The BEST way to MOUNT your HOTAS - MONSTERTECH Table Mount REVIEW
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- Опубліковано 15 вер 2024
- Taking a look at the HOTAS table & desk mounting system from MONSTERTECH
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Setting up mine today. See you in the star citizen universe
Just bought 2 Virpil Constellations and the Mongoose bases. Definitely need to get something line this. I was actually looking foe videos on how to build a custom desk for them, but this seems much better
Awesome. Gonna make one at work. Got some of this lying around. Never thought of this while brain storming today 😃
Great video but wanted to say people should definitely look at doing this themselves with 8040 aluminium profile. I bought an aluminium blade for my miter saw and it goes through it like a knife through butter. There are so many designs you can find online to copy and you can start cheap and build up later. For example i started with an Ikea chair 2 years ago and just moved over to a proper car seat for my rig.
For getting the t-slotnuts in, I recommend to take of the plate on top. It's 2 screws and you can slide the nuts in easily.
I have got my virpil stuff mounted on the monster tech chair with chai mounts. I can't say what is better as I can't compare, but they are a little annoying when not flying even though I have a quick release installed! But when in flying + VR the immersion is greater than ever!
I expected for mounts to be around £40/£50 and was shocked to find them all around the £100 mark
Its a small company i suppose it normal that way.
@@alexsp7086 Small or not, its a bit much for what it really is. Literally the only fabricated part in the entire setup is the mounting plate. Everything else is just cheap chinese T-slot extrusions (you can buy the stuff for like a dollar a foot), even the clamp is just a knockoff misumi toggle clamp. Pretty much everything MONSTERTECH sells is constructed this way.
Is it only me thinking buy some profile and construct it by myself? Its like 50 bucks for everything
Yep. I did. £45
Once again... amazing video!:D
Keep it up bud! I've been really enjoying your content :D
Greetings from Switzerland:)
Thanks buddy, I most certainly will, greetings from the UK 🇬🇧
Great video, it's more comfortable to operate this way
You could literally build this on quality plywood, make it look neat and use the same clamp and pay maybe 1/3th of the price of this things.
Have you used this with a centre mounted joystick? I’ve currently got a t16000m on one of these kinds of mounts and on the top of the mount I’ve got a 11.6” screen behind two cougar mfds….works great but the t16000m base makes it a little awkward to sit “around”. The narrower warbrd with virpil grip looks like it could be a lot easier to set up as centre mount.
I really don’t want to go down the route of mounting an extended grip to a chair
These seem nice but that's a tough pill to swallow at that price considering you can get universal mounts for like 30-40$ each.
You lost me at “excellent warthog Hotas” haha great video though, thank you
Given it’s 12 years old and more than usable today, yeah it is great. Not the best any more, but great.
@@EbonySeraphim that is a way to look at it, and I’m not even saying it’s wrong, but another way to look at is that it’s 12 years old and still has the same cheap/poorly designed gimbal it had at release.
I think it can be very very good if you replace that (I haven’t kept up, don’t know how cheap/easy it is to do), but I wouldn’t say the Hotas itself is excellent. It’s like a Ferrari with a lawnmower engine, looks amazing and high quality, but they cut corners on the single most important thing, yet kept the Ferrari price tag.
You could do a lot worse true, but at that price point you shouldn’t have to say “you can do a lot worse” to justify it. (This is all just imo, and admittedly it’s been a while since I kept up with his stuff.)
@@chocomilkfps1264 I’d separate “12 years old and same” from “How have Thrustmaster not decided to fix/upgrade this?” TM has a lot more product areas they cater to at other price points, so no they aren’t iterating on the Warthog HOTAS as quickly as say Virpil is with the Mongoos CM1-3 in 2 years.
In a sense it kind of sucks if just two years time you bought into CM1 or 2 and then it got improved on in a way you have to replace what you have.
Mostly though I think calling the gimbal “crappy” is the overstatement of the century. Many people have worn it down, many others have not. Some reviewers like the resistance and weight it has, others do not. I don’t know why so many have not realized it is a matter of opinion and TM clearly went with military modeling, “not trivial force to do anything.” You may not like it for gaming, but they did what they did. Feel free to use mods to change things to your liking?
Worn it a bit? It’s serviceable. Open it up and fix it. These, and others. are the principles that only 8+ years later competitors started doing respectably well with other HOTAS systems. But we’re stuck on “meh, the gimbal wasn’t quite right and had issues?”
If we were to examine the “GOAT” of HOTAS, it would either be the X52 or the TM Warthog. Just because there exists current offerings now that exceeds both of them, they’re still not goats until we see enough people using them for over a a couple years and really see what it’s like after some wear and understand that what they introduce to the industry is something everyone else after is expected to do and can’t seem to match for some time.
And as far as price point. A part of it was pandemic stuff. But honestly it says something that people were that confident in owning a TM Warthog even when aged. Mine is over years old, lightly used some repairs and one upgrade, and if someone else purchased from me I’m sure they’re good for at least 3-4 years unless they abuse it daily. Overpriced? Sure, but people do like peace of mind in how long something will last.
Right now what I see out there from Virpil and Winwing reviews is all speculation. Mind you, I’m switching my stuff over to Virpil on faith, but truly the oldest relevant reviews are a year. I noticed Winwing Orion throttle reviews speaking high praise to what seem to be a solid system; and less than a year or two later Orion2 is released fixing some issues noticed in less than a year of ownership by a small group of people. Warthog has had its issues (used to have a board component that died, mine did) but it probably took 2-3 years and a lot more market saturation to occur.
Given you can buy much better gear for a fraction of the price, I'd agree.
Great Video, It's good to know about Expandable gear.
Thanks for the insightful review. Surprisingly expensive for what it is. I suppose they realise they're not going to sell millions of these, as few of us have these high end controllers. I'm going to have a go at building something myself, which won't replicate this, but will probably be every bit as sturdy at perhaps a quarter of the price. Thanks again though
I actually thought the same and tried to just get the same materials they used and build it myself, but the price for the materials is like 75% of what you pay when you order their kits. And of course if you want to completely build it yourself you need at least some experience and you need to actually find all the parts. And this is not something every hardware store has.
I think their prices are pretty fair.
Please tell me how you got on if any of you build your own !
@@metaller1317 There is a point where you are essentially paying per pound for raw material on certain products. I would imagine this is one of those cases. People tend to forget that metals have raw value.
iwas about to buy it while watching your review .. but DHL Express: €69.00 is just a no-go!
Make them. Seriously.
As far as I can see, the only big difference between those and their competitors is that they're about double the price.
Don't underestimate the sturdiness. ;)
Thank you for making us aware of these products.
i don't have a deep pocket, but I am addicted to Star Citizen since 10 years and I think i need this too 😄
Make it dude. Anyone with basic skills can.
It's just 40x80mm extrusion, M8 tslot hardware, inline toggle clamps and a 4mm aluminium plate.
Using good quality parts you can make a set for less than £80. Use cheap and you'll do it for £30 per mount.
@@literate-asideI have bought it already 😂💰
Is that an IKEA desk? Looking at one right now that looks very much like yours. Curious how it held up to those clamps?
SOLD. Need this badly
Couldnt you just rip the end caps off to get the t-nuts and allen key in there?
When you get the parts the end caps are not already put in, so you can easily put the nuts in first and put the end caps in when everything else is done
Thanks very much for posting this, I only have one concern that when moving the stick forward does it not hit the desk or the mount?
look at 2:52 and you can see that it doesn't. I think this would have been in the design requirements.
Thanks for introducing me to Monstertech. Quick question with ergonomics though, is it more comfortable for the joystick to be at the right or at the middle?
most newer modern jet fighters have gone to side stick, for whatever thats worth. F-16, F-22, F-35 are all stick on the right side console instead of between the legs.
i have in an L shape desk sitting in the mid of the L, reckon it could attach in an angle?
not sure if im being clear lol
this is quite good but far from the best way :D a small rail system under the table is much better. you can simply slide the two elements back and forth and directly run the cables in a guide. and the table remains free of any clamps ;)
Best option. But you should make such system by yourself. This is main problem.
Monstertech makes that too.
On my desk a rail wouldn't work because of drawers, so your best is not everyone else's best way. I went with Predator desk clamp and have made shelf the same thickness as my desk and clamp them there when not in use. I really think the best way is a dedicated sim pit, but I don't have the room.
Looking at pulling the trigger on these, how much was import tax for the UK?
Won’t the joystick touch the mount in-front of it if I move the joystick all the way forward?
Can you move the warbird more inward towards the screen or are these fixed bolts for the horizontal adjustment?
Based on the design it seems like there is ruffly 1"-2.5cm of space left to move it toward his monitor.
very nice review, thanks from north africa +1sub
They are mad expensive when it comes to shipping almost the same price as the product
Their website suxs. Thanks for sharing 🙃🙃👍🏻👍🏻
Nice Video. I'm researching the best mount to purchase. Is this your recommendation or is there another I should consider? Appreciate your feedback.
Predator Mount dude. The fact author did not even answer say a lot about transparency. The BEST or so called are not afraid of competition, quite the opposite. An extremely satisfied customer of PM... just to say.
And when you stop flying, do you have enough place to play with keyboard & mouse or do you have to move away the brackets/joystick???
I move them away
@@VirtualRealityPilot Ok, I have the same problem and find it a bit complicated to move them every time away. But yeah thats life, hehe
Huh? You just unlatch the toggle, that's it?
Am I the only one who needs angled mounting which MT doesn't offer on most mounts?
Cheers boss
I really don't understand why the elbow is above the seat arm rest in this video? Shouldn't the arm pivoting on a fixed point?
im trying to figure out the ergonomics as well, I tried a fixed pivot point but that doesnt seem to work when I need to move the stick all the way backwards or fowards.
@@viewer54322 Me I'm on center mount finally. Ikea chair is long enough so the stick is between my legs, throttle on the side though.
What length and size bolts for this? I need 8 of them.
Doesn't use bolts. Uses a knock off inline toggle clamp, 40x80mm extrusion and some M8 t-slot hardware.
It's all off the shelf apart from the plate.
Does it work with vkd
Swartz what?
Can't you just knock one together with a couple of old pallets ?
The times they are a' changing
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PS just looked at their website !! The prices are absolutely disgusting, a bit of metal and a couple of screws.
Nice features but personally think its a little overpriced for what it is
Not cheap, but sturdy af. ;)
so if you need to quickly switch from hotas to mouse and keyboard, lets say in star citizen and you need to get them out of the way for you to move in, is that something that can be done quickly? Only video I've seen where someone made something like it is this one ua-cam.com/video/VWXf6EsfZ4c/v-deo.html from Skippy, wish some company would build something like this
very helpful and all but swarts WHAT?
00:22 bigger than who 🤨
very over priced
Not a all. MT products are quite a bit more stable than the equipment you'd find on Amazon or other products with a similar focus.
You pay for Quality.. After going cheap, I’d gladly pay for quality. Went Virpil mounts instead of Mondtertech.
Even the Thrustmaster Warthog isn’t all that great. Now that HOTAS is overpriced.. Virpil HOTAS and Stick options / variety blows the Thrustmaster Warthog away.
Was and still am a fan of the Thrustmaster Warthog Hotas.. But, after going Virpil Hotas it really exposed Thrustmaster via quality, etc.
@@MCP2002foxx mounts are practically equal. seriously all you're really paying for is a few aluminium profiles. Its not even Amazon alternatives when you can get your own mount machined for half the price of monstertech
@@cockatoofan Getting your own stuff measured and machined can take quite a bit of time. I have monstertech table mounts but I dont use them any more (I built a monstertech full pit). I originally got the mts mounts along with the mts chair. Foxx mounts are ok but I got everything together so it was easier logistically. I've also seen a few reports of Foxx mounts being a little less stable.
@@MCP2002 sure its a little time, but then again unless you live in Germany waiting for the monstertech mounts itself takes time. I'm pretty confident almost everyone has a machining shop close-ish and alu profiles can be gotten from a hardware store. In either case its a matter of how you look at time I suppose. I only have time to really fly on weekends so I'd rather spend Saturday getting the mount done and Sunday flying than wait for the mounts to arrive hopefully for next Saturday.
I just got myself. The winwing Orion 2 MAX F-18 TWCS/ F-16EX Stick came with the max but it came with additional programmable axis. I've heard of VirP & at the time let's say I got a little buyers remorse. I love the f-18 and we'll get the landing and also the ordinance setup attack mod. I was really going to go whole hog and get the dash the Top Gun dashboard but there's another 1K USD 🫣 I seen the table mount but I was so concerned about the weight of the t-base and the size. Also the throttle being a rocker the stroke and hitting my knuckles on that mount. VirPil has a standard programmable small base and you can add as many as you wish to them. At the time I really didn't think it threw. I could have programmed the VIRP mods the same way as the f- 18. WW set up the same and tagged the buttons as to what they would be. Of course! After a certain amount of flight time and also of course mapping each aircraft as similar as possible so you don't have to for the right switch then you end up grabbing the mouse and doing it yourself in the cockpit. But about the mount I almost got it. But instead I got the marada flight chair with the mount for left right and center. It is a serious cost of $350 US all together. The desk gaming center I purchased. Also, I just went through 2K in the last 30 days but the gaming desk did not or is not working out. I'm inside of a V on a corner desk with the main 32-in SCPEC tre monitor and I have two more coming, but it seems like the center is a little too far away for my eyes. I'm an Old Navy rotorhead 90 to 96 CVN 67 My eyes seem to be failing me. I have the zoom but at that distance is still seems far away. I think I should have gave myself more time and patience. I'm 55 years old. My boys are in their mid 30s and disabled I am. I saw all the eye candy lol and started ordering. Many were gifts. Wonderful gifts. I did see you work. The clamp mount. It seem to be really sturdy. I thought it would have some wiggle to it. Here in the US it goes for $85 and there is so many other competitors of the same. I thought if I use that I would have to add to the bottom of the desk mount for some extra support and a metal plate to the top not to mess up the carbon fiber top. But I did talk to virpil and I'm going to get my helo set up through them. I believe they're going to send it to me to evaluate being a Hilo pilot military and civilian. I love the idea and I believe I'm going to try the desk mounts and see what happens. I've also seen the flight chair that is mounted in the same way where you can add unlimited and build your own flight cockpit. Monitor arrays X3 for the surround experience. Also you can mount speakers but the virpil control unit. Although there are a couple that differ, they have a main line that you just add to each other to add more inputs and I believe those small units may have 10 to 15 inputs per mod. I have over 140 with WW at 500 plus shipping $600. That's a lot. Very good video. I'm going to check out some more when I get some more time. Thank you for your time. Sorry for the bio. Deeply appreciate your view. Honest you on this product. I wish you well on your journey. May it be filled with joy and laughter and progress. God bless 🕊️
I got them and I'm not that impressed. Not because of the build quality, but the design is not ergonomic at all. Never ever, believe the hypo out there. Most stuff is infomercials, which is why I posted here instead of "other" channels.
The Virpil Mounts are cheaper and 100000 times better and more stable. Try those. Plus they look better.
lol almost 200 aud for one mount gtfo with that bullshit lads take a pic to a metal worker you can get 20 for that price
No this is not the BEST. This is a solid option but others are doing as good for cheaper. To name one: Predators Mount are excellent, very flexible option and cost less. On top the service is unprecedented, no company are coming close. Predator have the BEST service while producing as good options than Monstertech, lighter and as durable.
400 bucks yeah im good on that one...
Nice kit. Extraordinarily over priced.
40x80mm extrusion : £24.00
4mm plate : £10
2x inline clamp : £40
M8 hardware: £5
As an end user I can make a set of two for less than £80. Now imagine what it costs them.
:22 sus
WAY too expensive. 1000+ bucks ? sorry, no-
Sport what did bro say the N word
Ridiculously overpriced.
Thanks very much for posting this, I only have one concern that when moving the stick forward does it not hit the desk or the mount?