I am going back to Nikon.... The old Nikon D800 DSLR in 2022 - can you see any difference?
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Love those colours mate, some magical shots in his one. Love that frsne with the slight motion blur on he humming bird❤
Peter!! I was dark and sprinkling. I was shooting at such a slow shutter speed for that long of a lens. I was just happy I got something. And.... it was fun!!! 🙏💖🤗
Some really great captures, John!
Thank you, thank you, thank you!!! 🙏🤗❤
Great job John. The D800 was my first venture into full frame cameras. I don’t regret having it one bit. Love the colors and everything about that camera. Even though it went swimming in Japan without my permission 😂😂😂 I’m glad I ended up with the D850. Amazing shots in this buddy, cheers for sharing 🤙🙏
Adrian - I think about your swimming camera a lot.... and keep mine strapped constantly for that reason. The D850 is a AMAZING camera with Nikon color - and I love the focus peaking..... but I know I have said it - the D800 had and has a magic in the images that no other camera had for my eyes. The Z9 had that too and I was impressed. For the next month, i am going to shoot nothing but this wonderful old body (the camera, not mine 😂🤣), and after that..... I do plan on getting the Z9 - I think I need to really test all aspects of what it can do and to to do that, I would have to own it...... man..... I guess Ill have to take one for the Nikon team. Thank you, thank you my friend!!! 🙏🤗💖
Yes I agree, D800/E are fantastic and produces amazing images. I'm running the Z9 now, and it was so hard to part from my F mount.
I am using my F mount glass on my Z9!!!! Waiting for the 800mm PF or the 200-600. I don't think either will be available this year so for now.... F mount adapted to the Z9!!! In all actuality, I keep wanting to rent some Z glass but I think the 400 is just too short and the images I am getting are making me happy! 🙏🤗❤
Great video, great shots and great info John!👏
Thank you Bill!!!! I really just enjoy being out shooting. I forget sometimes how much I love this old camera! 🙏🤗💖
@@JonnyPink65 Sometimes using my older gear makes me feel I’m doing more ‘work’ to get the image, like back in the film days.
@@Eli4Bill It feels awesome!! I forgot that feeling. 💖
Great video . UPS just dropped off my New to me D800. It only has 4750 clicks on it and I think it will be great for landscapes . I have a D750 I use for Drag Racing. I had a 200 to 500 and had a lot of issues with it and sold it. I think maybe this summer I'll give a new one a try. Keep up the great videos !
Thank you, thank you!!! If I found with with a low shutter count like that, I would buy it also. That is awesome. When I rented the 200500 to go with the Z9 I rented, I was really impressed with that lens. It was on sale over the holidays so I bought is..... and I love it. More so than the Tamron I used to use. 🙏❤🤗
Another great video!
Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!!!! 🙏🤗💖
👍👍👍👌 Great shots.
Thank you, thank you!! 🙏💖🤗
Dang you got some really amazing shots of those humming birds with such a creamy background. No need for all the super expensive tools if you know how to use what you have
Thank you - all smoke, mirrors, and editing!!! No, you have used the 300mm lens and are welcome to anytime. It is...... simply amazing. This 200-500 I used here is also AMAZING and I am glad I bought it - I sent you a link. I have really enjoyed shooting the Z9, and now the D800 again. It is eating me alive not having the Z9 in my hands...... 🙏🤗💖
I've heard people say that after the Nikon D800, we hit a point of diminishing returns. This video PROVES THIS XD. When a 10 year old DSLR produces images that are 99.9% of the image quality of a brand new $5000 camera for a FRACTION of the cost... we need to start questioning whether buying/making new cameras are even worth it anymore!
That is well put. The images I get out of this are every bit as sharp as from the Z9. The video capabilities, the EVF and eye tracking are awesome in new cameras but if I were going to do portraits again or an event where I was not worried about the sound, I would grab the D800. It is my all time favorite camera. Many that have shot DSLRs - D5 / D6 / D850say the same thing. I will say that those just getting into photography like having all the bells and whistles that the new cameras offer.... and they don't have the experience to use the older ones to get the results. Thank you, thank you! 🙏🤗💖
@@JonnyPink65 Also, as far as the “bells and whistles” go when it comes to taking still frames, once cameras got to a point where they were “good enough” 99% of that stuff can be achieved outside of camera in Photoshop or Lightroom etc. The new cameras are basically nothing but 10 year old sensors with sales gimmicks at this point IMO lol
@@FennixGamingYT I respect your opinion for sure. The older camera's have advantages (for those with knowledge and experience), and the new ones have advantages for newer and experienced shooters. I do think less with the new camera's. As far as editing, I think that is something that also takes practice..... and with AI some are losing that touch as well. But even a turd can only be polished so far with AI 😂 I have seen too many that have bought the latest and greatest based on UA-cam and it just does not turn out the way that expect. Ah well 🤗💖
Depends on how you use the camera. Mirrorless are good for birds and video. I'm not interested in Mirrorless yet because I take woodland pictures. I will get a Nikon mirrorless when it has 55Mpix resolution. I'm seriously thinking about getting the Fuji 100s system in the future, if I can afford it. I’m currently upgrading my Nikon F system before retirement to last 10 more years.
Your passion is great. The 800 will do that to you. There is just something about that sensor that cant be beat. Now you have me looking for a 200-500. I shot Canon as well. I like the Nikon colors more. Keep up the good work.
Thank you, thank you!!! To this day, I think the D800 is one of the best camera bodies ever made. It is fun to shoot. 🙏🤗💖
Johnny pink, great video and brand comparisons.
Man, I can not thank you enough!!! I am one of you "peeps"!!! Watching your stuff is what made me want to rent it. Now..... to buy it! 🙏🤗💖
wow, that's an honor.
D800 holds up very well for todays standards. I recently also got he D800E. After some comparison the E version is indeed sharper. It almost looks like the resolution is higher with the E version which is not of course. Both 36MP but they applied different low pass filters. The difference is not shocking but noticable.
Thank you for that info. I have been comparing the D800 to the Z9 and it is so close. I will keep looking for another D800 but will also watch for an E version. Thank you for the info!!! 🙏❤🤗
I got a D800E with less than 2K on the shutter count from H
Japan with free shipping for about $700.
Great job! I have a bit of experience with the R5 and am a z9 owner. While the af is definitely a bit harder to use in the z9 I feel it’s comparable or maybe even superior to the r5 if used properly. You really have to get used to using wide area large and 3d af modes. Wide area for flying birds and 3d for perched birds. The z9 his quite an advanced camera so you’ll definitely need more time to fully understand it. Also lens selection is critical and I believe the Nikon 200-500 does not perform well with the z9 as it’s af is quite slow compared to newer lenses. Love the videos, keep them coming!
Thank you John!!! I only had the Z9 for 4 days so I was just happy I had set it up enough to get a couple of good photos. I went though the setting before going out the next morning and set it similar to my R5, and shot is like a DSLR watching all my settings. My favorite all time camera was and still is the Nikon D800 hands down. There is just something in the images to my eye, that I call magical. It is the only camera I have found that has it. It has nothing to do with the clarity, For landscapes and even still for portraits, it is my go to. The Z9 has that same magic and that excited and impressed me. There is so much that it can do that when I do own the Z9, I don't think I will ever fully understand it, .... just enough to take a couple of good photos and that will make me happy!! Thank you thank you John 🙏💖🤗
D800 , smiling face here ! colors, colors and colors again... deep blacks , no tinge ... pure realism I love this 36Mp sensor...
Tried the D850... and there was somting artificial "feel" about the files... could be me, could be the software , but the D800E was better in my test. ( ISO 200 ,max 800 was used)
And mostly, you need a crop and on DX the D850 = 19.5Mp where the D800E = 15.3 , 4.2Mp difference is hard to distinguish from each other.. and does not make a eye square instead off rond.
Never tried the z9, not in my budget , but did had some files He* and : no coment 🤔 The lossless compressed , a bit like the D850 files not a world shocking difference ( was taken on the latest 500 f4.0FL lens, so must be perfect)
Thanks for this video
I completely understand. Out of all the Nikons I have owned and used, including the D850, the D800 just has a look that speaks to me. No other Nikon had quite the same feel - the D3200 came really close. The Z9, at least when I rented it, has the same feeling. I am really stupid with money and it is not in my budget either, but I believe in living for today, so I bought one on credit. If I cant pay for it, Ill sell it and then pay it off. I switched to Canon for the tech and do enjoy the color, but it is not quite the same. When I took my old D800 out for a spin a couple months ago, I fell in love with it all over again. I shoot in full frame and just crop in when editing. I dont know if any of it makes a difference but that is what works for me. I have tried several Sony's as well and was disappointed with the raw flat colors every time. I am all about what works for me and what I want to present. I had a D500 and hated it Thank you for letting me share my video and photos. I do want to rent some of the latest and greatest lenses to compare to my older ones at some point - that will be fun!!! 💖🙏🤗
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Thanks for this comment..
I do want more "analog feel" instead of to pure digital colors, a lot of CMOS sensors lack the "dirty colors", grey/color mixtures , pastel shades.. pure deep blacks and not some very dark brown or blue that immitate a black appearance , just pure black in the grey scale and not in the color scale..
There fore , a lot do still like the old CCD technique instead of the CMOS that , when it is a cheap model , can kluster pixels so that the real Mp in detail is lower, and have some 40x over written 4 bit jpg feel with "bleeding" colors , even when 14 Bit RAW is used.
To me, and al lot of more fans of CCD , the D200 is someting special.. A bit Kodachome 64 effect.. ( Old tech , not the best AF, low DR etc etc.. if you find one, try it for fun on the 500mm f4.0 on a sunny day , CCD is at its best with water droplets, pure whites , no tinge ) and the lens does have its impact of course.. , good glass does help for realism.
The more analog camera's we see in this order :
D200(10Mp CCD)= 24Mp Fullframe in DX mode , so not that bad), D40X(10Mp CCD), D80 (10Mp CCD), D800E, D800,( both in every way far superior, but just a tiny bit more "digital") D3X ( 24Mp , a bit more "fat colors , but analog feel) , D700...and Sony A7R4 with old RPP software .and cleaned up in PhSh , very very good !!
@@kaak4737 Thank you for the information, I have been looking for an older camera to play with for fun - I will look at the D200 - sounds like fun!! 🙏💖🤗
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A bit overdone by me, it is not that extreme as in this video , CMOS has some mushy haze , ccd does not ua-cam.com/video/vXt7CpVMTM8/v-deo.html
Once you recognise it, it can not be unseen anymore , the D800/D800E are very " clean" of this, the CMOS is perfect
@@kaak4737 That must be what makes me happy!!! 🤗
Great wildlife shoots 👍👍👍. I got a d800 and d3s and iam thinking of get rid of them and buy the z 7ii or 7iii when it's out. What has the d800 that the z don't have?
Well, comparing the Z9 to the D800 - both are amazing cameras - the Z9 is newer and probable has a small bit more of a dynamic range. I may also be prejudiced as the D800 was and still is my all time favorite camera. The eye tracking of the Z9 in 3d is pretty awesome.... and the EVF and other easily visibly setting in the Z9 are also pretty awesome. I like using different systems and seeing what works and what does not for the way I shoot. The D800 as older tech does not shoot as fast, but I prefer the single point focus on the D800 over the Z9 - strengths and weaknesses. Both are pretty amazing. The D3 should be the same way. I can not speak to the Z7 or any other Z bodies because up until the Z9, I think that Nikon was left behind as far as tech goes. That was why I started shooting Canon. 🙏🤗❤
Hi John, Just wondering if you came across a setting where the flash pops up automatically when reaching a minimum shutter speed ???
I have not. If I needed flash, I either put one on and planned to shoot that way, just put it up for the those shots. 🙏💖🤗
Gorgeous images!! Did you shoot these in continuous or single? FYI, I own 4 x NIKON FF bodies. 2 x D800 a D800e and D810 and although I use Fujifilm now for most of my work, I think I may go back to shooting Nikon more often.
Benjamin, thank you, thank you!!! I keep it in continuous high at all times for wildlife even if the bird is perched. I use single point focus and since it is subjective with the camera, so a couple of mm makes a difference even though I have my focus point on the eye - I AM THE EYE AF!! I shoot everything in raw and JPEG so I can look at the JPEGs to see which ones I really like and look at focus. I put the jpeg and raw that I like into another folder, dump everything else, then go through the raw photos again when looking and processing in light room. I only pic the best of what I shot and figure what I missed, I will get next time. This THIS D800 has always been my favorite camera and I forgot how much I loved the picture quality. I went to the D850, then to Canon with the R5 and then the R7 (Nikon was just keeping up). On a whim one Saturday or Sunday, I pulled it out and went out shooting..... man, I was in love all over again. I don't need the bells and whistles, and found that having to think about each shot made me feel like a photographer again - it was awesome. Out of all the Nikon cameras, the D800 for me just has a magic that no others did..... until the Z9 that a recently rented. Oh man...... So until I can afford one, i am going to be shooting the magical D800. I know it sounds really strange, but another photographer understands. And even up until Covid, for portraits, this was the one. I have not taken work since all of that but it would still be the go-to. It is amazing!!! 🙏💖🤗
@@JonnyPink65 Some of my favorite photos from last year were shot on a day when I was actually sick with Covid and was "quarantined" but got so sick of sitting around the house that I said screw it, I'm going out to take pictures. I needed some fresh air. And needed to see the sun. I stayed with my tripod and shot until the sun had gone all the way down. I live in Montana. How about you John?
@@lukeventers4755 Montana - I am sure you have some stunning skys and stunning views!! Nothing is better than getting out with a camera. I am in sunless (used to be sunny) southern California in the San Fernando Valley. I think that when we do what we feel without expectation as you did, is when the passion comes out and we do our best because we are feeling it and not thinking about it. It goes for everything 🙏💖🤗
I use Fuji x-Pro 1+ 18 to 55mm and X-T1 + 55-200mm for exprimental work and local wildlife. I use Nikon for serious photo
@@thomaseriksson6256 I have reluctantly agreed to shoot a wedding in September and the only 85mm I have is a Tamron that I forgot I had. I will put it on the D800 for my close shots. It was amazing before, and will still be amazing now. 🙏🤗💖
Can you use a wu-1b adapter for smart phones 😊
Looking it up, it looks like you can but I have not used that so have no direct information. 🙏🤗💖
I have 3 FF Nikon bodies D3 D700 and D800 they all serve a purpose and produce great quality results
Amen. The reason they produce great results is YOU. You know how to use them to get a great shot. The new cameras are an absolute blast to shoot, but you really have to think about every shot with the older cameras and that is so much fun. I have been looking at older FF Nikons for just that reason - fun. Thank you, thank you!!! 🙏❤🤗
@@JonnyPink65 thanks John, they are a beautiful tool to use they help me achieve the results I like and want. I now only shoot for my own pleasure and as hobby. I was a ex army photographer in the 80s , where my issued camera was a Nikon FM I still have one today , I shot weddings presentations and portraits with it. my current FF Nikons help me out we are a team as good as each other that’s how I see it my cameras are tools yes but they have different tools to do a job.
@@JonnyEnglish-gu1cs I do this for fun as well. I will shoot and event, portraits or something that comes along..... IF I am into it. For me, it is not about the money, but I really have to want to do it. If it is not fun, it is not worth doing - then it would be a job. 🤗❤
@@JonnyPink65 i absolutely agree I do the odd job now and again but when working full time photography I fell out of love with the reasons I became a photographer it’s was every shot had to make me money I lost track of the passion I had I look a a roll of film and think there is £ xxx there rather then the quality and style that got me into photography in the first place today I shoot film and digital film slowed me down I took my time because every shot counts digital can be a little spray and prey but I apply the same techniques and principles to digital as I do film and it works for me my images are more complete
@@JonnyEnglish-gu1cs That is something you can not explain to those that are getting into photography now and rely on the camera to do everything for them. I have to admit that I easily fall into that when using a mirrorless and have to step back and consciously think about the shots. They are way better that way. Pulling out an older DSLR MAKES me have to to do that!! Each shot counts. 🤗
I got a D800E last year. I'm saving for a 2nd hand 400mmF2.8 G or E FL VR. I'm using a 60mmF2-8 G macro on the camera today and I am not used to the camera yet. I got a D700 2 years ago after my D300 broke down. I got the D850 this year but no vertical grip yet. I'm thinking about getting the 200-500mmF5.6 to use until I can afford the 400mm. Can you recommend the 200-500mm? Then I need a Wide angle as 19mmPC or Zeiss Milvus 15mmF2.8 if my current Zeiss 18mmF3.5 cannot handle the 45Mpix resolution. I mostly take woodland pictures but some wildlife too. I got an old AF 300mmF2.8 screw drive AF that the 400mm shall replace. In the future I will get the Z8x but use my F-mount lenses.
Well, for wildlife, I can defiantly recommend the 200-500 - is is an amazingly sharp and fast lens that will pair with you D800E, D700 and the D850. The clarity is insane. And depending on what you shooting for woodland photos, it sounds like you have it covered. 🙏🤗💖
@@JonnyPink65 The tele lens will be used for local wildlife. I use 300mmf2.8 screw drive on D700 and fuji x-T1 with 55-200mm I hate the X-T1.
@@JonnyPink65 I just ordered a AFS 200-500F5.6 E VR to my DSLR:s thank you for your feedback.
@@thomaseriksson6256Why do you hate xt1?
@@retrovlog9116 small buttons that make it difficult to use during vinter and slow af för wildife .
Is there a difference between the Nikon D800 and D810?
I have not shot the D810 - my friend James has one and love it. I think the differences are minor but I am not 100% sure. 🙏💖🤗
A year later, check the tracking on the Z8 and Z9.
Thank you - I have a rental Z8, Z600mm and 1.4 extender due here in two weeks I think it is. Pretty excited and I am am really looking forward to seeing how the new software updates have improved the AF. I will shoot it for 3 days straight and see how it goes. 🙏💖🤗
If you do not mention the camera model, then no one will really know. Its amazing how many people ask for the camera model and lens when seeing an image, its irrelevant. I have 17 Nikon DSLR bodies and still use all of them. I posted an image last year and everyone thought it was with my D850 and it was an old 6mp D50 which is still excellent.
I agree with you 100%! The best images come from the person behind that camera that loves being out shooting, has worked hard to learn how to control the light and camera, and has practiced. I see so many out there with the latest and greatest and they have no idea how to take a photo - the point and push the button. What I REALLY love about going back to my all time favorite D800 (equally as sharp as my Z9, with the D800 or D750 I have to think about my settings on every shot and it really makes me happy. As a lifelong Nikon guy, I switched to Canon a while back with the R5 to keep up with tech. I love Canon color as it is almost like Nikon color in many way - Nikon color to me is still king and that is why I bought the Z9. I have my opinions on both as far as tech - strengths and weakness on both..... but I love thinking about each shot. Thank you, thank you for watching. 🤗❤🙏
I use the D700 12 Mpix with a vertical grip since 2 year. I think I will use it for panorama to get the HB pan format. That takes 3 pictures with 30% overlap. I will try using the 45mmF2.8 PC lens first before getting a panorama head, levering plate and nodal slide.
I have a Z6 and Z9, looking for a wildlife lens for longer reach then my 70-200 2.8, that 200-500 seems pretty great for the price !!
Stéphane - I REALLY enjoyed it on the Z9 I rented. So much so, I bought is and have been enjoying it on my D800! I think in many ways, I prefer it to my Nikon 500 F4 - lighter and versatile! It is on sale right now everywhere for $300 off the normal price making the new one - a new one, less than a used one. I had to buy it. I have shot wildlife with a 70-200 but there is just not enough reach! Depending on where you are, buy it from a place you can return it if you are not happy with it. I actually like it way better than the Tamron 150-600 I used to shoot that had more reach. This one has way more clarity. 💖🤗🙏 With the Z9, you can crop in for days......
@@JonnyPink65 Thanks for the response, i will save some money for the 400 2.8 with TC, should be able to get it by 2050 lol ;)
@@stephaneclaveau9736 Yeah, I have been looking at that too, but for rent. I have to buy a Z9 first to go with it!!!
@@JonnyPink65 😉
I have been shooting a lot with the older ones but don’t share it as the community will come for you lol.
You can't come out and say everything was hand-held. You need to wait for someone in the comments to ask, "Hey, what tripod did you use?", then you're like, "These shots are actually all hand-held."... And then the comments sections is like, "Oooohhhhh..." lol...
The D800 I shoot hand held unless I am shooting starts. The VR in the 200-500 and 500 PF are pretty amazing. I prefer hand held over a gimbal as I use for my Canon 600 F4 but even that I shoot more hand held than on the gimbal. There is a freedom to it. Video though, I prefer on the gimbal or tripod. But even in the rain, I was shooting the D800, forget what lens, at a 1/90th of a second and pushed the exposure compensation UP to compensate for the low light. It works for me and I have done it for years that way. 🙏💖🤗
Using flash? 1/750 sec and freezing hummingbird wings? Come on man.
Flash? Oh no, not for this. No flash. Just a slow shutter speed and I raise the exposure compensation to get a little more light so I can keep my ISO down on the old D800! It works for me. No flash - at 1/750 it would not fire on the camera and if you used a standard external, it would only light a small part of the scene. No flash. 🙏🤗💖
Questa macchina è completamente inadatta per caccia fotografica non capisco come può essere dichiarata una macchina veloce questo video è fake 100 %
Grazie per aver guardato e per il commento. Non sono davvero sicuro di come commentare. Ho sempre amato Nikon. La D800 è ancora la mia fotocamera preferita di tutti i tempi. Lo Z9 è il mio secondo preferito.
@@JonnyPink65 non sono d'accordo la z9 è un missile di guerra mentre la d800 è un carro armato che viaggia lentamente
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