Wow. I am a nail artist who uses pigment in my acrylic applications and you would not believe how much the beauty supply store charges for what just one stick of those beautiful pigments ground up and pre-packaged costs. (5-7$ per color) Thank you so much for this video!! I'm gonna go do a few cart-wheels now.
Just throwing this out there, but there is a difference between the quality of pastel sticks. There are cheap kinds (this video) and there are expensive kinds. The expensive kinds have higher quality pigment and less binders, and are more similar to the pigment powder.
Dude your wash video changed the way I paint. I don't buy washes when I can make what I want. I'm going to try and find those pastels I need powders and haven't bought any yet. Thank you
Thank you so much for posting this video. I only needed a small amount of red yellow and blue pigment. I did a search and found your video. I bought the chalk pastels set like yours at Michaels and with the Michaels 40% off coupon it came to $6.42!
@LezardValeth Here are some methods. You can mix with other paint. Example: mix orange pigments with brown paint to make a dirty rusty effect. You can mix with rubbing alcohol to make a type of wash. It will leave an ultra matte coating of pigment behind. You can apply directly with a brush or fine sponge brush to make dirty streaks. If you do this you can then apply alcohol over it to help bond to the underlying paint. The last one is my favorite, but the second is better for large areas.
Wrong - it is not "just pigments". Each stick contains binders and carriers just as paints, crayons, and other forms of coloring agents. But it does work - just not as brilliant/bright/strong as buying the powders which ARE pure pigment.
I was telling my wife about this video. She says ‘I have pigment powders in my eye makeup pallet that I never use’. My wife buys expensive makeup made with all natural pigments. I am going to use your idea for the colors she uses and hers for the ones she don’t. Thanks for video!!
Brilliant idea!! I shall use this when doing dry stencil embossing. Have been using eyeshaddow!!! But already have these pigment sticks so will try this!! thanks very much!!!
@DutchieAngel I use a mortar and pestle. I have seen some people use sand paper, but that takes too long for me. You can get a mortar and pestle set pretty cheaply. Just get a ceramic one, stone is not necessary. You can probably get them cheapest online, but if you have to have one now, I'd check your local super market, or kitchen supply shop, like William Sonoma, Sur la Table, or a wholesaler if you have one nearby. Happy hunting
Here's a good tip. Use baby food containers as pots. They work great for custom washes and storing pigments or flock or just about anything you may want.
Where do you get those little containers with the black top you store your powders in? They look like they have a little built in scoop on the inside of the cover, very cool! And thanks for the video.
Thanks for making this tutorial.....pigments are actually very expensive.... I got water soluble pastels....can I use them in Mix Media projects with water???and how would I make metallic or pearl pigments....please help 🙏🏻☺️
Hi from the U.K. ... I loved this great idea!! I love dry embossing with lightbox and stencils, and just never thought of doing this!! I already have the sticks but never occured to me to try this!!! Thanks for such a brilliant idea!! (I just subscribed to UA-cam so as to be able to leave this comment!!)
Hi Austin, big fan of your tutorials here. I'm a vault member and up to date on all your videos. I would just like to thank you for the work you put in teaching and to give you some feedback. In the 2 months since I discovered B4H I've learned so many new techniques my painting has advanced more than in the previous year. Now I have never used pigments before, and i now have 36 colors of them thanks to you. Could you make a video on advanced pigment uses?
I am trying to find some this stuff here in sweden but im a bit confused about wich kind to get.. There is oil-pastells (guess this isnt it..) soft-pastells (I guess that this is it) and then there is dry-pastells.. wich of the later two is best to use?
This is a great idea and have done the same. So much cheaper than spending $7 for 1 MIG pigment! Applying the pigment to a model that will be sitting on a shelf or desk is no problem but to weather miniature war gaming figures where they will be touched what is the best way to seal them on the model? Great video! Thanks!
@Ydouneed2nomyname If the price isn't hugely different, I'd just go with the higher grade ones (that's just me though). I image that the student grade ones aren't terrible. If there is s small pack of them try them out and see if they are usable.
@DutchieAngel Ha ha! That's awesome. I'll have to remember that. If you end up using the pigments, I'd love to see the results. Post a reply video or a link to some pictures here in the comments.
I had casually eyed up using the dry pigment process in the past, but the price point and remoteness of suppliers have been off putting to me thus far. However, with this, I should be able to work some trial runs into a number of minis I had intended to use as generic test runs anyway.
Can you help me. True novice, I need to know how to use the paint wheel and be able to mix pigments to produce a wide range of paint colors. Don't know where to start. Any help in the right direct would help very much. Thank you.
I've never tried, but that doesn't mean you can't. Give it a shot on a test miniature if you have one, or maybe just an extra part from a multi-part kit.
The pigment density from weathering powders such as the forgeworld and MIG line is much much denser than that in an artist's chalk pastelle. That's not necessarily a bad thing for the pastelles though, because a lot of the time I have found them to be much easier to blend without being overpowering. That's also one of the reasons why the weathering powders are a lot more expensive, though it's also marked up to make a profit :)
could I use this pigment from the pastels to make egg yolk paint? I want to make a Byzantine icon for my history class but I'm too poor for real pigments.
I'm not sure what you mean. If you mean can you make it FROM your makeup, I'm not sure as there are all kinds of things in makeup that might not work so well for miniatures like moisturizers and the like. If you mean can you use this powder AS makeup, I would not suggest it. These pastels are not designed for putting on your skin so I cannot advise it as I have no idea if any of the ingredients are irritants or might cause clogged pores.
Have I offended you? This seems like an unduly harsh comment with no context in reference to a video that has virtually no chance of being controversial. I grind up some pastels to use in weathering models. Unless you are a pigment powder producer... So what did you mean by this comment? I am a reasonable person. I will listen.
Brilliant. I reckon this is what I have been looking for, more or less. I just saw that an artist used this super fine white powder dust, and wondered what it would be called. Any idea of an easy way to grind them down?
@Brush4Hire guess what lol, i wasnt realy patient, so I used a tea strainer and it worked great :P Thanks for your vid and info though, never thought of this :)
drummerben04 I've thought about this as well, but I'm thinking some of the grit from the paper would get into the pigment and it might not matter to you, I'm looking to make my own encaustic paint and I wouldn't want anything to get into the paint. Did you try?
I don't think that would work very well. You are looking for soft pastels, not oils. I don't image oils would grind up too well. I figure they would clump a lot.
YES.... You can use these to make oil paints... (look up on UA-cam) I can't remember the name of the oil to use... You can use the same pigment powders to make Watercolor pots too... Using Gum Aribic
yes, but its not as good, pigments like this also work as a paint if you add PVA to it, a little PVA a lump of this dust and water goes a long way, fantastic for basing, but dont try and paint the model itself with it, too thick.
ue pigments comes only from the earth and come in only red blue and green. thus the primary colors on the color wheel. everything else you see on the market is a mica powder and is ususally sparkly and is manb made. although they still call it pigment powder, but it is not. and if you are trying to mix paint color from mica powder you swill ususally be disappointed and get very light colored pastel looking colors. takes a lot to make it a more primary color. i wish people would understand this. its so confusing the way it is.
If it doesn't have a colourfast marker on the label, it is not "finest pigment" and will most certainly fade over time. If you want colours to last, spend a little extra on colourfast pigments.
Your video is great, I'm also getting into pastels instead of the expensive brand name pigments. Using pastels for weathering effects has been around for many years. Unfortunately, the "ready made" fad has taken a lot of the modelers ability to "create" with their own imaginations for the sake of the "hurry up and get through with it" attitude. Good video pal....By the way, the kid that made the obscene hate comment needs to grow up, get a job, read the Bible, and realize that there is only one Master. And it ain't that guy ;-)
Wow. I am a nail artist who uses pigment in my acrylic applications and you would not believe how much the beauty supply store charges for what just one stick of those beautiful pigments ground up and pre-packaged costs. (5-7$ per color) Thank you so much for this video!! I'm gonna go do a few cart-wheels now.
This is a great idea! I just take my blade and scrape of some powder of the stick whenever i need a color lol but this works too
You have no idea how glad I am to hear it when people tell me that I have influenced the way they paint. I'm glad I could help. Thanks for watching.
Just throwing this out there, but there is a difference between the quality of pastel sticks. There are cheap kinds (this video) and there are expensive kinds. The expensive kinds have higher quality pigment and less binders, and are more similar to the pigment powder.
If you guys try other brands post it in the comments. I'd love to see what other fun stuff you guys find out there.
Awesome, I have so many pastels, I son't have to buy any pigments for a long time. Thank you so much for sharing.
happiness always
Dude your wash video changed the way I paint. I don't buy washes when I can make what I want. I'm going to try and find those pastels I need powders and haven't bought any yet. Thank you
Thank you so much for posting this video. I only needed a small amount of red yellow and blue pigment. I did a search and found your video. I bought the chalk pastels set like yours at Michaels and with the Michaels 40% off coupon it came to $6.42!
@LezardValeth Here are some methods.
You can mix with other paint. Example: mix orange pigments with brown paint to make a dirty rusty effect.
You can mix with rubbing alcohol to make a type of wash. It will leave an ultra matte coating of pigment behind.
You can apply directly with a brush or fine sponge brush to make dirty streaks. If you do this you can then apply alcohol over it to help bond to the underlying paint.
The last one is my favorite, but the second is better for large areas.
@MrInquizarus Go with the soft pastels. Those are what I use and I can vouch for those. Others may be good, but I haven't tried them yet.
Wrong - it is not "just pigments". Each stick contains binders and carriers just as paints, crayons, and other forms of coloring agents. But it does work - just not as brilliant/bright/strong as buying the powders which ARE pure pigment.
I was telling my wife about this video. She says ‘I have pigment powders in my eye makeup pallet that I never use’. My wife buys expensive makeup made with all natural pigments. I am going to use your idea for the colors she uses and hers for the ones she don’t. Thanks for video!!
Brilliant idea!! I shall use this when doing dry stencil embossing. Have been using eyeshaddow!!! But already have these pigment sticks so will try this!! thanks very much!!!
I have done this and it's AWESOME! Thank you so much!
I use the pastels in my resin. Works wonders.
@DutchieAngel I use a mortar and pestle. I have seen some people use sand paper, but that takes too long for me. You can get a mortar and pestle set pretty cheaply. Just get a ceramic one, stone is not necessary. You can probably get them cheapest online, but if you have to have one now, I'd check your local super market, or kitchen supply shop, like William Sonoma, Sur la Table, or a wholesaler if you have one nearby.
Happy hunting
Here's a good tip. Use baby food containers as pots. They work great for custom washes and storing pigments or flock or just about anything you may want.
@TheRocketSilo That is true, but for the purposes of mini painting, it is going to perform identically. And for cost you can't beat it.
I'm curious how much pigment is needed to tint something like soap. Also, would you say that dry pastels have more pigment in them than oil pastels?
Where do you get those little containers with the black top you store your powders in? They look like they have a little built in scoop on the inside of the cover, very cool! And thanks for the video.
Thanks for making this tutorial.....pigments are actually very expensive.... I got water soluble pastels....can I use them in Mix Media projects with water???and how would I make metallic or pearl pigments....please help 🙏🏻☺️
So... ground up chalk. Interesting wish i could see the pigment on a finished item, wonder how they bright the colors are. Thanks!
@heyustabbedme No, you can do weathering on miniatures with this.
This is a great idea! Do you know if they would work with resin? Thanks!
Hi from the U.K. ... I loved this great idea!! I love dry embossing with lightbox and stencils, and just never thought of doing this!! I already have the sticks but never occured to me to try this!!! Thanks for such a brilliant idea!! (I just subscribed to UA-cam so as to be able to leave this comment!!)
Hi Austin, big fan of your tutorials here. I'm a vault member and up to date on all your videos. I would just like to thank you for the work you put in teaching and to give you some feedback. In the 2 months since I discovered B4H I've learned so many new techniques my painting has advanced more than in the previous year. Now I have never used pigments before, and i now have 36 colors of them thanks to you. Could you make a video on advanced pigment uses?
How would you apply pigment powders on miniatures? Do you mix them with water? Other paint? Apply directly?
I am trying to find some this stuff here in sweden but im a bit confused about wich kind to get..
There is oil-pastells (guess this isnt it..) soft-pastells (I guess that this is it) and then there is dry-pastells.. wich of the later two is best to use?
How are the pigments as actual paints? Have you tried mixing them up and painting minis with them?
Very cool!
This is a great idea and have done the same. So much cheaper than spending $7 for 1 MIG pigment!
Applying the pigment to a model that will be sitting on a shelf or desk is no problem but to weather miniature war gaming figures where they will be touched what is the best way to seal them on the model?
Great video! Thanks!
@Ydouneed2nomyname If the price isn't hugely different, I'd just go with the higher grade ones (that's just me though). I image that the student grade ones aren't terrible. If there is s small pack of them try them out and see if they are usable.
You just saved me a ton of money and time I have been searching for none mica powder problem solved time to make water colors.
@Brush4Hire Yep , I use them as well, they work
@DutchieAngel Ha ha! That's awesome. I'll have to remember that. If you end up using the pigments, I'd love to see the results. Post a reply video or a link to some pictures here in the comments.
Can these pigments be used in making milk paint. it seems like a great idea.
Can it be used as alternative for resin pigment?
Can you use these pigments to make these into watercolors?
Very clever mate i never even thought about this, you really know your stuff! any more clever ideas please share :)
@TheFire933 Will do. Thanks for watching.
Where do you get the containers with the black top?
Great video. I am on a budget so this really helps alot. Can you should do a video showing how these pigments work on a model?
if you dont add pigment and just use pastle what is it then?
I had casually eyed up using the dry pigment process in the past, but the price point and remoteness of suppliers have been off putting to me thus far. However, with this, I should be able to work some trial runs into a number of minis I had intended to use as generic test runs anyway.
What about tempera paint powders?
Can you help me. True novice, I need to know how to use the paint wheel and be able to mix pigments to produce a wide range of paint colors. Don't know where to start. Any help in the right direct would help very much. Thank you.
I've never tried, but that doesn't mean you can't. Give it a shot on a test miniature if you have one, or maybe just an extra part from a multi-part kit.
Do they work in resin. And what we should do for making sparkly pearly effect.
Great helpful video . Thank you
I ground them with a Mortar and pestle.
The pigment density from weathering powders such as the forgeworld and MIG line is much much denser than that in an artist's chalk pastelle. That's not necessarily a bad thing for the pastelles though, because a lot of the time I have found them to be much easier to blend without being overpowering.
That's also one of the reasons why the weathering powders are a lot more expensive, though it's also marked up to make a profit :)
could I use this pigment from the pastels to make egg yolk paint? I want to make a Byzantine icon for my history class but I'm too poor for real pigments.
can you use these pigments for cosmetic uses such as nails?
Beautiful video! Thank you for this tutorial! :-)
ask in your local art supply store mine sells individual colours in a lot more shades/colours than you get in a cheap box from THE WORKS for instane
Could you add this to epoxy Resin
I guess this could work for making oil paint as well.
Does the set label the colors
can u mix them and make it into a lipstick
I'm not sure what you mean. If you mean can you make it FROM your makeup, I'm not sure as there are all kinds of things in makeup that might not work so well for miniatures like moisturizers and the like. If you mean can you use this powder AS makeup, I would not suggest it. These pastels are not designed for putting on your skin so I cannot advise it as I have no idea if any of the ingredients are irritants or might cause clogged pores.
Have I offended you? This seems like an unduly harsh comment with no context in reference to a video that has virtually no chance of being controversial. I grind up some pastels to use in weathering models. Unless you are a pigment powder producer... So what did you mean by this comment? I am a reasonable person. I will listen.
Check out this site for color theory help (colormatters(dot)com). As far as mixing, I'm not sure what you mean. Are you asking about how to mix paint?
How do you grind them?
Brilliant. I reckon this is what I have been looking for, more or less. I just saw that an artist used this super fine white powder dust, and wondered what it would be called. Any idea of an easy way to grind them down?
Mortar and pestle is the way I do it.
Brush4Hire Ahh, that sounds like a nice and clean way to do it. Thanks for the quick response. I will try and work something out
i keep it in bars and scrape only what i need with an xacto
Dont listen to the haters! I think this video is amazing!
what grinds it
Can I use this pigment in my soap
@Brush4Hire guess what lol, i wasnt realy patient, so I used a tea strainer and it worked great :P
Thanks for your vid and info though, never thought of this :)
will this work with resin
excellent
would crayons work?
You are my hero... js
What about using sandpaper instead of a razor blade?
drummerben04 I've thought about this as well, but I'm thinking some of the grit from the paper would get into the pigment and it might not matter to you, I'm looking to make my own encaustic paint and I wouldn't want anything to get into the paint. Did you try?
Shakedown St. Theoretically it sounds like it would work to grind it. But I also think it would leave a small layer of pigment powder caked on it.
@@bru1015
I agree 100%
@@taylorwininger-sieve8043
That is exactly what I was thinking
I use a metal nail file
good vid , I will say that the sticks are not pure pigments ,, they contain a wax-like binder.
Copper can do blue and green
can i use this method to make pigment for oil paint?
Yes
I don't think that would work very well. You are looking for soft pastels, not oils. I don't image oils would grind up too well. I figure they would clump a lot.
they do
Would these pigment powders work with milk paint?
I think it could. I'd just want to see how the powder reacts with varnish.
Had anyone tried making oil paint with this pigment powder?
YES....
You can use these to make oil paints...
(look up on UA-cam) I can't remember the name
of the oil to use... You can use the same pigment powders
to make Watercolor pots too... Using Gum Aribic
@@judichristopher4604 thank you so much ❤️
Go to Hobby Lobby, use thier 40% discount and pay $6 for 22 different colors. That is 22 for the price of 1.
Mortar and Pestle
can I use oil pastel?
yes, but its not as good, pigments like this also work as a paint if you add PVA to it, a little PVA a lump of this dust and water goes a long way, fantastic for basing, but dont try and paint the model itself with it, too thick.
ue pigments comes only from the earth and come in only red blue and green. thus the primary colors on the color wheel. everything else you see on the market is a mica powder and is ususally sparkly and is manb made. although they still call it pigment powder, but it is not. and if you are trying to mix paint color from mica powder you swill ususally be disappointed and get very light colored pastel looking colors. takes a lot to make it a more primary color. i wish people would understand this. its so confusing the way it is.
really
Regular Pastel or oil pastels?
You want acrylic pastels
You need to wear a mask when you work or teach about powders! Lol
If it doesn't have a colourfast marker on the label, it is not "finest pigment" and will most certainly fade over time. If you want colours to last, spend a little extra on colourfast pigments.
Your video is great, I'm also getting into pastels instead of the expensive brand name pigments. Using pastels for weathering effects has been around for many years. Unfortunately, the "ready made" fad has taken a lot of the modelers ability to "create" with their own imaginations for the sake of the "hurry up and get through with it" attitude. Good video pal....By the way, the kid that made the obscene hate comment needs to grow up, get a job, read the Bible, and realize that there is only one Master. And it ain't that guy ;-)
Brass.
How do you grind them?