The Struggle with Doubt, Uncertainty and OCD

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  • @lizamena9124
    @lizamena9124 3 роки тому +88

    Jesus I praise you! Mark Your ministry is powerful and such a blessing to me! I thank my Jesus for your life Mark De Jesus, no body could help me, not even people that tried deliverance from these attacks against my mind, I'm so grateful for you my brother, there are no words to describe how i have been blessed by your video and all other video... 🙏 Thank you for helping me so much!

  • @angelhart2820
    @angelhart2820 Рік тому +14

    Me again. I dealt with this issue with the Word. Philippians 4:6-8
    And 2 Corinthians 4,5 and I'm 67 yrs old and was paralyzed almost 40 yrs ago from a motorcycle accident. Didn't go to a counselor even. It was the Word and prayer. God is so powerful and absolutely good.

    • @jacqueschauvin1398
      @jacqueschauvin1398 Рік тому +2

      Angelhart You are strong. I wish i had your Faith. I am 68 and disabled too. I suffer from doubt and scrupulosity and worry about so many things including my salvation. Pray for me

  • @MonicaBU
    @MonicaBU 2 роки тому +25

    Examine yourselves to see whether you are in the faith; test yourselves. Do you not realize that Christ Jesus is in you -unless, of course, you fail the test? 2 Corinthians 13:5
    Mark, this is the verse that I would use to make me check myself over and over if I was saved or not. I love the next verse 6, which should have give me peace and hope but I would focus on verse 5 and stay anxious about it. Thank you for posting these videos. They’ve been very insightful and helpful. God bless you!

    • @amyw37
      @amyw37 Рік тому +4

      Hi Monica. So test yourself. What do you believe? If you believe that Jesus Christ paid it all for you, and u have nothing more to add to that, and you are resting in that, then you've passed the test. :)

  • @Laskull
    @Laskull 3 роки тому +20

    One of rhe most powerful things that helped me with this uncertainty was the song "You know better than I" from the movie Joseph King of dreams. At one point he says "I thought I took the surest path, but that road led me here" this was when Joseph was thrown into the dungeon after being falsely accused by potifers wife.

    • @cherieroe2878
      @cherieroe2878 2 роки тому +2

      I like that song as well. It has a wonderful message.

    • @cmf5006
      @cmf5006 Рік тому +1

      Me too! Such a great song.

    • @ShelbiBudish
      @ShelbiBudish 5 місяців тому

      I listened to that song so much this past winter. I thought I was silly for it. Thank you for sharing.

  • @loriwelch9015
    @loriwelch9015 Рік тому +12

    This is so helpful! Especially coming from someone who has gone through it and has overcome it! I will always watch this video when I go through my struggles with OCD and anxiety! Thank you!! God is really using you!

  • @JamesVestal-dz5qm
    @JamesVestal-dz5qm Рік тому +3

    Thank you lord for giving us Christian churches in our local community to help us better learn your word.

  • @its_ermann
    @its_ermann 3 роки тому +13

    "That ye put off concerning the former conversation the old man, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts; And be renewed in the spirit of your mind; And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness."
    Ephesians 4:22‭-‬24 ♡

  • @amrithaajith726
    @amrithaajith726 3 роки тому +17

    Thanks for this teaching..I'm really fed up with the scrupulosity..

    • @codyhicks2447
      @codyhicks2447 Рік тому +4

      Me too.. you’re not alone. Praying for healing for all of us, in Jesus’ Mighty Glorious Name. Thank you Abba Father for using our brother from another mother Mark Dejesus in such amazing ways. A way that speaks volunes to us

  • @healbyveronica6132
    @healbyveronica6132 2 роки тому +14

    I'm so grateful for Mark. You're videos do help me a lot. I struggle with OCD thinking, doubt, disbelief, comparison etc. I think Gos is still holding on me to. I just don't want to disappoint him when I'm feeling this way or going through life as a Christian and still have these types of thoughts/feelings. Mark you are such a blessing to the world of believers and unbelievers may you're ministry continue to be blessed abundantly.

  • @HS-tm4xe
    @HS-tm4xe 3 роки тому +32

    Mark, you addressed so many points. I think I need to listen to this about 100 times. Wow! Thank you!

    • @lizamena9124
      @lizamena9124 3 роки тому +6

      Me too! I deal with some heavy heavy spiritual attacks against my mind, people have prayed for me,, i went to someone that does deliverance nothing, im here listening to Mark De Jesus hallelujah Hallelujah I want to cry cause no one can understand me but everything he is saying is 💯 true! On my way to be free from this God is so so so good! 🙏

    • @vagirlf.4513
      @vagirlf.4513 2 роки тому +1

      Agree 💯

    • @rockerune
      @rockerune 2 роки тому +3

      Go for 97 times. OCD will hate that it is almost 100 and note "perfect"

  • @gabriellethesinger24
    @gabriellethesinger24 Рік тому +7

    I’m struggling with relationship ocd right now. Thank you Mark for your content! 58:04

  • @throughtheshadow9013
    @throughtheshadow9013 2 роки тому +5

    Some say the gift of healing has ceased but I truly believe you and your wife have that gift. These videos are transforming my life and my mind through the power of the Word and Truth. Praise God and God bless you!

  • @anniec4867
    @anniec4867 3 роки тому +25

    This series are a real blessing! This topics are not very popular! But so needed!! ✨ thank you very much for taking the time to do this

  • @MariposaSings
    @MariposaSings 3 роки тому +4

    I feel like you’re talking to me ! It’s crazy because I just told God I don’t know who I am. I feel like God has allowed me to realize that to heal me . ❤️❤️❤️❤️
    God bless you Mark! Love you brother !

  • @bigfigism
    @bigfigism 2 роки тому +2

    trust is earned. can't trust anyone who does not do what they say.

  • @JamesVestal-dz5qm
    @JamesVestal-dz5qm Рік тому +4

    This is a good recommendation from the brain doc! Faith and ocd together.

  • @lisapicillo7565
    @lisapicillo7565 3 роки тому +11

    What a blessing this was. Thank Jesus and thank you mark! ❤️

  • @amandadupree9970
    @amandadupree9970 2 роки тому +6

    This is exactly what I am going through thank you I am struggling

  • @JamesVestal-dz5qm
    @JamesVestal-dz5qm Рік тому +1

    I read genesis in the back row of church on August 6 so that's my background when I review it on August 7. Fascinating way to augment your Bible study by altering the 5 senses without weed!

  • @CP-jv6sc
    @CP-jv6sc 3 роки тому +11

    This is spot on. Really good.

  • @rachaelcofer1273
    @rachaelcofer1273 2 роки тому +6

    Man you're anointed to teach on this!!! So happy I found your videos wow!

  • @sunset33533
    @sunset33533 3 роки тому +6

    Thanks for this. I also liked the book "30 Days to Stop Obsessing" by Harper.

  • @JamesVestal-dz5qm
    @JamesVestal-dz5qm Рік тому

    Officer Casper gave me a beautiful life long education about psychedelic drugs when I was a student at avalon charter school! God bless officer casper!

  • @hannahfloyd2723
    @hannahfloyd2723 11 місяців тому +1

    Mark,
    I feel as though this is the woman at the well situation (in a completely different aspect of course) that you have said all the things I’ve struggled with and every did and thought. You’re also right about the deep mother wound, at least for me. THANK YOU 🙏

  • @alectrae5371
    @alectrae5371 2 роки тому +3

    Thank you Mark, your videos have helped me so much, especially this one. And thank you JESUS! ❤️

  • @CassandraJaey
    @CassandraJaey 3 роки тому +8

    I’m so thankful for you and your content!!

  • @rabikagurung7154
    @rabikagurung7154 2 роки тому +3

    This was powerful. I’m so grateful! I thank God for helping me find your video

  • @bethskinner7476
    @bethskinner7476 2 роки тому +3

    Thank you for your teaching! You just don't know how this helps me!

  • @benbradley9798
    @benbradley9798 3 роки тому +7

    Thank you so much for this Mark. This was really a blessing and spoke to exactly what I am going through right now. 🙌

  • @zeroloid9762
    @zeroloid9762 3 роки тому +4

    This is the greatest video I've ever had the pleasure of listening to. I get it now. Thanks!

  • @marleneroncskevitz7707
    @marleneroncskevitz7707 Рік тому +2

    I can't thank you enough for this teaching!!! ❤ God bless you, Mark.

  • @marcusbuckner5582
    @marcusbuckner5582 3 роки тому +1

    I remember an old 70’s secular book; ‘I’m okay, you’re okay’. Maybe a Christian writer should write one entitled’ Im not okay, you’re not okay’. Always spot on: I chuckled about you relating how the Pastor creating a measure of fear of one’s salvation. Thx so much!! ✝️🔜

  • @sharonknezevic3357
    @sharonknezevic3357 Рік тому +2

    I feel really understood in my issues through your ministry. Very important. Thank you very much! :)

  • @vagirlf.4513
    @vagirlf.4513 3 роки тому +4

    Thank you Mark! This ministry is life changing.

  • @deborahwestwood451
    @deborahwestwood451 3 роки тому +5

    Thank you so much for providing this content. So helpful. Really nice to hear from someone who has struggled in these areas!

  • @stacybearfield2641
    @stacybearfield2641 Рік тому +2

    Amen.This was so helpful. I really needed this word.

  • @erikbergner1002
    @erikbergner1002 2 роки тому +4

    Hi Mark what i want to tell you that your Videos have been such a blessing and helped me much

    • @marktdejesus
      @marktdejesus  2 роки тому +2

      Wow, thank you

    • @liammcelroy6734
      @liammcelroy6734 4 місяці тому

      @@marktdejesus I am almost 15 I am a guy, but I recently got saved 7 months ago, and I think that I am going through this plus I feel isolated because no one in my family is at least a BORN AGAIN believer.

  • @Omatimestwo
    @Omatimestwo 3 роки тому +4

    Thank you. I am “enjoying”, in a way, lol, these teachings. They are very helpful.

  • @Shyneece21
    @Shyneece21 Рік тому +2

    I love this so inspirational thanks Marc I’m seeing the darkness ❤❤

  • @rachaelcofer3425
    @rachaelcofer3425 2 роки тому +2

    What a blessing from God your work has already been and only been following you less than a week! Ordering your book on dealing with fear today. ❤

  • @iancoggeshall9057
    @iancoggeshall9057 10 місяців тому

    I can’t believe how much this hit home. Literally almost everything you said is what I deal with or have experienced with. I’m very thankful for this video. Thank you!

  • @CaptainBvi
    @CaptainBvi 2 роки тому +2

    Mark, I cant thank you enough for your podcasts and videos. God bless you.

  • @christinaprince3906
    @christinaprince3906 2 роки тому +3

    God bless you!

  • @JamesVestal-dz5qm
    @JamesVestal-dz5qm Рік тому

    I will do extra Bible readings this month to fuel the holy spirit for next semester!

  • @naomizmiti
    @naomizmiti 3 роки тому +1

    Thank you for your obedience and kindness, Mr deJesus 🙏🏼
    And thank God for leading me to this

  • @vagirlf.4513
    @vagirlf.4513 3 роки тому +2

    This info is G O L D !!! So good

  • @makaila5391
    @makaila5391 2 роки тому +2

    This helped sooo much! Thank you, God bless you!

  • @JamesVestal-dz5qm
    @JamesVestal-dz5qm Рік тому

    Katarina kamenar was praying at me for success. I hear you! I like you!

  • @domcruise274
    @domcruise274 3 роки тому +5

    Wow I didn’t realize I had OCD. I gotta fix this OCD nooow!!!!

  • @jollymalayil5284
    @jollymalayil5284 3 роки тому +2

    Great content and simple

  • @kellyashley76
    @kellyashley76 6 місяців тому

    Many thanks! I took notes. I really need every word of this!

  • @JamesVestal-dz5qm
    @JamesVestal-dz5qm Рік тому

    I'm praying for you either way back the blue jack! I am a chemical engineer first!

  • @davidfayfield6594
    @davidfayfield6594 3 роки тому +3

    Great video. Could you talk about health anxiety in a video?

    • @hsee7220
      @hsee7220 3 роки тому +1

      I would find that very helpful too Mark

  • @vagirlf.4513
    @vagirlf.4513 3 роки тому +2

    Thank you for this !!!! It hit head on. Thank you !!!!!!

  • @bluesguitartipstechniques7192
    @bluesguitartipstechniques7192 Рік тому +1

    Thanks so much for this

  • @PikuPiku8
    @PikuPiku8 Рік тому +1

    Thank you Mark🙏❤️

  • @bokanimpofu1601
    @bokanimpofu1601 2 роки тому +1

    Ur a blessing sir

  • @asijahjett2904
    @asijahjett2904 3 роки тому +2

    Awesome video

  • @JamesVestal-dz5qm
    @JamesVestal-dz5qm Рік тому

    My full transcripts on psychedelics drugs today is that they are psychologically addictive religious experiences.

  • @epicmissionmedia
    @epicmissionmedia 2 роки тому +2

    Very helpful thank you!

  • @diegopisaartworks9511
    @diegopisaartworks9511 9 місяців тому

    Thank you so much. God Bless!

  • @JamesVestal-dz5qm
    @JamesVestal-dz5qm Рік тому

    More coffee research would be helpful for me to have a better relationship with my mom!

  • @ConnorCampbell-g8b
    @ConnorCampbell-g8b Місяць тому +1

    I have been having compulsion on feeeling like I’m ashamed of the gospel

  • @kelbygoudey661
    @kelbygoudey661 2 роки тому +3

    What about 2 Corinthians 13 where Paul says to the Corinthians examine yourself to see if your in the faith? Or 1 Peter where it says make your calling and election sure?

  • @morganep5595
    @morganep5595 7 місяців тому

    I haven’t been able to enjoy listening to a good sermon for about 2 years now, I feel condemned and get horrible thoughts and feeling towards the Lord and things that I should enjoy and love as a believer. I get horrible thoughts and feeling that an apostate would have, I don’t want that! I want a close relationship with Jesus again but it feels like I’m getting further away from that.

  • @Marc-Vickers
    @Marc-Vickers 3 роки тому +2

    Would love to hear how OCD affected your ministry.

  • @JamesVestal-dz5qm
    @JamesVestal-dz5qm Рік тому

    Pastor David brown I'm reviewing Armstrong chapel worship resource - August 6, 2023. I will win at men's Bible study this friday!

  • @curtiseli542
    @curtiseli542 8 місяців тому

    Uncertainty won't drive me crazy

  • @JamesVestal-dz5qm
    @JamesVestal-dz5qm Рік тому

    It was studied today at pickleball whether back the blue jack is a law enforcement officer in the state of ohio. We played a good last game back the blue jack 8 to 11. Not enough information was provided to answer whether he is a licensed LEO in OH or not.

  • @JamesVestal-dz5qm
    @JamesVestal-dz5qm Рік тому

    I added Armstrong chapel to my homework by reviewing their handouts and comparing them with other parts of the bible.

  • @drewbaker3347
    @drewbaker3347 3 роки тому +1

    Will there be notes/outline in the second and third OCD podcast? I had them on the first but didn't see any last one or today

    • @drewbaker3347
      @drewbaker3347 3 роки тому

      ...I mean on paper in the intro emails

  • @ConnorCampbell-g8b
    @ConnorCampbell-g8b Місяць тому +1

    I feel like I am ashamed of the gospel but when I would act on this thought I began to get compulsive. Now I’m very confused how I can make sure I am not ashamed but I can’t ac5 in this compulsion. Mark what should I do

  • @JamesVestal-dz5qm
    @JamesVestal-dz5qm Рік тому

    The reason I took the antipsychotic at midnight is because the voices are my mom's. They aren't halucinations.

  • @CharlieBass5
    @CharlieBass5 Рік тому

    I'm afraid that I can't do what I'm supposed to do, I also don't know how to trust.

  • @jacobwallace8017
    @jacobwallace8017 2 роки тому +9

    I’m scared of committing or of having already committing the unpardonable sin
    (I know not an uncommon fear. But please read)
    I suffer horrendous blasphemous thoughts that are so vile and abominable it makes me think that if it isn’t coming from demons I am truly lost to God. But if it is coming from Demons, I question how they could have such easy access to my thoughts? And if they can just speak into my own thought stream so easily, why are they doing it now this way? With such vile corrupt damnable thoughts? It’s been happening for 3 years now. It initially started happening after I was baptized. I was living in sexual sin even after my baptism. And now I have turned from my sexual sin and haven’t given in to temptation to commit sexual sin or watch pornography again for almost a year now. But the thoughts are still happening. I repented and cried out to God on September the 30th 2021 and I knew for certain he answered my cries and forgave me of my sins. I just knew he did. And a peace that surpassed all understanding was with me in that moment. And I lived off of that experience for a solid month or 2 but eventually doom, gloom and despair came back. I still suffer from these awful blasphemous thoughts. And my dreams are really dark and ominous. I am overly fearful about committing the unpardonable sin or fearful that I’ve already committed it. And I also get bad secondhand anxiety when I hear stories of people who have actually as much as spoken a blasphemous word against God. It terrifies me for them because I’m like “oh wow that’s really awful. What despair”. Truthfully, I do not know what’s happening or has happened to me. When I read the bible, it seems to be so intense and condemning to me that every other verse I can find a way that proves to me that I am condemned or beyond salvation. Its such an odd and frightening experience. I also have reached out for help from other people, but I quickly dismantle and resist their advice heavily because I think they don’t know enough or as much as I think that I know and thus their help is in vain. Its very odd because I find myself defending my own damnation when other people try to help me. I just do not get it. What happened to me within the last 3 years to make me such a nervous neurotic wreck. Its like the light switched in my head and now no matter how much peace I get its never enough. No matter how much assurance I receive I’m like a junkie needing another fix. Your podcast has revealed a lot of truths to me man. And I want to tell you how grateful I am for it. I may not have full resolution to my issues. Or I may still have such a weak faith as to believe God does love me even past my willful sin and blasphemous thoughts, but I can definitely see a light at the end of this dreary gloomy despairing tunnel. Which is interesting because all it takes is a teeny tiny light of hope for the entire house of cards of doubt to come tumbling down. Thanks man.
    Last thought before I go. When I do read the bible and find myself feeling overly condemned, I realize it’s not so much as what I am reading that’s condemning me. It’s how I myself am interpreting the context of its message that condemns me. Like I have such an ego about my understanding of it that I’m like “yep that’s what this passage means. And because it means this, I am a reprobate cut off by God”. Like its crazy to me. I read a verse that scares me like in the book of Hebrews about willful sin or falling away or about being like Esau and I just immediately am like all of its true and that is me and thus I am a lost cause. Truly It brings some weird sense of comfort knowing that I am not the only one who is experiencing this psychologically unsettling event.

    • @georgplaki8983
      @georgplaki8983 2 роки тому

      Can i ask you a question? Do you feel the effect of the holy spirit in your life? Do you feel its presence and that you bear fruit?

    • @lukastheprussian
      @lukastheprussian 2 роки тому +2

      Im struggling with blasphemous intrusive thoughts since 10 days and by finding Marcs Channel I realized that so many of my Symptoms are pointing to OCD. I Love god and Jesus and it is really hard for me to having such Problems because I feel guilty and anxious
      I will Post a Link to the Video that really gaining Hope again that God is more Loving than I imagined and that the unpardonable Sin is Something different than intrusive obsessive thoughts. I will pray for you my Brother

    • @lukastheprussian
      @lukastheprussian 2 роки тому

      ua-cam.com/video/IweTYNhJWpA/v-deo.html

    • @georgplaki8983
      @georgplaki8983 2 роки тому +2

      @@lukastheprussian Thank you Brother :). But let me tell you something that someone told me. If we are unsure we did the unpardoble Sin and it is safe to say we are going to hell, why does God still love us then? Why do we still have the Holy Spirit inside us? No one knows everything he did or said in the past, but shouldnt be everyone concerned then? Why does he still care about us if we are already doomed and there is nothing we can do about it? You see? That makes absolutly no sense and God is not like that. This showed me that there is nothing to worry about. I was also in this situation but i have overcome them, altough i currently also struggle with anxiety but because of other things.
      I think we all have to learn much more about and from God but especially Grace and Love. God Bless you :)

    • @Swagu33
      @Swagu33 2 роки тому +2

      Whenever you feel guilty and condemned for old sins, just remember that Saul round up Christians before turning to Christ and becoming Paul. We've all don't things we wish we could take back. And that's where the grace of God comes in. And blasphemous thoughts are not the unforgivable sin, because if it was, we'd all be doomed imo. Because I'm sure everyone has had those types of thoughts at least once. It's about whether or not you truly believe or want the thought imo. Which obviously you don't.

  • @aureliomartinezjr8328
    @aureliomartinezjr8328 3 роки тому +1

    What about OCD and Phobias? And fear of panic attacks?

  • @mariovasquez7672
    @mariovasquez7672 3 роки тому +4

    I wish was this info was also available in Spanish

    • @anniec4867
      @anniec4867 3 роки тому

      Estaba pensando si se puede poner subtítulos!! Para ayudar a hacerlos😉

  • @JamesVestal-dz5qm
    @JamesVestal-dz5qm Рік тому

    Katarina kamenar asked me if I had the time to see her at a play and I told her no because I had to go home and mow my mom's lawn!

  • @CharlieBass5
    @CharlieBass5 Рік тому

    My mother and father were both alcoholic.

  • @JamesVestal-dz5qm
    @JamesVestal-dz5qm Рік тому

    Imagine just wanting a girlfriend and some dudes beat the girlfriends they already got!

  • @JamesVestal-dz5qm
    @JamesVestal-dz5qm Рік тому

    I did a job that Alex huss and Nina Lehman weren't qualified to do last night.

  • @Luv_Rin40
    @Luv_Rin40 Рік тому

    I definitely hit the google 😂

  • @JamesVestal-dz5qm
    @JamesVestal-dz5qm Рік тому

    Jesus read the old testament in the synagogue and so I read it in the church.

  • @JamesVestal-dz5qm
    @JamesVestal-dz5qm Рік тому

    I believe drugs are something you should pray on. They should be legal in safe amounts and people should turn to God for help not depending on them.

  • @lovewinsmary
    @lovewinsmary 3 роки тому +1

    ❤❤❤

  • @vanessadesirechavez
    @vanessadesirechavez Рік тому

    Do I have to have "neat freak" OCD in order to have Scrupulosity??

  • @JamesVestal-dz5qm
    @JamesVestal-dz5qm Рік тому

    How does a nurse swallow like 80 pills? Physically? Or drink that much alcohol? Most likely the pills suppressed the vomiting and then she died of alcohol poisoning afterwards.

  • @angelhart2820
    @angelhart2820 Рік тому

    Curious, did Jesus label people? I really don't know, I'm sincerely asking

  • @user-cu3xn4xj3i
    @user-cu3xn4xj3i 5 днів тому

    So, it's all my fault.

  • @JamesVestal-dz5qm
    @JamesVestal-dz5qm Рік тому

    Pro life is about you were a baby once. You were born once. Even top of his class at mit has a creator.

  • @JamesVestal-dz5qm
    @JamesVestal-dz5qm Рік тому

    I believe in evidence based religion. I believe on the bible because I cannot disprove it and I have no material or object or specification better, do you understand that?

  • @lukastheprussian
    @lukastheprussian Рік тому

    6:02

  • @carkrueger
    @carkrueger 2 роки тому

    Any discussion of the solution to OCD without the mention of ERP Exposure and Response Prevention is not love. Jesus through doctors has given OCD sufferers a path to freedom. The gold standard treatment for OCD is ERP therapy. Please seek a professional for help. OCD is no joke. It is debilitating. It is not your fault. Please seek out ERP therapy and end your nightmare.

  • @JamesVestal-dz5qm
    @JamesVestal-dz5qm Рік тому

    God created man to document evidence and reason. God taught man when to science.

  • @JamesVestal-dz5qm
    @JamesVestal-dz5qm Рік тому

    Think about how much money you could save by reading the king James version of the holy bible!

  • @JamesVestal-dz5qm
    @JamesVestal-dz5qm Рік тому

    Toilet fasting to quit tobacco!

  • @worldnewsvideos
    @worldnewsvideos 3 роки тому

    :"(

  • @jcjamlig
    @jcjamlig 3 роки тому +1

    But what if that kind of preaching actually saves the deceived "believer"?
    Make our calling n election sure after all right?

    • @devinl7702
      @devinl7702 3 роки тому +1

      Hi, I cannot answer this question, but here's what I noticed: This is exactly what was talked about in the video, a what if question. OCD tends to bring up these what if questions, and then deceive your emotions to lean towards the negative. I'm not saying these preachings are false, but let me raise a question for you. What if they don't?

    • @jcjamlig
      @jcjamlig 3 роки тому

      @@devinl7702 pardon me, can you clarify that? What if they don't what?

    • @devinl7702
      @devinl7702 3 роки тому +2

      @@jcjamlig sorry for the confusion, I meant to say "what if they don't save the deceived believer?" Now I do understand that this question sounds mean and that I might be wrong, but how can we have total certainty in the validity of your "what if" question? The point is, when there comes a doubt, which is what OCD's known for, it's easy for our faulty mindsets to lean towards the fearful side of things, in this case a "maybe they DO save the deceived believers and I should listen to them no matter how harsh!". I heard this somewhere, "doubt your doubts", maybe this would help us. Blessings

    • @devinl7702
      @devinl7702 3 роки тому +2

      Actually, I apologise, my OCD is flaring up, I felt mean doubting their capability to save people. Though, regarding OCD doubts, I would still stand by the advice.