I hope you are as excited to hear this masterpiece of a power amplifier because it will be one of the most EPIC presentations of all time! - Dont forget to SUBSCRIBE and LIKE this video!
Jay is right. The Gryphon Apex Mono doesn't use bridging to boost power, so it can handle lower impedance speakers without sacrificing sound quality. Honestly, no speakers really need more than 200W in a normal room. So focusing on quality is what truly makes it high-end.
As I sit here looking at my latest Powerball ticket... Come-on baby! All kidding aside Jay, beautiful amps! As I've said before, really like seeing and learning how the equipment works. Going over the rear panels and explaining what is offered, etc. rather than just someone telling me what they hear. Looking forward to hearing your thoughts.
The best amplifier is: a) the one you keep and b) the one that makes you listen to music. However, I heard two things said: a) Revealing b) Having to change equipment to make it listenable. That is the problem with looking for the very last 1-2% sonically. Unless it is the perfect recording you don’t want to listen to it. Hence why people like Macintosh. I’ve owned a bunch much of stuff and got out of the hobby because was too consuming. Now I just enjoy my blue meters and less revealing speakers.
Talk, talk, talk ... talk. Not a lab. No measurements or any ABX testing or anything helpful. Just another guy with expensive gear talking. What a waste. What attribute of this amplifier, output impedance, noise floor, distortion, frequency response or anything could possibly be responsible for it being better at get you "closer to the music" than the latest $200 class D amps with absolutely amazing specifications, measured results and sound. Yeah, it's just expensive works of metal art. This is Jay's Art Studio. Not a lab in any way.
Wow! Those Gryphons make an iImpressive statement visually & (am sure) sonically! 3 people needed just to move it into place - things like this will eventually make one wish one had a bigger audio room & loadsa free time!!
@net_news It is an expense and a luxury for yourself. Ask how much is gifting yourself for a passion worth? For the ultra rich it could be Jay's system price range even a multiple of this per room! Or if your on a budget really good iem for your phone. In either case it costs you. And the Music should make you smile. Cheers.
Jay you got my mouth watering for some sound clips and further review once it breaks in. Keep up the Great Content and Thanks for putting a smile on my face :)
After you've had the necessary time that these 2 beast monoblocks need & deserve, to break in and pair with multiple different DACs, cables and even a couple sets of speakers, I'd LOVE for a comparison with the near top of the line Dan D'Agostino Relentless 800 monoblocks! What a 'clash of the titans' shootout that would be, Jay! I know you've had the Momentum S250 MXVs from Dan in your setup in the fairly recent past, but you're room and the mighty Gryphon's deserve a worthy challenger. Love you're reviews & comparisons, as always
Cool stuff Jay. And these babies should come in handy if you need to do some welding. Also good to have strong friends like Carlos! Thank you for sharing your journey thru the ultra-high end with us. Gear that most of us can only dream about.
I just knew it had to be Gryphon. "Ultra high-end" just may be an understatement. Just the logistics of shipping and moving these pieces into place has got to be something to behold. I love how they rounded the heatsinks too - I can remember very vividly banging my leg, knee, hand, etc. into sharp heatsinks on power amps as I moved stuff around. It is always interesting to see (and hear) a true pure Class A amplifier vs. some of the dynamicly-biased Class A designs that are on the market now (e.g. Krell's iBias technology).
Lets get this said before moving on. You are definitely able to get that experience at prices that don't rival NASA's budget. Jay is totally immersed in what he likes, and he can afford to play, but brilliant Hi Fi, performance can be had at a fraction of what Jay puts into it. Most High Performance Music reproduction chasers like myself build their systems over many years, thinking long and hard about the most important word in HiFi, that word being "Synergy," the second being "Balance". You can achieve world-class reproduction at a very reasonable price comparatively. Jay does what he does because he can and he enjoys it. I find his channel interesting and often informative because anyone who thinks they know it all in HiFi is pretending or arrogant, and I don't believe Jay is either.
Hi Jay. I have never seen a Monoblock Amplifier with 2 pairs of speaker terminals. When you do your next video could you cover how that works and what is the correct way to wire the Amplifier to the speakers. Thanks Jay, and great work.
I'm looking forward to how it sounds with the Commander pre Amp and what you think of them when you have had a chance to live with them for a while. The amps are sure beautiful looking. Thanks Jay
I haven't seen such a diversity of power amps anywhere else, and everything from 400+ pound class A monsters to highly efficient class D output stages. The common thread here is that all components are of exceptional quality. The great show here certainly keeps me tuned in!
210K, so you could go to conserts every day for the rest of your life and still have money left over. I must say that from a design standpoint I prefer the Esoteric amps, their styling is very clean and understated.
Yes, it would have been interesting to short-circuit the output and then switch it on - does the amplifier notice this - or does it simply switch to 1 ohm according to the motto "this will probably be a box that is not yet at operating temperature"?
Although I am a Dan Agostino relentless amplifier fan I do believe the Griffin is a more neutral nuance amplifier than a relentless but I repeat, but I still prefer the Relentless. I like it’s involvement how it draws you into the music now I’ve not listened to Apex,but the Griffin sound is definitely Beguiling in the sense that there is a clarity to it that is just there that’s all there is to it. Another words I could be very happy with it as well as the Solution CH precision, etc. etc. etc. The thing about the Dan Agostino Relentless amplifier is that you have this impression of being more involved in the actual stage presence of the music venue. Is it neutral nope but it is still very accurate nuanced and detailed at the same time. The Griffin has a bit more clarity, but misses out as far as I’m concerned in involvement that’s my take. Oh yeah, it’s bass and midbass is to die for and its midrange has got to be heard to be believed.😊
Amazing Jay, congrats for this achievement. A question, if you had already swapped the speakers with the subwoofers to the inside of the room, as were expected, why did you swapped them back again ???
As the former exclusive distributor of Gryphon Audio in Iran; I must say this brand is magnificent and magical BUT there’s no such thing as the best amplifier….
Awesome Jay, thank you! Now, the race is on between you and Adrian Low over on the Audio Excellence Canada channel…….who will be the first to compare D’Agostino Relentless monos to the Apex monos??? And then…..heaven help us…..on to the big daddy Relentless Epic 1600’s!! 😮😮😮😮😮
Hello, First, why the Epex without the commander? is the Soulution the better choice? Why (before bringing the Apex mono) you didn't choose to bring the new Soulution power amp to go with your 727 Soulution pre amp? Regards
Another great video Jay, thanks for another Hyper Ultra High End power amp showing! they match your personality!!!!! BIG and BOLD!!!!!! enjoy those bad boys!!! maybe some day! Peace!
You don't even have to turn those on! They look good just sitting there. Man, I can't wait until you load these up on the system! Jay, I don't know how you do it! I totally envy you in our hobby man! Never, ever, any hate here but full support and high fives bro!🙌🏾🔥🔥🔥🔥
Cant wait untill you try.. Danish Audio Design " The One".. Analog Domain amps. YS Sound amps, preamp with S/N of 160 db. !! Too much resolution is not always a good thing. I prefer musical rather than analytical sound.. There is a difference imo.
Is it best in your view because of its provable audio performance compared to othe true ultra high end performance technologies that you have familiarity with?
I hope you are as excited to hear this masterpiece of a power amplifier because it will be one of the most EPIC presentations of all time! - Dont forget to SUBSCRIBE and LIKE this video!
Now I know why U won't bring in a
Coda 16.0 100watts A isn't enough
Amazing 🤩
they are amazing Jay, congrats and thanks for showing us these beautiful and incredible beasts. 🙌
@@CarlVanDoren61I’ll take my 2wpc 45 SET DHT monoblocks every day of week & twice on Sunday
@@CarlVanDoren61bingo
Jay is right. The Gryphon Apex Mono doesn't use bridging to boost power, so it can handle lower impedance speakers without sacrificing sound quality.
Honestly, no speakers really need more than 200W in a normal room. So focusing on quality is what truly makes it high-end.
Чтобы правильно играл контрабас нужно 160 на канале, для этого чтобы играло без искажений нужно 400 ват поэтому минимум 400 нужно!
As I sit here looking at my latest Powerball ticket...
Come-on baby!
All kidding aside Jay, beautiful amps! As I've said before, really like seeing and learning how the equipment works. Going over the rear panels and explaining what is offered, etc. rather than just someone telling me what they hear. Looking forward to hearing your thoughts.
Thanks 🙏
The amps are almost art. Beautiful pieces, and I'm sure they sound ridiculous. We're so blessed in this Nation.
Couldn't agree more!
I would say they are art!
The best amplifier is: a) the one you keep and b) the one that makes you listen to music. However, I heard two things said: a) Revealing b) Having to change equipment to make it listenable. That is the problem with looking for the very last 1-2% sonically. Unless it is the perfect recording you don’t want to listen to it. Hence why people like Macintosh. I’ve owned a bunch much of stuff and got out of the hobby because was too consuming. Now I just enjoy my blue meters and less revealing speakers.
True , I have always loved the high end gear , unfortunately much of my music collection CD/vinyl does not.
Now if you add the Borresen M6's you will get honorary citizenship to Denmark.
Citizenship to other countries could come in handy in 2024-what other countries do you have?
Talk, talk, talk ... talk. Not a lab. No measurements or any ABX testing or anything helpful. Just another guy with expensive gear talking. What a waste. What attribute of this amplifier, output impedance, noise floor, distortion, frequency response or anything could possibly be responsible for it being better at get you "closer to the music" than the latest $200 class D amps with absolutely amazing specifications, measured results and sound. Yeah, it's just expensive works of metal art. This is Jay's Art Studio. Not a lab in any way.
Wow! Those Gryphons make an iImpressive statement visually & (am sure) sonically! 3 people needed just to move it into place - things like this will eventually make one wish one had a bigger audio room & loadsa free time!!
Just bought their baby brother (Essence), can’t begin to imagine what these sound like. Happy listening.😊
Enjoy!
There is no best amp cause at this price range there are no losers and the only thing is preference.
i agree with you!
the only loser is your bank account! 😂
@net_news It is an expense and a luxury for yourself. Ask how much is gifting yourself for a passion worth? For the ultra rich it could be Jay's system price range even a multiple of this per room! Or if your on a budget really good iem for your phone. In either case it costs you. And the Music should make you smile. Cheers.
There’s only one word…OUTSTANDING…💯⚡️👍🏾
@@net_news Sure is haha
Interesting to hear you are using the l1/x1 I’ve just purchased L10 and am pairing this with the Essence. Happy listening.
The Darth Vader of amps. Watch the street lights dim when these chaps kick in!
I thought Jay was going to reveal the mini cooper😂
The amps are blocking the sound from the speakers.. you have to move them more to the front wall..
Jay those amplifiers are Gorgeous! Loved the putting up on the stand segment. Thank You for including the specifications. Always enjoy the videos. 😎
Holy Cow Batman! Jay has out smarted us again! Brilliant Equipment Sir.
These amps are the best ever...that is until the next amps arrive next week then those amps will be the best ever. Good one, Jay.
Jay you got my mouth watering for some sound clips and further review once it breaks in. Keep up the Great Content and Thanks for putting a smile on my face :)
Thanks! Will do!
This was fun! Thanks for sharing.
my pleasure!
I use class D car audio amps to drive my subs in my home theater, I run 4, 15" 3000 watt subs, 1 in each corner and time aligned.
Incredible, and zero global negative feedback.
yes !
After you've had the necessary time that these 2 beast monoblocks need & deserve, to break in and pair with multiple different DACs, cables and even a couple sets of speakers, I'd LOVE for a comparison with the near top of the line Dan D'Agostino Relentless 800 monoblocks! What a 'clash of the titans' shootout that would be, Jay!
I know you've had the Momentum S250 MXVs from Dan in your setup in the fairly recent past, but you're room and the mighty Gryphon's deserve a worthy challenger. Love you're reviews & comparisons, as always
Congratulations!! They’re beautiful!!
They are!
I have those amps and legacy audio whisper speakers and parasound old school pre amp processer. And no clipping and I cranked it up mega loud.
These amps are like engines
Cool stuff Jay. And these babies should come in handy if you need to do some welding. Also good to have strong friends like Carlos!
Thank you for sharing your journey thru the ultra-high end with us. Gear that most of us can only dream about.
For sure!
Eso debe de tener una construccion de primera, pero por el tamaño y el peso eso es como un matrimonio obligado 😁
Those beasts are as big as a V12! When Jay fires them up, his lab shows up on Stratcom's nuclear launch board.
I just knew it had to be Gryphon. "Ultra high-end" just may be an understatement. Just the logistics of shipping and moving these pieces into place has got to be something to behold. I love how they rounded the heatsinks too - I can remember very vividly banging my leg, knee, hand, etc. into sharp heatsinks on power amps as I moved stuff around. It is always interesting to see (and hear) a true pure Class A amplifier vs. some of the dynamicly-biased Class A designs that are on the market now (e.g. Krell's iBias technology).
Apenas uma palavra...Uauu (Just one word...Uauu) Congratulations, amazing, heavy and a outstanding system...A big hug from Portugal
Thank you very much!
Put those speakers in a bigger room farther away from the side walls and the sound stage would be huge.
Great amplifier but with high prices as you use to do , nice review congratulations for the acquisition !!!
Thanks!
FInally - those are best amps. Period. Jay get them better speakers, they deserve that.
That's f$king wild....those are my dream amps.
Why?
I'm nobody for you, but you have my respect, Jay! Amazing, amazing, amazing! Have a great week!
Thank you! You too!
just listened to the topgun track. wow! i can feel the vibes through my sound bar at the computer. sounds fantastic..i want a pair..lol
I remember 25 years ago hearing a gryphon and Wilson speakers i thought there was some one playing a guitar in the hi fi room
Lets get this said before moving on. You are definitely able to get that experience at prices that don't rival NASA's budget. Jay is totally immersed in what he likes, and he can afford to play, but brilliant Hi Fi, performance can be had at a fraction of what Jay puts into it. Most High Performance Music reproduction chasers like myself build their systems over many years, thinking long and hard about the most important word in HiFi, that word being "Synergy," the second being "Balance". You can achieve world-class reproduction at a very reasonable price comparatively. Jay does what he does because he can and he enjoys it. I find his channel interesting and often informative because anyone who thinks they know it all in HiFi is pretending or arrogant, and I don't believe Jay is either.
Hi Jay. I have never seen a Monoblock Amplifier with 2 pairs of speaker terminals. When you do your next video could you cover how that works and what is the correct way to wire the Amplifier to the speakers. Thanks Jay, and great work.
Sure thing!
I'm looking forward to how it sounds with the Commander pre Amp and what you think of them when you have had a chance to live with them for a while. The amps are sure beautiful looking. Thanks Jay
Coming soon!
A pair of these beasts look incredible! With two pairs you could bi-amp your SFs 😊 I can’t wait to hear them. Thanks Jay for sharing this experience.
You bet!
Imagine building up a 15 channel Atmos setup with these and the Sonos fibers 😂 that'd be crazy I'm sure there's someone in world that has done rhat 🤯
I haven't seen such a diversity of power amps anywhere else, and everything from 400+ pound class A monsters to highly efficient class D output stages. The common thread here is that all components are of exceptional quality. The great show here certainly keeps me tuned in!
Thank you
Very Impressive, Jay knowing what a farad is , come along way Jay , good stuff ...!
Apex monoblocken sound’s amazing thrue your short’svideo.I use iphone 5s and headphone sennheiser hd 600.I can think how it sounds home in your room👌🤓
210K, so you could go to conserts every day for the rest of your life and still have money left over. I must say that from a design standpoint I prefer the Esoteric amps, their styling is very clean and understated.
You also need speakers, pre amp, etc.
What is more good than Gryphon Apex? Apex Mono! Congratulations, Jay! 👍👍
thank you !
Congratulations, Jay, on your new Apex monos 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 Darth Vader amps
Thank you kindly!
That`s the best looking audio system i ever seen!!! And maybe in the future you could fit an DCS Vare`se🤔 I hope you will share some listening!
Hi Jay, does your electrical bill go up a lot when using class A vs AB
Low volume thump, good lookin, more conceivable resolution impressive & and not even close to being broke in, wow! May need to retune speakers again.
Yes, it would have been interesting to short-circuit the output and then switch it on - does the amplifier notice this - or does it simply switch to 1 ohm according to the motto "this will probably be a box that is not yet at operating temperature"?
Not gonna tinker with a 200k amp and make an experiment out of it 😂
@jaysaudiolab... does this not fall into the warranty category or does the amp not have one?
All good amps come to life at low volume
Although I am a Dan Agostino relentless amplifier fan I do believe the Griffin is a more neutral nuance amplifier than a relentless but I repeat, but I still prefer the Relentless. I like it’s involvement how it draws you into the music now I’ve not listened to Apex,but the Griffin sound is definitely Beguiling in the sense that there is a clarity to it that is just there that’s all there is to it. Another words I could be very happy with it as well as the Solution CH precision, etc. etc. etc. The thing about the Dan Agostino Relentless amplifier is that you have this impression of being more involved in the actual stage presence of the music venue. Is it neutral nope but it is still very accurate nuanced and detailed at the same time. The Griffin has a bit more clarity, but misses out as far as I’m concerned in involvement that’s my take. Oh yeah, it’s bass and midbass is to die for and its midrange has got to be heard to be believed.😊
Awesome job Jay 👊👊👊 no tubes yet 😊
thanks !
With love from Singapore 🇸🇬
Thank you !
Jay, before you uncovered the Beasts I was beginning to think some Manufacturer was bringing back Console HiFi! Huge!💪
I do enjoy watching your channel. Thank you for your efforts and support.
I appreciate that!
Hello from Denmark. Awesome amps 🎉🎉
Hey, thanks!
Спасибо вам ! Время покажет насколько они хороши.
Please tell me. Are the monoblocks connected to a wall socket or to a powercell?
Awesome! Congrats Jay. Where is your Commander preamp? Wouldn't that be the best match for these amps?
Stay tuned 😜
Yes far better then solution and ch-precision…..i am swiss and i own apex monos with commander
Hope one day you can have the Dartzeel pre with the 468 monos
Would love to do a side by side with the benchmark ahb2
😂
@@DBTAudio people have sold gryphons after listening to the ahb2
Sure lol
@@jaysaudiolab google it
Amazing Jay, congrats for this achievement. A question, if you had already swapped the speakers with the subwoofers to the inside of the room, as were expected, why did you swapped them back again ???
They sound like crap with subs out. My room doesn’t like it
Whats your thought on comparing right now supposed best versus other mire advanced technologies?
As the former exclusive distributor of Gryphon Audio in Iran; I must say this brand is magnificent and magical BUT there’s no such thing as the best amplifier….
Welch Monumente von High End Verstärkern! 💥👍🌅
Very nice can't wait to hear them
How many watts does it use at class A idle. Thanks.
Awesome Jay, thank you! Now, the race is on between you and Adrian Low over on the Audio Excellence Canada channel…….who will be the first to compare D’Agostino Relentless monos to the Apex monos??? And then…..heaven help us…..on to the big daddy Relentless Epic 1600’s!! 😮😮😮😮😮
Looks like an awesome amp!
I love it!
Hello,
First, why the Epex without the commander? is the Soulution the better choice?
Why (before bringing the Apex mono) you didn't choose to bring the new Soulution power amp to go with your 727 Soulution pre amp?
Regards
It'll be nice to know how these ultra high-end amps compare to your more affordable favorites, such as Luxman M10X, etc..
They don’t compare. Those are amazing amps that are not in the same book as this super amplifier.
Ditch the Artesanias for Gryphon Stand Arts to complete the Gryphon Apex sound. You will be surprised.
Very Very nice Jay. 👌
thanks !
Going great jay... keep going on...❤
Thank you so much 😀
You pointed to the unpacking and set up instruction manual, then ignored it completely? 🙂
Ok sounds very good how about the pre amp you need to get the pre amp as well or what are you planing to use with it? Cheers
stay tuned.... lol
Should have labelled the amp brands in the segment. Knew most of them, but not all.
There’s always google images
@@jaysaudiolab Should I do that for you and post it here?
Another great video Jay, thanks for another Hyper Ultra High End power amp showing! they match your personality!!!!! BIG and BOLD!!!!!! enjoy those bad boys!!! maybe some day! Peace!
Thanks
Bro you really need to work on the audio quality of this channel. They sound muffled.
Commander pre incoming 😂 quick everyone buy all the used for sale stuff now! Jay needs 4 Ansuz gold signature power cables to run on the amps!
This coming from someone whom pontificated at length how he was done with Gryphon.....integrity is not just a word.
I know right ?😅
My 3 Crown XLI 3500s for my big subs are perty good
Ever tried any Halcro Eclipse Mono or CH Precision M10's amplifiers ?
Not yet!
No
@@jaysaudiolab Could be very interesting !
@@jaysaudiolab I would love to see these....
Think i wait for the MK II.
What a journey you've been on. Thanks for taking us on it.
my pleasure!
With that much Class A in the room do you have to add a second AC unit?
Yup
‘The beautiful logo’ lol
Would you ever consider show casing the systems, you set up for your clients .
😮 Amazing 👏 monoblocks
Why not try 2 x stereo amps from Gryphon then bi-amp to the speakers similar to how the Mc 901's do?
Dense bottom end stands out!
You don't even have to turn those on! They look good just sitting there. Man, I can't wait until you load these up on the system! Jay, I don't know how you do it! I totally envy you in our hobby man! Never, ever, any hate here but full support and high fives bro!🙌🏾🔥🔥🔥🔥
thanks man - it is not easy to do what i do... I appreciate the support!
Chance the speakers and the chance that’s you prefer a different poweramp is very large, it’s all about the synergy off the components
Cant wait untill you try.. Danish Audio Design " The One".. Analog Domain amps. YS Sound amps, preamp with S/N of 160 db. !! Too much resolution is not always a good thing. I prefer musical rather than analytical sound.. There is a difference imo.
2X more monos and will be full scale bi-amp absolute madness !!! :)
Today i just want to survive .......... 😓
hahaha
Good for headphones I guess.😂 So proud and happy for you
Is it best in your view because of its provable audio performance compared to othe true ultra high end performance technologies that you have familiarity with?