we can't even dream of it anymore due to the increasing prices and tax burden, but we can hardly&barely even buy the bicycle... but we can still watch it, which is a pleasure... awesome machine
Mine just got to the dealership yesterday 😍 cant wait to go swing a leg over it! Pure work of art, this bike's styling calls to me like no other. Worthy upgrade to my fz09!
You're going to love it. Picked mine up about a month ago; Red Hopper. I spent the first few weeks simply admiring it. A beautiful bike put together exceptionally well offering top shelf performance. Coming from a 2016 ZX10R (which I kept), the 1200 RR offers it all.
Exactly Tim, this Speed Triple should have a full fairing and called a Daytona! Why, because the original 955i Speed Triple was a Daytona 955i with the fairings removed, but the engine was detuned to bring the max 72lbft of torque in at a lower engine rev. You rode the torque, no need to redline it. Similar with the Speed Triple 1050i. These Speed Triples were a sporty road machine that could handle a track day. As far as I know that was the Speed Triple concept. This new Speed Triple 1200RS and RR should have fairings added and made a Daytona! They are not Speed Triples in the true sense of the concept, ultra stiff suspension, hugely powerful revvy engine and track focused. Numerous well known reviewers have stated if you are not into track days buy another machine! I understand Triumph are trying to match competition with Super Nakeds, but these new Speed Triples will be a niche market, previous Speed Triple owners are not interested including me!! We'll keep our Speed Triple 955i's and 1050i's thank you! The 180bhp and 92lbft of torque is not Speed Triple and on British clogged and bumpy roads is laughable too. Not to mention the prices - £11.6k more than what I paid for a new Speed Triple.... Forget it! These 1200's should have had a new model name.
So many reviews from England (duh), I'm constantly impressed with you guys riding in the weather you have. If there is any chance of rain for me the bike stays in the garage that day :)
Great video… I made the change from the 1050 to the 1200rs and you are right about the sound. I do miss the burble of the twin underslung arrows! However I’ve now got a machine that is 100% insane fun and while the exhaust sound kinda sucks that induction noise is addictive… While I do miss my weighty 1050 it does feel a bit ‘grandad’ compared the the pure hooligan 1200! As for the RR.. Nah, I preference the Naked!
0:03 England is awesome! Try being an Aussie if you want to be disappointed. Though I'll take your inspiration and strive on to have an exceptional life thanks Tim (ya nutter 😆)
A wise Australian man once told me, that if you live in the rural areas southern England, that you should probably stay there, as it’s quite good. His name was Geoff, do you know him? 🤓
@@timrodierides Sadly we don't make utes anymore 😥 "Australia is Gods country. Why he chose to fill it with dickheads remains a mystery tho" - Tim Ferguson I'll swap with you anyday Mr Roadie. Thank God for TimTams! 😋🤣
The UK certainly doesn't have the franchise on shithouse politicians, we have them in spades here! If you want really awesome roads in Oz, you have to head over to Tasmania. I live in the hills east of Melbourne and we have great riding roads here and I still have to get my annual Tassie trip in.
Would you think the suspension would be good on the RS and worth the big increase in cost vs the RS manually adjusted for a softer setting for road use only. I have good roads here and find once i find a good setting i stick with it, sure there are times when you find crap roads but thats not often where i ride.
I would not bother if only suspension is concerning you. The RS suspension is very good. And being fully adjustable I'm sure you can find the perfect setup for you
Test ride RR at local dealer and was really underwhelming. Gearbox was super clunky when putting into first and then spongy up and down the box with a weird inability to get into neutral. Then went for a ride on a 1290 SD R and wow it was like being an orange 🍊 stick of dynamite 🧨 in comparison 😄
Nice one Tim.If you can get your hands on one,can you please revisit an icon.Namely the last ever version VFR 800F.These faired sportstourers are just back in vogue I would love to hear your thoughts,Thanks John.
So for all the reviews I've seen on this bike kind of skip over the most important part about the bike it's not just the electronically adjustable suspension that comes on them. When you dig into the settings it's so customizable. Of course you have your normal five settings rain ,road, sport ,track, Rider. But you get to adjust + 5 to - 5 engine braking, +5 to -5 acceleration support +5 to -5 cornering support. And then after all that you have three manual suspension settings you set up just like the 1200RS but with buttons instead of a screwdriver that you can save to the onboard computer and switch to it anytime like say a suspension setting for track1 suspension setting for track two and a third suspension setting for your favorite twisty road all at just a push of a button. And then the way the brakes work is never touched on like if you have it in track mode it'll let you lock up the back a little bit to back it into a corner. Or if you're pressing the front brake with progressive pressure to the point of a stoppie it will allow it without the ABS intervening but if you panic break the ABS save you from going down. To me it's without a doubt the best motorcycle I've ever ridden as a kind of do it all sport bike.
Base tuna v4 video can't come soon enough, there you get to confirm it's the perfect bike for me since 890 R would be uncomfortable for longer distances, so would sfv2 which is also too expensive for what it is, gixxis gt probably has too much touring and not enough sport and character with it's extra weight and i4 (your review of that should be coming soon as well). I could also get a slightly used sdr (we don't get the new SD GT in the states, and the old one felt too massive to me) for base tuono money, and then stick a windscreen onto it if I want to go for a longer ride 🤔 the deals on ZH2 SE seem to be pretty decent since nobody wants to buy them at MSRP, more weight and comfort there with entertaining supercharger noises, mt10 is too hideous, there are also great deals on Turismo veloces, but mv agusta ownership scares me when the closest dealer is six hours away or so.
Thank you Tim. I looked up the word Bibble and was delighted by its existence. Fabulous review of a bike that no one really wants, or needs. However pretty it is. I hope that Triumph continue to offer you their wares. You have something in reserve after the Tiger Sport review. Don't let the b****rs corrupt you with the lure of free helicopter rides over the.........Midlands!?
If we want noise - buy an old bike. I bought a 15yr old FZ1 and it screams - let off and around 4k flames accompany the aggressive pops. It's otherwise a sleeper looks wise.
I've got a 1050 RS Triple. I still don't pin the throttle. It scares the life out of me. Maybe I should really get a 350cc Enfield ! So yeah, as much as I think this looks like a stunning bike , that I'd love to own, it's almost certainly wasted on me, and I'd be wasting a lot more cash. I guess I'll just go down to my local Triumph dealers and dribble uncontrollably instead. The reality for me is also , I'm about 20 years older than you are . I just can't handle sports bike riding position. As you say , if they put the electro whizzy suspension on the naked, or may just my a faired variant like this with higher bars and pegs not as far back, that would suit me more. But I still don't have the cash ! How you don't have a bucket load more subscribers and views still beats the hell out of me ! ( I said that about a year ago) Maybe get in with TMF, Lamb Chop Rides and blag some more viewers !
@@timrodierides when you say more accessible power...... Can't help but think 🤔 yeah twist the throttle! You also commented that the revs go on forever, it's not a screamer, it's red lining at 11.5. Can't please some people.
@@timrodierides yes you can't please everyone, it's an opinion and yours. Just the wording is used to often 'accessible road power' does this mean put it in rain mode so you can use all of it but then the bike gets a hard timeas is because it isn't the same bhp as other superbikes. Or put it in sport and use as much as you want or need via the wrist. I've owned the Tt600, tripple 675 Daytona, 1050 RS speed and now the 1200RR. It's all preference. Personally the front wheel was way to easy to flick up on the RS 1050 and made it hard work in first gear, but excellent grunt in 2nd coming out of corners on track. It got a hard time people saying it was under powered compared to the market. It did however lack top end on the straights, probably better of the two as a pure road bike. The 1200RR I absolutely love, the styling is a thing of beauty but preference although it grew on me more and more after time. Loads of manageable low end grunt and the gearing is much better than the 1050. Put some clip on risers it would be the best bike of all of them personally.
Tried one of these out - loved the 'idea' of it - sort of a 'classy' sports bike, but the body position is ridiculous - I'm a weight-lifter in my 30s, not an old fella in my fifties, and I found this ride just unreasonably uncomfortable. I ended up with a 950S SuperSport from Ducati - even with the full Akrapovic race system, it cost less, is still fast, and is strikingly good looking (even if it gives up 60hp). For what the 1200RR costs? I'd really get a BMW or Ducati sports bike instead. A shame, and a miss by Triumph; I also own a 2020 Speed Twin and do love that one - I think Triumph just does retros better. Maybe they're just too far removed from making sports bikes to get it right?
Absolutely agree on all counts! I’m not really sure who the target audience for it is, the riding position’s only really going to be bearable on track but it’s not reeeeeaalllly a bike you’d want to take on track
@@timrodierides Aye, I'd rather just grab an old Daytona of theirs for the track instead - good punch, and if you drop it, well... that would be easier to live with! Cheers.
@@timrodierides as a Thruxton R/S owner with the fairing. Am I the target audience . I.e I love my Thruxton. Having completed a trip to Belgium this year, I don’t find the clip on that’s bad, for a weekend toy. One thing I would like….more power. Enter the Speed RR? The issue I think….lack of character?
Does being British-built matter a fig though? I don't really see them hamming up the Britishness all that much anymore. We've moved on from Daytonas with union flags on the nose
@@timrodierides I still have an 04 Daytona ....can't seem to "move on" as to production I don't think modern cnc machinery cares where in the world it is and will be just as accurate regardless of what language is being spoken around it.
Is your phone or computer you are using to connect online here made in the United Kingdom? Didn't think so. Ever own a Jaguar or Land Rover? British manufacturing is not very good.
Not a good looking thing with that single light.👎 Very expensive compared to eg Mt10. If it has to be a Triumph the 1050S speed is a better option for roads.
we can't even dream of it anymore due to the increasing prices and tax burden, but we can hardly&barely even buy the bicycle... but we can still watch it, which is a pleasure... awesome machine
Mine just got to the dealership yesterday 😍 cant wait to go swing a leg over it! Pure work of art, this bike's styling calls to me like no other. Worthy upgrade to my fz09!
You're going to love it. Picked mine up about a month ago; Red Hopper. I spent the first few weeks simply admiring it. A beautiful bike put together exceptionally well offering top shelf performance. Coming from a 2016 ZX10R (which I kept), the 1200 RR offers it all.
@@erca916 tomorrow, with a bit of luck! Also red of course 👌
Exactly Tim, this Speed Triple should have a full fairing and called a Daytona! Why, because the original 955i Speed Triple was a Daytona 955i with the fairings removed, but the engine was detuned to bring the max 72lbft of torque in at a lower engine rev. You rode the torque, no need to redline it. Similar with the Speed Triple 1050i. These Speed Triples were a sporty road machine that could handle a track day. As far as I know that was the Speed Triple concept. This new Speed Triple 1200RS and RR should have fairings added and made a Daytona! They are not Speed Triples in the true sense of the concept, ultra stiff suspension, hugely powerful revvy engine and track focused. Numerous well known reviewers have stated if you are not into track days buy another machine! I understand Triumph are trying to match competition with Super Nakeds, but these new Speed Triples will be a niche market, previous Speed Triple owners are not interested including me!! We'll keep our Speed Triple 955i's and 1050i's thank you! The 180bhp and 92lbft of torque is not Speed Triple and on British clogged and bumpy roads is laughable too. Not to mention the prices - £11.6k more than what I paid for a new Speed Triple.... Forget it! These 1200's should have had a new model name.
So many reviews from England (duh), I'm constantly impressed with you guys riding in the weather you have. If there is any chance of rain for me the bike stays in the garage that day :)
Great video… I made the change from the 1050 to the 1200rs and you are right about the sound. I do miss the burble of the twin underslung arrows! However I’ve now got a machine that is 100% insane fun and while the exhaust sound kinda sucks that induction noise is addictive… While I do miss my weighty 1050 it does feel a bit ‘grandad’ compared the the pure hooligan 1200! As for the RR.. Nah, I preference the Naked!
I'm hoping that eventually when more full exhaust systems become available for the RS and RR the sound will be much more satisfying.
Thanks for the review I found the riding section sound was a bit muffled. Still enjoyed it though
Thanks for watching - I'm trying to find a better mic setup. Working on it, but it really depends on what bike I'm on annoyingly…
Yes! A speed triple with Ohlins active suspension please.
Or just fit high bars to this one, and a double bubble screen.
How can LED indicators be an option on such an expensive bike?
Give me a P! Give me a rofit
0:03 England is awesome! Try being an Aussie if you want to be disappointed.
Though I'll take your inspiration and strive on to have an exceptional life thanks Tim (ya nutter 😆)
A wise Australian man once told me, that if you live in the rural areas southern England, that you should probably stay there, as it’s quite good.
His name was Geoff, do you know him? 🤓
Haha thanks Mr Hedgehog. Australia looks awesome, you have TimTams and beaches and stuff. And utes. Never forget the utes.
@@timrodierides Sadly we don't make utes anymore 😥
"Australia is Gods country. Why he chose to fill it with dickheads remains a mystery tho" - Tim Ferguson
I'll swap with you anyday Mr Roadie. Thank God for TimTams! 😋🤣
The UK certainly doesn't have the franchise on shithouse politicians, we have them in spades here!
If you want really awesome roads in Oz, you have to head over to Tasmania. I live in the hills east of Melbourne and we have great riding roads here and I still have to get my annual Tassie trip in.
@@AnyoneSeenMikeHunt don’t forget R.M. Williams..
Would you think the suspension would be good on the RS and worth the big increase in cost vs the RS manually adjusted for a softer setting for road use only. I have good roads here and find once i find a good setting i stick with it, sure there are times when you find crap roads but thats not often where i ride.
I would not bother if only suspension is concerning you. The RS suspension is very good. And being fully adjustable I'm sure you can find the perfect setup for you
You probably need a softer spring. Just turning the knobs won't do it.
Test ride RR at local dealer and was really underwhelming. Gearbox was super clunky when putting into first and then spongy up and down the box with a weird inability to get into neutral. Then went for a ride on a 1290 SD R and wow it was like being an orange 🍊 stick of dynamite 🧨 in comparison 😄
so a proper Trumpet then! lol
Nice one Tim.If you can get your hands on one,can you please revisit an icon.Namely the last ever version VFR 800F.These faired sportstourers are just back in vogue I would love to hear your thoughts,Thanks John.
So for all the reviews I've seen on this bike kind of skip over the most important part about the bike it's not just the electronically adjustable suspension that comes on them. When you dig into the settings it's so customizable. Of course you have your normal five settings rain ,road, sport ,track, Rider. But you get to adjust + 5 to - 5 engine braking, +5 to -5 acceleration support +5 to -5 cornering support. And then after all that you have three manual suspension settings you set up just like the 1200RS but with buttons instead of a screwdriver that you can save to the onboard computer and switch to it anytime like say a suspension setting for track1 suspension setting for track two and a third suspension setting for your favorite twisty road all at just a push of a button. And then the way the brakes work is never touched on like if you have it in track mode it'll let you lock up the back a little bit to back it into a corner. Or if you're pressing the front brake with progressive pressure to the point of a stoppie it will allow it without the ABS intervening but if you panic break the ABS save you from going down. To me it's without a doubt the best motorcycle I've ever ridden as a kind of do it all sport bike.
How do you set the engine braking? I find mine too abrupt and didn’t know I could graduate it
I don’t know much about bikes, but it’s very pretty 🤩
What’s with the smoothy Tim?
He was giving it the berries. An English expression for accelerating hard.
C’mon spill the beans, which elderflower cordial were you referring to?
Belvoir obvs, there can only be one true elderflower. Unless you know better, in which case I'm all ears!
I prefer bottlegreen to Belvoir.
Didn't notice before that it has an exhaust flap.
It’s more naked than a Tueno.
Just an observation
My favorite visual que on the bike is the Tri shaped crankcase cover.
Damn good looker
Such a nice bike. Stylish. Could be in Matrix ❤️
Base tuna v4 video can't come soon enough, there you get to confirm it's the perfect bike for me since 890 R would be uncomfortable for longer distances, so would sfv2 which is also too expensive for what it is, gixxis gt probably has too much touring and not enough sport and character with it's extra weight and i4 (your review of that should be coming soon as well). I could also get a slightly used sdr (we don't get the new SD GT in the states, and the old one felt too massive to me) for base tuono money, and then stick a windscreen onto it if I want to go for a longer ride 🤔 the deals on ZH2 SE seem to be pretty decent since nobody wants to buy them at MSRP, more weight and comfort there with entertaining supercharger noises, mt10 is too hideous, there are also great deals on Turismo veloces, but mv agusta ownership scares me when the closest dealer is six hours away or so.
She is a beauty but not for me. Too much track and not enough street for me. Wish they made an RS with that front end.
Me too
Thank you Tim. I looked up the word Bibble and was delighted by its existence. Fabulous review of a bike that no one really wants, or needs. However pretty it is. I hope that Triumph continue to offer you their wares. You have something in reserve after the Tiger Sport review. Don't let the b****rs corrupt you with the lure of free helicopter rides over the.........Midlands!?
If we want noise - buy an old bike. I bought a 15yr old FZ1 and it screams - let off and around 4k flames accompany the aggressive pops. It's otherwise a sleeper looks wise.
I've got a 1050 RS Triple. I still don't pin the throttle. It scares the life out of me. Maybe I should really get a 350cc Enfield !
So yeah, as much as I think this looks like a stunning bike , that I'd love to own, it's almost certainly wasted on me, and I'd be wasting a lot more cash. I guess I'll just go down to my local Triumph dealers and dribble uncontrollably instead.
The reality for me is also , I'm about 20 years older than you are . I just can't handle sports bike riding position.
As you say , if they put the electro whizzy suspension on the naked, or may just my a faired variant like this with higher bars and pegs not as far back, that would suit me more. But I still don't have the cash !
How you don't have a bucket load more subscribers and views still beats the hell out of me ! ( I said that about a year ago)
Maybe get in with TMF, Lamb Chop Rides and blag some more viewers !
She's beautiful
Access so power? It's called pulling the throttle back.
Oh is that how it works? Thanks for explaining
@@timrodierides when you say more accessible power...... Can't help but think 🤔 yeah twist the throttle! You also commented that the revs go on forever, it's not a screamer, it's red lining at 11.5. Can't please some people.
@@simontaylor5170 UA-cam commenters are especially hard to please. Still, it's the worst Speed Triple yet isn't it
@@timrodierides yes you can't please everyone, it's an opinion and yours. Just the wording is used to often 'accessible road power' does this mean put it in rain mode so you can use all of it but then the bike gets a hard timeas is because it isn't the same bhp as other superbikes. Or put it in sport and use as much as you want or need via the wrist. I've owned the Tt600, tripple 675 Daytona, 1050 RS speed and now the 1200RR. It's all preference. Personally the front wheel was way to easy to flick up on the RS 1050 and made it hard work in first gear, but excellent grunt in 2nd coming out of corners on track. It got a hard time people saying it was under powered compared to the market. It did however lack top end on the straights, probably better of the two as a pure road bike.
The 1200RR I absolutely love, the styling is a thing of beauty but preference although it grew on me more and more after time. Loads of manageable low end grunt and the gearing is much better than the 1050. Put some clip on risers it would be the best bike of all of them personally.
Tried one of these out - loved the 'idea' of it - sort of a 'classy' sports bike, but the body position is ridiculous - I'm a weight-lifter in my 30s, not an old fella in my fifties, and I found this ride just unreasonably uncomfortable. I ended up with a 950S SuperSport from Ducati - even with the full Akrapovic race system, it cost less, is still fast, and is strikingly good looking (even if it gives up 60hp). For what the 1200RR costs? I'd really get a BMW or Ducati sports bike instead. A shame, and a miss by Triumph; I also own a 2020 Speed Twin and do love that one - I think Triumph just does retros better. Maybe they're just too far removed from making sports bikes to get it right?
Absolutely agree on all counts! I’m not really sure who the target audience for it is, the riding position’s only really going to be bearable on track but it’s not reeeeeaalllly a bike you’d want to take on track
@@timrodierides Aye, I'd rather just grab an old Daytona of theirs for the track instead - good punch, and if you drop it, well... that would be easier to live with! Cheers.
@@timrodierides as a Thruxton R/S owner with the fairing. Am I the target audience . I.e I love my Thruxton. Having completed a trip to Belgium this year, I don’t find the clip on that’s bad, for a weekend toy. One thing I would like….more power. Enter the Speed RR? The issue I think….lack of character?
No dude you are wrong, best cricket bats are made in india whatever, can't afford this beautiful machine here 😀
Latest not last
I wouldn't buy a triumph ! They play on the British heritage in advertising n bike shows but moved all production abroad they just not British
Does being British-built matter a fig though? I don't really see them hamming up the Britishness all that much anymore. We've moved on from Daytonas with union flags on the nose
The title says last British superbike
@@keithhutchinson5657 what should it say?
@@timrodierides I still have an 04 Daytona ....can't seem to "move on"
as to production I don't think modern cnc machinery cares where in the world it is and will be just as accurate regardless of what language is being spoken around it.
Is your phone or computer you are using to connect online here made in the United Kingdom? Didn't think so. Ever own a Jaguar or Land Rover? British manufacturing is not very good.
I might look back in 5 or 10 years and think yea it looks ok. But for now it's fugly.
Not a good looking thing with that single light.👎
Very expensive compared to eg Mt10.
If it has to be a Triumph the 1050S speed is a better option for roads.
I'll tell you what this is. It's an overweight piece of garbage that no one will buy. A totally pointless shitter excuse for a motorcycle