What you did is a great way to solve the problem after you strip the threads out. No power tools should be used on plastic thread bores. The right way to not strip them is to not screw them in wrong the first time you take them out and put them in again. You only have one shot to do this the right way. This only works from new. That screw creates the threads the first time it enters the bore. From then on the screw has to go back in and engage the thread exactly like it did the first time. By not doing this the screw bites into a new spot in the bore and starts a new set of threads and now you are crosscutting the original threads. The way you do it correctly is put the screw in the bore with your fingers and slowly turn the screw backwards and you will feel a click and the screw will drop right in where the thread starts. Now start tightening the screw with your fingers till you need the tool to finish just snugging and not over tightening. Believe me a lot of people have stripped out the air box on a lot of Volkswagens because of the same thing you guys are experiencing. This method was explained in a Volkswagen service bulletin like 15-20 years ago to ensure thread engagement when servicing Volkswagen engine covers that are air filter boxes. If you don't do it correctly the first time and every time after you will always start to cut new threads and ruin the bore. Sorry it was long winded and might seem tedious to some. This is true for all plastic bore threads that use the metal screw to set the threads in the bore the first time it is run into the bore.
Great job Champ👌 the problem with high-low screws in plastic is eventually they do strip the plastic self threads usually through only because of over tightening or re-cutting a new thread instead of finger starting the original cut thread. What you’ve done is ultimately better for the constant servicing elements. Well done 🤙
I would like to add that if anyone trying this, use the same designed threaded inserts (with opposite angled grooves). There are multiple designs each for different applications, like injection molding, and molded/sinked-in ones, etc. Great idea and tutorial! Love the 'chopped' flag on the wall✌🏻
Totally agree, but for the price I have no real complaints, quality over all is pretty good. The tech side could be improved a bit with Android Auto and some changes to the mapping system
Hello, thank you for your great videos. Recently I buy new 2023 CFMOTO 800MT Explore. And looking for on gas tank bag. Which one you are using and what you recommend. Thanks
Hey good vid, but the question I have to ask is how many times are you undoing to check your air filter? I had done my homework and fitted a 'Uni Filter'. I had run my MT800 to Cape York with hundreds & hundreds of k's of fine red bull dust. Being concerned of intake dust I removed it at 3 days in and found the first filter was dirty, but the second filter was extremely clean, so I continued my trip with not even worrying about dusting or chocking the engine. When I arrived back home I went into the airbox to change the air cleaner. Yes, it was due for a change, but this was an 'extreme use' case. The pre filter was dirty dirty, but the main filter was just starting to show signs of 'red' but still with no signs of worrying contamination. I would suggest that I would only check or undo the airbox as per normal usage when the k's for servicing are reached, not the time. (if this makes sense). Since returning I have done lot's of riding and will not even open the airbox, as I am 100% confident that the air cleaner is doing it's job. Now in saying this regardless of filter brands I will always smear a small amount of grease between the air filter to throttle body & airbox lid to box. To be honest I believe that 'Uni Filter' has nailed it. Summing up I think if I kept the 800 for 5yrs I probably will only open the airbox 5 times. Just giving my experience.
You need to clean your air filter when it is dirty. Time or Kay’s never come into the equation. If it’s dirty, clean it. If it’s clean, leave it be. It’s not complicated. Just saying.
Up until this week I didn't have a pre filter so it got fairly dirty. I am not sure how often I'll take it out but it saves the screw holes from stripping out and wearing out over time. It was just a small weekend project that I wanted to try and worked out well 😊
I have a DNA filter, I got it off thier website. It was shipped direct from Greece. www.dnafilters.com/en/product/motorcycle-filters/cf-moto/dna-2032/cfm-mts/cf-moto-800-mt-series-(22-23)-dna-air-filter-p-cf8e22-01
@@thelonewolf666 that was my first thought as I had them already but it would of meant grindong out a heap of plastic and making the job alot harder, this was was alot simpler with the same outcome. Also rivnuts would sit higher than the plasotc meaning it may not seal down as well or hold the filter properly.
What you did is a great way to solve the problem after you strip the threads out. No power tools should be used on plastic thread bores. The right way to not strip them is to not screw them in wrong the first time you take them out and put them in again. You only have one shot to do this the right way. This only works from new. That screw creates the threads the first time it enters the bore. From then on the screw has to go back in and engage the thread exactly like it did the first time. By not doing this the screw bites into a new spot in the bore and starts a new set of threads and now you are crosscutting the original threads. The way you do it correctly is put the screw in the bore with your fingers and slowly turn the screw backwards and you will feel a click and the screw will drop right in where the thread starts. Now start tightening the screw with your fingers till you need the tool to finish just snugging and not over tightening. Believe me a lot of people have stripped out the air box on a lot of Volkswagens because of the same thing you guys are experiencing. This method was explained in a Volkswagen service bulletin like 15-20 years ago to ensure thread engagement when servicing Volkswagen engine covers that are air filter boxes. If you don't do it correctly the first time and every time after you will always start to cut new threads and ruin the bore. Sorry it was long winded and might seem tedious to some. This is true for all plastic bore threads that use the metal screw to set the threads in the bore the first time it is run into the bore.
as easy as it looked, thanks for the idea, it worked well mate. Cheers stewart
Great idea. My Honda VTR uses the same method to hold the lid, just screws into plastic. I might do this.
Great job Champ👌 the problem with high-low screws in plastic is eventually they do strip the plastic self threads usually through only because of over tightening or re-cutting a new thread instead of finger starting the original cut thread.
What you’ve done is ultimately better for the constant servicing elements.
Well done 🤙
Yea definitely, I think I have undone the box 4-5 times and I stripped one already. I knew the others wouldn't be far behind
@@800Adventures that’s the sign of when it’s going to crap. You did good👌
@@stevesanelli90 yea definitely a worth while upgrade
Thanks for following 😊
Thanks for the tip . on my shopping list. Is it possible to buy some of your stickers please. They're cool
Love your videos mate keep up good work. My suggestion is lay a rag inside airbox incase debris or nuts drop in and keep a vac near drill bit
Thats another item I have to add to my tool kit, very useful. Thanks
I would like to add that if anyone trying this, use the same designed threaded inserts (with opposite angled grooves). There are multiple designs each for different applications, like injection molding, and molded/sinked-in ones, etc.
Great idea and tutorial! Love the 'chopped' flag on the wall✌🏻
Hello, which are the sizes of the brass inserts?
Good idea 👌🏻🇫🇷✌🏻
Overall, a great value bike but you can see where CF Moto had to make some choices to keep the price down.
Totally agree, but for the price I have no real complaints, quality over all is pretty good. The tech side could be improved a bit with Android Auto and some changes to the mapping system
@@800Adventures It has android auto no? Or do you mean the android auto experience could be improved. Cheers.
This is actuall a very clever idea!!! Thank you very much!!!
I was going to suggest rivnuts but that works
Nice! Want to know how much stuff o need to remove to access my ninja 1000sx airbox?
on the latest versys model, you’d have to remove the fuel tank.
Hello, thank you for your great videos. Recently I buy new 2023 CFMOTO 800MT Explore. And looking for on gas tank bag. Which one you are using and what you recommend. Thanks
I find the 800MT tank to be very curved and small on the top for a bag, i have tried a few in store but never liked how they fit so i havent got one
I have a Multistrada Enduro , aswell as my MT, it takes at least half an hour to get to the airbox on the multi.
I love how easy the airbox is to access in these bikes, they definitely thought out the placement well
Hello,
did you changed the spark plugs also? if yes, what brand and type?
tnx and BR
Na i havent yet as i have only done 15,000km, dont need them to be changed yet.
Greetings my friend. Which DNA filter are you using? The one for KTM 790 adv?
hi there!i m thinking to buy this bike over new transalp.how many miles you have so far?any issues?are you pleased so far?
With the extra air intake, did you remap the computer?
Na haven't done any remap work yet but I'm really considering it soon
Hey, i bye a Explore soon and i need the fueltank Cover.... 😊
can you write the link please?🎉
That’s just the stock tankpad what you can buy online from cfmoto i think.
@@geertwanten1841 link?
Just of Ali Express, heaps to choose from
Where did you get the little brass fixings from?
Just got a kit of Amazon
Hey good vid, but the question I have to ask is how many times are you undoing to check your air filter? I had done my homework and fitted a 'Uni Filter'. I had run my MT800 to Cape York with hundreds & hundreds of k's of fine red bull dust. Being concerned of intake dust I removed it at 3 days in and found the first filter was dirty, but the second filter was extremely clean, so I continued my trip with not even worrying about dusting or chocking the engine. When I arrived back home I went into the airbox to change the air cleaner. Yes, it was due for a change, but this was an 'extreme use' case. The pre filter was dirty dirty, but the main filter was just starting to show signs of 'red' but still with no signs of worrying contamination. I would suggest that I would only check or undo the airbox as per normal usage when the k's for servicing are reached, not the time. (if this makes sense). Since returning I have done lot's of riding and will not even open the airbox, as I am 100% confident that the air cleaner is doing it's job. Now in saying this regardless of filter brands I will always smear a small amount of grease between the air filter to throttle body & airbox lid to box. To be honest I believe that 'Uni Filter' has nailed it. Summing up I think if I kept the 800 for 5yrs I probably will only open the airbox 5 times. Just giving my experience.
Can you please put up a link to your unifilter?
You need to clean your air filter when it is dirty.
Time or Kay’s never come into the equation.
If it’s dirty, clean it.
If it’s clean, leave it be.
It’s not complicated.
Just saying.
Up until this week I didn't have a pre filter so it got fairly dirty. I am not sure how often I'll take it out but it saves the screw holes from stripping out and wearing out over time.
It was just a small weekend project that I wanted to try and worked out well 😊
I have a DNA filter, I got it off thier website. It was shipped direct from Greece.
www.dnafilters.com/en/product/motorcycle-filters/cf-moto/dna-2032/cfm-mts/cf-moto-800-mt-series-(22-23)-dna-air-filter-p-cf8e22-01
The side boxes supports in black are great! Did you color them yourself or you bought new ones of AliExpress ?
Just painted them myself
MT is brilliant for access of airfilter, spark plugs on the other hand...... right pain
Yeaaaa not looking forward to that but will jump that hurdle when i get to it.
nice work-- you could have just used rivnuts as well
@@thelonewolf666 that was my first thought as I had them already but it would of meant grindong out a heap of plastic and making the job alot harder, this was was alot simpler with the same outcome. Also rivnuts would sit higher than the plasotc meaning it may not seal down as well or hold the filter properly.
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