The most dangerous men in Britain have never once been the likes of Fraser, but have always been those who are untouchable...such as those in Westminster or very high up in financial power and that has never changed.
Fraser was a wardodger who ponced off the women who’s husbands went to war. Nice! Also he had little relationship with the Krays until they went to prison. Then he made money off their name with tours etc. Foreman however, was the real deal and had respect from everyone. And he knew the Krays well. This should be called Freddie Foreman:The gangster who protected the Krays.
He was indeed a wardodger. His whole reputation and name was based on this cowardice. "Mad" Frankie Fraser, because he faked being "mad" in order to dodge the draft.
I knew him from dad's pub and knowing the Richardson's. I wouldn't have told him to eff off! All very well slagging off dead old men ! Even if he would have only have you with a weapon so what? Barstools were handy for mouthy twats!
Fraser was "Game as fuck" according to Eddie Richardson. He say's it here in this documentary, Whenever Eddie had problem's, Fraser was there no matter what. So the man must have had something about him.
I met Frankie when I was living in Calahonda Spain in the 90s. My wife had her handbag snatched in a supermarket carpark, a bunch of Morrocon kids, my wife was in tears and he approached us at our car and asked what was wrong, he told us not to call the police and he would deal with it, he asked for our address. Two hours later a tall Spanish fella turned up at out villa with the handbag, the man asked if anything was missing, it was all there. I remember the guy had bloody knuckles. I didnt know it was Frankie Fraser untill a few years later when i saw him on the news.
He was breaking into the homes of poor people during the second world war while other men were out fighting against fascism and for the freedom of their country.
The "rivalry between the Krays and Richardsons was an unvention of the press sure arguments would flare up but they worked together more often than they fought
You say that but he had money and obviously lived fairly well compared to what his other choices would've been because he obviously had fuck all real world prospects.
It's normal clickbait, you wouldn't have clicked on the video if it said Richardson instead of Kray or atleast I wouldn't have. Still makes no proper sense as its just a pure lie.
my late grandad was a met police sergeant and he often knicked Fraser from the 1930's to the 1960's. He said Fraser was a grass who would out any crims to further his own interests and once he started to talk you couldnt stop him .Grandad said you never turned your back on Fraser whatsoever . He also knew Foreman from when he worked for Brendan Quirke lawyer .he said Foreman was an old school criminal who would never grass anyone and adhered to the code of silence. I live the square life but I will say this when you here Foreman speak you cant help but kind of like the man. I also like his son Jamie Foreman the actor as well . another name that was mentioned was that of a man called Alf Lawson who was a colleague of my grandad's . He said Lawson was an eastender who joined the Met and knew how to handle the Krays physically and that east end crims like the Krays didnt phase him one bit. My nan always said Lawson was a vicious man indeed . I love these documentaries of old school London crims
Your right about frazer always claiming he done the things he said he did but he didn't do them the pullers and teeth thing didn't happen the guy who was tortured by the Richardsons said he felt like his teeth had been pulled out with pliers he was been so bad the media went along with it and frazer claimed he pull his teeth out it didn't happen but that's frazer the grass police informer and he didn't protect the krays at all but ur right in what uv said a few people have said the same thing about frazer
Also the police didn't fear anyone why coz crimes in them days had respect and a code not to touch or harm woman children and the police it's just the way it was then
A lot of the so called gangsters that lived by the code in reality only preached that to younger criminals to keep them in line , but in reality never lived by it themselves.... The krays are a media Creation plenty of criminals have even stated that they weren't even the most feared firm in east London let alone London.... Big fish in a small pond is how I have heard the krays described.... Then when you consider what ronnie did to young men then it really begs the question why are they still hero worshipped
How could he be a member of both Krays and the Richardsons? I know he didn’t go to WW2 but he was burglar while the real men went to fight. Fraser was 5 ft 2 and is known as a coward without weapons and his victim needed to be tied up as well.
My wife’s sisters uncles sons dogs 3rd cousin 9 times removed knew Frankie and said he was a gentlemen and knew him so well , Frankie’s youngest sisters pet budgie confirmed this 👍
8:14, you know it's easy for this man to claim the Krays had no brains but, we're able to see for ourselves from the heavier growth eyebrows just who was boss. It's like a rabbit claiming he'd frighten a wolverine, you know, easy to say.
This is WRONG !! Frankie was an an acquaintance of my Dad. HE wasn't anything to do with the KRAYs. Please change your Title. He was with the Richardsons in South London, not the KRAYs in the East End! FF used to drink in dad's pub, years ago when he was out and about. Dad and I had a brekkie with him years ago when we bumped into him shopping. He changed residential homes in Peckham and Bermondsey ... as did my Dad we bumped into him again 😢. We also knew the Richardsons, Charlie more than Eddie, having drinks with him when he was around also and when he wasn't supposed be around 😂 !! Rip Frankie, Charlie, Dad !! As for the glib person ! Ok 😂
FF was a small man who had an extremely high tolerance of pain, and he showed no mercy at times in inflicting a lot of pain and suffering, yes torture, on others. Insanity helped these gangsters "cope " with their iniquities. They could turn on the charm, and show immense generosity, which made them particularly dangerous.
If I didn’t know who Freddie Foreman was, I would guess him to to be an ordinary and very likeable man. Richardson, Donahue and Fraser have an air of menace about them, even in old age. But Foreman comes across as calm and reasonable. An easy man to underestimate.
Freddie Forman always was and still is a gentleman but make no mistake he was a very dangerous man and the Krays were scared of him so showed him respect as everybody else did but that was because he was a decent guy not a bully. His son Jamie as a very well known actor and for some reason plays a fantastic gangster 😀
I met Frankie Fraser at a customers shindig in my home town. I plonked myself down on a sofa next to this old guy he introduced himself as Frank and we spent half an hour chatting and laughing. After making my excuses to leave the party my colleague said to me “ I see you were getting on well with Mad Frankie Fraser” I was stunned, I never knew it was him. I must add that he was a really nice guy and a pleasure to chat to, I suppose everyone has a nice side to them, sometimes!
He also liked a good cup of tea and garibaldi biscuits. He used to call them, "Squashed fly biscuits". I met him at a friend's house back in the 1980's. I didn't know who he was at the time until I saw his picture in a newspaper.
He's such a hero...my pet slug has just died and I'm and I'm gutted....ffs, how can anyone think these bullies and criminals are worth viewing is beyond me.
You know some of the hardest people in history are small-average height…. Even boxers in sport for example… They take more knocking down than tall blokes…
Used to see Frankie in the mid 90s, drinking in the Duke of York, Islington, usually surrounded by a group of wannabe youngsters, hanging on his every word.
A lot of folk were "at it" in the war, like they are now. They had to change milk tokens a few years ago because they were getting exchanged for stuff other than milk? Fags booze etc - it was an awful time in the war. Some places pets were getting nabbed and eaten ? Queue for hours for a stray pigeon sausage my nan said, like sausages with feathers in ??
It is a shame that these people couldn't change the life for the poorest of people in London and put their efforts in speaking up and changing things for the poorest of people for which I believe that was their background as children,, not being born at that time myself it's hard to know what life may have been like but I wondered what these people would think about life today of the homeless and people begging on the streets all over London and every other town and city in England it seems that England is clearly going backwards to the victorian days there's no doubt that the poor are clearly suffering in England.... I did not watch all of the UA-cam film because the criminal way of life is of no interest to me
Frank was declared insane by Broadmoor how he got out is a mystery.Although he was disparaged by many gangsters as being a coward and too small to be a fighter his record shows that with a weapon or with the help of others he was extremely violent and dangerous having shot dead another gangster and almost killed a Kray associate with an axe
@@philthompson8574 TBH mate I did when I was in my 20s and thats why I wised up they were the same just bullies and I wasnt so it didnt work out, and thats true mate
@@SevenSagesRO I know what a tanner was. Used to get one for my pocket money. Either way, there were 4 tanners in 2-bob, so no idea what he`s on about.
Gangsters tend to be gentlemen, at least at first, they use gentle persuasion + good money earned to persuade people to work with them. It’s later on that threats are made.
Gangsters like these guys tend to be Gentlemen to people who don`t mix in their World and are therefore no threat to them in any way, but when you mix in those circles, it`s a different story.
He seems to have done a lot of things in 5 years IE: he went away aged 18, he spent 42 years in prisons, he didn't seem to do any crime from 65 to 91, that's another 26 years, 18 + 26 + 42 = 86
He was souff of the river, he worked alongside my old man, let me rephrase that my old man worked alongside him, last of rhe old school, he was involved heavily in the car park scheme amd getting credit for the building materials, my old man kept quiet did his time and left the scene becouse my mum tild him, it will be interested if Eddie and co remember him, big Brian Rose, looked like charles bronson the actor hard face and the best tash in south london, he 90 now but he remember the times well some of them, you would remember him when you had a christmas due and my old man drunk charle under the table amd it was late and he went over the road to the cafe had a breakfast, he tells me a couplenof you came over but he had finished and wanted to drink more, Eddie i dont suppose you remember that as Charlie gone RIP, frankie gone, cornell gone, my dad not high up in firm but he on your books, he got dementia now bit he can still kick my ass when i go to see him, he still has dagger in the sheaf that charlie gave him after one of the dustups..........you will remember him as you had him driving David bowie to all the clubs souff of river when he first started and they stayed friends up until he died, he always used to come and see my mum.and dad with Iman in the uk, amd my Dad was the one who bought Bob Hoskins RIP to one of your does, now you remeber ha ha that was Brian Rose my dad...
Have any of you guys ever heard of "The Cobblestone Fighter", (aka Georgie SEWELL) Actor George SEWELL'S Father. Now there was a real "hard man". Never carried a weapon but was as tough as they come. Another "hard man" from an earlier time, was Jack (SPOT) COMER.
Dave Courtney "did the Maths" on Frankie Fraser, which I must admit, was quite compelling. Like he said, "you dont do a lot from nought to 15 years, and you dont do a lot between 60 and 65 and that only leaves 50 years, 44 of which he's spent in prison. That only leaves six years in which do do all the stuff he's said. Or is it that he's making stuff up to write a book?" Whatever we may think about Mr Courtney you cant really argue with the statistics? Courtney also stated, "has Frankie Fraser really killed 40 people (as he claims) YES, with boredom! As with all history, you have to study the evidence and work out your own interpretation, but with some with these celebrity gangsters there is of course, a fair measure of relative, self-proclamed criminality for imagery and an equal measure of braggadocio
Frankie never protected the twins, they didn’t need protection. Frankie could only fight a man who was tied up and defenceless, I believe the twins would have slaughtered the Richardson brothers
Mcvities body was left outside st Mary's Church near Rotherhithe tunnel in the same Borough (Southwark)as Fred's pub but about two miles away hardly "round the corner"from it nevertheless it could still have caused problems for Fred and every known villain in South London
The comment that Reggie was gay makes sense. The fact that he left his beautiful wife Frances alone during their honeymoon & many times after, can’t be ignored,
I'm no expert but I thought freddie foreman and the lambriemo brothers were the henchmen in the krays firm. Thought mad frankie frazier was in the Richardson crew. I've read the krays book and seen the krays ( kemp brothers ) fab horrific movie. Either way frankie was well hard , concrete balls .
Love or loathe them, criminals like this are part of history, just like Jesse james, Bonnie & clyde, Billy the kid, the train robbers ETC. Odd to think that infamous people like the Krays & the Richardson's will still be talked about as much as the famous people will & long after this generation has gone too. It's a fact, that just like infamous people, some famous people, fade from people's memories & some never will.
Fraser and Eddie were game as fuck, and could bash when need be. Eddie was a unit in his younger years, as you can see where he is standing by the car on this video. And Fraser, well he was one nasty piece of work, i bet they both instilled major fear into many other firms in their day.
Plenty story's floating about how Frankie was shit scared of Arthur Thompson and even Reggie said that Arthur was one of the only men he was frightened of..all story's and never sure how true they are but Arthur was a man to be feared for sure.
I know someone who was in prison with Fraser in the 1990s. By all accounts Fraser used to go and get the papers in his slippers in the morning. Where the fuck he got the papers from I don’t know 😂
I knew him and Charlie kray when I worked in clubs in Central London. Used to look after me as I was one of only a few female djs working in the 80's and 90s. Frankie was like my 2nd dad!
Frankie Fraser says that if he had found guilty of the murder of Dickie Hart in 1966 then he would have been hung. That’s not true as capital punishment had been suspended in 1965 and made permanent in 1969.
Pure and simple a thieving violent criminal thug who while most men of his generation were fighting against evil for freedom in Europe was taking advantage to try and enrich himself. Putting an individual like this on a pedestal is sickening and all too reflective of our societies attitude towards crime!
Horrible gang stuff going on in the 90s with Arifs, Brindles, shootings etc. The South East Regional Crime squad meant to control crime were a bunch of crims themselves & were called "The Groovy Gang" says it all really. Everyone just going about their business with HELP from The Groovy Gang! No wonder it got disbanded! If they nicked drugs off someone they'd get sold to someone else 😁 All these known activities observed by Scotland Yard ! Every time someone "turned up" they were KNOWN to Scotland Yard! 😁 A very tangled web! The cleverest and worst crims are the ones you don't EVER hear about so much? Doing their stuff not making waves, not in the news & not getting caught the mystery ones and whodunnits?
The most dangerous men in Britain have never once been the likes of Fraser, but have always been those who are untouchable...such as those in Westminster or very high up in financial power and that has never changed.
I wouldn't tell FF where to go though !! Would you ??
We still have plenty of gangsters in Westminster 99 per cent of them and 100 per cent in the HOLords, Dennis
@@deniseblades41 I agree but they are mostly cowards ✌️
THEY SHOULD ALL HAVE HAD AN 8 O CLOCK APPOINTMENT WITH ALBERT PIERREPONT AND GOOD RIDDANCE SCUM THE LOT
Also HE WASN'T KRAYS in East end, he was Richardsons in South London. Sit in our family pub! Last chatted to in Morrisons cafe !
Thing I can't understand about frasers reputation is how does torturing someone who is tied up make u a hard man ?
It just does m8……alright 😂
@@JRW1886 no it doesnt ,just makes u a psychopath/scumbag , theres a big difference
@@alancampbell3364 I’m taking the piss 🤣
@@JRW1886 good one
@@alancampbell3364 totally missed on u I feel 🤦♂️
Fraser was a wardodger who ponced off the women who’s husbands went to war. Nice!
Also he had little relationship with the Krays until they went to prison. Then he made money off their name with tours etc.
Foreman however, was the real deal and had respect from everyone. And he knew the Krays well.
This should be called Freddie Foreman:The gangster who protected the Krays.
Or Scotland Yards Freddie, who protected two sick boy fiddlers
BANG ON, Ronnie used to call Frankie that nasty little man and he worked for the Richardsons not the Krays
KRAYS WERE THE CLOSE FRIENDS WITH THAT NAUGHTY GIRL CLIFFI RICHARD .AND LORD BOOTHBY
what a load of crap
He was indeed a wardodger. His whole reputation and name was based on this cowardice. "Mad" Frankie Fraser, because he faked being "mad" in order to dodge the draft.
Done more bread and water than any man alive... Asif it's summat to be proud of 😂
Survival is always a good thing especially when your in jail for doing nothing!
Considering how small of a bloke he is he's done well not to be completely broken or raped on a daily basis in prison i'll give him that.
Well done frankie spending nearly all you life in a prison surrounded by men bet you were getting really excited
Fraser wasn't a stand up fighter in fact without a weapon he was a coward.
I imagine a lot of them are like the guy who killed the kid in Liverpool
No he was quite brave if you were tied to a chair or had your back to him
I knew him from dad's pub and knowing the Richardson's. I wouldn't have told him to eff off! All very well slagging off dead old men ! Even if he would have only have you with a weapon so what? Barstools were handy for mouthy twats!
All of society is based on cowardice.
Fraser was "Game as fuck" according to Eddie Richardson. He say's it here in this documentary, Whenever Eddie had problem's, Fraser was there no matter what. So the man must have had something about him.
I met Frankie when I was living in Calahonda Spain in the 90s. My wife had her handbag snatched in a supermarket carpark, a bunch of Morrocon kids, my wife was in tears and he approached us at our car and asked what was wrong, he told us not to call the police and he would deal with it, he asked for our address. Two hours later a tall Spanish fella turned up at out villa with the handbag, the man asked if anything was missing, it was all there. I remember the guy had bloody knuckles. I didnt know it was Frankie Fraser untill a few years later when i saw him on the news.
Bollocks
Bollocks
Ya he probably had someone steal it in the first place,that’s how these mad bastards work to gain respect..
Nice bit of history there, thanks for sharing.
@yaco2165 why would they care about the respect of random people not involved lol
Anyone who knows anything about British gangster history knows Frank was part of the Richardson crew who were rivals to the kray firm.
And anyone who knows British crime history knows franks a liar and never was any good without a weapon. Never had a fight in his life
Everyone were friends with Frazier…..even those you weren’t yet born…..he was a mindless thug..end of story
He was breaking into the homes of poor people during the second world war while other men were out fighting against fascism and for the freedom of their country.
His son told me he thought of the krays as a pair of nancy/mummys boys so yeah frank was never a part of the krays
The "rivalry between the Krays and Richardsons was an unvention of the press sure arguments would flare up but they worked together more often than they fought
Footage like this deserves Government funding for its valuable contribution to the preservation of an unalienable part of British History.
Unfortunately is factually wrong.
great sarcasm.
What a sad and wasted life.
*Don't lose too much sleep about it.*
You say that but he had money and obviously lived fairly well compared to what his other choices would've been because he obviously had fuck all real world prospects.
Frankie was NOT an enforcer for the Krays, he was with The Richardsons!!
Hahahaha bit weird he put that title
That's what I thought
Load of crap. He hated the Krays.
It's normal clickbait, you wouldn't have clicked on the video if it said Richardson instead of Kray or atleast I wouldn't have. Still makes no proper sense as its just a pure lie.
@@darthrevan6258 Actually, I would. I’m from South East London, the Krays were parasites….the Richardsons at least, had work, even if it was a front.
my late grandad was a met police sergeant and he often knicked Fraser from the 1930's to the 1960's. He said Fraser was a grass who would out any crims to further his own interests and once he started to talk you couldnt stop him .Grandad said you never turned your back on Fraser whatsoever . He also knew Foreman from when he worked for Brendan Quirke lawyer .he said Foreman was an old school criminal who would never grass anyone and adhered to the code of silence. I live the square life but I will say this when you here Foreman speak you cant help but kind of like the man. I also like his son Jamie Foreman the actor as well . another name that was mentioned was that of a man called Alf Lawson who was a colleague of my grandad's . He said Lawson was an eastender who joined the Met and knew how to handle the Krays physically and that east end crims like the Krays didnt phase him one bit. My nan always said Lawson was a vicious man indeed . I love these documentaries of old school London crims
Your right about frazer always claiming he done the things he said he did but he didn't do them the pullers and teeth thing didn't happen the guy who was tortured by the Richardsons said he felt like his teeth had been pulled out with pliers he was been so bad the media went along with it and frazer claimed he pull his teeth out it didn't happen but that's frazer the grass police informer and he didn't protect the krays at all but ur right in what uv said a few people have said the same thing about frazer
Also the police didn't fear anyone why coz crimes in them days had respect and a code not to touch or harm woman children and the police it's just the way it was then
A lot of the so called gangsters that lived by the code in reality only preached that to younger criminals to keep them in line , but in reality never lived by it themselves.... The krays are a media Creation plenty of criminals have even stated that they weren't even the most feared firm in east London let alone London.... Big fish in a small pond is how I have heard the krays described.... Then when you consider what ronnie did to young men then it really begs the question why are they still hero worshipped
We knew them all from S London.
Mum also said you could leave your doors open, but also said no one had anything worth nicking. !!
How could he be a member of both Krays and the Richardsons? I know he didn’t go to WW2 but he was burglar while the real men went to fight. Fraser was 5 ft 2 and is known as a coward without weapons and his victim needed to be tied up as well.
You're totally spot on😊
Yup , a complete maggot
Even billy hill thought Frankie was a melt
Fraser spoke about robbing dead people in bombed out houses during the war in a previous interview
@@arturius7534You go through the rubble and pull the good stuff out, I imagine..
how admirable sounds like a real lovely fella
Ask your grand parents about war time crime@@arturius7534
@@alfsmith4936😂😂😂
My wife’s sisters uncles sons dogs 3rd cousin 9 times removed knew Frankie and said he was a gentlemen and knew him so well , Frankie’s youngest sisters pet budgie confirmed this 👍
8:14, you know it's easy for this man to claim the Krays had no brains but, we're able to see for ourselves from the heavier growth eyebrows just who was boss. It's like a rabbit claiming he'd frighten a wolverine, you know, easy to say.
😂
Wow !!
I’d have Frank for for breakfast.
@@chrisekstrom4614 what twice? Or was it double golf?
Fraser and his sons spent 70 years behind bars?..One big happy Family!
3 idiots
Life's bottom-feeders, the lot of them.
Only Ronnie, get it ?😂
This is WRONG !! Frankie was an an acquaintance of my Dad. HE wasn't anything to do with the KRAYs. Please change your Title. He was with the Richardsons in South London, not the KRAYs in the East End! FF used to drink in dad's pub, years ago when he was out and about. Dad and I had a brekkie with him years ago when we bumped into him shopping. He changed residential homes in Peckham and Bermondsey ... as did my Dad we bumped into him again 😢. We also knew the Richardsons, Charlie more than Eddie, having drinks with him when he was around also and when he wasn't supposed be around 😂 !! Rip Frankie, Charlie, Dad !!
As for the glib person ! Ok 😂
FF was a small man who had an extremely high tolerance of pain, and he showed no mercy at times in inflicting a lot of pain and suffering, yes torture, on others. Insanity helped these gangsters "cope " with their iniquities. They could turn on the charm, and show immense generosity, which made them particularly dangerous.
@footlova
_They sound extremely psychopathic._
Thugs that idiots idolise
spot on mate
Young Frank Jr was more dangerous than his dad
FF... Freddy Foreman or Frankie Fraser?
You mean the Richardson not the krays
Foreman was above the lot
Not a patch on grant Mitchell
Frank was bitter, because deep down he resented the fact that he failed his " Dentistry exam".
Went on one of his tours. Culminating in a beer in Blind Beggar. What struck me was how tiny the man was!
Howling at the title.
“ WHO PROTECTED THE KRAYS “
yeah what bullshit they didn't need protection
If I didn’t know who Freddie Foreman was, I would guess him to to be an ordinary and very likeable man. Richardson, Donahue and Fraser have an air of menace about them, even in old age. But Foreman comes across as calm and reasonable. An easy man to underestimate.
Freddie Forman always was and still is a gentleman but make no mistake he was a very dangerous man and the Krays were scared of him so showed him respect as everybody else did but that was because he was a decent guy not a bully. His son Jamie as a very well known actor and for some reason plays a fantastic gangster 😀
Yeah, really tough when the other persons outnumbered 5 to one
I met Frankie Fraser at a customers shindig in my home town. I plonked myself down on a sofa next to this old guy he introduced himself as Frank and we spent half an hour chatting and laughing. After making my excuses to leave the party my colleague said to me “ I see you were getting on well with Mad Frankie Fraser” I was stunned, I never knew it was him. I must add that he was a really nice guy and a pleasure to chat to, I suppose everyone has a nice side to them, sometimes!
He also liked a good cup of tea and garibaldi biscuits. He used to call them, "Squashed fly biscuits". I met him at a friend's house back in the 1980's. I didn't know who he was at the time until I saw his picture in a newspaper.
My cousins partner is his son…
Met frank couple of times myself.
I was not star struck by him personally and one time was at his book launch.
He's such a hero...my pet slug has just died and I'm and I'm gutted....ffs, how can anyone think these bullies and criminals are worth viewing is beyond me.
Couldn't agree more, I wonder if an honest days work ever occurred to these thugs and bullies
@@brianchandler1365why are both of you clowns 🤡 watching ???
@@brianchandler1365 Agreed
Same as people like cowboys, people that do what they want
You are all here though !! 😂
Mad Frankie was 5ft2", no wonder he was mad 😂.
You know some of the hardest people in history are small-average height….
Even boxers in sport for example…
They take more knocking down than tall blokes…
Used to see Frankie in the mid 90s, drinking in the Duke of York, Islington, usually surrounded by a group of wannabe youngsters, hanging on his every word.
That is cringeworthy..some of them thought themselves Heros
@@loonylinda Agree. Nothing good or glamorous about that bunch of parasites.
He came back south old folks homes in Peckham and Bermondsey !! Rip Frankie !
Here also liked a drink in the British lion in Central Street Islington where Marian Whisby (Tommy's daughter used to sing
Protected the Krays from whom? The Richardsons?
How many times you gonna post the same documentary with a different name on it 🤔
If its really u james FUKIN do one
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Openly outed as a total prick by other peers of his time .
A Bully who described the end of ww2 as devastating
A lot of folk were "at it" in the war, like they are now. They had to change milk tokens a few years ago because they were getting exchanged for stuff other than milk? Fags booze etc - it was an awful time in the war. Some places pets were getting nabbed and eaten ? Queue for hours for a stray pigeon sausage my nan said, like sausages with feathers in ??
He likes to be called slightly annoyed Frankie Fraser now.
Frankie was nothing to do with the kray firm he was an associate of the Richardsons firm
Frank Fraser worked with the Richardson gang.
Sounds like we need a doco on Ronnie & Reggie’s father? Mum sounds great by all accounts & im not blaming him but would love to know his story?
It is a shame that these people couldn't change the life for the poorest of people in London and put their efforts in speaking up and changing things for the poorest of people for which I believe that was their background as children,, not being born at that time myself it's hard to know what life may have been like but I wondered what these people would think about life today of the homeless and people begging on the streets all over London and every other town and city in England it seems that England is clearly going backwards to the victorian days there's no doubt that the poor are clearly suffering in England.... I did not watch all of the UA-cam film because the criminal way of life is of no interest to me
These criminal scum didn't give a shit about the poorest people nor anyone else.
The worst thing foreman did was disclose he was a "magician", to the krays. Vanishing people, I mran.
I knew him in his later years,at that time we called him slightly annoyed Frankie Fraser.Billy the bomb from Custom House was worse.
Foreman is an old school gentleman and had all the right reasons to be a Gangster, he insured better for the next generation.
Great documentary bernard 👏
A coward who only acted tough when he was with a mob. 5 foot nothing.
Not true actually ! It kicked off in dad's pub while he was sat on ",his perch" 😂and he and a barstool did very well ... Like a terrier !!
@@claire6795 Must of been a small Barstool?
Freddie foreman comes across as such a genuine nice fella 😂
Frank was declared insane by Broadmoor how he got out is a mystery.Although he was disparaged by many gangsters as being a coward and too small to be a fighter his record shows that with a weapon or with the help of others he was extremely violent and dangerous having shot dead another gangster and almost killed a Kray associate with an axe
That gutless coward was robbing whilst real men were fighting in the war to defend this country... Rot in he'll.
anybody can be extremely violent if they have a weapon or 10 guys stood there to back them up.
@@Madmick124 yes so you make sure you don't get involved with them
@@philthompson8574 TBH mate I did when I was in my 20s and thats why I wised up they were the same just bullies and I wasnt so it didnt work out, and thats true mate
He was hard when you were tied to a chair.
Me and Ron, Ron Pickering run the gaff now. No iron hoofs
Back in the day , you tell frankie he weren't hard he'd cut your jacobs off and av em for tea lol
Bollocks!
@@colinmcnab6145 yes for tea
He couldn’t fight a cold with his fists,always needed a tool.
25:20 Jimmy Tippetts sounds like onetime Dr Feelgood's manic guitarist Wilko Johnson!
Donohue "a tenner weren`t worth 2 bob back then". A weeks wages to an honest man FFS.
Tanner not tenner. Sixpence in pre-decimal currency.
@@SevenSagesRO I know what a tanner was. Used to get one for my pocket money. Either way, there were 4 tanners in 2-bob, so no idea what he`s on about.
I went on one of his tours around London. He was an utter gentleman to me
Gangsters tend to be gentlemen, at least at first, they use gentle persuasion + good money earned to persuade people to work with them. It’s later on that threats are made.
Gangsters like these guys tend to be Gentlemen to people who don`t mix in their World and are therefore no threat to them in any way, but when you mix in those circles, it`s a different story.
He seems to have done a lot of things in 5 years IE: he went away aged 18, he spent 42 years in prisons, he didn't seem to do any crime from 65 to 91, that's another 26 years, 18 + 26 + 42 = 86
🤣🤣🤣 A self confessed house breaker during the second world war while other men were out fighting for their country.
Don't let facts get in the way!
Great to see the old boys before they all went off; when you read about them in books it's seems unreal, hearing their stories brings it to life.
I worked with a fella who was in prison with fraser...he said he was a complete dick!
He was souff of the river, he worked alongside my old man, let me rephrase that my old man worked alongside him, last of rhe old school, he was involved heavily in the car park scheme amd getting credit for the building materials, my old man kept quiet did his time and left the scene becouse my mum tild him, it will be interested if Eddie and co remember him, big Brian Rose, looked like charles bronson the actor hard face and the best tash in south london, he 90 now but he remember the times well some of them, you would remember him when you had a christmas due and my old man drunk charle under the table amd it was late and he went over the road to the cafe had a breakfast, he tells me a couplenof you came over but he had finished and wanted to drink more, Eddie i dont suppose you remember that as Charlie gone RIP, frankie gone, cornell gone, my dad not high up in firm but he on your books, he got dementia now bit he can still kick my ass when i go to see him, he still has dagger in the sheaf that charlie gave him after one of the dustups..........you will remember him as you had him driving David bowie to all the clubs souff of river when he first started and they stayed friends up until he died, he always used to come and see my mum.and dad with Iman in the uk, amd my Dad was the one who bought Bob Hoskins RIP to one of your does, now you remeber ha ha that was Brian Rose my dad...
Fred is the probably the scariest man on the planet. There's no lying in that man
Have any of you guys ever heard of "The Cobblestone Fighter", (aka Georgie SEWELL) Actor George SEWELL'S Father. Now there was a real "hard man". Never carried a weapon but was as tough as they come. Another "hard man" from an earlier time, was Jack (SPOT) COMER.
These guys are not heroes. You hear they only hurt other gangsters. Not true. What about the legitimate business men they threatened .
Dave Courtney "did the Maths" on Frankie Fraser, which I must admit, was quite compelling. Like he said, "you dont do a lot from nought to 15 years, and you dont do a lot between 60 and 65 and that only leaves 50 years, 44 of which he's spent in prison. That only leaves six years in which do do all the stuff he's said. Or is it that he's making stuff up to write a book?" Whatever we may think about Mr Courtney you cant really argue with the statistics? Courtney also stated, "has Frankie Fraser really killed 40 people (as he claims) YES, with boredom! As with all history, you have to study the evidence and work out your own interpretation, but with some with these celebrity gangsters there is of course, a fair measure of relative, self-proclamed criminality for imagery and an equal measure of braggadocio
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Frankie never protected the twins, they didn’t need protection. Frankie could only fight a man who was tied up and defenceless, I believe the twins would have slaughtered the Richardson brothers
Was watching Older british crime show last night and they were talking about Krays.
Mcvities body was left outside st Mary's Church near Rotherhithe tunnel in the same Borough (Southwark)as Fred's pub but about two miles away hardly "round the corner"from it nevertheless it could still have caused problems for Fred and every known villain in South London
frankie worked for the richardsons,ffs,get it right
The comment that Reggie was gay makes sense. The fact that he left his beautiful wife Frances alone during their honeymoon & many times after, can’t be ignored,
Hands up if you've ever got chopped up a bit...... especially on the legs!!! FFS shite ten minutes of my life I won't get back 😂
Bernard O'Baloney narrating this, in other words it's all BS.
Bernard O Mahoneyy Swaa an enforcer for the Krays when he was 8 years old then went on to rule Essex. Complete fanny merchant
Thicker than a whale omelette
They reckon he got knocked out more times than Bruno and Audley Harrison put together??
He was not a protector of the Krays, he was in the rival Richardson gang.
This .End of story
Frankie was a nasty little fellow , but he's a lier
12:12 A very telling reaction to a perfectly innocuous sound.
I'm no expert but I thought freddie foreman and the lambriemo brothers were the henchmen in the krays firm. Thought mad frankie frazier was in the Richardson crew. I've read the krays book and seen the krays ( kemp brothers ) fab horrific movie. Either way frankie was well hard , concrete balls .
He was as mad as a lorry!
They were the days. Hard but beautiful. That was how it was. It was normal to us.I miss all those charaters. BEAUTIFUL. Much love to 'em.
Frankie was also no street fighter that is for sure.
Having survived his attack mcvitie later went on and created a biscuit company
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I wish it was like this now...i really do
Low Miff - Narked/Narky - Lightly Bonkers - Massive Huff - Mad As A Lorry.
Love or loathe them, criminals like this are part of history, just like Jesse james, Bonnie & clyde, Billy the kid, the train robbers ETC.
Odd to think that infamous people like the Krays & the Richardson's will still be talked about as much as the famous people will & long after this generation has gone too.
It's a fact, that just like infamous people, some famous people, fade from people's memories & some never will.
all wankers
20:52 This guy sounds like Harry Enfield or Paul Whitehouse when they did The Old Gits in Harry Enfield and chums.
The krays would have been fucked if little Frankie hadn’t protected them
Frank is a lion with the heart of a pigeon and the body of a pigeon.
Fraser and Eddie were game as fuck, and could bash when need be. Eddie was a unit in his younger years, as you can see where he is standing by the car on this video.
And Fraser, well he was one nasty piece of work, i bet they both instilled major fear into many other firms in their day.
What a total waste of all those life's So sad
Plenty story's floating about how Frankie was shit scared of Arthur Thompson and even Reggie said that Arthur was one of the only men he was frightened of..all story's and never sure how true they are but Arthur was a man to be feared for sure.
💯% Even Lenny Mclean said in his Book, how influencial he was in Scotland.
Aye Paul ferris was shit scared of him lol
A legend in his own head! A vile individual!
He was a weasel
My wife's Uncle Jim, a Senior Officer in Leicester Prison had him in control, Fraser confirmed this in his book.
Your medals in the post
Who in control of what?
Jim got cut
I heard on a podcast he’s broke and living in a one bedroom council flat now.
No women kids or Civilians, real Gangsters, I came from the same background in Glasgow in the Sixties and seventies, just saying 😎 🇬🇧
That's right! You're only saying...
dream on
I know someone who was in prison with Fraser in the 1990s. By all accounts Fraser used to go and get the papers in his slippers in the morning. Where the fuck he got the papers from I don’t know 😂
These geezer s have got a story or two to tell hard as and there honour is everything
I knew him and Charlie kray when I worked in clubs in Central London. Used to look after me as I was one of only a few female djs working in the 80's and 90s. Frankie was like my 2nd dad!
Frankie Fraser says that if he had found guilty of the murder of Dickie Hart in 1966 then he would have been hung. That’s not true as capital punishment had been suspended in 1965 and made permanent in 1969.
Pure and simple a thieving violent criminal thug who while most men of his generation were fighting against evil for freedom in Europe was taking advantage to try and enrich himself. Putting an individual like this on a pedestal is sickening and all too reflective of our societies attitude towards crime!
I think you just made that up!
No one ever talks about the Arrifs.They we’re and are the most feared in London.
Know them too ! Arifs one f ?
Horrible gang stuff going on in the 90s with Arifs, Brindles, shootings etc. The South East Regional Crime squad meant to control crime were a bunch of crims themselves & were called "The Groovy Gang" says it all really. Everyone just going about their business with HELP from The Groovy Gang! No wonder it got disbanded! If they nicked drugs off someone they'd get sold to someone else 😁 All these known activities observed by Scotland Yard ! Every time someone "turned up" they were KNOWN to Scotland Yard! 😁 A very tangled web!
The cleverest and worst crims are the ones you don't EVER hear about so much? Doing their stuff not making waves, not in the news & not getting caught the mystery ones and whodunnits?
@@claire6795the.Arrifs now living in the northern part of CYPRUS
He hated the Krays. I think he hated most people.