Don't Buy Bato Buckets Till You See This!
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- Опубліковано 6 вер 2024
- Hoocho releases his latest 3D printable design. A 3D Printable BATO Bucket Fitting to adapt any bucket into a BATO Bucket
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I couldn't justify the computer and 3D printer set costs of $500+- so I went to the hardware store and purchased 1/2 PVC elbows & 1/2 pipe. My total cost was 60¢ for 2 elbows & 2" of Pipe. Add the cost of Used buckets I get with Dog Food & Cat Litter and my DIY Bato buckets cost less than $1.
i made similar with off the shelf pvc pieces, pvc bulk head fitting and long sweep elbow and small pieces of straight pvc in the connect to the bulkhead fitting
Very impressed, a seeming simple idea that hadn't been done yet. But it must have taken quite a bit of work to design a 3d print of a curved tube with internal supports that break off so easily, a thread and stop in the middle, and a nut that fits perfectly. Excellent!
Thank you mate. Fusion is quite intuitive, the pipe making tool is pretty amazing when paired with a sketched spline.
This was my first time using it. I’m keen to do some more intricate designs.
Though I find the simpler the idea, the better.
@@Hoocho For what it's worth I've been able to print them with no supports for the internals. Only tree supports on the exterior
Get Plastics that are UV stabilized, if you don't they won't last a year outside.
If you don't know if it is UV stabilized your best bet is to get the darkest color Plastics possible to stop the light getting into the plastic.
Just wanting to add on to this, PETG is the most UV resistant of the commonly used consumer filaments, and has a high enough melting point that you won't be dealing with warping in most environments that won't cook your plants.
I gotta give it to you hooch, you legit saved me from buying them overpriced as helllll, been watching you for a while now and all I can say is I copy ALL of your designs, I even have the same greenhouse 😂 QLD weather is smashing my plants at the moment the heat is insane how are you coping with it? Your plants just look insanely healthy
I’m trying to stay out of the midday sun. Using the time to design and edit haha.
Plants seem to love it, though I have a big gum tree that blocks the sun from 1pm til 2:30 on my greenhouse in summer.
Which was a happy mistake.
🤣
You can fix the irrigation line to the return pipe or the ground and use longer microtubing with stakes at the end. No need to fix it to the buckets. It's nice because you can move the buckets around easily.
you can use normal irrigation angle x2 with a grommet costs even less and works just as good...
Bato buckets are superior and worth every penny. They're not even expensive at $4.65 each with elbows. It would be crazy to use anything else.
That's if you're in America. In Canada, I can't get them for less than $35, which is ridiculous.
first question would be how long can these buckets last in the sun, i'd venture a guess within a year before they become brittle.
Is there any worry about leaching coming from the printables?
If the printed parts are PLA or nylon filament without additives, they are safe and free of plasticizers and are technically food safe (though you wouldn’t want to eat from 3d printed stuff due to the nooks and crannies). As for the plastic buckets, yeah - you’d really need to vet the sources and ensure they’re made from stable plastics (particularly UV stable so they last a few years at least).
I would probably remove all the handles, and depending on how they were attached, design a 3d print that clips in where the handle was, and integrate a hose clip into it. Would 3d print pretty fast.
You could even rotate them 90° and run it at the back of the bucket and run drip lines from there if that suits better for different setups.
Great simple design Hooch, love your work. I may even go grab those same buckets and try them out 👍🏻
I should have scrolled down before posting : /
@@dalewhite2253 haha, glad someone had a similar idea at least 👍🏻
Thats funny I just finished designing somthing similar for round buckets. Im printing out 8 for testing.
So for those of us that don't 3D print is there an off the shelf option for the over flow setup
Gotta love Hoocho"s
Very cool, I got a big hydroponic setup from a bloke off gumtree and he made bato buckets from the icecream containers that boost juice use. Not sure where he got the fitting from though, it's a 12mm elbow with some weird grommet.
Cheers keep up the great work
One more benefit: You can use any pipe diameter for the return pipe. Bato buckets are fixed to 50mm.
Have you found any of the perlite running off to reservoir or blocking pipe during the draining phase? No need for filter?
There are posts by people complaining their bato buckets are losing perlite. TOld to use a bag or filter of some sort in the bucket to filter it out.
in france bato bucket are at 3.6 euros each
That’s fantastic!!! I’d love to be able to have a system just like that!! Would have saved me a lot of $$$ on my DIY DWC attempts although they definitely worked well for sweet peppers, the tomatoes didn’t like them as much. It’s easy to see your tomatoes love that environment!! Love your channel. On the lookout for a place to utilize a 3D printer in Canada. 🥰❤️🇨🇦
I ran a very similar system for rainwater collection. Can't you just use standard PVC connections?
Neat, although some pvc elbows and a grommet does the same job
what filament do you use, PETG or foodsafe PLA ?
Food safe filament doesn’t exactly exist. At least from my research. The problem with 3d printing and food safe are the ridges from the nature of printing layers. I’d be concerned with leaching. Someone correct me - I’m been researching this. Would love to be able to print food safe plastics.
I have ginger growing in the same Big W bucket with the maze moisture sensing auto feeders!
Well it must be nice not to ever get snow haha
Hello Hoocho, have a look at "conical slicing". You can print this entirely without supports using this technique. CNC Kitchen did a video on it, like 8 days ago.
Cool video, and I will build this way so I can customize the system. But I just check Bato bucket prices in the US and it's $4.65/bucket.
Awesome
Maybe try designing and printing a clip for the lip of the bucket that can hold the irrigation line? I don't know if that is feasible as I don't 3d print.
Love it, surprised you didn't also print a jig to get the hole in the exact same spot each time though
Excellent Work! Thank you for sharing this with us. You always take something good and expensive and show us how we can do it just as good and cheaper. Excellent!
The 3D printer you have listed; would you buy it again or a bigger model? The model listed is a USA one, what would you recommend for in Australia? I won't hold you to a brand, etc. It is new territory for me and I don't want to buy a basic model to becoming frustrated in 2-3 months that I needed something larger.
Ice cream bucket is kinda cheap too.
Awesome build mate. I think this can help a lot of people👌
How does this compare in pricing to electrical conduit and 2x 90's?
Cheeky BIG DOG!! Posting at midnight! Keep pumping out them videos cobba!
Great idea thankyou. Just a thought if you made the internal tube shorter you wouldn't have as much depth in the 'sump'
Well done, Sir. Can't wait for the results to make the same in Spring (Europe). Take care!
How inpatient to use food safe buckets .I think you used Bunnings green buckets at one time are they ok . I like your UA-cam help , cheers
You could continue the 3D print theme and print some washers with PLAFlex or similar :)
Great system, thanks for sharing! Do you have any concerns for micro plastics leaching from buckets that are non food grade plastics and being absorbed by the plants?
I am curious, does the material that the bucket is made out of make a difference? I know there are specific plastics that containers that are made to hold potable water are made with but is that necessary with this system? Is the 'risk' of microplastics considerable?
@HOOCHO sorry to ask here on this video, not sure a better way to reach out. I value your insights and knowledge, so I’m asking your opinion on a product called GARDYN 3 a beginner type hydro system with lots of bells and whistles. Being a total noob to this can you please give a look at it and let me know what you think. Some things I wondering is if you get locked into using there products or if it can be readily used with other rock wool and plant food. And help from yourself or others would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. Cheers
I had a look, you’re better off building your own if you are up for it, put it outdoors if you have the space.
A good NFT will be cheaper and easier.
@@Hoocho thanks Hoocho, I’m just trying to get up and running. Here in Oregon USA outside isn’t a option yet. But thank you, I’ll give a build a go. Cheers
Love your videos! I started my own hydroponic system thanks to your videos !
Really cool idea but I could see that clogging has that been an issue
Just starting to find out the wonderful world of hydroponics. Just one question: would it not be easier to let the pipes zigzag down so you only need one water entrance, then let the water pass all the pipes in the way down going from left to right then falling down to the next level where it will go from right to left etc.
Cat litter buckets are free where I'm at in the USA. I'm sure this will work with them too
Excellent design hooch. I'm going to have to grab these for my system too
Congrats mate! Keep turning the hydroponic game upside down!
Great idea! I've been having an issue with the modular drain and fill system with finding a good barbed fitting that wouldn't leak. This snorkel concept would work perfectly, I would just need to resize/shape the end to an appropriate-sized barbed end.
19mm with a barb socket and a gromet, any hydro shop or ebay has them cheap as
This man's innovative and downright awesome@ I love the contentm the best part is your time lapses. Love the background music, but a suggestion is to switch it
Thank you!
I suppose you could do this quite easily with a grommet and black irrigation pipe too. Would probably cost more than a dollar though. And grommets are a bit fiddly.
I tried a few of these fitttings and had problems with the nut loosening after sun exposure. I think it is best to install them the opposite way as depicted in the video, with the nut on the outside. It doesn't look as clean, but the nut can be retighened as needed.
I was thinking some kind of clip would be better than the nut. Easier to print, and simple installation.
Mate you can order bato buckets with the fittings for like $2 each from China but cool work though
Great system, as you mentioned ideal for productivity and small spaces.
Do you have trouble with the ph raising as i haven't seen you flush the perlite before using?
And the perlite being sucked out back too the res once the syphon runs from the buckets. maybe print up some little cages too fit on the end thats in the bucket, I used slotted PVC tubing and balls like in your chop and flip system but different, Before this I had my balls being sucked up the pipeline and coursing blockages.
Cheers Craig 🥃⛏️
wow loved this! I'm going to go home and build this
You're a legend mate. That's so cheap. Too bad I don't have a printer. Something like this should have been made and on the market years ago
So are the buckets food safe?
A fantastic idea and setup.
awesome simple idea, thank you for sharing !
Looking at building this system in the next week or so. How are your tomatoes going?
you could use pvc and a bulk head no need to 3d print
Are the buckets you used food grade or it’s okay to use regular buckets?
Mitch, will you run the nutrient on 24/7 or can you run it 30minutes on - 3o min off on a timer for the pump
Awesome you could probably use it on any container 👍✌️
I have a question. Why the syphon "U" shaped pipe? I have it in my buckets, but I need to modify them and realize, that it add nothing compare to L shaped pipe. Or is there something I am missing?
@hoocho very cool, I love you’re content. Why doesn’t the tube siphon the bucket dry when it turns off?
Been watching all your videos now, think this is what im going for this summer!
Thanks for all your inspiration and for sharing all this!
Think i have to dig out my old 3D printer again, what filament have you used, PLA?
Have you noticed any problems with UV or other problems with the prints beeing out under the sun for a longer period, is the prints you did a year ago still holding up?
Please advise, I have a problem with perlite. When the solution makes a full turn through the buckets to the tank, the ph rises to 7.5, and at the beginning it was 5.5. The perlite was washed at the beginning and has been used for 15 days.
Great budget friendly ideas, thanks for sharing. Also, curious about the burnt wood topped livestock containers. Can't seem to find a video on those.
Hooch replied below with "The plants in the black bucket in this video are kratky tomatoes for an upcoming video."
He did a video for his studio setup. Just used a weed burner and ran over the top of plywood
The price of the bucket is very high in Saudi Arabia, equivalent to 1.4 dollars
Very nice, the bato buckets are so expensive. I'm using 5 gallon buckets with paint strainer bags for my bato bucket system. I'm using a bathtub for the res and a sheet of plywood over the top with holes to accommodate the 5 gallon buckets. Just using a hole about an inch and a half up from the bottom to allow return to the res. Also, using an air stone in the res. Do you think that will work ok?
They're really not expensive. These likely cost more. Bato buckets are cheap and perfect.
Thoughts on using lids for these buckets? would that reduce moisture lost to evaporation? Could drill a similar sized hole in the top.
why not cut pipe in half rather than drill holes?
Gidday! And Thanks AND Respect from Canada...eh!
Couldn't you also just get some pipe, flex it into shape and seal it with silicon? :D
It will leak. Bulkhead style fittings are far more reliable.
1 inch pvc pipe and some elbows will do until 3d printing is easier to access
Are you using any type of paint strainer on the end of the pipe to keep the perlite from getting sucked through?
Great stuff Hoocho 🙌🏻
you could print a clip that holds the feeder hose on to a side?
Chibaba ichi 🎉I can't wait
What model of 3D printer do you suggest? I’d like to stay under $500US if possible.
Hey man, I never saw any updates on your fogponics video, and was wondering what kind of success you found from it opposed to a traditional mister/sprayer system. Didn't know where else to put this other then one of your newer videos, but I would love to hear what you've come up with.
Can pvc pipe be used as well for the buckets?
Hi mate, what about BPA or other chem's leaching into your grow system?
I wish he would do a video on his most successful hydroponics systems.
What material is used to print those pipes you're using? I never have seen those in real life.
How do you make sure that the perlite is not getting in the water system in this setup?
These printers look very useful, may i ask which kind you're using there? Many thanks
Great for us Americans!
will there be future videos of the final results of the grown tomatoes and the progress of the printable BATO bucket of how it went, any issues, and is this a good method or any changes.
Hi, thanks a lot for this video, can you share the 3d files for printer. Best
What about a video of perlite vs scoria bato buckets...
What cycle do you run your pump on for this system or is it running all the time?
Great vid Hooch, are the Big W buckets UV rated?
Why is 3d printing involved? I think he's coco for Coco puffs
Question: how would this method compare to the Kratky method of just letting them sit in a bucket?
Tomatoes require a lot more water than 12L
The plants in the black bucket in this video are kratky tomatoes for an upcoming video.
Those buckets are 65L
@@Hoocho makes sense! So, for stuff like lettuce or other greens that you grow and then harvest pretty quickly, you can get away with lower volumes of water.
@@toastrecon lettuce take 3-6 litres per plant.
I’ll link kratkys papers for you to have a read.
www.ctahr.hawaii.edu/hawaii/downloads/three_non-circulating_hydroponic_methods_for_growing_lettuce.pdf
This will work for Kratky, just use all the holes in the buckets to connect them all together with 12mm tubing, then connect those buckets to a Control bucket with float valve. Feed you res into the control bucket.. The water level will remain the same in all buckets
Awesome idea! I'm curious however...How are you able to get the buckets on the ground and still feed the return nutes into a reservoir and hold at any decent level? Is your res buried, or just sitting significantly lower allowing you to enter the return nutes high enough to keep a decent amount of solution? I'd love to be able to do something like that in my grow room, but without having to put my buckets on a higher level if I can help it, or do something similar to that. The only issue is that since my res would sit at the same level, the piping would literally enter at ground level, so I'd never be able to keep a decent level of solution?
My res is buried
@Hoocho - Stellar...
There's a way to do it with the res higher than the buckets
Any chance this will work for a round bucket?
Hey Hoocho... do you sell your own parts... we have lots of land but it is all sand near coast in South Ozz
This is awesome!