A Graphics Card NOT Made By Nvidia Or AMD?!?
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- Опубліковано 15 жов 2024
- Today we have a long look back 15 years to a time when AMD/ATI and Nvidia were not the only GPU makers. The Chaintech XGI Volari V3 is a budget graphics card from a start up GPU maker that folded almost as fast as it hit the market.
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I wasn't playing games on the PC back then, but I was destroying our family computer with Limewire downloads.
Limpbizkit.mp3.exe seems legit "clic" oh fuk me!
The ONLY reason I know anything at all about computers now is because I would routinely break the family PC, in fact I rememeber my mum putting a 9800 gtx in there because I had asked for one for Christmas and I had managed to fuck it within a week (or at least I was blamed for it lol)
Ah good 'ol Limewire, I remember that.
Edonkey all the way.
I like this style of video. It's different from what all other tech youtubers do but its a good different
oh my, there were tons in the 90s and early 2000s. S3,Trident,3DFX,ATI to name just a few
tseng labs
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i think "OTI" was one too
Don't forget Matrox. They made good cards back in the day.
I remember deciding if I should go with the Riva TNT or the Matrox Melenium card back in the day. I went with the TNT :)
I really dug my G400. Matrox had the best image quality at the time. They really fell off after the G400 though. I remember looking forward to the Parhelia. It got smoked by ATI and Nvidia. And that was that for Matrox's gaming cards.
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They still do. But for video and 2D. Mostly studios buy there now.
By the way Timmy Joe I think you're doing a great job the tech Tube scene is hard to break into you bring a exciting and unique View on Tech thank you for your hard work
I love the box art on those old gpus
also the days when GPUs themselves had a nice picture on them somewhere.
I wish I could get a current gen card with some nice artwork without it being custom
I used one to play world of warcraft at 1280x1024 for a while before upgrading to my first enthusiast class card ever, the ATI All-in-Wonder X800XT AGP at a cost of $299.99 + shipping.
The Volari Duo V8 Ultra is such a rare card nowadays only the most hardcore, dedicated collectors have one (I am not one of those fortunate ones). It's believed that the card was never actually widely available, being produced in an extremely limited quantity. Footage of the card in action here on UA-cam shows that it could not render 3D properly, or with comparable image quality to NVIDIA/ATI. Even still, performance was significantly worse, despite the two GPUs combined housing a purported 16 pipes compared to the competition's 8 pipes at most in 2003. Whether the hardware was any good, or the drivers just crippled it entirely, we may never know.
I had 2 of the duo v8. The first was doa. The 2nd artifacted Everytime I moved the mouse cursor. Both rma'd back to Newegg and ended up with the v8 ultra. The v8 ultra wasn't actually that back considering how much cheaper it was.
Sometimes if I'm having a bad day and i don't wana go to work, I think of your intro and yell "YEA, COMPUTER PARTS!!!" in my car on the way to work. It Usually helps lol.
I just got a shockwalmart has a msi gtx 1050ti, for only $744 dollars plus some change!. remember when you could buy cards for regular retail prices?.
xgi used to make video drivers for onboard video for server motherboards.
It is funny how stuff that we consider unplayable now FPS wise ran faster than Goldeneye did :D
Hahaha love the teletubby wallpaper 🤣🤣
link?
Im dropping you a like just because I cant imagine playing a game at 7 fps
Dj Chilio I can, because I used to own a 5450
xD When I was gaming on the PC waaaaay back, I didn't even know what a frame was and just thought that's how the game was xD. Played games like Command and Conquer Red Alert and Tiberium Sun, Tomb Raider 1, 2, 3, NFS 1, 2, 3 Hot Pursuit, Resident Evil 1 and 2 and of course Doom(just the first one, others didn't work). Good times, quality games xD
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Hej Zee.... same here!
I remember when I heard that FPS thingy that I want to investigate a bit, because I have no idea, just like you in what frames my games play way back then (and wonder why games looked so choppy (i did not even hear the term "lagging", not until way later).
I remember when I looked up my Unreal Tournament when I use a console to find FPS and then realizing it plays in low 12-16 FPS in action and even 20 when idling. And then saying to myself dum things like ... its good men its good --> my reasoning was: "hey; movies play in 24 FPS! This is not so much worse lol!" (it was so worse! soo much lagging - today i am spoiled by constant 144FPS !!)
Back when they had sexy anime girls on graphics card boxes.
I’m so glad you’re channel exists. You helped me realize that I don’t need the best of the best components to just play a game at 1080 at 50fps. I’d just like to tell you there’s still people out there that are still hesitant to make the jump from console to pc that really want to though. It’s just some are under the impression you’re gonna have to fork out three grand to get a decent gaming setup. I still think the could be bigger. And I think informing the strictly console users will let them make a more open minded decision for a gaming platform.
You randomly showed up on my recommended feed. Glad I clicked and discovered you. Great content and now subbed.
I used to have a rig with the XGI Volari V3. I remember only being able to play a game called Gunz: The Duel at a playable 20 fps. There actually was an upgraded driver version on the website itself. And I used to overclock it as well (worked with an old piece of OC software cannot remember the name of it).
Integrated those in the TronixGamerLite back in 2003-2004. We had a custom driver with integrator custom cooling and overclocking that improved the card by over 28% it's stock benches. It was a good price:value tradeoff. The cost was significantly lower than the Tronix GamerZ PC.
Ha still have a radeon 9000 in my room.
used it till i was 15 or something.
Didnt get an upgrade for my PC for a very long time since im 20 now :D
Matrox!
secondc0ming POWER VR
secondc0ming Parhelia 512
G400 was the King
Wapn Perfo G450 !
my mystique 220 was crazy . dont forget S3 with de virge -bi/tri linear filtering and perspective correction
Almost at 60k brother keep up the fantastic work!
My first ever GPU was a PCI Radeon 9250 as the crappy OEM PC I had at the time lacked an AGP Slot you could even see on the board it had a place for one but no physical slot soldered on :(
3DLabs in Guildford,UK made pro graphics cards. Their cards were used for high performance OpenGL in engineering and CAD software. Got bought by Creative Labs and then fade to dark
My gaming PC is a used server (at the time I could either buy 16GB RAM or a dual-xeon server with 24GB, 4x 10k SAS drives, etc for the same $300) that's about 6 years old and it still has am onboard GPU chip from a company you rarely hear about anymore: S3 Graphics.
Chaintech made a quite popular nvidia card back in the day. Trident was huge back in the day and made graphics chipsets, but if youare going that far back, you have to talk about Matrox, which was the graphics king of the hill back then with the Mystic and G400.
Currently bidding on an Emprex XGI V5 AGP card. I've never seen a card like that before and it'll make a nice test bench card for Windows 9x games.
Hey Timmy Joe, How do you get numbers to appear in the top left corner of your screen while running games?
TheLegendofMario Look up fraps or msi afterburner. Fraps basically shows the framerates but msi afterburner can be configured to display even more details such as frame times, cpu/gpu/ram usage and temps etc.
i had one of these cards back in the early 2000's that i bought at a computer show. it had 256mb of vram and only a single fan. i bought it to upgrade my radeon 128mb video card and it performed quite well i remember. i could play battlefield 1942 with max graphic setttings with the maximum number of bots loaded into the maps.
Shoulda tested older D3D games like Freelancer, Max Payne, some NFS to have a better picture of the performance of that thing y'know?. Just a thought.
Not even Half Life or Far Cry would have played nicely on a 9200SE. It's a refresh of an older, DX8 GPU. And Crysis is on a whole different level. It play DX8 games at a decent framerate though!
You deserve more subs bro. Love your videos keep up the good work!
I remember buying that ati 9200 when it came bundled with Will Rock back in 2003.
I remember a few years after this thing came out running across a fan forum that had people arguing how much better this card was than the S3 (an other Graphics card maker which held on into the 2000s) deltachrome (I think that was the card) because it rendered a ripped open dead guy in Doom 3 bright red instead of bright green (bar the fact both were wildly wrong)! I found it really funny.
Nice XGI man. I know a guy who owns two of the Volari Duo cards.
Episode 2 used an updated version of Source Engine, the same one used on the 360 and not on the original Half Life 2 game, it was also released in 2007, so your test isn't quite fair, the game was updated for next gen hardware at that point.
0:32 he's flipping us off
Well at least its not just me that saw that.
English and American flips in 3 seconds. Nice !!
Hahhaha
Hes flippin nvidia off
Loving the throwback hardware vids man!
If you need a solution to Windows XP and getting that up and running... I managed to make an ISO with Service Pack 3, and this fan-made PAE patch that basically makes PAE work as it was originally designed to do. So now, it could recognize and use up to 128GB of system RAM, for a 32-bit OS. I tried (repeatedly) to also slipstream the Unofficial Service Pack 4, to find that it tends to unfortunately break the process where it would ask or accept a CD Key. So for now I have it with just SP3 and the PAE patch to start, and a bigger version of the ISO that includes basically all the driver packs slip-streamed as well.
Definitely worth having, if you work with Windows XP still.
I had one of these. Used to play a lot of halo on it with a pentium 4 1.6 ghz "willamette" Processor. It was actually pretty fast for the $$ at the time. Half Life 2 was awesome, It ran great on this card. The recent updates probably botched performance.
I do have an original PC Quake game still in the wrapper Timmy. Let me know if you want it.
With the 9200 SE can you see if PCIe or AGP is faster with those cards?
Intel GMA 950 was better than the Volari V3
The S3 Chrome 540 GTX is actually the very last attempt at competing against AMD and nVidia and to be fair, it was not a bad attempt at all.
I haven't seen a chaintech card in forever. Good ol XGI. I remember thinking it was going to be a valid 3rd party since the VIA chrome cards were not meeting expectations and the Kyro cards didn't sell enough. Oh well.
New subscriber here. Love your work and personality man keep it up bro!
I bought a computer with a Chaintech motherboard back in 1998ish, and i built a P4 in 2003 with an ATI Radeon 9200 128 MB. Back in the day ATI pre AMD purchase were HQ'd in Toronto. Think that XGI card would have played Rise of Triad or early Harry Potter games or Lego games. XP I think was still supported by MS to accommodate supermarket checkouts and perhaps bank, machines until they upgraded. Probably using a Linux solution now, LOL or worse Win 7.
I really wish the graphics card industry is a lot more competitive. Imagine there are 8 companies in the same level as nvidia.
Kill Me or even 4
Hey thats one of those transitional motherboards that had both PCI-E and AGP.
i used to have a Kyro II graphics card, look that one up, also Nvidia bought out 3dfx in 2002?
7:12 is the point where you should stop to watch the video.
The motherboard is gigabyte 8i915me which has 915 chipset. 915 never supported agp bus. What you see is a gigabyte GEAR slot , which is compatible with ago 8x but has only 133mb/s bandwith, this is not even agp 2x close.
This was the first Graphics card I ever bought...I was so excited to get it and be able to play the original call of duty, and halo one and doom 3...Good times
it's actually possible to get more than 20fps, if you overclock the directx 8.0b compatible video card, even tightening the ram timings on that thing would give it a +20% performance increase, but don't go below 2.5CL or it will crash on even 240mhz ddr clocks, not to shabby for a single-slot video card. if you plan on using it then its quite an epic card to mess around with.
I can't lie, I like the telletubby wallpaper, very cool for the 90's ?
I've been reminiscing about these cards recently.. basically impossible to find the high end ones!
Hey, Timmy Joe, I have quite a few older GPUs if you would like them to make a video or videos on. I have an old pci tnt card, an FX 5200 and I think an older agp card. Also have some older pcie cards, a 6800, 7900gs, 8800gts 512(which I may want that one back) and a 9800gt single slot card that has artifacting. Lemme know if interested and how I can get them to u
Well well, the Volaris.... A couple guys in forums kept complaining about low performance on geforce cards, that would only work with default drivers from the CD that came with the box - downloaded drivers from the official Nvidia site wouldnt work. I thought they got the 64 bit weaker variants, such a common thing at that time, so I asked them to check AIDA... And boom, they were volaris not the FX5200 (which was bad by itslef already in 2005). They couldn't play 2005 games, only old titles...
I've been searching for the illusive last gpu from S3, the chrome 540 gtx, haven't found any online but it should perform much better than any of the other obscure gpu brands of the 2000s
Get S3 Chrome 540 gtx
Yeah damn those are hard as fuck to come by mate
I have an S3 GammaChrome s18 Pro 😉
I have an S3 ViRGe PCI and a motherboard with S3 Unichrome integrated graphics
I have one of these, with athlon 64 3700+ and 2gb ram. Can i run gta 5 at med/max settings?
Thank
Water Rat thats the joke
Back in the day I had a volari v5 ultra with 256 mb and actually still have it to this day but I wouldn’t say it was my best choice of purchases, I always had problems with the drivers and also it didn’t seem like it had much support like nvidea and ati. knowing what I know now I would have saved the 45 dollars and got something a little better.
would you like a nvidea Ion to compare that card to?
Still better than a GT 1030 DDR4
LunarAura i have 1030 gddr5 and runs gta v very well on low settings.
@@TR2000LT on low lel
@@zuccx99 yes on low above 120fps, i like a lot of fps. If you're ok with console 30fps then you can play on high 30fps.
@@TR2000LT I play gta v with high setting except shadow and AA off and get 40-50 fps sometime drop to 35fps with gt 1030 gddr5
@@deaneyle3940 What cpu you have?
I've had trident, 3dfx, matrox. I think the first card I bought was a diamond s3 verge.
0:30 Interesting choice of finger for counting NVIDIA, Mr. Linus Torvalds... 😀
There were a lot of good cards back then, Tseng, Matrox etc. :D Not to mention the legendary 3DFX!
I can neither confirm nor deny that I may or may not have the latest drivers for this card. (v1.13.23 released in 2010!)
I have a couple of those desktop cases... cool
flicks you off @ 0:33 lmao
Matrox is well known!!!!
Skymaster nope
@@tacheres4313 it WAS well known
Love these retro hardware episodes.
I thought it was going to be a 3Dfx card
I have a V5 agp card.. fan is dead but the card still works
Kinda wish they would of made it. We need more competiters on the graphics card floor.
I hope you have steam guard active cause you filmed yourself typing in your password. Just some insight though. Anyways, great video my dude.
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How about VIA S1 Graphics which still exists???
Test one of the 9200 SE's to see what kind of performance they had.
interesting, had the PCI 9200SE back then, would like to see that comparo
*Steam Ends XP and Vista Support on January 1st, 2019*
Oh damn I had no idea Steam was dropping XP SP2 support... I have XP running on my old AMD system for some more of a 'vintage' games(yeah like those 10-15 y/o games I own on CD). I also have an older Pentium running Win98, I only want one more running Win 3.1. I would love to get my hands on a clean(er/ish) 486 system (like an SX25 or a DX) and be happy with that.
To have the old feeling of 'Dang it, I need to make another boot disk for _XYZ_ (Like Tie Fighter or X-Wing and so many more) to only realize (edit) -your- you're OUT of black 3.5's.... you groan, sift through the pre-formatted-game-specific-boot-disks and choose to over right one lesser played disk.... to find out that disk actually frees up MORE memory than the one you were making for Tie Fighter... yeah good times :). Any way....
I smell a 60k video in the works ;)
"Maybe.... Nvidia?" (lifts middle finger). Gold.
I remember one video card that called Voodoo , or something like that...
You should've run something like Morrowind, Neverwinter Nights or even the original and not updated version of HL2. Maybe UT2K4. I had 9200SE back then and those are the games I was playing.
To be fair Farcry was very demanding and Ep2 runs on updated source engine which is not from this chip's era.
It would be cool to see a 2003 gaming PC vs the original Xbox especially Half Life 2
Remember Matrox G550 and Parhelia? What a disaster after the G400 series!
I actually own a Card from Around 2004/5 (idk) thats neither a ATI, Nvidia or A matrox Card that Could just play normal Games.
A 3Dlabs Wildcat Realizm 800. Bought it randomly in ebay because i just couldnt figure out what it was and i Wanted to try it.
That was my first real card. Back then played really good on my cyrix c2 CPU hehe.
The say on box that it has better 3dmark03 score than 9200se and mx4000, but back in the day my 9200se 128mb 64bit could play far cry at medium 25-30fps and half life 2 at medium 1024*768
Why do you not have more subs? Your vid's are awesome.
I just bought one of these with original box and working card for $2. And you beat me to my review. Great, now I can't do it.
oh my AGP! i have an old AGP Nvidia BFG edition card floating around somewhere lol
What a Glorious XP wallpaper
DDigs out my old Matrox cards.
Want to start with I usually like your videos man but you could have done a lot better here. Crysis and Half life two Episode 2 were released in Q3 2007... Farcry was released in 2004 but I had trouble running it on my 9600XT which came out a year before the game. Switching to my friends FX 5600 got farcry to run but I don't know at what FPS but, the two cards are nearly identical and same age. One thing to note here, the Radeon 9200 can't run either of these games either. These were AAA titles on super budget cards that were really just designed to play like the sims (MAYBE) and free up system resources. The V3 card was released a month before the 9200 in Q3 of 2003 and has 2 pixel shaders and 2 ROPs compared to the Radeon 9200 which had 4 of each. V3 was also running on slightly older OpenGL and and PixelShader protocols. Memory bandwidth, clock and size are all the same but the Radeon has a 250mhz core clock vs the V3 having a 200mhz core clock. The V3 also has 25 million transistors compared to the Radeon's 36 million. Why anybody expected the V3 to keep pace with the 9200 is beyond me. I remember seeing the card at a local shop and though it was slightly cheaper the specs didn't add up to my teenage brain so I went with the Radeon. This video is kind of all over the place and there's lots of info about these cards out there. Maybe research a little and do some testing before recording? Picking a few games from 2003 and early 2004 and testing them on the 9200 and the V3 would have been interesting. Picking a AAA game that was released 3 years after the low end card that you are testing was made seems very sloppy. I realize this is an older video and I haven't noticed these kinds of things in yours others. Unless you are outright trying to see how a card has held up, which, they tend to do a lot better now than they did then. Anyway keep up the good work, This has been the only dud in an otherwise good experience with your videos.
Last updated driver I found was 2005 for XP at techspot which is 1.13.04! How about trying to find some Russian hardware, they claim to have their own homebrew cpu and mainboard which they claim is really great!
The first thing that came to mind was voodoo but I was wrong
in one of my earlier pc i had a Matrox 550 64mb ( could be i remember the type wrong ! ) video card ,worked great with final fantasy 8 :D
Hoped to see S3 Graphics...
You should fire up some unreal tournement or quake for these old GPU videos
😏 plz ship card to Phils🐻 so that we can get a proper review, thx! 😄
My first 3d capable gpu was a diamond stealth 2000 s3/virge with i think 4 mb of ram. I remember being annoyed some games ran better for my brother because he had a voodoo and all the good games included 3dfx support 😝
My G34(opteron) server motherboard has Matrox G200eW Graphics... its pretty bad but it runs windows and its not nvidia, amd or intel...
0:31 - Timmy Joe channels Linus Torvalds:
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Will it run GTA6 in ultra at 4k?