@@adamibrahim7706 Bugger, you found me out! I have to confess: I am happily married, own property here and abroad, have money, a good income, my health and absolute liberty from prosecution. Oh, how I wish I too were an incarcerated violent homosexual criminal, a paranoid schizophrenic, and getting buggered in the toilets of a prison for the criminally insane. I shall try to stop feeling this way.
My father came from East India Dock Road. I was bought up decently, I feared noone, but worked hard to make my way. I would never condone swearing in front of women, but then I would not threaten, bully or take advantage of people that are not in a position to defend themselves for my own families profit. God bless Nipper Read. All fairy tales for weak people who hang onto others, rather than stand their own ground, or make their own way out of personal principle for their own honest families.
ww2 children like many others,always makes me laugh that they became famous if you like when there was so so many other children that went through ww2 and did the same, thankfully these days we pay our tax by the millions for countrys like gaza etc,stuff our own, what was it called, oh yes british stiff upper lip, reaped what was sowed, but as i said before, thank goodness there is no more mindless killing etc these days :)
Interesting the number of villains who spoke badly of them after they died. Saying they were poofs ,mugs,grasses etc would they've done this when they were living?
Bully boys who were locked in a cell from the age of 35 !!! Absolute pathetic - and these are heroes ? I’d rather look up to the local farmer . Pathetic bullying individuals Be lucky ❤
@@robmiller2773 imagine tho -- locked in a cell at 35 !!! FOREVER There is nothing glamorous about their lives . Their lives were absolute SHYTE . Be good people and love your family ❤️ Not one of them had the joy of raising a child … WOW 🤯
No one’s saying they were heroes but at least they belonged to us.nipper lies and talks shit.he spoke of jack like he was mother Teresa for Christ’s sake. Is it better now then?now that the police locked up the locals ,why?so they could move the third world in
This is a true story the Krays sent their collectors going from shop to shop and one shop keeper who was Ukrainian pretending to not understand Cockney language. They were four of them two of them started to throw things around in the shop breaking objects of value, the Ukrainian rushed to a bin holding broom handles broke it half and started using them using oriental fighting skills knocked out two of them out cold and the other two ran away. The shop keeper phoned for the Police they arrived and the Ukrainian showed his MI6 card to the Police, they said no problems took the two into a Paddy wagon to cut the story this was a Special trained by the SAS and ex SOE of the dark arts and the Krays never went to that shop ever again .
There were mixed feelings, apparently, when the Krays eventually ended up in prison for murder. According to Leslie Burman, there were people who'd done a lot worse than them. That most likely is the case but hey - that's the price of fame... ..and no, I don't mean Alan and Georgie.
@@justinboon3811 Ruled what exactly???Control of nothing until another mad gangster would kill them,it goes round and around and nobody ever wins at all so it is all a pointless waste of time,kill kill kill and kill what a life look at the time we are in now in 2023,the ferrel teenager's who ride on bikes and black balaclava during the day and stick knives in you if you just look at them,??!!
The reality is very different then the myth. They had close working relationship with corrupt elements in the Police who protected them. They preyed on small business and bookmakers, if they never paid up they got windows broken or worse. Knowing they were protected. They also procured young males for members of the house of lords, who made sure they never got their collar felt, but they got arrogant to the point they had to be brought down. People who really knew them including their enforcers didn't have a good word to say about them.thats the reality. Freddie Foreman stated they were so dangerously unstable to be around, especially Ronnie, they would have been taken out.
They did on occasion. In fact some people took advatage of them later on would write letters to them saying they needed an operation or their kid needed one could they pay for it and they would send them money. Sometimes not bothering to check whether it was true or not.
A prisoner took chips off Reggie's plate, he was humiliated for a long time by prison officers and other prisoners, until Reggie exploded and done him in his cell. If you are thinking of doing crime and becoming a criminal, always think about who you will meet in prison, there's always someone bigger than you. Just saying. 🙌🙌🙌
My grandfather was Leslie burman the first man on the documentary to speak. I hope your nan is still well. They probably knew each other. Sadly he passed 31-08-1997. Same day as princess died Diana coincidentally
They respected and protected elderly ladies - these days we have a generation of low-lifes who will pull a knife on your Gran to get her handbag, just for their next 'fix'. Sadly, it's happening increasingly.😢
He his one of my favorite actors and did a good job playing both krays. But the best movie for me was the first krays film made in the 80,s i think with the to real life brothers 👍
one reason why they were not released early was because the authorities knew their ‘businesses’ continued while they were in prison. I heard it evolved from the protection money racketeering. inmates wanted to be part of their ‘gang’. Also criminals who wanted to do business in london would pay good money for a prison meeting and twins would hook them up and get a commission from deals. they also had ‘foot soldiers’ outside affiliated to them also they were always in the press, with books and films out, celebrity figures and people kept claiming to be connected with them when they were not. if they had kept a low profile they would have been let out earlier
At 21:05 the man couldn’t be more wrong. Ron didnt shoot George just for ‘show’, he shot him because he kept mocking Ron for his sexuality. Obvious, so it’s weird this man has no clue.
Pair of fiko’s “ I want to get married “ “ l want to go abroad Then get left alone “ For all the assholes that were complicate there all in the best place now
All the chite I see about these 2 ...they would touch the hard ones like Roy Shaw Albert and bobby reading and Lennie Maclean even though he was a youngster then and the Greeks in west London
Be interesting to see you say that to their faces back in the day, do you think you'd have the balls to do that ?? All so easy to say 55 plus years later !!
That’s the thing about the UK, drinking and gambling is legal as long as it’s run by a small group of mainly upper class people. The longer I live in New Zealand the more I wonder why we put up with the class system
And as long as you have money, lots! In the US your income determines your place in the class pecking order. Their class system is just as rigid as in the UK.@@PaulCarew-j9j
Everyone on here think they know and can judge people they have never met in there lives over people who clearly knew them better and actually spent time with them. 😂
@@rogerhoward4634 After they tried to order him to take the rap for one of their murders you mean? Would you have took the life sentence for them like a good little boy? I know i wouldn't.
@@chillin101 I'm reading her autobiography, and yes, it did seem so. To be fair, she does admit it. I've lost count of the numbers and I'm only at the start of her career!.
These gangsters kept order amongst all the criminals. Sex offenders. Home robbers etc was not tolerated like today! They did a lot of the police work for them! Now so called men tolerate sex offenders and home robbers. Expecting our woke police to deal with it which they have no interest in doing.
Heard a similar story about them being met by a local gangster at lime street station when they came to liverpool and met at piccadilly when they came to manchester.
They were never the "undisputed "rulers of London gangland. Out side of Bethnal green They were just another two hard nuts like most of the villains at the time
If they didnt get jailed they would have eventually sold drugs. Becouse if another team did and knew all about the drugs market from prices to distributers and retailers and the right sources they would earn millions and build bigger teams to take over. A couldnt see the krays allowing that. Plus guys would take them out as the money involved is alot. More in a year than they had made all there days. If done right. But its a dog eat dog game as big and easy money makes sure of that.
I have full this they were in prison to long Reggie should have been released at least 10 years before he passed away long life the KRAYS they were good .
Nipper reed you were wrong what you did to the kray twins they were good boys they went into my dads night club in Watford called the clock house they behaved impeccable well done boys
Bloody hell that guys a grass for all seasons there's nothing he's not happy to gossip about , & on camera at that, no wonder he thought he was gunna get 1 in the bk of the head.. snitch
They became legends through clever media brainwashing and everyone loves a good film..i grew up in there world they were maniplutive through some muscle they had around them...i was lucky i was over the river our south london was more ruthless the twins never ventured into our bandit country Bermondsey it was a no go area for outsiders..👍
I ran with the poplar mob in the 60,s and we regularly went over south London and wreaked havoc and never had any problems serving up the Bermondsey bum boys
Ronnie and Reggie would be celebrating their 90th birthdays today, born October 24, 1933.
Pair of crooks who ended up throwing their lives away, and rotted in jail. The adulation they get is beyond me.
thank goodness no violence these days
@@HailieGardner-z9o 😂😂😂
Coz theyre legends u jealous hater
@@adamibrahim7706 Bugger, you found me out! I have to confess: I am happily married, own property here and abroad, have money, a good income, my health and absolute liberty from prosecution. Oh, how I wish I too were an incarcerated violent homosexual criminal, a paranoid schizophrenic, and getting buggered in the toilets of a prison for the criminally insane. I shall try to stop feeling this way.
Correct.
If I was sitting in a pub and someone came in and shot the person next to me. I wouldn't see anything
So much for a relaxing night at the pub.
@@arricammarques1955of course. As he said, he didn’t see anything 😂
Because you'd avenge?🎉
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
There was no one sat next to Cornell lol
Ronnie pickering would have sorted these two out. 😂
Best comment i have seen on hear lmao😂😂😂
Ronnie Pickering?come on man
Ronnie who hahahaha
Nobody respected them, people were afraid of them, there’s a difference
A shame the death sentence was abolished before the excuses for real men where convicted.
There sure is. In my dictionary, both words have entirely different meanings. The word 'respect' keeps getting used out of context by these people.
Gangster expert
Bullshit! The Krays were definitely respected when they were alive and in death
@Steve24527 no they weren't you fool! They were nonces
My father came from East India Dock Road. I was bought up decently, I feared noone, but worked hard to make my way.
I would never condone swearing in front of women, but then I would not threaten, bully or take advantage of people that are not in a position to defend themselves for my own families profit.
God bless Nipper Read.
All fairy tales for weak people who hang onto others, rather than stand their own ground, or make their own way out of personal principle for their own honest families.
We all know that the kray twins did bad things however they were right about Jim fix it back in the late 70s and 80s
Shame Ronnie was the same with his rent boys. Pot calling kettle black
Ronnie didn't pretend to be a charity worker.
Reg preyed on young boys in prison
Nutcases not romantic stories portrayed here.
Can't understand why people make them out to be heroes!!
ww2 children like many others,always makes me laugh that they became famous if you like when there was so so many other children that went through ww2 and did the same, thankfully these days we pay our tax by the millions for countrys like gaza etc,stuff our own, what was it called, oh yes british stiff upper lip, reaped what was sowed, but as i said before, thank goodness there is no more mindless killing etc these days :)
Thugs, given too much praise and time as if they were a dource of pride. Vile criminals and murderers.
The titled people are the most devious
Lucas couldn't have cared less about young boys being abused he was concerned about people at the top being exposed
I'm sure he was jealous after being rejected by Ronnie .
Interesting the number of villains who spoke badly of them after they died.
Saying they were poofs ,mugs,grasses etc would they've done this when they were living?
Bully boys who were locked in a cell from the age of 35 !!!
Absolute pathetic - and these are heroes ?
I’d rather look up to the local farmer .
Pathetic bullying individuals
Be lucky ❤
Yes they are heroes. They are my two dads
I wouldn't look up to my local farmer he's worse than the krays?
@@robmiller2773 imagine tho -- locked in a cell at 35 !!! FOREVER
There is nothing glamorous about their lives . Their lives were absolute SHYTE .
Be good people and love your family ❤️
Not one of them had the joy of raising a child … WOW
🤯
No one’s saying they were heroes but at least they belonged to us.nipper lies and talks shit.he spoke of jack like he was mother Teresa for Christ’s sake. Is it better now then?now that the police locked up the locals ,why?so they could move the third world in
Never heard of the K Twins until that Ronnie Kray Legend meme
about 6 months ago.
Wasn't anyone brave enough to tell Charlie about his hairdo?
Business at the front Party at the back 😂
Thought he was wearing a judges wig 😂
Apparently they were identical twins but to me they look nothing like each other. Ronald is heavy build, while Roger is slimmer.
Roger
@Jack_Warner
Woger.?..fwee woger 😂
@@stephenwalters8006 woger wools
@@stephenwalters8006 Fwee Wodewick.. 😂
This is a true story the Krays sent their collectors going from shop to shop and one shop keeper who was Ukrainian pretending to not understand Cockney language. They were four of them two of them started to throw things around in the shop breaking objects of value, the Ukrainian rushed to a bin holding broom handles broke it half and started using them using oriental fighting skills knocked out two of them out cold and the other two ran away. The shop keeper phoned for the Police they arrived and the Ukrainian showed his MI6 card to the Police, they said no problems took the two into a Paddy wagon to cut the story this was a Special trained by the SAS and ex SOE of the dark arts and the Krays never went to that shop ever again .
There were mixed feelings, apparently, when the Krays eventually ended up in prison for murder. According to Leslie Burman, there were people who'd done a lot worse than them. That most likely is the case but hey - that's the price of fame...
..and no, I don't mean Alan and Georgie.
richardsons etc?
IT'S NOT CALLED RESPECT IT'S CALLED FEAR THEY WERE MONSTERS
Yeah but they are really interesting to
@@connie-roseno they weren't
Unlike pedos and and child killers who would get five years and back on the streets !!!
This was a time when the gangsters ruled the manor
@@justinboon3811 Ruled what exactly???Control of nothing until another mad gangster would kill them,it goes round and around and nobody ever wins at all so it is all a pointless waste of time,kill kill kill and kill what a life look at the time we are in now in 2023,the ferrel teenager's who ride on bikes and black balaclava during the day and stick knives in you if you just look at them,??!!
When People are Afraid of You
You Can do Anything
Remember that.
30:47 the sound cut out on the narration and interviews.
My nan used to write to them in prison. She is gone now but she still has the letters written back by then in my grandads attic
The reality is very different then the myth. They had close working relationship with corrupt elements in the Police who protected them. They preyed on small business and bookmakers, if they never paid up they got windows broken or worse. Knowing they were protected. They also procured young males for members of the house of lords, who made sure they never got their collar felt, but they got arrogant to the point they had to be brought down. People who really knew them including their enforcers didn't have a good word to say about them.thats the reality. Freddie Foreman stated they were so dangerously unstable to be around, especially Ronnie, they would have been taken out.
That's a very good comment on the reality of these thugs.
Thank you for writing this. 👏
When Ronnie walked into the Astor it was like the queen had walked in
I’m on 23:30
This particular video really puts me in mind of the "Piranha Brothers" sketch by the Pythons! 😂
Doug and Dinsdale !
@@michaelscales5996 Look out for Spiny Norman!
Thought the same, but couldn't remember the name of the sketch! Ta 😂.
Brilliant
The dark side of alcoholism - it destroys you - permanently😂😂
Very intresting
Sound problem from 30-50 to 38-00 and 40-00 to 42-40 and also 44-20 to 45-12. Spoilt an otherwise excellent video
I met Charlie at a boxing promotion in the Royal garden hotel that JP Snr was promoting . He was an absolute gent different class
You think they handed over all of the charity money??? Not on your life.
They did on occasion. In fact some people took advatage of them later on would write letters to them saying they needed an operation or their kid needed one could they pay for it and they would send them money. Sometimes not bothering to check whether it was true or not.
Rip krays XOXO declan XOXO ❤trevdec ❤singer ❤XOXO songwriter ❤
Sound goes for me late part shame😊
Someone please sort the dreadful sound levels on this upload
A prisoner took chips off Reggie's plate, he was humiliated for a long time by prison officers and other prisoners, until Reggie exploded and done him in his cell. If you are thinking of doing crime and becoming a criminal, always think about who you will meet in prison, there's always someone bigger than you. Just saying. 🙌🙌🙌
my great nan knew them and met them, she's still alive at 94
Godbless to your Nan!
@Hatikvah1163 they were very nice to her and she said they treated family and friends very well
My grandfather was Leslie burman the first man on the documentary to speak. I hope your nan is still well. They probably knew each other. Sadly he passed 31-08-1997. Same day as princess died Diana coincidentally
They respected and protected elderly ladies - these days we have a generation of low-lifes who will pull a knife on your Gran to get her handbag, just for their next 'fix'. Sadly, it's happening increasingly.😢
I bought the Tom Hardy movie, amazing true story.
He his one of my favorite actors and did a good job playing both krays. But the best movie for me was the first krays film made in the 80,s i think with the to real life brothers 👍
They were just thugs with huge egos. The richest criminals and even legit business owners, you have never heard of.
""She fell down on her knees and grasped my legs" yeah of course she did nipper
one reason why they were not released early was because the authorities knew
their ‘businesses’ continued while they were in prison.
I heard it evolved from the protection money racketeering. inmates wanted to be part of their ‘gang’. Also criminals who wanted to do business in london would pay good money for a prison meeting and twins would hook them up and get a commission from deals. they also had ‘foot soldiers’ outside affiliated to them
also they were always in the press, with books and films out, celebrity figures and people kept claiming to be connected with them when they were not.
if they had kept a low profile they would have been let out earlier
At 21:05 the man couldn’t be more wrong. Ron didnt shoot George just for ‘show’, he shot him because he kept mocking Ron for his sexuality. Obvious, so it’s weird this man has no clue.
Reggie and Ronnie Kray legends and always will be
Pair of fiko’s “ I want to get married “
“ l want to go abroad
Then get left alone “
For all the assholes that were complicate there all in the best place now
What the hell is going on with Charlie Kray's 'air ! ?
The crazy Crays apparently didn pay off the right sort of toffs? What!😅😮
Different level back then the country is fckd now
My father had the utmost respect for them. He often visited in Broadmoor Hospital. He got to know the men not the criminals.
@AffectionateBambooForest-hj8uj that's very presumptuous of you.
So much shit spoken on here, they were criminals
Lord Robert Augustus Boothby and Lord Thomas Cornelius Dryberg.
I wonder if Ronnie was carrying out a copy cat Killing of George Cornell to that of Al Capone
All the chite I see about these 2 ...they would touch the hard ones like Roy Shaw Albert and bobby reading and Lennie Maclean even though he was a youngster then and the Greeks in west London
The interviews with the various nasties are like a comedian playing charactors. The old timer tough guy act is beyond tiresome. 🙄🙄🙄🙄
Be interesting to see you say that to their faces back in the day, do you think you'd have the balls to do that ?? All so easy to say 55 plus years later !!
That’s the thing about the UK, drinking and gambling is legal as long as it’s run by a small group of mainly upper class people.
The longer I live in New Zealand the more I wonder why we put up with the class system
There is a class system everywhere. Including New Zealand.GET OUT MORE
The class system is alive and kicking, worst of all in the U.S, the land of the free "As long as you do what you're told".
And as long as you have money, lots! In the US your income determines your place in the class pecking order. Their class system is just as rigid as in the UK.@@PaulCarew-j9j
they'd sort khan out lol
Yes they would.
It is just a pity that they didn't sort the filthy, dirty royal family, and the establishment
If only
Would of already happend 😂
Not Khabib or Ali tho 😂
Everyone on here think they know and can judge people they have never met in there lives over people who clearly knew them better and actually spent time with them. 😂
Terrible audio.
If Donaghue was sitting in the cab of the van how could he describe what was happening in the back so accurately?
One who grassed on the Twins
@@rogerhoward4634 After they tried to order him to take the rap for one of their murders you mean? Would you have took the life sentence for them like a good little boy? I know i wouldn't.
I thought the same. Donaghue couldn't have seen what he claimed from where he claimed to be. Criminals lie. Who knew? ;)
Some people don't listen he was in the back not in the front. He was just at the top end telling the driver where to go.
They should be priminister of British in 2024
According to her memoirs, Barbara Windsor had a fling with all three Kray brothers.
@@chillin101 I'm reading her autobiography, and yes, it did seem so. To be fair, she does admit it. I've lost count of the numbers and I'm only at the start of her career!.
She must have taken it up the bum with Ronnie
She was just a mattress..
@@ausdude121Yes, it would seem so.
Mattress...!!!Funnee!!😂😂😂
2 Bob the pair of em.
Say it to their faces!
Yeah that's why Tom Hardy plays them in a movie and they ran the town they lived in . Your 2 Bob mate
And Morrissey has an album about Ron Kray. 2 Bob eh
Ya mas 2 bob
@@josephkennedy8281 say it to their face then
Prison saved the krays life
They say crime don't pay im not sure about that
Ronnie Kray the legend
These gangsters kept order amongst all the criminals. Sex offenders. Home robbers etc was not tolerated like today! They did a lot of the police work for them! Now so called men tolerate sex offenders and home robbers. Expecting our woke police to deal with it which they have no interest in doing.
Ron was a serious, and I mean serious sex offender. He r* ped boys, regularly, everyone knew about it, no one cared.
Stop living in fantasy land.
@@Gae-hp9dowell said. They were hypocrites, among many other dreadful things.
todays police employ from the p3do flag! @@chillin101
@@drifter56WTF 🤬🤬🤬🤬 that's SOOOO f**ked up 🤬🤬🤬🤬
Yes, they were the only law and order that this pathetic country has ever had.
When they tried to take over Birmingham, the Fewtrell brothers sent them packing.
Heard a similar story about them being met by a local gangster at lime street station when they came to liverpool and met at piccadilly when they came to manchester.
They were met by the chuckle brothers when they went Rotherham
@@RefinedRouge And The Everly brothers ran em outta Knoxville Tennesse when they went across the pond with their bucket 'n' spades.
😂🤣 chuckle brother's
They were not Mafia Gangster's they were London's Gangster's Original and still Famous now
'GANGSTERS' not 'GANGSTER'S'. In English there is no apostrophe 'S' in plurals. This isn't rocket science. This is basic primary school English.
Too unstable even for national service!
Couple of irons
Kiddy fiddlers
They were never the "undisputed "rulers of London gangland. Out side of Bethnal green They were just another two hard nuts like most of the villains at the time
The Richardsons gang were more feared & more violent.
Who cares ?
They are both dead . Neither had kids . They have completely gone - the direct bloodline has completely ended 👍
I agree. They were a firm among firms. They just wanted to be known. I could be wrong…
Gangster's but also Gentleman and Human Beings not like the Worm's that are around today
Lucas, Judas trying to save his hierarchy friends!!
Alcohol and mind altering substances is the problem shirt and tie give people a false attitude. 🙏
Very like our present government won't you say ,
TODAY I DONE NOT ANYONE HAS RESPECT FOR ANYTHING BUT I DO
The Krays were hard. West Ham? They'd fucking shit 'em.
As violent as they were & as many people they beat up it's a wonder they weren't assassinated by guys they beat down.
Both gay...!👻
And? What of it.
@@cutekanjii are they being victimised ?
@@duncanbedford4765 no just asking why u feel the need to say it? Whats it matter
@@cutekanjii you tell me ?
And ??????
R.I.P. Ronnie and Reggie Kray also Charlie Kray
If they didnt get jailed they would have eventually sold drugs. Becouse if another team did and knew all about the drugs market from prices to distributers and retailers and the right sources they would earn millions and build bigger teams to take over. A couldnt see the krays allowing that. Plus guys would take them out as the money involved is alot. More in a year than they had made all there days. If done right. But its a dog eat dog game as big and easy money makes sure of that.
I have full this they were in prison to long Reggie should have been released at least 10 years before he passed away long life the KRAYS they were good .
Ahhhhh...i dont believe none of that either ....why dont they leave those poor boys alone ...RIP Reginald and Ronald
Both were queer.
And??????
@@No1grandma74 Are you Gay?
The dulcet tones of Michael Aspel commentating.
Reggie and Ronnie Kray were bad but they were still human beings not like the Evil Dirty Monsters around today absolute Legends
The Krays were Legends and still are
Ron and Reg Kray 2024
how old is this???? half these people are dead now
The kray twins wouldnt mess with the marx brothers groucho was badder than them😅
For wit and wisecracks - most certainly.
Because he was nipper he was
Must be old footage, Donaghue doesn't look picked
Lol
Lol
When Charley kray speaks you can hear the saliva in his mouth 🤢
Is Charlie Kray joking. There was only one path all 3 brothers were interested in, C R I M E .
The only gay in the village.
Born crooks😂 that was just there way of living where they Evil I say NO they helped alot of people aswel the people they hurt wasn't innocent
Alright nosh
Nipper reed you were wrong what you did to the kray twins they were good boys they went into my dads night club in Watford called the clock house they behaved impeccable well done boys
🤦 Muppet
Bloody hell that guys a grass for all seasons there's nothing he's not happy to gossip about , & on camera at that, no wonder he thought he was gunna get 1 in the bk of the head.. snitch
They became legends through clever media brainwashing and everyone loves a good film..i grew up in there world they were maniplutive through some muscle they had around them...i was lucky i was over the river our south london was more ruthless the twins never ventured into our bandit country Bermondsey it was a no go area for outsiders..👍
I ran with the poplar mob in the 60,s and we regularly went over south London and wreaked havoc and never had any problems serving up the Bermondsey bum boys
@@simonholmes7945 in your feckin dreams U wanna B 100%🍋
Krays are legends
Your playing cards for money Charlie its called illegal gambling
The kray fish brothers.
Reggie Kray the legend