Happy subscriber here! I am amazed, a bit, how instructibe this game was. At one point I was the human playing black had worked a draw. How wrong could I have been. Learned some excellent end game strategy here. Thanks for your work on this one, too, Jerry!
I signed out too soon! I want to make note of the time format for this. It was 60" with additional increments. At the end of the game Mr Benjamin 2" remaining while Leela had 122" on the clock. Does this mean Leela played so quickly that no time was taken just we only see the addition of the increments? If so, Wow!
Yes, Leela took only one to two seconds per move, because our testing showed that longer thinking makes it play too "correctly" (less tricky) for knight odds play. It doesn't need to look deeper than a human is likely to be able to see; it often allows complicated wins rather than simplifying to avoid them.
Hey there, Jerry! Love your content, but would you consider doing some more live commentary videos again, for example of titled tuesdays or cccc? I watched all of your titled arena videos back in the day, as well as the mini Lichess match between Leela and Stockfish, which is one I still come back to time after time. Also, I really enjoyed your recent videos of live playing this Leela version yourself. I dunno why, but to me, yes, the pre-prepared videos are the more educational ones, but the live ones are much more fun (while still being very educational, you do have a way with verbalizing chess, bringing your usual inner monologue to the outside). Cheers!
I've seen a similar approach by Jerry as well when he plays against LKO. He is eager, sometimes, to give back some material to try and solidify the position because he thinks that Leela will crush him. Similar to here, giving up the Rook for the Knight just to simiplify the position, thinking that Black won't be able to match up to Leela with 3 pieces each on the board.
Leela is playing without a knight. Odds are pretty common in chess when one player is far superior to another. If there's a huge gap you could give queen odds, or rook, and so on depending on the difference in strengths.
If Benjamin had the position at 7:24 of the video against any human even Magnus Carlsen and if he evaulated it as -0.6 in his favor you can be sure he wouldn''t have given back the exchange and banked on holding the position that way. No, instead he would have kept his extra material since the position after 26...Rxd5 was no longer in his favor at all. This is an example of a Grandmaster playing unprincipled chess by playing the opponent instead of the board something they always tell students not to do.
@jozefserf2024 Well, with knight odds and enough time he would win nearly every game, but that wouldn't impress or surprise anyone. He just has never shown a willingness to take on computers, unlike Kasparov and Nakamura.
A stronger GM, Awonder Liang (2687 FIDE) did play a match with the same LeelaKnightOdds, but at fast time controls. He won 2.5 to 1.5 in Rapid, but lost 8 to 2 in blitz. Based on this match and other results, we thought that a classical time limit match with a GM rated around the 2500 requirement for the title would be close. It was indeed, Joel winning by 2 to 1 plus five draws!
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This is a great example of overthinking because your opponent is of superior quality
story of my life
A fantastic win by Leela considering being a knight down _and_ only about 2 seconds thinking time per move, GM Joel had a hour plus increment.
if leela used a lot of time she would've lost every game in the match
Jerry with the jump scare at the end! I’m awake!
Another nice end game study! And a special message from Leela too?!!
Jerry, you outdone yerself!
Happy subscriber here! I am amazed, a bit, how instructibe this game was. At one point I was the human playing black had worked a draw. How wrong could I have been. Learned some excellent end game strategy here. Thanks for your work on this one, too, Jerry!
Hi Jerry, it's everyone!
Hi Jerry and Everyone, it’s me!
I took a thing or two away
Does the video flicker in the middle of the screen for anyone else?
With 720p, it seems to go away.
Yes, seems like a UA-cam compression problem.
UA-cam does bullshit to promote their premium 1080p
I signed out too soon! I want to make note of the time format for this. It was 60" with additional increments. At the end of the game Mr Benjamin 2" remaining while Leela had 122" on the clock. Does this mean Leela played so quickly that no time was taken just we only see the addition of the increments? If so, Wow!
Yes, Leela took only one to two seconds per move, because our testing showed that longer thinking makes it play too "correctly" (less tricky) for knight odds play. It doesn't need to look deeper than a human is likely to be able to see; it often allows complicated wins rather than simplifying to avoid them.
@@larrykaufman2365 Thank you for your thorough and excellent reply!
Good point by Leela. How *have* we humans made it this far? 🤪
very instructive game, thank you!
Excellent ending 🎉❤
Please make more videos and analyze Nodirbek’s games!
Hey there, Jerry! Love your content, but would you consider doing some more live commentary videos again, for example of titled tuesdays or cccc? I watched all of your titled arena videos back in the day, as well as the mini Lichess match between Leela and Stockfish, which is one I still come back to time after time. Also, I really enjoyed your recent videos of live playing this Leela version yourself. I dunno why, but to me, yes, the pre-prepared videos are the more educational ones, but the live ones are much more fun (while still being very educational, you do have a way with verbalizing chess, bringing your usual inner monologue to the outside). Cheers!
I've seen a similar approach by Jerry as well when he plays against LKO. He is eager, sometimes, to give back some material to try and solidify the position because he thinks that Leela will crush him. Similar to here, giving up the Rook for the Knight just to simiplify the position, thinking that Black won't be able to match up to Leela with 3 pieces each on the board.
Hi Jerry, suggestion for a video: Rubenstein vs Takacs 1926 1-0.
Would you please put the letters and numbers on the chessboard like you used to do in your older videos?
Thanks Jerry.
I don't know what "Knight Odds" are but I'm going to look it up. I didn't know that was a thing.
Leela is playing without a knight. Odds are pretty common in chess when one player is far superior to another. If there's a huge gap you could give queen odds, or rook, and so on depending on the difference in strengths.
Thx Jerry 😊
hi jerry!
Thanks Jerry
If Benjamin had the position at 7:24 of the video against any human even Magnus Carlsen and if he evaulated it as -0.6 in his favor you can be sure he wouldn''t have given back the exchange and banked on holding the position that way. No, instead he would have kept his extra material since the position after 26...Rxd5 was no longer in his favor at all. This is an example of a Grandmaster playing unprincipled chess by playing the opponent instead of the board something they always tell students not to do.
Leela sounds Australian! The first great chess player from down under, with no disrespect meant to Ian Rogers.
Has magus played against leela?
I don’t think he’s interested
I don't think he's interested in getting thrashed every game.
@jozefserf2024 Well, with knight odds and enough time he would win nearly every game, but that wouldn't impress or surprise anyone. He just has never shown a willingness to take on computers, unlike Kasparov and Nakamura.
Some questionable decisions by this GM. I’m curious how a stronger GM would do with knight odds.
A stronger GM, Awonder Liang (2687 FIDE) did play a match with the same LeelaKnightOdds, but at fast time controls. He won 2.5 to 1.5 in Rapid, but lost 8 to 2 in blitz. Based on this match and other results, we thought that a classical time limit match with a GM rated around the 2500 requirement for the title would be close. It was indeed, Joel winning by 2 to 1 plus five draws!