Five Keys to Beating Scrupulosity
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- What is scrupulosity and what can be done to overcome it? In this webinar recording, Ted Witzig Jr. shares real hope and practical helps with those who struggle with scrupulosity OCD and those who love them. He walks through five practical keys including: Understanding faith, doubt, and uncertainty, Using Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT) skills to beat scrupulous symptoms, Effective support and using the 85% rule
Implementing exposure and response prevent (ERP) in OCD with religious and spiritual themes, and Self-compassion and combating shame.
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I've suffered so much from my own construct of God. Feeling as if he wants to punish me and if I make a mistake he's going to smite me. He never has. It feels as if my ego was wrapped into it and I projected my own experiences onto my idea of God. It's scary. Bc on one hand, I am afraid that I am being deceived by evil spirits and driven crazy to doubt God, and on the other hand I can see how fearful I have become. I wasn't able to differentiate between my sin, and my sickness. You are NOT alone guys. I have carried chronic guilt and shame for the longest and I'm ready to trust my creator to allow me to release this without fear of my doubts of whether or not I was manipulated and controlled, to be....a sin. Ugh God is good. let's not forget that. let's not get wrapped up into legalism. Let's forgive ourselves.
I also suffer from the same thing. It is suffering, so offer that suffering up to God. It is your cross to bear . Ask God to help you carry your cross. ❤️
So much of what you say reflects my own struggle, thank you, it has helped.
I also suffer from this, but tend to think that if God hasn't helped me to completely get rid of these thoughts after several years of suffering from them, then there's most likely a real reason why He thinks I benefit from thinking them. Maybe we're supposed to accept these thoughts as they are, remain strong and calm when they start to bother us and put our whole trust on Him instead 💪🏼
God wouldn't do that bro, it's Satan's work. You trust in yourself and God. He's in ur gut feeling. Always saying the truth. The truth sets you free
@Danae Crosley Maybe if we can stay connected to remembering that God is Love, and remembering how you feel when you feel loving care toward something innocent, like a child or animal? I think maybe it's hard to let ourselves open to that love, inside us.
"My faith is what I believe, not what I feel." Crucial statement.
A statement not everyone understands. Love this statement.
For me, I am so obsessed with getting the details in a conversation right. I often replay conversations in my mind and if I didn’t get a detail correctly, then I think I told a lie. It’s exhausting. I also obsess about if I have offended or hurt someone. I am extremely sensitive and apologize a lot. I feel the need to confess a lot as well.
I feel the exact same thing about lying if I dont quote someone exactly as they said something
@@gotubepsp Same
I often remember to ask myself Was my intention to deceive or tell a falsehood? Most often you just explained something the best you could at the time and couldn’t find the best words. This really helps when you are over analyzing something you said. Learn to think in generalities. Was what I said generally true?
Now I know I’m not alone in this. Don’t be afraid to seek help, it’s what I am doing too :)
I thought you were describing my issues. Thanks. I am glad there are more than just me having these thoughts. 😢God bless you. 😅
Thank you for this. It's amazing to me that someone would be willing to use their spare time to share their knowledge like this, but it doesn't surprise me that Jesus' love can drive us to love one another and help each other. Thank you for using your time to help us, because it really does help.
As Christians please always remember that it is not gonna be easy we will go through so many troubles and difficulties in our life. Jesus Christ suffered so badly yet He still chose to carry His cross and die for us all. When we go through sufferings please always remember that we never go through them alone. We will always have the Creator of all the world the Lord of Heaven and Earth and the Savior of the world with you and for you. I do have ocd and scrupulosity and i wont lie it does get really frustrating and exhausting at times and sometimes i just want God to immediately save me, but brothers and sisters please always remember that God’s timing is perfect. He doesn’t want you to keep hurting He knows all your sufferings and wants to give you rest. For you are His dearly loved children. But you should always trust in Him at all times. Thats what faith is for trusting in God at all times. God is working even if it feels as though He isnt draw closer to Him continue on praying for strength and for help and see how God has been working for your good the whole time. God bless you all sisters and brothers i love you all remember our Heavenly Father loves us all so deeply and always will Hallelujah Praise Him for He is good❤
so here is my story, i started receiving intrusive and blasphemous thoughts , So I asked JESUS what was wrong with me. The very next thing on the radio was about Ocd. I was reading the bible later and ran into the story about the man who had been crippled for 38 years. It was JESUS talking to me asking me if I wanted to be healed i said yes i think , He said pick up your mat and walk I understood that meant to just keep walking and dont let the thoughts get you stuck , He has been saying this to me for over 30 yrs now because i was stubborn but now I am starting to try it out and it is working.I am so happy go learn that to keep walking is the same thing this guy is teaching.
Thank you
great. Thanks.
Wow praise God. Thy sins be forgiven thee 😭 thank the Lord I know He is good
this video was so helpful! it’s nice to know that people experience the same thing and i’m not alone in this. i’ve always struggled with obsessing over death and doubting my salvation
Same here.
Get the book knowing I am saved by Richard Fulton
My sweet daughter began having OCD that affected her relationship with God when she was in her senior year in high school. She’s now 22 and although things have improved with therapy, prayer and lots of talks with me. (She also began an eating disorder and is still dealing with that.)
I’m praying these videos will help her. She is EXHAUSTED from fighting this it is breaking my heart to see her suffer. Thank you so much for your videos!
I'm sorry to hear you are going through this. Keep pushing forward and through, dont let any thing evil stand before your way! I admire the both of you so much.Your daughter for still pushing through until this day you for being a wonderful, loving and caring mother. There is literally no better recipe than that. God is seeing this. Keep faith in our Lord and saviour Jesus chrisht and wait patiently for your reward. God will take care if her and yourself mam, amen 🙏🏾❤️
God bless your daughter. Its a real persecution, the worst persecution. Been struggling with this for 5 years.
✝ Psalm 93:19
"According to the multitude of my sorrows in my heart, your consolations have given joy to my soul."
Wow thank you for this scripture I have also been suffering
@dawn old ham
I use to have an eating disorder then I began compulsing with ticks moving my fingers throwing food to the walls and then 3 years later little by little I started to realized wait if I can eat by performing ticks then I didn’t lose the affect to eat. Little by little I stopped doing compulsions
I perform them then realize it’s fear.
For me it helped a lot even though still today I compulse quite a bit to eat.
But I’m not saying to do this
Please buy the book knowing I am saved by Richard Fulton it has helped me so so much
I love how he is respectful towards people’s faith. Often in the realms of psychology & psychiatry faith/religion believers are often ridiculed for believing in God.
I’m weeping. I feel seen! I am beginning to understand myself - and I’m looking to walking in faith, believing God can and will sort out the differences in my mind/life. Thank you, sir. I just found this channel (04:00AM), and I’m looking forward to … “therapy through the screen” or something like that. I’m excited to finally learn about this because I’m a lady of faith who struggles with OCD. 😅 I don’t have money at all for face to face therapy, but I am confident these videos will aid me just as much. It’s all about rewiring and putting things to the test, right? Because I’ve been cooped up in these “safe zones”, it’s time for me to actually do works and not just say “I have faith.” without works… Ha, rambling. Anyway! Thank you. Peace be with you. 🙏🏾
Thank you for sharing with us! On April 19th, (7pm est), we will be hosting a Faith & OCD Roundtable that will be going live on UA-cam and Facebook. It is a great place to ask questions and talk to others with similar stories. If you would like to join, visit iocdf.org/live for access.
@@IOCDF hi. :) thank you. I’ll set a reminder. #calendar I appreciate this and you!!!
You're not alone about the safe zones! It's hard for me to come out of my comfort zone in this season
@@soggypinksheepanomic8258 me too, sometimes when I leave my comfort zone and see that things are alright, I feel terrible because I feel like I don't have the faith to go out and do exposures.
Feelings qnd pride and relying on one's own goodness instead of Jesus is what causes this. You cannot rely on self or the law, that's meant to lead you to living water or the spirit of Jesus. My walk with God has been hard because of my foolish pride and believing what I see instead of his word.
True
Im suffering with scrupulosity and i feel that i must remeber everything i have said, everything i have thought and everything i have done two weeks and even months to the past in order to make sure i had not angered god and sinned. My every waking hour is constant remembering and thinking and it is driving me insane. I have also obsessive and intrusive thougths about soul, antichrist, hell, demons, end times and the apocalypse. My life is almost 80% suffering.
Me too
2 Cor 5:19-21. Eph 1:7
@Kokavalta Me too but your pain must be horrible. May God relieve you
Aldanil
My love goes out to you xox
I have other anxiety disorders but recognise that this is one of the hardest because it interferes with your easy experience of knowing and trusting God's love
I have a daughter with scrupulosity and whenever I hear testimony of other sufferers my mother 💓 goes out to you
Oh man. Lord help him.
This is unbelievably helpful, all this time my chest and stomach gets anxious, and I simply can’t relax until I “Fix it”, ie “Prove to God I don’t believe the bad thoughts”. The problem is fear is stronger than scripture, fear real fear requires immediate attention
@@bryanthomas4907 try asking JESUS for the Holy Spirit he will teach you the bible
We are All Sinners Saved by Grace! Thank You 🙏 Jesus 😊❤😇
As someone who has suffered from OCD for years, and especially scrupulosity, I so appreciate this video! I finally took the plunge last year and went through therapy with an OCD psychologist and ERP. ERP is SO HARD to implement with these particular themes, but it sure does work! I would recommend it to anyone who suffers with this!
Hey how did you manage the erp? My ocd makes me pray for forgiveness when I think I’ve committed a sin, and the erp conflicts with me because I feel like I’m not remorseful and that if I don’t pray and I die in the erp I’ll go to hell
@@kaibaggyg same here, Chief.....that is EXACTLY what I fear...but I also fear...that the people I have harmed are now dead or hurt because I choose to give into my own evil nature and selfish depravity. It is a HORRIBLE condition, and I don't know what to do.
@@kaibaggyg I believe there is a good side to me. But the dark, corrupt side is so bad, that I not only know I will sin again, I feel that that side is the only side God now sees in me. No matter how hard or how many times I pray. I feel He is not even listening any longer.
@@MrMaddox57 I feel the same sometimes but remember faith isn’t the absence of uncertainty, it’s feeling the uncertainty and moving through it. I know how it feels when it flairs up though so it’s easier said then done but god loves and wants to forgive not punish nobody is without sin accept Jesus. We will get there mate!
The moment you realize this obsession is not pleasing to God is actually displeasing to him ...he wants us to be free to be ourselves stop trying to be perfect and start being you!!! The kingdom of heaven is within stop with the worrying It sucks your life energy out of you and every time you feed into it you are Feeding the monster, just stop !!
just remember and repeat "I can do all things through Christ who gives me strength" Philippians 3:14... We CAN get through this together
Thank you. Amen 🙏🏻
Amen 🙏
Yeah I tell myself this a lot. It’s not I but Christ. Sometimes it feels like I am a broken record and going nowhere. But here again; faith NOT feel-ing 😅
I verbalize things like this scripture to no effect. If it works you have a healthy sense of self. For NE and others who don't, your core beliefs are affecting you.
In my case childhood hurts, and my parents, also Christians, had childhood trauma.
WOW? So when I try to ignore a horrible thought that I know I don’t believe, the brain makes my chest and stomach anxious and “Something is wrong”, I think God may have left so I revisit the thought and I’m right back in the horror
Churches, pastors and members themselves often do not understand OCD nor other mental disorders/illnesses. Very often they continue to blame the sufferer and contribute further to the suffering with comments such as:
"You just don't have enough faith in God."
"You've allowed Satan/a demon into your life."
"You are committing a sin you're unaware of and God is trying to get your attention."
To further add to the suffering, churches add to the uncertainty by saying one of the worst things that can be said to an OCD sufferer:
"You can think you're a Christian but come Judgment day, many will find out that Christ never knew them. Then there will be wailing and gnashing of teeth."
There are so many in the church who seem to enjoy pointing out what they perceive to be "sins". These same people will have nothing to do with them other than pointing out sins. They show no compassion. They aren't interested in befriending or understanding them. They aren't interested in encouraging them. They remind me of the Pharisees.
God bless you my friend, I am a believer and I make videos, and I suffer with intrusive thoughts. I know exactly how these poor souls feel.
At wisecracker. You are right. I have probably done it myself to someone.
This is the FIRST PERSON who has told me EXACTLY how Scrupulosity works, it’s Genuis, he’s so right when it’s bad I’m in my head, I HAVE to fix it. In the past I was a invalid, unable to count to ten, or talk, “Hold on” I’d say as I try to fix things, it’s just SUCH A TERROR to think of God leaving me.
That sounds similar to me but instead of fixing I have to pray for forgiveness, in it’s prime it can be several hundred times a day it’s awful. Good luck on your recovery man we will make it one day and god wants to forgive not punish
Thank you ever so much for this wonderful presentation. May God bless you for doing this dedicated service always. I suffer from scrupulosity and have done since my childhood. I only knew this after many many years. Listening to your presentation makes me realize that this is what l have been suffering with so much. I thank God and praise Him for His unfathomable mercy for educating me and providing many resources. Thank you once again and God be with you and bless you heaps.
Thank you so much for this! I watched the whole video. This is the first time someone actually defined my obsessions clearly (they were the faith-syntonic, ruminative obsessions). I thought only the intrusive, ego-dystonic, shocking obsessions existed. Once again, thank you so much. I really appreciate your work!
Same here! I started to think the intrusive ones were the main ones but I have the ruminative one so I'm really glad he addressed that here!
Praise Jesus through all these negative thoughts and emotions . It will be hard at first . But it will get easier . Because He Loves you more than you can ever imagine !! And BE KIND and patient and Loving to yourself no matter what .
These are ONLY thoughts . Stay calm through them and they will pass and get less frequent until they are finally gone .
Look at Saul/ Paul and the horrible things he did to Christians and their families . He forgave himself and wrote “ Forgetting those things that are behind ! I PRESS on to the mark of my High calling in Christ Jesus .” We are ALL sinners. “ Christ died for us while ,we were yet sinners ! “ Jesus loves each and everyone of us .
Keep loving yourself ,be kind to yourself , be patient at all times and just let God Love you .
All God wants to do is love you . Rebuke any and all rejection because God Loves you no matter what .
God Bless each and everyone of you !
Amen...beautiful said.
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Don't obsess over birds flying over your head, that's what intrusive thoughts are
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Really can’t tell if I’m a bad person or not, currently in the process of getting diagnosed for ocd. Ive had thoughts of what if I’m sinning if I like “so and so game or show” because they talked about Jesus, or there was something in it that wasn’t really good. I noticed in almost everything there’s always some sort of thing that is against my beliefs, but I feel so guilty that if I like them God will send me to hell but I know he doesn’t work like that, OCD convinced me I was a awful person and wasn’t worthy of forgiveness for a while, so I was unsure if it was ocd or the Holy Spirit warning me. Then I do compulsions like over analyzing and trying to be 100% certain and if I don’t feel peace I don’t feel good at all, and start worrying about my salvation. If I’m going to hell, and if I don’t give up some interest of mine like a game or show I’ll go to hell, and I’ll constantly ask for reassurance. I’ve had past problems like this but with death, and cleaning specifically. But you’re right about having faith, and I need to stop worrying about doing good deeds and just start praying and continuing in my walk with God, 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼 Thank you sir, and God bless you. Jesus saves
I am glad I found this. My ocd flares up during the winter/spring season and normally does a loop around several topics. It goes from, you aren’t saved, and have a false conviction which I argue with, then says that no one is saved anymore, and then I argue with that. Finally it says, ok you are saved but your a failure as a Christian and Jesus will be displeased with you. It makes it incredibly hard to function, to do the things I enjoy, or even to enjoy church services.
i’m struggling so bad with false conviction. In what way did you struggle with it? sorry if it’s too personal, you don’t have to share if ur not comfortable!
@@catluvvr it usually has something to do with a misunderstanding from a Bible reading, or possibly due to me struggling with a certain sin. When this happens and my ocd is flaring up, it tells me I’m not saved, or I wouldn’t worry about Bible versus, or struggle with sin. Honestly at this point, I’ve dealt with this particular ocd focus for about 4 years I would say, on and off. I’m hoping that it changed focus to something that can more easily be dealt with.
@@slowandsteady779 can i tell you mine? i don't want to trigger anything but i feel like i kinda need reassurance. I don't have a diagnoses, which makes me even more insecure about my struggles. Sometimes I feel like I just make things up to not have to do things, but I relate so much to this video. Im just confused tbh
@@catluvvr I wouldn’t doubt that you have some form of OCD. Mine is self diagnosed as well, but remember, seeking reassurance is actually just what the ocd wants you to do. Honestly the best thing to do from what I can tell is starve the ocd. I would also say that seeking therapy from a Christian Ocd specialist is something that has been recommended several times to me, but mine only flares during periods of seasonal affective disorder, so I never felt the need.
I’ve been having terrible anxiety and unwanted thoughts and a pray I don’t what to do I’m so scared I believe in god but my fear is blocking me
Hey Tony same problem yrr 😭
Hey, it’s okay you’re not alone I struggled with this too, those unwanted thoughts ARENT YOU, what happens in your brain is that it clings to what makes you uncomfortable and that’s why you get those thoughts. for example if someone fears death, they’ll have thoughts of “oh no I’m gonna fall of this bridge” bc it makes them uncomfortable (I know it’s strange science but it’s real, exposure to those thoughts helps bc you become less uncomfortable with them and eventually they leave) you can reply if u have may questions :) God bless
@@nitikanegi5731 plz help me 😭
I really appreciate the knowledge about the vagus nerve. When I wake up in the middle of the night my OCD thoughts are immediately present and I have a terrible feeling in the pit of my stomach. I've always wondered why.
Me too, I'm sorry you do too but it's great to hear I'm not alone
@@Harry-qw5jv me too🙁
I've noticed that when I wake up my OCD is usually the worst, then throughout the day I'm able to gradually recognize it and sometimes calm down
Exactly, night and morning are always a nightmare...
All I can say is ITS ABOUT TIME! I was in the mental hospital 13 times, drugged, and lost a good decade of my life to Scrupulosity because pre-Internet Psychiatrists didn’t even know what it was, imagine being taken off 8Mg Xanax cold WHILE suffering from severe Scrupulosity. I only got well when I learned it was a brain disorder and not me. Thanks
So medications help you or therapy? I have ocd and extremely confused what to do should i take medicine or go for therapy. Its bit intense
@@aaronjames7266 I absolutely love Mark! His videos have also helped me.
@@aaronjames7266 THANKYOU FOR YOUR ENCOURAGEMENT I REALLY APPRECIATE THIS GODBLESS❤
Michael thanks for your comment. I'm struggling with this battle now in my life. How are You today?
I wish this video had been available to me at the age of 12. It would have prevented years of affliction. I'm now 54 and I thank you for it. Everything in this video is so accurate. The more you neutralize it or analyze it, the worse it gets, until it has taken over. I hate to even write about it because I might be feeding it.
Loved this. We truly do fixate on that 1%. That place of feeling unsettled in something just drives the brain wild.
Of the Christians I met in the mental hospital it mainly goes like this, at least it’s how it started for me; “if you think a blasphemous thought against the Holy Spirit God will leave you and your future is in eternal torment”, so with humans if someone put a gun to your head and said “If you think about pink elephants I’ll blow your brains out” if you really believed him you couldn’t help but think of pink elephants. So as a new Christian not understanding salvation or blasphemy against the Holy Spirit it’s the same thing. What’s great about Scrupulosity is that it reveals your heart, it shows us WHAT WED NEVER THINK!,
I understand what you're saying. I've had that type of blasphemous thought against the Holy Spirit. I'm choosing to believe that God's children aren't one thought away from eternal damnation. We received our salvation by believing in our hearts, and confessing with hearts. Thinking didn't bring us salvation, prayerfully thinking can't easily cause it to go away. We're human we hv thousands of thoughts everyday, both good and bad. Jesus didn't always have good thoughts. When the devil tempted him in the wilderness to worship Satan, jump from a high panicle, and turn stone to bread, all of it were thoughts that were processed in Jesus head. There's no way we'll always think pleasing thoughts. Thankfully, God knows the real us and understands our stinking thinking.
You can feel fat but your just stuffed from a meal You can feel pain but you just imagine pain
You can feel not loved but your are love
You can feel like bad things are going to happen but that is just the devil taking advantage
God bless you all
I have all the symptoms of scrupulosity…
one of the symptoms my ocd is that it gives me nagative thoughts like when am praying I here thoughts insulting God immediately when I hear the insult I start arguing with the thought and rebuking the thought
After hearing this I feel like he knows me more than myself and anyone
Thank you for telling me this about scruplocity. I have OCD and suit velocity. I've had many times in the past thinking that I committed the impartable sin. I had dreams about it. Thoughts about it and might have spoken some last minute thinks against the Holy Spirit. They say there's no cure for the stuff, but I'm just so tired of going back and forth back and forth round and round that. It feels like I did something wrong. I know I'm not a perfect Christian, but it seems like what you said. OCD seems to mold on to your religious character and creates problems. I am very relieved by that. God bless you.
CAN I TALK TO YOU? I'M IN THE SAME BOAT
@@Sarah_toscano Hey man, you didn’t commit the unforgivable sin don’t worry! The fact that you’re worrying about it is even more proof I think. Our OCD makes us do many things that we don’t mean or want because of our highly anxious brains. Surely God understands this and loves us despite our problems and mental state! Have a nice day and God Bless!
@@kermkerm THANKS MAN, GODBLESS YOU TOO
@@Sarah_toscano no problem! If you want to talk more I can!
This video......this is EXACTLY what I am going through, and it is literally at it's WORST, because of the evil things I have done and I know I will CONTINUE to do and rationalize away. It is hell....but thank you for this. Trying to find help even if I keep these evil acts up.
I have a kind of obsession where I struggle over theological confusions. For instance, the doctrine of the trinity has come up a lot, so I have once struggled with the thought of, “Oh no! So if Jesus is God, then why did He call the Father His God?” You know and every time this happens I work really hard to come up with an answer for every one of these obsessions
I know this comment is old but I haven't come across others who have this like I do. Have you had any success getting past this? I have to keep telling myself I'm going to believe even despite any doubts but it's so hard. It FEELS like I don't have enough left to hold on to, even though I know there is enough left to believe.
(Not that there’s anything wrong with being gay anyway - in case anybody needs to hear this from a person who also struggles with scrupulosity and also is gay.)
God is clear that homosexuality is wrong though
I hate OCD
Thank you for this. I love your approach, especially the part about self-compasión. ❤️
I've been researching this for a while now. Is it possible to obsess about talking to yourself and speaking your thoughts to "master them and make them go away?" Is talking to yourself a part of your thought process? I obsess about my thoughts and thought process which for me is speaking to myself inside my mind.
My scrupulosity revolves around the fear that the angels God sent me are really demons in disguise, so I been constantly asking for signs since 2015. So when I have this fear, I’ll ask God in my head for him and Jesus only to answer a specific sign I decide on, and sometimes he’ll tell me something specific that will happen if it’s a yes that whether the spirits around me are good and not evil. the signs always do come true. but now my fear is also that can’t figure out if it’s a holy source that gave me all these signs I been getting all my life or not. tonight it’s affecting me really bad and I been watching hours of videos letting me know how to tell if a signs from God, the devil, or coincidence as well as if Satan can answer or give the confirmation signs in place of God (like these good spirits really being bad spirits and say they’re good spirits just to comfort me and relieve me of my fear.) it’s been ver very bad since August 2021 and I’m being tormented by it constantly 😭😩
You know? It is what it is, I got my confirmations and that’s that. I’m gonna push forward. I look for online opinions of “Do I have an angel watching over me?” I’ve gotten yes I’ve gotten no and as everyone says “stop searching for your answer online and just ask God and read the Bible instead!” And you can clearly hear God speak clearest from the bible.” Another is being feared of putting angels first and being accused of worshiping them so I’m like “I gotta ask carefully and mention I don’t worship angels everytime or people are gonna yell at me and tell me I’m going to Hell for worshiping angels” sometimes I’m afraid of expressing and researching angels as a hobby because God will remove angels from my life completely. I learned that all this is religious OCD. God understands I have problems being social and often isolated, using and understanding body language and some facial expressions, don’t like loud noises or being brushed in crowds, that angels is only a narrow interest, and how sometimes I follow my chores and everything same order everyday, but God understands completely since he made me. This video answered most of my questions. Thank you so much pastor!
@Christopher. I am just discovering that I am experiencing the similar things but your torment truly moves me to feel sympathy. I truly pray you will persevere and I will too. It’s a heavy cross to bare…
I want to reach out to someone.
I'm a 12-year-old male that just wants to make my family happy.
but scrupulosity OCD has made me a mess.
I just want my OCD to disappear, to be cured.
please if anyone knows how to help me please reach out to me.
Hey jimmy e i am a person who is suffering from severe religious ocd for almost 2 yrs now. So still suffering but not in worst as it was.so if u wanna any help on making ocd a little easy going i can recommend u some things which helped me.drop a comment of u are interested.
@@minoleedias7409 im interested
@@younginluis3485hi my friend , how are you doing now
Its tiring living with OCD.
EAGLE & CROW
The only bird that dares to peck an eagle is the crow.
It sits on his back and bites his neck.
The eagle does not respond, nor fight with the crow; it does not spend time or energy on the crow.
It just opens its wings and begins to rise higher in the heavens.
The higher the flight, the harder it is for the crow to breathe and then the crow falls due to lack of oxygen.
Learn from the eagle and don't fight the crows.
Just keep ascending.
They might be there for the ride but they will fall off as you soar to the top.
INCREASE YOUR CAPACITY TO SOAR!
When your capacity is increased in any area, you out grow and conquer battles, challenges, seen or unseen.
These thoughts that comes into your mind are from the devil and all you have to do is ignore them. Fly high with God and the higher you go and the more you ignore the more these thoughts will run out of oxygen.
Isaiah 40:31
But they that wait upon the Lord shall renew their strength; they shall mount up with wings as eagles; they shall run, and not be weary; and they shall walk, and not faint.
KEEP GOING!
KEEP GROWING!!
KEEP GROANING!!!
KEEP GLOWING!!!!
DON'T GIVE UP!!!!!
just.. thank you. God bless you for your work. You helped me so much, for the first time i could actually felt understood, all of my fears, and all of the things you said are 100% true. I'm hoping this will help me heal.
Pastor, thank you so much for sharing your knowledge on this platform. I feel understood and not alone in this journey. Thank you for the encouragement. God bless you and your family.
My mind keeps on going against God, his spiritual son, and everyone 😩😫. I feel like I’m possessed by Satan the Devil 😅. He’s always wanted the worst for me all of my life, and I didn’t know until religion came along. Still wondering, am I possessed by Satan for this? (I even smile secretly without my family knowing it) 😳. I’m not fully sure if this is my own mind or not, and I feel immensely evil and guilty for this
Heyyy, it’s okay you aren’t possessed, many people actually struggle with this they’re called intrusive thoughts -unwanted thoughts that make us uncomfortable and come in unwillingly . They happen because your brain realizes that these thoughts make you uncomfortable so your brain clings to them, ITS NOT YOU!!! Or your fault you can reply if you have any questions !!
@@4ngel_cc do u suffer with this as well?
I would say there is probably an offshoot to scrupulosity that afflicts atheists. It has to do with your own moral code... ie, recycling, driving a gas guzzling car, bringing children into the world, environmental damage... doing things that are "morally correct" as per your own moral code.
I have astrology OCD which is severe. My grandpa was an astrologer and it seemed like an innocent thing to study. Instead it brought out scrupulousity in me. There’s clear proof that it’s not true as I think, yet I can’t help but believe it. Traumatic experiences caused mine
hey Mimi can you give some examples
I also study astrology and watch tarot videos now finding out that it is not of god I constantly feel like I commit an unforgivable sin...i constantly ask god to forgive me also douting that he will..
@@denicetapper yeah tarot and astrology is demoni, just completely stop watching those videos and ask for forgiveness, scripture says he's faithful to forgive us our sins if we confessed them.
@@denicetapper He will.
@@denicetapperit isn’t the unforgivable sin, bc it’s not blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. Just say it’s a lie and gently move on now matter how disturbed you feel.
I've had OCD for years and it has changed subject multiple times over the years. I feel that scrupulosity is one of them even though I'm not religious... But what I have found is that whatever form OCD takes, it always attacks what I consider to be important. The outward obsessions/compulsions may be different but the underlining problem is still the same and works the same way just with different content.
Compulsions are like trying to cut out weeds but only cutting half of them out and not cutting out the root.
OCD is like it attacks your sense of self. I could become anyone and then have intrusive thoughts that are opposite to my sense of self...
I've often wondered if OCD intrusive thoughts of this kind are an imbalance of the shadow self conflicting consciously/intrusively with your conscious sense of self... And then feeling guilty about it and trying to neutralize it with counter-thoughts (compulsions) as a form of self-assurance.
I've also seen another video where it was discussed that OCD is more of a feeling problem and that it manifests from the subconscious, my guess is that it stems from some sort of trauma/traumas that are still in the subconscious (stemming from childhood) and play out in different ways... Makes sense because every problem I have now can be traced back to a negative event that happened when I was younger.
Could you give examples of different subjects? I relate.
I'm going through this now.
Notes to myself:
1) You left off at 34:00
2) You're awesome 😎
What a great video, I can relate so much to this! I can relate to the constant analysing, not just with my faith but everything in life; it’s exhausting.
Hello OCD Foundation, I’ve been struggling with “blasphemous thoughts” since a child. These thoughts are awful, however they have been felt almost uncontrollable or at least I hope. The thought itself is cursing at g*d as horrible as I feel writing this I don’t know why I have this thought pop out of nowhere. I never used to have this thought often although anytime I think about g*d it seems as if this thought always has to pop up, and then I go down this downward cycle. I was not raised in a religious home but have found the truth and chose to trust Jesus Christ as my savior around 2019. I have not read much scripture or go to church, I think due to my school schedule as well as mental disorder. Maybe I wasn’t ready to give up everything. I developed panic disorder around 2020 and have been going through hell everyday 24/7 for about 2 years now, fearing everyday for my life something was going to happen to me, going through countless panic attacks heart palpitations, feelings of passing out, chest pains but I’ve always kept hope and faith I will come out of this. I’ve took medication, stopped and chose to naturally fight my demons. I’ve made so much progress however there is always something that triggers my panic to get worse right when I’m at the cusp of getting over it. And it’s “blasphemous thoughts” now. Anything foul my mind directly associates to the lord but I know I would never want to think of this, g*d has shown me so much Bakst the world, how to live correct but my mind shouts. It feels as if there’s another voice in my head, I thought I was demon possessed. I’m 20 years old, I never appreciated my health, the father has shown me the importance of it through my traumatic experience. I love life, I’m so grateful I’m healthy (I’ve done every single test for my heart, brain, blood multiple times) I have a mother, I put her through hell. She doesn’t deserve the pain I brought her. It’s got so bad I even have thoughts of saying “kill me, kill me g*d” even though death is my worst fear. It’s always been, I feel like I’m destined to hell. I keep hearing “f g*d” and I can’t make it stop, I would never say that out loud, I love the lord and trust him. I’m shaking typing this now, I’m scared the lord will hear me and make it a reality. I feel like I’ve destroyed my relationship with him, my heart has hardened to a point of no return. I try to remind myself he loves all his children but it doesn’t help. I pray u read this, do u have any advice for me? Especially with panic disorder, every panic attack feels like something, I’m scared for my life everyday, especially now that I’ve had this thought put out, I’ve never had this thought before. I’m not schizophrenic but I’m scared I will become one down the line, I’m in so much pain I’m so lost. Plz help me
Hello John Harrison I have read this and well I am not a representative of this company, I just today started having thoughts on repeat and I never did much research on the other things that I did until today but a lot of what I do lines up with what he talked about. And like I said I am not a representative of this company or him I would just like to extend if you need someone to talk to through your tough time I would be willing to listen as we battle this together
May you know the lord is with you and loves you and will help you good sir!
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When I was younger I had it really bad. I used to come up with these prayer saying that I didn't mean to think those thoughts. I know now that those prayers wer compulsions. I still go through this but I'll never forget how hard that used to be. I ended up not going to church anymore because I would have those thoughts when I was in church. There was some relief when finding out that there was a name for all of this and it wasn't only me. I'm certain it caused trauma
You are loved.
Yeah...God... I'm done with you. My frontal lobe is on fire. My brain is on fire. I keep retrusting jesus as my saviour and believe he paid for all my sins...was buried and rose again...and all my sin is under the shed blood of Jesus.
I keep doing this all day.
Yes! They feel sticky.... Fight/flight. People say Jesus is coming...I keep retrusting jesus..... This is terrible. 🥺
I'm afraid Jesus is going to leave me because of this....
The pastor said this condition was from sin...oh...I just stay home and retrusting Christ as my saviour. I stay awake at night retrusting jesus paid for all my sin was buried rose again and all my sin is under the blood of Jesus.
I don't have a support system.
Everyone is mad with me
Clergy - scrupulosity is from SIN!!!!
My therapist said to get to heaven I just needed to be a good person....🥺... I said ... you're not saved. Only Jesus is good.
My prayer:
Heavenly father, I believe Jesus is your son and died for my sin, was buried rose again and all my sin under the shed blood of Jesus.
I tell the heavenly father this all day.
My friend, you only need to put your faith in Christ once. Your debt is paid my friend by the finished work of Jesus on the cross. You are saved if you trust in him alone.
Freya you are not alone, I’ll be praying for you. Sending you love!
@@melaniecruickshank340 thank you so much. This is awful. I'm retrusting jesus again...
@@freyaaldrnari6086 Heyy , it’s okay child, you’re going to get through this, God got me through this !!!! So when you “retrust” you’re feeding the compulsions (and dear trust me I KNOW it’s hard , I used to constantly repeat the “please forgive me of all my sins…” prayer almost every 2 minutes) but instead of constantly retrusting - talk to God! Be honest here’s the prayer I pray when I want to do the like forgiveness stuff when I didn’t do anything wrong “Dear Heavenly Father, Thank you Lord for everything, please give me strength against this anxiety in having right now in Jesus Name!!!”
GOD IS WITH YOU ON THIS, HE IS LOVE… “come unto Me all You who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you for I am gentle and humble at heart and you will find rest for your souls” Matthew 11:29
Thank you so much. I can't tell you how much this means to me. Everything you shared fits me exactly and offers me a brand new hope of healing and peace that I thought I couldn't achieve in this life.
I want to say o have this condition but I keep thinking if I’m being too dramatic bc there’s nothing in my personal life that’s happened for me to have these things I really don’t know 🤷♀️
You're not being dramatic. You DONT HAVE to necessarily have gone through something specific in your life (like a trauma) to develope that.
If it's causing you anxiety, and you're struggling to live your life normally, it's not drama, it's something that needs to be addressed and resolved!
Thank you so much for this. I was really struggling today and have been for quite some years and it always an encouragement to remember that this constant feeling of condemnation and shame and guilt that are coming from not being good enough or having so many doubts or being uncertain about what to believe or being constantly in a confused state is a symptom of ocd. Thank you. Thank you.
Though my severe scupulosity bout didn't start til middle school age, looking back I can see where it reared it's ugly little head even in early childhood. I can remember being a devout Christian and "accepting Christ" multiple times in elementary school. Any time they had an altar call whether it be at church camp or some other church function. I was worried that the other times didn't "take". I was able to get intense therapy and actual diagnosis in middle school, then went into remission for over 15 yrs. Now I am getting back involved in church and stupidly watched a long interview w a priest exorcist and the thoughts returned full-swing. Can't even get through prayers w/o constant bombardment. Thankfully this time isn't nearly as bad as it was years ago, just discouraging. Thank you for providing education on this much ignored but prevalent disorder.
Philippians 4:13 I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me.
I have the same problems I think of a curse word in front of God's name and I have to repeat it. It really can hinder my life.
Hello Ted, Thanks a lot for your wonderful information! Last night for the first time after a long while I slept well after watching your very soothing and informative video and I really could realize what's going on in my inside, I have been suffering from OCD since years and always I was seeking for a solution, I can't say enough that how you were helpful for me! God bless you Ted and stay always healthy and in peace!
Suffered with depression for mamy years ..... am on medication (SSRIs). I now realise that the depression may be associated with SCRupilosity.....when depressed I just have this "feeling" - it invades my whole body - every fibre of my being feels "lost", rejected by God, etc. Often coming out of church feeling worse than when I went in. Somehow, I don't know how, I just grit my teeth and press on. Just so tired and exhausted.....want to go to sleep and never wake up. But I don't, I keep pressing on .....
I cannot wait to get into this video. I just realized this was a thing and I'm suffering immensely from it
I always battle with my thoughts because I'm always saying "what if I'm wrong ". I fight the compulsion to act on my thoughts and dealing with the fear of not being right with God. I'm a leader of my group and I'm going through this. I believe God is faithful!
Thank you ❤ It’s helpful. Does it make you over pray or over meditate?
Very helpful content. You made a great analize! I ve been through this and i still struggle
This was a very helpful video. Thank you.
Thank you for taking the time to put together and share this insightful presentation. God bless those who struggle with this affliction. Thank you Dr., for proposing that we identify this as an “affliction”, this is such a helpful way for Christians to wrap their heads around what is happening.
Wow this is so amazing, id be doing something and that ocd feeling would kick in and I would start analyzing and thinking of ways to fix it and I’d keep repeating that same phrase to myself all day to feel ok, the weird thing was there was always a new phrase everyday to help me, and the old one never worked
And I would keep repeating that phrase to help me every 30 seconds to 3 minutes and I’d be talking to to someone and I would be blinking like a million times because like your said those thoughts to fix the ocd would actually do the opposite of peace
Thank you for sharing with us, Rayan
Ayo lowky have the same thing what has helped u our
When I read a religious text and someone tells me it's wrong or something, even though I know deep down it's not wrong I keep checking sources over and over again just to make sure there is nothing wrong with the text and I get really anxious. I know I have this because I insist on doing the same sin over and over again. My heart is not pure anymore because of my addiction to that sin.
Thank you for sharing your story with us Mr. Ditkovich! Every other 3rd Tuesday of the month we host a Faith & OCD livestream (the next is April 19th) on UA-cam, Facebook, and LinkedIn that is a great space to ask questions and talk to other like minded individuals and experts on this topic. If you would like to watch, all livestream information can be found at iocdf.org/peaceofmind/
This is so rooted in trauma. It is a trauma response.
Our hearts are wicked, nothing good comes from our flesh, I suffer from OCD it's a torture. I just want to be in God's s kingdom already so I can be free from sin that is causing this.
I've been having such bad sexual thoughts about Jesus and The Holy Spirit. I can't deal with them anymore. I feel so disgusted, empty, lost, I just want this to end. I'm crying writing this and I feel as though I'm falling. I feel so bad for my mum, my dad, my entire family. Please, I just don't want to do anymore. I feel lost and empty, I just want it to be gone. Please.
You are okay. You are loved.
You are so loved and never alone. God is always there for you. He sees your true heart. Please be strong 🙏
Daniela, you Must remember, YOU ARE NOT YOUR THOUGHTS. Thoughts are just thoughts. The fact that the thoughts bother you proves that they're not really you. Some how u must separate your crazy thoughts from who You Really Are. It will be hard but keep moving forward everyday.
How are you doing nowadays?
Hey how are you now
So grateful to find your site and glean from your wisdom!! As an MFT in training and a devout Christian, I’m so excited to learn more about this to help family and friends and clients alike. I am sharing this video with many! Thank you!!
Thank you so much, I've been having thoughts like this for two years. I don't know if I have OCD, but this fits my experience better than any other answer I've seen or thought of.
why life provided us with a body and a brain that is not prepared then to accept without distress or being triggered WHAT REAL LIFE actually IS. My undertanding is that the deisgn of creation is qrong then, from a biological point of view. OK WELL THEM BLAME THE HUMAN BRAIN (WHICH IS A CREATION OF GOD, BY THE WAY) FOR BEING DYSREGULATING when you know we cannot expect otherwise. BLAME THE biological BRAIN FOR SIN then and dont mess with the soul, the feelings or the heart of the person. Feelings are not emotions, emotions originate in the brain, feelings originate in the heart/spiritual heart of the person and are of a different nature a spiritual nature not a chemical one. The mind cannot know if it can tolerate uncertainty or not, because your brain basically cannoot not know what you will be against, it might tolerate it it might NOT, you dont know
Awesome seminar! You can't believe how much this has just helped me through my difficulties. Thank you sooo much!
I believe whether you choose to call it OCD or spiritual attack what matters is that you are talking about the same thing, so no differentiation between the mental realm and the spiritual realm should be made. Whether you say the DEVIL was responsible for attacking you with thoughts that make you feel guilt because the Bbile says he is the acuser of men, or you say that you have developed OCD in the psychiatric jargon, IT IS ALL THE SAME THING you are referring to.
Great stuff. Thanks for sharing .
I have type two and it’s been my personal hell since 2020. I’ll try to seek God but it gets so overwhelming and soul crushing I completely leave the church and avoid anything to do with God. I go through months of avoidance and rampant sin to cope with the belief that there’s no hope left for me. I hate it so much. I run from my fears but constantly have guilt and fear in the back of my mind when I am running
For me I fixate on a word like Fool, I know God says not to say this word. I feel like my brain honestly starts fixating on this word. I do everything in my power not to think about it but it makes it worse. When it first started though thinking of other religions felt like I was sinning against God. It’s hard.
Can people with scrupulosity OCD be unmotivated to change? I know this sounds weird, but I know someone who has it, but is also very narcissistic in a covert way ( he actually does fulfil all the traits), and the psychologist who treats us both let slip that this person is unmotivated to change ( she has counselled him for years).
I'm just trying to wrap my head around this, because you'd think that someone with a crippling condition like scrupulosity would want to be free of it. I kind of concur with the psychologist though because of my years of knowing this other person. He does seem pretty unwilling to change anything about his life and that's always been the way it is with him.
Other people,, due to theiir lack of knowledge of themselves and this subject matter would INDEED shame the person who has religious OCD, its their ego talking there that wants to feel superior based on spiritual matters this time. So in that regard the fear of the person with OCD isnt without a true reason-
Thank you so much. This is so helpful for me.
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you so much ..so helpful..Ive been struggling for months and months...its been a torment but this will help me xx
struggling depression and anxiety i read a bible and then this happen i always think that i am a failure to my kids and always thinking that i am not a good mother that i am sinner and i have to pay my karma debt 😢😢😢 and i don't know what to do anymore i wanna quit life 😢
Thanks. Protestant Christian here struggling with scrupulousity
Thank you for all your help! I struggle with this immediate need to get engaged with my boyfriend. It's been 1 year and he gave me a promise ring, we have struggle with sexual sin but on the uphill trajectory. I just am so worried we will sin again and it will trash everything and we get engaged too late. He says he is just waiting to pay off dept. This has caused a lot of discussions between us and get so much anxiety about this. Is this reasonable? Thank you
Muslim here, I feel grateful for this video Thanks alot DR.Ted
Definitely helpful. Thank you!
very helpful, thank you 🙏🏽
Is there anyone that can help me? Im so worried about everything i do every time i sin i try to confess but just end up listing my sins and rambling on and so it just causes me to pray long useless prayers for hours and its taking a toll now I get discouraged when i have to pray because i get scared that i will ramble with empty words for hours
@fugitive8448 also I’ve gone through a similar thing
@@noahcole6856 how's it going for you now?
They are demonic because those thoughts are not of God.
I used to think seeking first God's kingdom meant God somehow would somehow take care of my needs and my responsibilities would be taken care of supernaturally like he would give strength if I went without eating to evangelize and that He would somehow compensate by giving me more time to take care of responsibilities. As it turns out seeking first God's kingdom has actually meant my needs not being met, going without food and sleep and showers, and responsibilities like cleaning bedroom or staying on top of mail or bills are not being taken care of which has made me take a step back and ask myself what "Seeking First His Kingdom...and all these things will be added to you" really means.
@susankoch6381 what do you mean?
Very helpful thank you so much!
isn't googling 'beating scruplulosity' seeking reassurance as well? too many meta levels!
Type 1 person here - I call it my mental Tourettes.
Here’s my question…Is OCD directly from the Fall of Man into sin, whether chemically (DNA corrupted from the Fall) or by our sin nature (psych) ?
OCD is caused by the Fall of Man, because the Fall is what caused sickness and death
This disorder was part of the reasons in became agnostic.
I genuinely feel intense sorrow for Christians because I can’t imagine being one without this disorder is even possible.
And I’m really upset that a whole demographic of evangelicals believe that I deserve to go to hell forever for having even the slightest doubt. The intense hatred I’ve received by evangelicals mixed with my sorrow for them is sometimes overwhelming.
Jesus loves you so much!
That is horrible , I speak as a Christian who struggles all the time mentally but I hope you know I care and hope you will see the truth not the distortions esp from bad representers of Christ.
One thing that helped me get over some scrupulous feelings was realizing that the Jews circumcised each other but, that didn’t automatically make them homosexual just because they witnessed the sexual organ of the same gender. It’s about the heart not just what’s on the outside.
I’m only 35% through this lesson and it’s excellent, although I don’t understand this term scrupulosity.
Hey, I have problem. Im 19 yr old man. I dont know it is God telling me, the enemy or myself. I first felt fear about plucking eyebrows in the middle about a year ago. I didnt know it was God or the enemy. I felt fear it is a sin, but I didn’t believe it was a sin. Then I let it go or promised I wouldn’t do it again, not sure. Then I felt peace for about a week. Then same happened with shaving my beard, trimming nails, etc. That all is confusing me. It happens also when I am on instagram and whatever bible verse there is it says let it go, it is sin, then other thoughts become positive saying you have been lied to it was a sin, devil comes to steal, kill and destroy. Sometimes positive sometimes negative. It is all confusing to me. Even thoughts of blaspheming the Holy Spirit came in mind, that if I believe it is not a sin that I will go to hell. Like… I really dont want to blaspheme God or the Holy Spirit. Can I do all these things? Is God telling me not to do something or is he allowing me or it is the enemy or myself.
Forgot to mention, when I read article about collosians 2:20-23 I think, I felt immediate peace and joy, even started laughing of peace. Can it be God is saying to me I can do all these things and those are not a sin?
Plucking your eyebrows, trimming your nails, etc aren't sins at all. You're just grooming yourself, which everyone should. I'm sure God wants you to look your best. It's not God's Will for you to live in confusion. A lot of things people are thinking God is speaking to them may not really be God but guilt, blame, or OCD. God has your best at heart. Do what you know is best for you.