@@msfriendsfan4ever788 she was since season 1 the calm in the Storm for everyone she was the glue who glued Izzi, Alex, Cristina and George together which was later showed what would have happened when Ellis never got Alzheimer's and we're married to Richard In this alternate universe/dream Meredith never became friends with izzi, George and Cristina Izzi was known as the crazy one , George the one who failed his exam and never was heard of, and Yang became more Yang than Yang However in the shows universe she glued them all so together that, George when he failed his exam stayed She and the rest protected izzi (because Meredith insisted) and Meredith came up with a plan because of the Danny thing, Cristina told everyone about her cancler, without Meredith Cristina wouldn't care about izzi Alex changed because of Izzy Which means Meredith really was the calm Im storm for everyone since the beginning (atleast if she cares about someone) Without Meredith as glue Izzi would probably thrown out from the program or would have left, maybe killed herself because of Denny but definitely would have died in a mental hospital because of cancler which gave her hallucinations
I honestly think her ability to listen and read people probably came from being raised by her mother. I betcha the fictional Ellis Grey wasn't much for listening, especially to a child, so she probably learned early how to listen and read people. She knows when to talk and when to listen.
@@nataliaisabella6705 why not? Depression isn’t sunshine and rainbows is it? It takes its form in many ways, and dark and twisty is one of them. In this show, dark and twisty might come off as a joke for merediths character but in reality she is dark and twisty. Her brain is. She’s a lot more depressed than it can sometimes be made out to be. You don’t try to drown yourself and not have some ounce of depression and dark and twisty thoughts.
@@leahheapp totally agree weather u call it dark and twisty or for me falling in the hole its just how people try to explain their feelings to others who may not really know what they are going thru
I love how Meredith has so many life experiences to relate with. You stole a baby? Been there done that. Miscarriage? Bet it wasn’t as bad as mine. Gone blind? Right here. Your boyfriend has a wife? I’m your girl. Plane crash? Talk to me. Your boyfriends ex fiancé came back from the dead? Yeah it’s happened a few times. Discovered a half sister. Coolio. Another half sister? Don’t worry. Did your dad ask for a liver? No problem. A hospital shooting? Been there once or twice. Your best friend has cancer? It’s fine. Your best friend got hit by a bus or moved to Switzerland? You’ll be okay. Are you a widow now? Got nothing to worry about. Are you slightly suicidal? Same girl, same. Is your half sister dead now? Is your hand somehow in a body cavity with a bomb? It’s not as bad as it sounds. C-section and splenectomy during a power outage? Wanna run away to San Diego? Your best friend got left at the altar? Your wedding became your friends wedding? Divorced parents? Mother had an affair? Mother is also slightly suicidal? Wanna try out bangs? Go for it. I could go on forever but you get my point lol
@@erauprcwa Addison went to LA and after Derek died Meredith and kids run off to San Diego for about a year and there she had Ellis. Meredith's mom run off to Boston
@@livux4156 Oh, I didn't realize it was San Diego, I thought she went to Boston, like her mother... Thanks for the info. The way they played the scene when Ellis was born, it was juxtaposed with Meredith's mother's suicide attempt.
The moment Meredith said she didn't fight when she was in the water, you can see Jo's hope back in her eyes. She never witnessed all of Meredith's dark and twisty moments (George's death, the shooting, the plane crash, etc. ) and even though she was around when Derek died, they weren't friends. Meredith opening up about how she didn't want to fight gave Jo hope that she could overcome her depression and she could get help. Love this scene, love the acting 💜
Ya that’s the one thing that she should talk about more, she keeps to many things like she helped jo by telling a story about her. There was scenes that I was like tell that person what happened to you and she will find hope. But Meredith keeps it to herself and only takes it out when someone is in crisis. Yes her story’s are delicate but if it’s going to help someone why not just tell them.
I don’t think it’s that she had hope at that moment. I think it’s her realizing “OMG, Meredith Grey, THE Meredith Grey, one of the best surgeons in the country and one of the best people I’ve ever met, didn’t fight? Meredith Grey felt worthless just like I do? She actually understands what I’ve been feeling this whole time?”
Very moving scene, when Meredith re-lives the moment when she fell in the water and decided not to fight the drowning. All GA fans would remember that episode very well and the sad circumstances surrounding it - Meredith's growing depression, lack of self-worth and importance, measured by her mother's lack of faith in her! Calling her extraordinary daughter "ordinary". Amelia was right, Meredith was the only person who could help Jo fight her depression, lack of self-worth and importance.
No. Amelia could have done a better job. The writers just made it all about Meredith needing to save the day again. I wonder how she is going to save DeLuca from what she did? I bet that they give her another award just for breaking the law.
@@logann-mackenziefroste563 Amelia was also qualified, yes but they don't really have a close relationship, do they? I doubt Jo would've 'let her in'. Whereas, Meredith was a sort of mentor to Jo and a friend. After giving her a hard time for so long, Meredith realised Jo was good for Alex. None of the other characters are in Jo's exact position but Meredith would at least, understand depression and suicidal behaviour. Amelia too, has battled her demons but that doesn't mean she was necessarily the best person to convince Jo to get the help she needs.
We all need a Meredith grey in our lives. Someone who will say “I’m not leaving this bed until you talk to me” and “I’ve got you. Sometimes we don’t need fixed, we just need someone to say “i got you, and I’m not leaving you”
If I had someone like her in my life, then maybe, just maybe, I’d survive. I’m so much like jo except for the fact that I don’t have someone to save me like Meredith saved her.
Jennifer Ferguson she freaking saved her best friends husband (love of her life) while a gunman holds his weapon against her forehead 😠 when this isn’t support I don’t know what it is 🤷🏼♀️
Yes! Thank you for a good representation of what depression feels like. Not something that can be solved with a cute pep talk and a week of good sleep.
Something like this has happened to me with my depression and anxiety. There was one day where I felt like I wanted to stop but I also really didn’t want to stop. It was terrifying, and I thought I was going insane. My mom was there for me like Mer was there for Jo, and she helped me withdraw from college and go to a community college for the year while we get the help I needed. While I don’t like having those memories and emotions come back, this video, while it did bring back those memories, it really made me appreciate the fact that I had someone like Meredith there for me.
I wish life was as well written as this. I’ve encountered so many people that are as lost, depressed and in pain as Jo in this scene and I could almost never find the words to help pull them back.
in real life, it doesnt matter, what exact words you say. it s about showing love and support. but most importantly the other person has to want to get back on track and really work for it too.
It's possible. In order to truly help someone with darkness you have to had already lived it. Embraced it. Two summers ago I had a medication side effect that caused muscle spasms so bad it dislocated my jaw. I couldn't eat. I couldn't talk. I could barely swallow at all. I could though, throw up, and after a few weeks of that your stomach starts to tear itself apart. I was throwing up blood and none of my doctors cared. I thought I was going to die and I was okay with it. My step dad ordered my favorite pizza and pasta thinking it would get me to eat. I decided to try and I didn't care if I choked and died. I just wanted to taste food, even if it was the last thing I did. I was able to get a little food down and I survived but I was okay with either outcome. Do you know what helped me most after that? What helped me be "okay" again? An 80 year old man who reminded me of all the times he's almost died. "I've been almost dying my entire life." is the single most powerful sentence anyone could have said. It's not about the words. It's about what they mean. Ever since then I have become suddenly decent at advice. I understand the feeling of darkness that Meredith talked about here. I had my swim or sink moment and I didn't care about the outcome. I came back from that. I came back from a lot more. Sometimes you have to taste darkness to be able to speak it's language.
@@omac18, your explanation is only one possibility of many different possible ways to help. i have had plenty of true help from people who had never been in a similary dark place. on the other hand, just because soneone has been there and embraced it, as you call it, doesn't mean, their way would fit all others. understanding someones pain can be helpful, but doesn't fix anything yet. and, again, if a person doesn't want to put effort into their own healing then noone else could help.
@@eliasgall3089 You Also have to understand that it's not only about "effort", dear. When depression is severe to the point of not beign able to get up from the bed (physically, not mentally), it's hard to strive for something on a chemical level. This DISEASE kills you from the inside. You don't say a person recovering from surgery or chemo that they " need to get up" blah blah, you give the time to recover and gain strength. You sound like person who loves to speak about depression but doesn't really understand what it really is. You can't cure depression by sheer force of will, please understand it before spreading ignorance
Amelia was right, if anyone could help Jo it was Meredith. Amelia knows Meredith we’ll because as she has mentioned in previous episodes she never had a real sister that “got her” until she met Mer. She will stand by your side and help you out of the darkest places, because she had so many and always comes up on top. She also loves Jo, because she deserves Meredith love. That’s a rare thing Meredith does not open up.
Just shows how much character development Meredith has gone through these past three seasons since. Seeing her be so open, and kind, and understanding of Jo is just very satisfying to me after so much tension between them in the past. Part of the resentment Mer had for Jo had to have been because she felt Jo wasn't "good" for Alex (among other reasons, like her not wanting to lose her "person" to Jo, which is very understandable because who wants to lose their best friend to their significant other?). It takes a minute to get Meredith to break down her walls for you, but when she does, she's THERE, she's _always_ there. Being kinder to Jo is also doing Alex a kindness as well. Meredith hasn't had a single dark and twisty moment this whole season. She's unpacked so much shit in her life (most recently, Derek's death) that she feels lighter, so now that she's lighter for _herself,_ she can be lighter for others and help unpack _their_ shit. I love this scene. It shows her growth as a person.
I lover her character development over time. She was mean to Lexie too. And who would’ve thought her and Karev would’ve been close friends like they are now.
I remember when Jo had her very first scene with Meredith and thought of her as the terrifying “Medusa” the same way the OGs did with Bailey in season 1. Now they have such a personal friendship and connection. It’s amazing to see how much Meredith has grown since season 1 and now seeing how Jo has become such a strong woman who has faced so much heartache.
Laurene Adler I don’t agree with you. They may not have been friends before but surely they are now. Meredith understood all of Jo's pain, showed her the incredible and wonderful person she is by turning all her suffering into good actions for other people and now she has found help to get better. Merjo is so beautiful and i love this friendship! But i respect your opinion 🙂
I have had too many rough chapters like this in my life where I have been under the covers for days, even weeks. I wished I had had someone who would have hold my hand like this and just gotten me to the shower. I like this scene and the compassion and understanding Meredith shows to Jo.
I LOVED how Meredith convinced Jo that despite what she was born from she is strong and beautiful. After hearing Jo's fantasy as a child, I wish that Meredith would have hugged her until Jo felt safe.
This is really one of the most beautiful, touching and intense scenes I've ever seen in grey's in years!!! Never give up guys! Life is so beautiful especially when you're sorrounded by your loved ones
My comment does not want to express any kind of offence or harm to anyone. I am nobody to say anything like that to people who suffer and I would not even dare. It is a just a message of hope and positivity, appreciating the support Meredith has given Jo and the help your friends or people who really cares could give. That's all. Have a nice day.
Just look at Mer... the tears in her eyes... she was just so scared that who could say « I wanna stop ». Argh, it hurts, I love their friendship so much ❤️
This is a testament to how much they've allowed Mer to grow over the years. She's not dark and twisty anymore. Now she sees the brighter side, but she hasn't forgotten what that was like. Props to Ellen and Camilla here.
I don’t think it’s a glitch. I think this is foreshadowing. There is going to be some sort of “time/memory/flashback” and Meredith’s life will turn out at the end of the Greys series.
This right here was one of those moments that reminded me why this show is something else. I love how everything Mer uses to describe Jo's strength and turning everything to light completely resonates her own character as well. And I especially love the fact that the entire storyline of her meeting her mother and finding the truth was Camilla's own idea ❤❤❤
this whole speech just went down the road as Alex chose to be with Issy after all that jo did for him, and also what he did for jo....I'm just so mad at the writers why would you send Alex like this, there should have been other ways? I doubt that if i would continue watching grey's or not, because they were my favorite couple.
every time i think abt it mad bc it makes the story change but when i think abt it you have to think abt real life and how justin chambers wanted to move on
The whole thing with Justin leaving just shows that the show needs to end. Enough already. It was a great show with many wonderful themes. Now it's running out of ideas and is getting lame. I hope season 17 is short and season 18 is like 10-15 episodes. Thats how most shows end. They need to end this before they ruin every character. They just ruined the woman playing teddy, completely changed her character, because they are running of out ideas.
it would have been better if alex really was going to visit his mother but died on the way there imo, plus it would have been an amazing bonding experience between meredith and jo about both of their husbands dying 🤷🏽♀
Meredith is such a substitute mom and tries to fix emotionally and physically broken people. Even though Meredith had a hard childhood she chose to not let that mess up her future.
I love how at rhe beginning Bailey and other doctors where those who gave advice to the interns. But now Meredith is soo wise and her experiences make her like a mentor to everyone
I get Jo was annoying at some points But I don't get why people hate her so much Her and Alex are one of my favorite couples I love them together so much She is so strong
I love that despite everything that she has been through and all she has to worry about, Meredith still takes the time to go above and beyond for others
Meredith is amazing! Even though she hated Jo at the beginning she now helps in any way she can! Love you Meredith! Yoy found the power even after Derek's death......
always thrills me with this conversation, meredith expressed exactly the real bottoming out, we all have horrible days, we just want to give up, and sometimes we give up, but this is where we need the help of those who love us, I almost give up on living, but I remembered everything my mother has done for me, we all have the ability to turn our pains into light
Watching this, I felt like she was speaking directly to me. I'm not in a dark place but I grew in a really hard childhood and I've had to turn my darkness into light. It's hard and a battle every day and I've had to do it on my own. Meanwhile all of my siblings have slipped into darkness, whether it be drug or alcohol addiction. Anyway, this whole speech reminded me of my own light and my own strength, especially having watched it on Mother's day, which happened to be the 20th anniversary of my mother's death.
I love the subtlety of Ellen Pompeo to act in difficult moments. Her voice getting choked and her eyes filling with tears in 0:53 (“...to help that woman who was hurting badly...”) and 1:37 (“...and I thought to myself just for one moment I thought, ‘why fight?’ Why not just stop?’...”), ooh! Ellen is amazing!
Wow she is literally so amazing I like how they relate about there life not being all so great I remember how much mer hated jo and now mer is watching out after her
now that alex is gone, I need these two to become each other’s person. I know Mer has her sisters, but her and jo grew so much together and can relate to each other more than anyone else that is left. and pls let jo stay single for a while/ not end up with anyone who’s already running around in the hospital!
Grey's anatomy Superfan here seen all 19 seasons and season 20 been watching weekly since the fifth episode of the fifth season and course caught up on seasons 1through4 when season 5 was still airing weekly bought the seasons on DVD in January 2009 without blinking and some for the first time on lifetime reruns was definitely caught up before season 5 was over😂😂😂😂😂😂😂❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Meredith is a STRONG person, she had a harsh childhood, he mother was all about her career and Meredith came second. Derek (McDreamy) brought her into the light and showed her that she deserved to be loved, and to look at how many people loved her. I was proven when she was attacked, and Dr Webber said to Maggie you can't work on a family member, which Alex shouted, "everyone in this room is her family" she later told Alex that she didn't realize she had a village to help her raise her kids and be there for her NO MATTER the circumstances.
Meredith was always after jolex he said Alex that line I know you and Wilson aren't a thing but think about it" or something like that she was mean after that because Alex is her true friend and she also worried about him that he get hurt again but when she find out how much jo suffered she was there for her
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This is why mer is loved by so many, she is the calm in the middle of the storm. And so strong and clear and loyal too.
She has come such a long way from the dark and twisted Meredith we met in season 1
@@msfriendsfan4ever788 she was since season 1 the calm in the Storm for everyone she was the glue who glued
Izzi, Alex, Cristina and George together which was later showed what would have happened when Ellis never got Alzheimer's and we're married to Richard
In this alternate universe/dream Meredith never became friends with izzi, George and Cristina
Izzi was known as the crazy one , George the one who failed his exam and never was heard of, and Yang became more Yang than Yang
However in the shows universe she glued them all so together that,
George when he failed his exam stayed
She and the rest protected izzi (because Meredith insisted) and Meredith came up with a plan because of the Danny thing,
Cristina told everyone about her cancler, without Meredith Cristina wouldn't care about izzi
Alex changed because of Izzy
Which means Meredith really was the calm Im storm for everyone since the beginning (atleast if she cares about someone)
Without Meredith as glue
Izzi would probably thrown out from the program or would have left, maybe killed herself because of Denny but definitely would have died in a mental hospital because of cancler which gave her hallucinations
Derek !!! Our twisted Meredith found Derek and that changed her ❤️❤️❤️❤️
see now, SHE’s the man in the storm
I honestly think her ability to listen and read people probably came from being raised by her mother. I betcha the fictional Ellis Grey wasn't much for listening, especially to a child, so she probably learned early how to listen and read people. She knows when to talk and when to listen.
I love the dark and twisty Meredith shining through here! She knows how to help Jo because she knows what it’s like to feel dark and twisty
Love!! Great insight
Only if people in real life understood dark and twisty.
don’t compare depression to being “dark and twisty”
@@nataliaisabella6705 why not? Depression isn’t sunshine and rainbows is it? It takes its form in many ways, and dark and twisty is one of them. In this show, dark and twisty might come off as a joke for merediths character but in reality she is dark and twisty. Her brain is. She’s a lot more depressed than it can sometimes be made out to be. You don’t try to drown yourself and not have some ounce of depression and dark and twisty thoughts.
@@leahheapp totally agree weather u call it dark and twisty or for me falling in the hole its just how people try to explain their feelings to others who may not really know what they are going thru
I love how Meredith has so many life experiences to relate with. You stole a baby? Been there done that. Miscarriage? Bet it wasn’t as bad as mine. Gone blind? Right here. Your boyfriend has a wife? I’m your girl. Plane crash? Talk to me. Your boyfriends ex fiancé came back from the dead? Yeah it’s happened a few times. Discovered a half sister. Coolio. Another half sister? Don’t worry. Did your dad ask for a liver? No problem. A hospital shooting? Been there once or twice. Your best friend has cancer? It’s fine. Your best friend got hit by a bus or moved to Switzerland? You’ll be okay. Are you a widow now? Got nothing to worry about. Are you slightly suicidal? Same girl, same. Is your half sister dead now? Is your hand somehow in a body cavity with a bomb? It’s not as bad as it sounds. C-section and splenectomy during a power outage? Wanna run away to San Diego? Your best friend got left at the altar? Your wedding became your friends wedding? Divorced parents? Mother had an affair? Mother is also slightly suicidal? Wanna try out bangs? Go for it.
I could go on forever but you get my point lol
Marigold Green wanna try out bangs, 😂😂
hahhahaaaaa
San Diego? When did Meredith go to San Diego? I know she ran off to Boston. Addison Shepherd ran off to San Diego.
Otherwise, this is hilarious!!!
@@erauprcwa Addison went to LA and after Derek died Meredith and kids run off to San Diego for about a year and there she had Ellis. Meredith's mom run off to Boston
@@livux4156 Oh, I didn't realize it was San Diego, I thought she went to Boston, like her mother...
Thanks for the info. The way they played the scene when Ellis was born, it was juxtaposed with Meredith's mother's suicide attempt.
Meredith, Jo, and Amelia may be examples of what doesn't kill you makes you stronger, but getting stronger is no walk in the park.
well said
@@Muratzhangabayev974 you obviously haven't seen the whole show and private practice then
@@narayastarkswhat are you talking about
@@GrqciesanatomyAmelia is a train wreck is what's implied and it's still true
That saying maybe true I don't want to go through anything again. 😂
Reminds me of the talks Derek used to give Meredith. Similar to when he proposed. I like that they brought up the Sound.
what sound?
Iroon2007 it’s the name of the ocean she fell in and almost died in
@@Iroon2007 Elliot Bay 😭😭😭
Iroon2007 Puget Sound
I like that they brought it up because when it happened it wasn't clear if she fought or not
The moment Meredith said she didn't fight when she was in the water, you can see Jo's hope back in her eyes. She never witnessed all of Meredith's dark and twisty moments (George's death, the shooting, the plane crash, etc. ) and even though she was around when Derek died, they weren't friends. Meredith opening up about how she didn't want to fight gave Jo hope that she could overcome her depression and she could get help. Love this scene, love the acting 💜
Ya that’s the one thing that she should talk about more, she keeps to many things like she helped jo by telling a story about her. There was scenes that I was like tell that person what happened to you and she will find hope. But Meredith keeps it to herself and only takes it out when someone is in crisis. Yes her story’s are delicate but if it’s going to help someone why not just tell them.
I don’t think it’s that she had hope at that moment. I think it’s her realizing “OMG, Meredith Grey, THE Meredith Grey, one of the best surgeons in the country and one of the best people I’ve ever met, didn’t fight? Meredith Grey felt worthless just like I do? She actually understands what I’ve been feeling this whole time?”
Very moving scene, when Meredith re-lives the moment when she fell in the water and decided not to fight the drowning. All GA fans would remember that episode very well and the sad circumstances surrounding it - Meredith's growing depression, lack of self-worth and importance, measured by her mother's lack of faith in her! Calling her extraordinary daughter "ordinary".
Amelia was right, Meredith was the only person who could help Jo fight her depression, lack of self-worth and importance.
We’ve got the same user name omg
@@monalisasmile27 😀 Great minds...😉 👍
No. Amelia could have done a better job. The writers just made it all about Meredith needing to save the day again. I wonder how she is going to save DeLuca from what she did? I bet that they give her another award just for breaking the law.
@@logann-mackenziefroste563 Amelia was also qualified, yes but they don't really have a close relationship, do they? I doubt Jo would've 'let her in'. Whereas, Meredith was a sort of mentor to Jo and a friend. After giving her a hard time for so long, Meredith realised Jo was good for Alex.
None of the other characters are in Jo's exact position but Meredith would at least, understand depression and suicidal behaviour. Amelia too, has battled her demons but that doesn't mean she was necessarily the best person to convince Jo to get the help she needs.
@@logann-mackenziefroste563 I think Meredith will want to admit it was her, to save Andrew but I think Richard and Alex will stop her.
We all need a Meredith grey in our lives. Someone who will say “I’m not leaving this bed until you talk to me” and “I’ve got you. Sometimes we don’t need fixed, we just need someone to say “i got you, and I’m not leaving you”
Well said, agree!
Yesss the world doesn't deserve her 😭😭🤩🤩 she's too perfect
Jk we ALL deserve a great, true friend like her
Life would be soooo much better for A LOT of people if we had that ONE person to go to
If I had someone like her in my life, then maybe, just maybe, I’d survive. I’m so much like jo except for the fact that I don’t have someone to save me like Meredith saved her.
Meredith sounds like how Christina would for her. I even see parts of Jackson’s speech for Meredith when she won her award.
When was Christina this supportive? I don’t remember it
@@jenniferferguson1517 Lol, are you kidding?)))
Jennifer Ferguson maybe cristina wasnt as verbal with her emotional support but she was always there for her. Always.
Jennifer Ferguson she freaking saved her best friends husband (love of her life) while a gunman holds his weapon against her forehead 😠 when this isn’t support I don’t know what it is 🤷🏼♀️
why is no crying here again?
Jo's face when she realizes the great Meredith Grey has stopped before. Love this scene.
Ellen Pompeo has the best lines in the shows, and the way she says them, from the bottom of her heart, it's just so Brilliant!
There's just something about Ellen's voice, tone and her delivery that is so endearing it will be so hard for her words not to reach you.
"i dont want to stop but ido" omg rigth into my heart and memories, it gave chills
Meztli Vazquez what does she mean by that
And Jo's face after she said "and i do" i felt that look. That look she gave Meredith like yearning for some glimpse of help
Yes! Thank you for a good representation of what depression feels like. Not something that can be solved with a cute pep talk and a week of good sleep.
Exactly....
Something like this has happened to me with my depression and anxiety. There was one day where I felt like I wanted to stop but I also really didn’t want to stop. It was terrifying, and I thought I was going insane. My mom was there for me like Mer was there for Jo, and she helped me withdraw from college and go to a community college for the year while we get the help I needed.
While I don’t like having those memories and emotions come back, this video, while it did bring back those memories, it really made me appreciate the fact that I had someone like Meredith there for me.
@@NaviNeku24 Hope you're in a better place now. I'm glad you have people around you who loves and supports you :)
Evil spawn aww I miss Cristina
Me too!!
Cristina !!!
JK TV ik I just miss her on the show anybody who watches greys knows Cristina was the first person to call him that
😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
@JK TV we know
Meredith has saved so many people.
Omg wow rlly I had no idea omg wiw
I wish life was as well written as this. I’ve encountered so many people that are as lost, depressed and in pain as Jo in this scene and I could almost never find the words to help pull them back.
in real life, it doesnt matter, what exact words you say. it s about showing love and support. but most importantly the other person has to want to get back on track and really work for it too.
It's possible. In order to truly help someone with darkness you have to had already lived it. Embraced it.
Two summers ago I had a medication side effect that caused muscle spasms so bad it dislocated my jaw. I couldn't eat. I couldn't talk. I could barely swallow at all. I could though, throw up, and after a few weeks of that your stomach starts to tear itself apart. I was throwing up blood and none of my doctors cared. I thought I was going to die and I was okay with it. My step dad ordered my favorite pizza and pasta thinking it would get me to eat. I decided to try and I didn't care if I choked and died. I just wanted to taste food, even if it was the last thing I did. I was able to get a little food down and I survived but I was okay with either outcome.
Do you know what helped me most after that? What helped me be "okay" again? An 80 year old man who reminded me of all the times he's almost died. "I've been almost dying my entire life." is the single most powerful sentence anyone could have said. It's not about the words. It's about what they mean.
Ever since then I have become suddenly decent at advice. I understand the feeling of darkness that Meredith talked about here. I had my swim or sink moment and I didn't care about the outcome. I came back from that. I came back from a lot more. Sometimes you have to taste darkness to be able to speak it's language.
@@omac18 we dont even know each other, but it made my day to know that you're well now. 🖤🌿☀️
@@omac18, your explanation is only one possibility of many different possible ways to help. i have had plenty of true help from people who had never been in a similary dark place. on the other hand, just because soneone has been there and embraced it, as you call it, doesn't mean, their way would fit all others. understanding someones pain can be helpful, but doesn't fix anything yet. and, again, if a person doesn't want to put effort into their own healing then noone else could help.
@@eliasgall3089 You Also have to understand that it's not only about "effort", dear. When depression is severe to the point of not beign able to get up from the bed (physically, not mentally), it's hard to strive for something on a chemical level. This DISEASE kills you from the inside. You don't say a person recovering from surgery or chemo that they " need to get up" blah blah, you give the time to recover and gain strength.
You sound like person who loves to speak about depression but doesn't really understand what it really is. You can't cure depression by sheer force of will, please understand it before spreading ignorance
Blessed are those with friends like her... them !!
Can we just appreciate the great example of talking about suicidality and depression in a non-threatening way? Like 👌🏼👌🏼
Amelia was right, if anyone could help Jo it was Meredith. Amelia knows Meredith we’ll because as she has mentioned in previous episodes she never had a real sister that “got her” until she met Mer. She will stand by your side and help you out of the darkest places, because she had so many and always comes up on top. She also loves Jo, because she deserves Meredith love. That’s a rare thing Meredith does not open up.
It's a show my dude
I mean you right
But still it scripted
Anne Mcdermott in which episode does amelia say that thing about never having a real sister till mer? Im curious and i want to rewatch!
@@anan3367 i forgot the episode but she was having a conversation with maggie
i think jo is also like a sister to her now
Amelia's sisterhood with ADDISON in pp is always glazed over as in some sort of acquaintance in greys.
I just rewatched season 12 and Meredith used to be so mean to Jo lol. I love their evolution.
Yeah she was mean omg
I'm watching a rerun on Netflix, and I'm also on season 12 lol. Blake just came over for dinner at mares house
Just shows how much character development Meredith has gone through these past three seasons since. Seeing her be so open, and kind, and understanding of Jo is just very satisfying to me after so much tension between them in the past. Part of the resentment Mer had for Jo had to have been because she felt Jo wasn't "good" for Alex (among other reasons, like her not wanting to lose her "person" to Jo, which is very understandable because who wants to lose their best friend to their significant other?). It takes a minute to get Meredith to break down her walls for you, but when she does, she's THERE, she's _always_ there. Being kinder to Jo is also doing Alex a kindness as well.
Meredith hasn't had a single dark and twisty moment this whole season. She's unpacked so much shit in her life (most recently, Derek's death) that she feels lighter, so now that she's lighter for _herself,_ she can be lighter for others and help unpack _their_ shit. I love this scene. It shows her growth as a person.
I lover her character development over time. She was mean to Lexie too. And who would’ve thought her and Karev would’ve been close friends like they are now.
Well her husband did JUST die.. Don't think she really cared about being super nice to anyone.
I remember when Jo had her very first scene with Meredith and thought of her as the terrifying “Medusa” the same way the OGs did with Bailey in season 1. Now they have such a personal friendship and connection. It’s amazing to see how much Meredith has grown since season 1 and now seeing how Jo has become such a strong woman who has faced so much heartache.
Their friendship has evolved so much! It's beautiful to see! ❤️❤️❤️
Camila Brasil friendship?? Mer never considered her as a friend! Just like the girlfriend to Alex which is Her true old friend but no Jo
Laurene Adler exactly, she’s Alex’s person so she’s being nice to her and looking out for her
Laurene Adler I don’t agree with you. They may not have been friends before but surely they are now. Meredith understood all of Jo's pain, showed her the incredible and wonderful person she is by turning all her suffering into good actions for other people and now she has found help to get better. Merjo is so beautiful and i love this friendship! But i respect your opinion 🙂
@@1981bellaswan Yes, friendship. And actually they were working together for a while, which helped them to bond, but probably you missed this.
Eugeniya Leshenko I missed a part of season 14... So I guess I was wrong on their bond...
I'm so happy, this isn't the sort of thing to be resolved in one episode but it's a start, and that's all that is needed
this is such a beautiful scene, in a dark and twisty kind of way. meredith is so calm and clear, and honest... and just what jo needed.
I have had too many rough chapters like this in my life where I have been under the covers for days, even weeks. I wished I had had someone who would have hold my hand like this and just gotten me to the shower. I like this scene and the compassion and understanding Meredith shows to Jo.
Jona, I am sorry you have had rough chapters like this. Hopefully life is treating you better these days. Virtual hugs
I LOVED how Meredith convinced Jo that despite what she was born from she is strong and beautiful. After hearing Jo's fantasy as a child, I wish that Meredith would have hugged her until Jo felt safe.
1:21 this hit different because EVERY Grey's fan WENT THROUGH THIS and to hear it being talked about over a decade later... that's still heavy.
“Well I’m not gonna start lying to you *now* ”
Love that!!
Love Meredith, she'll always be my favourite!
This is really one of the most beautiful, touching and intense scenes I've ever seen in grey's in years!!! Never give up guys! Life is so beautiful especially when you're sorrounded by your loved ones
That's not about "giving up", it's about severe debilitating DEPRESSION. Please don't say that " life is beautiful" to depressed people, NEVER
My comment does not want to express any kind of offence or harm to anyone. I am nobody to say anything like that to people who suffer and I would not even dare. It is a just a message of hope and positivity, appreciating the support Meredith has given Jo and the help your friends or people who really cares could give. That's all. Have a nice day.
Just look at Mer... the tears in her eyes... she was just so scared that who could say « I wanna stop ». Argh, it hurts, I love their friendship so much ❤️
May we all have a friend like Meredith when we are going through something and feeling low.
I just want Jo to be normal again and be happy with Karev!
Paul Ann agreed!
What happend to her ?
@@dania2369 she's disturbed after meeting her birth mom
She depressed not “abnormal”
It will take her. Awhile to accept that she is a product of rape. She cant just go back to normal
This is a testament to how much they've allowed Mer to grow over the years. She's not dark and twisty anymore. Now she sees the brighter side, but she hasn't forgotten what that was like. Props to Ellen and Camilla here.
Does anybody else hear the second voice saying "slipped"??
i herd it here. but not when i was watching the full episode
TheMadisonPaige yeah it’s kinda weird maybe a glitch or something
The second voice is her from the earlier seasons
Creepy
I don’t think it’s a glitch. I think this is foreshadowing. There is going to be some sort of “time/memory/flashback” and Meredith’s life will turn out at the end of the Greys series.
This right here was one of those moments that reminded me why this show is something else. I love how everything Mer uses to describe Jo's strength and turning everything to light completely resonates her own character as well.
And I especially love the fact that the entire storyline of her meeting her mother and finding the truth was Camilla's own idea ❤❤❤
the acting by both Ellen and Camilla is insane!
This is why i love Meredith Grey! Such an incredible speech.
*i think this is when jo truly realised WHY alex loved mer so much*
Always loved Jo. Shes always been amazing and never been able to see it in herself.
Bailey took Meredith under her wing
Now
Mer is taking Jo under her wing
this whole speech just went down the road as Alex chose to be with Issy after all that jo did for him, and also what he did for jo....I'm just so mad at the writers why would you send Alex like this, there should have been other ways? I doubt that if i would continue watching grey's or not, because they were my favorite couple.
every time i think abt it mad bc it makes the story change but when i think abt it you have to think abt real life and how justin chambers wanted to move on
The whole thing with Justin leaving just shows that the show needs to end. Enough already. It was a great show with many wonderful themes. Now it's running out of ideas and is getting lame. I hope season 17 is short and season 18 is like 10-15 episodes. Thats how most shows end. They need to end this before they ruin every character. They just ruined the woman playing teddy, completely changed her character, because they are running of out ideas.
it would have been better if alex really was going to visit his mother but died on the way there imo, plus it would have been an amazing bonding experience between meredith and jo about both of their husbands dying 🤷🏽♀
I love Mer's pants, and her advice to Jo, so hearthwarming, it comes from the heart..
I love this friendship with my whole soul.
Meredith is such a substitute mom and tries to fix emotionally and physically broken people. Even though Meredith had a hard childhood she chose to not let that mess up her future.
I really love how far they had come.Meredith went from not even “Knowing her” to loving her there friendship had really grown
This was a really well-acted scene. So impressed with Ellen Pompeo.
"I slipped..." thank you very much i'm crying
Meredith fixes everything omg imagine not loving her 😭💖
Her mentioning the drowning killed me! 😳
We don't get enough of Meredith and Jo moments like this.
To see how far these two have come as friends is great. Absolutely loved this scene.
I love how at rhe beginning Bailey and other doctors where those who gave advice to the interns. But now Meredith is soo wise and her experiences make her like a mentor to everyone
God I wish I had a friend like Mer, she’s amazing and she always knows what to say or what to do
Usually the happy ones who make people smile and care a lot about people are the ones who are depressed all the time.
I get Jo was annoying at some points
But I don't get why people hate her so much
Her and Alex are one of my favorite couples
I love them together so much
She is so strong
She is too useless , that’s why could never feel for her
@@sweetspicy7880 she helped so many people how is that useless
1:14-1:21 that short music with this moment 😍😍😍
I love that despite everything that she has been through and all she has to worry about, Meredith still takes the time to go above and beyond for others
Reminds me of the Izzy on the bathroom floor scene
I really needed this today thank you Grey’s Anatomy for sharing this story.
15 seasons and it still makes me sob
This episodes really helps me on my trials.
I love the grown relationship between Jo and Meredith. Im living for this friendship
Look at the dark and twisty, twisted sister, Meredith growin and maturing, dishin out the amazing mom speech we all wished we got...
I love jo and mer moments. We need more
Wow this made me cry. I hope I have a friend like Mer someday. ❤️❤️❤️
you will
Nancy Nyaguthii 💕
Meredith is amazing!
Even though she hated Jo at the beginning she now helps in any way she can!
Love you Meredith!
Yoy found the power even after Derek's death......
Meredith has grown up so much from the dark & twisty Mer of season 1, this is very emotional.
Song - Benjamin Francis Leftwich - Gratitude
always thrills me with this conversation, meredith expressed exactly the real bottoming out, we all have horrible days, we just want to give up, and sometimes we give up, but this is where we need the help of those who love us, I almost give up on living, but I remembered everything my mother has done for me, we all have the ability to turn our pains into light
Watching this, I felt like she was speaking directly to me. I'm not in a dark place but I grew in a really hard childhood and I've had to turn my darkness into light. It's hard and a battle every day and I've had to do it on my own. Meanwhile all of my siblings have slipped into darkness, whether it be drug or alcohol addiction. Anyway, this whole speech reminded me of my own light and my own strength, especially having watched it on Mother's day, which happened to be the 20th anniversary of my mother's death.
just imagine having meredith as a therapist
Meredith talks about how strong and how much Jo has gone through but she don’t releases how strong she is and how much se has gone through!
I love the subtlety of Ellen Pompeo to act in difficult moments. Her voice getting choked and her eyes filling with tears in 0:53 (“...to help that woman who was hurting badly...”) and 1:37 (“...and I thought to myself just for one moment I thought, ‘why fight?’ Why not just stop?’...”), ooh! Ellen is amazing!
Such a good representation of how a talk about suicidal ideation and depression should be.
I’m glad that Mer has grown to realize that she did attempt and that her therapist has helped
Wow she is literally so amazing I like how they relate about there life not being all so great I remember how much mer hated jo and now mer is watching out after her
now that alex is gone, I need these two to become each other’s person. I know Mer has her sisters, but her and jo grew so much together and can relate to each other more than anyone else that is left. and pls let jo stay single for a while/ not end up with anyone who’s already running around in the hospital!
This scene has helped me sm. Love Mer.💕
"well, I'm not gonna start lying to you now" - love this line ❤
Grey's anatomy Superfan here seen all 19 seasons and season 20 been watching weekly since the fifth episode of the fifth season and course caught up on seasons 1through4 when season 5 was still airing weekly bought the seasons on DVD in January 2009 without blinking and some for the first time on lifetime reruns was definitely caught up before season 5 was over😂😂😂😂😂😂😂❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Meredith is a STRONG person, she had a harsh childhood, he mother was all about her career and Meredith came second. Derek (McDreamy) brought her into the light and showed her that she deserved to be loved, and to look at how many people loved her. I was proven when she was attacked, and Dr Webber said to Maggie you can't work on a family member, which Alex shouted, "everyone in this room is her family" she later told Alex that she didn't realize she had a village to help her raise her kids and be there for her NO MATTER the circumstances.
When jo sed I don’t want to stop and I do you can tell on Merediths face that she felt so bad for her and just wanted to help her it’s so heartwarming
I love how strong is meredith and Jo went through a lot and I hope he is well because he deserves it.
This ending made me so mad...I need more!!!!!
There will never be another mer
I freaking love Dr. Meredith Grey ❤❤
mers voice is so soothing when your sad 10/10 coping
I love Jo. I love her so much. She’s amazing 🥰
Meredith was always after jolex he said Alex that line I know you and Wilson aren't a thing but think about it" or something like that she was mean after that because Alex is her true friend and she also worried about him that he get hurt again but when she find out how much jo suffered she was there for her
Meredith is that BFF that we all wish we had
Alex would probably still be evil spawn 🤣😆 Alex would not be the man he is without loving you or being love by you! ❤️❤️💕
Aww I miss yang! 💔😞😆
I kinda ship them now.
Meredith's speech descrbes both of them perfectly
Dear god, I need a friend like Meredith.
love is not just about saving someone, but sometimes letting them save you
This reminds me a lot of cristina and mer moments in the first seasons
Todos/as deberíamos tener a una Meredith Grey en nuestras vidas❤
I LOVE JO AND MER SO MUCH. JO IS MY FAVORITE CHARACTER AND HER STORYLINE IS SO RELATABLE AND REAL. Ahhhh!
To all the jo's stay strong...❤️
Meredith Grey is the human embodiment of the “Man in the Hole”
Edit: Spelling error
God I LIVE for this show!!!
that's the reason why we need friends and people who love us