Love this show and its storylines but IMO the writers missed a lot of opponents with Chris Webber. He was so sweet and considerate of Allison in the beginning and I thought they brought out the best in each other. Mia Farrow’s departure necessitated a rift between the two and marked the beginning of the end for Chris. He turned into a bitter, hateful young man and was impossible to root for despite his good qualities. I guess that’s typical for a Soap Opera - murders, affairs, divorces...no one ever seems to get a happy ending. I’ve been enjoying this series very much and hope to watch PP in its entirety someday. Thank you for all your hard work in uploading this series and maintaining your channel - it is truly appreciated! 🙏
Now, youre talking stuff Steve. Telling Lee he killed your sister, and he's going to make him pay. You got the right target now. You don't want Steve after you, because he gets what he goes after. With all due respect, to Hannah, I commend her for making Steve the man he is. And he's a fine man.
Interesting how nighttime effects are created, with the glow of moonlight on the new-fallen snow. Pretty nifty! Of course, we never see clouds of steam emanating from the townsfolk's mouths when speaking outside in the frigid New England air but such an effect was impossible to achieve. I rarely think of it but the oddity has crossed my mind on occasion, though it doesn't bother me at all. As for Chris' apparent departure, I can't say I'll miss him, as I believe he's overstayed his visit---and it's refreshing to hear him admit the absurdity of his dream of becoming a lawyer. I just don't think the blind would've been hired by law firms in that era. If I'm wrong, I'll burn my priceless original edition of Blackstone's Commentaries!
I believe you are right about the difficulty of Lee paying for Chris's law school, and Chris burnt that bridge, meaning he would have to find the cash himself. But, as for the posibility of being an attorney in the 60's, may I suggest you do a search on "John Carter, blind Milwaukee Attorney". John was a police officer who was blinded during the riots of the 1960's, and then went to law school. It was not easy for him, but he made it. I got to know him in the 80's. It could very well be that John was the exception, but he did prove that at least a person could go to law school during that era and be successful. 'd put the link in the comment, but I tried that before, and the comment apparently was deleted.
What I think I noticed about Sandy is that while she might not admit it, and certainly has been very permiscuas, she really did care about one man above all others, Chris. I'm not sure why she did not get on the bus with Chris, but she was there with him up until the time he left, and I believe that the last scene with Rodney at the inn was as much about the loss of Chris as it was about being afraid of Lee.
@@suki44883 This may be true but wasn't it still #1 in the ratings at this point---at least in terms of winning its time-slots? To be honest, I don't find it going downhill. This may be due more to generational-myth & urban TV-folklore than actual facts, I don't know. On the contrary, at present, I find the quality rising & increasing, not going downhill.
Chris Webber's departure from the series seems overly abrupt and sloppily written. One minute he's in the thick of the action storywise, and the next he's being bundled off on a bus, a blind man headed for unfamiliar surroundings without even a plan or a source of income. It seemed like not much thought went into this... until I found a 1967 article on Peyton Place. In the part of the article that stresses how important it is for actors not to reveal future plotlines: "What is happening in episode 418 is a secret no one in Peyton Place is allowed to reveal. Anyone breathing it to a friend in a bar may be fired. At the time one leading figure was about to leave Peyton Place, an actor was written out of the series for revealing the plot to a newspaper friend." (TV Times [London], December 16-22, 1967) So, you have to wonder -- was it Chris Haynes who was fired for breaking the code of silence that actors on the show were bound to?
I missed Chris. I liked him not so much for what he turned out to be, but for what he could've been...and what he had been at first. Your talk about Gary Haynes possibly being written out because he spilled some beans reminds me of what a friend told me about Joyce Jillson being written out of Peyton Place just as abruptly c. two years later.
@@rhondabitler2461 I actually mentioned the physical resemblance & vocal similarity between the actress-sisters way-back when Lana first joined the cast, and did so again in this or the previous episode's comments section. Obviously, I agree with you.
That only applies to jury trials. Lee didn't have a trial, he had a hearing to determine if the judge felt there was enough evidence to bind him over for trial. The judge decided there wasn't enough evidence at the time. The DA can reopen the case at any time and try again.
When Chris left,I felt a little sad about it. I wasn't sad for what Chris had gotten to be, but had a lingering regard for what he could have been-and what he originally had been.
@@dianagruver5767 I thought it was just me who felt that way about Chris. I am NOT sorry to see him go. Now if only Martin Peyton would. Bring Paul Langton back as Leslie Harrington & place him front & center---NOW!
Saisha---Amen! He needn't be pushed over the cliff, though, in my opinion. I'm just glad he's departing! I liked him originally but eventually found him preachy & tedious, not to mention somewhat childish, in terms of holding grudges and/or telling others what he thought they should do in certain circumstances. He seemed to have lost all concern for returning to law school, him ambitions for which were unrealistic anyway, in terms of both his blindness & the astronomical expense for someone like his brother Lee to cough-up.
I think Gary Haynes (Chris Webber) was a good actor, but his character certainly became obsessed and negative. I think Lee didn't kill Ann, and I don't think Hannah did either. I don't think Ann committed suicide, but I think she just slipped off the bluff.
I am impressed that everything in Peyton Place was within walking distance.
Ive come to really like and respect Stephen PEYTON CORD! The rightful first born son!
I love Ada with the big heart, especially her cap coat.
At 4:00, beautiful purple lighting to imply night. There are so many ways to imply nighttime the wrong way. This is nice.
Evelyn Scott, who played Ada Jacks, was really still quite a beautiful woman, even though she was older at that point in time.
Love this show and its storylines but IMO the writers missed a lot of opponents with Chris Webber. He was so sweet and considerate of Allison in the beginning and I thought they brought out the best in each other. Mia Farrow’s departure necessitated a rift between the two and marked the beginning of the end for Chris. He turned into a bitter, hateful young man and was impossible to root for despite his good qualities. I guess that’s typical for a Soap Opera - murders, affairs, divorces...no one ever seems to get a happy ending. I’ve been enjoying this series very much and hope to watch PP in its entirety someday. Thank you for all your hard work in uploading this series and maintaining your channel - it is truly appreciated! 🙏
What you say is all very true. What I think is undeniable is the bond between Chris and Sandy.
Ryan O’Neal indicates Peyton Place has 24-hour drugstores, in the 60s! Amazing
Yes, though I believe some existed.
Chris tried to kill Lee; Lee tried to get Steven killed. What a great family.
Fedd up with webber brothers storyline!!
I’ve waited for this episode for a long time. Chris Webber is leaving the show? Forever? Maybe poor Dr. Rossi can finally come back.
Now, youre talking stuff Steve. Telling Lee he killed your sister, and he's going to make him pay. You got the right target now. You don't want Steve after you, because he gets what he goes after. With all due respect, to Hannah, I commend her for making Steve the man he is. And he's a fine man.
Why are they having this conversation in the police station & not outside. Geez
Interesting how nighttime effects are created, with the glow of moonlight on the new-fallen snow. Pretty nifty! Of course, we never see clouds of steam emanating from the townsfolk's mouths when speaking outside in the frigid New England air but such an effect was impossible to achieve. I rarely think of it but the oddity has crossed my mind on occasion, though it doesn't bother me at all. As for Chris' apparent departure, I can't say I'll miss him, as I believe he's overstayed his visit---and it's refreshing to hear him admit the absurdity of his dream of becoming a lawyer. I just don't think the blind would've been hired by law firms in that era. If I'm wrong, I'll burn my priceless original edition of Blackstone's Commentaries!
I believe you are right about the difficulty of Lee paying for Chris's law school, and Chris burnt that bridge, meaning he would have to find the cash himself. But, as for the posibility of being an attorney in the 60's, may I suggest you do a search on "John Carter, blind Milwaukee Attorney". John was a police officer who was blinded during the riots of the 1960's, and then went to law school. It was not easy for him, but he made it. I got to know him in the 80's. It could very well be that John was the exception, but he did prove that at least a person could go to law school during that era and be successful. 'd put the link in the comment, but I tried that before, and the comment apparently was deleted.
One Webber down, two to go!
Bye bye Chris👋
A toothbrush???
Don't hotels have toothbrushes???
What I think I noticed about Sandy is that while she might not admit it, and certainly has been very permiscuas, she really did care about one man above all others, Chris. I'm not sure why she did not get on the bus with Chris, but she was there with him up until the time he left, and I believe that the last scene with Rodney at the inn was as much about the loss of Chris as it was about being afraid of Lee.
Lee is so evil and so doable! I think I lust him.
Roman Alexander so is Chris
How did Chris get the freedom to leave town ???
He stole a gun with intent to kill while lying in wait!!!
Chris didn't take a suitcase.
I know. The writers now aren't nearly as detail oriented as the original writers. After they wrote Allison out, the show really went down hill.
@@suki44883 This may be true but wasn't it still #1 in the ratings at this point---at least in terms of winning its time-slots? To be honest, I don't find it going downhill. This may be due more to generational-myth & urban TV-folklore than actual facts, I don't know. On the contrary, at present, I find the quality rising & increasing, not going downhill.
Chris Webber's departure from the series seems overly abrupt and sloppily written. One minute he's in the thick of the action storywise, and the next he's being bundled off on a bus, a blind man headed for unfamiliar surroundings without even a plan or a source of income. It seemed like not much thought went into this... until I found a 1967 article on Peyton Place. In the part of the article that stresses how important it is for actors not to reveal future plotlines: "What is happening in episode 418 is a secret no one in Peyton Place is allowed to reveal. Anyone breathing it to a friend in a bar may be fired. At the time one leading figure was about to leave Peyton Place, an actor was written out of the series for revealing the plot to a newspaper friend." (TV Times [London], December 16-22, 1967) So, you have to wonder -- was it Chris Haynes who was fired for breaking the code of silence that actors on the show were bound to?
I missed Chris. I liked him not so much for what he turned out to be, but for what he could've been...and what he had been at first.
Your talk about Gary Haynes possibly being written out because he spilled some beans reminds me of what a friend told me about Joyce Jillson being written out of Peyton Place just as abruptly c. two years later.
Her voice sounds a week bit like Natalie's.
She resembles her more lately as well...think its the bangs.
@@rhondabitler2461 I actually mentioned the physical resemblance & vocal similarity between the actress-sisters way-back when Lana first joined the cast, and did so again in this or the previous episode's comments section. Obviously, I agree with you.
Norman s heir is looking better!
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@@musicalme27 🙄🤣😂. You know!
How is Stephen going to make Lee pay? You can’t be tried twice for the same crime!
That only applies to jury trials. Lee didn't have a trial, he had a hearing to determine if the judge felt there was enough evidence to bind him over for trial. The judge decided there wasn't enough evidence at the time. The DA can reopen the case at any time and try again.
At last no more Chris!
When Chris left,I felt a little sad about it. I wasn't sad for what Chris had gotten to be, but had a lingering regard for what he could have been-and what he originally had been.
I sure will not miss Chris.
So glad he’s finally gone!
@@dianagruver5767 I thought it was just me who felt that way about Chris. I am NOT sorry to see him go. Now if only Martin Peyton would. Bring Paul Langton back as Leslie Harrington & place him front & center---NOW!
Some one should drag Chris back to that same bluff and push him again.....very annoying kid!
LOL! Only if they take Sandy along.
Saisha---Amen! He needn't be pushed over the cliff, though, in my opinion. I'm just glad he's departing! I liked him originally but eventually found him preachy & tedious, not to mention somewhat childish, in terms of holding grudges and/or telling others what he thought they should do in certain circumstances. He seemed to have lost all concern for returning to law school, him ambitions for which were unrealistic anyway, in terms of both his blindness & the astronomical expense for someone like his brother Lee to cough-up.
Chris is gone. Good bye to bad acting!
I don't think his acting was bad per se but his character became so smarmy & unlikeable.
I think Gary Haynes (Chris Webber) was a good actor, but his character certainly became obsessed and negative. I think Lee didn't kill Ann, and I don't think Hannah did either. I don't think Ann committed suicide, but I think she just slipped off the bluff.
@@robertgold3868 yup
Do you think you could have done better?
I hate Sandy .