"Shield Boomerang sucks," they say.
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
- I don't want to hear anymore of that, lmao. Anyway, majority of this is from Hard Mode, which more or less forces you to learn how to use your other sub weapons and realize Saber and Buster aren't your only options. Still, it peeves me to this day that no matter how much I talk about tech, this misinformation about Shield Boomerang's usefulness is still being widespread throughout the community.
![Mega Man ZX ~ Model LX vs All Bosses [No Damage/Hard Mode]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/sjsXbiGEjME/mqdefault.jpg)
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Allow me to clear some things up, as a lot of folks seemed to have missed the point of this video by a mile:
-This is partly a joke video, if the title and game mode played (dark green color palette) didn't make that transparent enough.
-It's in no way trying to establish that the weapon is "better" than your obviously superior options. I never once stated this, and not sure why this is being brought up. The general consensus is that the weapon is useless, which regardless of better options, is objectively false. "Useless" implies it can't be utilized at all regardless of your skill level, which isn't true. If you've seen my content prior to this video and my guide content, you'd know I do not play like this or encourage it on normal mode, nor even use boomerang outside of Orbit Shield (Z3) and Damage Stacking. The video's simply showing it's a usable option.
-95% of these clips are on hard mode. I really don't need to explain this one, but I can't stress it enough since it's completely disregarded in the responses I see here.
This is actually my favourite weapon for the series so I did not understand the hate
How to use Orbit shield with Elements other than Ice?
A weapon is only as effective as its wielder. I was thoroughly entertained. lol
@@mohdadeeb1829 you dont need ice to use the orbit sheild but if you are referring to how he makes it orbit without the ex move you just avoid touching it after you've thrown it
Your case would be stronger if you didn't use the recoil rod (which is amazing) as much ::p But yeah it's usable
*The Rising of the Shield Zero.*
Bruh
Underrated comment.
SharinganSakura Shield Zero makes me rise
Take your like and get out.
Zero: I am afraid of getting hurt so I max my defense stat.
Remember people: The best offense is a strong defense
it's actually the other way around, but in this case you're right.
Or a flying, spinning blade of death. Whatever works.
@@andrellnogueira Flying, Spinning Blade of Death is just another word for Defense.
Or so they say
The loyalest person is Loyalzx
Alternate title: Zero tryin' to run from evil shield boomerang that destroys innocent reploids on its path
I like this.
I don't see any destroyed innocents in this video.
@@DiogoJ1
I see...
Your mom.
@@ig100magnaguard O O F
@@TempDevil *badass emoji*
“You’re a reploid that was created so long ago, but you have such incredible abilities”
Reploid? He's even more ancient than that. He's a Wily Number!
such incredible abilities an he still runs on windows 95 hes a legend
@@ultraspinalki11 wasn't the zero in the zero games confirmed to be a fake? With omega being the original?
@@ultraspinalki11 just like X, Zero was made after the tech learned from that alien synthetic, I forget his name, so I think he counts as a reploid as well.
@@nearlyrighteouslad3213 I have a vague memory of some official Capcom art designating Zero as Wily N# 0 or such. Would need to look it up on the wikia maybe.
That charged recoil rod to deflect Tretista’s iron pipe back at him was lowkey hype ngl
I didn’t know such things were possible, i swear MMZ3 is amazing.
Yh I know
@@uhhhleagueofhashinshin2348 too short? mmz3 is the longest mmz game. none of the mainline 2d mega man games are very long to begin with, they all rely on replayability. and if you want harder games, try mm11 or mmx6 or mmzxa
@@uhhhleagueofhashinshin2348 you dont need charge rod to knock back the pipe btw. just hit the pipe and it will deflect.
@@uhhhleagueofhashinshin2348 You can clear the Devil May Cry games with minimal combo knowledge, but it is WAY more satisfying and fun styling at a higher level. The games are long enough to make it ideal to speedrun and replay over and over.
@@uhhhleagueofhashinshin2348 Funny you say that when Zero 3 is literally the longest Zero game, and probably the 3rd(?) longest platformer styled MegaMan games to finish.
And that’s not even accounting for its replayablity
Zero: *haha lol ima throw this shit right now*
Hahahah
Zero: haha shield boomerang go brrrr
Yes
Kienzan "Distructo Disc"-Krillin's signature move. ...
_Not anymore._
Copy X: Stop stunlocking me!
Zero: Back in the corner, you foul demon!
Awesome shield boomerang montage, also love how the bosses tried so hard to kill you and all you had to do was play jump rope by yourself
Underrated comment
This man out here no damaging with a shield boomerang. I don't think it sucks guys.
You have a lot better options against minions and bosses then this weapon though which is what makes it terrible.
It by itself makes it great.
Add the rest of the weapons in the game though, yeah...
@@MrXertiv Are you kidding? It’s one of the safest weapons in the game, not for the projectile deflect, but because you can throw it during bosses basically for free; it’s entirely non committal. Orbit Shield is an insane EX skill that has that same property but leads to optimal combos and has a stupid big hit box.
@@meathir4921 Same. Shield Boomerang is one of my favorite weapons because of that, and even without Orbit Shield Shield Boomerang itself does great damage.
I feel like kind of a noob realizing a lot of you guys know how to use this weapon, damn😂
@@crowns9966 lol, its never too late to learn bro
This game really allows for so much creativity. Never ceases to surprise what you can pull off
Its like watching someone taking on a whole gang with a yoyo and win.
Is that a yu gi oh reference
There is an old yugioh bit where suddenly everyone goes YOYO WAR
@@terachrome3817 We would have also accepted "Is that an Earthbound reference?"
Like, when the roof beneath them is as crumbly as a cookie?
I've always felt like the biggest problem with Shield Boomerang (unless you have its utilization down to an art form like as shown here) isn't that it's a bad weapon, but because the ranking system of these games demands the player be fast and efficient to get a high ranking, which is the exact opposite of the Shield Boomerang's methodically defensive combat style. In fact, if it weren't for the ranking system being tied into getting important items in some of the games, I'd say it's probably my favorite weapon because it's much more suited to how I enjoy playing games in general.
You can be plenty fast with the shield boomerang. You use it when it's appropriate, and you plan your charges ahead of time so they don't slow you down.
@@MisterFanwank I'm sure, but that requires a lot of forethought, which isn't how I tend to play platformers. I'm much more of an in the moment kind of guy when it comes to those kinds of games. Unless it comes down to managing resources with knowledge of what I'll need later on in a stage.
Regardless of it being possible though, I don't feel like speed is what the Shield Boomerang is fundamentally designed to achieve. Making it a contradiction to how the game expects you to play to get your rank up.
Dr. Wily: I designed you with a buster more powerful than anything that idiot Dr. Light could come up with!
Zero: *looks at buster* ...how about a sword though?
Dr. Wily: A what?
Zero: Oh, I like this stick.
Dr. Wily: Wait, stop it.
Zero: Is that a shield? Yeah, I'll take that too.
Dr. Wily: *Wait, this isn't how you play the game.*
Zero: What if I also punched things really hard?
Also fuck i frames🤣🤣🤣
Also, this *pair of tonfas* , they look easy to use
And they were!
Also Zero:oh a pogo stick give me that *grabs the recoil rod*
Can you blame Zero tho? The guy could hardly aim it
That Foxtar kill was amazing on your Twitter post and it’s even better watching it again.
I see you around on a lot of Mega Man video
This is part of what makes the Zero series so great. There's so many different ways to dismantle the bosses based on playstyle and skill level. You can just keep on improving, and it's very satisfying to do. I really wish Capcom would mend their relationship with Inti, it's clear that had way more passion for the Mega Man/Rockman series than Capcom themselves. Just imagine X9 or ZX3 made by these guys.
Such a well written statement my friend and I agree.
wait capcom and inti fell out or something ? what happened?
@@icemaster523 I'm not entirely sure but I think it has something to do with Inti's involvement with Mighty No. 9. Even in the recent Zero/ZX collection, Inti wasn't invited back to work on it, nor did the Remastered Tracks for each game make it into the collection, which makes sense since Inti holds the rights to those and not Capcom. They also purged the Inti logos from the game openings, leaving the only sign that Inti even developed the original games in the credits.
Inti, likewise, hasn't really been doing anything for Capcom in a while. They've been making their own stuff like the Gunvolt series, Dragon Marked For Death, etc.
@@Crow_Rising oh yeah that makes sense, I've bought the zero collection but haven't booted it yet because I was emulating zero 3 at the time. It's a bit of shame but to be honest its fairly surprising that Inti creates worked with Capcom in the first place - they split off from the company so its surprising they then ended up working with them again :O . I haven't tried Gunvolt, is it as good as mmz?
@@icemaster523 I've only played through the first one, I've been working my way through the second one on occasion for a few days now. I wouldn't say it's as great as MMZ, but I do think it's worth checking out if you're into MMXlikes. I'd actually probably say that it's best not to go in expecting a "Zero 5" or "ZX3" so much as something doing it's own thing.
MMZ Normies: Nooo you can’t just use the shield boomerang on bosses!
Magnus Zero: *Ha ha, Shield Boomerang goes SPIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIN-*
Shield Boomerang go brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
SPEEN!
_SPEEEEEEEEEN_
SpeeEEeeeEEeeNNnnn
*haha shield boomerang go brrrrr*
Hard Mode, the mode that tells you that Shield Boomerang is your best friend in Z1,2,3
seriously, it was because this weapon is the only chargeable one (except Z3 because Recoil Rod is chargeable too in Hard mode)
A situation that force player to not relay on buster and saber. Myself too use Shield Boomerang a lot when I played Hardo Mode in Z1,2,3.
Besides, it should be noticed that Copy X can be stun locked with Boomerang Saber cancel in Z1, how is that not broken?
it is, but he unlocks himself from the loop after 6 or 7 slashes, not like it matters since you can just do it again, but at least they knew it was a thing
I used the Shield Boomerang a lot too in hard mode (sucked that it was removed in Z4)
Theres nothing more satisfying then waiting for it to come back to finish a combo
I must not be very attached to the community cause I’ve never heard that in my life. That thing is the elemental godsend.
You did the whole Kelverian fight in 3 shields!? I can't believe you kept that 2nd shield going as long as you did; that was sick!
"Shield boomerang sucks."
Captain America fans: disapproving nod.
@Nero Metal technically it's "shake my head", but I figured it be funnier if I said it this way.
**sings...**
🎵 When the legendary Zero throws his mighty shieeeld...🎵
🎵 All those who chose to oppose his shield must YIEEELD! 🎵
😆
This is actually a metaphor with the boomerang symbolizing all the death and destruction that Zero believes he causes and no matter how much he runs from it, it's always close behind him
It causes death and destruction to any bosses in the immediate area
For some reason this give me "when the teacher find 10 metaphors in your poem" vibes
10? Bro in my poem that mf find likes 25 metaphors that i didn't even know in my own poem
My God that Baby Elves Boss Fight was insane. Dodging every attack and keeping the shield spinning at the same time is insanely hard. Great job.
It is?
Brooooo, I NEVER thought of pogo'ing off the bosses 😭 I swear I pick something up off every video
I think the reason people don’t understand how awesome the Shield Boomerang is is that generally using the saber and buster (or rod) is just so much more fun and easier to understand. I know I got used to using saber and buster all the time and only using the rod when necessary. The funny thing is that I’ve spent lots of time playing with the boomerang at the base but never really made use of that in the stages. (Also, great montage as usual! The two methods for one cycle Pantheon Aces was definitely cool to see!)
Tha Foxtar finish reminds me of a certain space emperor getting what he deserves.
I can't unsee this now. Thanks, lol
@@MagnusZero I wanted to post you the approciate gif on twitter, but I couldn't find that very specific animation. ^^u
Anyways, I noticed that you used the ice-elemental chip against Copy-X. Excellent reference!
What reference?
@@AndrewBlechinger i'm guessing dragon ball z, when frieza accidentally cut himself in half with his death saucer?
@@AndrewBlechinger probably star wars viii when snoke was cut in half w/o even noticing
2:46
What's this?! DAMAGE?! What a *FRAUD*!
(j/k love you bud)
Damn, I'm getting exposed again :
Lmaooo
Is a weak point when hit the ball hands of the boss
2:46 My boy Magnus Zero with less than 32 life points? My oh my, 2021 is surely surprising.
We're secretly in 2020 pt.2, that's why ;)
@@MagnusZero *Darth Vader scream*
¡NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
@@martinquetzal5346 Lol!
That's impossible. I refuse to believe Magnus Zero took damage in one run
your videos help cement the fact that mega man zero 3 is one of the best action games of all time
Damn right
Zero: So I said, “Hold this for me” and they did!
“When Captain Zero throws his mighty shield”
"All that oppose his shield, must yield!"
Reposting the same comment, but what the heck. 😆
**sings...**
🎵 When the legendary Zero throws his mighty shieeeld...🎵
🎵 All those who chose to oppose his shield must YIEEELD! 🎵
😆
Mission Success. 20P
Clear Time. 0'58 20P
Enemy. 59. 15P
Damage. 0. 15P
Retry. 0. 15P
Elf. 0. 15P
-------------------------------------------
Total. 100P
Level. SSS+
Code Name Unstoppable
Ah, a healthy dose of Style to balance out my diet.
Also, that Crea & Prea kill was godlike.
That one stood out to me.
Honestly the only way to play Hard mode. For me it was Stage: Saber/Buster Boss:Recoil Rod/Shield Boomerang. It took me a while to find the trick of keeping the Shield Boomerang attacking rather than charge and throw and repeat
Auto charge?
@@jettlucashayes8508 nah it jumping before the shied goes back to you so it loops back again rinse and repeat till the boss is fine dust
Wily really outdid himself when he made Zero, just imagine if Bass had been around long enough to get a reploid body.
Wonder what happened to Bass, he didn't show up in 11, like, at all... Perhaps Proto-Zero was completed and our favorite fishboi got fed to Zero as a test...?
When i first saw the Shield Boomerang's charge attack way back when, i always felt like if enough practice was put in to movement, you can deal good amounts of damage just from it flying all over the place and you "guiding" it. Seeing this has not only proven that, but also way exceeded my expectations in what it can do. Excellent job :D This is such an inspiration for anyone who wants to make more use out of it
Can't believe Cutman's weapon has evolved so much over the years.
Shield boomerang is terrible
*Proceeds to beat all mega man zero 3 gentle judges as retaliation with said shield boomerang*
You never fail to impress Magnus, keep rocking on.
Is it bad I was expecting the "BOI" sound when Copy X got his ass sat down yet again?
Kinda funny how this all boils down to some old robot playing jump rope with his shield of all things but ya made even that look stylish. Good shit as always Magnus!
Captain America: “ *sniffle* That’s my boy...!”
You're making me love MMZ3 more after that Tretista iron pipe deflect. MMZ3 is the gift that keeps giving.
How Nostalgia hit me seeing someone playing this game after so many years
0:26 you can see anubis being rebuilt. "foreshadow," HMMMMMMM
This is a whole other level of flex
That shield is what got me through hard mode in Megaman Zero 2
Pretty awesome , Happy New year Magnus !
Thanks, same to you :)
The noise Flizard makes when he regrows his tail is hilarious yet unsettling. Poor bastard sounds like he's about to vomit.
been playing a bit lately and practicing my shield boomerang, its honestly the most fun weapon in the entire series
"Shield Boomerang is useless!" Shield Boomerang: **Is actually the most busted weapon in the game.**
You just need to know your way around it
I do not think it that good even then, but this guy has skills to dodge every attsck even with the clunky shield.
That and this guy plays very well, I could never master that weapon😔
Shield boomerang is shit if you can't use it, but broken when you master it.
Remember, this is on hard mode.
Boomerangs: The man's hunting weapon.
And here I was feeling so accomplished when I finished Z3 by the skin of my teeth and then I see this flashy monster.
You have changed my mind on the Boomerang
These are the most beautiful Skipping rope in the world!lol
Your crazy shield boomerang kills are the reason I subscribed to you. I'll never have the time to get this good at the game, but watching these sure is cathartic.
The non-fan megaman: Shield boomerang sucks a lot!.
Magnus Zero: Fine, then i prove that you all wrong.
You people amaze me! I've grown up with this series and adore it (mostly because of the atmosphere and looks) but when I sit down to play it it just feels so clumsy! Like I would need an additional thumb to do so or something. Even the legacy collection doesn't help. Like, movement is swift and I love traversal in general, but combat to me is just "sit still and whack the enemy when you get the chance". I have no idea hoe people can master tech, especially the rods. Mad respect!
""""Shield"""" boomerang
Great gameplay as always
It does block weak projectiles..
All weapons have a purpose, and this guy managed to show the Shield Boomerang's true power on the battlefield!
Kudos to your gaming skill too, it was soo damn godlike.
Shield Boomerang effectively turns Zero into a boss fight for bosses
240x160 scaled up to 1080p 60fps video. What a time to be alive.
This video takes up more storage space than every mega man rom combined. (I love me some mega man - please continue uploading ^_^)
I mean when you throw it and it circles around you it's technically a shield
I mean, it's technically protecting you from harm by killing everything around you, so I guess?
@@swordzanderson5352 mhn
@@swordzanderson5352 Vergil aproves this
Man I haven't touched this game in years, which was excellent all the way through, definitely a great random vid. This took a lot of time to do all around, thank you for your tireless dedication, skill used and time to create this display of gaming excellence. Loved this weapon and wished 4 had it 😢
Everybody: "This weapon sucks."
A literal fucking ninja: "Hold my sake."
0:22, I love how she jumped into the path of the Shield Boomerang as it cuts her in half, all the while Zero has his back turned to her.
The proof that Zero must be in Smash bros
Don't do that... don't give me hope.
Zero and Yuri Lowell are my dream-come-trues.
Now original Zero squared off against Captain America from MvC 3. Since he has memories of those fights, this checks out.
Hey, the Shield Boomerang IS terrible.
When I throw it, it's supposed to come back to me immediately, so what's with this "Killing shit casually while I try to avoid things" nonsense it's doing?
Hot damn have I been blind to this bad boy. I'm not terribly good at finding stuff in these kind of games so your videos have been helping me have a lot more fun! I definitely gotta start practicing with Shield Boomerang now, I always wanted to use it for something but originally couldn't see any use for it personally. Now I see that it shreds the non believers lol, many thanks
wait, it's POSSIBLE to recoil rod off of those attacks? WHOA
Shield Boomerang ain't as bad as I thought it was if you can do cool tech options like this with the EX skills.
i think this video has shown the shield boomerang to be better than juar "not as bad as i thought"
it all depends on the skill of the player
@@peacewalker3344 It really does. Although the weapon is a bit janky though
which makes it more impressive to see it being used effectively. the fact the game lets it spin around indefinitely around you as long as you time your jumps right is pretty darn useful
Boomerang: a weapon meant to return to its owner.
Zero: catch me if you can.
Did I just hear a slander against the best weapon in the entire series?
You show 'em how it's done.
This video made sheild boom one of my favorite weapons as far as stylish kills go absolutely amazing stuff
The charged atack looks like a rasenshuriken
Actually, it's the other way around. Zero 1 came out way before Naruto Shippuden, and that was when the Shield Boomerang was first introduced. But now that you mention it, I never realized Shield Boomerang is technically based off of a windmill shuriken.
@@ShintaTakama in zero 1 all four weapons are based on the four gaurdians so I guess that make sense for phantom.
@@ZNemerald Phantom kinda reminds me of the Shadow Armor from X6 somewhat.
YOU'RE NUTS! I feel like we haven't even come close to the boundaries of what this game can do.
who needs cyber elfs when you have your own shield boomerang house pet?
Idk why UA-cam recommended me you, but god damn I can’t stop watching! I am a happy fella
Mega Man Zero hard mode speedruns in a nutshell
Damn... I used to play this in high school. Now you make me wanna download an emulator & relive that experience again.
Zero is pretty much Breath of the Wild in Reploid form. Years after release and discoveries are still being made on how they play.
PS: Plz make a vid solely on Shield Boomerang and how someone as stupid as me can use it well. Lol
What do you expect? The GBA had some freaking gems on it. They really outdid themselves on this series though
@@GeoffDaCow Legit. Zero is far more polished than any other GBA series. Hell, it's even better than it's ZX sequels.
@@Timelesshero1711 I want to deny that because I love zx and zxa, but I cant
Who said that?! Lol i used to cheese with that boomerang. Real Zero heads knows what they're doing with that weapon.
I agree with you tho, this weapon maynot be superior to the others but you showcased why it's very efficient for many bosses. Good video!
Ah, so Krillin remembered to use his Destructo-
Wait, this isn't DBZ?
god damn I never would I thought the rods would combine so well with the shield, I would combine it with the buster but this video truly shows wonders.
cool video. you got my suscribe
Bro you be pulling off wild shit LOL
Just beat Zero 3 for the 3rd time days ago and I can't pull half the shit you be pulling. Much respect
Not to undersell his skill but he said himself that he has played this game since his childhood, he has had a lot of time to improve. He didn't start out as a badass.
Famous Zero quotes - "On your left", "I could do this all day!", "Avengers, assemble!"
*reads title* Ahaha, tell that to Orbit Shield, arguably low-key one of the most busted EX Skills in the game for bosses.
For sure
DUDE!!! Ive said it before, I'll say it again... you are my hero. Thanks for adding another amazing video for me to study!! *Saves in Z- tech folder*
Is Magnus about to grace us with his Mega Man Zero skills yet again? But in HARD (aka less moves) MODE?
Maybe, maybe not ;)
Thank you SO MUCH for making this video. You have no idea how many times people call bullshit on me WHEN I DEMONSTRATE THIS, TOO. NEVER mock that boomerang!!
D-Did you just use recoil rod to bounce on a projectile in that first clip
AND THEN YOU USE IT TO BOUNCE TRETISTA’S PIPE BACK AT HIM IS THE RECOIL ROD EVEN COOLER THAN I THOUGHT
Ah yes, the Captain America method of victory: defencing them to death.
It definitely works well, it's not useless by any means, but it's just impractical to use and requires much deeper knowledge and skill to use effectively. One still could say it sucks in comparison to every other weapon in Z1~3 comparatively if Hard Mode is not regarded.
This is godlike, i can't even keep the shield moving around me without frying my brain in the process
Obviously it was going to be in Zero 3, where it actually has good uses
Z1 says hello
@@MagnusZero thats what i get for writing before finishing the video
Seeing uploads on a 20 year old game that i love makes me mega happy
You have to admit, Shield Boomerang got completely nerfed in Z4.
Does no damage, can't reflect enemy shots, no associated EX skills...
This gave me a much better idea of how to manipulate the shield loops, I'd always been curious. Thanks!
Fact: Shield Boomerang sucks
Fact: You are really good at this game
You have made me reconsider the shield boomerang, good sir.
I'll always stand by my statement that the Orbit Shield is cool as hell.
I've tried to use this trick a lot but I just plain suck at actually keeping it up for more than a second or two. As usual mad props you wizard.