Are Catholics Christians?
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- "Are Catholics Christians?"
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The Catholic Church has existed for two thousand years, and the oldest Protestant ones just over 500. These fundamental teachings that you speak of have existed long before any Protestant reforms, and Jesus said of this Catholic Church that he built, "The gates of hell shall not prevail against it." So then how can they be wrong, and how can the altered teachings about salvation and such be right?
Does it really make sense to say that the Catholic Church, handed down from the time of Jesus and the apostles, was the one true church for 1500 years, and then suddenly it was no longer so, and its doctrines became wrong? To think that God's own Church needed human reformers to "correct" its central doctrines is quite blasphemous, if you ask me.
@JEROME BURNETT I think you need to know something about the Bible here: it was compiled _by_ the Catholic Church. The Catholic Church is not a product of the scriptures like all the Protestant ones are, but rather the Bible is a product of the Catholic Church.
Regarding popes, Peter was quite explicitly given authority by Jesus, who said, "I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on Earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on Earth will be loosed in heaven." The other disciples and apostles respected his authority, as we see in the Council at Jerusalem (Acts 15). After Peter, there have always been popes in the Catholic Church in line with the apostolic succession, even in the first century.
Ultimately though, you haven't answered my question, and you actually seem to have reinforced it. You say that the Catholic Church "fell away," but if it did this, then there was nothing in its place. This directly contradicts what Jesus said about his Church.
@JEROME BURNETT Again, you didn't answer my comment adequately.
I said that the Catholic Church is not a product of the Bible, but I also said that the Catholic Church _compiled_ this Bible, the same Bible that the Protestant churches claim to be rooted in. So the Catholic Church cannot possibly be one such "cause of division and offenses contrary to the doctrine...," as it literally added this phrase to the collection of God's Word that is the Bible, and it formed/formalized the doctrine mentioned. And it should be noted that the "Catholic Church" is not some massive, faraway institution, but it is the community of Catholic believers under the divine guidance of the One True God.
A second point that comes from this is that the Catholic Church is not a product of the catechism. First of all, this is absurd, because the first official, written catechism where Catholic doctrine could be summed up was created over a thousand years after the birth of the Church with Peter and the apostles at Pentecost. Second of all, as I said, the Catholic Church is the community of believers, guided by God through his chosen leaders (apostolic succession gives us the popes), and it is, as St. Paul says, the "mystical Body of Christ" -- NOT the sum of a set of beliefs.
Finally, I would ask you, what church, if not the Catholic Church, is then the true Church, as founded by Jesus Christ? As I said in my initial comment, it doesn't make sense to say that it is any of the Protestant ones. As for a "non-denominational" community, where does Peter's role as first pope, or the role of the Sacraments, come in? Where is God's visible presence and guidance? It truly does not make sense any other way.
Deb Keo The Catholic Church has tampered with the Bible, and doesn’t follow God’s commandments.
Deb Keo And I find it insulting that you say the Bible doesn’t come before the Catholic Church.
“In the beginning was the word, and the Word was with God, and the Word WAS God” John 1:1
“And the Word was made flesh and dwelt among us (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father) full of grace and TRUTH” John 1:14
The Word is the Bible and the Bible is the Word. The Word is was made flesh (Jesus) and he dwelt among us. How dare you say that your church is above Jesus who not only is human but is GOD? YOU PUT YOUR CHURCH ABOVE GOD?!? Yep, I thoroughly believe the Pope is the false prophet and the Roman Catholic Church is following his lies. It’s only a matter of time before we are in the tribulation and he begins to support the Anti-Christ. I will never bow to people who claim to be above God. I would rather lose my head.
@JEROME BURNETT the bible is our doctrine dude New Testament Canon is dictated by the Catholic One True Church since early 4th century. God didn't abandon his church for 1500 years until he sent you another saviour Martin Luther lol... So yeah drop the blasphemy
As a very passive Catholic, I ask you - Who would you rather have interpreting the Bible, the Church that compiled it and has been working on it for 2000 years, or a televangelist from rural America?
So, say they changed the word a couple of 1000s years ago would It make a difference to you?
You mean the church who has used the Bible to control and manipulate catholics for hundreds of years?
@@williamgullett5911 mate, all churches do to some extent.. at least the Catholic Church is always on the spotlight and has to publically apologize and show restraint every now and then.
I don't think old school (or even modern day) Puritans or Calvinists can lecture anyone on using Scripture to abuse and manipulate their communities.
"Plant the seed, brother in financial need. It's not like 100 USD will pay your rent anyway." Please..
@@davidsousalopes2391 you say all churches di to some extent. The word says idolatry to all....
@@6969smurfy true, and unless/until you eradicate religion, it will keep on happening. Churches are man-made and man-managed. People of faith should follow something for the general ideology or message, not for poorly translated words in a book or for the guidance of someone with a funny hat.. lol
Catholics believe we are saved by grace through faith. Where works enter the equation is that we are expected to not only accept the free gift of faith, which cannot be earned and is bestowed by the grace of God, but also *work* to maintain our life in that grace. We are expected to do good works in order to maintain our faith, but we do not believe that any amount of good works can *earn* saving faith.
In other words, we cooperate with the grace we are given by God for our salvation.
I studied the Bible in the Baptist Church and because of that the Catholic traditions made PERFECT sense to me as the whole truth. So. The opposite of what he said. And explains why Catholics who have studied are the ones who do NOT leave.
Don’t most leave the church cause they hate it? That’s my experience with catholic people I know
I think they leave because they don’t know it. They never dove deep into apologetics and learning WHY we believe what we do. Now, there are some who are leaving the church who are really just leave religion in general who probably “hate it” because they hate any belief system. But as for Catholics who become Protestant? I’m telling you, it’s mostly nominal Catholics who didn’t really study the faith. I’m just telling you from experience if you do the whole thing makes sense. So if you understand the whole picture of Christianity in Catholicism why would you leave that for a half truth in the Protestant Church? I’ll use the Eucharist for example. If you’ve studied and you know we have good reasons to believe Jesus comes to us to be our spiritual food in Holy Communion, and that all early Christians understood this and believed it, why in the world would you leave and go where communion is symbolic?
Deb Keo amen to that you are right
One thing that a lot of Protestants do not know about is that in 1999, the Roman Catholic Church and the Lutheran World Federation signed a joint document stating that salvation is by grace through faith. What Catholics need to realize about Protestants is that they do not believe that you get saved by saying a prayer. What Protestants need to realize about Catholics is that they do not believe you can work your way into heaven.
Isn't that generally what most catholics believe, especially in this comment section in my personal experience, works have no part of salvation.
Lie. Why do then they persist on doing mass to save a dead man in purgatory?
@@jpsatre where did you hear that? Mass is just a celebration of Jesus's sacrifice for us.
lol. youre a catholic and you dont know that? be a better catholic first rather than engage in this discussion first. haha.
@@brendonpremkumar8207 It's about time someone with reason was in the comment sections
Question:
Which one of the 200(approx) denominations of Protestants are the real Christians?
Swedenborgians. It's the Swedenborgians.
@Asaph Vapor, man, you are everywhere!
Well, on the topic, I don't believe in splitting away from my family over small (less than 10%?) disagreements. But who am I to advise you on your family issues.
By the way, before continuing, please give me one good reason for rejecting many teachings of the Church fathers, while accepting the Bible they collected and canonised.
Or the reason for the exclusion of Deuterocanonicals from the original Bible when both Jesus and gospel writers quoted from them?
Or at least the reason for projecting Sola scriptura doctrine when it's not mentioned nowhere in the scripture.
A Christian is one who accepts Gods offer of salvation and also accepts that there is only one way to do so and that is to ask for that forgiveness and to live by the example of Christ , who himself said I A M THE WAY THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE NO ONE COMES TO THE FATHER BUT BY ME .....elsehere says bygrace are ye saved NOT OF WORKS LEST ANY MAN SHOULD BOAST, which puts to bed any idea that penny indulgennces, rosary beads, mass, the confesion box, baptism as a child, money giving or anything else " earns " salvation
It's closer to 30,000 denoms.
I remember growing up Methodist and thinking even then, why does the New Testament describe only one Church and why are there now so many denominations?
It is Protestantism, not Catholicism, that is unbiblical.
Interesting, every time that you open the scriptures, you are reading from a Catholic book, even using the very same New Testament canon as decided by late 4th century Catholics, first Bishops meeting in Rome (382 ad) and then confirmed by Bishops meeting in Hippo (393 ad) and Carthage (397 ad). This list of 27 New Testament writings out of 300+ early Christian writings is not found in scripture. Inconsistently for you, you tacitly trust in their authority to have decided the NT canon - yet your reject their decision on the Old Testament canon when they said it was 46 writings (7 said not be inspired by Father Luther who had no authority 1,100 years later). Inconsistent too, these 4th c Bishops ALL believed that through their words of consecration as priests, the bread and wine transformed into the resurrected Christ.
So this raises many questions for Southern Seminary :
1. Just HOW does the Holy Spirit work, consistently or inconsistently?
And what did Christ mean when he said :
2. Christ is the head of his Church. (Col 1: 18)
3. Christ''s Church is the pillar of truth (1 Tim 3: 15)
4. Christ's Church is the bulwark of truth. (1 Tim 3: 15)
5. Christ's Church is where the manifold wisdom of God is made known. (Eph 3: 10)
6. Christ PROMISED to lead it to ALL Truth. (Jn 16: 13)
7. Christ PROMISED that he would NEVER leave it. (Mt 28: 20)
8. Christ PROMISED that the gates of hell would not prevail (it will not teach doctrinal error) ; (Mt 16: 18)
9. Do you believe Christ was undependable and a liar as he failed repeated above, especially #6 and #8 (I hope not) ?
10. Do you believe that these 4th c Bishops - ALL Catholics - were pagans? And that you are using a (their) pagan book?
This co-opting of the label “Christian” by heirs of a 16th Cent. heresy, and then the boomeranging back at the original “Christian” church with the loaded question “Are THEY Christian?” is unintentionally, and humorously, ironic
Ben Sommer Hello - If you read the scriptures- Jesus asked all his apostles- whom do you say that I am ? Peter was the first to recognize him as as Lord. If you keep reading the scriptures- Jesus told Peter when speaking to him - get behind Me satan.’ He did not give the keys to Peter to the kingdom of heaven alone/ but to ALL who believe in him and treat him as Lord. If you believe that Francis or any pope is the vicor of Christ- you’ve fallen into satans lies. Remember that God is no respector of persons- read read the scriptures- if you keep any human as a substitute or even pray to the dead -which is forbidden in the scriptures- you will be guilty of the scriptures.
Divina Eftoski hi Divina. This is off topic from my comment
David Ortiz please be charitable here. Name calling...
David Israel “cursed” “cult” “demon possessed” “getting violent”. You’re not much better in the charity department than mr Ortiz here.
@David Israel I left it at "pls be charitable" and decided to disengage, since I didn't detect an openness on your part to dialogue. But sure, I'll respond one more time.
Charity, per the catechism is: "The divine virtue by which we love God above all things for His own sake, and our neighbor as ourselves for the love of God". Its embedded in many prayers & traces clearly back to NT scripture. Caritas (latin) & Agapē (greek) are often interchangeable, and translated as "Love" and "Charity", e.g. in KJB, Douay-Rheims etc.
As to confused or diabolical or stupid priests...I'll one-up you: perhaps the majority of bishops in the west are thoroughly corrupt or cowardly. Men are often (and usually these days) wicked. But if you intend to offer that as evidence that the Church is the false one, then that's kinda an ad-hominem attack. Its also an ancient heresy (Donatism) to assert that church teaching and sacraments are invalid if not governed & performed by saints. Good luck finding any human institution that isn't rife with corruption. Many leave the catholic church because of its members' corruption, mistakenly believing that if only they can find a home with good people, then THAT'S the church God intended. This is one reason why protestant denominations proliferate: "Pastor Jim is teaching wrong, let's go start a new church"
Lastly - your violent bent...I get the passion. We ARE the Church Militant - the body of living humans struggling on earth to achieve salvation and heaven. The saints in Heaven are the Church Triumphant. So - militancy is a way of life for us earnest believers. And though there's a valid approach to worldly, physical conflict ("just war") - the true militancy we in the church are called to is a spiritual one. Mentioning in two consecutive youtube comments that you'd like to kill or punch someone out doesn't show to me that you think or act from christ-centered, righteous indignation
Ask a protestant who founded their church they will give a man's name. Ask a Catholic who founded the Catholic church they will answer Jesus, God the Son.
You are wrong. Sorry. Its not all of us. You are mentioning corrupt christian churches
Sorry you are wrong. The protestant churches you mentioned are corrupt ones false ones.
@@fdl3230 that is the problem because those "corrupt" churches you are pointing to don't think so, they can easily say that the bible is their authority and the Holy Spirit guided them. They can even say that you are wrong and they are right.
Look man. Satan is maker of all religions
Understand that
So when you say Protestant, which of the 45,000+ denominations are you speaking for?
Luther was catholic, this means that the catholic were the ones that was against the catholic church, because of the false teachings of pulgatory, praying to saints, but the catholic church wanted to burn Luther alive.
@@paulariveraa3512
Hi. How could Catholics be against Catholicism? That makes no sense.
Also, praying for the souls in Purgatory has been a doctrine since before Jesus was born. Praying to saints has been a practice since the first century in the days of the apostles.
I'm not sure how they can be false teachings when they've existed since the days of the early Christians.
colour pink Because Luther protested the corruption in the Catholic Church, so the wanted to kill him
@@lf9081
"Luther protested the corruption in the Catholic Church"
Are you making him out to be a hero? Luther taught that Moses was an idiot, that men could be polygamous, and that adulterers and murderers would enter Heaven provided they believed in Jesus. How is he the good guy in this?
"so they wanted to kill him"
And we'll just ignore the Catholics who were murdered for refusing to convert to Protestantism. Totally fair.
Liz Ferrara Have you ever read the 95 theses? Luther’s only objection was that paying money for indulgences so that St Peters basilica could be rebuilt because the original had burnt down was immoral. He had no problem with indulgences though!
www.luther.de/en/95thesen.html
Did you know Luther was a complete fruitcake? After reading Luther’s quotes in this link below you will want to puke knowing this is the father of your heretic movement! 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮
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of course we are christian, what question is this ? 🧐we pray to Jesus Christ our savior , what else could we be ?
And don't forget mother Mary yes 👍
@@axomorlora3625 true .
Naw if your praying to mary your not a christain, exodus 22 says God is a jealous God and will not share his glory with no one, he has always condemned the praying to anyone but him
@@kingslade414 Mary had a little lamb little 🐑 little 🐑
@@kingslade414 anti catholic propaganda doesn't decide who's christian or not . it never has and never will .Every follower of Christ is a christian . Zealots can speak all they want it won't alter that fact
The simple question is: do Catcholic believe that Christ died on the cross, shed His blood and was resurected to forgive our sins?
Answer: absolutely we do…
@@billmartin3561 Thanks for replying!
Its really sad that this “Christian” comment section looks just like any other. Snarky and argumentative like the world. I was hoping to reason on here but it all looks a bit too much like the rest of UA-cam.
Bro, there was a Church before most of the New Testament books were even written, so how could the Scriptures have the final say on what's Christian when it was the Church itself that decided which books to include (and exclude) from the New Testament?
I was raised Catholic. As far as I'm concerned if someone truly believes in Jesus, good works will come naturally. If someone is doing good works to avoid hell fire then the good works they do don't come from the heart.
Que yo sepa, cualquier doctrina cristiana concibe el infierno. Poniéndolo en contexto, un cristiano haría cuanto sea para evitarlo.
Exactly I've been back to the Catholic Church only for about three months being raised a cradle.I wanted to help people out not because I had to because it was a holy spirit working inside me.about a week ago I wasn't even praying but I was just thinking I would like to help somebody out and I turn into the church parking lot and what do I see. I see an elderly woman standing there with a flat tire with aJack in her hand I pulled up and said you need help and she said I was praying for somebody to come by. I truly believe that God put her there for a reason and now I called and wanted to help out at a food pantry run by the church. this normally isn't me but I know and I want to help out again not because I have to but because I want to. The holy Spirit has been guiding me my entire life but I decided recently just to sit and listen to him. He puts people and situations in your path for a reason
Key point, “ as far as I’m concerned”. God does not respect what you think rather he has given us his written word, the mind of Christ found in the Bible. The Bible is authoritative, not man or any human institution.
You can't get to heaven just by good works Alone. You gottah be in the Word daily. You must be saved Jhon 3 16
Of course you have to do good works by heart not forced. Some say they truly believe in jesus and yet dont even read the bible or pray or don't even go to church for years.
I’m a Christian today, not in spite of the Catholic Church’s teaching, but rather BECAUSE of the Catholic Church’s teaching. I love Jesus and I love His Church!
lervin78 Awesome! Keep at it!
Amen!!
Is salvation by grace alone through faith alone?
@@jaredhall5886, yes by grace alone, but not by faith alone.
@@lervin78 that’s not what the Bible says..
You guys are aware of the fact the the Bible was put together by the Church in the first place, right?
Nah they think king James did it
You are aware of the fact that today's Catholic Church has to do very little with what happened back there right?
You’re all wrong, the Bible consists of books from the Torah (Old Testament) and the teachings of Jesus Christ are all in the New Testament. All of these books had been found which are known as the Dead Sea Scrolls.
The catholic church is just another false church leading lazy people too lazy to actually read the Bible so they decide to follow a pagan pope who wears the hat that the god Dagon wore.
@@MenacingRabbit This is wrong on so many levels i don't know where to start. The fact that the early councils decided which texts would be part of the Canon is well established. Just read the research. Concerning the Dead Sea scrolls you can actually read a lot of them on line. You will find a a lot of fragments from the Old testament and other Jewish material, but no mention of Jesus. Kind of necessary if you want to talk about Jesus, don't you think? . There is a lot of research on that, done by serious scholars, not internet punks sitting in their moms basement, look it up.
@@laurentdrozin812 call me what you want but Jesus the name isn’t mentioned, His name is Yeshua. His name is mentioned plenty of times and no pagan, idol worshiping catholic has the ability to take biblical books out and call them non canonical. You cannot take or add from biblical scripture, if you’re going to question 1 book in all the books found in the Dead Sea scrolls then you’re placing the integrity of all their other books as well.
Typical catholic picking and choosing what to follow in the Bible.
Sunday isn’t even the sabbath, the Roman Catholic Church changed it.
The issue is protestants came into being until the 15th Century, so there was no "valid church" for about 14 centuries?
Nope. The Catholic Church was in the beginning suitable. The institutionalization of the Roman Catholic Church created a corrupt church.
@@bendover4668 The Catholic Church was not known as the Roman Catholic Church in the very beginning. It was not known as the RCC until King Henry VIII called it the Roman Catholic Church. He was angry that the Pope would not let him divorce his wife and marry another woman. So, he called it ROMAN Catholic. He meant it as a derogatory term. Sadly, the name stuck. Also since you say that the RCC created a corrupt Church, you are calling Jesus a liar. He promised that Hell would not prevail, and Hell has not prevailed. It really makes no sense to look at the sinners in any Church, to focus on what sinful man has done or not done. Without JESUS, no Church is any good. Every Church is full of sinners. The Catholic Church is no exception. When Jesus is taken out of the equation, no Church is any good. When do you claim the RCC got its start? What Year? Just remember that the Catholic Church, the one many call the RCC was not called the RCC. It was not known as the RCC until King Henry VIII called it the Roman Catholic Church. I have heard some claim that Constantine affected Christianity, that he corrupted Christianity. To say that is to demean Jesus. He did promise that Hell would not prevail . And Hell has not prevailed. Choosing to focus ONLY on sinners makes no sense. I choose to focus ON JESUS. IF you are out to look for evil, you will find it. Every earthly Church is corrupt because it is run by man. Yet, JESUS IS the Church. He is the Head of the Body of Christ. He is all that matters. I choose to not focus on sinful man, because Without Jesus, every Church is corrupt. HE makes the Church great. Something to really think about.
Because there were no other churches xdddd
@@bendover4668 It's just the Catholic Church. There are over 20 rites. "Roman" (actually "Latin" is the correct title) is the Church of the West and happens to be the largest. But all 20+ are in communion with each other.
@@bendover4668 there is no "roman" catholic church. It is just the catholic church which is made up of 2r diferente churches..the roman le latin portion is only one branch..you hace eastern catholic like byzantines, green catholic melkite, maronites, or iraquí chaldean churches
I actually believe Catholics (converts in particular) are the most passionate Christians on the face of the earth.
Indeed. Even better, we love another with people on the inside. I believe my heart that Jesus really did established the one, true, holy, & apostolic Catholic Church. With no doubt, for some reason. You should learn more about it by going in a website called Catholic Answers.
Yes we Love God and tbh I dont understand the arguing what matters is Loving God ❤
Catholics aren’t Christians, the Bible is clear about baptism.
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@@MenacingRabbit I love this argument. It shows the ignorance of a Protestant. The Catholic Church Baptises and he is saying that we are not Christian because we Baptise. Can I please get a well thought out argument on why we aren't Christian vs. garbage like this?
Let me ask this question: are Protestants Christian? Is someone who believes in faith alone biblical? As a Catholic I know what the Church teaches in this regard. And there are PLENTY of protestants sitting in the pews of their church every week who never read their bible and know next to nothing of the bible and Church history, it isn't just Catholics. I don't need him telling me if I'm Christian or not.
Catholics don’t read the bible. The Church interpret the bible for you.
@@edalbanese6310 says who? We can read the Bible all we want.
@@nonya7954 thats not the point. Catholics rely on the church to interpret it for you. The Bible clearly says we have the spirit for interpretation. Of course you will disagree!!
@@edalbanese6310 Given the "interpretations" of the Bible by the JWs, Mormons, Branch Dividians, and on and on don't you think there's a reason why Matthew 16:18 doesn't say "Everyone who's heard my teachings go out and spread them according to your own interpretation. I offer no command structure post resurrection." Jesus created a single Church on earth with a single leader for a reason.
@@jimohara4796 where? Show me in the bible? Human tradition is not truth. Yes great arguments with using Mormons etc
The authors of this video are very ignorant. I’m asking them to engage with me in a debate on the legitimacy of Catholicism. Will you respond or will you hide?…
They will hide. Cowards
there are many variants of the catholics. what sect do you belong to? plus matt 16:18, read it in greek. no one is hiding.
@@DUZCO10you calling people cowards will not take you far. have engaged with many catholics snd hate seems to be a common element. how about love as Jeseus showed?
@edalbanese6310 read my comment again. There is no hate. I'm stating what they'll likely do: hide and they are cowards for it. Nothing more nothing less.
Hate is what you read into my comment
@edalbanese6310 as for love, I love Him and His holy Catholic and apostolic church. The same one where the remains of the apostles rest because for the first 1,000 of Christianity EVERYONE was Catholic
This is laughable. I can point to many people in every century since 33 AD that were Catholic. They believed in regenerative baptism, the Real Presence of Christ in the Eucharist, a hierarchical Church with the bishop of Rome as the head. When I was a Baptist I couldn’t find anyone that resembled my beliefs until the 16th century. The Bible is a Catholic book. We canonized it in the Councils of Rome, Carthage and Hippo. I don’t need anyone in this world to tell me that I’m a Christian.
Why isn't Jesus starting the catholic church in the Bible. Jesus is not a catholic. He is a Jew. He is King of the Jews.
Jesus didn't start the catholic church. That is a lie straight from hell. Satan started the catholic church, with a lie. Satan supports the catholic with lies. There is no truth in the devil. There is no truth in the catholic church. satan runs the show.
Jesus died once for your sins. Stop doubting and believe
You are catholic. Catholics and Christians believe different things. The Christians put their Faith in Jesus. Catholics denounce Jesus. His death for the atonement of sin is not enough.
The catholic religion wants you to trust them, instead of trusting God and His Word.
Catholics are not Christians
@@Henry-eh2jk More of the Prottie nonsense that I was raised in.
@@sdboyd Why isn't Jesus starting the catholic church in the Bible?
Another proud catholic lie
@@Henry-eh2jk What an ignorant statement to make. Please do some research before you get on the internet and look like a dummy.
The elephant in the room is the fact that for 1500 years the Christian church was catholic. So according to this line of thinking there were Christian’s at the time of Jesus and then they disappeared for a while and then popped back up with Luther. Either that or their were invincibly ignorant Catholics. But why would the Holy Spirit not guide the church into true doctrine for so long? Especially to the extent this man is talking about. He’s basically saying for most of church history a majority of Christian’s were actually damned because they didn’t believe in doctrines that didn’t even exist yet like scripture alone or faith alone.
I’m not a Catholic. I’m not even sure if I’m a Protestant. I’m struggling with it but I’m not going to play bias with this. I’m going to investigate and seek the truth.
The Most Holy Catholic Church with the pontificate of the successor of the Apostle Peter is the only true Church, which was founded by Jesus Christ himself and to which the fullness of salvation has been entrusted. Anyone who knowingly and consistently rejects it rejects the visible body of Christ on earth and incurs the wrath of God with eternal damnation in the fires of hell.
Back that up with scripture. Let's pretend that you can cite your sources.
@@ewerwong3624Matthew 18:17.
Not all Christians understand that the Church established by Jesus Christ was the Catholic Church. Some are of the remarkable belief that there was no "Church" and that the early Christians all just got baptized, read the Bible, and prayed together, and were "saved."
Jesus Christ established the Catholic Church and commissioned the Apostle Peter as the person responsible for it after his Ascension. (Matthew 16:16-20). And we know Peter was recognized as such and that he fulfilled this role. (Mk 1:36; Lk 9:28,32; Acts 2:37; Acts 3:6-12; Acts 9:40; Acts 20:28; 1 Cor 15:4-8; 1 Cor 9:5; 1 Pet 5:2; . . . among a great many others.)
Why would Christ start a church specific to a region and a culture when he came to save all ? Isn't the kingdom invisible according to the word why would it be a building ?wouldn't that make it less accessible less "Freely" Given Wouldn't that create dividing lines as it has what about the orthodox schism what about all the traditions piled on over the centuries that aren't directly instructed in the word , what about new doctrine like the catechism? The bible says do not put your trust in man in multiple places , a theme isiah covers. Perhaps the church was built than in Antioch that was the first time people called themselves Christians in Acts , though I do not see any traces of extra curricular catholic practice in the book of acts ? So has man come up with the rest?
@@snowwhitethegypsy3842 Using your logic why didn't God the Father send many sons all over the world? You accept Jesus appeared in human form at one time period and place but refuse to believe Jesus established one Church with one leader over it - Petras, the rock - Peter.
All catholic lies. Straight from hell
who are you to decide if Catholics are Christians?
He can't. Bottom line: if you have repented if your sin and put your faith in Christ ALONE for salvation, then you are a Christian.
@@michaelkapp4722 that is kind of least common denominator, maybe simplistic, but true, as far as it goes. I would add that, when we come to faith in Christ, we need Baptism into His Church. Baptism of water and the Holy Spirit.
At 2:50 he says that the councils of Trent and the Lateran "contradicted the Gospels" but doesn't elaborate. Can anyone tell me what he is referring to? Thanks.
The council's of Trent and Lateran did not contradict the scriptures, but sola fide, sola scriptura, instant salvation, and once-saved-always-saved do.
Clear as mud. If I meet a Catholic or anybody else, for that matter, one question I ask is, How do you get to heaven. If they answer by saying you have to be baptized (or any other work), then I know they are not saved. I don't know why this is such a touchy issue. How are we supposed to preach the Word to the whole world if we don't preach the true Good News?
Amen
I am Catholic and can tell you, you get into heaven by believing that Jesus is the Son of God and He died for your sins.
Jesus commanded baptism and you are speaking against what Jesus commanded.
But NOT for salvation! The man on the cross next to Jesus was not baptized, but he WAS SAVED!
@@georgepierson4920 I'm guessing you are referring to John 3:5 , let me ask you something , why doesn't Jesus say baptism of water in that verse, but in all verses that pertain to water baptism they all say baptism?
We all know Protestantism just want to make short-cuts, then why did Luther didn't went to Orthodoxy when he spot some lapses of the Roman Catholic Church.
Luther spotted some lapses in the Catholic Church? He needed to look at himself first, to do as Jesus said....Before he judged others, he needed to remove the log from his own eye before he tried to remove the speck from others eyes....At least the Catholic Church didn't/doesn't call Jesus an adulterer and a fornicator. Luther did. Luther said that he was sure that Jesus had sex with the woman at the well. Luther also approved of adultery between husbands and wives. For husbands having problems in their marriages, his advise was 'There is always the maid." He said that he could fornicate 1,000 times a day and still be justified. He said that our Consciences are of the devil...he said that we should go and do just the opposite of what our consciences tell us. He also was known as being quite Anti-Semetic. At first, he was kind to the Jews. When he could not get them to convert, he came out and said that they should lose their rights....and have their homes and synagogues destroyed. He was actually praised in a book written by Heimlich Himmler of the Third Reich. HE notices lapses in the Catholic Church? Wow. He sure didn't look at himself, did he? He needed to.
@@marymac7605 Fantastic! Thanks!
@@lindahandley5267 Thanks so much! God Bless, MM!!
@@marymac7605 Keep saying the truth Sister!
@@lindahandley5267 I will!!
Clear gospel message? So clear that Protestants split into 67,000 separate churches???
huh
@@coldleo4950 its true, while Orthodox and Catholics stayed in tradition, protestants split where there are about 67,000 different ones
The terms Grace alone and Faith alone are not found in the Bible except when St. James tells us "We are not saved by Faith alone". Read James 2:24. "Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only"!
Agree. ADDITIONALLY........ Jesus LAID OUT so clearly in Matthew 25:31 to 46, Matthew 7:21 to 23 and James that WORK is Jesus NUMBER ONE requirement for the person to enter his heavenly Kingdom. As we can see and read in Matthew's chapters.....he sent ALL those who are so called FAITH-FILLED to HELL because they lacked that one thing........WORK !! Then, add what James says that........WORK without FAITH is dead, likewise, FAITH without WORK is also dead. PLUS add Jesus words or reminder to his disciples that..........They/people will know that you are MY disciples, MY Followers, MY brothers and sisters, MY real BORN-OF-GOD children by your FRUITS/BY your WORKS.. ...Jesus said these words HIMSELF, so for these people esp. the man in this video to claim that FAITH is the W, is making Jesus a Liar ! they are also SOWING DISCORD, so they will answer to Jesus when their Judgment day comes.
@Asaph Vapor Let me answer this one for you, Mr. Doinky man ( see how I sent back your OWN word to you?/) FAITH AlONE....means, Doing WORK is NOT the way to obtain that FAITH because FAITH is a GIFT FROM GOD. A person can not say..... I am going to give money to the poor in my church , so I can have the fAITH my Friends have. I want what they have, of having that solid and strong FAITH. WORK can NOT produce FAITH, otherwise that person will BOAST. HOWEVER......Since FAITH IS A GIFT from GOD given with GRACE to those of whom God gives ( because NOT everyone is given with FAITH ), so to those who are given that FAITH, he/she is EXPECTED to bear FRUITS/WORKS, otherwise, that FAITH which is given from GOD would just become a ......DEAD FAITH OR, would become a man who was given TALENTS, but buried it, thus, he did not gain any profit, so when the master came back /Jesus, he was NOT happy that he did NOT gain any from what he GAVE to the man, sort of like....YOU who has a DEAD FAITH. See? I just answered your Ephesians 2:8 to 9 in less than 10 minutes and without any effort in it. You know why?? because this is a REPEAT topic that I must have answered FOUR TIMES !!!! Debating with you is getting by the minute because you are so sloooow ans shallow in biblical understanding. YOU do NOT have ANY spiritual discernment at all, Asaph !!!! NONE !!!! More tomorrow , since it's my prayer time. i have so MUCH to THANK Jesus with, for giving me knowledge to CLEAR UP his REAL teachings from a DECEITFUL person like you.
@Asaph Vapor ...Your understanding of Ephesians which CONTRADICTS and OPPOSES to Jesus words in Matthew 25:31 to 46 shows your Ignorance of this verses. that's why you easily BELIEVED these FALSE Pastors because you have NO spiritual discernment. FAITH must bear FRUITS/GOOD WORKS , because WITHOUT that GOOD WORK, WITHOUT that gOOD WORK, your FAITH is meaningLESS and can NOT help you to enter jesus Kingdom. Says WHO???? Jesus HIMSELF. You truly are the DRAGON'S SEED with this understanding and TWISTED version of this Verses and no wonder you are LOST. NOW, you have NOTHING left since I just debunked the very core belief you had. You and the others FALSELY Relied on this single verse with a VERY VERY FALSE understanding of this verse. Look how it CONTRADICTS to jesus own words. Are you drunk when you posted this comments?????? Completely ZERO comprehension, Zero !!!
A landmark report on Tuesday found that at least 330,000 children were sexually abused by clergy and lay members of church institutions in France over the past 70 years.
I love how all these anti-Catholics assume things about the church when they’ve never been Catholic themselves and never actually gone in depth into what the church teaches and it’s history it’s hilarious
JEROME BURNETT you’re mistaken by the definition of church you’re thinking of only the earthly church in which the pope is the representative of Christ on earth there are three churches the church suffering the church triumphant and the church militant the pope is the earthly leader of the church militant and that’s it Christ is the overhead of the church and is acknowledge so by all Catholics and if not they are wrong in doing so
Not once has the Church ever said that the Pope owns the Church. Church isn’t something that can be owned
@@matthewbianco7417 Yes, please base your arguments off scripture. Jesus is the head of the church, not the pope. Where in scripture does it say that there are three churches? Where did Jesus ever even say that the position of pope was needed? Never. If Peter was indeed the first pope of the church, installed by Jesus himself, maybe he would have mentioned it in either of his books? Seems something quite important not to be missed, if it were true. But indeed it is not. All I can say is look back to scripture, and you will find truth.
Jane Dough I hope you realize those are relics and we aren’t a bunch of skull worshipers
Matthias Matthew chapter 16 verses 17-20
You do realize that there were Christians around long before Martin Luther, don't you?
Yes they where called Catholics
Such a silly response and followed by an even sillier reply;
Go back and listen around the 3 minute mark.
You both missed the point!
It’s about our relationship with God through Christ (thus the Christianity). By grace through Faith in Christ alone as the scriptures teach. All the man made denominations are but a mere balancing act between clarification or distraction.
@@propaintershr Sorry, your wrong. They were called Christians, not Roman Catholics. Christians, non-denominational Christ loving Christians, we’re meeting in house churches while Jesus was still alive and that is still true today. I’ll be praying for your brother. Much love
@@drummerhq2263 You may pray for me as I may pray for you brother but the truth of the matter is that the Catholic teachings began since Christ. We kept that tradition alive and the other Christianity that came after is man-made but I always say doesn’t matter how you believe as long as you believe.
@@drummerhq2263 Christians before Luther were Roman Catholics. Please read a history book.
This would have been so funny if it wasn't so popular. Start with false statement, say it's Catholicism and then criticise it based on that. Catholicism teaches that salvation is a free gift, but has to be willingly received. So obvious. Most sincere and logical outcome of this "by grace alone" is Kalvinism, where people are born saved or doomed, and there is nothing they could do to change it. Pure nonsence.
It's true though, idolatry runs in catholicism.
@@baraneo8195 No. You're wrong.
@@damian_ski Worshiping a statue and praying to the dead. Welp thats idolatry in near completion
@@baraneo8195 if you ever kissed a picture of your mom, she would surely be offended right? And how confused you must have been to embrace a picture. Can't you see it's silly? All Catholics know, these are pictures of our beloved mother (as Jesus made us His brothers mind you). So either you are misinformed and lost or a hipocrit of ill will.
Saints are not dead. But living, united with God. Giving us examples and intercede for us.
@@damian_ski That's a foolish first start of your argument. Wrong, mary claims herself to be a handmaiden, a vessel of God and in no way or sense does she claim to be our mother. Literally, you cannot bring up the verse. Jesus is the one and only intercessor between God and man, there is no intercession of the dead as we are all asleep and wait for the day of the Lord. 1 Timothy 2:5. You worship idols. God loves us and God Bless!
There are so many commenters seeming to take delight in pointing out that catholics are not Christian. That is not the way of Christ. True Christians should pray for their brothers and sisters to seek Jesus, not ridicule, judge, and condemn them. As the video points out, Catholics can be Christian and have salvation based on their faith in and acceptance if Jesus, even if they belong to a church that doesnt align with scripture. Many protestants who call themselves Christian show no evidence of faith in Christ and will not have a place in heaven. Which is better? Let's follow Christ's teaching and the apostles' example with converting religious men and women in the 1st century. The apostles didnt condemn but respected the people's devotion, then showed them a more excellent way to salvation through the gospel of Christ alone. That is what we should all be doing whenever and wherever we have opportunity.
You hit on the key to everything, tearing down your brothers in Christ is not Christian. You understand Christ outside of religion, God bless you, go in peace brother.
By following your suggestion ‘let’s follow Christ’, a Catholic will grow further to be like Christ, and will grow further away from a Catholic
God help us we're so misinterpreted as Catholics and all it takes is a history lesson but we're still misinterpreted...
Because most don't bother to actually study the historicity of the Church themselves and rely on the ignorance of others to tell them about Catholicism
@@PatrickInCayman true brother. But let us rely on each other for support. We have no friends in this world. But we have each other and our faith to the most holy. Let us spread a message of love as those have that came before us. There is so much hate in the world. Let us not be bitter. Let us prosper. For the path is least traveled but the finish line is eternal.
Protestant have some nerve asking if the people who give them their Bible are saved. The Bible has many Books that pretty much says faith and works will manifest themselves in each others 🙏
@Asaph Vapor Amen!...not to mention the RCC have 7 extra books that are Not Biblical!
@@lydiapetra1211 IF those 7 Books are NOT Biblical as you claim, Why were they included in the Original King James Version, and kept for 274 Years, from 1611? Those 7 books were kept from 1611-1885!! IF they were NOT Biblical, WHY would it have taken Non-Catholics 274 Years to Figure that out? Guided by the Holy Spirit, guided by God? Were they guided by the Holy Spirit, guided by God, when they decided to include them, and KEEP them from 1611-1885?? ( Non Catholics finally had them removed in 1885. ) OR, were they guided by the Holy Spirit, guided by God, when they had those books Removed in 1885 ? Which is it? One way or the other, they were NOT guided by God. Which is it?
@@lydiapetra1211 I noticed that you responded to Asaph Vapor....Did you ever notice that ALL of his comments are GONE? Many You Tube videos have DELETED his many comments, or He deleted them himself. IF he is so right....why are his comments ALL GONE? Totally gone....
@@marymac7605 because the world hates Truth!! And the world is ruled by Satan!
Let's face it the RCC is Satan's greatest Hoax! And people foolishly belied and believe and follow all the teachings of the RCC! .. which are doctrines taught by demons!!!
Truth is found in the Bible...but people are too lazy to study it instead they just believe the garbage taught by their priests who are just as lost as they are....the blind leading the blind....very sad...!!!
@@marymac7605 those 7 books are heretical....Not Biblical!
It's the RCC who has included them...and the RCC persecuted and murdered God's people who came against it....it's through the Reformation that God used to bring His Truth alive...
I am a Filipino Roman Catholic since I was a baby, and I have an older cousin who is a Protestant. I truly love my cousin because she was like my big sister whenever whe's around with me. I am thankful for God and Jesus that she is still part of my life and that she gave me happiness and a light within my heart :)
SICK OF RELIGION, ONLY JESUS CHRIST IS THE WAY THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE.
YOU CAN HAVE RELIGION BUT, DIDN'T HAVE JESUS CHRIST IN YOUR LIFE.
WHEN I'M YOUNGER I DIDN'T KNOW WHY I'M WORSHIPPING MAMA MARY, AND OTHER WOODEN SAINTS AND CONFESSION TO THE PRIEST WHERE IN FACT IT'S NOT BIBLICAL THAT'S WHY WE SHOULD EXAMINE OUR FAITH IF IT'S GENUINE OR NOT.
WE CANNOT EARN OUR SALVATION THROUGH OUR GOOD DEEDS, AND DEMAND TO GOD THAT WE SHOULD BE IN HEAVEN BECAUSE WE DO THIS SACRAMENTS, GOOD DEEDS, CHARITY ETC. IF WE DO THAT, JESUS CHRIST DIED FOR OUR INIQUITIES FOR NOTHING.
AS the word of God is written
For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Ephesians 2:8-9 KJV
@@bbm-sara1580 lol 🤣 explain to Jesus Christ
@@rebeccaanderson5626 GOD BLESS YOU. And Your Family.
THE LORD JESUS CHRIST DIED FOR US. IN ORDER THAT WE CAN'T SUFFER THE WRATH OF GOD FOR OUR SINS. HE DO IT WILLING BECAUSE HE LOVE US.
JOHN 3:16
@@rebeccaanderson5626 YOU CAN LAUGH OUT LOAD FOR THIS TIME BUT IF YOU DON'T ACCEPT JESUS CHRIST AS YOUR LORD AND SAVIOR IT'S TOO LATE THE REGRET IS ALWAYS IN THE END.
@@bbm-sara1580 Pls don't use caps Locks dears give the wrong kind of messages .
I’m not sure why this is in my recommended, since I’m a catholic 😂 The argument that Catholics aren’t Christians has always felt really silly to me, considering historically not only did Catholicism come before Protestant branches of Christianity, but Catholics have been considered Christians for over two thousand years now, seeing as the first pope was literally an apostle. It doesn’t matter to me if someone is Protestant or catholic (or orthodox, for that matter) as long as we care for others and love as well as we can.
You claim that it doesn't matter to you if someone is a Protestant or catholic ( or, orthodox). I agree with you, to a point. A person's beliefs DO matter. I do know that some Non-Catholics deny the Trinity, call it evil and pagan. That it is NOT. The majority of main stream Christians accept the Trinity. Some accept the idea of ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED, OSAS, as it is sometimes called. OSAS is right from Satan. A person's beliefs matter. I am sure that you are aware of that. I am Catholic. I often defend the faith. Not all Catholics believe the way that they should. The ones who support abortion, for example....We can't put all Catholics in one group, or all Non-Catholics in one group, saying that they are all the same. We need to look at all as individuals. We do need to care for others, love each other. Yet, again, we need to know a person's beliefs. I do know that I would not want to be in the shoes of the ones who deny the Trinity, who bad mouth the Three in One...especially on Judgement day. Just a thought.
@@marymac7605 it does matter when the trappings of tradition exceed the athority of scripture and the itching of mans ears. I am a follower of christ aand his organizational church as outlined in the book of acts and the BiBLE in general which I believe to be true, athoritative and complete for todays christian free of mans tradition .
@@howardzane572 Explain just how tradition exceeds the authority of scripture. Not all tradition is good. The Bible tells us that. Yet, the Bible does tell us to go by tradition. By tradition, I am referring to SACRED TRADITION, which are the teachings of Jesus Himself. In the very early years of Christianity, they did not have a complete Bible. The early Christians did not go by the idea of going ONLY by the Bible. The New Testament was not available for quite some time. Some of the early Christians met Jesus and heard Him preach. Some heard the gospel of Jesus from the apostles and some of the early Christians, such as Ignatius of Antioch and Polycarp. Since the Catholic Church started....they could not go by the idea of going by BIBLE ALONE. How could they? They went by the Old Testaments, parts of it.....AND by SACRED TRADITION, the words of Jesus Himself!! Jesus gave the apostles the Holy Spirit to guide them and to guide the Church. The Holy Spirit teaches the Church, guides it to this day. The Holy Spirit has guided the Church to understand things better, to understand HIM, to understand the Trinity, the Three divine persons in One God. Explain just how the Catholic Church exceeds scripture? As I explained before...ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED, or OSAS is not at all Biblical. That exceeds scripture. Many verses speak against the idea of 0SAS, prove it to be false. Also, the Trinity is Biblical. Some demean the Trinity, call it evil and pagan. That it is NOT. The Churches that act like life does not start at conception, that abortion is OK..it is not. Acting like same-sex marriages are OK....That all exceeds scripture. I believe we have conversed before. Do you only look at the Catholic Church, or, do you look at other Churches, too? I can't recall. I do know that there are Verses that some use , to speak against the Catholic Church.....many of those verses should not be used in that way. Again, please give me examples of traditions that you claim exceed scripture, and I will do my best to answer you on that. Just remember that not all Catholics understand their own faith, and may not be able to defend it, the same way that not all Non-Catholics can defend their faith. Thanks
@@marymac7605 ok lets assume that you are correct that the catholic church was here first what has hppened over the centuries that it has become the non biblical apostate church that we know today
@@howardzane572 It has NOT become the non Biblical apostate Church that....WE know today? You may believe that. I don't. Prove your points by using scripture. NO verse says that the Catholic Church is the non biblical apostate Church. For one thing, I trust in Jesus' promises. He did promise that Hell would never prevail over His Church. THAT is why I do not run the Church down the way that some do.....IF it really was here first.... ( It was)......It would not become the non biblical apostate Church. Saying that demeans Jesus, calls Him a liar. That I will never do. I trust in HIM totally. I focus more on HIM than on sinful man. Thank You
No - it’s not ‘a’ church - it’s THE church.
Its the highway to hell
As Christianity was founded by Jesus’ apostles, i.e. the catholic church, the question is: are people outside the catholic church real christians?
TL;DR: Yes, yes they are
Christianity is eternal. It is not a religion that just came up after the year 33 AD, it's always been here. As long as we know that God is eternal, then a faith in him and his existence must also be. So no, it wasn't founded by Christ's apostles. You built your case on a fallacy, but for the sake of clarification, let's go with it. The Catholic Church isn't the apostles or the only church that came from the apostles. They were the messengers to Christ's teachings, and they didn't all go to Rome. Moreover, contrary to common belief, the Catholic Church was not always around. At all. When we were first called Christians in Antioch, there was no Catholic or Orthodox Church. In fact, it was around 500 years later that there was a Catholic Church. In the year 451 AD, a council was held in Chalcedon to dispute a certain heresy that had arisen. After the council, the Egyptian and some other churches disagreed with the decision, and became the non-Chalcedonians. We later became the Orthodox Churches. The Chalcedonians, who are now the Catholics (and who the Protestants eventually came from) agreed with the decision. Moreover, Jesus clearly stated that we need Baptism to enter the Kingdom of Heaven. He never mentioned a specific type of Baptism, nor did he ever mention a Baptism into a certain sect of Christianity (as he certainly knew the Church would divide). Therefore, all Baptized are Christians, regardless of what they believe, or what Church they belong to. If you have any thoughts or arguments, please go ahead and tell me. At the end, one of us will walk away knowing more than they did.
Also sorry for the wall of text lol.
This answer does not satisfy me because I am not a Catholic nor am I a Protestant. I am a disciple of Christ and have been immersed into Christ and thus I am a Christian but I am not part of any denomination or cultural State religion.
www.desiringgod.org/articles/why-should-i-go-to-church
^^^
It really has some valid points as well as scripture such as Ephesians and Romans that state the need for being attached to such a community of believers because we are part of the body of Christ and as such we all have a role. Im just saying maybe you should consider going to church if u dont or maybe im just seeing this comment wrong cus to me it sounds like you dont attend church since you do not hv a denomination.
You should consider converting to Catholicism. Outside the Catholic Church there is no salvation.
Have you heard/read the early fathers? Can you make a comparison between your church to the 1st or 2nd century church.
Best comparison is Acts 2 congregation
@@gr8god4u is your church have bishops like the early church?
Yes, we are the first Christians!
No. Catholics are not Christians. The first Christians were Gentiles. Not catholic. Another catholic lie
@@Henry-eh2jkthat's a false belief from you lol
@@greensterhp You are the one who has been lied to. And you believe them.
Yes, Catholics are Christian, as we believe Jesus Christ is God who took on Flesh and laid down His life to atone for the Eternal punishment due our sins. The Difference between Catholic Christians and Protestants, is Catholic Christians believe we must do as Jesus Christ teaches, and not just have faith alone, as we must cooperate with God's saving grace and repent and bear fruit and forgive others and love one another and perservere to the end. Peace always in Jesus Christ our Great and Kind God and Savior, He whose Flesh is True food and Blood True drink
Did Jesus Christ taught to kiss the feet some statues (i.e. the saints?)
Did Jesus taught to pray to statues of the some saints for miracles??
@@ammonquitalig9077 Did Jesus Christ teach Faith alone and Scripture alone? No! Yet, regarding alleged "graven images", the Bible teaches Joshua prostrated himself before an image of the ark of the covenant. Peace always in Jesus Christ our Great and Kind God and Savior, He whose Flesh is True food and Blood True drink
@@ammonquitalig9077 The Bible does teach many in the early Church sought the mediation and intercession of mere human beings like Peter and Paul and their prayers and shadow and handkerchiefs for miracles, and so too even today, for not even death can separate us, as the prayers of a righteous person have Great power in its effects. You are in my prayers! Peace always in Jesus Christ our Great and Kind God and Savior, He whose Flesh is True food and Blood True drink
@@matthewbroderick8756 Jesus also never taught ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED, or OSAS. OSAS is not at all Biblical. I know that you know that. Sadly, some don't. Keep up the good work in defending the Faith.
Wow. As a Catholic, I had no idea people thought we weren't Christian. Yeah, I know a lot of things are different but we all believe in the same God so I didn't think people asked this question. This was kinda educational.
Autumn Wissenburg I would think that Catholics view born-agains as non-Christians. Catholics were kind of the original Christians and so everyone else is apostate.
Technically you're not.
@Bin Sam Ireneaus (189 A.D ) is shutting down Saph, BUT knowing him , he will find a way to TWIST and DenY this. The man has Ky-High Ego, even after he got shut down 4 times by 4 people.
You are not. Please wake up
@@seanpermann3561 It’s funny how non Catholics like to pass judgement on them, especially since The Catholic and Orthodox Churches were the only mainstream forms of Christianity for 1,500 years..
Dear Jesus, save us from the fires of hell, lead all souls to heaven, especially those in most need of thy mercy.
LOL!!!! Bryan mercy is going FULL PSYCHO AGAIN!!!!!
You are a LIAR and a DECEIVER!!!!
That includes all 100 or so of your youtube accounts
@Bin Sam
Poor psycho baby!!!!! Bryan is a LOSER!!!!
@Bin Sam
You make up people on your blogs to tell you how great you are???
LOL!!!! LOSER!!!!
Seriously!!!! LOL!!!!! LOSER!!!!
Amen
Quick answer to save four minutes: Y-E-S
We believe Jesus died for our sins and that He is the son of God
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Sincerely a Cradle Baptist/Protestant who converted to Catholicism
So you also believe that Mary was in the beginning with Jesus heping Him creating everything?
@@Stefan-X24 you misunderstand catholic theology we don't believe that
Mary to catholics is the mother of God in the sense that Jesus is God, so it makes sense, to me at least, that she is sacred but not divine
@@craveb7653
She must be devine because she is co-mediatrix with Christ. She is the one that dispenses mercy to us (not Christ) according to catholic dogma.
@@Stefan-X24 I’ve been Catholic all my life. If you provide a CCC citation, I would love to look into your argument
@@gavinbrunhofer3051
As a catholic, are you familiar with the terms "Nihil Obstat" and "Imprematur"?
A quick and easy homework assignment to follow up on what Dr. Wills says around the 21-25 second mark about being saved by faith alone. What does the book of James say about "faith alone"? I know Martin Luther wanted the book of James banned from the Bible, along with Hebrews, Jude, and Revelation. But most Christians still believe in the book of James.
@KTTGHMTJWYCBLAC If that's how Luther felt about James, then why did he call the Book of James "like straw" (meaning toilet paper for animals) and go so far as to remove James from the canonical section of his version of the Bible to a reference section in the back, along with other Books he didn't like? Google "Luther Bible" for more details. The Bible the Catholic Church assembled in the late 300s has 73 books, and Luther removed and edited Books to match his views. Be careful when you're dealing with a rabid anti-Semite like Luther who believes he can decide what should and shouldn't be in the Holy Bible that stood unedited for over a thousand years before...
@KTTGHMTJWYCBLAC you personally talk to Luther about this?
is the author of the letter of james (in the bible) a christian? he says that faith alone is not enough
You are confused about what James had taught. The Holy Spirit had inspired James to emphasize that while a believer is justified by faith alone in Christ’s finished work upon the Cross, that actual faith - to prove its reality - must be manifested via that person’s “works.” Thus faith without works is dead...completely consistent with Paul’s teaching that a believer justified by faith alone is not given a license to sin, but rather the very “new nature” of this new believer moves this person to do works of righteousness.
The Holy Spirit had very wisely used James to warn against folks who’d just “prayed the sinner’s prayer,” but then nothing changed in their lives. Such people were never actually “saved by grace through faith [alone]” (as Paul had exhaustively taught) in the first place.
True faith is enough for salvation. Works are not required...or even possible...for bringing a person salvation. Christ alone did ALL the work of true salvation.
True salvation brings forth the fruit of good works.
False salvation does not.
Thanks for pointing that out James! :-)
@@Matt-vk9sb how can you claim to have faith that in jumping from a cliff into the lake you will be fine if in the end you dont jump? It is the act of jumping that makes it faith. In like manner Jesus calls us not just to believe in him but to take up our cross and follow him. Paul said "I die daily."
@@c.s.froggis9982 was Paul dying daily to be saved or was he saved already then died daily? It’s called fruits of the Holy Spirit in Galatians 5.
“know that a person is not justified by the works of the law, but by faith in Jesus Christ. So we, too, have put our faith in Christ Jesus that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by the works of the law, because by the works of the law(works) no one will be justified.
I do not set aside the grace of God, for if righteousness could be gained through the law(works) Christ died for nothing!””
Galatians 2:16, 21 NIV
@@moerivera6659 it is all God's grace that saves us. Faith is what allows us to accept and be obedient. Faith to even be faith requires action. I do believe it requires continual acts of obedience to keep the faith. And Paul says there are some who have wandered from the faith. Jesus says that any branch that does not bear fruit is thrown in to the fire. This is why he says to abide in him. We abide in him by obeying his commands. His command is we love one another as He has loved us. Nothing Jesus Paul or Peter say would lead me to believe that salvation is simply accepting your train ticket. Peter says if he spared not the angels who fell we should therefore work out our salvation with fear and trembling. I know God who chose his sheep before the world even began is sufficient in his grace to see us to the end. He is faithful even when we are not. So in short I cannot say conclusively how salvation works. I know his sheep hear his voice. Also anyone looking to excuse open sin with a faith only rational is not of God. Even the demons acknowledge him as Lord. We must submit and make ourselves living sacrifices and all this by his grace.
@@c.s.froggis9982 then you simply don’t trust in His word which says salvation is by faith alone ( Ephesians 2:8-9) and you can’t accept that Christ’s work alone is sufficient to save you, that simple. No one is saying because salvation is by faith that’s means you have a license to sin; on the contrary (Ephesians 2:10). And actually saying that nothing Jesus said would convince you?” That’s sad man. That is calling the work of our Lord on the cross as insufficient and it is self-righteous. The Bible says our works are filthy rags to him (Isaiah 64:6).
And the verse to work out your salvation with fear and trembling (Philippians 2:12) you are using out of context. We are not to work for our salvation but to work out our salvation big difference . Salvation is by grace through faith in Jesus Christ.
Romans 10:9 - That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
Acts 4:12 - Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.
The fact is, there are saved and lost Catholics just like there are saved and lost Protestants. The problem here is questions like this do nothing to profit, only cause division among believers, which the Bible plainly teaches against.
1 Timothy 1:4 - Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: so do.
Christ couldn't care less whether you're Protestant or Catholic.
When Jesus and the Apostles stopped at Cesarea Phillipi, He asked them who people were saying He was. Then He personally asked Peter who he believed He was ("confess with thy mouth/ believe in your heart.") Peter gave a heartfelt answer without regard to what the public was saying, which is exactly what Christ wants from us all. It is irrelevant in regards to your personal salvation if Peter was the first Pope, or if he wasn't saved until the Holy Spirit came after Christ's ascension. It doesn't matter what your denomination says, what determines your eternity is who YOU say and believe He is.
The time we waste trying to prove who's wrong and who's right should be used spreading the good news of God's love through His Son instead. "Let God be true and every man a liar" Romans 3:4
So just because someone doesn’t study the scriptures for themselves but believe incorrectly, just because they are a layman and haven’t studied on their own then they get a pass?
Exactly! That’s exactly what I was thinking. He gave the most confusing and double standard answer I’ve ever heard in my life.
What's the practical difference between faith demonstrated by works and faith accompanied by works?
That is a nice question and as a protestant i see many of my brothers getting it wrong here
Faith according to the Holy Bible is not only believe, but also repentance and obedience, so, If Christ said that we must be baptized, baptism them is mandatory for the person with Faith in Him, also we are called to do good works, if you say you have faith but don't have any good works what kind of faith is that? a true one or a dead one?
So the protestant when we affirm Sola Fide (only faith), we do not throw under the bus the good works of faith, but the works of tradition, see, the Bible never say that Marry is the Queen of Heaven, so if you believe in this or not is irrelevant, but when a person tells me that i MUST believe in the 4 dogmas of Marry in order to be saved, that to me (with my protestant lens on) is works of tradition.
So in Short, Sola Fide in protestantism treats Faith like an computer folder, when you double click it, inside are repentance, obedience. and in order to achieve this without works is impossible. Many protestants hate me for saying this, but this is a biblical truth.
So when Martin Luther theorized Sola Fide, he doesn't have in mind that all works are trivial and "only faith" saves, but rather that, unbiblical rituals and practices, that are products of tradition of men, this we are free from.
@@renatusinchristo2390 Thanks Renatus. I think an important point is that the works that Paul opposes to faith are specifically works of the Hebrew law. His argument is that to be saved you don't have follow the Hebrew law, but trust in God. Doing good more generally is another question entirely; and you're right, the Bible indicates that your faith is brought to life when you do good, so that doing good is integral to having a living faith. But my question was really, Is there a practical difference between the Protestant and Catholic versions of this idea?
Utter nonsense,saying our traditions go against the bible WE COMPILED. If there wasn’t Catholicism,there wouldn’t be Christianity in any form.
Very opinionated and closed-minded of you to think that way. How many religions are there on Earth? And how many of those religions are heavily based on where you're from?
I'll give a hint. The majority of us are born into a certain kind of religion, based on country, family etc.
A hard truth for you to accept is this: Jesus Christ was a real person. Outside of that, its all different stories.
@@pumpkin9916 my religion is not based on where I live,as it is Middle Eastern and I am not. Neither is it dependent on my family as I am in the process of converting in an Atheist household,I am Catholic because of the overwhelming amount of history that backs it up.
@@averagezoomer Not all individuals are religious based on location, but majorities are (Philippines 99% catholic, etc). Muslims have 3 or 4 billion followers, what makes us Christians so sure theres isnt true? Again, I'm Christian 100% lol just saying its impossible to factually know whats correct and what isn't. A mystery of the world
Protestantism is in sharp decline in the west. And it's because of 'sola scriptura'
Wow your so wrong and right in the same statment!!! This was for the comment poster not your replies. Well I think?
If only you non Catholics could hold to your marriage vows as well as you could cite scripture to suit your purposes.
@Asaph Vapor If only Prots could stop incest in Alabama.
Lmao, I'm from the most Catholic country in the world : Brazil. I don't even need to say anything more, look at carnaval. That shit was invented and developed in a country where until the 90's almost (if not more) 70% was Catholic. Also, most of the Catholics practised fornication.....
Lets us pray for each other please put your faith in christ and trust him
Look not to men or traditions but to please God
Um, a Sola Scriptura true protestant doesn't beleive salvation is "by grace alone through faith alone". You'd have to ignore the rest of scripture or say Peter was wrong to hold to that view. Read 1st Peter 3:18-22 and read and reread verse 21 over and over to recognize "by grace alone through faith alone" is an oversimplification.
Paul's letters were written to the Churches: to those who were already Christian. If you want to see conversion into Christianity from unsaved to saved then you need to read the conversions in Acts. See Acts 2, 8, 10, 22 (verse 16)
You need both works and faith! Not faith ALONE look up in the bible, James 2:24-26 (this is in yall's version of the bible). AND Catholics ARE CHRISTIANS, We are the original church created by Jesus. THUS The ORIGINAL CHRISTIANS and were the Christians who died for the faith in the early church. Be reminded that Martin Luthur did change the bible taking out books (he didn't agree with) and even adding in words. Please, I ask ALL Christians BOTH CATHOLIC AND PROTESTANT (yes, that include you Baptists, Pentecostals, Lutherans, and Methodist) to look at Christian history and learn more about the Catholic faith ( there are many resources like the Catechism, which outline the Catholic Christian Faith.)
yes please! im Catholic and been watching Christian tiktoks and ppl saying the Catholic church is evil and all which is NOT true
There are many reputable videos on Catholic misconceptions by qualified speakers. Scott Hahn, Bishop Barron , Alaister McIntyre etc.
The way I see it. When christianity was being established there were experts in many fields all working together to collate what is now the Bible. They worked painstakingly on this and devoted their lives to getting it right.
When completed because of the subtlety in the nuances it was thought that it should be interpreted by those that would take these nuances into account. In an age when most people were illiterate this was thought to be the best move.
If these nuances were to be misinterpreted they could give ambiguity to the texts.
Catholicism left the interpretations to those qualified to do so and accepted the word handed down.
This was to prevent multiple interpretations leading to schisms in the Christian doctrine.
It is these schisms that have lead to all the different evangelical and protestant versions.
Just for the record Catholics do not worship Mary, she is venerated.
We dont worship statues. ( ark of the covenant had statues on it ).
Anyway if you dare to look online for reasonable Catholic answers they are there.
No excuses for idolatry, they do worship her. Praying to the dead and statues of them is worship no matter how you spit ball it. God loves us and God Bless!
@@baraneo8195 Do you honor your parents? lovingly remember your grandparents by keeping a picture of them? Belong to a prayer group? Ever asked someone to pray for you?
@@CadillacBunner Do I pray to them? No? Do I pray to the dead? No? do I exalt them? No.
Praying to someone other than God is literally idolatry.
@@baraneo8195 I know that.
A true born again Christian is sealed by the Holy Spirit and the Holy Spirit is very active in the life of that believer . This is the best evidence because the Holy Spirit produces fruit and ministers to the believer in ways an unbeliever cannot experience. 1st John tells us all about the hallmarks of a born again believer
@@nestproductions7420 How do you know you are indwelt by the Holy Spirit?
listen to me I'm a catholic and I'm just a kid trying to get a answer and I just want to know if ill go to heaven I really want to visit my grandma
In heaven we will be like one of an angel there will be no more human feeling
Read the Bible and you'll get your answer
Jesus died on the cross, and in so doing He took the penalty for your sins. He rose from the dead, and promises eternal life to all who trust in Him, have faith in Him and Him alone. We’ve all sinned, broken God’s laws time and again, and therefore we deserve God’s wrath, not life in heaven. There is nothing we can do to change that ourselves. But God’s great love is that He gave Jesus His Son, and Jesus stepped in and took that wrath for us when He died. Believe. The issue is our sins condemn us, but by the grace of God, through faith in Jesus we are saved. You must trust Him and Him alone. Read your Bible, all of it, learn more and more. Don’t take my word for it, or anyone’s. Read the Bible. It will point you to Jesus. You will see. God bless you.
Thank God I’m Catholic
agreed!! "Your are Peter, and on this rock I will build My church" - which church - The Catholic Church of course!
Nonsense….the “church” is referring to Jesus
Jesus is the head of the church and we Catholics make up his body.
Thank God I am not
l believe in God, the Father Almighty, Creator of Heaven and earth; and in Jesus Christ, His only Son Our Lord, ... I believe in the Holy Spirit, the holy Catholic Church, the communion of saints, the forgiveness of sins, the resurrection of the body and life everlasting
The apostles Creed!!!✝️✝️✝️🙏🙏🙏
@@davidhunter2393 The Catholic Church is anything but Holy
Even Luther mentioned the holy Catholic Church in the apostles creed
@Jon Morgan Watson Martin Luther is the founder of your faith.Unless you believe the bible came from thin air I would agree with you
@Jon Morgan Watson I was evangelical to catholic I too believe the bible was inspired by holy men spake through the Holy Ghost these where the early apostles of the Catholic Church in 1st, 2nd,3rd centuries Catholic Church put their writings together to make the bible.
Whoever calls on the name of Jesus
And trust him as savior is CHRISTION
Unless they also commit idolatry.
@@baraneo8195 who commits idolatry?
@@niakoch9390 catholics.
A Christian is someone who believes in Jesus Christ (that he is God) and follows his teachings. I believe Catholics believe in Jesus and they follow His teachings. We all try to follow Jesus's teachings exactly and faithfully (we try to emulate him) and we will ALL inevitably fail in one way or another. Only God knows who is going to heaven!
Dude the church does NOT contradict our faith!
We are saved BECAUSE we believe (- & we believe because of what we've heard from the church started by Jesus Christ!)
There is no "error" in matters of faith and morals taught by the church.
If "Protestant" was right then WHICH "Protestant" church is THE church started by Jesus Christ?
(* And WHICH "Protestant" church can trace it's roots all the way to Peter Paul and Jesus??)
@Malachy.......Your response to this yapping-with-no-comprehension man here is brilliant !! You are BRILLIANT !!!
when you make an anti-Catholic video and Catholics rip into your falsehoods in large scale
tim spangler could you please stop stalking me on youtube. I have no interest in speaking to you.
@@7James77 I noticed that many, maybe even all of Tim Spangler's messages have been deleted, from a lot of You Tube videos. I don't know whether he voluntarily removed them, or if he was kicked off You Tube. We used to debate a lot. He was a character. He used to deliberately pick fights with just about everyone. So, hopefully, he has stopped stalking you. Someone told me that he goes under a lot of different names. Who knows, maybe he converted to the Catholic Church?
@@marymac7605 Anything is possible 😂
@@7James77 True. I just noticed that many, if not all of his messages have been deleted. It would be great if he repented and returned to the Church. Thanks, and God Bless, MM
@@marymac7605 It is odd. I hope he has too. God bless you as well.
What’s funny is that I’ve been Catholic for forty-two years: alter boy to Christmas & Easter Catholic, read and watched Catholic and Apologetic videos, read Trent, countless masses, looked it Catechism, etc and I haven’t once heard or read, “your saved by faith + works.” It’s the oddest thing, the only people that preach faith + works are Protestants who think we preach it.
We do preach it, Andrew. Faith plus works is sound Catholic doctrine. Read Matthew 25:31-46.
George Penton that whole discourse is predicated in our acceptance of Christ as our Savior. Those virtues by themselves don’t get is to heaven, but a reflection of Christ in us. Works based Gotta read Trent, brother, “ “If anyone says that man can be justified before God by his own works, whether done by his own natural powers or by the teaching of the Law, without divine grace through Jesus Christ, let him be anathema” (Session 6; can. 1).
I think we are in agreement, Andrew. The Church teaches that faith without works is dead but she also teaches that works without faith is dead. Where Catholics and Protestants differ is that Catholics believe that faith is just the beginning whereas Protestants think that faith is all we need. Catholics see salvation as a process. Protestants think salvation is a one time event where they have an emotional experience after giving their hearts to Jesus at a revival meeting. There is nothing wrong with giving your heart to Jesus, of course, but salvation is a lot more than that. If a Protestant gives his heart to Jesus but goes back to his sins, like a lot of them do, he won't go to Heaven. Worse, if he thinks his salvation experience gives him a license to sin---and many think just that---he will not go to Heaven.
Thats the problem, you go by the doctrine of catholisism, and not by the doctrine of jesus Christ, and i see you dont read the holyscriptures. Yeap your not a christian.
@Asaph Vapor Where is your evidence for that? The Church has always professed Christ as Savior. And remember, your Catholic (use our theology + Bible + worldview) just deny Church authority. So its our (collectively) theology.
We are saved by grace through faith .How can explain this or can we save by good works
We are only saved by grace and this salvation produces a change in our minds in heart and brings good works naturally. If you don't have authentic repentance of your sins then you probably aren't saved. Your works will never be what saves you because you can't cleans yourself of all your past sins. Only Jesus can do that. In the end you will be saved by grace only by faith in Jesus Christ. Never walk in the flesh and live and sin but at the same time and never trust in your works to save you. You need to remember that you are only saved by grace through faith in Jesus.
Where in a Bible is written that woman Christian in relation with Muslim she should give religion to child?! Please answer.
I dont believe you can be automatically saved by just believing in Jesus.
Yes you can
@@ASMRyouVEGANyet No that's heresy.
I was a member of Church of Christ for 38 years, I converted to Roman Catholic,, best decision of my life,,, this was kind of insulting,,, no meat on that bone if you ask me
Kind of insulting? What about?
Not the best decision of your life homie. You commit open idolatry. Not exactly the best decision. Have a nice life. God loves us so truly! Amen!
@@baraneo8195 According to you right ?
@@Bugsy0333 According to God's word not mine. It's objective that what he chose is idolatry, it's not subjective when it comes to God's word if you are a Christian. God's word can't be argued with.
@@baraneo8195 There are over 10,000 Gods what makes you think you have cosen the correct one? Just curious ?
You can't argue Gods word? Why not ?
If Salvation is by grace through faith, then it's not dependent on the correctness of one's theology - it's not by "grace through faith with correct theology". (I'm not saying I believe Catholic theology is incorrect, I'm just drawing the implications of this video).
This video seems to imply that the one "work" that saves you is correct theology, which is a strange position
I don't even need scripture. Just common sense. There's serial killers that believe in Jesus. I doubt their faith alone will save them
According to Protestantism all believers in Christ are automatically saved. Well, Catholics believe in Jesus. Therefore according to Protestant logic all Catholics are saved.
Right, Protestants?
Ignorant. 🤦🏽♂️
Why not listen to Dr. Scott Hahn: a great protestant preacher who converted to the Catholic Church & now a great Catholic theologian & preàcher!😇😇😇
Live Truth!
Live Catholic!
Have you listened to Bartholomew F Brewer: a former catholic priest who was saved by grace from his dead religion. Has a wonderful book called 'Pilgrimage from Rome' would recommend reading it.
Live Truth!
Live Jesus!
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YES, Catholics who proclaim Jesus Christ as their Savior ARE Christians.
True, some just go to Mass and pretend to be Christian, just like many Protestants do likewise. And those Catholics as well as Protestants will end up in Hell 🔥 if they do not wake up and repent.
(Good works have a lot more to do with living in accordance with God's Word and will, and less to do with being kind or good deeds)
As for being saved, are we saved by faith alone, or faith + works?
Let's see what the Bible says
JAMS. 2:24: -A man is justified by works and NOT by faith alone.
JAMS. 2:26: -Faith without works is dead.
GAL. 5:6: -only thing that counts is faith working in love.
1 COR. 13:2 - faith without love is nothing.
JOHN 14:15 - If you love Me (Jesus) keep My Commandments.
MATT. 19:16-17 - If you wish to enter into life, keep My Commandments.
beautiful brother. one thing to add is that yes those people you mention may end up in hell, but we do not condemn nor say with assurance that they will be, all we can do is HOPE (and pray) that many will be saved including the lukewarm, including the non believers. It is in this way we show our true Christianity, praying and showing love for our enemies. God Bless.
On a purely historical basis protestantism came out of the catholic church/orthodox church.
james 2 24 you are justified by works and not by faith alone the catholic church teaches it is grace from beginning to end but tsola fide is used one time in scripture and it used to REJECT IT
I'm just Christian, through and through. But I believe that if you believe in your heart that Jesus is Lord and accept his teachings you will be saved. (Romans 10:9) No matter your denomination. Just my opinion! Can't wait to see yall in heaven! God bless! 💘🙏🏻✝️
Thank you for keeping the peace god bless 🙏🙏🙏✝️✝️✝️
God bless
Of course nothing in the Bible say " if you believe in your heart that Jesus is Lord you'll be saved" That the sinners prayer and made up by evangelicals.
@@jgood3047 Um yes it does. Romans 10:9 like I said in my original comment
You are PROTESTANT Christian, don't steal the title Christian, you anglos are THIEVES
Way to dodge the crux of the issue and turn it into a defense of whether or not every single catholic is or isn't a true believer. You need to go into politics my good man.
You just made the argument of blind leading the blind for all Catholics. In your dissertation, if a theologian who leads the church, who studied the scriptures, aware of the full gospel yet refused correction, could be nowhere near salvation. How could he then guide the church members to salvation?
In North America, I've heard many less informed Christians (both Protestant and Catholic) conflate Protestantism with Christianity. Once, I asked a self-described Christian if he was Protestant because he said he wasn't Catholic, and he didn't even know the word, Protestantism. It's one thing to think Christianity is just Catholic/Protestant (sorry Orthodox Christians) but to not even know about Protestantism just perplexes me.
Protestants are extremely ignorant
Most “Christians” don’t know The Bible or if they’re Protestant or not and many other fundamental beliefs that they should.
The Error of the Protestant Lie:
"But as for the cowardly and unbelieving, and abominable and murderers, and fornicators and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, their portion shall be in the pool that burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death." Revelation 21:8, ignored by all liars. See Rev 21:27 also.
It is a foregone conclusion that Jesus Christ founded only one Church.
1) Why then, do Protestants ignore this fact and continue to splinter the Body of Christ?
2) There is no Protestant who can trace his or her church back any farther than the Protestant revolt of the early 16th century.
Where is the verse which authorized them to break from the true Church in the first place?
3) No Protestant can show that their church was founded by Jesus Christ, yet Scripture says there is only one Church, the one founded by GOD (Psalms 127:1, Matthew 16:18).
4) They deny that the Catholic Church is the Church which Jesus Christ founded, yet they cannot name the Church which He did found in its stead. Isn't it strange that Scripture has said that GOD's Church will last forever (Isaiah 2:2,59:21, Matthew 28:20, Ephesians 3:21), and yet Protestants refuse to name it? If Scripture can be believed at all, why then do they refuse to name GOD's one and only Church?
5) They cannot name the person who founded the Catholic Church while at the same time they deny that it was Jesus Christ. That is strange also, since every Church on earth was founded by a person with a name. Every single one of the tens of thousands of Protestant sects can be traced back to a human person with a name, as its founder. Why is it that Protestants refuse to name the founder of the Catholic Church?
Isn't that the epitome of arrogance as I touched upon in a previous segment?
6) Why do Protestants spread the lie that the Catholic Church apostatized soon after the last Apostle died, and therefore the Church of today is not the one that Jesus Christ founded?
This lie flies in the face of Matthew 16:18, as Protestants must then have to admit that the 'gates of hell' did indeed prevail, that the Bible was in error, and that all of the verses I have previously listed that promise the perpetualty of Christ's Church must be in error as well. This so-called "great apostasy" lie is then magnified a hundredfold since no Protestant can produce genuine historical documents which record such a "monumental, universe shaking event". Every writer who was alive at the time had to have witnessed that supposed "profound event", and those who have lived ever since (up until the time that the lie was invented by Protestantism), did not write about it either. What with the "greatest event since the crucifixion" at hand, why didn't they? It is because it never happened, that's why. Simply put, "No lie is of the truth", 1John @, so therefore no lie can be proven.
Scripture does say that people within Christ's Church will apostatize, but not the Church itself. For you see, it is impossible, since Christ is the Head, and the Church is His Body.
How could the Body of Christ rebel against, and leave His Head? They are inseparable forever.
"Wives, be subject to your husbands, as to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, and is himself its Savior." Ephesians 5:22-23
Okay Protestants, explain those verses? Is Christ really the Savior of His Body, or did He desert it as Protestantism would have us believe? Is Holy Scripture in error yet again according to Protestant false charges?
Are we to believe the Protestant lie, or the truth of the Word of GOD?
Do you recall the story of the wheat and the chaff, where the weeds will co-exist with the righteous up until the very end, and then they will be separated out and burned (Matthew 13:24-30)?
"For, in the first place, when you assemble as a church, I hear that there are divisions among you; and I partly believe it, for there must be factions among you in order that those who are genuine among you may be recognized." 1Corinthians 11:18-19.
From those two verses we have a perfect example of the apostasy of individuals within the Church, those who cause divisions and factions. Now from what I have shown in many places in this writing, just who is the cause of divisions and factions? It is none other than Protestantism. Protestantism has already created over 36,000 divisions and factions, and which number is still increasing unceasingly every week to this very day.
Who are the 'genuine among you'?
They are the faithful of the one and only Church that Jesus Christ founded and which is still with us after almost 2000 years of persecution. Read Acts 5:38-39 for the reason why this longevity.
For those who continue to spread the lie of the so-called, and non-existent, "great apostasy", please re-read Revelation 21:8, and endeavor to explain Ephesians 5:23-24?
7) How many verses have I shown in this writing that Protestants ignore? Isn't it a lie to say that you follow Scripture literally to the word, and yet ignore so many Scriptural verses?
8) Why do Protestants take the whole Bible literally except for John chapter 6, which they call symbolic? One chapter in the whole Bible is symbolic? How can that be true?
9) How can Protestants say that Sola Scriptura has been in use from day one, when for over 1400 years almost no one had a Bible, and even if they did, the great majority of the masses were illiterate anyhow?
10) Since Protestants believe that "all Scripture is inspired (2Tim @)", then why aren't the gospels of Peter, Philip, Nicodemus, Bartholomew, Andrew, Thomas, etc, in their Bible?
11) Where in Holy Scripture did Jesus give instructions that the Christian faith is to be solely based on a book? How about the same question except for using the Apostles instead of Jesus?
12) Why do Protestants say it is the Bible which is the pillar and foundation of truth when the Bible clearly says it is the Church (1Tim @)? Please give me the name of that Church?
13) Why do Protestants reject Apostolic Tradition when the Bible clearly says, "So then, brethren, stand firm and hold the teachings that you have learned, whether by word or by letter of ours."
2Thessalonians @, yet another verse ignored, and taught against by Protestantism.
14) Why do Protestants deny that the Bible came from the Catholic Church when they cannot name a truthful and provable alternate source, and where there are literally hundreds of genuine historical documents which prove them to be wrong in their denial?
15) Protestants deny that Peter was given primacy in Matthew 16:18. Nothing in Scripture is done without a purpose. For what purpose then, did Jesus change Simon's name to Peter?
16) Why do Protestants deny that the Papacy is Scriptural, when in fact, it is very Scriptural?
17) Why is it that Protestants can never supply genuine historical documents to "prove" their false charges? Is it because the lie can never be proven, but the truth can be?
It is simple, if you have no truth, then you have no proof.
Catholics can, and do, supply genuine historical documents to prove what they teach.
Why then do Protestants refuse to read them? Romans 1:18, 2:8
18) Why do Protestants deny the unbroken line of succession of Popes down through the centuries from St. Peter to the present Pope, when the Catholic Church has given free access for anyone to research genuine historical documents to prove it to be true, but Protestants refuse to read them? Anyone can go to a secular encyclopedia and see the same succession of Popes.
19) Why do Protestants deny that the Catholic Church has existed from the first century, when hundreds of genuine historical documents, written by scores of Holy men and women, are freely available to prove them wrong in their denial? However, Protestants simply refuse to read them. As explained earlier, Protestants teach that history ended with Acts 28:30 and did not begin again until Luther came along.
20) I saved the worst Protestant lie as the last one on this list. When asked who founded the Catholic Church, there are some who answer correctly that it is Jesus Christ who founded it, but they quickly add that the Catholic Church fell into apostasy and is not the same Church today as the one founded by Jesus. Of course they have no documented proof of this world shaking event as to the who caused it and when and where it happened. By making this false charge they may have condemned themselves because they have just called Jesus Christ a liar. You see there are verses in Holy Scripture which they either choose to ignore or do not understand, and the verses show that Jesus in fact did promise that His Church would last for all time and so did St Paul:
Sheesh, you put a lot of time in this post. I find it amusing that the common enemy of many Protestants to be the Catholic Church. Yet there is no discussion of Eastern Orthodox. Also when a Southern Baptist disagrees with a Methodist, nothing is heard about it.
I'm thankful to be protestant free now for 4 years. If only others would put away their pride and read Church history and teachings then they might see the beauty that I now see. When I think of Christ's Church, nothing compares to the truth, beauty, and good like our Church does.
What I'd like to know is how you justify ignoring Christ Jesus in His teaching about the necessary reception of His Body and His Blood and summarily usurp that which He established. Merely "saying" you accept Jesus while empowering yourself to disregard His words is no sign of faith, but rather presumption.
That part of the gospel is the core of the problem once a protestant acknowledges that Jesus is truly present in the Eucharistic he would have made a great step.
There's no such thing as Eucharist....you have been indoctrinated into lies and deception.... wake up and turn to the Real Jesus ....the RCC is a false and pagan church and religion established by Satan and evil men to lead you to hell....wake up
@@guy.h421 the core part of the gospel is that Jesus died for sinners for those who will believe in Him and turn to Him for the forgiveness of their sins so they would avoid the wrath of God that would send them to hell....and they would live their lives according to the Word of God... which is the New Testament only.... because everything outside of the New Testament is the teachings of Satan.... you should study the NT...not the false teachings of the Roman pagan church...
@@lydiapetra1211 No such thing as the Eucharist? Read John 6:48-69.
@@lydiapetra1211 If all you have to do is believe in Jesus to be saved, and since Catholics believe in Jesus, how can Catholics be going to Hell? And if everything not in the New Testament is from Satan, how do you explain 2 Thessalonians 2:15?
My husband was born and raised Roman Catholic. I was raised in a southern Baptist church. We have had countless discussions about the differences in our churches and what we were taught growing up through the church. We have come to realize through reading our bibles together and forming strong, independent relationships with the Lord that both of our churches taught us things that we do not agree with today. It is my belief that everyone can find something their church has taught them that may be contrary to what the Bible actually says. I think being honest with one another and reading the word of God on your own time can enlighten you beyond just attending church. My husband and I are Christians and now we tend to only say that, without following up with our denomination because in the end it doesn’t matter what you identify as. It only matters if you are saved through Christ.
Hang on i was raised Roman Catholic and left the faith many years ago.The Catholic faith has a big problem .
You and your husband should read John 6. Only the Catholic Church observes this correctly
@@Bugsy0333 Well, go back and it won't be a problem
@rangers94ism The history of Catholic pedophile priests and the cover-up right to the Pope has turned my stomach away.
What about yourself what's your feeling?
@@Bugsy0333 Those pedophiles weren't true Priests. They were predators posing as priests. However, if you are going to throw stones make sure that you are not living in a glass house.
James says with out works faith is dead so by having faith we're granted God's grace the train ticket already been purchased but just because the train ticket is purchased for you doesn't mean you don't need to pack your stuff
Eph. 2:8-9
Salvation is the Gift of God to believers through faith in Jesus
Has any of you been to Japan? They have a tea ceremony.... it takes a long time just to have a sip of tea. But we enjoy watching and participating it... we are trying to understand and feel the process, feel the meaning of it.... it is just a cup of tea!!!..... the moral of the story..... it is a tradition, thats why in cath we have traditions too... if cant understand the tradition of serving tea.... get the instant one on the shelf
Ex-Catholic here. I never learned anything in the Catholic church. I hopped around from Catholic chruch to Catholic Church. It wasn’t for me in the end. But I can honestly say, (and I’m not speaking for anyone else but myself) I didn’t know Jesus Christ for 26 years of my life until a year ago. I accepted Jesus a few years ago and am now a non denominational Christian. Just a. Christian. Not Catholic, not Protestant, not, not Baptist. Christian.
When you were Catholic how often did you go to church? Did you go to C.C.D.? Did you ever go to Confession?
George Penton never i was pretty much atheist with the title of “Catholic” ya know?
@@Byzantium_ So you know very little about it, right?
George Penton now I know a lot about. Look if you’re going to say is still know nothing about it then just stop. You Catholics are all the same. Smh
George Penton still wanna talk? Let debate the doctrine of transubstantiation. I’m happy to.
Just here for the historical information. Not religious whatsoever, but saw a documentary on the Knights Templar, and fell down a rabbit hole. From a non bias outside perspective, it seems silly to not think Catholics aren’t Christians. Do you all acknowledge one Creator? Was Jesus s real person and son of God? Do you all acknowledge sin and forgiveness? Then Catholics are Christians. End of story. It’s not that complicated.
Catholics derived from from the Old Testament which was translated from the Hebrew Scripture. Everyone knows the scripture may have been misinterpreted in some areas due to the limited selection of words, which hold multiple definitions. What a clusterf***. The point is, if you accept God into your heart and life, and acknowledge that he is your creator, and live a life of love, respect, acceptance, forgiveness etc, you’re a Christian. All of you are Christians in my eyes. To each and their own, cheers.
There is more to the biased, and unresearched opinions you have just claimed. The man-made church that you follow was birthed OUTSIDE of and CONTRADICTING to Scripture teachings around 1600 years after the first Christians have been continuously gathering together to receive Christ's Body and Blood as He has commanded. This was an oral tradition, as it was orally taught by Jesus Himself, and then passed on by His apostles. Which was then reflected on writing within about 400 years after His resurrection.
That is tradition as clearly demonstrated in the Scriptures.
Don't fall and prematurely resort to shallow and present day descriptions of some words found in Scripture. Read always in context and in truth, as with any book you would. It says what it says, people are imperfect and often misunderstand its true meaning, or worse, interpret it consciously or unconsiously to fit their beliefs. I'd be more careful about those bold claims, be careful not to spread lies, dear friend.
I find it presumptuous that someone from the Southern Baptist Denomination, which is less than 200 years old, has the gall to suggest that members of a 2000 year old church founded by Jesus himself might not be Christians. The vast majority of Christians who have ever lived have been Catholic.
@@brycemitchell6343 The Catholic Church has been rated with corruption for over a 1000 years.
Christianity doesn’t link to Catholicism.
@@3leon306 That all? And you have the uhh... intellectual horsepower?
Matthew 7:21
"Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall. enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth. the will of my Father which is in heaven." Please, Dr. Wills, be honest in teaching scripture. And if you truly believe that salvation comes by faith alone, then do, by all means, believe what Christ says in Scripture.
They are protesting against the Catholic faith no wonder they became blind. A faith born in rejection ,that's the reason of the division among protestants.
@Asaph Vapor ua-cam.com/video/wkizAGObCuk/v-deo.html
As the bible seems to be your favourite arguments to the debunk the Catholic faith, you should at least check the history of that book which is a Catholic property.
@@guy.h421 seriously?...No wonder Satan is the god of the Roman catholic church!!!
The Bible is the property of God!...God inspired it to be written not people!!
You know there's an Old Testament written by Jews for Jews and inspired by God....and the New Testament was written breathed by God centuries before the Roman church was founded!
Enough of your foolishness!!
Faith in Christ os all that is necessary but faith in Christ means faith in all He taught, including Eucharist (John 6:48-69), Confession (John 20:22), good works (Matthew 25:31-46), Purgatory (Matthew 5:25-26 and Luke 12:58-59), and the papacy (Matthew 16:18-19).
@@georgepenton808 stop your demonic chatter... cannibalism is not part of it..neither is praying to dead people!
Roman catholism is a made up Roman pagan religion...
Get ready to spend eternity in hell...with Satan...
Don't scroll down. Resist the urge.
Lol That’s funny. Trying to keep people sane
As an agnostic looking from the outside, I would say yes
yes that catholics are christians? if so your dead wrong
im also agnostic :)
How is this even a question ?
Since other groups says otherwise.
Because those who went out from the church are classified as Antichrist according to first John 2:18 through 19
@@thefiringsquadtfs6392 those groups diverged from Catholicism itself.
All Christians are saved because we believe in Jesus! Thank you Jesus for saving us
Yes... you are right...but a Christian refers only to a true believer who is born again and led by the Holy Spirit....who lives according to the New Testament only!
@@nestproductions7420 that's not what I wrote... please reread what I wrote!!!
@@nestproductions7420 I didn't mention the Old Testament.... only the New Testament... what is it that you don't understand so I can explain it to you.
@@nestproductions7420 Christian means follower of Jesus according to New Testament...the New Testament is God's infallible Truth and Word!
Anyone who is not born again as in John 3:3 will never go to heaven....the New Testament is the only direction, instruction and teachings sanctioned by God...
If you follow any other teachings than the New Testament than you follow doctrines taught by demons!!
@@nestproductions7420 dude... you have the right to go to hell.... if you reject God's Truth...that's where you are going.
I was raised Catholic and never knew Jesus! My mom was a Catholic until she was 47 was born again and then left the Catholic Church! I left at 17 and was born again a few years later!
What do you mean you never knew Jesus in the Catholic church, the Catholic church continually preaches Jesus!!!
ua-cam.com/video/pRndjtob4lU/v-deo.html
Everything about Catholicism is focused on Jesus.
sounds like you both made a huge mistake. 17? and you thought you had the authority or the knowledge to know the true faith and its holy mysteries in its entirety, and then have the audacity to say that the catholic baptism was not confirming or validating to give you communion within the true faith? and to say you were born again? after already being born again through christian catholic baptism? jesus says himself that not all who cry jesus will receive salvation, even though you now presumably claim to ‘know’ Him in your schism, he says he will say to those people, he never knew you, and then you go to everlasting fire. there are no words for this ignorance and apostasy. only one. demonic.
MiraculousToons do you believe in both Testaments
The topic of the question is Eclesiological since you are comparing 2 churches Catholic and protestants the answer should be on how many churches did Christ founded and why there are so many denominations. The answer given is about doctrine of salvation presenting only the protestant doctrine as correct without explaining why.
Because the protestant reformation is based on the Bible. The Roman Church was extremely corrupt and pagan at the time that the church claims they were the first church. You don't know any of this because you get your history from the very church that is deceiving you. A simple study of Roman history will give you an idea of what we are dealing with. Christianity was illegal until 313 AD when Emperor Constantine issued the Edict of Milan, making Christianity tolerated. It didn't become the offical religion of Rome until years later. How can the first church, in Rome, be Christian when they were persecuting and killing heretics who were really just bible-believing Christians that refused to acknowledge the Roman Church because of its pagan traditions and rituals. Early Rome was a cesspool of immorality.
A landmark report on Tuesday found that at least 330,000 children were sexually abused by clergy and lay members of church institutions in France over the past 70 years.
If we look in depth we won't find a single Christian denomination free of sin what we will find is Christians failing to follow the teachings of Christ.
We won't go anywhere by attacking the sin of the other what we can discuss are the articles and objectives of the protestant reformation
Such as "Sola Scriptura" is it really Christian or not?
@@DistributistHound No such thing as sin.Its a man made word for followers of Christ.
Your channel should interview Dr. Brant Pitre too.
actually, all wrong. Luther directly contradicted James and the Book of Romans. He ignored scripture that didn’t fit his theology.
Had Luther said gratia prima rather than sola gratia he would have not been a heretic. Romans opens and closes with the idea of pistis or the obedience of faith. We are called to love and charity as fulfillment of the law ... these replace the 613 laws of the Torah. Catholics are NOT Pelagians or semi-Pelagians. Like most protestants, you rely on caricature and strawmen to make your critique. Here's an idea: read more, talk less.
Wrong
@@williamgullett5911 ha! Reading fixes many things ...
@@3leon306 not your dishonesty
@@williamgullett5911 funny how we’re responding to a video the nature of which is dishonesty and slander, right? it’s perfectly acceptable to slander Catholics using caricature and general ignorance of the faith ... or did I not understand the video
@@3leon306 First of all, funny is misused too much. Second, sharing GODs word and being concerned for catholic misteaching and subsequent issues with GOD in judgement isnt out of hate
Short answer is yes
Is Bobby Chapa available to exchange emails with me (just subscribed to his channel)?
Hi Cren, sorry I only get on a couple of times a day. My email is in my about section of my channel. If you want to have a respectful dialog on Catholic beliefs and Mexican culture lets connect. I will logon tomorrow again around 9ish EST. Have a good night and God bless.
@@Chapa-cybersec good evening Senor Chapa
I was hoping to chat with you today but I saw your email nowhere in the about section of your channel (which I even subscribed to).
@@Chapa-cybersec my email is crencottrell@gmail.com
@@crencottrell7849 bobby.chapa@gmail.com I would prefer that we do a video conference though google hangouts that way we can speak naturally. Please email me date/time to meet.
Who decides? Who has the final authority to decide whether I am a Christian or not?