Slingerland Bugle part 3- From All Right to Awe S*
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- Опубліковано 1 лип 2023
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Today is episode 3 in the Slingerland bugle series. Things started off great then went bad. Almost like a horror story.... Stay turned for part 4
Thanks for watching.
the "average" repair man can fix issues.. the master - he knows what to do when things go sideways and doesn't get emotional... just step back, and keeps after it...
I really appreciate you leaving that slip-up in, too often, creators want to have perfect videos and edit a lot of things out. Trades like yours are not without their challenges and it's good to show that!
Always interesting watching you work Wes.
I personally appreciate seeing when things go sideways like it did and how a master craftsman fixes it. Sure you didn't want things to go that way but the true mastery is overcoming mistakes.
Wes, never seen you upset before... not to worry, you will get it fixed. In my first year at work, I misread a faded blue print and got a bolt circle messed up when what was an 8 I read as a 3. That bolt circle was 1/2 inch too small. My company waited 9 months for that huge stainless steel part to be made... it ended up as cut up scrap and not repairable. Lucky my boss was forgiving.
Thanks, Wes!
I have to say, as a machinist that sometimes welds, I find your channel fascinating. Never put any thought into there being an entire industry of specialists like yourself, working on formed sheet metal instruments.
Very cool content! Thanks again!
It's when things go sideways that one sees what someone is made of. It's particularly frustrating when you know it went sideways because you took a shortcut and you "should have known better." I feel ya, my dude. You have the skills, and you know how to fix it. You got this.
Hi Wes, it looks like this was the first time that ball got loose on you , if that's true, I admire how you handled it and moved on, can't wait to see part 4.
You may have made a slip up on the repair, but you are 100% on the money as a good human being, an example and a teacher. Thank you for accepting your responsibility and for your calm demeanor in light of the disappointment. Best regards for 2024.
I can just imagine the ancient guys who developed these
metalworking techniques back in history. Great minds and eyes.
Tough break on that ball failure.
Have a nice meal, watch some cartoons, and an idea will come your way.
I wish I had a dollar for every time I lost a ball in the tube. Sometimes it comes loose when you pull it out too fast and it becomes a rapidly disappearing projectile. That hard thick brass can be a headache, but hard-thin French tubing I see sometimes is worse... every time you fix a joint, another one comes loose. GAK!
I've had the same thing happen with the threaded end coming off when doing a lot of tapping. It has to be tight!
Always enjoyable to watch a craftsman at work.
The art of repair requires that sometimes, you walk away, ponder, create a new plan and get back to it...
Exactly. I spent some time this morning doing just that and came up with a satisfactory solution--better than before.
Excellent! As far as the F-up, anyone who works on anything knows how things turn to sh*t sometimes.I admire your patience and your craftsmanship, that's a fact.
You gotta feel the pain for what it is. Now you’re a wiser technician. Your stick-to-itness is one of your greatest strengths.
Your knowledge is your wealth.
Doing silver it is called a planishing hammer . The first time I saw the use of the ball to remove dents was in 1975 on a Tuba . I was very impressed ,by the old man that knew just how to move the metal to his will . You have the knowledge that he had .
We are sure that you will overcome this difficulty with skill and experience, we are convinced of it: the difficulty is just as didactic as when everything is going well! That's where all your talent is measured, man.👍👍
Massive respect for your knowledge and craftsmanship!
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As a former shop teacher, some of my best demonstrations were the ones where I made a mistake or two. I found the students learned better by my mistakes.
The hard part was swallowing my pride.
Thank you for keeping this video intact. No matter what a craftsman is doing. Be it mounting a transom to a boat, rebuilding a classic V8, homesteading in the Italian Alps, or chasing an edge in the crook of a trombone etc, etc, etc. The entertaining part is witnessing the triumph over tragedy. Keeping the job in perspective to life. Even when the job IS life in some ways. Because it's beloved by the craftsman. A craftsman in this case that lovingly reminisces about chasing brass blisters in his early days of learning his trade. Nerding out over ANYTHING can bring us joy. So much so that even the memory of nerding out brings us joy. Thank you for sharing. Looking forward to the next step in this fix!
I feel your pain and frustration Wes
Since you had to remove it. You can now put in a mold and press balls through it to get it back to round. It is a common method used in instrument manufacturing and should work well to repair it as well.
Love the content. Headed to Red Wing next semester!
I have used a powerful home made electromagnet and steel balls to repair dents on a BBb base squashed under a bus wheel some 20 odd years ago. Turning the unit on and off pulled the ball with a good force and great accuracy to chase the dents. I have been playing brass some 60 years
These videos should be mandatory watching for band members. Show them the difficulty of fixing carelessness.
Please show use the part 4 when it’s all done. Another great video from the house of tone! Thanks.
By all means! Waiting semi-patiently for part 4!
Lessons learned. Heavy brass needs more care during repairs. Thanks for leaving that lesson in the video!
This happens everywhere there are repairs done. Just do something else to get the frustration out and continue. Or when you have the time,sleep over it. In your sleep you find a solution that didn’t pop into your mind at that moment.
Always good to see the failures, it is not fun,but something to learn from.
Whoa! Big SHTF project!!! Your patience is really tested on this one :-(
Not much ugly but much skill and patience greatly admired by this viewer
This demonstrates what efforts are needed to restore our precious instruments
Thanks lLes
It's always a treat to drop in on your shop and see an expert at work. None of the craftspeople I follow always have good days and that's what keeps them interesting.
I guess I'm lucky you were willing to repair my trumpet. I'm fascinated by your videos. Keep it up.
Wes, great work, even when it gets away from you. Love your channel.
Great video! Now we get to see how a Master comes uo with a solution. Thanks for sharing.
Maxim #70. Failure is not an option -- it is mandatory. The option is whether or not to let failure be the last thing you do. -- _The Seventy Maxims of Maximally Effective Mercenaries_
Like the question segment. Very nice. I so enjoy watching you work.
So grateful to spend time over your shoulder .
These setbacks make the video even more interesting.
Well done as usual. As someone who works mostly with stringed instruments, my metalworking is pretty much limited to silver soldering and making tools. I appreciate your artistry. Keep up the good work.
cheers from cloudy Vienna, Scott
Thanks for your great work! I would love to watch your work for hours in the shop and ask many stupid questions.
The ability to bring trashed valuables back from dumpsters is something invaluable. There were multiple skilled workers years ago that worked on that instrument, to make many people smile. Now you work to extend their works life by probably many more years.
Thanks for leaving it in. Broke one of those cables this year....feel the pain with ya man..
I do Guitar and music electronics work and I totally respect your integrity here. It is so much easier to admit error and fix it than to pretend it didn't happen. In case you were worried, we all knew stuff like this happens sometimes. Thanks for the great vids and keep shoving that brass around.
Some days you're the windshield. Some days you're the bug. Just don't give up.
a favorite saying in Sweden is S*#t happens you got through it well good video as always
Thanks Wes, really love watching these videos. As a former Tuba player, I particularly appreciate your work on brass instruments. It was good to see the problems you encountered, but loved how you just dealt with it and didn't let it get you down.
I love all of your work and your attention to details. I enjoy your ability to be creative when things go sideways and watch you create a way to make things right. You are a Pro at what you do.
You are such an awesome personality mr Lee, never loses your cool. I really appreciate your videos.
Loved this video. Thanks for showing us the dark side and your readiness to keep on fixin' whatever the problem comes up. I know a true craftsman can always find a solution for an unexpected problem.
Awesome! A craftsman at work.
I am so sorry to hear your not taking on shipped in work, but I completely understand. Please can you refer someone well qualified to repair my 1964 Conn Director . It’s a beautiful horn and would love for someone to make some minor repairs. I am loss in Athens Georgia……😢
Great video love the content.
I enjoy your videos and admire your work. It is very hard to find a good repairman. There are dozens of places to get my saxes repaired in Dallas but I have driven 40 miles away from the city to find someone of your quality. Only because a good repairman will make your hour sing. Keep up the good work.
I appreciate you showing us that things can get rough, even for a pro like you. 👍
What’s up Wes! I’ve recently started following you and you remind me so much of my mentor (mark vandermark) I’ve been a repair tech for about 10years now at Playground music center, in the Panhandle! Love your videos man!
Love the content: Good, Bad, and Ugly.
I've found the N56 to be useful for such things. I have a smaller version of it, not sure where it came from or if it's still made. Something to consider.
Nice to see there are always challenges to keep us on our toes
Howdy Wes, I'm curious if you get an internal frustration when you are only hired to fix some of the issues and not being able to complete a full restoration on an instrument? I do luthier work and partial fixes drive me crazy. I really enjoy your videos! God Bless.
Hi Sir.
You and your wonderful craftsmanship are my motivation and a source of knowledge from which I can draw experience and knowledge. Your work is a role model for me. You're the best. I'm just starting my adventure with repairing instruments, but you are an invaluable source of knowledge for me :) Thank you very much and I wish you success and I look forward to more fascinating lessons.
Great video.😄😄
It all works out in the end! And if it helps, you helped me out! I'm gonna rethink how I should attack a 145 yr old crook in a Courtois and Mille cornet! Thank you kind sir!
As a piano technician, I can really relate to your channel - and, especially this video. You get into old instruments, and who knows what's going to happen?! Really feel for you - now it's going to take more time - and less $$$. !@#$%^&* Love your channel and your vibe.
Shit happens sometimes Wes! Welcome to my world!
Thanks for posting, warts and all. See you in Part 4.
Bummer... want to see part 4
don't beat yourself Wes, like it all!
Temporary solder a copper water pipe to the bow and push the ball out by water pressure.
Do you suppose the brass is thicker in the bugle because Slingerland thought it would get beat up in the field? I love watching you work!
I was wondering the age of it. I could see brass getting thinner through the years to maximize profit. As a former trumpet player, I have to imagine the thickness of brass changes the sound too.
Hello Wes, love your work and find it has a lot of crossover to doing hammer and dolly work on car sheet metal. Couple of things: wouldn't it help to heat up the dents on the bends and dents to get them out with the inside ball? I noticed all your on and off hammer work was pretty much just on one side of the tube and would push the metal towards the other high side, making it harder to get it round. Can you suipport the other side to help pushing the metal back to where you want it? Can you braze the broken piece back on the the joiner section? Then you could put the brazed section where the solder joint is on the other tube and keep the original joiner with all the patina. Aren't there expanding sections that would help get those big dents in the bends? Thanks for the videos.
I'd love to be the "fly" on your wall just to watch and learn
You ain't the first cowboy been bucked off that horse!
I was snickering by the end because I have shot myself in the foot so many times it's amazing i have any toes left...my motto in such situation is "well, that was a revolting developement"....my favorite is thinking I can get another half turn out of a tap while threading the last hole on a project...
Nice
Wes,
Do you try to get an even wall thickness on the tubing you repair? Does it not generally matter, or do you intentionally move the metal to thicken certain areas?
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Does water expansion work filling it with water and freezing ? Love the videos I have never seen this repair work before.
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What brand of storage containers are the plastic black and yellow and black and red containers we see at the end it looks very customizable and useful?
The binge continues. I'll be back.
Would heating it conjunction with the magnet have loosened it enough for the ball to release or was that ferrule just too out of round?
Hey, Wes -- maybe you could use an old bicycle shift/brake cable pushed through to push the ball out from the other side?
I was thinking that compressed air might have worked, but musical instruments are not my field only fixing foul ups, self inflicted and others.😅
What do you use to clean pipes that have limescale buildup?
I always wondered how in the world some of these instruments get so damaged. Some look like they’ve been attacked with a sledge hammer.
Airport baggage handlers.
@@Proud2bmodest Well, you would think so. But anybody shipping instruments would use shipworthy cases. These damaged instruments are clearly mishandled by the "musicians" using them, sometimes intentionally (look at these dents! Let's add some more!). Mostly though just not understanding how to hold a horn.
i was always interested about one thing
every brass instrument is a tuned air container meaning any length or crossection change would afect the sound to some degree
if you take something apart how do you tune it back? since i am not a playing person i presume slides has something to do with it, but was there any repair you did that you run out of tune and had to chase the problem?
As someone who's played brass you are correct, the slides are there to adjust the tuning. Haven't played in decades though so my knowledge is very rusty.
Dent wizard
good day WES.....do you use magnet for dents too?..thx for ur vdos..
can anyone tell me the name of that hammer that hits the back?
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Wow no apron on? Are You feeling ok?
We are in the heat of summer, 96 degrees and 100% humidity. Even in air conditioning, you feel it. The leather is too heavy right now.
Could you blow the ball out with compressed air?
bring someone to help you out
Loved watching this!