All I’m gonna say is that I just bought Stalker II HoC, a pack of beers, and a pizza and all of that comes up cheaper than this plane. The choice is quite difficult
@@shadowrxmpxge8905 well actually i dont play war thunder lol i watch these videos only for educational purposes (for other sims like il-2,dcs etc.) and also for the memes.... also that comment i posted was just sarcasm and youre just dumb you didnt get it
@@maukku1572some people just wanna pick up a plane and fly it without learning about all the bells and whistles, so what may be fun to you may not be to everyone else. That being said, the war thunder viggen being priced at 80 USD is pure unadulterated lunacy.
@@yowaddup5649 well that's understandable of course but paying 80 bucks to be a free kill doesn't sound like fun gameplay even though it comes with the benefit that you don't have to spend 30 hours reading a manual to take off.
Everyone arguing if the VIggen or the F4F is the worst 13.0 fox 3 slinger Meanwhile the FA2 Sea Harrier is sat in the corner crying with a gun in its mouth (the gun is a Fakour 90)
6:10 Lowkey why I don't dogfight in the 37 at all (aside from skill issue). You probably have more yaw control driving down an icy bridge at 90mph with flat tires than you do flying the viggen sometimes
@ At least the JA37C at its br can easily work around it by climbing and using aim7e’s, Just avoid F-5s and Mig23s, which is like 80% the other team. But that’s at 11.3. Idk about 13.0, but I don’t think flying the JA37 as an interceptor works there anymore.
Mig-21bis in the tree is also affected bad, input the tiniest bit of elevator while you roll and it's almost sideways, so most of your rank 7 experience will be playing with drift mobiles.
Idk onto what are you guys but I absolutely love everything about the Viggen. I love how it acts in a Dogfight, the missiles(TT version) and the guns are Fn shredders just one tapping everything. One of my fav planes in game 👍
I was just about to say that, its a real feat to compare a premium to the F4F ICE of all aircraft, which is already one of the worst performing fox 3 slingers
Honestly, if you haven’t even tried the Viggen, you shouldn’t be talking about it. The JA-37DI completely destroys the F-4 in every meaningful way, maneuverability, energy retention, and just overall performance. Defyn is just talking out of his ass, like usual. If you’re gonna throw out opinions without even giving the plane a proper go, at least grind Sweden and try it for yourself. The Viggen’s canards give it insane agility that the Phantom just can’t match. Stop regurgitating what some random UA-camr says and actually test the damn thing. Trust me, you’ll see how much better it really is!
@@Murre__435Viggen has good instant maneuverability but I can’t keep it up and the thrust to weight doesn’t support for examples crucial stall shots also the radar and rwr are severely subpar for its br probably the worst even compared to Russian stuff I’m saying this as a Sweden main
The Viggen should have around the same power to weight ratio as the Gripen (empty weight), but to me it feels like the engine just stops working when you go below like 4-500 km/h, maybe that't just the speed bleed with higher AOA. It does feel a bit excessive compared to how it used to be.
Look I love this thing, but what annoys me the most on it is simply how stupidly expensive it is. Sure its a Rank 8 vehicle, but 50K per Tier IV modification is just ridiculous.
Even though this plane is a terrible idea I still think a newer player will have more success with Fox 3s than learning how fly the J35XS with all of it's disadvantages. This is coming from someone with 500+ games and a positive K/D in the J35XS. I think the J35 will make you a better player but this Viggen with Fox 3s might be easier for kills even though they will be pretty useless with no missiles.
That's why I picked it up. I have the j35xs and it's just an awful experience getting slaughtered by planes I have no right fighting. I made it to the mig 21 hoping it would be nice but r60mks are absolutely useless and the grind came to a screeching halt for months. I would rather have a shit plane with competative armament any day over good flight model with shit missiles
For a plane this bad, it's actually insane how many of them I have seen already. And the fact that people fucking preordered this thing is a testament to why Gaijin can do shit like this.
For the gun i recomend the saphe belt since it has slightly more consistant damage while the fuze is still sensitive enough to always explode upon a hit
To be fair, I don't think anyone would expect this plane to be competitive without being at a stupidly low br for its kit. Most people who wanted it (myself) just wanted it because we love the viggen
Irl the JA-37D had datalink, an updated ps-46/a radar (more range) and id assume access to RB-74(m) as well. I wish gaijin would buff the viggen flight model too
@@yunjinbai4640 The viggen uses an Oerlikon KCA 30×173 mm cannon, not the ADEN 30×111mm like previous swedish jets. 30x173 is the same round used by the GAU8
@@jayp.8360 Compare the rounds specifically. Do the HE rounds have the same stats? If yes then the answer is Gaijin. If no then it is a combination of Gaijin and stats.
@@jayp.8360 Still not the same round. The Viggen uses the the Mingranat M/75, which has 42g of Hexal (71.4g TNTe), the A-10 uses the PGU-13/B which has 58g of RDX (92.8g TNTe). There is also the difference the A-10 shoots like several times faster. Even the A-10 can do kinda low damage at times for small amount of hits, but it more than makes up with firerate.
Calling the JA-37DI a joke? Sounds like you’re just mad people are enjoying a solid premium. The Viggen outperforms outdated planes like the Phantom and ICE, and if you think it’s a joke, you clearly haven’t tried it. Stop whining and give it a shot, maybe then you’ll understand why it’s worth it.
I'm just glad they added it as a new plane instead of changing the missiles and BRs of the current Viggens, so we can still enjoy them at BRs where their FM are not completely outmatched.
I couldn't imagine a top tier plane worse than the ICE or the Tornado but here it is... Thank you Gaijin now I won't feel so bad when playing the Phantom.
Seriously? Comparing the JA-37DI to the ICE and Tornado? That’s straight up embarrassing. The Viggen eats the F-4 Phantom for breakfast. Maybe if you actually played the Viggen instead of parroting Defyn’s nonsense, you’d realize how much better it is. The Phantom is ancient, and the ICE and Tornado? They’re both outdated and sluggish compared to the JA-37DI. Stop acting like the Phantom is somehow 'better" just because you're too lazy to grind a real top-tier plane. The Viggen’s agility, radar, and weaponry leave those planes in the dust.UP, grind Sweden, and stop crying about it!
@@Murre__435 you mustve pre ordered the vig the way youre inhaling copium, the viggens are all absolute boats and the only good thing about them are the DFs for free head on kills
@@williewalrus Funny, I’ve already put that "theory" to the test, and the Viggen comes out on top. If you’re getting slammed by a Phantom, maybe you’re not using the Viggen’s agility and energy retention properly. The Phantom’s a brick in comparison when it comes to maneuverability. Stop underestimating the Viggen!!!😂
6:29 The air belt on Akan is dogshit for a while, the best belt for it is the ground belt since it's full of SAPHEI, it has slightly less explosive mass, but it's way more effective(since it can explode inside the plane and not outside) and it never overpen (you can even test it again BF 109 A and other wood planes the ammo usually explodes)
This is true, the SAPHEI belt also has good fragment generation, unlike HE, and is generally MUCH better, and always been much better since the Viggen is in the game, However, it really doesnt offset the dogshit airframe.
8:45 I laughed my ass off, i audibly went "oh SHIT" when I saw that mfs nose go straight up, and hearing the "I saw my entire life flash before my eyes" set me off
In my experience with it so far, the missiles are good enough if your positioning is good enough. You still get rinsed by everything with a competent flight model I wish the Viggen fm wasn’t complete horseshit though. I love the plane
Fun fact about top tier air. If you don't immediately approach, then you can pretty much win the game by taking down everyone. More EXP and SL for you. Keep in mind it requires skill AND awareness to win post game start(aka missile bonanza)
I am curious about something: If the dutch refer to everything slightly higher than their surroundings as "mountains", what exactly is their term for what we commonly call "valleys"?
Sounds like you’ve got some skill issues, honestly. The JA-37DI is a solid plane with great potential, but if you're struggling, maybe it's time to work on your game instead of blaming the jet?!!
How would you rate the J8F vs this and F4F ICE in the competition of outdated planes with fox 3? I just finished researching the taiwan f16 and I'm going for J10 asap but I'm kind of excited to get the J8F afterwards.
The missiles doesnt have range, only if you go mach 1.6, you can get the same range as aim-120 fired at mach 1.2. In 12.0 downtiers it can be fun, but top tier still exists 50% of the matches
Post Stall Maneuver "PSM" and in conjunction with HMS and a TVC missile is the reason why supermaneuverability exists and WvR missile dogfights are deadly. You're lucky.
1. Tvc missiles dont like being shot at stall speeds in wt they just spin out 2. Su34 doesnt have HMS PSM in a fight is hardly ever a valid tactic and just gets you killed
Some of that just looks like not getting used-to having to keep your left fingers on your rudder keys. A couple of times you missed a chance at a shot because you were holding your full up-elevator, and swinging your mouse around, letting your rudder go wild.
Yeah I get it but it's still a massive drawback when the rest of the plane is so bad you probably will only get one shot Having to take the one shot you get with a slippery ass is extremely asinine
I still can't believe they went through all this bullshit of adding another tech tree version and an $80 premium, when they literally could've just added Rb 99s to the JA 37D and called it a day. The plane was fucking designed to carry them, and the DI variant was just an international modification with other slight differences and language changes in the cockpit, nothing to do with missile integration. This is peak Gaijin, adding pointless planes for ridiculous amounts of money and/or grinding, just so they can be worse than everything else, also leaving people who already did the grinding in the dirt, because their existing plane is now even worse.
I just love the plane i buyed it because i love the viggen, i make 3-5 kills per game or 2 minimum in a lot of match, more than a half matches that i do with it. I understand that people dont like it but i like it even if the airframe is not that good i know how to use it even in dogfight with better airframes infront of me, i already beated F16 F15 F4F SU27 MIG29 in dogfight because i know how to use the airframe and delta wings at my advantage (never fighted a mirage of a grippen atm). I understand also how to read the rwr idk how but i notch missile by looking at it, maybe im used to shitty rwr. Maybe when i play im infront people that are not that good, and im not that good too most of my death are just me kissing the ground because im not putting attention in my game (talking to my mom or other things)
Honestly, I‘m having a very good time with the tech tree JA-37DI. The key is to stay low and keep the energy high at all times. Just don‘t try to dogfight.
damn, the new visual for afterburner looks so good, i had dropped this game like 3 months ago, and by the time I saw this, i just wanted to download it again
@@T29hotrod That’s your choice, but you’re seriously missing out. The Viggen and Phantom both have their strengths, and if you’re not willing to give them a shot, you’re just limiting yourself.
@@Murre__435 I'm talking about the premium versions of those planes ( they are dogshit) the JA37C is probably the best viggen to play and have fun with (my personal favorite. .
meh i wouldn’t say the viggen is in anyway worse than the ICE perhaps except the 9Ls, there’s a specific way to fly this plane and yes take ground targets belt it makes the oerlikon’s caliber size noticeable and flaps are free aoa tbh
only hope for this plane is to get buffed by gaijin so they can sell more of these, im going to try out this in sim anyway (the tech tree variant) thats the only place this can avoid all the newest planes. there was some talk about HMD tested in this plane and improved rb74's so i fucking hope they will improve this plane.
Just imagine when the MiG-21Bison, Su-39, and F-20 get their fox-3s. P2W people will be smashing their monitors at high BRs... As if the F-20 wasnt already overly high in BR.
Everyone is hating but we f-14 players still need more countermeasures unless we’re the b, all a variants of the fourth gen need more counter measures.
Based on how broken LWS's are right now for helis and probably planes, who even knows if this things RWR is correct. Right now Several helis with LWS have 4 sector laser detection yet they provided 0 evidence that they should be that way. This may as well be just as bullshit as the rest of the changes made this update.
Don't care, didn't ask. > pre-order's Viggen > hears immense backlash > receives it, and an USH bc a friend grinded it for me > grinds Swedish tech tree w/ both > *has fun* Play things safe and you'll miss everything. Fun isn't earned, its had.
Thank god Gaijin added a tech tree variant of this plane so everyone can experience it
how is this comment 1H ago and the video is posted less than 5min ago from now?
Never got to research that tree but thank god now i can experience that fucking boat.
Thank Gaijin it is in folder so people don’t have to touch that bus
@@NOOT_NOOT-_- just a timetraveler dw
@@NOOT_NOOT-_- naybe a patreon sub so he gets early access to videos
All I’m gonna say is that I just bought Stalker II HoC, a pack of beers, and a pizza and all of that comes up cheaper than this plane. The choice is quite difficult
yeah i really think you should start learning what is financial literacy
@@mashinenbratwurstgewehr-42yikes some1 angy did you buy the vigen😢 understandable 😂
@@mashinenbratwurstgewehr-42financial literacy is buying 1 million beers and tickets to see Creed, there is no other definition of the term
@@shadowrxmpxge8905 well actually i dont play war thunder lol i watch these videos only for educational purposes (for other sims like il-2,dcs etc.) and also for the memes.... also that comment i posted was just sarcasm and youre just dumb you didnt get it
@@Xiphactinus oh hell yeah that is god damn right :D
* opens video * "Is it worth- NooOOoo" - Defyn
The worst thing about this plane is that it has a 47 on it but the pilot isn't bald
And it doesn't even have a barcode
@@suzanarubi9254 Missed collaboration opportunity 😥
Baffling how the dcs viggen is cheaper
and more fun to play (but well that's quite obvious)
@@maukku1572 wish they actually added the C version and not just the strike variant
@@maukku1572some people just wanna pick up a plane and fly it without learning about all the bells and whistles, so what may be fun to you may not be to everyone else.
That being said, the war thunder viggen being priced at 80 USD is pure unadulterated lunacy.
@@yowaddup5649 well that's understandable of course but paying 80 bucks to be a free kill doesn't sound like fun gameplay even though it comes with the benefit that you don't have to spend 30 hours reading a manual to take off.
DCS viggen has some nice anti ship options.
Everyone arguing if the VIggen or the F4F is the worst 13.0 fox 3 slinger
Meanwhile the FA2 Sea Harrier is sat in the corner crying with a gun in its mouth (the gun is a Fakour 90)
Common War Thunder Britain L.
You should buy the viggen then. Defyn proved it beats every top tier plane with ease
6:10 Lowkey why I don't dogfight in the 37 at all (aside from skill issue). You probably have more yaw control driving down an icy bridge at 90mph with flat tires than you do flying the viggen sometimes
For real! I can live with the speed bleed and no power, but it drives me nuts watching the nose pretend to be a pendulum
@ At least the JA37C at its br can easily work around it by climbing and using aim7e’s, Just avoid F-5s and Mig23s, which is like 80% the other team.
But that’s at 11.3. Idk about 13.0, but I don’t think flying the JA37 as an interceptor works there anymore.
Mig-21bis in the tree is also affected bad, input the tiniest bit of elevator while you roll and it's almost sideways, so most of your rank 7 experience will be playing with drift mobiles.
Idk onto what are you guys but I absolutely love everything about the Viggen. I love how it acts in a Dogfight, the missiles(TT version) and the guns are Fn shredders just one tapping everything. One of my fav planes in game 👍
I'm not sure of the technical validity but, I was told a hill is formed via erosive processes and a mountain is formed via tectonic activity.
The short answer is no, the long answer is nooooooooooooooo... thins is how this video should have been fr
Damn it must really be a shitty plane if it’s worse than a Phantom with a internal combustion engine
😭
I was just about to say that, its a real feat to compare a premium to the F4F ICE of all aircraft, which is already one of the worst performing fox 3 slingers
Honestly, if you haven’t even tried the Viggen, you shouldn’t be talking about it. The JA-37DI completely destroys the F-4 in every meaningful way, maneuverability, energy retention, and just overall performance. Defyn is just talking out of his ass, like usual. If you’re gonna throw out opinions without even giving the plane a proper go, at least grind Sweden and try it for yourself. The Viggen’s canards give it insane agility that the Phantom just can’t match. Stop regurgitating what some random UA-camr says and actually test the damn thing. Trust me, you’ll see how much better it really is!
@@Murre__435Viggen has good instant maneuverability but I can’t keep it up and the thrust to weight doesn’t support for examples crucial stall shots also the radar and rwr are severely subpar for its br probably the worst even compared to Russian stuff I’m saying this as a Sweden main
Old fm yes it won
New fm, no it doesn't
I did test it, feel free to prove me wrong
Secretly, they added this to make tye F-4F ICE look good...
🤣 German air mains still suffering.
The Viggen should have around the same power to weight ratio as the Gripen (empty weight), but to me it feels like the engine just stops working when you go below like 4-500 km/h, maybe that't just the speed bleed with higher AOA. It does feel a bit excessive compared to how it used to be.
Look I love this thing, but what annoys me the most on it is simply how stupidly expensive it is. Sure its a Rank 8 vehicle, but 50K per Tier IV modification is just ridiculous.
Yeah it's a whole other issue
Even though this plane is a terrible idea I still think a newer player will have more success with Fox 3s than learning how fly the J35XS with all of it's disadvantages. This is coming from someone with 500+ games and a positive K/D in the J35XS. I think the J35 will make you a better player but this Viggen with Fox 3s might be easier for kills even though they will be pretty useless with no missiles.
Yeah fair but 80 bucks for a tree with barely anything thats worth it? Hell no
@@DEFYN maybe pick it up someday during a sale or smth
40 bucks is still a lot of money for a bad vehicle with not much to grind in the tree
80$ ? That's enough to get the 2s38 and the Ka-50.
Russian starter pack.
That's why I picked it up. I have the j35xs and it's just an awful experience getting slaughtered by planes I have no right fighting. I made it to the mig 21 hoping it would be nice but r60mks are absolutely useless and the grind came to a screeching halt for months. I would rather have a shit plane with competative armament any day over good flight model with shit missiles
For a plane this bad, it's actually insane how many of them I have seen already. And the fact that people fucking preordered this thing is a testament to why Gaijin can do shit like this.
Isn't it the only premium with Fox 3s? I'm guessing it's just a bunch of noobs who wanted to play with AMRAAMs
lol for me its just the splinter camo and that i really like the viggen but i am vl 95 with 1k hours so i kinda have an idea of what im doing in it
@@jackknibbs4895 you are part of the problem
@@King63Kobra JF-17 if you broaden the definition of "premium" to purchasable with only real money
Yeah and then they complain about premium vehicle prices lol. Apparently not high enough yet!
For the gun i recomend the saphe belt since it has slightly more consistant damage while the fuze is still sensitive enough to always explode upon a hit
To be fair, I don't think anyone would expect this plane to be competitive without being at a stupidly low br for its kit. Most people who wanted it (myself) just wanted it because we love the viggen
Really simple, just add the actual fighter version
10:46 Ah yes, the mighty protuberance! Truly a titan of topography right there.
I beat a Viggen in my Tornado Gr.4 earlier, can confirm it is in fact a worse dogfighter than the Tornado
funny thing about the viggen is that the engine is literally a 737 engine (the smaller old one) with an afterburner slapped on the back
5:07 - NOOOOOO IT'S A MOUNTAIN!!!
It isn't a Defyn video without a mountain, unsub 🤬
Irl the JA-37D had datalink, an updated ps-46/a radar (more range) and id assume access to RB-74(m) as well. I wish gaijin would buff the viggen flight model too
rb-74(m) is made up, sweden went from aim-9L to iris-t, but all things that can use 9L can use 9M as well
Even the JA-37C had datalink.
Bug report it
Gaijin destroy the Player Status card! 😢
0:32 ahhhhh sh*t here we go again 😂😂😂
Don't understand how a gun firing the same round as the A10 does so little damage
It does not fire the same round as a10
@@yunjinbai4640 The viggen uses an Oerlikon KCA 30×173 mm cannon, not the ADEN 30×111mm like previous swedish jets. 30x173 is the same round used by the GAU8
@@jayp.8360 Compare the rounds specifically. Do the HE rounds have the same stats? If yes then the answer is Gaijin. If no then it is a combination of Gaijin and stats.
@@jayp.8360 Still not the same round. The Viggen uses the the Mingranat M/75, which has 42g of Hexal (71.4g TNTe), the A-10 uses the PGU-13/B which has 58g of RDX (92.8g TNTe).
There is also the difference the A-10 shoots like several times faster. Even the A-10 can do kinda low damage at times for small amount of hits, but it more than makes up with firerate.
Well A-10 does surprisingly little damage in my experience, so that's pretty understandable actually
even after 2 patches when its 40 on sale it still wont be worth it ngl
Wow, gaijin's plane finally costs more than the most expensive dcs plane. I've said that 5 years ago as a bad joke, but here we are
This plane is already a joke but the fact that some people decided to pay 80€ for it is beyond crazy
Calling the JA-37DI a joke? Sounds like you’re just mad people are enjoying a solid premium. The Viggen outperforms outdated planes like the Phantom and ICE, and if you think it’s a joke, you clearly haven’t tried it. Stop whining and give it a shot, maybe then you’ll understand why it’s worth it.
@@Murre__435Pure copium
i miss when bait was believable
Solid premium, solid free kill for me. Thanks for buying it. See you in game going back to hangar o7@@Murre__435
This plane should handle better that it does!
5:01 HE CANT KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH ITTTTT!!!!!!
I'm just glad they added it as a new plane instead of changing the missiles and BRs of the current Viggens, so we can still enjoy them at BRs where their FM are not completely outmatched.
FINALLY someone actually saying viggen turns like ass
I'm so tired about people saying viggen turns good and has great engine performance
Thanks defyn for being unhinged and calling this shitboat out
I couldn't imagine a top tier plane worse than the ICE or the Tornado but here it is...
Thank you Gaijin now I won't feel so bad when playing the Phantom.
Seriously? Comparing the JA-37DI to the ICE and Tornado? That’s straight up embarrassing. The Viggen eats the F-4 Phantom for breakfast. Maybe if you actually played the Viggen instead of parroting Defyn’s nonsense, you’d realize how much better it is. The Phantom is ancient, and the ICE and Tornado? They’re both outdated and sluggish compared to the JA-37DI. Stop acting like the Phantom is somehow 'better" just because you're too lazy to grind a real top-tier plane. The Viggen’s agility, radar, and weaponry leave those planes in the dust.UP, grind Sweden, and stop crying about it!
@@Murre__435hey buddy u wanna put ur silly little theory to the test aha :))) I think when u get slammed by a phantom ur opinion might change :))
@@Murre__435 you mustve pre ordered the vig the way youre inhaling copium, the viggens are all absolute boats and the only good thing about them are the DFs for free head on kills
@@williewalrus Funny, I’ve already put that "theory" to the test, and the Viggen comes out on top. If you’re getting slammed by a Phantom, maybe you’re not using the Viggen’s agility and energy retention properly. The Phantom’s a brick in comparison when it comes to maneuverability. Stop underestimating the Viggen!!!😂
Idk how many comments bro is gonna be coping under lol
5:04 we ain’t backin down 😭 they’re all mountains 🙏
The cobra into a crash 🤣🤣
6:29 The air belt on Akan is dogshit for a while, the best belt for it is the ground belt since it's full of SAPHEI, it has slightly less explosive mass, but it's way more effective(since it can explode inside the plane and not outside) and it never overpen (you can even test it again BF 109 A and other wood planes the ammo usually explodes)
Il try it when i never fly it again
This is true, the SAPHEI belt also has good fragment generation, unlike HE, and is generally MUCH better, and always been much better since the Viggen is in the game, However, it really doesnt offset the dogshit airframe.
So glad Germany’s top tier jet is used as a metric for how awful something is.
Top tier is 13.7 though. Germany has no top tier plane.
@ the MiG-29G and F-4F ICE are both tier 8 which is currently the highest tier in the game. 13.7 would be top BR.
@@fboyg91 Top rank? Sure. Top tier? Nope. Top tier = highest BR available.
@@bananomet4052 oh, you right. I’m big retardo 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@ lmao you right you right. I’m big dumb.
8:45 I laughed my ass off, i audibly went "oh SHIT" when I saw that mfs nose go straight up, and hearing the "I saw my entire life flash before my eyes" set me off
In my experience with it so far, the missiles are good enough if your positioning is good enough. You still get rinsed by everything with a competent flight model
I wish the Viggen fm wasn’t complete horseshit though. I love the plane
Use ground belts! The SAPHEI absolutely slaps everything it hits out of the sky in a hit or two
No idea why snail has nerfed flight model on this thing
Ground targets belt actually does decent damage since it has saphe with 0.1mm fuze sensitivity.
For dutch people it's a mountain, for everyone else it's a hill.
3:30 dirty snapshot on the second guy👌, some say if you listen close enough a faint scream can be heard as they whip by😂😂
The Viggens were good when they were given a speed boost, dont know about since then
5:00 THIS GUY!
(I actually really enjoy the Dutch mountain bit❤)
Imagine Gaijin removing team killing
Fun fact about top tier air. If you don't immediately approach, then you can pretty much win the game by taking down everyone. More EXP and SL for you. Keep in mind it requires skill AND awareness to win post game start(aka missile bonanza)
gaijin casually testing their limits
11:35 bro thought it was Top Gun
I am curious about something: If the dutch refer to everything slightly higher than their surroundings as "mountains", what exactly is their term for what we commonly call "valleys"?
And about the king of Dogfigths at 9.0?? CL-13B-MK6???
Yeah CL-13B
what about it
I just unlocked the techtree JA37DI and can agree not worth the pain.
Sounds like you’ve got some skill issues, honestly. The JA-37DI is a solid plane with great potential, but if you're struggling, maybe it's time to work on your game instead of blaming the jet?!!
Bros coping hard in everyone else’s comments
Straight to the point Defyn, I lov u
The Viggen in DCS costs $45 💀
Its 29.99 USD right now due to fall sales
Awesome video
Can you do one on the f4 ej awdt(if i spelt it right)
And what is the best way to use fakuor 90 missile
Thanks for the hard work mate❤
the panick with the Su-34 cobra is too good
How would you rate the J8F vs this and F4F ICE in the competition of outdated planes with fox 3? I just finished researching the taiwan f16 and I'm going for J10 asap but I'm kind of excited to get the J8F afterwards.
The missiles doesnt have range, only if you go mach 1.6, you can get the same range as aim-120 fired at mach 1.2. In 12.0 downtiers it can be fun, but top tier still exists 50% of the matches
He can't keep getting away with the mountain of crimes.
Post Stall Maneuver "PSM" and in conjunction with HMS and a TVC missile is the reason why supermaneuverability exists and WvR missile dogfights are deadly. You're lucky.
1. Tvc missiles dont like being shot at stall speeds in wt they just spin out
2. Su34 doesnt have HMS
PSM in a fight is hardly ever a valid tactic and just gets you killed
Finally. Let's get my purchase degraded hard by War Thunders Plen Daddy, UwU
im pissing myself from the cobra maneuver, lmao the entire vid thank you
It's such a shame they can't get the flight model right. Anyone who's played DCS knows how stupidly fast the Viggen should be.
They dont have the thrust curves modeled right
Damn they making the tornado f3late/f4f Ice look usable
try using the SAPHEI rounds instead of the HE rounds for some reason they shred planes
Glad its there for test drive
It’s ok bro just call it a mountain
Some of that just looks like not getting used-to having to keep your left fingers on your rudder keys. A couple of times you missed a chance at a shot because you were holding your full up-elevator, and swinging your mouse around, letting your rudder go wild.
You know that when you hold your keyboard keys it doesnt listen to the mouse anymore?
@ yes, and the second you let go, the mouse takes back over. All I’m saying the the viggen has a slippery butt and needs extra attention
Yeah I get it but it's still a massive drawback when the rest of the plane is so bad you probably will only get one shot
Having to take the one shot you get with a slippery ass is extremely asinine
@ o7
A hard-ask flying that busted FM
@ oh, and cheers for not being a POS in the comments like Seek. That guy suuuuucks.
I still can't believe they went through all this bullshit of adding another tech tree version and an $80 premium, when they literally could've just added Rb 99s to the JA 37D and called it a day. The plane was fucking designed to carry them, and the DI variant was just an international modification with other slight differences and language changes in the cockpit, nothing to do with missile integration.
This is peak Gaijin, adding pointless planes for ridiculous amounts of money and/or grinding, just so they can be worse than everything else, also leaving people who already did the grinding in the dirt, because their existing plane is now even worse.
I just love the plane i buyed it because i love the viggen, i make 3-5 kills per game or 2 minimum in a lot of match, more than a half matches that i do with it. I understand that people dont like it but i like it even if the airframe is not that good i know how to use it even in dogfight with better airframes infront of me, i already beated F16 F15 F4F SU27 MIG29 in dogfight because i know how to use the airframe and delta wings at my advantage (never fighted a mirage of a grippen atm). I understand also how to read the rwr idk how but i notch missile by looking at it, maybe im used to shitty rwr. Maybe when i play im infront people that are not that good, and im not that good too most of my death are just me kissing the ground because im not putting attention in my game (talking to my mom or other things)
best first 35 seconds of a defyn video ever.
11:42 that sound :D
Thank goe Gajin added a tech tree variant of this, not like the shit they did with F-20.........
"The short answer is no and the long answer is nooooooooooooo"
Yet again, I say it: “skill issues” “dilutional”… Defyn says the exact same thing: everyone agrees
Honestly, I‘m having a very good time with the tech tree JA-37DI. The key is to stay low and keep the energy high at all times. Just don‘t try to dogfight.
Still can't believe it costs 80 (EIGHTY! (OCHENTA! (HUNDERTACHTZIG! (ВОСЕМЬДЕСЯТ! (八十! (ثمانون!)))))) bucks...
damn, the new visual for afterburner looks so good, i had dropped this game like 3 months ago, and by the time I saw this, i just wanted to download it again
Well then
Guess my jx35 isn’t a bad thing after all
I need to stop having skill issue in that plane specifically Istg
No its not your fault, that plane is utter dogshit and hope no one uses that piece of trash.
The JA-37DI is way better, but the J-35XS is still a solid plane and gets the job done
@Murre__435 they both suck my guy and not worth any amount of cash.
@@T29hotrod That’s your choice, but you’re seriously missing out. The Viggen and Phantom both have their strengths, and if you’re not willing to give them a shot, you’re just limiting yourself.
@@Murre__435 I'm talking about the premium versions of those planes ( they are dogshit) the JA37C is probably the best viggen to play and have fun with (my personal favorite. .
meh i wouldn’t say the viggen is in anyway worse than the ICE perhaps except the 9Ls, there’s a specific way to fly this plane
and yes take ground targets belt it makes the oerlikon’s caliber size noticeable
and flaps are free aoa tbh
Mr Defyn, would you please review the Mirage 5BA?
Great content as always
Sad that they ruined the viggen so bad
if your planes fits behind it, it's a mountain
80€ is crazy for one single item amongst countless ingame items
8:48 He pulls a FAT COBRA and dies
WarThunder is becoming a pay to lose game 😂😂😂
only hope for this plane is to get buffed by gaijin so they can sell more of these, im going to try out this in sim anyway (the tech tree variant) thats the only place this can avoid all the newest planes. there was some talk about HMD tested in this plane and improved rb74's so i fucking hope they will improve this plane.
its good in sim ngl
i personally like it i consistently drop 2-3 kill games which is better than i do in the saab j35xs
3:37 is literally a viggen player think when the gun actually connects
Just imagine when the MiG-21Bison, Su-39, and F-20 get their fox-3s. P2W people will be smashing their monitors at high BRs... As if the F-20 wasnt already overly high in BR.
The ice is actually semi playable when I tried it at 13.0 got lucky with a few full downtiers into nobrain f4s players lol
Everyone is hating but we f-14 players still need more countermeasures unless we’re the b, all a variants of the fourth gen need more counter measures.
at 13.0 you don't get downtiered anymore, its literally impossible
Based on how broken LWS's are right now for helis and probably planes, who even knows if this things RWR is correct. Right now Several helis with LWS have 4 sector laser detection yet they provided 0 evidence that they should be that way. This may as well be just as bullshit as the rest of the changes made this update.
Full fidelity viggen in DCS is cheaper. Insane.
Don't care, didn't ask.
> pre-order's Viggen
> hears immense backlash
> receives it, and an USH bc a friend grinded it for me
> grinds Swedish tech tree w/ both
> *has fun*
Play things safe and you'll miss everything.
Fun isn't earned, its had.
P.s. the viggen was my very first jet, ever, on my own account.
3:32 must be why my buddy is gonna buy it but we don’t kink shame here
Could you try out the Kfir Canard and see if you want to make a video on it? I would appreciate it!
Will do for the sales