Aquaponic Dutch bucket / barrel build. Aquaponics Vlog 9..
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- Опубліковано 11 жов 2024
- Have set up the Dutch Bucket style barrel beds as a bit of an experiment in growing some ginger.. Was planning on using 15L / 5 gal buckets but think we will get more production out of the half barrels.. Have already added in a few other quick growing plants to get a speedy harvest from these guys..
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Great Dutch barrel design Rob Bob! Thanks for sharing.....
No problem.. Cheers & have a great one folks :-)
Every time I watch your videos, I catch cool stuff I missed the previous time and tips to improve my own system design. Thank you for taking the time to document your setup.
Hi Mate.. Glad the clips are giving you a few of your own ideas..
Have fun tweaking the system,
Cheers..
That's a very interesting take on the dutch bucket system. Can't imagine why it wouldn't work. Can't wait to see the results!
They re already sending out roots so I think they should do fairly well..
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Cheers & all the best..
Man, those are some serious Dutch buckets, Rob! You should be able to grow whatever you want in those things! Great job, my friend!
Thanks Keith.. Am hoping that they turn out to be too small for the ginger ;-)
Cheers mate..
Very impressive Dutch bucket setup, Rob!
Thanks Patrick.. I think they'll grow us some great ginger..
Cheers mate..
Just a tip no need to glue, Use silicone just to seal, so as you can reuse fittings easy
great vids though rob
Looking forward to seeing how this works out for you!
Sure seems like an interesting way to go about the dutch bucket style garden ...
Chilly cheers!
Really just a constant flow I suppose JT ;-)
Feel like I'm missing out not having a proper Dutch bucket set up :-/
Cheers mate & have a great weekend..
I love your videos and they provide me with many great ideas. Always great information. Always the right length. Always very positive. Well done....as always.
Glad you like the clips & hope they give you a few ideas..
Cheers & all the best,
Rob.
Looking forward to see how it works for you. Nice update!
Tim
Thanks Tim.. Think it should all go well..
Cheers mate.
Love the super size dutch buckets-well thought out Rob ! Growing a dwarf fruit tree would be really cool :)
Am thinking we might try a fig in one Larry.. Will use a branch from our dwarf tree methinks..
Cheers mate & all the best..
Rob Bob's Backyard Farming & Aquaponics How did that go? Figs are normally heavily into S&M and produce less the better you treat them...
Hey Alex. Never got to pop one in. Did strike a few mulberry cutting in there though & they took off like the clappers.
The figs in the pouches have thrived on the neglect I've shown them which is promising.
Cheers & have a top one.
I've gotta say Rob, when I did a metal sculpture introduction class, my welds never looked that good!
Wish mine did as well Siloé ;-) Will take me a few more years of tinkering around to get as good as dad methinks..
Cheers sir & all the best..
That's what dads are for!
Cheers
Nice looking set up Rob. Like your drain setup...I have Ducth Buckets too with 1/4 " hoses feeding them and they do tend to get clogged on occassion. So I am going to build a spinning seive with 120 micron SS screen into my RFF. That should keep the water solid free and I will then take that water directly into my DBs. At least that is the plan. :) I will let you know how it all turns out. Jim
Hi Jim.. Will be great to see how the sieve works for you in the RFF.. Am using some aquarium filter matting to help keep the finer solids out of the bio filter in the fish farm.. Am thinking of doing the same in the aquaponics before the bio filter as well..
All the best to you & yours..
Cheers mate...
New Barrel system looks great Rob Bob , I have a Big Blue Barrel but doesnt have any Caps for it , so I suppose it could cut it down middle like you did with the Aquaponic barrel setup you had back some time ago
Thanks George.. They work well as shallow beds that way.. Have also seen folks wick them up with a shallow reservoir for salad greens & the like ;-)
Cheers mate..
I think it looks good. I can't wait to see how the ginger does. My sis had planted an ornamental ginger that naturalized in a little area, but I have never been successful with edible ginger here in FL, even in containers. I would like having it established so I can just go out and break off a bit as needed.
This is an older clip Ronnie & got an average harvest from it. I'd say this seasons aquaponic ginger harvest will be a bout the same size if not a bit smaller due to the mishaps I've had in the system.
Cheers.
Great plumbing I look forward to viewing your progress.
So am I Patrick.. The ginger has already started to send out little root nodes which is great..
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Cheers & all the best..
Enjoyable and educational as always.
Thanks Adrian & hope it gives you a few ideas..
Cheers..
Great vid! Hoping to get a aquaponic system going this year, thank you all the great tips and ideas!!
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Thanks & hope the build goes well for you,
Cheers :-)
Thanks for sharing and look forward to future videos.
No problem Tim.. Hope the clips give you a few useful ideas mate..
Cheers..
A very interesting setup Rob :) I can't wait to see how the ginger goes.
Am thinking it should grow well Nathan.. Have a few beetroot in there just as a filler crop & have thought about adding some bush beans as well..
Cheers mate..
Great build my friend ! It will be interesting to see how it does !
Cheers Stephen.. Both barrels look to be putting on a bit of growth at the moment so am most chuffed.
Have a great week mate..
You too my friend ! I'm off to work and it's -25 outside lol
Looks wonderful 💚
Thanks..
Cheers & have a great one..
This is interesting. I would love to have a climate like your's because I would really enjoy all the build aspect of what you are doing.
Best Wishes, Brendan.
It is a lot of fun Brendan & think you would enjoy it.. Even mucking out poop & root choked grow beds is fun..
Well, that's what I keep trying to convince folks so they come over & lend a hand ;-)
Cheers sir & all the best to you both :-)
Rob Bob Actually, the mucking out of that bed is one job I would love because you get to see your work quickly and are assured achievement.
B.
baconsoda It was fun actually Brendan.. Got to see how the roots grew & got a better understanding on how to plant out the larger perennials..
Rob :-)
nice end cap doubles as a coupling sweet. ur a plumber / master gardener.
Not a master yet but would be great to get to that level one day ;-)
Cheers & all the best,
Rob.
Nice build Rob. From my somewhat limited experience I found that holes that small feeding the barrels will plug up in an aquaponics system unless the water is thoroughly filtered. I've seen your aquaponics set up and you do have a good filter system but it's difficult to filter out all the solids.
Hi Jeff.. Am not too worried at this point as none have blocked yet so hopefully they will last a while longer.. I think the feed tubes will end up coming off & a few modifications made as the ginger roots spread out.. Will show the modifications on future clips.
Cheer & all the best mate,
Rob.
Great video Rob Bob I was wandering if you may try potatoes in their. Im trying to come up with a way of growing some potatoes aquaponically. I have a few ideas just trying to find the time and resources to build it out. Nice job.
Thanks mate :-)
Spuds & carrots will be two of the first crops I plant out when the Root Pouches arrive ;-)
Cheers mate & have a great one..
That's amazing!! Well done!!!
Thanks mate.. Hope it's given you a few ideas..
Cheers,
Rob.
Great idea! i'll try some dwarf citrus in these
Am thinking about a fig after a mate sent me an email showing be his in his set up ;-)
Cheers Anthony..
nice job .good clear video thanks
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Thanks Willy.
Cheers mate.
Looks good mate.
Cheers Andy..
Have a great weekend mate..
very cool
Cheers Mr Steven :-)
Great build and the ginger's looking fantastic! If you try the dwarf fig in there, I wonder if you cut some holes in the side around the top half of the barrel if you'd be able to get an air-pruning effect to thicken up the root growth (that's worked so well on that Papaya tree), but without losing too much water...what do you think?
Brian Barth Hi Brian. Am looking at trying a few different ways to grow dwarf trees in the system but haven't ventured as far as air pruning yet. Would be a matter of trying to keep all the water in the barrel or collecting it in a tray I think. Would like to know if you come up with any ideas Mate.
Cheers & all the best.
hi, mate
love your videos.
I left Australia a few years back, and I am very surprised to see that you now use Yankee gallons instead of British.
the British gallon is 4.54 litres while the yankee one is only 3.78 litres.
so it's the old 44 gallons drum that's 200 litres.
look's like the yankees are taking over the country, that's sad.
anyway, keep the good work mate.
Hey Gilles..
I think it's slowly moving to be the other way around as I'm seeing metric used a lot more on clips coming from the USA..
I use US gallons as a lot of the folks that watch the clips are in the States.. Most of the Brits I know use metric except for a few of the old timers..
Cheers & have a good one..
Thanks for such great videos. I'd like to know if any additives are to be added and how. Thanks again from Chennai India.
I'll be doing a clip on additives in the very near future.
Cheers.
Nice update mate ;-)
Thanks Mr Dave :-) Might be starting up a few more yet ;-)
Cheers sir..
Hope it ends up better then the two fish I found floating in my tank over the weekend. (I am thinking it might of gotten too hot for them.
Hope it's just a one off for you..
Had a few stinking hot days here but the fish did fine in them luckily..
Nice Video. sorry i am beginner to this, i dont find difference btw your grow bed and the yellow dutch bucket question . can you please help me understand more .
You build like a professional. awesome
Not a professional at all Sri, just like to share the builds I add to the system.. Might give folks a few ideas on how they can do better for theirs ;-)
The other beds were set up as flood & drain units to start off with where these are more a constant flow where the water falls through the media & over the plants roots..
With the flood & drain beds they are flooded to a certain level until the siphon starts then the water is drained away into the sump for the cycle to start again.. One of the remaining beds is still set up that way but the other is a constant flow..
Will be showing how the new bell siphons work in an upcoming clip but also have an older one that might help to explain how they work..
Bell siphon, grow bed & pipework explanation. IBC Aquaponic System construction part 6.
Hope that helps some..
Tats informative. Thank you. It helps me a lot .
rob the water is constant and the barrel is always dry or it fills with water
Hi Ricardo.
The water just trickles through in this set up, much like a hydroponic Dutch bucket arrangement. 👍👍
Cheers mate.
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cool rob. and in aquaponics it has to be continuous flow, and water has to be directed at the root. 👍
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rob one more question I have, what is the best calculation to scale the amount of plants in relation to the amount of fish. Many here say that should be the amount of feed a day, particularly I follow the nitrate test but I don't know if it's right. can you help me.
@@ricardojuvanelli2172 It is best to work out planting guides to the feed going in & you will see a few different amounts being mentioned by various folks.
I think a safe amount would be 30-60g/m² for leafy greens & 50-100g/m² for fruiting plants.
I would still use the nitrate test & try to work out what level of feeds will give you what amount of excess nitrate depending on the amount & type of plants you're growing & take notes for future reference.
Hope that helps some mate.
Cheers.
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Hello Rob I'm sending the questions, if you can answer with a short video and send me thank you very much, you can send me by mega drive. 1) What solutions do you use to supplement the nutrient deficiency in the system? 2) What is the most commonly used fish stocking pattern in residential systems? 3) How do you establish the ratio of plants to fish or feed quantity? 4) One of the limiting factors in Brazil for the development of Aquaponia is the cost of feed and energy, how do these costs work in the US? 5) How do you work PH and nutrient balance in the system to suit both plants and fish? My email ricardojuvanelli@gmail.com
Have you tried potatoes in the Hempy Buckets? Also have you tried hydroton a couple of inches above your drain hole then fill it up the rest of the way with bird nest Coco Coir?
Sorry I missed this Chris. I don't like to use organic matter in the system where it could break down & cause issues. I have seen folks use it wit no issues inside the grow pouches though. Haven't tried it my self so can't day if I'd recommend using it that way or not.
Cheers.
Thank you so much for stating the conversions from mil to inches.
What sort of pump runs this system?
Hi SLOW.
I now have a Resun Sea lion 10000 LPH / 2641 gph pump running the show.
Sorry it took so long to reply.
Rob.
Hi Rob! Great channel you have! I find it to be an enormous source of useful information in helping me to get my own system up and running.
I have one question about this video in particular. Why did you plumb the feed for the DB's from your sump as opposed to tapping into the flow coming out of your filtration? Was it just a question of simplicity?
Hi Lenny & sorry for taking a while to respond.
I have the system set up so the flow is split from the sump tank. This clip runs through how the system is plumed up after these barrels weer moved.
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Hope that helps some.
How well does the water spread out across the clay media? I Imagine it would drain extremely well, with the water draining near vertically? Unless the roots go near to directly under the water outlet you'd think it would be pretty dry in the top segment.... or at least until the water has cascaded out a bit wider.... I'd imagine it would be difficult to germinate seeds, but seedlings would do fine? Ginger and other rhizomes would have enough stored energy to get the roots out? I'll be watching with anticipation Rob :-) Much cheaper option than building an IBC grow bed stand, and a narrower footprint as well.
Hey Mr Justin.. At the moment the water is cascading over the clay under the surface of the bed & spreading out to 75-100mm/3-4".. In some spots it isn't spreading as far but I'm not worried about that as the ginger roots will search the water out & will also help spread the flow around the barrel once they multiply.. You can come around to have a look if you want.. I could do with a hand cleaning out a few beds worth of clay ;-)
The other option would be to drill holes on an angle off the pipe to spray the water out further or like bo ter berg suggested create a hoop.. Could also add a 13mm/½" "X" or "T" in the centre to spread the wet zone out.. If I was to plant a few plants like lettuce might of set it up that way..
Cheers..
An "x" piece in the middle would do the job too I think bo ter berg..
Cheers mate..
I have no doubt it will work Rob. Just summing up in my mind the pro's and con's of flood and drain V the Dutch bucket. I'd be keen to come take a look, but will have baby in tow (as an excuse) si prob won't be able to work ... :-( ;-)
Justin Hammond She can play in the bed mate, I won't mind :-D
bo ter berg I have loads of fittings laying around Bo :D
Have fun with the build mate..
I am wanting to grow tomatoes, lettuce, okra and beans. would I be better using this system or the 55 gallon drum chop and flip? thank you
Sorry I missed this post mate. Did you end up building a Chop & Flip unit?
Rob Bob's Backyard Farm & Aquaponics yes sir.
Hello Rob, love your videos.
Quick question: with the system would you get dry spots around the edges? I'd look to grow as many beets as possible for juicing. Trying to figure out the best way to grow them via hydro or Aquaponics?
Thanks in advance!
Hi there..
Sorry for the slow reply..
I found that the beets didn't do as well in the barrels as they did in the flood & drain beds.. I think the barrels were just a bit to dry once the ginger roots took over..
Have sprinkled a few beets through the flood & drain trays the other week.. Will be using them for juicing & salads.. Have a few that have already popped & are looking good..
Cheers & have a great one..
Interesting set up, Rob. Quick question. What are your temperatures for growing your ginger? All I have found so far is "warm and humid". Yeah, well, warm is subjective from one place to another. My summer was cool compared to previous years. My ginger didn't do any thing until I covered it. Thinking of going greenhouse with it next year but would like to find out about temp ranges for various plants.
Hi Jay..
We have a summer average in the low 30's here & this spring wouldn't of been much cooler.. Might need to pop it in there green house for best results there..
Ginger likes a soil temp between 20-30°C (68-86°F) if that helps you some..
Cheers mate & hope all's well..
Helps greatly! thanks Rob. Thanks for popping in the soil temp as well. Yep. gotta go greenhouse. The last 2 years we didn't have more than 1 or 2 weeks over 30c and even that time wasn't each day in a row. Very cool and rainy.
with one hose running across your barrel, how would you water the plants that would be growing on the outside of your watered area inside your bed? this is a larger tube than a 5 g bucket, any plants in the outer edge wouldn't get as much water, would they?
It would be fairly easy to set up a round feeder ring that ran around the outside of the barrel. Has I had all the plants towards the centre their roots grew into the wet zone.
Cheers.
hello excellent video, one question, I want start to grow hydroponic lime big trees, do you consider this system good to do it?
I suppose it could be done. I'd suggest you grow a dwarf variety in there but would be concerned about the roots taking over after a few years.
Hi, I liked your videos. Just wanted to know if we can grow potetos in same way , the trickling system.
surenTokyo Hi There. Haven't seen anyone try to grow potatoes in rock or clay in trickle beds/barrels but am looking at trying some in coconut coir in Root Pouches at some point. Just need to get rid of the fish only system to make room for new grow beds ;) Would like to know how you go if you try it.
Cheers & all the best.
Great :) do you have any deep water culture tanks? (Please link if you've done a video already)
Hey Martin.. No DWC as yet but may do soon.. One of the 2 grow beds off to the side will end up being DWC I think.. Just need to clean the clay out of the second grow bed & reposition the base.. Will have to source some foam or some other material for the raft as well but that's another issue..
Cheers mate..
Rob Bob Great. I have just built a DWC system. I will make a video this week and post it hopefully. I made lots of rafts out of polystyrene. And after spending hours dilling all the basket holes and putting it together I found out the polystyrene I used may have been treated with a flame retardant chemical. So before connecting it to the fish tank I need to research a bit more. I've found it difficult to source a material in the UK that has absolutely no chemicals.
Martin Currah Am not to sure about using the styro myself but have been assured that there are food grade sheets out there... My other thought was to have the plants suspended over the water Kratky style..
Cool, stuff!
Whats going on with the water in the barrels? I'm guessing it's basically just running through, while having a few inches of water in the bottom all the time?
That's fairly much it Uncle Bete.. Will be about 1¼-1½" in the base at all times.. Will be interesting to see what's accumulated in the base at the end of the season..
Cheers & have a great one..
Awesome sir😂
Can i change clay with other materialz? Ty succes yours
Hope it grows well for you.
Cheers.
what are the disadvantage of dutch bucket to a new to aquaponic gardener like me?..was wondering if I could make a wood frame and a pond liner 12 inches deep and 24 inches by 48 inches using this system for my 8 foot by 10 foot greenhouse. ever heard of anything like that? oh sorry off a 50 gallon barrel with goldfish in it.
Hey Zach.. Sorry for the slow reply mate..
I think that any container over a bucket in size really isn't needed for a Dutch Bucket system.. The reason I went with the barrels for the ginger is that I wanted extra room for the roots to grow as they'd be a tad cramped in a normal bucket..
For a bed the size you're planing & having a 50gal barrel as your tank I think a constant flow or flood & drain bed might work better for you.. The other option would be to set up a series of Dutch buckets on a bench where you're planing the grow bed..
Hope that helps an bit & sorry again for the slow reply..
Rob..
Its all good.
Hi Rob i just started to go thru all your vlogs ... im very intressted in aquaponics and im just about to start setting one up my self.... i saw the dutch barrels and have a idea about the drip tube you have i would put it in a circle around the barrel like 10 cm from the outer edge instead of right thru it will get water more evenly distributed around the barrel... just a thought ;)
like in this picture www.hydrodaze.co.uk/Files/97685/Img/25/bubblebox-single-delivery-1-zoom.jpg
Keep up the great work you do man.
Cheers from sweden
Hi Henriik & thanks for that.. Might try it in the barrels once the ginger is pulled.. Not sure if they will be remade the same way yet but if they do I'll try the hoop..
Cheers & have a great one..
Rob, does the ginger need the depth to grow that is provided by these buckets
hey Rob have you ever used buckets for your build
Not with the aquaponics but I did run a Dutch bucket style system about 20 years ago in our old hydroponic system.
Cheers.
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U should put water spinach in them..
That might happen yet Ryan.. Popped a few beetroot in them as a quick crop for the time being..
Cheers..
When do you use flood and drain as opposed to when do you use the dutch bucket method?
It all depends on your preferred method. I haven't tried the bucket grow method in any systems as of yet but would like to do so down the line for larger fruiting plants like tomatoes & cucumbers.
any update on the ginger?
Ariel Rubio Posted a bit of a look at it in the latest update clip if you're interested in having a look.
ua-cam.com/video/Mi_loHY6Qfs/v-deo.html The ginger is at about 17:30 if that helps.
Hope to be harvesting at least one of the barrels this week if all goes well & will be posting a clip once it's done.
Cheers & have a great one Ariel.
Ha where did you get your yellow brums
Tony currey Hi Tony. Was lucky enough to pick them up online from Gumtree if that helps. I know they're sometimes listed on Craigslist & other sites at times.
Cheers mate.
Follow up on this video, please thank you
I showed a few looks at this in various walk around clips Samantha. It did work well as long as I had the water delivered right to the base of the plant.👍