Lords of the Underworld Documentary about Lord Boothby and Ronnie Kray 720p

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  • @jean6872
    @jean6872 Рік тому +28

    *_A shame to see Lord Boothby get away with forcing himself onto working class lads scared of the Krays. Terrible hypocrisy and corruption in the English government as usual._*

  • @allangilchrist5938
    @allangilchrist5938 Рік тому +21

    Boothby and a young 'Black' man. It's a wonder the BBC hasn't commissioned a twenty-part series on the subject.

    • @charliejackman2953
      @charliejackman2953 Рік тому +3

      Goodness me, that made me laugh for far too long! Thankyou

    • @allangilchrist5938
      @allangilchrist5938 Рік тому

      @@charliejackman2953 Thanks Charlie for your reply.

    • @zivkovicable
      @zivkovicable Рік тому

      @@allangilchrist5938 Ho ho, sexual assault, how hilarious...You two are sickos.

  • @lorenzbroll0101
    @lorenzbroll0101 Рік тому +52

    In my opinion it's the only reason they legalised Homosexuality because politicians were getting increasingly compromised. Nothing to do with humanity or human rights.

    • @oldtimer7635
      @oldtimer7635 Рік тому +2

      Really? You would like to ban them today?

    • @TfL1901
      @TfL1901 Рік тому +23

      @@oldtimer7635 that’s not what he said. How in earth have you inferred that?

    • @Tawny6702
      @Tawny6702 11 місяців тому +2

      On the contrary it was taking a big risk for those MP’s to support the decriminalization of homosexuality, being that there was so much public opposition to it back in the mid sixties, and in fact it was a conservative peer Lord Arran who proposed it in 1965…..who was straight btw! In fact it was that unpopular with many of the public, some MPs attributed their defeat in the 1968 election for supporting the bill that passed the previous year!
      Yes some might have been secretly gay, but decriminalizing was nothing to do with what you are suggesting!

    • @christinehall6441
      @christinehall6441 11 місяців тому +5

      Also it removed the power from blackmailing creeps. 😊

    • @dianethibault4265
      @dianethibault4265 10 місяців тому +1

      @@oldtimer7635 are you deliberately missing his point

  • @joanofarc708
    @joanofarc708 Рік тому +23

    God almighty they turn your stomach

  • @polopopolo2197
    @polopopolo2197 4 роки тому +69

    Sir Cyril Smith, Lord Boothby, Jimmy Savile. All outgoing, charismatic individuals who had deep secrets.

    • @ivorbiggun2665
      @ivorbiggun2665 3 роки тому +4

      Kiddy fiddlers should be publicly shamed, Tattoed on foreheads so they can't hide in plain sight, if they offend again castration......scumbags

    • @linleysmith4528
      @linleysmith4528 Рік тому

      Notice that these pedophiles are in the top echelon of names that I suppose you could hardly accuse them of these horrendous allegations Now we know better !!!! 🥰

    • @j.p2213
      @j.p2213 Рік тому +6

      They are all in the same place.

    • @ursulastaempfli759
      @ursulastaempfli759 Рік тому +16

      Deep secrets? not so much. Many people knew what was going on an kept quiet. These turd burglars should all be busted.

    • @TheGillybro
      @TheGillybro Рік тому +20

      Jimmy savile was NOT charismatic...he was NASTY!

  • @billybronco4223
    @billybronco4223 Рік тому +22

    What a sordid corrupt world this documentary paints.

    • @Gae-hp9do
      @Gae-hp9do 10 місяців тому +2

      Only difference is today they would be proud of themselves and regarded as 'stunning and brave' .......

  • @oldtimer7635
    @oldtimer7635 Рік тому +13

    Fantastic documentary, thank you!

  • @ShahPhilLeotardo
    @ShahPhilLeotardo Рік тому +54

    Lord Boothby on This is your Life
    Eamonn Andrew’s “Lord Boothby do you remember this old friend?”
    “BOOTHBY YOU SLAG, REMEMBER THE TIME YOU WERE SHAGGING RENTBOYS ROUND MY FLAT!”
    Eamonn “That’s right Boothby it’s your old pal Ronnie Kray.”
    Eamonn “Boothby do you remember this voice from your past?”
    “Boothby ya c**t you were shagging my missus behind my back and you might have knocked her up.”
    Eamonn “That’s right Boothby it’s former Prime Minister and husband of your ex lover Harold McMillan.”

  • @andrewarthurmatthews6685
    @andrewarthurmatthews6685 Рік тому +11

    With all that lying he obviously was well suited to be a politician

  • @Calvin23
    @Calvin23 Рік тому +26

    We don’t know 10 percent of the real story and all the people involved are dead. There’s a reason Krays we’re jailed for 30 years which was excessive for that time.

    • @christorpher84
      @christorpher84 Рік тому +1

      dead and burning in HELL

    • @dionlindsay2
      @dionlindsay2 11 місяців тому +3

      The trouble with that is, how can we know how much we don't know? It has to come down to either facts that don't fit, but might fit other including innocent explanations, or gaps in our knowledge which you reckon at 90% of the real story - but how can you ascribe characteristics to gaps. It's like having pieces of a jigsaw puzzle where the content is covered over: you might be able to find a gap where the shape fits, but since you don't know the content, or the size of the overall jigsaw, you can't know that piece is supposed to go there.

    • @Calvin23
      @Calvin23 11 місяців тому

      @@dionlindsay2 That number is an estimate and it’s based on the established facts of the cases, testimonials of the people that knew them etc. it could be 20 percent or 1 percent but we definitely don’t know the whole story. There was no internet, social media or camera phones at the time so the information is very limited. Many of the secrets have died with people involved. We can all agree that we know that much.

    • @dionlindsay2
      @dionlindsay2 11 місяців тому +1

      @@Calvin23 It's very likely true that "we don't know the whole story". But if you're saying what we know could be 1 percent or 20 percent or anything short of the whole story, then 10% isn't an estimate, it's hyperbole. I'm probably overegging my criticism, but you are a bit easy!

  • @dianethibault4265
    @dianethibault4265 Рік тому +8

    Boothby, Savile, Max Clifford, R olf Harris, all treasured ornaments at the BBC coincidence, oh, yes

    • @Jame629
      @Jame629 29 днів тому

      Been at it since their first broadcast 😅 God help us

  • @seansagristano7008
    @seansagristano7008 4 роки тому +12

    darkness fills my heart with pain

  • @karate4348
    @karate4348 Рік тому +12

    the underworld and the exclusive set... two sides of the same coin, person, society both hiding and cultured by secrets (about the training of how to educate children through pain).

    • @harryleighton7500
      @harryleighton7500 11 місяців тому

      That is a very smart comment !
      - I’ve never looked at it that way before !

  • @thedeadstig123
    @thedeadstig123 4 роки тому +11

    this is a secret history documentary from channel 4, im guessing they cut the opening titles off to stop youtube deleting it

  • @kdsgirly5573
    @kdsgirly5573 Рік тому +9

    Makes you wonder about the upbringing, the parents of these deviants. I mean what happened in childhood.

    • @AnnabelleJARankin
      @AnnabelleJARankin Рік тому +6

      Privileged and unsupervised!

    • @AnnabelleJARankin
      @AnnabelleJARankin 11 місяців тому

      @danswhite8544 In what ways is public school no different from the care system?

  • @bernardcassidy6497
    @bernardcassidy6497 Рік тому +5

    I only recall the name of Lord Boothby in a skit by Benny Hill , Lord Boothby, played by Benny Hill is being interviewed, he's sitting in a big leather chair and every time he moves, with some pontification ,the leather squeaks like a fart and it gets louder and louder, farty Boothby .

    • @thewomble1509
      @thewomble1509 Рік тому

      I bet Hill was at a few of Boothby's parties............

  • @noramartin96
    @noramartin96 Рік тому +4

    And so the corruption continues unabated

  • @i.marr.6688
    @i.marr.6688 3 місяці тому +2

    I'd say Ronnie Kray knew what Jimmy Savile was up to when Savile visited Broadmoor and was on the board and sometimes lived there, Ron Kray would have spoken to Savile because Savile was the famous charity DJ and TV star, but something tells me Ron knew what he was and may have let some of his pals know, If Ron did know who Savile was and what he was doing ,why wouldn't he try to expsose it by using his friends In the underworld. Maybe he tried and that would have kept him in forever, Even when J.Pearson was writing the book and both were jailed ,Pearson was giving hIm pics of Ron and Bootbhy ,when Pearson left them in his flat and went on holiday when he got back his flat was robbed and only the pics taken. Something weird happened there,

  • @theemeraldone82-eo3iq
    @theemeraldone82-eo3iq 3 місяці тому +1

    Mad Teddy wasn't murdered, He knew by 1967 after Jack the Hat was killed it was all coming to an end, He simply fled to Australia where he stayed until around 2004. He returned to the UK and died in 2006 I think it was 06. I don't know how Nipper couldn't find him and didn't know he fled down under.

  • @melgrant7404
    @melgrant7404 2 роки тому +26

    Not forgetting cliff Richard as Ronnies boy

    • @Hellserch
      @Hellserch Рік тому

      And Leslie Grantham. Don’t forget that little coward.

    • @oldmacdreadapexriddims1460
      @oldmacdreadapexriddims1460 Рік тому +8

      Visitors book at Elm Bank Guest House had many showbiz names too one being called Kitty 👀

  • @angr3819
    @angr3819 2 роки тому

    Thank you

  • @BarryPennock
    @BarryPennock 10 місяців тому

    Apart from everything else, it is worth it just to hear the Cockney and Toff accents.

  • @Scrapper.
    @Scrapper. День тому

    Ol' Boothby liked booty, by Jove. Or as the saying goes...'A hole or a pole'. Although his name is not mentioned in this documentary (doc from the 1980s I'm guessing?), in hindsight I have no doubt that Jimmy Savile was intertwined in the seedy, sleazy side, particularly in the grooming of children. Saville was immersed, very prolific in that sinister, shadowy world from the late 1950s onwards for at least three decades. He was also a master of threatening lawsuits, which might explain his absence from this doc. Although it's a dark subject, there's lots of amusing innuendo hither 'n' thither in this doc......"He needed to get out of a hole." Great doc. Thanks for upload. Respect from Ireland.

  • @normanseagull4027
    @normanseagull4027 Рік тому +5

    And Cliff Richard. ....

  • @propagandatwo
    @propagandatwo Рік тому +10

    Homosexuals and politics: old as time.

  • @pmajudge
    @pmajudge Рік тому +4

    SIR CLIFF RICHARD'S " FRIEND" HENCE , CLIFF GOT A KINGHTHOOD !!!!!!!! LORD BOOTHY . FROM. U.K. (2023).

  • @danielfrancis3660
    @danielfrancis3660 9 місяців тому +2

    She had huge hands like hams!

  • @terrenceburton7903
    @terrenceburton7903 Рік тому +5

    Ughhhhhhj....sick.

  • @matthewbarham8954
    @matthewbarham8954 8 місяців тому

    The words "tall building" come to mind!

  • @Smudgie
    @Smudgie Рік тому +2

    This is real Doug and Dinsdale stuff! Not to mention Harry "Snapper" Organs.

  • @robertmiller1299
    @robertmiller1299 Рік тому +9

    Boothby was a horrible man

  • @chd1694
    @chd1694 Рік тому +4

    Lord BOOTY

  • @Jame629
    @Jame629 29 днів тому

    This story just makes me think how since its first broadcast its been having these scandalous people makes you wonder doesn't it

  • @h.i.m3646
    @h.i.m3646 5 місяців тому +1

    "Bob was a bit of a shit", we thought he ate it whilst under a glass topped coffee table?

  • @buffplums
    @buffplums 11 місяців тому

    34:23 “Do they mean ME”? …. “They surely do” 😂😂😂😂

  • @jackmcnally9237
    @jackmcnally9237 Рік тому +11

    Revolting man !

  • @swarthyjake4433
    @swarthyjake4433 3 роки тому +4

    after meeting Lord Boothby and Tom Driberg MP , Ron was all for forming his own political party called the Firm , he had big plans not just as an MP , but actually being Prime Minister , he would listen to Winston Churchill speeches and tried to talk like him , sadly it was not to be as he had a criminal record , and was barred from entering politics .

    • @billpugh58
      @billpugh58 Рік тому +1

      “Sadly”? Well he would have been better than the last 5 UK PMs!

    • @yamahal1
      @yamahal1 3 місяці тому

      Sadly ???..

  • @Laughandsong
    @Laughandsong Рік тому +4

    So Ronnie Kray was KrayKray.

  • @thecricketbatguitar4413
    @thecricketbatguitar4413 Рік тому

    Opening photo from only fools and horses at 21.53 !!!

  • @soloperformer5598
    @soloperformer5598 Рік тому +5

    Strange, no mention of Harry Webb.

    • @JB-gq9ed
      @JB-gq9ed Рік тому +1

      Who?

    • @soloperformer5598
      @soloperformer5598 Рік тому

      @@JB-gq9ed An internet search will provide that information.

    • @Crh198
      @Crh198 Рік тому +1

      ​@@JB-gq9ed Aka Kitty 😺

    • @oldmacdreadapexriddims1460
      @oldmacdreadapexriddims1460 Рік тому

      Elm Bank Guest House signed register singer/entertainer posing as Kitty cr

    • @oldtimer7635
      @oldtimer7635 Рік тому

      How about you doing something about it? And yeah, they didn't safe the world as well!

  • @Actingskint
    @Actingskint Рік тому +1

    Sadly keep losing the sound on this upload . Shame

    • @davidfelix2594
      @davidfelix2594 Рік тому +3

      Something wrong with the device you're watching it on then...there's nothing wrong with the sound.

    • @mrsapplez2007
      @mrsapplez2007 Рік тому +3

      Watching it now mate and sound is ok

  • @davidlincolnbrooks
    @davidlincolnbrooks Рік тому +1

    Time: 20:32 My exact birthday: Feb. 17th, 1963 Wild.

  • @user-qi2sx8kx6r
    @user-qi2sx8kx6r 7 місяців тому

    Wots more chilling is that this behaviour is now cinsidered very normal in bureaucracy

  • @richardcrook2112
    @richardcrook2112 Рік тому +2

    19:30 That's not the full set of photographs lol.

  • @andrewrobinson2565
    @andrewrobinson2565 Рік тому +1

    What a shame that the pure 1970s nudge-nudge script couldn't have been voiced by Frankie Howerd or Kenneth Williams - ooer Missus 😮🎉😂.

  • @simonrobson2293
    @simonrobson2293 11 місяців тому +4

    Bum bandits

  • @jahkarl7376
    @jahkarl7376 7 місяців тому

    Robert Augustus Boothby and Thomas Cornelius Driberg.

  • @patgal2359
    @patgal2359 Рік тому +3

    The crays could probably shoot someone on 5th avenue and get away with it.

    • @dionlindsay2
      @dionlindsay2 11 місяців тому

      Only if they had strong friendships with the Americans - Mafia or corrupt politicians. But when were they even IN the good old USA?

  • @keithkaosHarv
    @keithkaosHarv 11 місяців тому +1

    Just your average Tory really.

  • @tobyfletcher6803
    @tobyfletcher6803 Рік тому +2

    who on this is the narrator

  • @theprior46
    @theprior46 Рік тому +1

    Such a shame this original film has such deteriorated narration sound track as it's so wooly even the subtitles can't filter out the sloppy upper class indistinct mumbling of the narrator. It needs re editing with someone who can speak clearly being dubbed over the old useless sound track. Ploughing through it causes what we used to call "listening fatigue".

    • @theprior46
      @theprior46 11 місяців тому

      @sydmccreath4554 You're lucky you haven't got an age related hearing issue. Even so I would still find your wooly diction caused by that inferior recording even if I had 100% good hearing. It's not Opinion it's an auditory fact.

    • @dionlindsay2
      @dionlindsay2 11 місяців тому

      Captioning wasn't that accurate 4 years ago when this was loaded. And since that's only the most recently captioning could have been applied, you're probably restricted to even older captioning technology. Very little chance unless you had received pronunciation accents instead of the drawls you hear here. But no, I reckon I follow the voice pretty accurately anyway.

  • @saraswatkin9226
    @saraswatkin9226 11 місяців тому

    Has anything changed in 21st Century?

  • @joeboyd8702
    @joeboyd8702 4 роки тому +3

    Also known as Angus Brendan Macneil MP.

    • @Hellserch
      @Hellserch Рік тому

      Be careful. There are dark forces protecting certain people.

    • @joeboyd8702
      @joeboyd8702 Рік тому +1

      @@Hellserch you men the institutionally corrupt police?

    • @Hellserch
      @Hellserch Рік тому

      @@joeboyd8702 More than that. The Rubber Souls are nastier bastards and will fit you up for sneezing. They troll UA-cam, amongst other places and when you put a public name out there, they pick it up. I’m saying this in goodwill.

    • @joeboyd8702
      @joeboyd8702 Рік тому

      @@Hellserch I know all about corrupt police from Royalty and Specialist Protection in particular.

    • @joeboyd8702
      @joeboyd8702 Рік тому +1

      @@Hellserch You mean people like DC Gianpaolo Pavarani of royalty and specialist protection? I already complained about him.

  • @carlosdeno
    @carlosdeno Рік тому +8

    Young boys, half the smell twice the grip. Pass me another, I’ve split this one! I honestly hate to think what this motley lot got up too.

  • @Johnconno
    @Johnconno Рік тому +1

    Cedra Court 😂

  • @rhatid
    @rhatid Рік тому +2

    The fight to get a decent police force has been long and hard. For a long time it was a losing battle but it bravely struggled into the light and had some days into the sun and worthwhile successes, for which the society, indeed the world should be grateful because it showed what could be achieved when decency and good people prevail. Alas, those days have passed and I fear it has again been trampled into shadows again by governments, politicians, previleged patrician and media. Good luck to decency, it may be down but not out.

    • @zivkovicable
      @zivkovicable Рік тому

      So the police "had some days in the sun"..i really must have missed those. Could you give a rough timeline when you think that was? .

  • @hootsmon4723
    @hootsmon4723 7 місяців тому

    Was every politician a bandit in the 60s.😂😂😂

  • @Hellserch
    @Hellserch Рік тому +25

    Can nobody see the resemblance between Boothby amd Boris Johnson?

    • @13strange67
      @13strange67 Рік тому +4

      no

    • @AA-69
      @AA-69 Рік тому

      SHIT ....YOU DONT MEAN HE'S HIS FATHER 😱

    • @bettyhunder6146
      @bettyhunder6146 Рік тому +3

      NO

    • @JoMad53
      @JoMad53 Рік тому +11

      I understand what you mean. Boothby and BJ are both bullshitters who are entitled, assume they can get away with any impropriety and are callous in the extreme.

    • @andrewmorton395
      @andrewmorton395 Рік тому +2

      Yes definitely

  • @theemeraldone82-eo3iq
    @theemeraldone82-eo3iq 3 місяці тому

    Have to say his story about meeting Hitler and Boothby saying what he said was funny , even tho it was bullshit

  • @AnnabelleJARankin
    @AnnabelleJARankin Рік тому +1

    Blimey!

  • @nachman5570
    @nachman5570 Рік тому

    Intraterrestrials😮

  • @stickykitty
    @stickykitty 7 місяців тому +1

    Still no mention of the Pedo Ring

  • @jasonvolta3657
    @jasonvolta3657 3 роки тому +4

    I know very little about this, but from what I understand it was a POLITICAL affair, not a seciety scandal. They seem to cover up the real issues with some salacious gossip, that frankly should not interest anybody.

  • @xmaseveeve5259
    @xmaseveeve5259 11 місяців тому

    All fake.