Great video. I grew up (at least physically lol) in the 80s, really basic sims, no Internet and obviously no youtube for reference. It's such a privilege to have real fast jet, airline pilots giving us this amazing insight. Something I could only dream of growing up. Thankyou so much for taking the time to do this Chris, it's endlessly fascinating to me. Thankyou!
I was born in 1990 and every Airshow that I attended, The Tornado was my absolute favourite! To me and my family, she was the LOUDEST thing in the sky, every pass she would tear the very fabric of the air! Thankyou to the Tornado and her Pilots for inspiring me as a child! I miss the days of seeing that bird in the sky, her shape.. her speed.. her sheer power and dominance of the sky! Thankyou! And if I could tell my younger self that one day, an Actual Tornado Pilot would eventually read the words he would write.. 🤯 Thankyou cgaviator! You have every right to be immensely proud that you got to fly the Tornado! Can't wait to get my hands on her in VR..
That is so kind of you to say! Reading the fabric of the sky is exactly how I remember hearing it as a kid, before I got chance to fly it! It’s such a shame that she doesn’t fly in the UK anymore.
@@cgaviator Amazing, Can't even begin to imagine what it would have been like seeing it fly as a kid and then flying it for real one day. I'd gladly buy you a beer if i could mate.. I always aspired to be a Pilot in the RAF, but my choice to go straight to work instead of continuing to get the grades necessary. I'm sure there's a parrallel universe where i got to do it 😉 I know I'm being Lazy by asking this, but is there a video where you talk about your past and career flying fast jets for the RAF?
When I was deployed to Kuwait during Operation Desert Thunder, we were at Ali Al Salam Airbase north of Kuwait City, there was a wing of Tornados based there as well. While I am a helicopter guy through and though, I can't state enough how cool it was to be up on The Hill looking down at the airfield, and watching your Tornados turn money into noise on a daily basis. This was around the same time as the 80th Anniversary of the RAF so we got our own little airshow from you guys. It was a sight to behold to see that many Tornados that low to the ground. Impressive stuff.
Always a joy to see how it's done. I worked in a photograpers in Edinburgh in the late 80's and we used to do lots of work for Ferranti's. I don't know how many photos of radar equipment we took and promo shots of Tornado's I printed in that time but it was substantial. Still love how it looks.
Brilliant Chris, your enthusiasm shines through. I look forward to showing our Air Cadets your video and then seeing how they get on replicating the techniques in the simulator when the Tornado releases. Practicing the run in and break is a regular request and it's useful to have a realistic procedure to follow.
A truly stunning model, and stunning aeroplane in the flesh. Given an ex-GR4 jockey is publishing a number of these videos says it all about that quality. Love it.
Cracking video as always Chris, it was like watching someone reconnect with an old friend. This one is already budgeted for, cant wait to get in the cockpit and suddenly realise how easy you make it look.
Another cracking video! Such an iconic aircraft for us Brits, spent many a day as a kid watching them at airshows so it’s awesome to see how they were actually flown 👍
Great video. A real pleasure to watch how a professional RAF pilot does it. I’m looking forward very much to its release and will definitely buy it. Thank you very much for making this video really do appreciate it. Looking forward to more. Regards Rob. Ex Royal Tank Regt
Loving the videos Chris, really enjoyable and informative! I purchased the Tornado and it has been a blast, dream as a child (like so many) was to become an RAF pilot after spending summers in Newquay every year, beside St Mawgan AB and seeing all the activity! Been doing a lot of waypoint flying and the loops which has been great fun. Was wondering if you would ever consider doing a video as if carrying out a training/ mission? Simulating a run, how you would prepare, a flight plan, a runway as a target and managing to fly low level in "hostile" territory? You can tell I'm reading the book "Tornado" just now! ha Please keep doing the videos!
Love the tutorial commentary through out the aerial display and india-fox echo Tornado is looking wonderful one to pickup once released. To go with my Vulcan, in my hanger.😂
Hey Chris, great channel. Amazing to watch a real world pilot in MSFS. As you was a tornado pilot, would be great if you ever get the time to make a cold and dark start up tutorial vid for the indiafoxtecho tornado please.
Love the video and the Tornado cockpit looks very accurate. As a propulsion technician on both GR1 and GR4, I used to run these on the ground. I might be misremembering things but the TBT figures seemed very low at max dry. Looked like they were in the 600's in the video but I recall that they would have been around 840 C in my days. I think you were allowed 550 max on startup. Could be wrong though.
Great detail. Was watching the oxy flow indicators working independently. If it has a carry-a-snag-until-Friday-afternoon feature it will be complete.😊
If I didn't already know that I just NEED to have this fine little aircraft in my collection, and that Dino & Co. have (once again) done a GREAT job, this video would DEFINITELY convince me. 😃 Well done, good Sir. 😉👍
Have many memories of these ripping the skies over north London after departing Northolt's RW07 when they seldomly visited. I'll have to try re-create my video of ZG750 taking off when this comes out. 😄
Man, I love your videos. The Tornado was my favorite plane since I was a kid and always dreamt to fligh one, so I am super exited to see a real Tornado pilot explaining how it is done. Can I ask you to, pehaps do a video on your setup? particularly how the camera moves seem to make the simulation so much easier! Thanks for your videos!
@@cgaviator Thank you. I know it may seem like a small point. But i crave total immersion. I want to walk away after a flight sim feeling mentally “exercised” and satisfied, just like i did when i walked away from the real aircraft after the flight, shutdown, and buttoning her up. Given your experience flying the Tornado, et. al., I have a feeling you know what i mean…
Great video Chris, love seeing the Tonk being put through it's paces! Can I see wing flex/flutter being modelled there as you pull some G's or at high AoA?
Never worked on Tonkas - luckily - but rolls and loops with twin tanks, ECM pods and missiles - thats some weight. Although with declaring low fuel I assume they were empty. Bet you are pushing it with a 5g limit, not to mention massive drag with all that clutter hanging underneath. Could you really loop a Tonka with all that on?
Yup, think the handling manual recommends doing it at less than 20 tonnes all up (end of the sortie) though I may have, ahem, tried it, ahem, earlier than that! I’m not sure what drag index this model is programmed with so it may be easier than reality
@@cgaviator Big tanks were limited to 2.5g above 100Kgs contents. Someone did the trials at Kuwait once (by accident, obviously); they stayed on at 7.5g full!
I had the opportunity to see (really up close) this amazing machine at RMV of Cameri (Italy) during my studies in Aeronautics when the EFA was a prototype. I hope that it will be a good rappresentation for Msfs.. a good one in my opinion was the Version for Xp11 by Xtrident not so bad the version for Prepare 3D too!
Thanks Chris nailed it again. I just downloaded this today and figured out most of it except the course adjustment on the HSI will not set, am I missing something .
Wow! Can't tell you how much I'm looking forward to this getting released! Really interesting and informative video! Your sim is looking so crisp and smooth too! Oh, and 14:57....dayum! Dirty configuration, all hanging out and plumes of exhaust smoke out of the back.....nice! Btw, when under heavy braking and reverse thrust, does the front strut compress - just didn't look like it on the video?
Aj gauges often do match the dry power settings, at one point it showed NH of 80% and 100% Aj, so you would effectively have 'taxi nozzle' in dry power
Forgot to watch this one for some reason! model looks excellent, sounds pretty good! appreciate this was a pre-release but the flight dynamics looked ok at higher speeds ( still seem to have a bit of that "tight" feel a lot of msfs aircraft have ) but rather pitchy & a bit over-reactive at low speed - actually a bit pitchy at any speed, the nose seemed to snap into position. Probably not enough for anyone to care but someone like me who has kinematics & visualisations wired into parts of my brain they shouldn't be... I could count on one hand how many msfs aircraft don't feel like that. Going to enjoy watching you mission plan something in this later on, throwbacks to DI Tornado from the 90s :) I expect you're a bit young to have been one of the Tonka crews who regularily tried to break windows in the town I grew up in every day but you never know.
Thanks for another fun video Chris. I'll be getting the Tornado day one. Would you consider doing tutorial vids for the Tornado for us please? The instrumentation lay out is so foreign. Too much time on the F35 for me 🙂
Outstanding! Could watch this all day. IS there an ILS symbology in the HUD? Any possibility we could see an IFR approach? Many thanks and keep em' coming!
Question, when you kicked in the burners on takeoff, it looked like they lit one at a time. Is that a procedural thing with the Tornado, a mechanical thing, or not actually a thing and just looked cool in the video?
Procedural thing when I flew tornado. There would be dry power run up checks then each burner would be checked (kick and a flick, of the Aj gauge) before releasing brakes. It was in case of blowout or surge I guess. And it looks cool! 😎
Was the desire to go supersonic at low level over cities, towns and villages ever present? If as a civilian, I had a supersonic trainer like the F20 variant and I indeed violated the velocity of all things audible at sea level, what would be the punishment? I suppose it's hard to say and probably unprecedented.
Not permitted, or quickly outlawed once supersonic jets became a thing. Damage to property and violating the rules would lose your civilian licence. You’d be grounded for intentionally doing it in the military. Thunderbirds I think did it most recently
great video as always. Love the Tornado. Issue I had was having the reverse thruster mapped to my warthog throttle axis which worked and it selected the rev thruster and wing spoilers but when the reverse thruster disengages I cant get the wing spoilers to retract again? any thoughts thank you.
Spoilers shouldn’t deploy unless throttle moved outboard. If you hit a key bind for reverse thrust this happen automatically. I believe the manual includes a key bind for the spoilers.
Nice! 👍👍This makes me want to get it. I see the AoA indicator goes up to 30 degrees. What is the max AoA the real Tornado can handle? *Were you lucky enough to be allowed to try a max AoA in the real aircraft?* If so, how does this Tornado compare?
@@raymondgoubet It had an AOA limiter set at 23 degrees, if I recall correctly. It was to protect the top of the fin from being destroyed by turbulence beyond that.
Ex TWCU, IX and 12 Sqn plumber. Always nice to see the old girl (GR1) for me in the air. The best of times for this old boy serving during the Cold War. "Babies head anyone?" 😁
Any plans to upload some DCS F-4 video's? Challenging plane to fly and would be interested in some IP guidance. Assume RAF F-4 was before your time, but sure you can add some useful information about correct handling like you successfully do for various MSFS fast jets
@@cgaviator Understood, hope the lack of time is due to something positive. Your MSFS content is great and keep up the good work. Nevertheless, would love to see some more DCS content as well (with or without 'kinetics'). Specially the new HB F-4 module. Love Cold War / 2nd and 3rd Gen jet's, specially as the are a handful to fly. Respect to those who did at the time.
I was hoping you used to fly the Tor, I wanted to know in your experiance with it on low level flying was it as stable as the IFE? the flight model seems decent although never flown the real thing but seems to stable and has little turbulent effect. so wanted your opinion on it?
While it used to shake around a bit, it doesn’t get affect by turbulence so much. Swept wing design and CSAS damping takes care of that. It ain’t no Cessna! 😂🤘🏻
Good film, nice to see a vid with someone who actually knows what they are talking about! Particularly like the slip to ‘pitch-power-pull’ patter. Straight out of the Hawk I think😂. Is this a rework of the X-Trident Tornado - it looks very similar?
Love your videos. Only just got this aircraft, as it was one of my faves when I was a youngster. Just wondered what controller you use and what are your sensitivities.
@ Having only had the Tornado a fews days, are there any limitations in the TFR. I know it is not an accurate representation but I find if I go over 450KIAS it struggles and I have to take over. Is this a real life issue or am I missing something? Would be great (if you haven’t already done so), if you could make a video to show us how it’s done.
I believe on the F3 after overnight rain, then inverted in air show display mode, the canopy below the pilot's head could fill with water which had leaked in. This then gave him a shower when right side up. Has this feature been simulated? 🙂Apparently, the WSO had control of ejection. If he went through 3000' straight down it was time, apparently, to bang out. Didn't ask the pilot ...
We always taped up the cracks if we left the GR4 out overnight so never had this issue! 😂 The command eject selector would be set to both for flight so that if either crew pulled the handle, the other would leave also!
@@cgaviator Remember a det to lossie when i was on 31, rain got in jet taxied to threshold, then promptly turned off and shut down, pilot said there was sparks coming off the eng control panel due to the rain getting in!
I‘ve flown the IDS Tornado from both cockpits. You had the moving map and could superimpose the radar image on it. The navigator operated it and you could see what he saw. In the front cockpit you could change the map style and scale.
So im assuming the gr4 was never really used as an interceptor, or at least it was designed as a tactical bomber? but given some of your previous content, how does this one fair in sim?
Great to see these flights from an expert Tornado pilot. I noticed a lack of pitch inertia during the mid-landing replay. ISTR that ALL military jets lack yaw inertia in FS2020, but is this Tonka pitchy as well? 😢 How realistic is it to the real jet?
@@cgaviator I’m new to flight sim and after a while in the Cessna 152, I’m now in the Grob Tutor. Going to try the RAF route. After the Grob the Texan, then the Hawk. I find your videos very informative.
I flew around the world in the X plane 11 version. At least your moving map works on this version. I liked the TFR and used to cruise at 1000ft. Big fat old girl was not that good in the hills low level.
Alpha 21 was the limit for F3s...not sure for GR4. Exceed that on an F3 and it will damage the ECM pod, indeed as happened to one of our aircraft at Leuchars, rip it off. The pilot was in the shite for sure.
Any chance you could do a cold and dark start up video for us since you know what you’re doing, so we can be prepared for when it gets released. If it ever gets released 😭😭😭 thank you
@@cgaviator haha, i don't know what came over me, a bit of keyboard turrets maybe lol. I've been looking forward to this bird for a while, just hoping it's got a good flight model. How do you find it ?
Great video. I grew up (at least physically lol) in the 80s, really basic sims, no Internet and obviously no youtube for reference. It's such a privilege to have real fast jet, airline pilots giving us this amazing insight. Something I could only dream of growing up. Thankyou so much for taking the time to do this Chris, it's endlessly fascinating to me. Thankyou!
My pleasure, and I totally get the physical aging but the mind staying very young! 😂
@cgaviator You were a fighter pilot you're probably still 28 physically!
You seemed so keen on it lol
I was born in 1990 and every Airshow that I attended, The Tornado was my absolute favourite! To me and my family, she was the LOUDEST thing in the sky, every pass she would tear the very fabric of the air!
Thankyou to the Tornado and her Pilots for inspiring me as a child! I miss the days of seeing that bird in the sky, her shape.. her speed.. her sheer power and dominance of the sky!
Thankyou!
And if I could tell my younger self that one day, an Actual Tornado Pilot would eventually read the words he would write.. 🤯
Thankyou cgaviator!
You have every right to be immensely proud that you got to fly the Tornado!
Can't wait to get my hands on her in VR..
That is so kind of you to say! Reading the fabric of the sky is exactly how I remember hearing it as a kid, before I got chance to fly it! It’s such a shame that she doesn’t fly in the UK anymore.
@@cgaviator Amazing, Can't even begin to imagine what it would have been like seeing it fly as a kid and then flying it for real one day.
I'd gladly buy you a beer if i could mate..
I always aspired to be a Pilot in the RAF, but my choice to go straight to work instead of continuing to get the grades necessary.
I'm sure there's a parrallel universe where i got to do it 😉
I know I'm being Lazy by asking this, but is there a video where you talk about your past and career flying fast jets for the RAF?
@@ashhawk2346 no, not at present, but it’s a good thought
@@cgaviatorthis time next year, you could be a millionaire by writing your memoirs 👍👍
When I was deployed to Kuwait during Operation Desert Thunder, we were at Ali Al Salam Airbase north of Kuwait City, there was a wing of Tornados based there as well. While I am a helicopter guy through and though, I can't state enough how cool it was to be up on The Hill looking down at the airfield, and watching your Tornados turn money into noise on a daily basis. This was around the same time as the 80th Anniversary of the RAF so we got our own little airshow from you guys. It was a sight to behold to see that many Tornados that low to the ground. Impressive stuff.
Nice! Money into noise… and a little bit of thrust! 😂 They certainly worked hard
I was there in 98 as a weapons tech supporting the Tornados
@@daz36uk kudos, thanks for your work!
Always a joy to see how it's done. I worked in a photograpers in Edinburgh in the late 80's and we used to do lots of work for Ferranti's. I don't know how many photos of radar equipment we took and promo shots of Tornado's I printed in that time but it was substantial. Still love how it looks.
That must have been interesting! The Tonka certain photos nicely
Awesome video. Great to see you crack 20k subs too, absolutely deserve the success.
Hey, thanks! Yeah, great milestone 👍🏻
Brilliant Chris, your enthusiasm shines through. I look forward to showing our Air Cadets your video and then seeing how they get on replicating the techniques in the simulator when the Tornado releases. Practicing the run in and break is a regular request and it's useful to have a realistic procedure to follow.
Just don’t get too tight! 😅
A truly stunning model, and stunning aeroplane in the flesh. Given an ex-GR4 jockey is publishing a number of these videos says it all about that quality. Love it.
I like to go back to what I know when there’s opportunity! 🤗
Cracking video as always Chris, it was like watching someone reconnect with an old friend. This one is already budgeted for, cant wait to get in the cockpit and suddenly realise how easy you make it look.
Thanks, much appreciated! It’s absolutely like meeting an old friend again! Thankfully nothing will fall off on the sim if it’s mishandled! 😅
I can't wait for this to release. It looks amazing. Great video as always !
Thanks 🙏🏻
Another cracking video! Such an iconic aircraft for us Brits, spent many a day as a kid watching them at airshows so it’s awesome to see how they were actually flown 👍
Thanks! 🙏🏻
Awesome video thanks for sharing! Some great flying there giving us some really useful references!
My pleasure!
Great video. A real pleasure to watch how a professional RAF pilot does it. I’m looking forward very much to its release and will definitely buy it. Thank you very much for making this video really do appreciate it. Looking forward to more. Regards Rob. Ex Royal Tank Regt
My pleasure!
Awesome video. Can't wait for this, it's looking absolutely amazing.
Thanks 🙏🏻
For an added bit of realism, it would be good if when flying inverted, bits of gravel, lock wire & M&Ms could make their way rapidly to the canopy.
Absolutely! 😂
Loving the videos Chris, really enjoyable and informative! I purchased the Tornado and it has been a blast, dream as a child (like so many) was to become an RAF pilot after spending summers in Newquay every year, beside St Mawgan AB and seeing all the activity!
Been doing a lot of waypoint flying and the loops which has been great fun.
Was wondering if you would ever consider doing a video as if carrying out a training/ mission? Simulating a run, how you would prepare, a flight plan, a runway as a target and managing to fly low level in "hostile" territory?
You can tell I'm reading the book "Tornado" just now! ha
Please keep doing the videos!
I’d love to if the day job didn’t keep me so busy. Will get back to it when I can, thanks for taking the time to comment 👍🏻
Love the tutorial commentary through out the aerial display and india-fox echo Tornado is looking wonderful one to pickup once released. To go with my Vulcan, in my hanger.😂
Perfect pair!
I just love seeing this bird flying in MSFS. I hope you know I am taking notes, I gotta learn from the best, even if it is just virtually! 😁
I’m only covering basics, my knowledge doesn’t 100% transfer to GR1 but it’s close. Enjoy 👍🏻
@@cgaviatoras long as it keeps me from smacking the ground while attempting shenanigans, i will consider it a win. 😂
Hey Chris, great channel. Amazing to watch a real world pilot in MSFS. As you was a tornado pilot, would be great if you ever get the time to make a cold and dark start up tutorial vid for the indiafoxtecho tornado please.
Lovely video Chris, nice to see the old blister hangars where 39 Sqn used to operate from, my old and last unit!!!
I do find myself reminiscing a lot in the sim! 😅
@@cgaviator I've noticed, especially on the Hawk Mach loop video!!!. Which Sqn's were you on at Marham Chris?
@@johnfisher9428 IX(B) 🦇
@@cgaviator ooh, do you know Nick Heard, Mick Lismore or Martin Ring?
Love the video and the Tornado cockpit looks very accurate. As a propulsion technician on both GR1 and GR4, I used to run these on the ground. I might be misremembering things but the TBT figures seemed very low at max dry. Looked like they were in the 600's in the video but I recall that they would have been around 840 C in my days. I think you were allowed 550 max on startup. Could be wrong though.
Can’t remember. They did adjust engine modelling since this video.
Awesome flight! not a well-known aircraft on my part. Awesome video! 😀
Thanks, much appreciated
Great detail. Was watching the oxy flow indicators working independently. If it has a carry-a-snag-until-Friday-afternoon feature it will be complete.😊
😂
If I didn't already know that I just NEED to have this fine little aircraft in my collection, and that Dino & Co. have (once again) done a GREAT job, this video would DEFINITELY convince me. 😃 Well done, good Sir. 😉👍
Pleasure, I should really take commission! But I do just enjoy throwing it around!
@@cgaviator At least make a deal with IndiaFoxTecho about being their official spokesperson (or something). 😃 JK (or am I??). 😉🤓
@@JGE_DK 😜
Another great video Chris. Cheers
Thanks 🙏🏻
Thanks Chris, I look forward to getting to grips with this.
Pleasure 👍🏻
Worked on F3's for 6 years. Watching this even brings back the smell. Would be great if they did an F3 variant.
Agreed!
Have many memories of these ripping the skies over north London after departing Northolt's RW07 when they seldomly visited. I'll have to try re-create my video of ZG750 taking off when this comes out. 😄
Ripping the skies, they certainly sounded like they were pummelling physics into submission! 😅
Good to see a "Black Knight" on a Tornado in the sky again!
Man, I love your videos. The Tornado was my favorite plane since I was a kid and always dreamt to fligh one, so I am super exited to see a real Tornado pilot explaining how it is done. Can I ask you to, pehaps do a video on your setup? particularly how the camera moves seem to make the simulation so much easier!
Thanks for your videos!
Thanks, really appreciate it! I will do a setup video at some point. I use TrackIR for head movement 👍🏻
Well done Chris. Great job mate.
Thanks 🙏🏻
Looks sweet.
QUESTION:
Do the reversers deploy so “abruptly” in real life ?
They almost seem mes to “snap” into position as they deploy.
Yup, they’re pretty quick!
@@cgaviator Thank you. I know it may seem like a small point. But i crave total immersion.
I want to walk away after a flight sim feeling mentally “exercised” and satisfied, just like i did when i walked away from the real aircraft after the flight, shutdown, and buttoning her up.
Given your experience flying the Tornado, et. al., I have a feeling you know what i mean…
your landings look effortless man haha insane
Thanks, you’d hope after 18 years flying they would be reasonable! 😅😂
That was ANOTHER superb video... thank you so much 😄👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👍🏼
Thanks for saying, appreciate it 👍🏻
❤ Brilliant ❤ thank you. Waiting for the release
My pleasure 👍🏻
Great video Chris, love seeing the Tonk being put through it's paces!
Can I see wing flex/flutter being modelled there as you pull some G's or at high AoA?
Thanks! And yes, they’ve given it a bit of flutter 👍🏻
@@cgaviator ah nice, as a former aerospace structural engineer its nice to see more models getting some aeroelasticity modelled in👍
Great video once again, thanks.
My pleasure 👍🏻
Never worked on Tonkas - luckily - but rolls and loops with twin tanks, ECM pods and missiles - thats some weight. Although with declaring low fuel I assume they were empty. Bet you are pushing it with a 5g limit, not to mention massive drag with all that clutter hanging underneath. Could you really loop a Tonka with all that on?
Yup, think the handling manual recommends doing it at less than 20 tonnes all up (end of the sortie) though I may have, ahem, tried it, ahem, earlier than that! I’m not sure what drag index this model is programmed with so it may be easier than reality
@@cgaviator Big tanks were limited to 2.5g above 100Kgs contents. Someone did the trials at Kuwait once (by accident, obviously); they stayed on at 7.5g full!
@@EvoraGT430 combat proven! It’s all good! 😂
I had the opportunity to see (really up close) this amazing machine at RMV of Cameri (Italy) during my studies in Aeronautics when the EFA was a prototype. I hope that it will be a good rappresentation for Msfs.. a good one in my opinion was the Version for Xp11 by Xtrident not so bad the version for Prepare 3D too!
Yeah, I used the P3D version. Not too shabby at all!
I think the issue is it needs to be linked to an axis rather than button or switch. Thanks for the reply and look forward to the next video 😁
What an amazing video just wish i could fly that well finding this aircraft hard to land i have just started getting back into simulators though
Picked a tricky one to start with. Try a straight in first then build up to circuits
Thanks Chris nailed it again. I just downloaded this today and figured out most of it except the course adjustment on the HSI will not set, am I missing something .
It’s an old HSI that doesn’t have a stable course bar. I believe it only points direct to the navaid
The Tornado is a stunning aircraft!
Absolutely! 🔥
Wow! Can't tell you how much I'm looking forward to this getting released!
Really interesting and informative video! Your sim is looking so crisp and smooth too!
Oh, and 14:57....dayum! Dirty configuration, all hanging out and plumes of exhaust smoke out of the back.....nice!
Btw, when under heavy braking and reverse thrust, does the front strut compress - just didn't look like it on the video?
No heavy breaking, you’d have a brake fire 🔥 The pull of the reverse wouldn’t compress the oleo so much 👍🏻
Great video as always! Really enjoyed it. Can you describe the SPILS system and how it works?
Dampens the pitch inputs to reduce likelihood of spin. If my memory serves me!
Lovely as ever Chris!
IFE must like you if they've put your initials on the tail!
Haha… happy coincidence! But I’ll take it!
Aj gauges often do match the dry power settings, at one point it showed NH of 80% and 100% Aj, so you would effectively have 'taxi nozzle' in dry power
I shall pass it back 👍🏻
Forgot to watch this one for some reason! model looks excellent, sounds pretty good! appreciate this was a pre-release but the flight dynamics looked ok at higher speeds ( still seem to have a bit of that "tight" feel a lot of msfs aircraft have ) but rather pitchy & a bit over-reactive at low speed - actually a bit pitchy at any speed, the nose seemed to snap into position. Probably not enough for anyone to care but someone like me who has kinematics & visualisations wired into parts of my brain they shouldn't be... I could count on one hand how many msfs aircraft don't feel like that.
Going to enjoy watching you mission plan something in this later on, throwbacks to DI Tornado from the 90s :) I expect you're a bit young to have been one of the Tonka crews who regularily tried to break windows in the town I grew up in every day but you never know.
It still suffers a bit from pitchiness though haven’t had chance to use the release version!
Please do a full flight cold and dark to shutdown would love to see what the IFE one is like in them phases
Once the startup features are 100% I will do 👍🏻
That’s some skill there! Is that a new channel logo on the bottom right corner? It looks nice!
Not new, been there a while 😊
@@cgaviator oof, I was afraid of that. It looks nice anyhow!
Thanks for another fun video Chris. I'll be getting the Tornado day one. Would you consider doing tutorial vids for the Tornado for us please? The instrumentation lay out is so foreign. Too much time on the F35 for me 🙂
I’ll certainly do a few. It’s a little alien to me as the IDS is older than my time!
Do we know if there's a way to Bind wing sweep to a lever? I have plenty of spare levers on my quadrant, would make life in the Tornado a lot easier.
I don’t think so, not yet. Would be sweet though.
Set one lever to control flaps 0-3 for 67, 63, 45 and 25 degree wing sweep and another for flaps 3-6 for 0, 7, 25 and 50 degrees flaps.
Outstanding! Could watch this all day. IS there an ILS symbology in the HUD? Any possibility we could see an IFR approach? Many thanks and keep em' coming!
I’ll do some IFR at some point 👍🏻
Question, when you kicked in the burners on takeoff, it looked like they lit one at a time. Is that a procedural thing with the Tornado, a mechanical thing, or not actually a thing and just looked cool in the video?
Procedural thing when I flew tornado. There would be dry power run up checks then each burner would be checked (kick and a flick, of the Aj gauge) before releasing brakes. It was in case of blowout or surge I guess. And it looks cool! 😎
@@cgaviator Excellent! Thx for the info.
Do you prefer the look of a fully loaded tornado or one that’s just the airframe itself? :)
Gotta be fully loaded! 🤘🏻
Was the desire to go supersonic at low level over cities, towns and villages ever present?
If as a civilian, I had a supersonic trainer like the F20 variant and I indeed violated the velocity of all things audible at sea level, what would be the punishment?
I suppose it's hard to say and probably unprecedented.
Not permitted, or quickly outlawed once supersonic jets became a thing. Damage to property and violating the rules would lose your civilian licence. You’d be grounded for intentionally doing it in the military. Thunderbirds I think did it most recently
Amazing video! Can you arm the tornado if bought 3rd party?
Sorry for the delay, yes
great video as always. Love the Tornado. Issue I had was having the reverse thruster mapped to my warthog throttle axis which worked and it selected the rev thruster and wing spoilers but when the reverse thruster disengages I cant get the wing spoilers to retract again? any thoughts thank you.
There’s a key bind for spoilers 👍🏻
what is the outer right wing pylon ordinance? is it a fuel tank? ive seen it so many times and i googled about it but cant find any info about it.
ECM on the left, BOZ pod on the right (chaff and flares)
@@cgaviator aha! I though it had flares since it looked like a flare dispenser from behind. Thanks!
Hi Chris quick question, is there any specific speeds for wing sweep changes, for instance at what speed should sweep move from 45 to 67 degrees?
25 to 45 at 350kt. 67 only really needed at high Mach numbers, can’t remember the figure, maybe Mach 0.85
Can you tell me how to retract the spoilers on the wings after landing? It looks like the Tornado brakes automatically
Spoilers shouldn’t deploy unless throttle moved outboard. If you hit a key bind for reverse thrust this happen automatically. I believe the manual includes a key bind for the spoilers.
Nice! 👍👍This makes me want to get it. I see the AoA indicator goes up to 30 degrees. What is the max AoA the real Tornado can handle? *Were you lucky enough to be allowed to try a max AoA in the real aircraft?* If so, how does this Tornado compare?
We flew the Tonka to the max of everything! But it did mean it was overly capable. It’s like a car speedo reading 150mph! 😅
@@cgaviator And what was the max AoA?
@@raymondgoubet It had an AOA limiter set at 23 degrees, if I recall correctly. It was to protect the top of the fin from being destroyed by turbulence beyond that.
@@EvoraGT430 Thank you. Quite limited indeed, compared to newer jets.
Can you make a Start Up procedure video? Tks 😊
Will do eventually 👍🏻
With the released version, how to you keep the wings out? Whenever I raise the flaps they go to full sweep mode.
If you have a button bound for flaps all the up that might be your issue. Try using flap incremental key bind. That will let you pick a sweep
@@cgaviator I was able to sort it out!
Are you planning 9n doing some tutorials for the Tornado? Pretty please
I wish, sadly unable at present
Ex TWCU, IX and 12 Sqn plumber. Always nice to see the old girl (GR1) for me in the air. The best of times for this old boy serving during the Cold War. "Babies head anyone?" 😁
lol, thanks for you service!
Why with fuel tanks?
Hi, do you use any addons that are changing Bing to Google Maps or Apple maps, for example?
I tried it once, but didn’t see enough benefit to keep it
Any plans to upload some DCS F-4 video's? Challenging plane to fly and would be interested in some IP guidance. Assume RAF F-4 was before your time, but sure you can add some useful information about correct handling like you successfully do for various MSFS fast jets
@@Scoop1_1 haven’t had chance to do anything of late. Won’t have time to learn anything DCS that’s for sure. Though I’d love to get back into it
@@cgaviator Understood, hope the lack of time is due to something positive. Your MSFS content is great and keep up the good work. Nevertheless, would love to see some more DCS content as well (with or without 'kinetics'). Specially the new HB F-4 module. Love Cold War / 2nd and 3rd Gen jet's, specially as the are a handful to fly. Respect to those who did at the time.
I was hoping you used to fly the Tor, I wanted to know in your experiance with it on low level flying was it as stable as the IFE? the flight model seems decent although never flown the real thing but seems to stable and has little turbulent effect. so wanted your opinion on it?
While it used to shake around a bit, it doesn’t get affect by turbulence so much. Swept wing design and CSAS damping takes care of that. It ain’t no Cessna! 😂🤘🏻
@@cgaviator awesome to know thank you for the quick response. Great video as alway
@@CTTechGaming pleasure!
Good film, nice to see a vid with someone who actually knows what they are talking about! Particularly like the slip to ‘pitch-power-pull’ patter. Straight out of the Hawk I think😂. Is this a rework of the X-Trident Tornado - it looks very similar?
lol, old habits die hard! Other than being a tornado, they’re separate devs I believe.
Love your videos. Only just got this aircraft, as it was one of my faves when I was a youngster.
Just wondered what controller you use and what are your sensitivities.
Thanks! Thrustmaster warthog and MFG pedals. Sensitivity standard but I have a 10cm extension tube on the stick to make it less sensitive.
@ Having only had the Tornado a fews days, are there any limitations in the TFR. I know it is not an accurate representation but I find if I go over 450KIAS it struggles and I have to take over. Is this a real life issue or am I missing something? Would be great (if you haven’t already done so), if you could make a video to show us how it’s done.
Are the throttles rocked to select thrust reverse and lift dump?
They have key binds to enable each separately, both throttles can be clicked to enabled lift dump then reverse thrust. Details in manual I presume
But in short, yes! 😅
@@cgaviatorMuch appreciated. Any plans for further tutorials as many users of this model don't seem to use, for instance, taxi nozzle.
Awesome! Bet you feel at home in that cockpit 😂
It is very familiar but the IDS has plenty of differences!
I believe on the F3 after overnight rain, then inverted in air show display mode, the canopy below the pilot's head could fill with water which had leaked in. This then gave him a shower when right side up.
Has this feature been simulated? 🙂Apparently, the WSO had control of ejection. If he went through 3000' straight down it was time, apparently, to bang out. Didn't ask the pilot ...
We always taped up the cracks if we left the GR4 out overnight so never had this issue! 😂 The command eject selector would be set to both for flight so that if either crew pulled the handle, the other would leave also!
@@cgaviator Remember a det to lossie when i was on 31, rain got in jet taxied to threshold, then promptly turned off and shut down, pilot said there was sparks coming off the eng control panel due to the rain getting in!
@@cgaviator Really? We flew with it off after the HF-aerial incident in Germany.
@@31Macdog 😬
Thank you for the video as always, What information would be seen on the CRPMD? is IFE a good representation?
It is the combined radar and map display and shows the radar image superimposed on the map.
I’ve not flown with a CRPMD but I believe it was an analogue moving map. MSFS always has trade offs for fast jets.
I‘ve flown the IDS Tornado from both cockpits. You had the moving map and could superimpose the radar image on it. The navigator operated it and you could see what he saw. In the front cockpit you could change the map style and scale.
So im assuming the gr4 was never really used as an interceptor, or at least it was designed as a tactical bomber?
but given some of your previous content, how does this one fair in sim?
GR4 was a bomber, F3 was an interceptor. This one’s not bad, but still work in progress.
Great to see these flights from an expert Tornado pilot. I noticed a lack of pitch inertia during the mid-landing replay. ISTR that ALL military jets lack yaw inertia in FS2020, but is this Tonka pitchy as well? 😢 How realistic is it to the real jet?
I’ve been meaning to ask the dev about the pitch. All fast jets in the sim seem to be a bit pitchy.
This isn’t a review however as it’s still work in progress 👍🏻
Can this be loaded ready to takeoff ?
Do you use a re shade or is this as it comes?
I’m tinkering with Nvidia filters 👍🏻
@@cgaviator ah ok, where do tou find these filters? Im on a geforce 4090 7800x3d
@@THEGHOSTMAKER1 alt + F with shadowplay enabled i believe
@@THEGHOSTMAKER1 you may need to check your shadowplay key assignments
Stunning Video, may I ask which Airport you started from and are those Planes on the Tarmac static ones, especially the one for the royal Family?
Marham, and it’s a free addon for PC at flightsim.to
@@cgaviator Thank you very much
I know it's early days but will you be doing a cold and dark?
Sadly no time presently! Eventually
what are your thoughts on Tornado coming to DCS?
I’m sure it’ll be epic… but a loooong way off!
What’s your opinion of MSFS flight model
Could be better!
Hi Chris, forgive my ignorance, but when you refer to the “Alpha” is that AOA?
Yup 👍🏻
@@cgaviator I’m new to flight sim and after a while in the Cessna 152, I’m now in the Grob Tutor. Going to try the RAF route. After the Grob the Texan, then the Hawk. I find your videos very informative.
@@mattgillatt nice challenge you’ve got yourself! And thanks. I should really start a full syllabus but time is tight. All the best 👍🏻
@@cgaviator Cheers.
@@cgaviator do you mind if I ask the occasional question?
I flew around the world in the X plane 11 version. At least your moving map works on this version. I liked the TFR and used to cruise at 1000ft. Big fat old girl was not that good in the hills low level.
She loved the hills but you gotta treat her right and plan well ahead! Unless you mean mountain valleys, in which case plan… or be very nervous! 😂
@@cgaviator I downloaded Scotland and just got tucked in at 450kts
You have to be joking; she was a babe at low level in the hills.
Great Vid ,was the Gr4 a low-low-low or ...?
More a high low high! 😊
@@cgaviator thanks
This needs to come out now xD take my damn money
I’ll take your money, but I can’t guarantee you’ll get the model! 😂
Alpha 21 was the limit for F3s...not sure for GR4. Exceed that on an F3 and it will damage the ECM pod, indeed as happened to one of our aircraft at Leuchars, rip it off. The pilot was in the shite for sure.
Thanks! And I bet! 😅
How do you recommend reducing lag.
Lag in?
@@cgaviator Yea
Any chance you could do a cold and dark start up video for us since you know what you’re doing, so we can be prepared for when it gets released. If it ever gets released 😭😭😭 thank you
I will do, but I’d like to wait for when all the features are 100% 👍🏻
My G walm up is , Gee that was close to the ground
Badum tsh! 😂
Nice one Chris…🤭👍🏿
Thanks 🙏🏻
Wow
Yup! 😁
Nice
👌🏻
Is this runway familiar to you as an ex tornado pilot ?
Yup 👍🏻
F14 or Tornado?
Asking a Tornado pilot if he would prefer the F14!? 😅 Yeah… maybe! 😂
@@cgaviator was a bit cheeky wasn't it lol
lacks a good sound set, looks good, but the immersion is lot with the sound.
True, maybe they’ll upgrade it like they’re about to with the F35
I am a Tonka Plonka
😂 You know… I’ve not heard that before… but I like it!
@@cgaviator haha, i don't know what came over me, a bit of keyboard turrets maybe lol.
I've been looking forward to this bird for a while, just hoping it's got a good flight model. How do you find it ?
The problem with MSFS is the flight models are rubbish. Will you be checking out the DCS version when that is eventually released 2026 onwards??
I’m in the SME panel for it but progress will be slow I think. I’m working to improve the flight models but they are a little strange. Small steps…
Nice...30 % of this machine's was lost in Iraq 1991....
Is that right!? Didn’t know that