1 Body Count vs. 100+ Body Count: Who Gets the Girl?
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- Опубліковано 25 гру 2023
- Is it okay to ask someone for their body count in dating? How much should it matter? Today I’m reacting to a Cut video where a woman chooses from among seven men based on their body count. Let’s get into it.
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So sleeping with 100's of people makes you worthy of praise nowadays, huh? I don't wanna be like that.
I think this girl took it as an indication of how much women like him and she’s a woman soooo 😂
To a lot of women, it is because it means he a catch if that many women wanted to sleep with him on top of that it means he probably good in bed too
Just shows how sexually depraved we have become as a society
No, it’s just that society has changed so that it’s not considered moral or pious to denigrate people for having sexual partners. Die mad about it.
@@briannajenellwell let's be honest you might not have a hundred. But we all know you have at least more than five 👌😁😁
The whole idea of needing "experience" is ridiculous. I've been married to my husband since I was 21. We didn't have a "body count." It's been so fun learning about each other, and I am grateful that I don't have to even consider any of his prior experiences.
What's important is if both of you are committed to caring for that person. If you are, you will have a successful sex life.
Exactly. I'm a virgin and I agree.
@LilShredd quick, a sacrifice for the volcanoe before you are caught in a trap! Kidding of course, good for you!
@@slaapliedje No regrets
@@LilShredd I’m a virgin too! Keep up the good work! Amen!
@LilShredd Yeah, as a dude, it is almost a stigma... at 25 I finally decided to just get it over with.
I was a virgin on my wedding night. Married almost 18 years and my body count is 1 - my husband.
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Awwww! 🥹 I want that so badly.
As it should be. I'm hoping the pendulum starts swinging back to where a zero body count before marriage is highly valued in society.
Same 🙋🏻♀️ lost my virginity on my honeymoon almost 15 years ago and will never regret it!
You're a unicorn
Wow…body count isn’t indicative of sexual experience. The amount of times I’ve told a female friend that I was a virgin and they’re like “awww” cause they think they have more experience than me. When I over hear them talk about their experiences it mostly consists of them just laying there lol. I’m a dancer and at least know how to move my body wtf. I’m ok with saving myself for the right person.
Fuck them (not literally haha) and good for you. Don’t let anyone make you feel bad for your decision.
😂exactly
Yes don’t let them talk down to you. When you love someone and you marry them… the emotional and passion of it all will create the right environment…. You don’t need to sleep around to gain that
Women by nature are attracted to Men with Social proof.
and what if your body count is one but you guys it 3 times a day for 5 years straight, trying new things all throughout, the other person could have a body count of 50 but if they were all one night stands with someone who was only using them for their own pleasure. Who you think is going to be more experienced in this scenario?
If you are getting in a relationship with ANYONE it should be a acceptable question.
yeah nah, i’d leave if a man asked me that. incredibly uncomfortable and degrading question. i’ve never met a stable and decent man that talked about “body count”. just undateable incels and misogynists.
if “body count” is really such an incredibly important factor for relationship success, you’ll know right away if someone has a high one or not.
@lmr1049 being offended by a potential romantic partner asking you about your number of past romantic partners is itself a major red flag.
It’s about getting STD tested
@@lmr1049You taking offense to an important sign on whether a relationship will work or not shows that your number is high. Women with burnt out social bonding ability is not capable of being a stable relationship. Nor are they capable of bonding with any potential future children they may have.
Its an acceptable question. But. You don't ask. If you gotta ask she is giving you sus vibes. You never ask a woman her age & body. Never ask a man his salary. And you never ask a German company what they did between 1933-1945.
If you gotta ask it's a bad sign for the relationship. 😂
I think one of the biggest problems less talked about is how living a promiscuous lifestyle will harm the intimacy you share/will share with your spouse. Whether you are a man or a woman, sex loses its beauty when not done out of love, commitment, respect, loyalty, and I’m sure many other things. Sex is meant to be a symbol and display of these, so if either party (men or women) sleeps with others simply because they feel like it, what does their intimacy represent? It certainly wouldn’t imply loyalty… probably not genuine love either. A man certainly isn’t respecting a woman if he sleeps with her just because; especially if he claims that by doing so she is “devalued”. Like, no sir, you are “devaluing” her which is not something to be proud of (and I put those words in quotations because I don’t think people can lose their value… dignity and respect, sure, but not their value). Plus, you best believe I don’t want a man who boasts about how little sex and intimacy means to him. The flag doesn’t get much redder than that.
As a Christian I believe it is best to wait until marriage, but I think most of us can agree that sex, or other forms of intimacy - heck, even just our actions in general - shouldn’t be done so flippantly.
The Christian virgin reading this agrees with you. Don't be afraid to tell the truth!
It all goes back to your foundational beliefs as a Christian, you’re not being objective here. And that’s fine! But let’s hop off that moral high horse because your lifestyle isn’t the rubric.
So true! I've heard stories of friends and marriages where the husband still didn't value them even though they had been virgins when they got married. It's about how a person views intimacy. Is it a selfish act? Is a shared experience with someone you love to bring you closer?
@@raquanwilliams5572
[Quick FYI before you read: I’ve been writing a lot of essays recently, so I’m sorry if my tone comes across a little weird. I’m still in academic mode and a little frazzled from finals and busy holidays 😅
Speaking of which I hope you had a wonderful Christmas!!]
You’re right. My opinions are informed by the worldview I hold to, and I don’t pretend otherwise. Likewise, I am not always trying to speak subjectively. While I do believe there are plenty of things that are subjective, I think it is also important to search for things that are objectively good and beautiful, which I try to pursue via my belief in God. I believe it is an objective truth that sex is meant to be a beautiful thing shared between two people who have committed their lives to one another through matrimony. That’s my premise.
In some ways, I think the intimacy (and I mean general intimacy not just sex) between a husband and wife is supposed to symbolize the relationship and closeness we have with God. God’s love for us is loyal, forgiving, respectful, faithful, and perfect, and I see no reason why, whether God is real or not, that I should strive for anything different.
I do apologize if either of my comments came across as pretentious or self righteous. I can assure you that I have no notion of being better than anyone else. The Bible says we all sin, that none of us are good, and I don’t exclude myself from that. There is a reason Jesus had to die a horrific death, and it wasn’t because I am a good person. When I pursue what I believe to be objective and true I am not trying to speak as if any of this “goodness” is coming from me or my lifestyle. You are right in saying that my lifestyle is not the rubric; rather, I’m trying to understand the good and perfect design/lifestyle God intended for his children before we sinned and turned away from him.
I am doing my best to pursue Jesus’ perfect rubric. I fail… a lot, because my imperfect lifestyle is, well, imperfect, but that is why I want to pursue God’s way all the more. God has brought me through some hard times, and I can’t imagine a more perfect example of love than what he has shown me.
I understand this seems irrelevant or nonsensical if you don’t believe in God, but I was hoping my initial comment would help us all find some common ground regarding the common search I think we all have for finding someone who loves and respects us (within or outside of marriage). I also wanted to talk about the implications of how and when different forms of intimacy (or perception of what intimacy is) can help or harm a relationship. I would love to hear your thoughts on it if you want to share. Even if we disagree that doesn’t mean I care less about your opinions and insight! If you have any questions or criticisms I would love to hear those as well :)
@@LilShredd The Christian virgin has, by definition, no idea what they're talking about.
As a woman, body count matters to me for myself. It's about self-respect. If you give yourself away to everybody then who's going to want you for themselves? The same body count goes for men too. The idea of someone sleeping with so many people is quite gross to me. I have a friend who slept with three different men within one day. I literally told her I wanted to vomit when I heard the story.
Makes sense, I would say it should matter for men, too. Imo, the whole concept of "experience" and "being successful with women" is bs.
Oh that’s gross
I'm of the opinion that if a guy wants a girl with a low to 0 body count, he should also have a low to 0 body count. Its idiotic to have the double standard. That goes for the girls too.
We can all fall prey to lust, part of being a responsible human being is at least attempting to keep it under control, and ya know, NOT sleep with just anyone who will throw it out.
Edit: Shes 100% right, guys generally (not necessarily always) but MOST OF THE TIME will never give a singular shit about star sign stuff, unless they think it'll get them with a girl. Even more so if they are the ones that bring it up, cause the guys that are interested in that stuff are conditioned to never mention it.
Totally agree!
I agree with that actually, I’m a dude but when I see dudes talking about women like that I’m just like nah you got it bro. I don’t think every woman sleeps around just like how I know every dude isn’t the same.
Definitely it has to be this fair. I quite hate it when red pillars say they want a girl with a few partners to zero when they can’t even practice the same discipline with themselves in terms of being pure. They make up the excuse of how men and women are different (which is true and applies to most instances) but not inherently when it comes to psychological affects.
Men and women are different and want different things.
Women in large don't really care, which is why they tend to choose men with "more experience" and like the confidence it builds in those men.
Men by nature are territorial and don't like the idea of investing time and resources into women who have been "shared" with tons of other men. The fewer partners she's had, the more specific she feels just to you.
**This is why a car is often used as an analogy because the more miles it has, the lower its Blue Book value.
@@ryandeffley7652 This feels like an issue with people still viewing women as property, which is never okay unless the woman wants to be treated that way. Anyone who sleeps with a lot of people is a huge, HUGE red flag to me. May not be for other people, but that just screams damaged and impulsive to me. No thanks. Also, I think you are wrong when you say most women don't care. I think they do. We are just not going to be as vocal about it because of generational social conditioning. It has pretty much always been more socially accepted for men to sleep around. If you think that's not a factor in how women express their opinion or even what opinion they have, you're mistaken.
It's absolutely ok. There is nothing wrong with protecting yourself by inquiring how disease-ridden or how likely to cheat the person you're seeing might be.
How is a Bodycount telling anything about the likelyhood of cheating ?
@gsnakeu studies have actually proven that women who have had a lot of partners have problems forming the relationship pair bond and are far more likely to cheat. Deny it if you want but its just facts. Another fact, did you know women store the dna of every man they couple with in their bodies? It NEVER goes away. You will maintain bits of dna from every man you sleep with for the rest of your life. Is this what causes that issue with pair bond? They dont know yet but boy is it creepy. Thank god my mom raised me not to have a ho phase 🙏
statistics, multiple study's show that the more people you've had sex with, the higher the odds of cheating, wich makes sense considering you will be comparing the current person with all other ones@@gsnakeu
@@gsnakeuold habits rarely dies. They most likely to cheat and give birth to a child that isn't even mine and lie to me before its too late.
@@gsnakeu well in my experience, excessive sexual promiscuity is moreso an indicator for a lack of self control. Most likely some deeper underlying issues are present as well... possibly a sex addiction or porn addiction. That doesn't go away just because someone is in a relationship. Also it can indicate a lack of personal boundaries which can blur the lines considerably when it comes to their moral compass.
It’s so weird to hear the words “body count” because that used to mean how many people a mobster/gangster had killed!
Body count MUST be part of the conversation in EVERY relationship. Primarily to prevent STDS - if you can’t have that convo, likely not mature enough to be safe. Secondly you’ll find if that person shares intentions and values. A man with no/low body count is sexy.
I was dating a guy and a few months in he revealed his 90+ body count. He then went travelling, gave me an STI and then joked that he was probably over 100 now. It's definitely something I look for now!
Holy fuck that’s terrible😭
What was yours at the time? 50? 40?
how did he give you the std tho??
@@joshua50101 5 lol
@@cassie8844 he didn't tell me he'd slept with anyone and lived at my house for 3 weeks when he came back
I have always felt that a high body count person is dirty, they have a much higher chance of having had an STD, a much higher chance of having had an abortion or a child they don't know about. If you want a long lasting marriage body count matters.
Especially concerning the STD part, not only does the person who has slept with myriads of people enter your "sexual contact cycle" after you've had sex with them, but so does everyone who has slept with that person in the past, and everyone who has had intercourse with these people, etc. You'll end up with an astronomically high amount of people that count as being part of your "STD-cycle", you're just bound to catch one at that point.
@@emilyk1109Like a very dirty spiderweb.
Can we all agree high body count is disgusting, regardless of gender?
And mental health issues. Every single person whom I've ever met, regardless of gender, who had a high body count always had a personality disorder or a serious mental health issue.
Intention and context matters imo
I dont really believe In making blanket statements/assumptions
For me high body count in anyone is kind of nasty. Maybe I'm prude I don't know but people who sleeping around have 0 value in my eyes. It's in general a quality of someone who is a possible cheater and someone who is not able to settle down. Of course I don't say about people who had more than 5 relationships in the spawn of 5 years for example because they were dating one person and as long as they sure that person is healthy it's fine. I'm saying about people who always hooking up with strangers treating their bodies like a trash can. It's not bad to have expirience and it's not right to say men can sleep around when women can't. If a man is sleeping around he is definitely deserve a woman who does the same and they both can have each other.
Facts
If someone has a high body count I assume all it takes is frivolous qualities about a person for them to hop into the sack with. It seems that person is not likely to be happy with monogamy.
You are not a prude, you are just normal lol
@@jice7074 People like this always saying that monogamy doesn't exsist and it's going through history. I do not agree it's just being a person with sex addiction going through history. I met people who were not happy in marriage but did not cheat because it's against their beliefs. What's disturbing is that they are looking for someone "pure" but they think they can sleep with everyone because "it doesn't mean I have feelings for them"
@@miiina19 what's good for the goose is good for the gander. I always get annoyed when guys try to act like it's so different while arguing bodycount and I'm a guy.
I respect if people want to be in a relationship with a virgin or someone with really low body count. But just be prepared to match that. If guy wants to marry a virgin that's his right to have that outlook but a girl has the same right. And usually here we see a lot of hypocrisy, guys who want virgins are never virgins themselves.
You don't have to be the thing that you prefer to date...women prefer masculine men, they don't have to be masculine themselves or else it's hypocrisy.
Virtuous women want virtuous men they wouldn't be virtuous if they didn't value virtue. It's not that hard to understand. Men are finding it hard to find virgins because the virgins are avoiding them. They don't know how to spot virtuous women because they don't know what chastity looks like or how these women behave
That's because most of the time because men and women are different we look for different things
@@Hatrimn if you think women want to share their husband with a bunch of other women, then you don't understand women at all... any time you marry someone who has slept around you are sharing them with every person they were with. all those people f**ked your spouse. neither men nor women like that typically.
A man who is a virgin is probably a weirdo, an incel or a religious fanatic and likely undesirable. Very few women are virgins when they get married.
I gained the most “experience” with my husband , learning and growing together as one - instead of trying to get that experience through numerous people. I promise it worth it to get married and settle down! It’s the best
I’m a 33-year-old virgin, and I don’t mind it. It is what it is 🤷🏻♀️ I personally would love if a man told me he too is a virgin or has a very low count. I don’t understand society’s obsession with sex and why we need to be so experienced and blah blah. What’s wrong with being with someone who doesn’t know much about what they are doing either - you both can have fun figuring it out!! 😂😂😈
When you finally have sex you will understand. Lousy sex can be a relationship killer.
@@briannajenell
Hi 👋 i know you from ap s channel
Same as you and i'm proud to be a virgin at 38. Because I am looking for quality not quantity.
@@Mikinaak2023”when you finally have sex you’ll understand” I’m genuinely curious if you’re aware of how rude you were. Some people don’t view sex the way you do, it isn’t their end all, be all.
If sex is important to YOUR relationship, fine. But you have zero right to tell STRANGERS what they’ll enjoy when you don’t even know them. Some of us don’t mind “lousy sex” at first of it means we get to stick by our partner’s side and discover each others’ likes and dislikes, displaying loyalty and devotion to one person.
Don’t let society bully you. My husband and I were both our firsts and you grow together. People who say “bad s*x matters” don’t understand love and selflessness.
I've never understood the argument of women racking up numbers, because it's "more acceptable" for men to sleep around. Your standards are your standards, don't lower yourself because you can get away with it.
The issue I have with the issue of body count is men say a woman shouldn't sleep with a ton of men, but men can sleep with whoever they want. If a man has a high body count and expects you to have a low one, he's insecure and hypocritical. He will probably also not find you sufficient enough and will continue sleeping with whoever he wants. I think everyone should be expected to have low body counts.
Sleeping with multiple women is difficult for a man though, if a man can sleep with multiple women, he is a master key
Also he probably “caught them all” as far as diseases go sooooo… yuck.
its women that respect a man who sleeps with a lot of women tho
Agreed. One man, one woman as God intended.
There's generally two arguments for why a man can have a high body count but still be seen as desirable the first is that women control access to sex unless a crime is being committed a guy has to woo a woman into being willing to allow him access to her body, the second is somewhat related to the first women tend to find value in things other women do so a man that has been valued enough to share themselves with by multiple women is seen as valuable compared to a guy that has had limited encounters(most insults hurled at men for decades now deal with their inability to get or inadequacies in sex).
It's more liberating, in my opinion, to have a low body count! I guess there's just something about being able to say no and save yourself for the man you intend to spend the rest of your life with... Just me??🤷♀️
Most women wanna get married eii?
@@sly_g I certainly did! I'm 35 and have been with my husband since I was 18😊
@@ashley_atthetable wow good for you lol.
Not just you!!!
@@TheTewjr I would hope not😅 or else society is in more trouble than I thought😂😂
How someone approaches sex and their general views on sex is something you’ll find out as you’re dating. I would be interested in their views on monogamy, cheating, when they’re comfortable having sex, how they treat people they have sex with, etc. I do believe there is a general correlation with very high number of sexual partners and less respectful treatment of each partner, so I could see factoring that in. But then again, since it’s really the values and behaviors I’d be more interested in, I’ll find that out with or without that number.
@@Rimedur I think you meant polyamory or polygamy because monogamy is a single partner an "open relationship" wouldn't be considered monogamous.
@@RoseyVampit's not stupid. At a certain point you just have a low standard of who you give access of your body to. That's basically a polygamous mindset and that person is probably not fit for a monogamous relationship.
@@Rimedur Monogamy is literally the complete opposite of an open relationship
That's exactly the point. Body count is really only a proxy for values, and frankly I think it's far from a perfect one. Someone with a body count of two might be a cheater who just didn't have a lot of opportunity; someone with a count of 20 or more might have been used or groomed and had to break free from that awful programming.
What your "count" means is only useful as a by-product of how you approach sex, and the value you put on intimacy and exclusivity with others.
Yes totally agree, the number isn’t the important thing, it’s more about the relationship to sex and how compatible your values are
As a woman in her 20's, I want a guy with an almost zero count. I am waiting for marriage and I want my future spouse to wait as well. If he has in the past been with two people, I'd probably be able to make it work, if he's a Christian and recommitted to waiting for marriage.
I think it's absolute B.S. when guys say that all women are whores and then I say I'm a virgin and they try to brag about their 5+ body count. Why brag about something you just shamed women for? It ticks me off so much. And another thing that ticks me off is when people don't count oral sex. Sex is literally in the name but if you factor that in, the number often takes a jump.
Overall, men and women should both save themselves for marriage and not commit adultery after marriage. But, people who have made mistakes in their pasts and have repented should not be barred from marriage.
Because sex is easier to get for women. A man with a high body count is much, much rarer than a woman with a high body count. Women control access to sex.
Well said.
Your comment hives me hope for a women with the right mindset. I have 2 as count. The last one was 5 years ago and i regret the second one. It was to fast. And then it clicked in me. I knew i need to work on myself. And thats what i am doing. I am 31 years old. I dont except an virgin. I date in my age range +-4 years. I that time where we life, its ok to have some partners but only if its not just one night stands. If you dated and then slept with him, its ok. I am old, so everyone has life experience. I did write to much 😅
I wish you the best and i hope you find your right one 😊
Thank you
Question would you get with a Beta Male/ Nice Guy ?
I think the “get fucked” answer might be at issue here 😂😂😂😂
Right? I was like, the irony... 😂
The irony, is that the 100+ man gets the girl more often, but the 1 body count man gets the quality woman.
I was raised with saving yourself for marriage, my partner very much was not. He is so ashamed that he slept around before he met me. But I will say that in raising our kids, we have been very open with them about the good and bad decisions we made in life, and they get 2 very different viewpoints, and 99% of the time he tells our kids that the way I did it was the better way, and he hopes our kids grow up doing things closer to the way I did. I don't like thinking that he could compare me to women that came before me, and also in the back of our minds we worry some kid will pop up at our door one day and tell him hes their dad. I don't think sleeping around is worth that.
Odds are you would not have been attracted to him in the first place if he were also a virgin. Without that experience, he probably would have been less confident and competent, more awkward, and therefore no chemistry.
@Hatrimn there is more to love and marriage then sex. If "experience" in sex is the only thing keeping the relationship, its already a failure.
@@HatrimnConfidence has nothing to do with whether you stuck your pp in a hole or not. I know some guys that are even more confident than I am as a non-virgin and they’re virgins. I also know a few that lack confidence and had sex with at least one person. And not every virgin is a so-called “incel”. Has everyone seriously forgot that there are virgins by choice? So your argument is rather fallacious.
@@Hatrimn How to prove you have a high body count.
Past behaviors are a great indicator of possible future behaviors. So, knowing what that past behavior was should happen before any decision on a long term relationship is made.
I’m a 25 year old virgin (also a chick, for whatever that’s worth) and the physical side of sex doesn’t appeal to me AT ALL. Never has. The idea of being intimate and trying to please someone I love and am devoted to, who is putting the same effort into me that I put into them, though? That sounds… pretty nice.
I’m asexual, and I try not to be judgmental over stuff like this. I just wish the same respect could be returned. My sister and her boyfriend (who are in a polyamorous relationship and both of whom identify as pansexual) really don’t mind belittling me for not being into sex, though. Straight up got called a freak because I don’t watch porn.
I’m PROUD of not watching porn, but that was pretty hurtful, still. Worse yet when my sister said nothing and enabled such insults. When I said the idea of a quickie was completely unappealing to me, they were VERY condescending, saying I’d “change my mind when I had sex.”
It just really peeves me off that these two want acceptance to live the way they do judgment free, and yet they’re the first to criticize others when they don’t agree with them.
The audacity of supposed pansexuals calling an asexual a freak. You're perfectly fine.
Agree - why are people so into judging others these days. Find someone similar to you and your values and interests and build on that.
@@melitajay Thank you. That’s kinda what I thought, too. And I may be asexual, but I also value freedom and freedom to have differing opinions. I’d MUCH rather hang out with someone against gay marriage, but still treats me with respect and dignity as a person than some other LGBTQ+ folk who are outright authoritarians and call anyone in disagreement with them bigots.
Do people who try to force their ideology on others not realize they’re no better than the overtly religious who attempt to forcefully evangelize others? It’s literally the EXACT same thing.
I’m a Christian first and foremost, before any other aspect of who I am. The second greatest gift God gave us (after sending Jesus to die on the cross for all of us sinners) is free will. Jesus doesn’t want anything forced on anyone, He instructs His followers not to force Him onto others, as it will turn people away.
Apparently the LGBTQ+ community didn’t get that memo. You can’t force anyone to accept you, you can’t force anyone to get along. Doing so will result in violence, but that seems to be what extremists on every side wants.
I just pray Jesus comes back soon. The amount of hate in the world is so disheartening.
@@RWB20 I tend to think that a lot of people think THEIR way is THE way and the only way, so they try to force it on everyone. That’s not how it works.
Wow they sound like degenerates 🤷🏻♀️ people who sleep around with multiple people are like animals, they lack any self control and self respect imo I don’t care if I sound judgmental, I cannot respect people who don’t respect themselves.
It’s extremely important because your health is in question. You don’t need to be with anyone who won’t tell you or wants to skip that question. Even if someone had a promiscuous past and changed, you still need to know. People need to just be honest. STDs are spread because people won’t be honest or just won’t take their health seriously. We also need to talk about adults not having the self control to just not sleep around in the first place. That would greatly decrease this discussion.
You can get an STD from one person. I agree we need to destigmatize STDs and shaming people for having a high body count and assuming they'd be dirty as a result is not going to help it at all. It'll only encourage lying.
I'd have to disagree with this slightly in terms of STD's. One never take anyone's word for it and if they have slept with anyone they should be willing to get an STD test with you because you can get an STD from just the wrong person. All it takes is someone to lie or cheat on you and you contracted no fault of your own. This is not a body count question but a medical history question.
You can have 1 body count and have an STD. Idc what you tell me your body count is you're showing me your std and hiv/aids screenings before we have sex. You can get herpes and genital warts even if you're using a condom.
@@sweetprincess213 Although you are right in the sense that we shouldn't always take a person's word for it and we should encourage our partner to take an STD test before sex if needed, knowing the body count can help because it helps you assess how high risk they are for it. There are also STDs that lay dormant in the body but you can still pass it on to the opposite gender or to people who are vulnerable to it and it will manifest. Asking isn't a guarantee that you are safe from it but it does help.
Amala is such a gem. Because of her I still hold faith in finding a good woman one day.
Trust me you will find a good woman, they just become more and more sparse
@@redvixo will most likely hit the jackpot before then
Current dating market is a total shit-show and I refuse to be a part of it. For once in my adult life, I'm focused on myself instead of the opposite sex.
Hey Amala, you are 💯 percent right about a man asking about astrology.
100% agreed!!! That 100+ guy is a walking red flag 🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩
He just wants to sleep with the girl, nothing more. He plays with her emotions by doing that, making her look special when in reality she's just another prop that gets dumped after that one sex act.
Reserving sex for someone you love is liberation.
Well for most women; fewer men.
I fucking despise hookup culture. It makes it so hard to find someone worth building a relationship with. People are so deluded now.
That first girl is so insufferable. No logic, just pure emotional bullshit.
Wonder how she would react to her boyfriend cheating on her. With that personality she probably doesn't have one anyway.
The "conversation" that she thinks should be had was going on when I was dating in 1988. It's been revealed to me that some women don't want men to be less promiscuous, but for women to be AS slutty... without being shamed for it.
She was obviously triggered because her body count is extremely high.
Bingo@@vpg8000
She's right the example key and locks is bullshit
In my opinion, and this is tempered by age and experience, nunya. Now, having said that, I will point out that I'm 70 and have seen a lot. I've also been with my wife for over 20 years and I don't cheat and never have. Didn't before we met. It's all about compatibility and commitment. What happened before I committed is the past. It's irrelevant.
I will say this though. A man who thinks it's ok for him to have that high body count but disapproves it for women is a hypocrite. It is no different. All that bs about the sexes being different in this is a rational so he can get laid. I've seen that garbage all my life. It was garbage when I was twenty and it's garbage today.
It is so weird to hold men and women to different standards when it comes to sexual experience and "body counts." Approaching sex ethically and respectfully is important for both sexes!
exactly! thank you for saying this
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@adrianasolari492 they don't, this is a critically only take and syndrome please go out and actually talk to real people not youtubers who are going to repeat your opinions back to you. It's like an echo chamber full of people that don't touch grass. Real people don't give a shit.
@@Name.......... I could say the same to you 😭 if you’re this passionate the internet isn’t going to support you necessarily
It is not weird to judge different things differently. Women do not have to qualify for sex, men do. That's why men who fail at attracting any partners are considered losers or incels, while women do not get these labels. It takes effort for men to be desirable, it takes effort for women to withhold sex. That is the sexual dynamic, yin and yang. We are not the same.
Not to mention men and women respond to sex differently. Women, who are more selective and emotional by nature, are also more susceptible to psychological damage with increasing partners.
I did not know what a body count was until I listened to you. I only had one man and that was my husband. Still together after being married after 54 years.
I think one day we will look back on these times and realize that hookup culture was something bad about this time in human history and most people will agree. One thing that probably needs to happen is for men ( I’m a men) to stop glorifying many sexual partners and realize the effect that their mindset is having on the culture, it’s time to start valueing other things, things that better relations between men and women and will create a more sustainable culture for families to form, grow, and function in.
I’m a virgin. So body count matters to me. Enough said.
I haven’t finished the video yet, but I think asking about body count is totally fair game if you are genuinely interested in dating someone. I think it’s weird that some people feel like you shouldn’t have to tell them. There has to be honesty in a relationship. Plus, preferences are completely valid, and especially if you’ve been chaste, it’s only natural that you would have a preference for people who did the same.
I don’t think body count necessarily indicates anything bad about people as significant others, though, but it _can_ so this definitely should be on the table to be discussed.
It 100 tells you about the person and they're mental state, but the rest I agree with
@@golden.personalityElliot Rogers, a man with 0 body count, enters the chat...
@@mynameiselvispresleygirlsa5911 Are you implying I'm an incel?
I personally find it justifiable for someone to be interested whether I'm a promiscuous person or not, because I'm not interested in being with someone who is promiscuous either. But there are ways to know that about the other person as you get to know them, seeing their behavior, their values and their opinions. If someone I was considering dating asked me the "body count" question like that, I wouldn't consider that person for future dates. Not only because is it disrespectful, it also shows that they need a number, because they are unable to read the people in front of them, they are unable to judge someone based on their character. And that also denotes a lack of maturity and intelligence.
@@lunaazul1569 What abt someone like myself who wants to lose his virginity to a girl and be with her for the rest of my life. I don't think that'd be rude
We've become so alienated that the only way we can describe our relationships is by number. Male or female doesn't matter. But here's the truth, the more 'bodies' the more that the ability to trust deeply gets impaired.
I think the discussion of body count is less important than understanding someone's current mindset regarding sexuality. Personally, I've greatly changed since my regrettable younger days. However, at the end of the day, everyone is allowed to have preferences. So if my body count deters someone from wanting to be with me, we probably weren't meant for each other to begin with lol.
Perfectly said
We generally tend to assume that the “body count” is an indicator of your mindset regarding sexuality. I agree that we would want to see that you are no longer trying out a bunch of guys and only sleeping with men you could commit to.
I pretty much 100% agree with that, I was significantly more "active" when I was a teenager. I regret a lot of it.
Usually my questions now on early dates would be... "When was the last time you were *with* a guy". Because I don't want to go out with someone who can't go two weeks without banging a stranger. 😅
Now if they are actually truthful with me, who's to say.
@TraditionalAnglican Yeah, that's fair. I guess in general I just prefer to take the context of an action more in to consideration than the action itself. But to each their own, yknow?
A thread of very like minded people haha
I completely understand the arguments and the importance of keeping body count low in order to find a quality partner one day…
But people do and can change over time, and the choices they’ve made in the past don’t always reflect the choices they make in the present. Berating or judging people (within reason) for their body count is like shaming people for previously using drugs, but currently being clean and sober, or someone who used to believe in ridiculous ideologies that they no longer subscribe to… like, you can’t shame someone into changing something they already chose to do. The damage is done. While we have every freedom and right to turn someone down based on any characteristic we deem appropriate, it _can be_ a shame to do so just because you don’t appreciate something they’ve done prior to you.
I say this as someone who gained a higher body count in my younger adult years. I can firmly say now that if I could go back, I’d change all of it. But I can’t. I’m not that person making those choices going through those struggles anymore.
So… am I too tainted to be worthy of a quality partner?
Honestly, my rule for relationships is we don’t ask for a number. No body count discussion. Most men I’ve been with either get jealous if it’s more than them or get nervous if it’s less. Like the one dude said on this video, he doesn’t want someone with too little experience. I’ve run into that- some men are jealous of me having more partners than they have and feel inadequate and some feel like if a woman has had less partners, they will have to “teach and guide” them.
I don’t mind being honest in my relationship and saying that it’s more than I’d like to admit. But I don’t want to know theirs, either.
Frankly, if I know someone’s heart in the present and the more recent past… I just don’t care.
We’ve all done shit we can’t change.
*We are not the sum of of our mistakes.*
I'm with you 100%, I relate to everything you said. In my earlier twenties, similar scenario. I was also someone who didn't pick up on things, aka realize I was dealing with douche bags. Which ended up hiking my count as well, but I don't wear it like a metal like some girls i guess. I accept that I made mistakes that I would now go back and stop myself. Bc of my interactions, it made me think bad of a lot of men. That all just play and lie, and that a good majority do. So why it that not a part of this topic? Bc guys will sell you the dream and once they have what they want. Byeeeee. So that raises a body count. I haven't lost my hope for real love. But bc of my past, I'm a lot less idiotic lol. It's just now, I can smell the red flags a mile away. So the good is that I learned how to find red flags with certain behaviors that I recognize I don't like and feel familiar in that discomforting way. Now that I'm older I realize my dating fails did have a lot to do with me not being taught the quality of a real man, and settling for fools. Not all though, but the majority.
Right there with you, I made a lot of mistakes in my teens and early 20s. I've now been happily married for 12 years and have 2 kids with him. We both had higher than average body counts but chose each other. Our pasts don't affect us at all, the only thing it caused me was trauma but we worked through it together and now have a very healthy and happy marriage.
This is easily my favorite answer. It's fair, realistic and shows the capacity to be more understanding.
Loved it. Very real, very honest. My husband and I were the same case. Body count is a conversation that we never had and that we were never interested in having. I knew he had a past, just like I have one too. The way a human being acts is something that can be seen in the present, his values, how he treats you and acts with others in front of you, that is what counts. We have currently been together for 6 years and counting.
I couldn’t have said it better. I came to the comments searching for this response because it’s exactly what I wanted to say
My body count is 1 and that's my husband. We were both each others 1sts and it was so special. We've grown together so much through these years! Next year will be our 18 year anniversary.
Just because it's been re branded into 's5xually liberated' doesn't negate from the fact that is it still promiscuity. Let's call it what it is.
Yess thank you amala i was losing my sanity without you!!
People nowadays have no shame in making their sexual experiences public. Keep it to yourselves. No decency at all. Damn.
When I listened to this episode on the podcast I thought to myself how the divide is huge when to me it’s should be based on preference, some people do not care about body count whether it be men or women and some do it’s about finding the people who can fit that compatibility.
I almost got one of her many diseases just listening to her
Sure, but we should encourage people to act in a way that is healthy and affirming, which sexual promiscuity generally is not. It's usually the outcome of abuse and/or assault over a long period of time, things far, far from healthy. So we should encourage people to pick their partners wisely; have your fun, but one shouldn't be doinking every Tom, Dick, and Harry just because you can if one cares about oneself. It's disrespectful to yourself, but you're absolutely free to do it. The rest of us are then free to judge you like the self-control, self-respect lacking person that you are.
Don't feel bad for him! She's a 100+ kind of woman, he's best not to touch that!
I don't remember ever asking about body count. Last man I dated told me he was over 100. I told him I didn't want to know that. We didn't last long, too different.
I don't really care about the number, I care about what you want now and if you are going to be a good person in my life.
I think it's fair to ask someone you're in a relationship with (or thinking about it) about their body count. I know I'm turned off by guys who have slept with a lot of women too. 🤷♀️
Not trying to be sassy but, Would asking on a first date be impolite, and why?
@@golden.personality I feel like in modern day society it could be asked on a first date but depends on the vibe of the date
@@melitajay true
I love what Taylor had to say. It’s comforting to know that there are still men out there who have wisdom and strong Christian moral values 💛
I once heard a doctor say that when you have sex with someone, you are having sex with everyone that they have ever had sex with. That is to say, from a physical perspective, you are now exposed to anything they have exposed themselves to. In addition, you will expose yourself to any emotional baggage they may have picked up from those encounters.
Well these are the cold hard facts!
I don't think her decision was based on personality or body count. She based it on occupation. Some of the guys she eliminated had better personalities and lower body counts.
A woman isn’t an analogy, but apparently she’s a catchphrase.
You should have an idea if your partner has a past you should worry about, because of potential std’s, pregnancies, abortions, their treatment of relationships, their values, etc.
I really like the saying “just because you can, doesn’t mean you should”
“A woman is NOT a key”
You’re right.. she’s the lock..
That's wrong too try again
@@jeffisbettercreepypastastory, not justfiying the sentiment, but in that analogy, the woman was in fact the lock, so when she said "a woman is not a key" she was confused, in the analogy, the woman was the lock
She not a woman I want around my boys. She obviously has no respect for herself or other. High body count shows their not looking for a relationship just in it for sex. Also ups the dangers for STDs. I also think it's a red flag because there is a reason why they aren't in a long term relationship. relationship
Happy that this channel continues to be 👍 consistently great.
If either is sleeping around that much your odds are 0 of a decent marriage
The question just feels so high school to me, even the term “body count”… has a very juvenile connotation. I think it’s appropriate to discuss sexual history with a partner, but to specifically ask “how many people have you had sex with” seems trivial to me
it's a big deal. Don't downplay it.
I've also never understood why people want to date other people who have lots of "experience". If I date someone, I don't like thinking about how the other person has dated so many people before, it takes away "the magic" and makes you feel like another number in those statistics.
Well, most women get wet off of thinking about it.
Always love to hear both of your perspectives on topics like this. Hard agree with Amala, 100 is excessive and to me indicates some kind of compensation (ie, low self esteem, lack of morals, etc.)
Taylor has been probably back for a few weeks now but so glad to see him again!! Missed you Taylor! His joke about the 5 big ocean personality model was so funny LMAO
As long as it's with someone you love, having no experience doesn't matter because you'll both learn together 😊
I feel like there is a grey area with this topic. There are plenty of women who fell for situationships and when the other party got what they wanted, they scooted. Sometimes, that scenario happens more than once or twice. I feel like intent, should be a part of the conversation as well when it comes to people who have gotten cozy with more than 6 partners. Not everyone is out here tallying their experiences, some people have poor judgment and people use them. The person with poor judgment just has to wake up and realize the pattern thats causing heart break to themselves.
It's simple, don't sleep with someone without a commitment aka a ring
When the body count runs so high that it's higher than someone's age, it's not just a matter of falling into situationships that don't last long. 30 bodies at age 25 (for example) shows jumping from one person's bed to another and another is their preferred lifestyle. That doesn't make them a bad person, but it means they're probably not suitable for a long-term monogamous relationship.
@megalodon1726 That's why context is important. Also if there is a clean bill of health, I don't see why it's such a controversial thing to meet a person who's had more than 5 partners. The only thing to keep an eye out, in general, is emotionally stability. Some people aren't taught to date properly and/or have been gadlit thier whole lives, they can't trust themselves so they trust other people to a fault. Then you have people who simply don't care, which I don't understand lol.
@@Devian016, so here's an idea, wait until you know it's real, if it's just a situationship where the guy is trying to get some tail. if the woman puts off sex for a while, that guy is probably going to move on.
With that said. It's a situational thing for me. a high body count wouldn't be a deal breaker for me, i'm not with all of someone's ex partners, i'm with them. But i think a high body count would give me a preconceived notion (rightful or not is another matter) about this person, their morals, their self value, etc...
I think one of the biggest problems with debating this topic is that so many people respond to disagreements by trying to make those who disagree appear as wrong, bad, or less-than. It'd be so much easier to acknowledge disagreements on this topic as just incompatibilities and move on. Also, telling people that they're pathological one way or the other just begs for a full breakdown in effective communication. And then comes the conversation associated with dealing with rejection, which is rather childish because if you're being rejected and it hurts, ask yourself why would you want to force a relationship with someone who doesn't want you because if you could do that, it'd just be a hot recipe for misery.
my husband and I haven't asked each other that question because we both agreed that it doesn't matter to the relationship that we have together. we talk about how we've learned lessons from exes and past relationships, but we've grown together and it just doesn't matter to us. this may not be the case with everyone else but that's my experience.
I’ve been with my husband for over 25 years. We’ve never ever had to ask this question to each other ..why? because it doesn’t matter once you’ve decided to spend your life with the right one. Someone who doesn’t move on after a relationship has ended, and is more interested in numbers and totals, really hasn’t moved on at all. Unfortunately now days … most younger people have all the emphasis on sex, money and entitlement, that they can not see the bigger picture… the importance of values, morals and true love. Very very sad!
Body count matters even MORE when you're committed for life, because somebody with a high body count (man or woman) is unlikely to be satisfied with just one person long term, especially if a large percentage of the count was done in recent years. They crave the feeling of a new body and will have strong urges to cheat.
New body lmao @@megalodon1726
Realistically women dont get asked. I was never asked and I've talked to other women and they have never been asked. I think this is just an internet man thing that doesnt happen irl.
I ask every woman I’ve ever been interested in in the past 5 years. Now if they’re lying or being honest that’s on them, but the higher the count the more likely I’ll hit the 🚪 🚶🏾
@@aaronthomas6926of course you would 🤦🏻
The thing that women who've been around don't know is that most men can tell right off the bat if they've been around. Which, of course, the low-quality man-wh 0 res purposefully seek out these women for an easy lay. On that same token, high-quality men will reject said women. That's where the "all men" idea comes from amongst easy lay feminists, since they're only capable of bringing low-quality men into their lives.
Women do get asked if they are dating respectable men. Maybe the trash you drag in dont care, as my assumption most are looking for booty calls anyways, but any man with dignity and self respect ask. No real man wants someone that's been ran through 20 times. No man should have to settle for someone else's leftovers. Its gross. No woman should either. They should demand excellence. Sex is not some random experience. It has become that, but it's supposed to be sacred and between one man and woman.
I was lied to and I can't explain with words how painful it was to learn the truth. If I could go back and make sure my gf lied I would. If your number is bigger than you originally said then never tell him the truth. It is now your burden.
Experience allows us to understand what we like and don't like, as with any avenue in life
I think you should talk about it because some people don’t sleep around and some do. Personally I would want to talk with the girl I’m interested in with that because that can really make or break a relationship. For me sex isn’t just something to be thrown around. I would want the girl I’m with to have the same mindset as me when it comes to that.
I'm 22 and only at 2 people, lol - how these people end up even in the double digits at all is bizarre to me
I also don't want anyone that has more "experience" than me because the higher the body count the more likely it is they've been with someone prettier than me and I'd just be sooo self-conscious about that idea.
I believe its important to talk about body count in a relationship with your partner in the love relationships. It let's one know more about the partner through the sex history of how many people they have sex with while dating someone.
All you gonna get is lies lies lies 🤣
I'm 39 and I've had 5 sexual partners over my lifetime. I prefer a man with a similar number or lower. Someone who has had 20+ sexual partners is a dealbreaker for me. I want a man who values emotional intimacy during sex and has a good amount of self-mastery and self-control. Having sex with many people for me represents poor impulse control and valuing physical pleasure more than long-term relationships.
It literally takes ZERO self control for a man to be abstinent, most single men already are by default. It takes discipline and "self mastery" to seduce women.
We've swung from being prudes and ashamed of normal sexual desires, to being recklessly promiscuous. There is no way a person who has had intimate relations with 100+ people is 1) careful with their decision-making 2) seeking a committed relationship and 3) disease-free.
As an older person In the days I dated and such Body count wasn't Important to All adults, what was important is If you just plain could stay Faithful in your marriage. Of course there was alot of talk about someone with a high body count got an STD test before getting really serious with someone so you know what your dealing with. Love is love IF you can stay faithful that's what's important. not how many times you have had sex
The blonde guy is very pretty. He actually seems like a reasonably nice guy. The young cutie in the beginning was the only other guy I got a decent impression from. The ones with 50 and 100 were the most sleazy, which, of course, were the ones this chick was the most into. She should chase Forrest and get some nice liberating STDs, so the blonde guy can hopefully meet someone nice, and be a good enough person for that lady. Me and my fiance' are both well under ten, and it's still too much for us. Our relationship is still very special, but I think we've had to work out our past relationship baggage on top of growing as a couple. Best of luck to Miss 40. Hopefully she'll realize her worth well before she hits fifty.
I’ve been happily married for 25 years to the same woman. I have a body count of one, and no regrets.
Just because a women has 0 body counts doesn’t mean that she won’t be sexually “liberating”…she just doesn’t know that because hasn’t done it yet. How beautiful would it be if she and he had 0 body count and both found sex liberation in a more meaningful relationship like marriage. Why is everything backwards now?
Men should be held to the same standards. Most of them will be fathers one day and need to set a good example for their children. If a childs parents are sleeping around there is a much greater chance they will do the same and continue the cycle of pain and infidelity.
Dude said 'I lost mine when I was 19, Junior year of high school'... Dude was held back 3 times? LOL.
If you're 16 when you start your junior year, then a good number of the students will be turning 17 during that junior year. So he could have been held back 2 times.
18:00 You don't even have more experience, because your body count is higher.
You can have an incredibly awesome time, with one singular person.
Because you also know what that person likes and that person knows what you like, because you trust that person.
What you like to hear, how you like to go about it, where you like to be touched.
I just can't imagine a random guy being able to do that.
(And yeah, for guys it matters less, but honestly if I were a woman, I wouldn't get that sentiment, at all)
Hot take on the astrology opinion, I actually enjoy exploring astrology. I would totally ask a girl her sign and be genuinely interested because I am. I don’t believe it necessarily, but it’s interesting and I like it, and it had nothing to do with the girls I’ve dated before. None of them were into astrology. I was the astrology girl in the relationship lol
The fact that she didn’t know who Kevin Federline was has me so shook & feeling like an old ass 🤣🤣 gagged. Love you guys & the show 🫶🏽
Bodycount aside.. when a young guy sais he is a "professional model" he's out for me XD
I think when people say they want someone with “experience” what they really mean is “sexual maturity” as in: you can hold a serious conversation about sex or other intimate topics without the other person snickering or making jokes 🤷🏻♀️
I never understood the concept of experience relating to body count. I used to get grief from friends about having girlfriends for long periods of time while they were out partying and meeting this one and that one,but I was having sex a hell of a lot more than they were being in a relationship than one person every other night.
Good point. My hubby and I were virgins until we got married and that was 32 years ago. We do the deed, so to speak, 2 or 3 times a week, maybe more. I doubt if most single people have that much.
As a woman in my early 30s who happens to be a virgin, men who I have just been flat out with don’t believe me 😂 It’s funny and sad in a way. Like, “Sir, you aren’t special enough for me to lie about my sexual experiences to you.” 🤷🏽♀️
Man in my late 30s. A virgin.
If sex is all you've got, then you don't have anything, because there will come a day when that's no longer an issue, for a lot of different reasons. It takes more than that for a relationship to amount to anything.
When you made that comment about a guy asking you what your sign is....😂😂😂. I legit LOL'd.
My 1st gf had 50 bodies, and the 2nd gf had 5. My current gf is 0 and it's hard to lead in the bedroom when she doesn't do anything, she's too shy or doesn't even want to start. Even the relationship can be hard bc she's insecure and it feels very draining. More relationship experience might be better, but I like being the 1st
Crazy how, for most of the issues brought up today, the answer is: What's right is right and what's wrong is wrong, and you can live in your own world all you want, but reality doesn't bend to anyone's will.
Ah! An enlightened individual. Stay blessed my friend.
22 and mine is 1… my current bf
18:00 I agree 100% with this. These people are looking for partners like companies for a employee. That's not good. I believe in growing and learning together. Not only sexually but also in other areas of life.
Self control is the best Liberty.
I'm nearly 30 and my body count is 0 because I decided to save it till marriage (Y) :D
You're better off moving to a, amish camp
@@girlsdrinkfeck Well there are no Amish people or Amish Camps where I'm from and besides you don't have to move to one to stay faithful to God and his teachings, I just have to wait.
Or if I do have to join a Christian group of some kind then sure maybe then I'll feel at home.
Good for you my friend 👏🏻👏🏻
@@sonoftherepublic7737 Thank you (Y)
32 with zero as well. I actually live near the Amish lol.
Body count mattered to me when I was dating but not to the point where I would stop dating a man. I care more about how he currently views sex, his morals, his values, characteristics, if he is a Follower of Christ. I believe people can have a past then be redeemed by the blood of Christ.
Every single “Christian, conservative” guy I’ve ever dated has dumped me after I’ve told them that I’m waiting for marriage.
It’s a tough world out there 🤦♀️
Damn I have the same problem most women I date or try to get close to reject me when I say I’m a virgin or waiting for marriage. It’s tough indeed but people with your values do exist, hold strong to your faith. Maybe date around outside your area.
If nothing else it matters for STD risk. Tests arent perfect. High "body count" is high risk.