Customer service is poor because it's taken this long and quality control is an abomination. Lifetime warranty because it takes them a lifetime to address.
Good info my Friend. I picked up the Taurus Deputy in 45 colt last week. Honestly its the first Taurus I've owned. So far im absolutely loving it. One smooth 4 click :) revolver. Thumbs-up ~John
You have a nice collection. I had a stainless Judge years ago but sold it. Now I'm thinking of getting a poly Judge and doing a review on it. Should be lots of fun.
I have had a fascination with revolvers since I was a little boy. I'm 60 now. I was mesmerized by my dad's Iver Johnson .38 S&W when he opened his briefcase at the hotel in L.A. we had just flown in from San Francisco (he had that briefcase on the plane). I had a little trouble being good with a revolver. I think it was my trigger control, but two revolvers I shot well were my S&W model 29 6" barrel and my old nickle S&W M&P model 10. I have wanted a short barreled .38 for quite some time. Fun comparison.
Good morning Steve. I bet that Iver Johnson was a hoot to shoot. The first centerfire handgun I ever shot, more than fifty years ago, was my dad's nickel S&W Model 10. I recently bought an older nickel Model 10 and it brought back a lot of good memories I have with my dad. Here is that Model 10 video if you are interested: ua-cam.com/video/9_7rttOVjPw/v-deo.html
@mixup98 yeah that old Iver Johnson. I think I had to school my brothers that it didn't shoot .38 special😁. That gun got stolen, buried in the hills of Thousand Oaks, California. The police caught the guy and got some of the guns back. The old Iver was never the same after that. My brother has my 5" m&p now because I am very sick. For some reason I could shoot that decent (double action) and my model 29 with light loads, I could shoot that well. Thanks Mixup for the link to that other video! Take Care, God bless you with continued health and many more days of shooting!
The Taurus has the Smith style push button cylinder release and the Rock Island has the Colt style pull button. Smith began using the front cylinder pin lock to enhance lock up.
I found your channel about a year ago, and after six months of watching I wanted to add a 38 to go with my semi’s. I contemplated the Rock Island but went with the Taurus in the 3” model. Very happy with it. Not as good as a Smith but a fine firearm. Thank you for your videos
1:31 Look at that angle of the hammer on the Taurus and then that of the Rock Island, when the rock island hammer os pulled back in the firing mode, look how close the hammer would get to the shooter's hand
I was on my way to buy a Rock Island at Turners in Santa Maria and stopped in at a small gun shop to see what they might have in the way of a small revolver. They had a used 856 for $50 less than what I was going to spend on the Rock Island.....No Brainer! Very happy with my Taurus though I don't find it fun at the range. The felt recoil from a small/light 38spl to me is more than the felt recoil from my 6.5in barrel .357 Ruger Blackhawk.
I have two Taurus revolvers one is the poly protector snub-nosed in 357 mag. My second Taurus revolver is the Judge with the six inch barrel, and 2- 3/4 cylinder chambered in 410/45 LC. Love both of them and my next purchase will be the Rock Island revolver with the 3 inch barrel can't wait to get one after the holidays.
I have three Taurus revolvers and they are all well built workhorses. And the difference in price for the S & W models of the same caliber is hundreds more. Fit and finish are excellent.
Iv had a revolver i have carried for over 20 years now and i love it just a Taurus 85 and 2 speed loaders love it. When im i the woods i carry bigger guns but in general its my 38spl revolver on most my days now.
I carried S&W models 60 & 66 for duty weapons in the 70&80’s and they both served me well. Decided to buy a 642 airweight to carry in my back pocket around the farm. Hated the trigger pull and how the cylinder rolled out. Started losing the finish on the aluminum. Sent it to S&W twice. They returned it in the same condition. Worst handgun I own and haven’t bought a smith since. They didn’t seem to care. I would definitely consider a Taurus before I bought another smith. They won’t miss my business and I won’t miss their product and service. Just wanted to share my opinion. Thanks for the video Mixup & son.
Well I do have a Rock Island 200 that I am very fond of. I did buy a set of 206 grips to put on it, Do not shoot it a lot but I trust it enough that it is the revolver of choice to live next to my bed. Which to me says a lot, but may not speak as loud to others.
I think you would enjoy shooting a .38 special or even a .357 mag revolver. I'm glad that you like my revolver videos and I am sure I will be posting many more in the future.
Very well done comparison. These days, what with YT changing the algorithm or something, I am having fewer and fewer shooting sports videos recommended to me. I am glad I ran into you under a category called shooting range (or similar). Subscribed
Hello pacanis and welcome to my channel. UA-cam is making it harder and harder to post shooting videos which is why you are seeing less of them. I plan on being around for a long time and I'm glad you found my channel. I want to also thank you for subscribing to my channel. I try to post one or two videos per week, depending on the weather.
Having no intention of shooting thousands of rounds through a revolver, and not wanting to spend S&W, Colt, or Kimber-type purchase prices, I bought a Taurus 856 Exec. Grade (for well-below MSRP), and have been completely happy, both mechanically and cosmetically. We'd all agree, having a nearby desert for a shooting range would be fun.
I shot my first revolver with mixup98 in 1980 or 81. Thanks for starting me on my love of firearms and shooting!
Yeah dude!!!
Hello Phillip. Always good to hear from you and I'm looking forward to having you over for Thanksgiving. I might also put your pretty face in a youtube video 👍😎
I believe in Taurus, I had a nickel satin mod 66 .357, I inadvertently fired some loads by an outside source,they expanded in the barrel and cylinder and cracked the cylinder. I sent it in too taurus,they scolded me for the rounds,but completely replaced the entire pistol for the cost of shipping only. Never had an issue with that one. Now that's a great manufacturer.
Never apologize for doing more revolver videos 🤣😂🤠🇺🇲 we love it
Thanks! 👍😎
I was a small city PD officer in the '70's. We were all still using blued wheel guns. Most everybody either had red fingernail polish or glow in the dark paint (my personal preference) on the top edge of the front blade sight. I still keep a small vial of it for my Para GI Expert 1911. It works great and is cheaper than replacing the sight. If you make sure that your sight is really clean and free of oil, it adheres very well and will last through hundreds of rounds
I think stainless steel wheel guns were already available back in the 70's. The first stainless steel model 60 came out in 1965, and a lot of people placed an order for that. Did LE agencies around the country ever made a transition to stainless steel revolvers before they transitioned to semi-autos all the way?
I use Testers model paint, either red or green.
@@williamwatson4625 Both my county agency and the Sheriff's Dept. begin issuing our deputies the S&W Model 66 about 1975. Before that about half the local agencies set requirements but the deputies provided their own firearms and ammunition, beside uniforms and leather gear. My agency also bought a small number of Model 60 2" revolvers for our plain clothes Fugitive Detail. We began the transition process to privately purchased 9mm pistols in 1989, and then to issued Glock 22 .40S&W pistols in 1997. My wife carried a 4" Model 19 up until she took that transition class. She wore an Expert pin on her on her uniform shirt.
I really love the Rock Island. When I was a kid I loved those old detective movies and I don’t know why, those small revolvers look so classic and awesome.
@@Bhethar rock island is essentially a poor man's Colt. Since they are made on the same presses that Colt used in the Philippines and sold to the Filipino government after ww2. Their 1911s are fantastic
Same here, exactly the same reason I love those snub nosed pistols
Check out the Heritage Roscoe, thats exactly the aesthetic they were going for
Same reason I bought my 206. Was binge watching Peter Gunn on Prime.
You will be way happier with the Rock island than any piece of junk Taurus. I have the R.I.A. model 200. It's been very reliable. @WyattNErdy
Great analysis as always mix...honest and fair.
I like the Taurus better Mixup. Enjoyed the video.
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Have both, love both
Got the Rock Island M200 after watching your review a couple of years ago. Was a great inexpensive first revolver.
Only if you don't shoot or dry fire much, those M200's are POS. They go out of time faster than any other modern production revolver.
RIA makes a decent cheap 1911 but they should have stayed away from wheel guns.
Those revolvers just work! Nothing fancy, just a pair of working girls.
*pair of fine working horses. 😊
I agree; they work.
Working girls?
In Nevada?
@keithhartman9946 You're killing me.
@@keithhartman9946 I see what you did there 😄😄👍
I got the .38 Taurus 856. I LOVE that lil thing! Very comfortable!
The RI is colt like with the pull open button! 👍🏽😊❤️🇺🇸
I noticed that as well. Like my Colt 38 Detective Special.
Correct answer Sir! The Taurus is a no brainer the superior weapon. Thank you for a great vid!
Great minds think alike! 👍😁
The old rule we had when I worked in a gun shop back in the 1980s was "Buy the best you can afford, it's hard to go wrong that way." That rule still applies when you come down to it.
Looking at both there seems to be little difference in practical accuracy between the two, especially if the purchaser intends to keep it as a home protection or personal carry piece. One isn't likely to use either at any range further than the seven yard test range used in the video.
After watching this, I checked the fitting of my M206. Definitely better than yours seems to be.
No gaps. Side plate fits tight. No irregular gap when opening the cylinder.
Of course, variances between individual guns can happen in a world where hand-fitting is not, and cannot, be done on lower-priced weapons. Buyer be aware.
You did convince me to give the Taurus a whirl. The 3-point lock-up for the win, but I wonder, as the M206 rotates away from the crane if that reduces the importance of that difference. However, your hopefully unlikely scenario of a handgun bouncing along the sidewalk or down a rocky hillside makes better cylinder retention more important.
Always great content. Thanks.
Nice review. I considered both these revolvers, but instead settled on the Zastava M83. It is a somewhat larger, Yugoslavian military and police surplus revolver, with a 4 inch barrel, but is a true .357 magnum, and can shoot .38 special, .38 special +P, and .357 magnum. It is all steel, sturdy construction, 2 - 2..6 lbs. They are currently being imported and can be had for just a little more than the Taurus at the Taurus sale prices. I paid the little extra and got mine special select. The revolver looks like it was hardly used, with its original wood grips and almost no signs of wear. Even the bluing inside the cylinder chambers is perfect. I find the sights on it very adequate.
I just googled the Zastava M83 revolver and it looks very interesting. Hopefully I can find one and do a review on it. Thanks for the suggestion.
I "daily" the S&W 642. So yeah I love "wheelguns" My grandfather (a cop in the olden days: 1930s 1970s) carried the S&W Military and Police (Model 10) then upgraded to the Model 13 (Really a "Model 10" but in .357). My MOTHER (decidedly NOT a cop..) carried an S&W "Chiefs Special" (Model 36) from the '50s until she passed in the 1990s. I still have the Model 13 and 36!
I really enjoy your videos. Your son is a welcome addition to your content. He adds a lot of value and comic relief. Thank you.
I bought my wife a Taurus 85CH many years ago. It's a stainless steel 5 shot with a concealed hammer. She's a good shot with that little gun. It really fits her hand well. It's a little small for me, though. We've put many hundreds of rounds through it and never had one problem. I really like Taurus firearms. I have a few and they function perfectly. Would I recommend Taurus firearms? Yes, I would.
Absolutely yes. They work well for budget. Both brands are great for the money😊
I have a half dozen of the things, 3 of them 2" barrels, 3 of them 3" barrels. I also have a Taurus 94 in .22, which is built on the same frame. As for the grips, the first one I got had the older "banana" style grips on it. I cut them down even with the bottom of the frame, rounded them off, and even for my meaty hands, (I wear an XL glove), they fit well. When I got more of them, I acquired more of the same grips, and modified the same way. I even put a set of them on the 94 so that it handles the same.
Thank you for the thorough evaluation and description of these two revolvers. Most firearm channels do not go into the meaningful details like you did, which are very helpful to anyone considering a purchase. After watching your video, my choice would be the Taurus. Thanks for another excellent video.
I also love revolvers! I enjoy all of your video's. I like it when you go back to the shop and give us a close up of what you're shooting today. Thank you.
Back in 1975 or 76 I bought my first wheel gun, a Taurus model 82 .... .38 special, with wood grips looked exactly like a S&W. I don't remember the model of the S&W but the clerk, at the pawn shop laid the Taurus 82 next to a S&W ... and the only difference was that the brand new Taurus, cost me $200 where the S&W would have cost over $400. The quality was great, accurate ... my buddy a week later picked up a Ruger .38 special revolver, and it broke twice, while I owned the Taurus, with no issues. Stupidly I sold it, in 1996 and have been kicking myself since. I did buy another Taurus, recently, and have a Rock Island 206 ... but my new Taurus is nothing like the old 82.
My edc is a Model 85UL Taurus. I am a Smith and Wesson guy, So the same control layout is paramount. I bought it when poor, and have bought a lot of revolvers in the decades since. But never felt a need to replace it.
I have an 856 and also a 66, both with short barrels, I love them both. Fine firearms.
I was a police officer for 14 years in Brazil. We used Taurus pistols, which have a very bad reputation there. But as far as revolvers go, they definitely do a good job.
I've never owned any Taurus revolvers but I do own and absolutely love my G3 and G3C. I've put tons of rounds through both of them over the last few years and they have done fantastic. They're super accurate too. I'd kinda like to check out one of the TH9's that they just recently started to import into the USA.
So far my Taurus Revolvers have been great shooters. 441 .44spl, 445 .44spl Titanium 2 1/2" barrel, 455 .45ACP, and a Tracker .44mag. Three are 4" barrels. The only Taurus I ever had trouble with was with a TCP38 in .380ACP. Taurus built it in the U.S. and did little to no polishing on the compact pistol. My SIL polished the ramp and the barrel over 10 years ago. Turned a jammamatic to a totally reliable weapon.
I, too, have a G3C and I love it!! It’s my EDC and I keep it loaded with Federal 124 grain HST +Ps. I’ve put every style of HP I can find through it. No issues whatsoever! Love it!!👍👍
yeah, I have 3 old ones that work really good, and 3 newer ones that don't. sent each back to Taurus only to wait 4 months to have them returned to me with the same issues. would I recommend them, no.
Their revolvers are a lot better than their semi autos I think.
I bought a S&W Model 19 and no regrets. Pinned and Recessed 👍
.picked up.a model 13..357..pinned/recessed also
I picked up a model 13 not pinned and recessed. @@cbroz7492
I recently bought a S&W 686-6+, amazing revolver
@@RookCAF One of the finest handguns ever made. I carried one on-duty for half of my LE career. It will serve you well.
oh it has. Had it for over 3 decades now. It's tied with my Stainless Combat Commander for my favorites
I didn't realize the Taurus had three lockups like a smith and wesson, in the Rock Island only had 2.
Even if they were the same build quality, I'd be willing to pay the extra for better sghts.
I'm glad to still be watching you.
@@harolddavis4138 New Smiths are copying Taurus lockup and barrel shroud.
@@harolddavis4138 The Taurus and Rossi revolvers are both clones of S&W designs with some minor changes.
@MrStickthrower2001 which is the better pistol, Taurus or Rossi ?
Taurus brought proprietary rights for S&W revolver dies, as well as Beretta dies for the PT 92.
They are identical now. Older versions, I personally like the Rossi. Their M68 and M88 are direct clones of the old S&W model 19 and model 60.
I love your revolver videos!!! Still remember seeing you throw cans up and shooting them with a snub nose. I think that’s what got me to subscribe.
It has been a while since I've thrown a can in the air and shot it. When I was much younger and had better eyesight I would throw golf balls in the air and shoot them. Maybe someday I will try hitting a golf ball in one of my future youtube videos 👍😁
I like both companies, love my 85 and 65
I carry the heritage roscoe 38spl made by taurus and I love it beautifully done weapon
Thanks, that's helpful. I have carried snub-nosed .38Spl revolvers for 45 years. I do not enjoy shooting them, but I do shoot them to keep current on them. They are a challenge, and it's not always pleasant. I enjoy watching you shoot them, because you shoot them well. Thanks for taking us along.
Thank you for the kind words Frank and we are glad to have you tagging along with us to the range.
Great video again 👏. Always love hearing mixup, such great common sense. Ill say something and a second later mixup will address that very thing😅. He knows what were thinking. Keep showing off that rock island! Prove those haters wrong by showing its long run with you. ❤
Ruger LCR, 38 +P all day long. Durable, light, never a problem since new. Its my go to gun for just about everything, in town or the woods. Good video, again.
I have both the M200 and the M206, and I really like both of them. They will get the job done.
I have the newer version of the 856 in stainless. First revolver I've ever owned. I love it. I'm more accurate with it than any semi auto I've ever shot. I carry it everywhere
Because of your videos, I almost got the M206, but I ended up with the Taurus 856 Concealed version (The hammer is bobbed so it's DA only). I was able to snag the weapon for $25 bucks more then the M206 at the time ($250 for the 856) One thing I did notice on the website is Taurus says the 856 Concealed version says it's rated for steady diet of +p. But since you mentioned yours is only "if you have to", it's got me asking questions. The only other difference is my front sight is pinned. Great breakdown of the weapons and great work on the video!
He also mentioned he got his used, so it could be one that was made over a decade ago...
I love the revolver videos. They are my favorite gun to shoot. Thank you 👍
nice video !!! The reason the fit/finish and lockup on S&W and Taurus are similar is because Bangor Punta owned bothTaurus & S&W for years.... used the S&W tooling
I bought my first revolver in the late 80s at a pawn shop its a ruger super Blackhawk and it's never failed me
A ruger super cinder block
Like the Taurus, have three versions of the 856, just great workhorses. Bought my first 441 SS Taurus in 93 as my fake Dirty Harry afford able gun for 200.00 , still works great.Now have over a dozen of their revolvers, if I could only have one, I would take my 692 SS 3 '' barrel. But they all have been flawless. Thanks for your effort to make these great videos !
I own both of these and find your enjoyable review spot on.
Really great video comparison. Very concise and informative.
That Taurus looks great. Somehow classy and modern at the same time.
My pick is the Taurus 856! I did change out the front sight! Great shooter!
I stepped out with mine last night.
I love these videos brother! Don’t ever apologize
My newest revolver...Rossi RP63....357/.38, six rds, 3" barrel...Love it.
Thanks for the feedback on your Rossi. Maybe someday I will get the opportunity to do a review on one.
This is a great channel, my #1 since Paul Harrell passed away 🙏
Just feels "Real"
Hello nsmith9862. I never met Paul but he was genuine and was apparently a good man. Thank you for the excellent comment.
I have had very good luck, with Taurus Revolvers.
I like my Taurus 856,painted the front ramp a nice bright red. Easy to get on target.
I really like Taurus revolvers.
Good Job Sir!
Very nice comparison of the wheel guns!
I purchased the S&W Bodyguard 38 (internal hammer and ‘Insight’ Laser not CT. I didn’t like the grip after shooting just a few 38 Specials, it would make my palm sore. I then saw on UA-cam a video and the poster had a similar problem, small grip and would bite the palm. Solution was the purchase of the Hogue ‘Tamer’ Grip and was night N day on shooting comfort. It does make the grip slightly larger, however not overly. This grip fits my hand better and eliminated the sore palm after shooting. The grip also gives me a better ‘Grip’ of the pistol to handle recoil. The Hogue ‘Tamer’ was a very affordable replacement and does not break the bank.
Best to all!
Love your vids and how often you upload! Great Content! Keep it up!
Always good content. I would love to see a Charter Arms 38 added to the mix for comparison.
I have a Taurus Model 85. I carry it probably 70 percent of the time. I assume the 856 gets its name because of its capacity. I really like the Model 85.
I actually picked the 856 taurus over a smith and wesson. Because it carried 6 rounds and had a nice comfortable rubber grip. And it's been reliable as anything these past 4 years.
My personal favorite revolver is a six eighty six plus.. Smith and wesson..three fifty seven magnum.. Thanks for getting me into revolvers. There is something so.
Elegant And classic about them. And a whole lot of fun too.
We were limited to S&W or Colt revolvers for off-duty carry (retired in ‘97) so I appreciate your videos for the eval of other brands.
Thanks for the video and comparison. I do like the Taurus….
You are in good company...a lot of people like the Taurus.
I have both and both are good revolvers but the Rock Island is the better revolver in my opinion. Shoots better for me.
I bought my first revolver in 77 as well, I have the rock island and it shoots well and I own and have shot a few Taurus revolvers and I like them too......I just like revolvers!
Bought the Taurus 605 T.O.R.O (.357) and the RIA 206, love revolvers! Also, a little neon orange finger nail paint on the front sight of the RIA, I had a hard time picking up the sight, too!
I got back 2 back bad 605 TOROs and after 5 months, I'm expecting my 2 replacement from Taurus, making it my 3rd TORO. Hoping i finally get a good one.
Always a good day when mixup post's a video
I own a Taurus 605 and love it! A great little revolver.
I have owned Taurus revolvers since the early 1980s and their absolutely great. I had one problem back in the old days and that was the cylinder release button screw with stripped. I now own a 2019 tracker model 627 357 Magnum and I've never had a single issue😊 one thing I do like about the Rock Island is the pullback cylinder release button like the Colts have. I also like ruger's push button cylinder release and prefer these over Smith & Wesson and Tauruses push forward cylinder release buttons😊
Long live the revolver!
I own 2 of the Rock Island 2" 206s and one of the 4". I lucked out as all 3 work great but a couple of my friends got lemons and had to send them back for repairs. RIA is really good about getting their stuff up and running pretty fast and doing a good job of it. I have never fired +P in any of them. All my wife and I have used is the old police loading of a 158 Gr LRN at 755 fps which hits with about 200 psi at the muzzle. Not great but it should get a bad guys attention at the very least. We dont do great with heavy recoil any longer so thats about all were willing to put up with. A .38 special in the head beats a 500 S&W in the foot any day so practice practice practice and then practice some more. Thanks for another great video Mixup98. God bless you & yours.
It's always good to hear from you Anthony and I always appreciate the nice comments.
I can say that Taurus customer service was great. No cost , no questions, and quick turn around. They just "adjusted forcing cone' and returned. The truth is the factory never cut a forcing cone and it spit jacket material in my face. And I'm not the only one. I put a lighter trigger spring in it and it's my favorite .357 snub now.
@jakleo337 My experience with Taurus customer service absolutely sucked. Bought a brand new tx22 with the manual safety. It would fire with the safety engaged. Taurus wanted 50 bucks to even look at it. 2 other bad experience with Taurus. Never again. 😡
@jakleo337 wish I could say the same. Back to back bad 605 Toros. 5 months later I'm expecting my 2nd replacement, my 3rd Toro. Customer service is poor because it's taken this long and quality control is an abomination. Lifetime warranty because it takes them a lifetime to address.
Good info my Friend.
I picked up the Taurus Deputy in 45 colt last week. Honestly its the first Taurus I've owned. So far im absolutely loving it. One smooth 4 click :) revolver. Thumbs-up ~John
Great video❤. Love the breakdown of differences between them.
Thank you for the nice compliment, Richard.
Good review, my first revolver was a Ruger sp101.....now I have a windicaror eaa .357 snub and a poly Judge .
You have a nice collection. I had a stainless Judge years ago but sold it. Now I'm thinking of getting a poly Judge and doing a review on it. Should be lots of fun.
I have had a fascination with revolvers since I was a little boy. I'm 60 now. I was mesmerized by my dad's Iver Johnson .38 S&W when he opened his briefcase at the hotel in L.A. we had just flown in from San Francisco (he had that briefcase on the plane). I had a little trouble being good with a revolver. I think it was my trigger control, but two revolvers I shot well were my S&W model 29 6" barrel and my old nickle S&W M&P model 10. I have wanted a short barreled .38 for quite some time. Fun comparison.
Good morning Steve. I bet that Iver Johnson was a hoot to shoot. The first centerfire handgun I ever shot, more than fifty years ago, was my dad's nickel S&W Model 10. I recently bought an older nickel Model 10 and it brought back a lot of good memories I have with my dad. Here is that Model 10 video if you are interested: ua-cam.com/video/9_7rttOVjPw/v-deo.html
@mixup98 yeah that old Iver Johnson. I think I had to school my brothers that it didn't shoot .38 special😁. That gun got stolen, buried in the hills of Thousand Oaks, California. The police caught the guy and got some of the guns back. The old Iver was never the same after that. My brother has my 5" m&p now because I am very sick. For some reason I could shoot that decent (double action) and my model 29 with light loads, I could shoot that well. Thanks Mixup for the link to that other video! Take Care, God bless you with continued health and many more days of shooting!
The Taurus has the Smith style push button cylinder release and the Rock Island has the Colt style pull button.
Smith began using the front cylinder pin lock to enhance lock up.
I found your channel about a year ago, and after six months of watching I wanted to add a 38 to go with my semi’s. I contemplated the Rock Island but went with the Taurus in the 3” model. Very happy with it. Not as good as a Smith but a fine firearm. Thank you for your videos
Glad you picked the Taurus. Triple lockup points vs the single lockup point makes the big difference. You almost always get what you pay for.
1:31 Look at that angle of the hammer on the Taurus and then that of the Rock Island, when the rock island hammer os pulled back in the firing mode, look how close the hammer would get to the shooter's hand
I was on my way to buy a Rock Island at Turners in Santa Maria and stopped in at a small gun shop to see what they might have in the way of a small revolver. They had a used 856 for $50 less than what I was going to spend on the Rock Island.....No Brainer! Very happy with my Taurus though I don't find it fun at the range. The felt recoil from a small/light 38spl to me is more than the felt recoil from my 6.5in barrel .357 Ruger Blackhawk.
It’s always good to find a deal on a nice revolver!
I have two Taurus revolvers one is the poly protector snub-nosed in 357 mag. My second Taurus revolver is the Judge with the six inch barrel, and 2- 3/4 cylinder chambered in 410/45 LC. Love both of them and my next purchase will be the Rock Island revolver with the 3 inch barrel can't wait to get one after the holidays.
I have three Taurus revolvers and they are all well built workhorses. And the difference in price for the S & W models of the same caliber is hundreds more. Fit and finish are excellent.
Its not next Saturday yet, but here I am!
I like my Taurus 856 +P Defender three inch snub a lot. Thanks for sharing.
You're not alone. Best bang for the buck! Mine goes everywhere with me. 👍
same here!!!
Iv had a revolver i have carried for over 20 years now and i love it just a Taurus 85 and 2 speed loaders love it. When im i the woods i carry bigger guns but in general its my 38spl revolver on most my days now.
I carried S&W models 60 & 66 for duty weapons in the 70&80’s and they both served me well. Decided to buy a 642 airweight to carry in my back pocket around the farm. Hated the trigger pull and how the cylinder rolled out. Started losing the finish on the aluminum. Sent it to S&W twice. They returned it in the same condition. Worst handgun I own and haven’t bought a smith since. They didn’t seem to care. I would definitely consider a Taurus before I bought another smith.
They won’t miss my business and I won’t miss their product and service.
Just wanted to share my opinion.
Thanks for the video Mixup & son.
Love the wood grips. So much easier to conceal.
Great review, thank you from another revolver guy!!!
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Much better design with the Taurus revolver !!
I really learned a lot, good info. My first revolver I bought in 1978, ruger security six. Thanks
I bought my Security Six three years after you bought yours. Love that revolver.
@ very nice revolvers, went through police academy with it. You guys are the best.
Very informative, thanks!
I would love to see a review of the newly introduced Heritage Roscoe revolver!
I prefer the Rock Island with the black rubber grips.
Nothing like a good revolver in my opinion. Thanks for the video.
I’ve got that exact Taurus. I put a spring kit and VZ grips and tritium front sight. What a great revolver
My M200 came with both wooden grips and the hard plastic. I got this one for $200.00. in Oregon. Loads of range fun.
Like your videos, I've got the 206 and the 200. Haven't had a nickels worth of trouble out of either.
Well I do have a Rock Island 200 that I am very fond of. I did buy a set of 206 grips to put on it, Do not shoot it a lot but I trust it enough that it is the revolver of choice to live next to my bed. Which to me says a lot, but may not speak as loud to others.
The only revolver i have is a heritage rough rider, always wanted to get something with more power! I like the revolver videos.
I think you would enjoy shooting a .38 special or even a .357 mag revolver. I'm glad that you like my revolver videos and I am sure I will be posting many more in the future.
@@mixup98 Please keep em coming!!!!
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Very well done comparison.
These days, what with YT changing the algorithm or something, I am having fewer and fewer shooting sports videos recommended to me. I am glad I ran into you under a category called shooting range (or similar). Subscribed
Hello pacanis and welcome to my channel. UA-cam is making it harder and harder to post shooting videos which is why you are seeing less of them. I plan on being around for a long time and I'm glad you found my channel. I want to also thank you for subscribing to my channel. I try to post one or two videos per week, depending on the weather.
I have the 206 and a Taurus in another caliber and I like the trigger on the 206 a lot more. Both fine pieces.
Having no intention of shooting thousands of rounds through a revolver, and not wanting to spend S&W, Colt, or Kimber-type purchase prices, I bought a Taurus 856 Exec. Grade (for well-below MSRP), and have been completely happy, both mechanically and cosmetically. We'd all agree, having a nearby desert for a shooting range would be fun.
Great video. Excellent comparison at the beginning. 👍😎🇺🇸
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed the video. 👍😎
Best gun vlog on UA-cam! Keep the videos coming mixup and keep showing us your take on wheel guns! Making my retirement good.
I have all 3 and I like the rockisland way better
Great video comparing the 2, thanks for sharing