@@aimbotwithouttheaim4520 he wasn't arrested as mendes said that he didn't want the police involved however greater Manchester police were going to if Pedro mendes did not say not to get involved.
It’s actually against FIFA rules to overturn an on field yellow in favour of a red. The FA said screw that and suspended him anyway. His club suspended him as well because of the uproar and the fact they didn’t think the FA could
There's honestly a point where football rules go out and the law comes in and this is it. How he avoided a case for a recorded publicized assault I'll never know. Like, he doesn't even try to go for the ball, that's just violence.
Thatcher big stronk defender. Thatcher smort tactic. Thatcher no allow goal. Thatcher tactic is opponent can not score if no opponent alive to score. Thatcher best defender. XD
@the_wanderer5536 ManUtd apparently have to set the example because they're the biggest club in Britain so everything gets talked about more with them (apart from things that go against them) so ManUtd are punished worse if they do wrong. Also in 2006/07 two players did absolutely disgusting fouls on Cristiano, 1 got away with no red card (MichaelBall for ManCity for his stamp on his chest), the other got a red card (JamesMorrison for Middlesbrough) but it then got rescinded 🤔 that would never be rescinded for a ManUtd player. When Arsenal were all jumping on VanNistelrooy in Sep2003 ManUtd players did nothing and still got 2 fines just because Arsenal had to get a number of fines so it seemed like it wasn't completely 1 sided treatment but Arsenal were completely in the wrong. When Arsenal lost their discipline in Feb2008 because they were being hammered in the FAcup they only got 1 red they should've got 4 and even after, the FA looked at the incidents after like Gallas kicking Nani despite the ball on the other end of the pitch and things like that, they still did nothing. Arsenal had a taste of their own medicine the following week though, Eduardo got his leg broken (unfortunate for him but karma for Arsenal) it messed up their season just like the 4 suspensions they should've had to key players would've done.
@@FootkerSnookballArsenal used to get looked after by David Dein, when he was at the FA. They hit off far too lightly for the Keown/Van Nistelrooy incident, at Old Trafford, with their punished players being allowed to stagger their suspensions, which was laughable. Their disciplinary record at that time was dreadful.
Sometimes commentators get lost in thinking about what they 'should' say, programmed behaviour, rather than interpreting what they see with their own eyes, often happens when people are nervous or in unfamiliar circumstances. That's why I think they say cliche things like this. Instead of seeing the clear and outrageous assault that ben thatcher commited.
Duncan Ferguson was jailed for something nowhere near as bad as this. Where does the line protecting sportsmen from prosecution end? If this had happened outside a pub, and CCTV was this clear, he'd be looking at ABH, if not GBH.
How do you define bad? Impact of the tackle? Duncan ferguson headbutted a player with the ball nowhere near him. That's assault anywhere else in the uk
@@superamario6464 Nobody would class that as a proper headbutt. It was on a par with Nunez's the other night. He basically walked into Mcstay, with his head bowed slightly. How that was ever a jail term is beyond me.
@@tollerancewithpride All footballers were expected to say that back in the day. I'm pretty sure Mcstay said the same about Ferguson, but if it was left to victim to decide on prosecutions, way more offenders would get off without charge. A battered wife saying she doesn't want her partner charging as an example, even when coppers turn up and catch them red handed.
I know his teammate was worried and trying to help, but moving Mendes' head was very dangerous, because he could have suffered a spinal injury, and any movement could have exacerbated it. Tough to know how I would react seeing him having a seizure, though.
Yea, it's very difficult to know, I can only assume his team mate was trying to ensure he didn't swallow his tongue which was a very real possibility in that position, it was a horrendous assault on Mendes.
@@niallreid7664 it's one of those things you just believe as you've heard of it so many times but now I know it's actually not a thing, my genuine thanks for the info. It's actually useful information for anyone who comes across a fitting person. 👍
Pedro Mendes was a superb guy, so respectful and easy on everyone on the pitch. A great player with a great attitude that could have simply died that day because of someone who can't handle their nervous system with humility.
there are reasons why Messi and CR7 have longer primes than the generation of Maradona. two legs tackles and physical attacks like these were more common during those period of time. it was about 2010s when referees are instructed to give a stricter rules, and I agree with that.
I find this hard to watch. I was only 17 when I saw this as a Pompey fan. Such aggression towards a player who was not in any way malicious at all. Something seriously wrong with Thatcher and clearly compensating for something else….
The other player in the picture is Nicky Summerbee playing for Sunderland. Remember him getting wiped out by Thatcher. Can’t remember who he did first but he should have a criminal record
Mendes seems to be showing a fencing response, an unnatural position of the arms following a concussion. Immediately after moderate forces have been applied to the brainstem,
It’s a red all day long even back then. I think what’s happened here is no one saw the punch thrown, he got away with it, the ref never saw it. And also no var back then either.
What an absolutely disgraceful assault that was! Thatcher was probably frustrated by how s**t he was as a player.. As a Spurs fan i know this all too well.. Thug!
Stop calling this a tackle, man just ran full speed and threw an elbow right into his face. If i was his teammate id break thatchers neck on the next play
G.K Jens Lehman, LB Ben Thatcher, RB Gabriel Heinze, CB Marco Materazzi, CB Richard Dunne, DM Roy Keane, CM Vinnie Jones, CM Joey Barton, FLW Lee Bowyer, FRW Stephen Hunt, CF Duncan Ferguson - PREM LEAGUE DREAM TEAM
*Leonardo - he elbowed Tab Ramos of the US and was sent off and eventually sent home in disgrace, before the actual end of the tournament itself. I am not defending Leonardo, but it was out of character for him and more of a 'rush of blood'. Thatcher had a history of this as was seen when he elbowed Nicky Summerbee, which is the thumbnail
The IPL gave him a six match ban. City manager Stuart Pearce called it “indefensible” and suspended Thatcher indefinitely. Pearce has shamed the IPL there...
This was the most upsetting thing I’ve ever seen in football. Cannot understand how he wasn’t done for assault. All the evidence is there for a conviction..
Stuart Pearce's Man City mirrored their manager. Players like Thatcher and Barton were regular thugs on a football pitch with little footballing ability
As a City fan i was doubly happy with Thatchers suspension for this. Firstly he deserved a longer ban and secondly he had no talent. I loved it when he wasn't in the team. He was a horrendous footballer
Ben Thatcher was an absolute disgrace to take out a fellow professional with his fore arm like that. That is a sending off all day long and at least a nine game suspension for a very cowardly act.
The nerve of the scumbag to pull a face and protest his innocence. It's assault and should have been criminally charged for it, but because it happens on a football pitch, it's just "part of the game", right?
How Thatcher was actually a professional footballer is still beyond me. Absolute thug.
Yep.
Disgusting that he played for the club I support (Spurs, unfortunately for me 🤣)
Snowflake
@@longlivetheboleyn1917Someone that doesn’t like knuckle draggers, bullies and thugs is not a snowflake.
Vinny Jones too lol
Should have been a lifetime ban for football.
Absolutely disgraceful and cowardly what Thatcher done.
That's red in any time, that was a shocking cowardly challenge.
He got a 12 match ban and 100k fine in the end and was even arrested for it
@@aimbotwithouttheaim4520 he wasn't arrested as mendes said that he didn't want the police involved however greater Manchester police were going to if Pedro mendes did not say not to get involved.
It’s actually against FIFA rules to overturn an on field yellow in favour of a red. The FA said screw that and suspended him anyway. His club suspended him as well because of the uproar and the fact they didn’t think the FA could
He literally got sent to a mental institute for 3 weeks for this.
"Now ive seen it again It's late"
'on the brink of a red'? What would he have to do, stab him to get a full blown red? Should have been a lifetime ban.
There's honestly a point where football rules go out and the law comes in and this is it. How he avoided a case for a recorded publicized assault I'll never know. Like, he doesn't even try to go for the ball, that's just violence.
This is one of the worst fouls I have ever seen.
Thatcher big stronk defender. Thatcher smort tactic. Thatcher no allow goal. Thatcher tactic is opponent can not score if no opponent alive to score. Thatcher best defender. XD
Yellow card only hahaha
You've never seen none league football I take?
@@davidclarke6718 I used to watch my local non league team every week.
It was an accident.
On the brink of a red???
It was men who used to play back then boy boys
@@denisosullivan3636 that’s nothing to do with being a man that’s gbh you pillock
@@denisosullivan3636 yeah really manly to have your skull rocked and seize on the pitch🙄
@@denisosullivan3636 elbowing someone in the head blindsided doesn’t make you a man, it makes a pathetic fanny
Could you imagine grealish playing back then
Cantona got banned for 9 months for a kick on a fan that didn't even hurt him
Thatcher only got a 6-game ban for this
@the_wanderer5536
ManUtd apparently have to set the example because they're the biggest club in Britain so everything gets talked about more with them (apart from things that go against them) so ManUtd are punished worse if they do wrong.
Also in 2006/07 two players did absolutely disgusting fouls on Cristiano, 1 got away with no red card (MichaelBall for ManCity for his stamp on his chest), the other got a red card (JamesMorrison for Middlesbrough) but it then got rescinded 🤔 that would never be rescinded for a ManUtd player.
When Arsenal were all jumping on VanNistelrooy in Sep2003 ManUtd players did nothing and still got 2 fines just because Arsenal had to get a number of fines so it seemed like it wasn't completely 1 sided treatment but Arsenal were completely in the wrong.
When Arsenal lost their discipline in Feb2008 because they were being hammered in the FAcup they only got 1 red they should've got 4 and even after, the FA looked at the incidents after like Gallas kicking Nani despite the ball on the other end of the pitch and things like that, they still did nothing. Arsenal had a taste of their own medicine the following week though, Eduardo got his leg broken (unfortunate for him but karma for Arsenal) it messed up their season just like the 4 suspensions they should've had to key players would've done.
@@FootkerSnookball🤓
@@FootkerSnookballThanks for the info. You’re right.
@@FootkerSnookballYou sound like a classic Liverpool fan, not a Manc.
@@FootkerSnookballArsenal used to get looked after by David Dein, when he was at the FA. They hit off far too lightly for the Keown/Van Nistelrooy incident, at Old Trafford, with their punished players being allowed to stagger their suspensions, which was laughable. Their disciplinary record at that time was dreadful.
On the brink of a red is what you call an understatement
"He's late" 😂 Even better "gotta be on the brink of a red" 😂
Sometimes commentators get lost in thinking about what they 'should' say, programmed behaviour, rather than interpreting what they see with their own eyes, often happens when people are nervous or in unfamiliar circumstances. That's why I think they say cliche things like this. Instead of seeing the clear and outrageous assault that ben thatcher commited.
the cherry on top was the yellow card shown at the end
"On the brink of a red"? 🤔
This lunatic should have been arrested.
He STILL should be arrested for this. UTTERLY disgusting
My words bro
Glen Johnson let mendes down. Should of planted 1 straight on Thatchers jaw.
I know what you mean but i think he realised the priority was helping his teammate, not causing a big melee
Considering Mendes was having a seizure at the time probably more important to get medical help. Than revenge.
Glen Johnson was blind sided, otherwise he would have done more than just push him away.
Fair challenge, football is sanitised these days. Grow up !
How that wasn't a red is beyond me. Most disgusting challenge I've ever seen. Mendes was carried off on a stretcher receiving oxygen.
"Opponent can not score, if there is no opponent" Big brain defensive tactics here.
Opponent: Through on goal
Thatcher: So, it seems you've chosen death
This wasn’t a foul. It was grievous bodily harm committed on a football pitch.
Duncan Ferguson was jailed for something nowhere near as bad as this. Where does the line protecting sportsmen from prosecution end? If this had happened outside a pub, and CCTV was this clear, he'd be looking at ABH, if not GBH.
How do you define bad? Impact of the tackle?
Duncan ferguson headbutted a player with the ball nowhere near him.
That's assault anywhere else in the uk
@@superamario6464 Nobody would class that as a proper headbutt. It was on a par with Nunez's the other night. He basically walked into Mcstay, with his head bowed slightly. How that was ever a jail term is beyond me.
Mendez himself said he didn't understand why police were involved if the victim doesn't see a problem it's hard to prosecute.
@@tollerancewithpride All footballers were expected to say that back in the day. I'm pretty sure Mcstay said the same about Ferguson, but if it was left to victim to decide on prosecutions, way more offenders would get off without charge. A battered wife saying she doesn't want her partner charging as an example, even when coppers turn up and catch them red handed.
@@tollerancewithpride that's not the point, and the victim does not always need to prosecute
If this was amatuer, Thatcher would have been decked and left lying with a mouthful of teeth.
Most of us south of Carlisle have a mouthful of teeth
On the brink of a red lol
Ex-Millwall and Wimbledon...what a surprise...but still a horrendous challenge, could have killed the poor bloke.
Who goes out to hurt a fellow professional like this. Absolute cowardly animal
I know his teammate was worried and trying to help, but moving Mendes' head was very dangerous, because he could have suffered a spinal injury, and any movement could have exacerbated it. Tough to know how I would react seeing him having a seizure, though.
Yea, it's very difficult to know, I can only assume his team mate was trying to ensure he didn't swallow his tongue which was a very real possibility in that position, it was a horrendous assault on Mendes.
@@onkouththat tongue swallow thing is a myth. But yeah, the guy panicked, I wouldn't hold it against him.
@@niallreid7664 it's one of those things you just believe as you've heard of it so many times but now I know it's actually not a thing, my genuine thanks for the info. It's actually useful information for anyone who comes across a fitting person. 👍
There’s a difference being brutal and being barbaric. Thatcher was the latter, disgusting player.
Pedro Mendes was a superb guy, so respectful and easy on everyone on the pitch. A great player with a great attitude that could have simply died that day because of someone who can't handle their nervous system with humility.
If Thatcher did that to me, he'd never walk again.
there are reasons why Messi and CR7 have longer primes than the generation of Maradona.
two legs tackles and physical attacks like these were more common during those period of time.
it was about 2010s when referees are instructed to give a stricter rules, and I agree with that.
That deserved a jail sentence.
A Lot worse than what Duncan Ferguson did when playing for rangers, when he headbutted a opposition player. He did prison for that,
If this was in 2021 he would be getting similar punishments to adam johnson
Years in bars? yeah, maybe a giant fine and a few months ban
Adam Johnson raped somebody
Great video description!
You can tell he went straight for the player..Disgraceful.
Brink of a red? It's gbh. Should have had a custodial sentence.
"Now I've seen it again it's late, gotta be on the brink of a red card" absolute mental commentary
"Now that I've seen it again, it's late," as if an well-timed elbow to the face is alright
Dermot Gallagher is employed by Sky for their ref watch! Wonder if VAR would have told him to take another look?
That's a criminal offence. You would be locked up for doing that on the streets. His 8 game ban and fine was not enough
Dermot Gallagher was ref. He now works for Sky Sports and continues with his bad judgements in today's matches.
Yellow seems harsh
The referee might have been 30 yards away, but the commentators....with instant slow motion replays....were they all BLIND ?
Ironically the referee now judges decisions on TV
People called the police because of this, Mendes was asked if he wanted to press charges
"it's got to be on the brink of a red"
Find me a bigger understatement.
I find this hard to watch. I was only 17 when I saw this as a Pompey fan. Such aggression towards a player who was not in any way malicious at all. Something seriously wrong with Thatcher and clearly compensating for something else….
Brink of a red? More like on the brink of a court case.
That’s a horrendous challenge.
The other player in the picture is Nicky Summerbee playing for Sunderland. Remember him getting wiped out by Thatcher. Can’t remember who he did first but he should have a criminal record
The brink of a red !!! times have changed , that's assault
One won the Uefa Champions League with Porto, the other should have balls and go inside the ring instead of play football.
Prison sentence. Nothing there but pure dangerous intent.
Yellow? Haha the game has changed now
These days that would be an assault charge!
Even the run to Mendez would be red nowadays lol
@@sebfox2194 I'd say 15 years ago it should have been an assault charge.
@@andyevans8993 I agree.
@@sebfox2194 At the time the police considered charging him actually, came to nothing though.
This isn't a foul, it's a crime
Glen Johnson saw that and should've cleaned him. If I saw someone do that to my teammate I'd wipe him out regardless of a possible red, or hiding 🤣
Well he was always shite at defending so you can’t rely on him defending anyone
“On the brink of a red” 😭😭😭
Mendes seems to be showing a fencing response, an unnatural position of the arms following a concussion. Immediately after moderate forces have been applied to the brainstem,
Not only redcard, but jail time for this db.
It’s a red all day long even back then. I think what’s happened here is no one saw the punch thrown, he got away with it, the ref never saw it. And also no var back then either.
Brink of a red Lmfaooooo
That was a fully grown Lex Luger Forearm Smash. Might as well have gone for the pin afterwards.
What an absolutely disgraceful assault that was! Thatcher was probably frustrated by how s**t he was as a player.. As a Spurs fan i know this all too well.. Thug!
Stop calling this a tackle, man just ran full speed and threw an elbow right into his face. If i was his teammate id break thatchers neck on the next play
Yellow!!!
He did get a 14 match ban to boot
Back when man city were nobodies. I watched this game, and it took a week for me to get over that KO. Spoke about it at school
That's not a tackle, that's assault
And now that referee gives talks on Sky Sports about referring decisions, you couldn't make this shit up 🤦
My favorite part is when the referee shows him the yellow card
😂😂😂😂😂
G.K Jens Lehman, LB Ben Thatcher, RB Gabriel Heinze, CB Marco Materazzi, CB Richard Dunne, DM Roy Keane, CM Vinnie Jones, CM Joey Barton, FLW Lee Bowyer, FRW Stephen Hunt, CF Duncan Ferguson - PREM LEAGUE DREAM TEAM
Mate where is Francis Benali?!
This is up there with Brazils Leandro' elbow to an opponents during the 94 world Cup. Close up video of the guy showed he was fkd up pretty bad
*Leonardo - he elbowed Tab Ramos of the US and was sent off and eventually sent home in disgrace, before the actual end of the tournament itself. I am not defending Leonardo, but it was out of character for him and more of a 'rush of blood'. Thatcher had a history of this as was seen when he elbowed Nicky Summerbee, which is the thumbnail
@Sa7biUK yeah Thatcher was a thug but I'm not comparing him with Leanardo but the latter's elbow on Ramos was fkn vicious
thats a textbook criminal offence
A yellow card for an elbow strike knock out??
The Ben Mee of the 90s
Was that pre oil
As clean as it gets. He had a nice siesta midway
Who's these numptys commentating
It took Ben thatcher to 2014 to finally release an apology video
I think VAR would have a different view on this one, shocking moment.
The IPL gave him a six match ban. City manager Stuart Pearce called it “indefensible” and suspended Thatcher indefinitely. Pearce has shamed the IPL there...
Were they playing cricket?
More of an assault than anything in the rules of football. Red card would have been a let off.
That was a yellow yet, somehow he managed to walk in to an elbow 😂😂
‘On the brink of a red’ 😂🤣😂
Was Pedro diving all match? Still its a bit coward to do this.
When futbol was beautiful and play for the Jersey, no just for the money
“On the brink of a red”
The commentary is way to calm
What year is this ?
disgraceful that. Who was the player trying to move Mendes head though? Worst thing he could have done if he had a neck injury surely?
Where was VAR ? 😊
That was utterly disgusting, I remember that live on TV. He should have been arrested that was pure violence nothing to do with football
W moment
On the brink of a red?
Definitely on the brink of a red.
This was the most upsetting thing I’ve ever seen in football. Cannot understand how he wasn’t done for assault. All the evidence is there for a conviction..
Man Cty susoended him indefinitely. Their manager at time was Stuart Pearce. It was indefensible whst Thatcher did.
Stuart Pearce's Man City mirrored their manager. Players like Thatcher and Barton were regular thugs on a football pitch with little footballing ability
Remember Mendes scored two massive goals against City!!!
Brink of a red 🤣 horrific foul. Straight red !!!
"brink of a red"?
Lucky he wasn't kicked into touch by the guy's team mate!
As a City fan i was doubly happy with Thatchers suspension for this.
Firstly he deserved a longer ban and secondly he had no talent. I loved it when he wasn't in the team. He was a horrendous footballer
"On the brink of a red" lol
Nice contact at least.
Ben Thatcher was an absolute disgrace to take out a fellow professional with his fore arm like that. That is a sending off all day long and at least a nine game suspension for a very cowardly act.
YELLOW CARD!?????
The nerve of the scumbag to pull a face and protest his innocence. It's assault and should have been criminally charged for it, but because it happens on a football pitch, it's just "part of the game", right?
Hm, ex millwall player. Yeah, that checks out...
Ex Wimbledon player, checks out even more.
@@CIMAmotor up the hammers
Who on earth is the co-commentator?
It sounds like Paul Walsh
David Elery or what ever is name is