the original hank that you posit in your theory could want to live up to claim his birthright as Sovereign of the guild or surpass the role of the Sovereign to be a greater supervillain
Oh true, and not only that but there would never have been all the whacky venture stuff in his upbringing. Daresay he might be the best sovereign. However my main theory is on fried brain space boy, or the spiderman in cognito cuz its college. Like why is scarebear at college anyways?
Scare Bear is actually you. He's you from the future where the Revenge Society fucked something up that led to Hank being killed in action as Batman and consequently the Monarch rules as the Living God, so you came back to the past to save Hank and stop the Revenge Society.
Going off of the movie, Spoilers, id say its Hank himself. In the movie we see that Hanks bit characters are actually split personalities that can take over, as seen by them "taking" his pen then writing in his journal what they said. We see that he sees and interacts with them different. Hes starting to spiral and I think scare bear is him dealing with his darker emotions he usually buries. Hes at the revenge society because they messed with him or his family in some way in the past. The outfit is Hank doing his normal dress up and do goofy shit. Its probably not real blood stains but like him cutting open a juice box. As for when he gets knocked out, I think it was a personality that took over and "carried" him through the motions. The cashier with the chips doesn't see the bear just Hank with a bloody head. Scare bear stopped for chips because hes still connected to the main body and knows what it needs/wants and knows about the dorm because Hank does. Scare bear sends him ahead because its his own way of saying the main Hank has to deal with his dark stuff.
At sketchfest 2020 there was a venture bros panel, Jackson public was there, it was pretty much just them telling some stories and then a huge q&a, surprisingly no one asked about Scare Bear till the end (I had wanted to but I'm fuckin shy) but a woman asked who Scare Bear was and JP was like ...we did not build this charater to have some extravagant back story, the fact that everyone keeps asking we are definitely going to have to do something... this was at a time before the show was canceled so they were writing for the next season witch he said they were more than half way done...
The first scene with Scare Bear had me bursting out laughing. You had all of these "Villian of the Week" types, ones who are best at comic relief... then in the middle, for no reason, is this guy who's so over the top, he scares hardened villains, just by standing there... menacingly.
For the clone ages, I remeber reading a theory that it takes roughly 3ish months to finalize the slugs and get their memories downloaded. If you count the number of clones in Rusty's subconcious and figure in a 3 month delay for each its supposed to add up to about 3 years.
It's Venturestien, Hank gave him his Batman mask. His build fits and he just has pupils. Also Venturestien wasn't doing well in Puerto vallía he's probably wanted, so maybe he wanted to keep the fam safe and protect his identity?
Decent idea, I like the idea that batman is such a positive influence that the concept of "batman" is enough to motivate people to do good things, so far as to track hank down.
Bobbi St. Simone didn't take the original Dean and Hank. We know this because Myra knew the originals (she knows how old they're supposed to be) and their real mother was no longer in the picture. My theory as to why the clones are three years younger than the originals is that the boys first died when they were two. Doc clones them at that point and nine months later he decants two of the clones and has newborn babies.
I still do believe Scare Bear is actually a time traveling Hank, that the costume is just the result of him wearing it during a Halloween Party because he felt a connection with the person who helped him find out his GF was cheating on him. Suddenly Time begins to unravel with nobody fully knowing why except that it is paradox related. Hank, seeing himself in the scare bear costume, realizes he is the key to fixing this and jumps through a time anomaly or something resulting in him being uncontrollably thrown throughout time, appearing in various moments in time and inadvertently causing key events from just simply appearing in places or learning things he wouldn't have normally known about, to bumbling around and causing incidents like the movie night massacere. All the while Rusty desperately chases after hank in the time machine with Quiz Boy. Honestly that would make for the best finale to the entire Adventure Brothers as the rest of the cast has to fight off insurgents from different points in time. Who knows maybe Brock will finally be able to fight a cowboy riding a T.Rex like he always dreamed of.
Helper Model 2 (Red Helper) his organic bits are Rusty Clone parts. Then during Red Helper’s meeting with Dean we found out Rusty is a clone of himself. Great men must terrible things, I forget the line. But implies Jonas senior had killed Rusty and cloned him. It would explain his occasional lack of memories of past kid adventures. Also Rusty slouches like 6 inches for the last 30 years. Bet he’d been taller with more confidence.
sorry if there's a very obvious fact that would debunk this but, Hatred? Dude's got villain connections so he could have known about the Revenge Society auditions, he could have been keeping an eye on Doc during the party and he could have been watching out for Hank in the snowstorm in a way that would let Hank still feel like he has his independence, he also has some basic first aid training so he'd know how serious Hank's head injury was and he could have found out about Dean's business and thought Hank should know, Hatred at the hospital seems way too chill, I feel like Hatred would try to fight through to see Hank but he only offers up token resistance, maybe because he already knew Hank would be fine? I mean, it's not easy for a guy with a giant H/V tattooed on his face but the scare bear costume would do it.
Honestly that seems really plausible to me, and seems like something the writers might actually do (they love their plot twists after all). In the past I've seen the theory that it was hank from the future (hence the mustached hank looking guy right at the end) but your theory about it being the original hank seems possible. If the movie comes out and you we're right, I'll be thinking of you lol
I still think The Scare Bear has to be Jared the knock off Spider-Dude. He's probably unhinged from all the disrespect he's received from society and once he saw Serena and Deen, he figured ' somebodies gotta tell him'. Plus, whats the best way to get back at an EX than exposing them?Take that Serena!
Rocco. It's Rocco. Who else would know of Sireena's whereabouts? He ensures Hank's safety but doesn't care enough to patch him up. His build is right, his character isn't involved with time travel, picking sides, or returning from the dead, in fact he may be recently unemployed and freelancing. He knows what she's been doing behind Hank's back and revealing it to him in such a dramatic way would be the ultimate payback/gotchya
Also, everyone wants to talk about the mystery of Scare Bear and no one wants to talk about the potential Orb style mystery hidden in the show like the Rusty Venture Cartoon.
I like the theory of the monarch not actually being Rusty’s brother but a clone because couldn’t get the monarch’s mother pregnant the normal way let’s say she had no eggs so he used his experimental cloning vat of rusty and the monarch’s mother dna. If you go back to when dean talks to the doctor that lived in their back yard a lot of the things he mentions when examining dean a lot of the could be compared to the look/emotional swings of the monarch. Though I doubt they would go there being they only have a movie to wrap what they want to wrap up.
Ben the dude who lives in the that old house with helper model 2 (red helper) goes through a clone defect checklist on Dean while Dean ‘a waking up and he specifically says no sign of the “scientific name” for huge eyebrows. Bigass Eyebrows are a clone defect.
Jonas senior had “powerful science” when he said he’d help the monarchs dad. Which we all assumed was his junk, but now he meant cloning. Jonas Tested early clone tech with his friend’s kid first to work out the defects. Hence Monarch has the clone defect of Bigass Eyebrows.
@@deprive-999x "What does Tito mean in Spanish slang? an uncle an uncle; the brother of either parent. a male cousin of either parent. an affectionate or honorific term for a man of an older generation than oneself."
Scare bear is Hank. He used Grover Cleveland's time machine to go back in time a few years. He has been living in New York to avoid meeting his past self, he is freaked out that he might mess up the timeline. Hank was there at the Revenge Society to meet Dean and not audition. He wanted to talk to him but he screwed that up by hyperventilating in the costume. The reason for the bear costume is that he needed to avoid being seen by anyone who recognize him. Hank visited the college and steals a bear costume from the mascot changing room to sneak away when Dean visits the college. The "blood" stains is actually pizza sauce. Dean got his old pizza delivery job to make a living and uses the costume to deliver pizzas to the revenge society meeting. The "bloody" knife is sauce from Hank carving up pizza for those waiting to be interviewed. Hank is just doing his classic costume crazy behavior. He ends up just socially engineering himself into the Guild and stays with them to prepare to Arch Dean. However after meeting the guild members and hanging out with them he reflects on his life and forgives Dean.
Scare Bear is Sergeant hatred. My theory is that after playing second fiddle to Brock he kinda crept back into being a villain but still cares about the ventures because they took him in when he got divorced. I think that he showed Hank that his gf was cheating because he knew how much pain princess tiny feet caused him when she cheated. Plus when we first see him he was in New York with Rusty
Well, as far as the boy's mother is concerned. the movie's post-credit scene answers that. But if there was a "bad batch" Dean that survived, why not a Hank one as well?
I remember Sovereign Bowie told once: "I am just a man who wanted to be someone else". I guess it has something to do with his shappeshif power but... couldn't be Hank who has surpased his custome powers and become a shapeshifter? Sovereign Bowie also said that Dean was the older brother so he was the Sovereign therefore Hank should be his heroic arch. The time machine was in the Guild so what if Hank arrived to the Guild using the time machine, took Bowie's form and tried to destroy the Guild from the inside but resulted injured in the lake so he can no longer shapeshif and uses the bear custome to hide his appareance. Showing the truth about Dean and his girlfriend to his former self is a way to preserve his future brother rivality. Just a guess XD
It could be just modern Hank as well, him carrying him to Deans could have just been a concussion dream from Hank. The other times could have been Hank in his darker persona.
Hank is also shown to be strangely competent at a lot of things. Not just as The Bat, but also as Hank, as seen in the episode where he easily deals with all of Hunter and Sphinx's distractions to try and keep him out of their hair. I could totally see him being Scare Bear. IMO, Scare Bear has to be either Hank or Dean. They seem to be setting Scare Bear up to be very important, and I just can't imagine it being anyone other then one of the Venture Bros.
I think the Killinger theory has some credence; between Hank and Dean, Hank is the one most likely to embrace the life of villainy, especially with his "Enrico Matassa" persona. Delivering Hank to Dean and Sirena may have been meant to motivate some desire for revenge or whatever to start him down that path of villainy, but Scare Bear does not seem that especially competent, and may have just totally disregarded the fact that Hank was obviously concussed, and not able to properly process what was happening. Scare Bear also shows up at points when Killinger would have an interest, like the formation of the Revenge Society; Scare Bear may have been his agent trying to help the RS without Killinger himself getting involved (somewhat aligning with his stance vs the Investors). Doom Factory may have been clients of Killinger as "new age" villains who take a more laid-back and enlightened approach to villainy, and that seems like something Killinger would facilitate. IDK, I just don't think it would be a lazy explaination, but I'm not invested in the theory either.
$5 says it's Jonas Venture Sr.'s brother--he's the only venture we haven't seen with a brother and is either trying to either stop or jump-start Hank + Dean turning into the next generation's Rusty + Monarch
Personally, I always had the feeling that Hank would eventually join the costumed life, on one side of the line or the other. (Probably villain, like you said its been foreshadowed multiple times.) And that Dean would either become his arch, following in Doc's foosteps but would actually be ethical. (If not sucsessful.) Or like you suggest, just not get involved with that lifestyle at all. Which is do think is more likely. God-DAMN I love this story!
Actually, if Hank became a villain and Dean got into science like his dad, it would make sense for Hank to arch Dean. The dynamic of them being brothers would be an amazing story for the Guild and OSI to follow and the two of them would not actually threaten each other, they's just be playing games like old times. Hank would get to be an antagonist and have all the adventures he could ever want with his brother, and Dean would be able to conduct his science research in relative peace since his 'arch-nemesis' wouldn't actually be trying to kill him, sabotage him or steal from him. Since Dean would have an assigned antagonist, he would be safe from other villains who would actually cause harm. It would be perfect for both of them.
I believe in the art book they already explained who scare bear was he was a ex member of that Legion of Doom art group who wanted to get revenge on them
The antagonist in Forecast Manufacturer, the head of the Peril Partnership, and he who plays Dive Bomb with 21 and The Monarch, his character is modelled after the original design of Brock's brother. From the Go Team Venture! mega-book, The Art and Making of, The Venture Bros. What is this comment, like 9 months later? Only crazy people like me are obsessed. (I think Scare Bear is a stalker of super scientists, or perhaps the Venture Bros)
Just one little thing here, not sure if it's significant. Brock is one of the only male characters in the show with clearly aqua eyes. As you said scarebear has black eyes. A note is that dermott has the same one eye squinted as scarebear and also is Hank's friend and would look over hank as a person who an outcast like him made a significant connection with. Also carries a knife like Brock because he idolizes Brock after the yard sale episode. Not an expert, just an analyst, do what you want with this information. Let me know what you think?
@@ClaymoreGamezRusty’s Day Camp, and I originally thought Brock, now you have me thinking Dermott. BUT, whoever it is, must be a time traveller, maybe OSI Dermott fixing the timeline behind Doc and Billy, the costume and lack of talking is to keep the timeline mostly intact, even if he’s going rogue to help his friend.
What about Ben, the geneticist from "A Very Venture Halloween?" He has an interest in the Venture Brothers, is suitably weird, has the correct body build, is independent of any theme or storyline, has his own resources, and doesn't need any extraneous explanation such as a time machine. Given a lack of evidence, data, or clues for a specific character to fill the role of Scare Bear, my vote is for Ben.
Guys I think I figured it out its all in the chips the brand is called el tito meaning uncle think about it it was so out of place for the scene even as a gag what does it do to move the story forward anyway thats something I just picked up on
Yeah, I gotta admit...this does raise some questions. But It's definately not JJ and the build doesn't fit Malcome. (Though the suit could be hiding it. With this is him trying to kickstart his nephew's own Villain career.)
Plot twist, Hank ends the movie a super scientist of his own right and we close on him inventing time travel. Hank has exactly the sort of, erm, creativity that today's super science lacks. Scare bear could be 21. Why was 21 wearing a bear suit you ask, because he's a nerd and nerds are weird.
Maybe its a Brok clone that isn't full developed. Then "our Brok" finds out he's not the original. He's the second clone except he's a prefect copy. Remember the sudden personality change in Brok from episode one on wards? That was the original.
Scare Bear is Brock Samson's sperated at birth twin brother. I've really got no idea but the "evil" twin idea has been used before in the series. Edit: no not the brother that was previously mentioned in the series.
7:16 the venture bros does indeed do lazy! we spent a long time wondering why then-Dr Girlfriend has such a gravelly voice... and in "home is where the hate is", we discover she's just a heavy smoker.
I personally think its going to be an anti-twist like the Orb being broken and Scare-Bear will just die, and turn out to be some guy no one knows when unmasked posthumously can we talk about how weird Scare-Bear's head is judging by the location of the eyeholes and an approximation of where the neck is? long fucking face.
Hey that's kinda what I thought. My theories were either the first Hank clone which didn't actually die and lived in hiding or it was a clone of Jonas senior. A third a less likely theory would be the Sovereign (perhaps he survived). This is still one of the best shows out there!
Very nice theory. My only hangups is I believe you're trying a little too hard at times in this video to explain everything, since a psychotic serial killer type deal wouldn't always have a rhyme or reasoning to their motives or actions that always can be explained. They kinda just do shit. I'm confident in sticking to it being the original hank, but I'm not losing sleep if it just turns out to just be an actual random serial killer. Or if the movie doesn't address it since I don't think narratively it matters much. If it was a random serial killer maybe it was all to show and subtly address how the guild reacts to or treats these type of people. We don't really see killers like this in the guild, sure they're villains but it's taken very literally and unionized.
16:48 The crazy part to add on to this real quick is that I had no idea about this I knew that there were clones but it’s been some time since I watched The venture Brothers but I didn’t know that doc drove his wife away or any of that shit I just thought his wife was just a psychopath so this is all just groundbreaking to me
Your scare bear is Hank theory is on the money. Think fight club. Two personalities existing side by side. Yea, scare bear carried Hank around but it was really Hank just walking.
Could Scare Bear be Old Ben? We don’t know much about his potential connections with villainy. He was “away” the last time Dean visited in the treaty episode.
I do really like your theory and I’m curious if there’s been any word about the movie being affected by the whole HBO shit show going on at wonder Brothers
I always thought that Scare Bear was Hank and Dean's mum. But the theory that they are the original Hank prior to cloning makes complete sense. However, Grover Cleveland's time machine could be a Chekhov's gun for cloned Hank time travelling to save himself. I reckon it is Hank in some form or other.
Also according to the movie as we now know - they always were clones (just like Rusty himself) creating in lab in artificial womb and they never had a mother.
The idea that it could be rocko isn't actually that far fetched y'know. He has a vested interest in seeing Serena not be messing around. And already has met Hank multiple times, gets on with Brock... I don't know man, It Could be.
the skin around the eyes is really a weird tone and it changes by scene, I don't think we can use that to prove he is white, But I saw a height chart that totally disproved brock unless he's atrophied to all get out.
the spider guy jared Jared’s used to animal-themed costumes we know he’s roommates with Dean, so he’d know the comings and goings in his private life he’s based outta New York Jared’s also Scare Bear he also used to date serena so that would be motive
*in reference to the cloning - there was mention of Rusty being a clone himself. Most likely was his fathers cloning facility (like everything else ). As for the theory I’m down with the Hank, still keep hearing Dermotts dumb voice saying.”I was totally a double agent duh” . He is the unacknowledged bastard which in comics is a common as a mother fucker trope. Enjoyed videos, funny shit keep at it.
I definitely think it's a version of Hank. Wether it's a future variation, alternate reality variant or a clone/original or whatever has yet to be seen.
It's Dermot! It's his OSI undercover villain persona. He procrastinated and just put on a dirty bear costume he had from some prank. And it worked! Hunter is beside themself with mirth and annoyance.
My money is on Scare Bear either being non-talking helper unit with legs, or a probably heavily burned but still alive henchman 24. Yes henchman 21 was hit with a flaming head after 24 apparently blew up, but the compound was littered with henchmen bodies. Heck, he could have faked his own death and the whole seatbelt thing was a ruse. Maybe he's even a secret OSI agent. Either way him being alive would explain why Orpheus couldn't see his ghost.
Also I guess the Scare Bear could be Hank. But rather than the time travel theory, it could just be one of the original Hanks. Could be Hank prime, or one of the first clones that possibly didn't die but survived and grew up outside the crazy Venture world.
I lowkey think its a wonderboy brought back from the dead with necromancy/super science, mirroring the Red Hood story line. Orrr, and I'm just going to throw this out there, what if its Zeus, the literal God Zeus, all pissed off that no one cares about Zeus anymore
It can also be Gary/21 since he knows the ventures relationship very well and is part of the fake villain team they were on, and isnt seen in the same room as Scarebear, and if you see how sepereated those eyes are its his skull structure it would fit Gary
we have seen dean loose his shit a few times, i think that his drive to not be part of "that life" might drive him to become a bud guy, idk i always just kinda assumed dean was gonna be a bad guy and hank was gonna become crazy flamboyant hero
Considering that as shown with Grover Cleveland’s Presidential Time Machine being the only known method of time travel and its pretty unreliable in terms of getting to the time that you want it to be. So if it was say, Future Dean, who embraced his fate as being in the super science game and he showed up in season 4 for the Revenge Society bit just goes “close enough” in terms of the year and was just killing time to get to the right time.
i think scare bear isn't meant to be an established character in disguise. its just the creepy silent character doing something kind when you wouldn't expect it from that character. i think they were just going for a random twist. but if it were an established character, i'm surprised you didn't mention sergeant hatred, who is a reformed villain who cares about hank and dean. if he wanted to still be involved in guild shit he would have to be in disguise since he gave OSI a ton of guild secrets. so if he wanted to do any side arching or hang out at guild clubs, etc. he would have to adopt a new persona. he's also large and has breasts.
It's Jared. Under-appreciated super hero. Doesn't seem to have an arch of any sort. Saves people, but they don't ever seem to appreciate his efforts. So he breaks bad. He comes up with an alter-ego where he can menace people instead. Scare Bear doesn't hurt people, just terrifies them. He also would know that Dean was fucking Sirena back at the dorm. He has expressed deep-seated feelings for Sirena, so to bring her boyfriend to watch her cheat on him is *chefs kiss* It's Jared.
I got a theory. Time Travel. Think about a few other plot points untouched in the series-Blue Morpho denies pressing the button responsible for the Movie Night Massacre, Scare Bear, and that time-travel scene where Rusty calls Monarch "Malcolm" with a degree of familiarity they never had before. My theory is, they had an idea for Season 8 where at one point, Rusty and Billy get stuck time travelling somehow...THEY cause the MNM on Gargantua-1, THEY are Scare Bear (it's billy on Rusty's shoulders or something like that) or they CAUSE Scare Bear to exist somehow...and also, this is all happening after something occurs that makes the two arch-enemies grow closer as pseudo brothers-both being clones of Jonas. AKA: In the unmade final season of the Venture Bros, *it would've featured Doctor Venture and the Monarch becoming Venture Brothers*
Scare bear is secretly one of Hanks flushed clones. (Similar to the episode with Deans clone who tried collecting the others parts to look perfect for Dr Venture.)
@@hue_jazz59 Brock is built like Jonas, head shaped like Jonas, same nose as Jonas, hairline like Jonas and he doesn’t know who is father is! Me thinks Brock’s mom might have met Jonas one night!
Once again i am posting my wild Scare Bear theory! After all your videos and any other on SB i can find my answer hasnt changed - Future Dermott. Why Hank actually dies jumping into the snow bank Dean blames himself & turns into the insane hobo from their jog How Dermott uses his OSI and Venture family connections to get the time machine
the original hank that you posit in your theory could want to live up to claim his birthright as Sovereign of the guild or surpass the role of the Sovereign to be a greater supervillain
yeah isn't he technically the older brother?
@@PatPeez by 4 minutes!
Oh true, and not only that but there would never have been all the whacky venture stuff in his upbringing. Daresay he might be the best sovereign. However my main theory is on fried brain space boy, or the spiderman in cognito cuz its college. Like why is scarebear at college anyways?
Scare Bear is actually you. He's you from the future where the Revenge Society fucked something up that led to Hank being killed in action as Batman and consequently the Monarch rules as the Living God, so you came back to the past to save Hank and stop the Revenge Society.
@bastiat4855 what? No no it can't be.... but it all adds up... the blackouts... the craving for honey.... oh my God. Scare Bear is me!!! 🤯🤯🤯🤯
With Radiant out, results are... Inconclusive.
It’s the moppets on top of each other
An excellent theory
Scare Bear is obviously the Grand Galactic Inquisitor! IGNORE ME!
He's super dead.
@5uperM or are we just IGNORING HIM
Can Hank and Dean be the sons of Debbie and Monarch and Deb and Samson.
Too short, plus he’s dead af
Hey somebody left a baby IGNORE ME!
i know two things, throwing bricks and frog being
Going off of the movie, Spoilers, id say its Hank himself.
In the movie we see that Hanks bit characters are actually split personalities that can take over, as seen by them "taking" his pen then writing in his journal what they said. We see that he sees and interacts with them different.
Hes starting to spiral and I think scare bear is him dealing with his darker emotions he usually buries. Hes at the revenge society because they messed with him or his family in some way in the past. The outfit is Hank doing his normal dress up and do goofy shit. Its probably not real blood stains but like him cutting open a juice box.
As for when he gets knocked out, I think it was a personality that took over and "carried" him through the motions. The cashier with the chips doesn't see the bear just Hank with a bloody head. Scare bear stopped for chips because hes still connected to the main body and knows what it needs/wants and knows about the dorm because Hank does. Scare bear sends him ahead because its his own way of saying the main Hank has to deal with his dark stuff.
At sketchfest 2020 there was a venture bros panel, Jackson public was there, it was pretty much just them telling some stories and then a huge q&a, surprisingly no one asked about Scare Bear till the end (I had wanted to but I'm fuckin shy) but a woman asked who Scare Bear was and JP was like ...we did not build this charater to have some extravagant back story, the fact that everyone keeps asking we are definitely going to have to do something... this was at a time before the show was canceled so they were writing for the next season witch he said they were more than half way done...
Rofl
The first scene with Scare Bear had me bursting out laughing. You had all of these "Villian of the Week" types, ones who are best at comic relief... then in the middle, for no reason, is this guy who's so over the top, he scares hardened villains, just by standing there... menacingly.
brought a serial killer to a super villain meeting
And to top it off he's followed by Brick Frog.
@@Richforce1 the fact that brick frog is a legit menace too is so funny
Movies out, no reveal of scarebear....... Best eat your shoe just to be safe
It would be very Hank of Hank to save Hank. I like your hypothesis. .
that was very hank of you to comment
@@newfoxclan7383 Fuck I love this commuinty.
Took the words right out of my mouth.
Go team Venture!
For the clone ages, I remeber reading a theory that it takes roughly 3ish months to finalize the slugs and get their memories downloaded. If you count the number of clones in Rusty's subconcious and figure in a 3 month delay for each its supposed to add up to about 3 years.
Interesting, I think I read that same theory of a post somewhere.
Scare bear is the friends we made asking the way
LMAO
I'm been panicking that the Discovery merger cancelled the Venture Bros. movie thank you for confirming that's not the case
I actually don't know if thats the case or not.
@@newfoxclan7383 ok thanks for notifying me
It's real, and it's available now.
It's Venturestien, Hank gave him his Batman mask. His build fits and he just has pupils. Also Venturestien wasn't doing well in Puerto vallía he's probably wanted, so maybe he wanted to keep the fam safe and protect his identity?
Decent idea, I like the idea that batman is such a positive influence that the concept of "batman" is enough to motivate people to do good things, so far as to track hank down.
This one I like
He's gotta be Giant Boy Detective
Dude why did I think " scare bear is a giant billy "
I totally forgot about giant boy detective 🤣
That's gotta be the most Dean answer in the entire comments 🤣
Bobbi St. Simone didn't take the original Dean and Hank. We know this because Myra knew the originals (she knows how old they're supposed to be) and their real mother was no longer in the picture. My theory as to why the clones are three years younger than the originals is that the boys first died when they were two. Doc clones them at that point and nine months later he decants two of the clones and has newborn babies.
Good point
Scare Bear is actually their long lost sister, Dawn.
I'll see myself out.
I paused at 6:30 to say I think scare bear is either the original hank or an older clone that went missing
yeah these are the only two suggestions that are remotely plausible or possible
I still do believe Scare Bear is actually a time traveling Hank, that the costume is just the result of him wearing it during a Halloween Party because he felt a connection with the person who helped him find out his GF was cheating on him. Suddenly Time begins to unravel with nobody fully knowing why except that it is paradox related. Hank, seeing himself in the scare bear costume, realizes he is the key to fixing this and jumps through a time anomaly or something resulting in him being uncontrollably thrown throughout time, appearing in various moments in time and inadvertently causing key events from just simply appearing in places or learning things he wouldn't have normally known about, to bumbling around and causing incidents like the movie night massacere. All the while Rusty desperately chases after hank in the time machine with Quiz Boy. Honestly that would make for the best finale to the entire Adventure Brothers as the rest of the cast has to fight off insurgents from different points in time. Who knows maybe Brock will finally be able to fight a cowboy riding a T.Rex like he always dreamed of.
This would genuinely be on par with the movie we actually got
That is honestly brilliant and I could definitely have seen it going that way. And who knows, maybe someday they'll do another movie. Great idea
I actually believe it’s going to be a clone of Rusty. The show glossed over him being a clone too and I can totally see it happening
problem with that theory is that rusty is actually shorter than both the boys
@@cursedtg Stilts
Isn't Rusty just a clone of Malcolm?
Helper Model 2 (Red Helper) his organic bits are Rusty Clone parts.
Then during Red Helper’s meeting with Dean we found out Rusty is a clone of himself.
Great men must terrible things, I forget the line. But implies Jonas senior had killed Rusty and cloned him.
It would explain his occasional lack of memories of past kid adventures.
Also Rusty slouches like 6 inches for the last 30 years.
Bet he’d been taller with more confidence.
Based ob the movie, I wonder if he's a Rusty/Bear hybrid
Id laugh if it's a jonas venture sr clone or jr with a fully formed body
sorry if there's a very obvious fact that would debunk this but, Hatred? Dude's got villain connections so he could have known about the Revenge Society auditions, he could have been keeping an eye on Doc during the party and he could have been watching out for Hank in the snowstorm in a way that would let Hank still feel like he has his independence, he also has some basic first aid training so he'd know how serious Hank's head injury was and he could have found out about Dean's business and thought Hank should know, Hatred at the hospital seems way too chill, I feel like Hatred would try to fight through to see Hank but he only offers up token resistance, maybe because he already knew Hank would be fine? I mean, it's not easy for a guy with a giant H/V tattooed on his face but the scare bear costume would do it.
Only issue is while hatred does have the height, I think. He is way too big for that suit. Or that suit hides more than we think.
The tattoo of the v goes over his eyes.
Honestly that seems really plausible to me, and seems like something the writers might actually do (they love their plot twists after all). In the past I've seen the theory that it was hank from the future (hence the mustached hank looking guy right at the end) but your theory about it being the original hank seems possible. If the movie comes out and you we're right, I'll be thinking of you lol
I still think The Scare Bear has to be Jared the knock off Spider-Dude. He's probably unhinged from all the disrespect he's received from society and once he saw Serena and Deen, he figured ' somebodies gotta tell him'. Plus, whats the best way to get back at an EX than exposing them?Take that Serena!
Maybe Captain Sunshine wanrs to get his boy sidekick back.
Rocco. It's Rocco. Who else would know of Sireena's whereabouts? He ensures Hank's safety but doesn't care enough to patch him up. His build is right, his character isn't involved with time travel, picking sides, or returning from the dead, in fact he may be recently unemployed and freelancing. He knows what she's been doing behind Hank's back and revealing it to him in such a dramatic way would be the ultimate payback/gotchya
Also, everyone wants to talk about the mystery of Scare Bear and no one wants to talk about the potential Orb style mystery hidden in the show like the Rusty Venture Cartoon.
I need someone to discuss about this with !!!! that would be so cool if we have something real like that!!!
any current evidence?
It's not potential, it's real.
@@johnw1954 I'm glad I'm not the only one that believes this
Scare bear is brick frog, I don't know how or why but he just is.
I like the theory of the monarch not actually being Rusty’s brother but a clone because couldn’t get the monarch’s mother pregnant the normal way let’s say she had no eggs so he used his experimental cloning vat of rusty and the monarch’s mother dna. If you go back to when dean talks to the doctor that lived in their back yard a lot of the things he mentions when examining dean a lot of the could be compared to the look/emotional swings of the monarch. Though I doubt they would go there being they only have a movie to wrap what they want to wrap up.
Ben the dude who lives in the that old house with helper model 2 (red helper) goes through a clone defect checklist on Dean while Dean ‘a waking up and he specifically says no sign of the “scientific name” for huge eyebrows.
Bigass Eyebrows are a clone defect.
Jonas senior had “powerful science” when he said he’d help the monarchs dad.
Which we all assumed was his junk, but now he meant cloning.
Jonas Tested early clone tech with his friend’s kid first to work out the defects.
Hence Monarch has the clone defect of Bigass Eyebrows.
You win for the closest guess!
Just throwing it out there, the bag of chips Hank buys is branded "El Tito" which means "The Uncle".
Tio is uncle not Tito.
@@deprive-999x "What does Tito mean in Spanish slang?
an uncle
an uncle; the brother of either parent. a male cousin of either parent. an affectionate or honorific term for a man of an older generation than oneself."
@@deprive-999x also the name translates to 'saved' so this is an interesting point
@@lillyvalley7362 That proves my point.
Ben?
Scare Bear is Hank from the future. That's why there's time travelling in the episode.
Scare bear is Hank. He used Grover Cleveland's time machine to go back in time a few years. He has been living in New York to avoid meeting his past self, he is freaked out that he might mess up the timeline. Hank was there at the Revenge Society to meet Dean and not audition. He wanted to talk to him but he screwed that up by hyperventilating in the costume. The reason for the bear costume is that he needed to avoid being seen by anyone who recognize him. Hank visited the college and steals a bear costume from the mascot changing room to sneak away when Dean visits the college. The "blood" stains is actually pizza sauce. Dean got his old pizza delivery job to make a living and uses the costume to deliver pizzas to the revenge society meeting. The "bloody" knife is sauce from Hank carving up pizza for those waiting to be interviewed. Hank is just doing his classic costume crazy behavior. He ends up just socially engineering himself into the Guild and stays with them to prepare to Arch Dean. However after meeting the guild members and hanging out with them he reflects on his life and forgives Dean.
Their mascot is a beaver though.
Scare Bear is Sergeant hatred. My theory is that after playing second fiddle to Brock he kinda crept back into being a villain but still cares about the ventures because they took him in when he got divorced. I think that he showed Hank that his gf was cheating because he knew how much pain princess tiny feet caused him when she cheated. Plus when we first see him he was in New York with Rusty
Well, as far as the boy's mother is concerned. the movie's post-credit scene answers that. But if there was a "bad batch" Dean that survived, why not a Hank one as well?
I remember Sovereign Bowie told once: "I am just a man who wanted to be someone else". I guess it has something to do with his shappeshif power but... couldn't be Hank who has surpased his custome powers and become a shapeshifter?
Sovereign Bowie also said that Dean was the older brother so he was the Sovereign therefore Hank should be his heroic arch. The time machine was in the Guild so what if Hank arrived to the Guild using the time machine, took Bowie's form and tried to destroy the Guild from the inside but resulted injured in the lake so he can no longer shapeshif and uses the bear custome to hide his appareance. Showing the truth about Dean and his girlfriend to his former self is a way to preserve his future brother rivality. Just a guess XD
Wow...thats one hell of a guess.
I mean, I don't have anything better sooo...
Aaaand none of this was answered in the movie, big oofs. Still think he is Ook Ook though.
It could be just modern Hank as well, him carrying him to Deans could have just been a concussion dream from Hank. The other times could have been Hank in his darker persona.
i had a stupid thought, what about gary doing undercover stuff. i dont remember scare bear killing anyone.
I started this video thinking that costume was dumb and left it thinking it was terrifying
I have always thought that he was the brock from another time period that got abandoned in the arctic at the end of escape from the house of mummies
Scare Bear has brown eyes, Brock has blue eyes.
Hank is also shown to be strangely competent at a lot of things. Not just as The Bat, but also as Hank, as seen in the episode where he easily deals with all of Hunter and Sphinx's distractions to try and keep him out of their hair. I could totally see him being Scare Bear.
IMO, Scare Bear has to be either Hank or Dean. They seem to be setting Scare Bear up to be very important, and I just can't imagine it being anyone other then one of the Venture Bros.
I think the Killinger theory has some credence; between Hank and Dean, Hank is the one most likely to embrace the life of villainy, especially with his "Enrico Matassa" persona. Delivering Hank to Dean and Sirena may have been meant to motivate some desire for revenge or whatever to start him down that path of villainy, but Scare Bear does not seem that especially competent, and may have just totally disregarded the fact that Hank was obviously concussed, and not able to properly process what was happening.
Scare Bear also shows up at points when Killinger would have an interest, like the formation of the Revenge Society; Scare Bear may have been his agent trying to help the RS without Killinger himself getting involved (somewhat aligning with his stance vs the Investors). Doom Factory may have been clients of Killinger as "new age" villains who take a more laid-back and enlightened approach to villainy, and that seems like something Killinger would facilitate.
IDK, I just don't think it would be a lazy explaination, but I'm not invested in the theory either.
$5 says it's Jonas Venture Sr.'s brother--he's the only venture we haven't seen with a brother and is either trying to either stop or jump-start Hank + Dean turning into the next generation's Rusty + Monarch
Personally, I always had the feeling that Hank would eventually join the costumed life, on one side of the line or the other. (Probably villain, like you said its been foreshadowed multiple times.)
And that Dean would either become his arch, following in Doc's foosteps but would actually be ethical. (If not sucsessful.) Or like you suggest, just not get involved with that lifestyle at all. Which is do think is more likely.
God-DAMN I love this story!
Actually, if Hank became a villain and Dean got into science like his dad, it would make sense for Hank to arch Dean. The dynamic of them being brothers would be an amazing story for the Guild and OSI to follow and the two of them would not actually threaten each other, they's just be playing games like old times. Hank would get to be an antagonist and have all the adventures he could ever want with his brother, and Dean would be able to conduct his science research in relative peace since his 'arch-nemesis' wouldn't actually be trying to kill him, sabotage him or steal from him. Since Dean would have an assigned antagonist, he would be safe from other villains who would actually cause harm. It would be perfect for both of them.
I believe in the art book they already explained who scare bear was he was a ex member of that Legion of Doom art group who wanted to get revenge on them
Strange, they must have neglected to mention SB during Doom Factory's rolecall
@@scootza1 ex member
The antagonist in Forecast Manufacturer, the head of the Peril Partnership, and he who plays Dive Bomb with 21 and The Monarch, his character is modelled after the original design of Brock's brother.
From the Go Team Venture! mega-book, The Art and Making of, The Venture Bros.
What is this comment, like 9 months later? Only crazy people like me are obsessed. (I think Scare Bear is a stalker of super scientists, or perhaps the Venture Bros)
I think Manstrong is responsible for venting the space station when he was a kid. I think he somehow saw the sex tape and freaked out.
Just one little thing here, not sure if it's significant. Brock is one of the only male characters in the show with clearly aqua eyes. As you said scarebear has black eyes. A note is that dermott has the same one eye squinted as scarebear and also is Hank's friend and would look over hank as a person who an outcast like him made a significant connection with. Also carries a knife like Brock because he idolizes Brock after the yard sale episode. Not an expert, just an analyst, do what you want with this information. Let me know what you think?
addendum: was it the yard sale episode or the summer camp on venture compound episode? I cant remember
@@ClaymoreGamezRusty’s Day Camp, and I originally thought Brock, now you have me thinking Dermott. BUT, whoever it is, must be a time traveller, maybe OSI Dermott fixing the timeline behind Doc and Billy, the costume and lack of talking is to keep the timeline mostly intact, even if he’s going rogue to help his friend.
What about Ben, the geneticist from "A Very Venture Halloween?" He has an interest in the Venture Brothers, is suitably weird, has the correct body build, is independent of any theme or storyline, has his own resources, and doesn't need any extraneous explanation such as a time machine. Given a lack of evidence, data, or clues for a specific character to fill the role of Scare Bear, my vote is for Ben.
I figued it was brick frog
Guys I think I figured it out its all in the chips the brand is called el tito meaning uncle think about it it was so out of place for the scene even as a gag what does it do to move the story forward anyway thats something I just picked up on
this
Yeah, I gotta admit...this does raise some questions.
But It's definately not JJ and the build doesn't fit Malcome. (Though the suit could be hiding it. With this is him trying to kickstart his nephew's own Villain career.)
Plot twist, Hank ends the movie a super scientist of his own right and we close on him inventing time travel. Hank has exactly the sort of, erm, creativity that today's super science lacks.
Scare bear could be 21. Why was 21 wearing a bear suit you ask, because he's a nerd and nerds are weird.
I support this idea with my palms
Maybe its a Brok clone that isn't full developed. Then "our Brok" finds out he's not the original. He's the second clone except he's a prefect copy. Remember the sudden personality change in Brok from episode one on wards? That was the original.
If it was dean I would think he’d rather go back in time to stop himself than just make a reveal to hank.
Scare Bear is Brock Samson's sperated at birth twin brother. I've really got no idea but the "evil" twin idea has been used before in the series.
Edit: no not the brother that was previously mentioned in the series.
A separate evil twin brother whatttt
Its Hank using Grover Cleveland's Presidential time machine visiting himself back in time. Not a clone of hank, but the same hank
7:16 the venture bros does indeed do lazy! we spent a long time wondering why then-Dr Girlfriend has such a gravelly voice... and in "home is where the hate is", we discover she's just a heavy smoker.
Unfortunately the movie disproves original Hank/Dean as candidates, I still like the time traveling Dean theory though.
I personally think its going to be an anti-twist like the Orb being broken and Scare-Bear will just die, and turn out to be some guy no one knows when unmasked posthumously
can we talk about how weird Scare-Bear's head is judging by the location of the eyeholes and an approximation of where the neck is? long fucking face.
Hey that's kinda what I thought. My theories were either the first Hank clone which didn't actually die and lived in hiding or it was a clone of Jonas senior. A third a less likely theory would be the Sovereign (perhaps he survived). This is still one of the best shows out there!
Since I saw the episode of Scar Bear saving hank I always thought it was Hank.
Very nice theory. My only hangups is I believe you're trying a little too hard at times in this video to explain everything, since a psychotic serial killer type deal wouldn't always have a rhyme or reasoning to their motives or actions that always can be explained. They kinda just do shit. I'm confident in sticking to it being the original hank, but I'm not losing sleep if it just turns out to just be an actual random serial killer. Or if the movie doesn't address it since I don't think narratively it matters much.
If it was a random serial killer maybe it was all to show and subtly address how the guild reacts to or treats these type of people. We don't really see killers like this in the guild, sure they're villains but it's taken very literally and unionized.
16:48 The crazy part to add on to this real quick is that I had no idea about this I knew that there were clones but it’s been some time since I watched The venture Brothers but I didn’t know that doc drove his wife away or any of that shit I just thought his wife was just a psychopath so this is all just groundbreaking to me
Your scare bear is Hank theory is on the money. Think fight club. Two personalities existing side by side. Yea, scare bear carried Hank around but it was really Hank just walking.
sucks that it was never explained
Could Scare Bear be Old Ben? We don’t know much about his potential connections with villainy. He was “away” the last time Dean visited in the treaty episode.
That... Could actually fit.
the whole pun of scare bear is care bear, he's a scary looking dude taken as a villain but he is really just a nice caring guy.
I do really like your theory and I’m curious if there’s been any word about the movie being affected by the whole HBO shit show going on at wonder Brothers
I havn't personally heard anything, but im slow on the uptake, I hope not :(((
I always thought that Scare Bear was Hank and Dean's mum. But the theory that they are the original Hank prior to cloning makes complete sense. However, Grover Cleveland's time machine could be a Chekhov's gun for cloned Hank time travelling to save himself. I reckon it is Hank in some form or other.
Oh shit you’re back, welcome back
Glad to be here
Also according to the movie as we now know - they always were clones (just like Rusty himself) creating in lab in artificial womb and they never had a mother.
I think it might be one of Wide Wale's whale lice body guards or even Rocco
The idea that it could be rocko isn't actually that far fetched y'know.
He has a vested interest in seeing Serena not be messing around. And already has met Hank multiple times, gets on with Brock...
I don't know man, It Could be.
The scare bear is a Scooby and scrappy Doo monster. From season 1
It's worth mentioning: *He looks like he's holding **_Brock's_** knife!*
the skin around the eyes is really a weird tone and it changes by scene, I don't think we can use that to prove he is white, But I saw a height chart that totally disproved brock unless he's atrophied to all get out.
the spider guy jared
Jared’s used to animal-themed costumes
we know he’s roommates with Dean, so he’d know the comings and goings in his private life
he’s based outta New York
Jared’s also Scare Bear
he also used to date serena so that would be motive
*in reference to the cloning - there was mention of Rusty being a clone himself. Most likely was his fathers cloning facility (like everything else ).
As for the theory I’m down with the Hank, still keep hearing Dermotts dumb voice saying.”I was totally a double agent duh” . He is the unacknowledged bastard which in comics is a common as a mother fucker trope. Enjoyed videos, funny shit keep at it.
Dean becoming rusty and hank becoming the monarch would be so perfect
I just wish they do one more session to give us fans the answers
Have you seen their new movie they just released yet?
I definitely think it's a version of Hank. Wether it's a future variation, alternate reality variant or a clone/original or whatever has yet to be seen.
something certain is that he 100% was stalking dean and hank since he knew where dean was and pretty much immediately helps hank
You need to put the crack down yourself and go watch the audio commentary for "It Happening One Night".
Scarebear is really Art the Clown from "THE TERRIFIER"! Think about it! Both are quiet, silent, murderous psychopaths.
It's Dermot! It's his OSI undercover villain persona. He procrastinated and just put on a dirty bear costume he had from some prank. And it worked! Hunter is beside themself with mirth and annoyance.
My money is on Scare Bear either being non-talking helper unit with legs, or a probably heavily burned but still alive henchman 24. Yes henchman 21 was hit with a flaming head after 24 apparently blew up, but the compound was littered with henchmen bodies. Heck, he could have faked his own death and the whole seatbelt thing was a ruse. Maybe he's even a secret OSI agent. Either way him being alive would explain why Orpheus couldn't see his ghost.
Also I guess the Scare Bear could be Hank. But rather than the time travel theory, it could just be one of the original Hanks. Could be Hank prime, or one of the first clones that possibly didn't die but survived and grew up outside the crazy Venture world.
What if Scare Bear is a Brock Clone.
I lowkey think its a wonderboy brought back from the dead with necromancy/super science, mirroring the Red Hood story line. Orrr, and I'm just going to throw this out there, what if its Zeus, the literal God Zeus, all pissed off that no one cares about Zeus anymore
It can also be Gary/21 since he knows the ventures relationship very well and is part of the fake villain team they were on, and isnt seen in the same room as Scarebear, and if you see how sepereated those eyes are its his skull structure it would fit Gary
we have seen dean loose his shit a few times, i think that his drive to not be part of "that life" might drive him to become a bud guy, idk i always just kinda assumed dean was gonna be a bad guy and hank was gonna become crazy flamboyant hero
Scare bear is hanks spilt personality like in fight club, when ak flips he becomes scare bear
Considering that as shown with Grover Cleveland’s Presidential Time Machine being the only known method of time travel and its pretty unreliable in terms of getting to the time that you want it to be. So if it was say, Future Dean, who embraced his fate as being in the super science game and he showed up in season 4 for the Revenge Society bit just goes “close enough” in terms of the year and was just killing time to get to the right time.
i think scare bear isn't meant to be an established character in disguise. its just the creepy silent character doing something kind when you wouldn't expect it from that character. i think they were just going for a random twist. but if it were an established character, i'm surprised you didn't mention sergeant hatred, who is a reformed villain who cares about hank and dean. if he wanted to still be involved in guild shit he would have to be in disguise since he gave OSI a ton of guild secrets. so if he wanted to do any side arching or hang out at guild clubs, etc. he would have to adopt a new persona. he's also large and has breasts.
I could get down wit hthis original hank idea.
It's Jared.
Under-appreciated super hero. Doesn't seem to have an arch of any sort. Saves people, but they don't ever seem to appreciate his efforts.
So he breaks bad. He comes up with an alter-ego where he can menace people instead. Scare Bear doesn't hurt people, just terrifies them.
He also would know that Dean was fucking Sirena back at the dorm. He has expressed deep-seated feelings for Sirena, so to bring her boyfriend to watch her cheat on him is *chefs kiss*
It's Jared.
either the the original hank or another clone that escaped because of the whole taking Hank to his brother is something he would do.
I got a theory.
Time Travel.
Think about a few other plot points untouched in the series-Blue Morpho denies pressing the button responsible for the Movie Night Massacre, Scare Bear, and that time-travel scene where Rusty calls Monarch "Malcolm" with a degree of familiarity they never had before. My theory is, they had an idea for Season 8 where at one point, Rusty and Billy get stuck time travelling somehow...THEY cause the MNM on Gargantua-1, THEY are Scare Bear (it's billy on Rusty's shoulders or something like that) or they CAUSE Scare Bear to exist somehow...and also, this is all happening after something occurs that makes the two arch-enemies grow closer as pseudo brothers-both being clones of Jonas.
AKA:
In the unmade final season of the Venture Bros, *it would've featured Doctor Venture and the Monarch becoming Venture Brothers*
Scare bear is secretly one of Hanks flushed clones. (Similar to the episode with Deans clone who tried collecting the others parts to look perfect for Dr Venture.)
It’s a older hank clone!! There was a scene when they were talking about how many clones there had been when it shows a clip of only Dean dying..
Scare Bear was at the fear factory!!!! He was in the background when the Andy Warhol villain arches venture and makes a party to steal his stuff.
The Venture bros have always been Doc, Brock and Monarch.
Brock is not a venture
@@hue_jazz59 Brock is built like Jonas, head shaped like Jonas, same nose as Jonas, hairline like Jonas and he doesn’t know who is father is! Me thinks Brock’s mom might have met Jonas one night!
@@crimsonnemesis3511 that IS plausable.
But I think it's coincidence. I belive it refers to the Cain and Able dynamic and the boys.
Once again i am posting my wild Scare Bear theory! After all your videos and any other on SB i can find my answer hasnt changed - Future Dermott.
Why
Hank actually dies jumping into the snow bank
Dean blames himself & turns into the insane hobo from their jog
How
Dermott uses his OSI and Venture family connections to get the time machine
Or it could be Dean, it would fit nicely with him becoming more of a villian and trying to redeem himself.