PANDEPIC: The Lightweight Downcountry Epic Evo Built During a Pandemic
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- Опубліковано 16 лип 2024
- I couldn't buy a lightweight downcountry mountain bike so I pieced my own together and built up a Specialized Epic Evo "Comp" model to weigh as little as an S-works.
Build List:
Fork: SID Ultimate SL
Shock: Rockshox Deluxe Select+
Dropper: KS Suspension Lev-Ci Carbon
Bars: ProTaper Hyperlite
Stem: Kalloy Fair Wheel Kalloy Uno Stealth Stem
Grips: ESI Grips Fit XC
Shifter: SRAM GX AXS
Derailleur: SRAM GX AXS
Saddle: Specialized Power Pro
Cranks: eThirteen XCX Race
Cassette: eThirteen Helix R12
Wheels: Roval Control SL
Tires: Specialized Ground Control 2.3
Frame: Specialized Epic Evo - Спорт
I did the same to my Epic EVO Comp. Upgraded to XT/XTR drivetrain, SID SL fork, Reynolds/i9 wheels, and carbon post and bars and it's under 23# for a medium.
Nice build there, during the Pedaldemic, I did a complete rebuild on a 21 Epic EVO Expert, It's 21.5 pounds now, drivetrain is the most important for handling/exceleration, XO1 cassette, XX1 gold chain, XO1 cranks, 36t Specialized Eagle aluminum chainring, XTR SPD pedals, Roval SL wheels/removed tape, put in plugs, Stans Race tubless, Specialized 2.35 S-Works Fast T5/T7 Trac front, 2.35 T5/T7 Renegade rear, Rock Shock Sid Ultamate fork, Sram Centerline 2 piece rotors w/metalic pads, Syncros Hixon carbon bars w/built in 50mm stem, ESI Chunky grips, Fizik 3 D printed carbon saddle, Thompson Masterpiece seatpost, I've got 2,500+ miles on it in15 months, all trail miles, this bike is forgiving, fast, comfortable, I could get it lighter, but its amazing now, I have ODI BMX end caps(much stronger then ESI's) Wheel computer, electric bell, bottle cage w/tool, custom stem cap, Rock Shox front fender, Blue color frame, blue Roval wheel stickers, blue forks, blue grips, the brakes, shifter, headset, bottom bracket are all that left from stock, so not a total weight weennie !!! its lighter then a S-Works Epic EVO, and a few thousand $ less.. (I sold the parts I took off to lessen the $ load)..
That's awesome, such a good build on a fun bike!
Great video! Love seeing how the build came together
Did a similar thing. Got the base model Epic Evo and then swapped my GX axs and G2 rsc brakes from the old bike and found used race face cranks, i9 UL system wheels, "da package" bar stem combo, and AXS dropper and now have better than s-works for < $5K (minus the suspension upgrades, but I'm not a shock nerd - this is my first full squish bike)! Best part is I've got an "old bike" with a brand new drive train from the stock evo. Fun stuff, and sweet bike!
Thanks and likewise! Sounds rad.
White socks on the MTB…risky! Sweet build 🚂
Very impressive, great video.
Amazing content here Michael.
Hope this blows up
Thank you!!
Please do a vid comparing the costs. Thanks.
I ended up getting a handful of deals and a couple used components.
I was thinking about buying a Stump Jumper. But one of these in the store and asked to have a look. It’s still all stock right now. I just got it today. The salesperson told me to ride it a bit and come back in a few months to upgrade to tubeless tires.
Nice! Tubeless tires is great for sure.
The B roll track on the final product was sick!!
aw shucks
Looks epic 🔥
Epic indeed!
Could use some pink, though 🥳
what a beauty
🔥🔥 nice!!! Got to start to look for a new bike
MTBs are just fun
I started with the exact same Comp Epic Evo and then went with almost that build! I did ultimately changed it to a 130 fork, 117 rear (shock), and AXS post.
what shock did you put in to increase travel?
@@funLad80 42.5mm stroke Rockshock Debonair RT
@@akaktm thanks
nice to see some local creators make some banger content
You're too kind.
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Sorry for the late response but thank you!
Really appreciate this video! I also have an epic evo comp. Did up plenty of carbon, down to about 25#, and wondered what benefits there would be to some other carbon parts.
Guess there’s another 1.25# waiting out there if I wanted. This was helpful, thanks!
That's rad! After 8 months have you made any upgrades since?
@@TeamFeralCatz with the Holiday sales, I gave into the e13 Helix cassette, an XX1 carbon crankset with X01 chain (tried e13 XCX crankset just didn’t work out and returned), upgraded to XT derailleur and XT shifter, and splashed out on an Enve M6 stem to match the Enve M6 bar I had.
Only thing left that I’d consider would be ceramic bearing headset & BB, just to top it off :)
For me, not worth the cost for the SID Ultimate to shave ~100g
@@Jacob99174 why didn't the E13 crankset work? I was thinking of building up an Epic Evo with that crank
@@dancikovic4598 the BB interface was not smooth at all. The contact points did not have enough offset for the face of the crankset bearing to mate nicely to BB. Was not worth the work anymore for it to run smoothly.
Installed the SRAM XX1 with a Dub BB, and am very happy with it!
Awesome jersey dude!
Thank you!! We like to be a little loud.
Did the same thing. Sub 22 lbs with a rigid carbon seatpost and running SRAM 1x11 (perfect XC bike for Park City). Still under 23 lbs if I throw on my AXS dropper. I swapped out the RockShox shock and fork for Fox and it's 1000% better. I couldn't get the Rockshox tuned well - it was either super harsh or super soft, no perfect middle.
That's way rad to have it at 23lbs with the AXS dropper. Dope build!
Wheelset seems pretty weight weenie for a down country :)
I would change the saddle to a carbon rail one, no creaks if you use carbon paste on the rails/clamp !
Cool vid. I also have the same color Epic Evo Comp with tan sidewall ground control tires. It's such a fun and fast bike! Someday I'd like to get carbon wheels for the bike.
Such a fun bike! Did you ever end up getting carbon wheels? Those were the biggest chunk of weight saved on mine.
Great build! I’ve got the comp also & have to say the Roval wheels were a game changer for me 🤘🏼I went with carbon bars & switched over to Maxxis tyres. Overall is close to stock weight, but it RIPS the tails her in NZ 🤘🏼🤘🏼
Right on! It's such a fun bike!
Nice! I wanted the S-Works Epic Evo but had to settle for the Expert so I upgraded everything you did and more because I also wanted remote lockout front and rear. I went all in with remote Sid Ultimate fork, custom Fox remote lockout shock, XX1 AXS derailleur, cranks, oilslick cassette, and chain, Control SL wheelset with Maxxis Ikon rear 2.3 , Ardent 2.3 front, Magura MT Trail SL 4 piston front/2 piston rear brakes (I eventually want Trickstuff Piccola but they are behind by years), ultralight bar, stem, grips, and carbon saddle, Ti eggbeater pedals, and a Bike Yoke Divine SL 80mm dropper. I even swapped out the rear shock aluminum yoke for the carbon version. Total weight (medium): 22.5 lbs. I then sold all the take-offs so probably paid not much more overall than I would have for the S-Works but this one is lighter and has remote lock out.
Thats quite impressive and light build. Does epic evo have internal cable route for shock remote lockout or you are forced to have this cable routed externally ?
@@LuckyLuke6543 It does have internal routing. There is a little hole just above the shock on the underside of the top tube with a rubber grommet that will take a cable. This was a major selling point for me. However, there are only three entry holes on the head tube, so given one for the rear brake hose, then you have two spaces left for three cables. Thus either (or both) the seat post or the derailleur needs to be AXS. I chose the derailleur because the AXS seatpost is pretty heavy and I love AXS shifting.
Wow, I hadn’t thought of replacing the aluminum yoke. How much weight does that save?? I made lots of the upgrades you did, but with XTR drivetrain including the cranks with 4iiii power meters - that’s probably the biggest weight sacrifice I still have. I have the 125mm carbon KS Lev so I can really ride it like a trail bike. I do have the Trickstuff Piccola and highly recommend if you can find them. I’m so much happier with my custom Evo than if I had the S-Works.
@@michaeljensen4095 Cool I want the trickstuff brakes but they’ve not taking orders and I can’t find them. I had to replace my rear Magura because it keeps failing so I’m putting on an xtr 2 piston. XTR brakes were my second choice after the piccolas but they weren’t available at the time. It’s the story of my life that when I finally have enough money to build my dream bike there’s a worldwide shortage of parts. The carbon yoke saves an ounce or so.
@@ericmoore9554 I have to say… I think XTR 2-piston are pretty marginal compared to Magura. I think the most important thing with Magura is having someone who knows how to bleed and set the mineral oil up properly. I just swapped out XTR two-piston on my hardtail for a set of MT8s which I had laying around and it is amazing how much better they are. I have gone through this XTR to Magura MT8s on three bikes now… the only time I have ever had an issue was when I was traveling and had a mechanic work on them and screwed up the bleed… my home mechanic re-bled and all good. That said, the Picollas are even better and lighter. Supply should open up before long now that DT Swiss owns them. Hope they don’t screw up the quality.
she's a skinny legend
Subbed 👊🏽
Thank you, thank you!
Just collecting the 2022 EPIC EVO Comp this week. Your video confirmed the 2 things to change. Wheels - carbon rims is the goal and the cranks as I want 170mm as opposed to the 175mm standard. So I'll take some weight out while I am at it.
My only reservation will be how well I can now ride the chunky downhill trails as compared to my previous 2018 Trek Fuel EX 9.8. 130/130 vs 120/110. hoping i am not unhappy with this change.
How did you get on?
How’s it gone for you so far?? I still love my build, it’s so capable!
Cool video- I thought the line at the end saying no weight weenie parts was funny as the whole video was full of weight weenie parts- especially the wheels
True but at least not like clavicula carbon or thin walled carbon bars or anything haha
I took off weight on my bike by putting my self on a diet and lost 80 pounds
I am there now doing that, i will save 25kg off my bike weight when i'm done and i saved money.
@@HilleCine even with carbon fiber parts and expensive components light components, my bike still weighs 28 pounds but that’s normal for a trail bike. So if I want lighter, I put my self on a diet. It’s a win win situation.
Congrats on losing body pounds! But it is nice to have less weight underneath that body for bunny hopping and general throwing around.
@Steven K a trail bikes’s average weight is about 30 pounds which it’s normal. It would cost me more on parts just to shave a couple of hundred grams. Not even a kilogram. If I want lighter, I might as well get a hard tail carbon fiber bike which is nice. You can still bunny hop on a trail bike.
That's awesome!
Did you have to get a new chain? I have the same bike for the same reason you got yours. I could not get the pro model. I finally decided to upgrade it now. I like the fork, so I will keep it. I will get the Roval wheel set and new cassette. I was going to get the XTR cassette, but I think I like your choice better. I did not know which crank arms to get, but now I do. Thanks, you really helped a lot.
I had to get a new chain because I went from 11 to 12 speed.
My Giant Stance 2 weighs stock at 29 pounds tubeless tires ready.! So far I have taken 1/2 pounds by replacing the heavy pedals it came with and the handle bar grips I also installed polyurethane plastic fender that are super lightweight. Next on my agenda is replacing the seat with a 3D printed seat that will take off a pound I have researched this seat for months great reviews people say it’s the softest and lightest seat and durable. Also get a carbon fiber dropper post.! In the future Adding Maxxis Ikon tires. Maybe I might get Carbon fiber handle bars. That’s pretty much for know. I’m going to research find out if I can bring my bikes weight to 20 lbs. !!!!!
Sounds rad! How is your bike build now after 8 months? Did you get that saddle? If so, do you like it?
@@TeamFeralCatz actually i started and finished another project. i made a electric bike. with a mid drive motor a bought for the stance 2
My 2021 SWorks with AXS reverb dropper 2 cages and stamp 11 pedals weighs 24.3 lbs
Sweet, and that reverb dropper is nice
Your shoes😱
If there was one thing I would have changed, it would have been getting an xo1 axs derailleur rather than the gx. It's not as insanely priced as the xx1 model but it is almost nearly as light, it's like...20 grams off or something? and around 200g less than the gx, if I recall.
I’ve had X01 axs for 2 years now and can confirm, it’s totally worth it
Sorry for the old follow-up but I couldnt find one at the time so I had to settle for GX but I think the weight difference is smaller actually!
Crazy trail where is that!
Draper, Utah!
So you can use the ethirteen crank and cassette with the axs derailleur and setup? Also the crank xcx race carbon crank thats designed for road or gravel bikes? I also have an evo comp I'm planning to upgrade. I probably won't drop 2500 bucks for the roval control sl wheelset but might get the roval control carbon 6b xd (250 gram heavier wheelset) in its place
You can use shimano cassettes with the axs derailleur as well.
Did you have to switch the bottom bracket going from the Shimano to E*Thirteen cranks? If so, I wonder if there was any weight difference there
Sorry to only reply 8 months later but yes, I did have to switch the BB for the cranks. They were almost identical in weight though, the e13 BB actually weighed like 8 grams more.
I saved weight, sold my evo and bought a Cervelo Zfs 120
Oooh @coreymclernon how do you like it??
Hi, Awesome Review. What is the weight of a 2023 Epic Pro in XL and 2023 Epic Evo Pro in XL ? thanks
Good question! I haven't ridden one yet but I'll let you know if I do! Have you ridden it yet?
Is there a sence in changing the SID brain fork to something lighter? I have an Epic Expert, and as far as I feel that the Brain on the back is working, I cannot notice on the fork.
The brain is heavier than without the brain. That's what makes the evo sworks lighter than the regular sworks.
I thought my Evo build was sweet, but I’m almost 2 lbs heavier! I’m guessing that is in the fork, crank and cassette.
The crankset is like a half pound on its own! And the cassette weighs about the same as the XX1.
And in the end, how much was the cost of the up grade?
A squidzillion dollars would be my guess.
$7k
Great vid!!What was the cost of your build versus purchasing the equivalent S works?
Yes, would really like to know the costs, along with a parts-list... please!
@@climbhigh96 I agree. Please list the parts used in this build. It would be very helpful.
With taxes and maybe shipping here and there I’d guess he was 1k less.
Sorry for such a late response! Because I was patient and did get a couple parts that were used I was a couple grand less than the s-works cost. And I couldnt find one to buy anyways at the time haha.
@@climbhigh96 Sorry for such a late response, I'll add a parts list to the description if that's still helpful.
Did you upgrade the rear suspension? Are you using the stock rear?
Still stock rear! I wanted the SIDLuxe rear shock but couldnt find it. That would have saved 100g.
@fredvanallen what is a down country bike?
Cross country but with a little more travel. XC is typically 100mm of travel downcountry is more like 120mm
Parts in grams, bike in pounds... Aaaaa!
While i like the weight loosing thing , lately becoming more sceptical about real gains. Didn’t bike rip in the stock form? Does it just feel little bit snappier compared to how it was before ?
For sure, it ripped before but you can feel the 4 lbs difference in the build, especially when climbing or moving fast.
Hi. Nice upgrade ;) Do you know the frame weight? Thanks
I didn't take just the frame weight unfortunately. But it's surprising how much lighter this frame is than my same frame with cream paint on it haha.
But it cost quite a bit extra to replace all those parts.
Cost of base bike and after upgrades please
Hi, great video, could you tell me please how tall you are? I am stuck between M and L (leaning towards L) and I have noticed you ride Large one. This new trail geo confused me as I always rode Medium bikes (old geometry). Thank you
Sorry if this is too late to be helpful but I'm on a large right at 182cm.
@@TeamFeralCatz thank you
You broke the bank to do that. I built a bike from scratch that weighs less all for $4600 bucks. total weight on mone was 10.02 kilos, about 22 pounds
Very nice! What'd you build?
how much did you spent?
Hey I got the same bike on order in a xl and I’m wondering what size you have to find out the weight
Mine is a size large. You're going to love the bike.
How much you spend? For the upgrade. Are u a professional a racer. ?
Not professional, total around $7,000
Do you have a list or link for the parts you replace. I have the same bike and I want to drop the weight
I just built a revel ranger to 24.5 lbs. go for the control SL wheels, xo1 cassette, xx1 crank, one up carbon bar. And your good to go. At a minimum go with the wheels. Game changer.
I just added the parts list to the video description.
Tu horquilla delantera sid es de 100 o 110 mm de recorrido?
El sid es 120 mm
hey , boss wouldnt it be easier and way cheaper to lose couple of kilo yourself ?
It's no fun to give up cookies!
Parts-list please... !
Sorry for the late response but I added it to the description if its still helpful!
Sweet build. What was the total cost of parts switched out compared to purchasing an S-works
I need to tally it up but thousands less. I was patient and didn't overpay for anything and found some good deals amongst the chaos.
The s-works is another ca 700g less (saves further weight on frame, brakes, saddle, xx1 axs etc) I upgraded my evo expert similarly as you (cassette, handlebar, crank) but kept the control carbon wheels (vs getting control SL), now at 11.1kg with pedals. Superb bike! Ride safe & enjoy!
@@krausol2802 Yeah, my setup makes up the difference with a lighter crankset, bars, stem, and a much lighter dropper since the S-works comes with the AXS reverb. 11.1kg is great! It's a super fun bike.
Let me know when you build an mtb that's below 20 lbs.
Kevin, you’ll be the first one to know!
COSTS!
Yes 100g is a lot of coke...
But is it enough?
and the light weight , where ? 27lbs are 12kg
at the end - 23lb, 7oz
PLANDEMIC
I'll just lose 5 lbs off my body. Way cheaper.
I lost 10 lb and it came back again.. that's the catch `
@@chewchew74 with a name like “chew chew” can you say you’re surprised?