While turning around a burned tree stump, I was shocked by what I found inside

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  • @MosesOnAcid
    @MosesOnAcid Рік тому +406

    What was the point of using burnt wood if you just remove all trace of it? Looked good with the burnt patches before you ground them out.

    • @cliffboulton8763
      @cliffboulton8763 11 місяців тому +27

      @MosesOnAcid I agree, especially in the large gap. Sorry NDT but, to me at least. your circular ground out bits looked totally UNnatural. Would have looked much nicer left Black.
      Having said that, if you want to send it over to the UK, I'll pay the cost. LOL

    • @andreavandekleut6379
      @andreavandekleut6379 9 місяців тому +17

      Indeed. He should have use epoxy and just hollowed out the barrel form

    • @oldrogue4247
      @oldrogue4247 9 місяців тому +17

      Quite right, M.O.A. The original was much more interesting.
      It could have been made level in several different orientations as a table base, or left alone simply as an interesting object, indoors or out.
      “Less is more,” even during in reduction of an object.
      There is a reason art & craft aren’t the same.

    • @sarahm9723
      @sarahm9723 6 місяців тому +14

      The burn made it artistic

    • @garycallahan9307
      @garycallahan9307 4 місяці тому +7

      After he carved out most of the burned area the piece lost all of it's character. I would have used a steel brush of some kind to eliminate some of the charred wood, but he left it looking like insects had eaten much of the wood.

  • @Katan-i7i
    @Katan-i7i Рік тому +165

    Okay, I loved this piece of wood... Past tense. You sanded off that beautiful black color.. yes, I know it was burnt wood, but it was SUCH a beautiful contrast to the blond wood, wasnt there any way to just lightly sand the black color down and left it?? Or maybe used a clear resin to make it shine??

    • @harrybond1485
      @harrybond1485 Рік тому +10

      I agree.

    • @tiaa668
      @tiaa668 Рік тому +8

      Exactly what I was going to post

    • @peterottes6900
      @peterottes6900 Рік тому +12

      Same response here. Ruined the look with all the sanding of the black parts. Looks like a rotten apple now.🤨👎

    • @dorothydevinney694
      @dorothydevinney694 Рік тому +8

      Well you destroyed that piece, by sanding off the black.

    • @suzannesnow7485
      @suzannesnow7485 11 місяців тому +4

      @@dorothydevinney694his art … his choice!

  • @younkm1
    @younkm1 5 місяців тому +12

    I love watching a Craftsman at work. It always amazes me what you see in a blob of burnt wood and make such a beautiful piece of art. 😀

  • @dallasquinby2209
    @dallasquinby2209 Рік тому +88

    I thought it looked really gorgeous before you took all the burnt wood of of it. Because on phone the non burnt part of the wood looked kinda yellow on my phone screen an the burnt wood with black w😂a
    With the black was gorgeous

    • @rebelbecky276
      @rebelbecky276 18 днів тому +1

      I liked the burnt look as well.

  • @6cresteds
    @6cresteds Рік тому +457

    Where is the shocking part or is it just Clickbait? I’m glad I fast forwarded it.

    • @benniebarrow348
      @benniebarrow348 Рік тому +78

      My question too.......where's the shocking find ? Standard click bait practice. Won't be back.

    • @markjgaletti57
      @markjgaletti57 Рік тому +21

      Always fast forward

    • @tokyotessie
      @tokyotessie Рік тому +8

      I watched at 2x speed.

    • @mamaj6028
      @mamaj6028 Рік тому +52

      Since you don't appreciate art, the vase itself was what was in that burnt chunk of wood ! It was burnt hunk of wood and the vase emerged from it, get it yet ?? 🙄🙄🙄 Gorgeous piece ! Stay on the Maury and Judge Judy feeds please.

    • @mrrick3999
      @mrrick3999 Рік тому +34

      Nothing 'shocking'. Ignoring this channel, hate clickbait.

  • @Christine-jc3cb
    @Christine-jc3cb Рік тому +9

    Beautiful. Amazing talent. Very inspirational and enjoyable to watch. Thank you for sharing

  • @tracywaynegregoree5863
    @tracywaynegregoree5863 11 місяців тому +5

    Beautiful piece. I love watching wood turning, it's so therapeutic. I've tried it myself before. It's not easy. Well done.

  • @terrydelfrate
    @terrydelfrate Рік тому +91

    Looked better before you used the ball rotary tool. The burnt looked good.

    • @harrybond1485
      @harrybond1485 Рік тому +10

      Agree.

    • @gbpine
      @gbpine Рік тому +6

      I agree! I thought maybe resin was going in but nope! I feel it was ruined with those big gouges out of burned areas.

    • @lindawoodbury5574
      @lindawoodbury5574 Рік тому +9

      I definitely would have left the burnt areas. They were a testament to the extreme heat had endured 😊

  • @bobrolls3800
    @bobrolls3800 11 місяців тому +173

    Another misleading UA-cam video. I along with many others waited until the end of the video to see what the woodworker found in the stump but nothing was there. The title was coined in such a way as to make the viewer think something extra ordinary was found.

    • @neilcreamer8207
      @neilcreamer8207 6 місяців тому +13

      Clickbait.

    • @sarahm9723
      @sarahm9723 6 місяців тому +12

      He found some lovely, usable wood inside!

    • @WayOfAges
      @WayOfAges 5 місяців тому +4

      I was waiting for a hand or something.

    • @colinwishbone4437
      @colinwishbone4437 2 місяці тому +2

      Nothing changes what many bloggers do!!

    • @georgehouston7596
      @georgehouston7596 2 місяці тому

      Its talking about the tree bark of the stamp and how it turns out to be after it was all done before putting on display. Not what you think this video isn't misleading it is one of the wood tech educated how to make things out of that kind of wood in specific way.

  • @MendocinoButterfly
    @MendocinoButterfly Рік тому +66

    You destroyed the beauty of the wood when you gouged out the burnt areas. You could have just eased the edges of the burnt areas a bit to create smoother lines. Also the ‘design’ of your gouging was very poor. I’m sorry to be so mean, I don’t usually leave negative comments. You need to study art and design before you ruin any more material. Especially when you were brave enough to turn that stump, and managed a decently shaped vase-like object.

    • @bulldog236us
      @bulldog236us 6 місяців тому +1

      Pretty much what I was going to say. Now I don't have to.

    • @d.c.8278
      @d.c.8278 2 місяці тому

      Me too.

  • @anaprieu5761
    @anaprieu5761 Рік тому +55

    Burnt and discarded.
    You brought back the memory of the tree with this beautiful piece.
    It is now immortal.

  • @loreleitanney9832
    @loreleitanney9832 Рік тому +80

    Its nice but I really loved the black spots. Its your art so you can do what you envision. But the black was really nice.

  • @dhtisme7034
    @dhtisme7034 Рік тому +57

    Very nice. But I think it would have looked better if you left all the black burnt insides alone & sprayed it w/your golden color. All the indentation marks from the little hand drill didn't do it justice.

  • @danielaplaiasu-oy8rk
    @danielaplaiasu-oy8rk 2 місяці тому +4

    WoW! A real artist! Thank You!❤

  • @fernwhite7523
    @fernwhite7523 Рік тому +16

    What I think about is , what has this tree been through all these years and it took a fire to take it down. Wow.

  • @donnaklingensmith8115
    @donnaklingensmith8115 Рік тому +35

    Well, what did you u find?

    • @benniebarrow348
      @benniebarrow348 Рік тому +9

      a typical dishonest way to get clicks.

    • @JamesCouch777
      @JamesCouch777 Рік тому +4

      Wood

    • @everettwalker9048
      @everettwalker9048 5 місяців тому +1

      @@benniebarrow348 Exactly Ugly too. " Art, by it's very nature, is useless"- Oscar Wilde.....ugly too. sometimes.

    • @DontKnowDontCare6.9
      @DontKnowDontCare6.9 4 місяці тому

      "Oscar Wilde sent to prison for charges of indecency and sodomy."
      -news article, May 25, 1895

    • @AustinLaNoue
      @AustinLaNoue 3 місяці тому +1

      Any excuse to use their rotary tool, apparently.

  • @hoodiedee4828
    @hoodiedee4828 8 місяців тому +3

    It looks great and I love what you created out of the wood. You will always have Art critics who don't like something for one reason or another. Have a blessed day and don't forget to Enjoy Life. from Bridgeport Connecticut.

  • @LarryMatthews-f8d
    @LarryMatthews-f8d 29 днів тому +2

    It's a beautiful work of art; wood salvaged from a fire turned into a flower pot/Urn styled beautiful piece of art that could fetch 100s or even 1000s of dollars. Thank you for sharing this video.

  • @jamiekatz7591
    @jamiekatz7591 2 місяці тому +10

    Everyone has an opinion, but I too didn't care for the piece after the burrowing tool hit it. It has a nice shape and someone will find a purpose for it. I do appreciate the work that went into it!

  • @studbaker1
    @studbaker1 11 місяців тому +2

    Mesmerizing indeed. During the process kept wondering what would be the outcome. Shockingly Excellent!

  • @danielharman572
    @danielharman572 4 місяці тому +8

    The artist found the inner beauty of the wood and manifested the finished product. Quite literally a work of art.

    • @davidgoldman6913
      @davidgoldman6913 Місяць тому

      Some comments think the Artist would find buried treasure in the stump, not the "WORK OF ART... TREASURE!!!" 👌🏾✌️🤛🏻

  • @willhenderson3602
    @willhenderson3602 Рік тому +12

    That is art in the eyes of one who Does it. That is absolutely beautiful.

    • @everettwalker9048
      @everettwalker9048 5 місяців тому +1

      de gustabus non est disputandum ...pulchritudo in oculis aspicientis ita est deformis... but SOME Ugly goes straight to the bone

  • @Mike-hb4pc
    @Mike-hb4pc Рік тому +12

    Umm, what exactly is it supposed to be? I too think you should have left the black burnt color. Would have been a nice contrast.

  • @2222...
    @2222... 6 місяців тому +1

    Glad you shown us what you found inside - amazing art !

  • @karlphilipp9273
    @karlphilipp9273 Рік тому +151

    So I watched the whole video. where was the shocking thing you found inside? Bunch of BS.

    • @russell-di8js
      @russell-di8js 8 місяців тому +16

      Thanks for re-affirming what i thought, yep BS!!

    • @perverie
      @perverie 7 місяців тому +3

      Yes what SHOCKING you found Ah ah ah

    • @FloranteGabriel
      @FloranteGabriel 7 місяців тому +5

      No shocking! It's just for fun!.He said shocking to trigger curiousity for you to click.

    • @elizabethgaspodnetich4322
      @elizabethgaspodnetich4322 7 місяців тому +9

      I think you missed the point. Look what he found inside a piece of burnt wood, a beautiful piece of art!!!

    • @2222...
      @2222... 6 місяців тому +3

      @@elizabethgaspodnetich4322 indeed, you beat me to it :)

  • @juliebiggerbear7300
    @juliebiggerbear7300 Місяць тому +2

    Every artist interprets things in their own way.
    I was sad to see the burned parts taken out, especially in such a haphazard way, but as long as it brings you and whoever wants it joy, that’s what matters.

  • @RobertJones-d1x
    @RobertJones-d1x 7 днів тому

    I find this a beautiful creation❤🎉😊

  • @lindaholt1610
    @lindaholt1610 3 місяці тому +2

    I'm not sure what's up with all the burnt wood lovers, but this piece turned out more interesting, unique, and beautiful than if the wood had been perfect. Its takes a true artist's eye, imagination, and creativity to see a beautiful, one-of-a-kind vase in that hunk of gorgeous (apparently, to some) burnt wood.

  • @Elizabeth-mp6tr
    @Elizabeth-mp6tr Місяць тому +1

    I find it extremely amazing that a burned tree trunk is still very beautiful wood underneath.

  • @jokeith1722
    @jokeith1722 Рік тому +11

    It is great. So what was shocking? Who gives a crap. You made a very beautiful piece of art and if others can't see it, it's their problem. Keep up the inspiration!😍

  • @jericox2980
    @jericox2980 11 місяців тому +3

    Absolutely gorgeous! Love it!

  • @malapanchoosingh9693
    @malapanchoosingh9693 Рік тому +11

    Love woodworking. That’s a beautiful piece to cherish ❤

  • @johnlocher5297
    @johnlocher5297 10 місяців тому +11

    Liked it a lot more with the natural inclusions and burn marks. I understand cleaning them up a bit, but drilling all the round holes in it took a lovely natural work to a much lesser level of beauty and art.

  • @dannettepeters1507
    @dannettepeters1507 11 місяців тому +2

    Can not say I am shocked by what you found, but very beautiful just the same!

  • @jorgettearthur2447
    @jorgettearthur2447 4 місяці тому +1

    Absolutely gorgeous what a beautiful piece

  • @carolynwatts2942
    @carolynwatts2942 11 місяців тому +11

    Beautiful work. Great Design on the Log.❤

  • @tee4319
    @tee4319 Рік тому +18

    Beautiful "YES A PIECE OF ART"! Don't listen to the negative comments! Stunning 😍 👍

  • @jshb9793
    @jshb9793 Рік тому +37

    That is a Masterpiece. It was hidden inside all along, and you coaxed it out of there. Amazing work!

  • @JerryDillon-r3x
    @JerryDillon-r3x 7 місяців тому +1

    WOW!!!!😲😲😲 ANOTHER FANTASTIC PIECE OF ART!!!!👍👍👍👏👏👏😁😁😁

  • @kathybyers398
    @kathybyers398 11 місяців тому +4

    May I ask the species of tree this was? That yellow wood reminds me of old furniture of my grandmother's. Maple? It's fascinating watching you transform it into something beautiful. Although the original piece was beautiful, too.

  • @deecooper1567
    @deecooper1567 6 місяців тому +1

    It turned out beautiful 🤩 Would love to own this piece for it’s uniqueness 👵🏻👩‍🌾❣️

  • @qapla
    @qapla Рік тому +23

    The finished piece looks good. I would have been fine with the black-burn in those hollows but this way looks good too. However, I kept waiting for the live electric cord or some other metal/drastic object to be uncovered ... I did not see anything that would have shocked me inside this piece of wood. While the turning video was good - the title was total click-bait!

  • @emmsue1053
    @emmsue1053 8 місяців тому +11

    No idea why people are complaining about the burned bits, you left exactly what was needed!! Its stunning, thanks for posting & for saving a beautiful piece wood...

    • @barryalday2328
      @barryalday2328 4 місяці тому +1

      Wow. Looks like a cool lamp base. ❤❤❤

  • @teresapowers2375
    @teresapowers2375 2 місяці тому +5

    Soooo, inside the wood stump, you were shocked to find wood??

    • @MrDoyle07
      @MrDoyle07 17 днів тому

      I’m coming rapidly to a place where I will no longer click crap that has any variation of “shock” in the title. It is always a lie if it doesn’t involve electricity or a neurological disorder anyway.

  • @GanjaLady
    @GanjaLady 11 місяців тому +2

    It looks very beautiful and natural ❤

  • @patriciajrs46
    @patriciajrs46 Місяць тому +1

    What made you decide that a burned chunk was the one to use?
    I think you're fairly resourceful and adept at woodwork.

  • @linetteguss306
    @linetteguss306 Рік тому +15

    Why did you take out the burnt parts? They were gorgeous on there. Gave it character. 😢

    • @carriebryan1211
      @carriebryan1211 8 місяців тому +1

      Speaking as a maker of things to sell, I would assume that he knows what his customer base likes, and he fashioned this piece accordingly. Art for art's sake is wonderful, but it seldom pays the rent.

  • @georgettelevesque277
    @georgettelevesque277 2 місяці тому

    Beautiful piece by an excellent artist..

  • @nicolevancoevorden8723
    @nicolevancoevorden8723 Місяць тому +2

    I LOVE WHAT HE DOES
    IT'S ART

  • @joschlater4323
    @joschlater4323 Місяць тому +1

    Very nice piece!

  • @possumawesomepossum1795
    @possumawesomepossum1795 8 місяців тому +5

    Amazing! No need for the clickbait title though. Just upsets people. But I understand the temptation because you get more views and make more money but people don’t like it (obviously). But still a very cool piece! God bless.

  • @CONfusion2021
    @CONfusion2021 9 місяців тому +3

    Could've done so much with this, the black contrasted so well and looked even nicer when sanded and you could have used colored resin to fill in the spaces to make a proper urn at least. What a waste of perfectly beautiful lumber, do better in the future.

  • @teri-lynnbennett2456
    @teri-lynnbennett2456 Місяць тому +1

    Att is so good! Thank you I wish I could do this art!

  • @elsietan5262
    @elsietan5262 8 місяців тому +2

    You have God's gift, you are born talented person, excellent job😊

  • @dallasquinby2209
    @dallasquinby2209 Рік тому +3

    It still turned out gorgeous though your quite an artistic man

  • @redresearchanalyst
    @redresearchanalyst 2 місяці тому +1

    I thought you were going to fill in the blank spaces with a cool colored resin, then finish off the turning for a smooth surface, bored out inside like an urn. I could see how there would be a see-thru section from the inside in one spot. Do you plan on doing more with this piece, a part 2 maybe?

  • @gevans3937
    @gevans3937 2 місяці тому +1

    Be careful for any spikes or ceramic environmentalists hammered into trees. PS ignore the negative comments you are very talented.

  • @wesleyc1694
    @wesleyc1694 5 місяців тому +1

    My husband is a master craftsman furniture builder … he bought wood in pa and found a civil war musket ball in a piece of wood … he left it there and built the drawer

  • @chetcarman3530
    @chetcarman3530 Рік тому +7

    The difference between craft and art is knowing when to stop. This craftsman didn't know when it was done. By a long way...

  • @Rod-w1j
    @Rod-w1j 8 місяців тому +4

    16 min of my life I'll never get back!

  • @steelandtreeE407
    @steelandtreeE407 8 місяців тому +3

    With my woodworking, I don't use any new wood. All reclaimed, salvage, and sawmill scrap. I don't take out any flaws or imperfections in the wood, I do my best to bring them out and accent them. I would have left the black from the burn, just use a brush to remove any loose char or dust. Shellac would have brought all the colors out.

  • @connienv
    @connienv 11 місяців тому +1

    Absolutely gorgeous nature is always amazing with its natural beauty

  • @hankhamner3671
    @hankhamner3671 Рік тому +4

    So, what did you find inside that justified your teaser?

  • @JohnSmith-tv5ep
    @JohnSmith-tv5ep Рік тому +3

    What you found was people that watched your video, good work on that part ! Video 'wood' have been spectacular had you made a lamp?...
    Vase?.. Plant pedestal?
    Anyway, you accomplished a view.

  • @pblaschke
    @pblaschke 8 місяців тому +1

    Beautiful...! You made that look too easy.!

  • @kimkluth988
    @kimkluth988 3 місяці тому +1

    You do as great job!!!! It’s beautiful

  • @janspeer7924
    @janspeer7924 9 місяців тому +2

    What can it be used for? Decoration?

  • @patbrain913
    @patbrain913 3 місяці тому +1

    Love it, so beautiful.

  • @FloranteGabriel
    @FloranteGabriel 8 місяців тому +2

    I enjoyed watching the video...😊

  • @ValioMadre7
    @ValioMadre7 11 місяців тому +1

    Awesome results. Thanks for sharing.

  • @williamdavis7432
    @williamdavis7432 Місяць тому +2

    Very nice discovery! Bravo!

  • @lorrainemjavorsky6140
    @lorrainemjavorsky6140 11 місяців тому +1

    That is beautiful! Would make for a really cool lamp stand!

  • @walterallen4069
    @walterallen4069 3 місяці тому +1

    It looks like the world's largest doorstop or the rare Grecian mulch amphora. Not only a conversation piece, but a conversation stopper. Definitely a curiosity.

  • @HannaPhillips-q7r
    @HannaPhillips-q7r 9 місяців тому +1

    Good work love it man God bless you

  • @brianegendorf2023
    @brianegendorf2023 Рік тому +4

    Given the cracks burnt look of the vase, I thought I would have gone for an over all darker, gothic looking color scheme. This could have been a horror movie prop if done right. I feel like this should have looked like the vase of some dark spirit or evil demon..

  • @michaelpogue1968
    @michaelpogue1968 Рік тому +16

    That which you "found" inside the burnt wood was your genius. A burnt stump turned (no joke intended) into a truly exquisite piece of art. The author of the "click bait" comment should be pitied; no soul attuned to beauty. His loss.

  • @MerrySalas
    @MerrySalas 6 місяців тому +1

    Very beautiful!❤🎉😊

  • @barryjackson5407
    @barryjackson5407 Рік тому +2

    Whats the reason for burning the wood initially?

  • @valeriewilleto5583
    @valeriewilleto5583 5 місяців тому +1

    Beautiful piece!

  • @joocy69
    @joocy69 6 місяців тому +1

    Pefectly imperfect in my opinion. 😊

  • @juliejohnson8008
    @juliejohnson8008 4 місяці тому +1

    I agree with what everyone is saying about the gouge marks/grinding out the beautiful black char character kinda ruined it for me. But my real question is why didn't you create some kind of hollow inside to make it at least appear to be a usable vase?

  • @DreamsOfFinland
    @DreamsOfFinland 5 місяців тому

    holy cow, what fun & beautiful outcome!

  • @euansmith3699
    @euansmith3699 18 днів тому +1

    This is the largest scale dentistry video I've seen.

  • @butchbinion1560
    @butchbinion1560 5 місяців тому +1

    Thanks, very kool. ✌🏻👊🏼

  • @normawingo5116
    @normawingo5116 Рік тому +1

    Now it will still stand and be beautiful for many more years.
    It’s cool that you saw that inside a burned piece of wood, because the rest of the world would throw it back in the fire, but NOT YOU. How cool is that!

  • @rohmatbubut-um4ug
    @rohmatbubut-um4ug Місяць тому +1

    Kalau ini kayu nangka pisau nya pasti tidak sembarangan ini saya tertarik untuk membuat pisau seperti ini dan cara membuat vas bunga yang cantik hingga bisa di tonton banyak orang , terimakasih atas ber baginya om 🙏👍 salam sehat dan sukses selalu ya

  • @Oh_Hell_No_6969
    @Oh_Hell_No_6969 3 місяці тому +1

    That the tree piece DIDN’T go all the way through from being Burnt? I personally think it turned out beautiful!

  • @ANious-co8py
    @ANious-co8py Рік тому +14

    I can see the voids being filled with epoxy to really enjoy that beautiful piece of wood…

    • @fastjazz
      @fastjazz 5 місяців тому

      Eh, that's what 9 out every 10 would do.,.

  • @eadiesharp7725
    @eadiesharp7725 8 місяців тому +3

    I loved the piece before it was shaped into is final artwork! The wood beforehand was strikingly beautiful! I was very happy with the final result as it shows that being damaged & still beautiful, doesnt mean you stop evolving. Great work! 💞

  • @jenniferszendi9519
    @jenniferszendi9519 11 місяців тому +11

    It was perfect in its free form. Now it’s just startlingly grotesque. Such a shame. 🌷

  • @rebeccastratton4114
    @rebeccastratton4114 Рік тому +1

    Artifact found in this burned wood. Stunning!

  • @Chatty_crafter
    @Chatty_crafter 6 місяців тому +2

    Oh wow, what an amazing piece. I absolutely love it.

  • @lenmullin3216
    @lenmullin3216 Рік тому +5

    I'm sitting here wondering why, you never turned or drilled the center out? To me, it doesn't look completed, it looks like the turner was either afraid or not confident enough in their turning abilities. As it is, it looks like it isn't finished!

  • @tedrichards683
    @tedrichards683 2 місяці тому +1

    While most viewers are flaming what was done to this piece, i happen to like it Sure things could have been done differently but the woodworker envisioned a different end result, so it's artist interpretation. As for the title of this video, it's only a play on words. What was inside was the creation, a vase, a lamp base etc. That is what was inside this particular chunk of wood in the end.

  • @margaretmartin9204
    @margaretmartin9204 7 місяців тому +3

    It's amazing watching a craftsman at work turning a burned piece of wood into a beautiful object

  • @pamb.7753
    @pamb.7753 9 місяців тому +1

    Beautiful. At one point it reminded me of going to the dentist. Ha. Glad I watched.

  • @LoreliFister
    @LoreliFister Рік тому +4

    So what kind of wood is that?

  • @davidgoldman6913
    @davidgoldman6913 Місяць тому +1

    "WOOD'VE L👀KED GREAT" filled in w/resin, & made into a CONGO DRUM... BABALOO!!! 👍🏼👌🏾✌️

  • @wishgodgirl1903
    @wishgodgirl1903 8 місяців тому +1

    I think it’s beautiful just the way you did it!

  • @dang6832
    @dang6832 9 місяців тому +4

    It looks nice, but what’s special about it? It’s not even hollowed out to use as a vase so it’s just a shelf place holder. I like wood pieces with a little more functionality than looks.