ATC here, there are times when there vehicle crossings or FOD collection going on requiring a perceived prolonged holding. Also a possible phone call about an aircraft may result in a slight delay while we try to resolve any issue before letting the aircraft depart, in the event a return to the gate is necessary. I will say, in my experience, that it is very rare that a holding for departure is forgotten about. There is the possibility that a pilot has annoyed the controller and a slight delay may be imposed on said pilot but I cannot confirm nor deny ever participating in such actions.
@@cataha ever heard jet lag and getting infected by uv Ray's and unusual time shift for job...most stressfully job? Ok you just sitting on chair 9-5 doing the job most people doing?
As someone with a CDL who DOES transport the cargo that talks back, you and your family have made a very wise choice! It's not just talking back and throwing things; it's also spitting at you, punching you, stabbing you, shooting at you, defecating/urinating inside of your vehicle, refusing to leave at the end of your workday, starting fights with the rest of the cargo, screaming at you for being allowed a 10 minute break within your workday, filming everything you do on their phones, leaving hazardous chemicals & syringes on your vehicle, committing crimes (like drug deals) on your vehicle or leaving the evidence of their crimes (like piles of security tags) on your vehicle, refusing to allow you to park in order to use a restroom, defacing your vehicle with graffiti, groping you (regardless of gender), going beyond not wearing a mask and being unsanitary by also purposefully coughing directly at your face during a pandemic, screaming at you for not agreeing to be put into a preventable accident situation (the higher their chance of death would have been, the angrier they become at you saying "no" to being part of it), etc., etc. All of that from the ones categorized as "adults." And the most frustrating part is that society has decided the driver has less rights than they do. Society has decided that the person operating the vehicle is not supposed to object to any of the things on that list. Your family's rule about not transporting them is a very wise rule, indeed!
@@dusty_sea330 there was not one word i can disagree with ya on lol youre alot tougher than i am because if i was supposed to only transport people id be facing life in prison likely by the end of my first shift lmao we have to put a stop to this notion that we as drivers matter less and are supposed to let these things happen while on or around our vehicles! Drive safe out there!
The best way to learn is from UA-cam making it fun. Idk why but whenever a teacher teaches me, it just gets so boring. But when I'm watching a history Channel or something I find it much more fascinating than what my teacher teaches me.
I was on a Westjet flight about 10 years ago and the flight crew in the cockpit and the flight attendants were trading comical barbs at each other over the intercom for the passengers... best one was from the Captain asking the passengers why there was flight attendants on board... after a few seconds he came over the intercom saying it was "because they can't fit coke machines through the door of the aircraft" Best damn flight i ever had, because that whole aircrew had us in stitches the whole flight...
I was moving and flying with my dog that was in a hold. I asked the flight attendant if she could peak in on my dog if she had time as it was first time for him being away from me as a new adopted dog and first time flyer.. Next time she came back, she said my dog had a message for me " bark bark bark." Got a few chuckles from few rows around....Best flight attendant ever.. Wrote a letter to the air line for thank you to her.. Would love to fly on the Westjet flight gmctech had!
Always thought it must be hard for a pilot to sit as a passenger and have someone else fly them when they're used to be in control of it all though:-)!
Why should he get all defensive and assholey? Just go on and ignore this type of people. You won't change their minds. These are the same people that think surgeons are butchers and dermatologists acnee healers. Not worth the bother.
The way I read the meme was ask The Pilot if he would ever fly commercially, knowing what his students are like (and the chance one of the pilots could’ve been like. one of his students)
The holding short meme would mean that ATC is preoccupied helping another Southwest flight that declared an emergency because someone got stuck in the restroom.
Ha ha ha uhm Southwest airlines flight 447 uhm we have Emergency a passenger is stuck in the restroom he is glued to the seat we need fire crew and ambulance and a power tool kit he is stuck
SW flight out of Cleveland: Tattooed guy gets in fight with guy seated behind him, tattoo guy insists space under his seat was for his stuff. Attendant corrects him before fists thrown. Once in air tattoo guy promptly goes in restroom and sets off smoke detector trying to get a puff. Authorities were waiting with cuffs at Midway.
I'd just like to share with you all and 74 Gear that this week that after a lot of hard work and dedication that I have successfully gained my pilots licence here in the UK , i am now the proud owner of an ATP License. "Ladies and Gentleman, welcome aboard"
I was a gate agent at MCO 5 years ago. These people are brutal when you tell them of a delay. They were pissed off, I really wanted to ask "do you really want to get on a plane that's leaking oil."
why not do it? Just, like, professionally, formally say: Sir/Madam, if you would like you could board the plane right now, the only problem is that it's leaking oil and might crash somewhere midway in your flight. If you could, please sign this liability form that states that you are aware of the defect and a high possibility of the plane crashing, and in an instance of the plane crashing you will not sue the company or anybody involved. Or, if you would like to choose a more comfortable option, would you let us fix the problem? I can assure you it wont take long.
PS: i can see that giving this "formal" treatment to every single Karen passenger would be a waste of time and energy, but, you know, just trying to help, if i can
@@NerdyCatCoffeeee they could twist your words and make a much bigger deal about it. They may even pursue legal actions against me or the airline. Plus, the airline would get a bad reputation if I they leak the news. Lol ppl don't understand how often planes breakdown. One time one of ours landed and we hand to go tow it from the runway to the gate
As for gate agents, I once saw a screaming salesman hurl one of those big chrome luggage carts at one in St. Louis in 1995 as we were flying home after our honeymoon. Watching security tackle him was so entertaining it almost made me forget I was miserable with the flu. Was a memorable trip for all the wrong reasons, but we’re still married.
@@David-ei5lq I didn’t know I was sick till I got half way through the first of two flights home from my honeymoon. St Louis was the hub we had to stop over at. We were broke so there weren’t a lot of options, we couldn’t afford to cancel and rebook. The tickets were a wedding present. And as I said, this was 1995. People were smoking and sneezing with abandon. I sat under a blanket with a fever.
I liked them all, but the one that stood out “do you have visual” many times: ATC: FVEK, you have traffic, two miles, opposite direction. ME: FVEK, looking A minute later, ME: FVEK, still looking ATC: Don’t worry, he’s way past you. Never saw him. . .
Bram Moerman I flew out of Biggin Hill once, the pilot wasn’t even looking for traffic 😱😱. Soooo many clouds with aircraft flying in them. I couldn’t believe it!!! How is there not more mid airs in the south of the UK. 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
yeah, a friend took me up in unrestricted 1500 and we passed 3 non-radio equipped Tiger Moths that we wouldn't have noticed if other planes hadnt warned us. Against houses planes turn invisible
ATC here, it really depends on the situation. Some will say ready, and I'll be like okay, cool. stay there for a bit while I deal with other planes on short final, other times I've completely forgotten the plane is holding short, and a reminder can be a good thing. realistically if you've been waiting a while, key up
On the subject of looking for traffic... I fly a gyro. Gyros can be near invisible even when you're only a thousand feet away from them. The most comforting thing I hear on the radio is, "Visual with the gyro."
Scott C - I had mine pushed out ready to fly when a heli landed at my home airfield and the pilots (we generally think of heli pilots as being the “cool guys”) walked past and stopped to examine my gyro, asking questions about how it flies, “I’ve never seen one in the flesh”, said one, “Can we look it over?”... I love moments like that. Gyros are definitely cool... if you can manage it, make sure that you get a two-place one because the joy of flight should be shared and I love having ballast that giggles like an excited school-girl and says, “Oh... This is cooooool...” - even when we’re only taxiing out to the runway...!!! ;)
About the "we're ready" to ATC, if it seems clear and nothing is going on on the radio and you get no clearance for line up, you bet we forgot about you. Ideally you should get that clearance before you have to slow your 400+ (metric) tonnes aircraft to hold short for nothing at all. It's both inconvenient for you and your fuel usage and it isn't very environmentally friendly. So if you're ever at my airport, saying something like "we're ready when reaching" is quite ok in my book
On the other hand: Don't be the dick to key up into a busy freq for your "still holding short Bravo 4". It's all about airmanship, on both sides of the radio.
@@QemeH I work in the FBO so I get to listen in on the tower frequency and I've heard a wide range of how pilots call up to ATC looking for clearance. If you call up and just say something like "(callsign) holding short of 24 via taxiway Alpha" then ATC is gonna take it a lot better than "Hey this is (callsign) holding short of the runway. Do you mind giving us clearance?" A simple reminder is enough, there's no need to be rude.
6:17: I interpreted the _flight instructor, would you fly commercially_ thing completely differently: The way I read that was, "Would you ever trust your life to your nincompoop former students working at the airlines?" I'm honestly not sure now if that's what was meant, or if your interpretation is what was intended.
Nah. It was someone who thinks flying commercially is the pinnacle of a pilot's career and therefore it's somehow revered as the point every pilot should shoot for and achieve if he/she is worthy of being called a pilot. Anything "less" must mean you just weren't good enough to fly commercially (not that someone could ever just not WANT to do so). That's the meme.
On my first solo I did 2 touch-and-goes with 2 beautiful landings. I came around the third time, and again, a perfect landing. I was _pissing excellence,_ *UNTIL,* after my third landing I started my right turn while rolling down the (paved) runway to head across the grass on the right side in order to get back and have my instructor tell me about how I was (by far) the best pilot he'd ever seen. (It was very obvious) However......that grass I went across also happened to be a grass runway, of course. A RUNWAY THAT WAS IN USE (of course)!! It didn't take very long to remember that however, because just as I headed across the grass I heard an amazingly loud roar, and I saw a huge shadow go over my aircraft on that beautiful, cloudless day. I went from "pissing excellence," to just pissing......in an instant. After getting the call on the radio to give the tower a call when I got back, I _really_ remembered everything. I remembered the beautiful yellow Stearman that had been coming in after me. A plane that I had seen dozens of times, and that *I KNEW was right behind me!!* I remembered the fact that the tower had told me to roll out to a full stop on the runway. I remembered acknowledging the instruction, and then doing a hard right turn about 1.3 seconds later. Yeah, there are some mistakes, that if you survive them, you absolutely will never make again, and I can honestly say that I never made that mistake again. I didn't need to, I came up with new mistakes. :-)
Hey Kelsey, just wanted to say you’re awesome for taking the time with that stressed out woman on the cancelled plane. You’re awesome for doing these videos, too. And that “not today”? If you’re ever in the neighborhood of The Netherlands my wife wants to drive over to get herself a selfie with you 100%
Remember the last time I flew in an airplane...luckily the pilot was visible when I boarded. As I passed him, smiled nervously and said, "Hope you're feeling good today". He laughed and said, "I'm feeling great ma'am!". Nice guy. It was awesome you helped out the staff at the desk. Take care, God bless.
The explanation for not showing your hotel view is hilarious 😂😂😂 Also, the one with folks jumping up when the plane isn't even at the gate yet...that is me 💯 drives me nuts that people do that. Really enjoy the meme videos because you explain everything. Awesome job!!
On the whole “are you going to ever fly commercially?” When coming from someone who doesn’t fly. It’s not them ‘throwing shade’ as the kids would say. What’s happening is when people think of a commercial pilot, they are thinking of something very specific ‘mainly the dude flying the plane when they visit there family during the holidays’ and not knowing that flying commercially is actually very broad ‘anyone flying for pay’
I was thinking about that after he told the story. It's actually kind of a brilliant idea on that woman's part since she can now prove to the company she was going for an interview with that missing it/being very late wasn't her fault. Perhaps that would get her another shot at taking the interview
@@themadhammer3305 One doesn't really need that, just take a photo with the departure board and show all canceled flights. No one is absurd and needs a photo with the pilots. What is the point? She just got crazy
Dude, when I absolutely butter the bread in X-Plane I strut around my house, bragging to my girlfriend with terminology she cares nothing about, and fantasizing about being the 'Hollywood hero' who gets into the cockpit and lands the plane after the pilots are incapacitated.
I think it’s really nice and refreshing to hear someone (you) being proud of the job that you do. I don’t know what you had go though to get to the position you are in, but I’m sure it was a long process. Great to see someone meet a life’s goal... are you content flying the 747, or do you want to fly something else for a while. I’m not a pilot so I don’t know the process or airline structure for advancement.
Always loved Aviation and although I have trepidation’s of flying, I tried to pursue the Air Force. Was told that the state I was attempting to join in, didn’t accept people without high school diplomas. All that said, I took my GED and became a CNC machinist. I’ve made parts for SpaceX that, you guessed it, went to space. Currently interviewing with GE Aviation so that I can be more directly involved with jet engines. Hopefully soon I’ll be making the parts that compose the engines you’re flying. Thanks for all your content, I love watching the videos and it keeps me excited/passionate about what I do.
74, my guy, I love how you use the bell thing to bleep out swear words!! also, I only started watching you a couple months ago but I really love your vids!!! keep it up!
This is a dream come trough. Having a pilot talking about everything you've always wanted to ask and know about flying. These youtube pilots have done more fore aviation than all the aviation and travel commercials put together.
First meme is sooo true. Anyone remembers the poor girl that lost her right landing gear after takeoff? Listening to her radio calls was heartbraking. Later at an interview she was soooo damn tall and proud. She surely should be though.
Hey Kelsey here is a couple 747 questions: 1. Is the staircase on the 8's the same as the 4's? 2. Why didn't Boeing keep the twisted staircase from the early series on the 4's? I personally think the twisted staircase is much cooler. 3. Does the 747-8's have carbon fibre to make them lighter? 4. Are the -8 engines bigger than 4's? Thanks for considering these man.
I can tell you the 747-8 is using Dreamliner engines (just 4 instead of just 2 of them) so yes, they are way bigger than on any former 747. Can't awnser the rest however
Another question I would have however: How is catering working for the 747 upper deck (when catering trucks are actually only loading the "normal" one)? Are there little elevators buildt in to get the food and stuff up?
For the carbon fiber question, no. The only carbon fiber on the 747-8 is in the engines and on parts of the wing, specifically the trailing edge and the raked wingtip.
Heh I thought it was the disturbance of the air making the cold water droplets condense off the plane into clouds from the wings. given that from the ground it looks like it comes more off the wingtips....
@@warailawildrunner5300 Vapor trails do form on wing tips with high velocity tight maneuvers. I think its the Venturi Effect where you have high velocity/low pressure air flow over the foil, just like when you release the pressure from a pressurized tank like a paintball gun, you get a high velocity stream of air and visible vapor, and then the metal fitting ices over. Perhaps the airplain vapor trails persist for such a long time because the vapor freezes in the cold high altitudes. That might explain why some trails can last for miles while others maybe only a few hundred meters. Differences in atmospheric conditions.
I can't put my finger on it but the 747 is definitely the best looking out of all commercial jets. I've only managed to fly as a passenger on 2 of them and even just being in one is special! :)
The weird thing is, I never flew in one. But I had the opportunity to help equipping one with a new VIP cabin for some wealthy customer. Maybe some day.
@@74gear I was lucky enough to fly on several 747-400's and 200's in the 90's. Flew on Air Canada CDG to YUL, Saudia from JFK to JED and RUH to BKK (all 400's). Also Cathay Pacific YVR to HKG on the 400 and HKG to SIN on the 200. Flew business class up top on the Cathay flights which was nice. Pretty neat seeing the staircase differences between the two aircraft types. Saudia's 747's were the worst flights. Minimal service on the airline and awful interiors with baaad entertainment systems. That said, I had always enjoyed flying on the 747.
A good buddy of mine is a retired UPS pilot and I am a retired passenger pilot. He was told once while trying to get through TSA and trying to get to the gate to jumpseat while in uniform and with ID. He needed a boarding pass to get through security. He told them he was jumpseating on flight 123. Answer he got back was "only commercial pilots can go through security without a boarding pass". Min rest :), I loved it when my airline decided we needed a class in crew fatigue. Then they taught us that flying during your circadian low around 2am was the most fatiguing time to be flying. I found it fairly amusing that they actually thought pilots who flew all night flights all the time needed to be told that being awake at a body clock time of around 2am is when you would be tired.
Non Pilot here: I was flying home from Dallas on a very small plane when the gate announced there would be at least an hour delay due to a tornado warning at our destination. A woman waiting went berserk and demanded that the plane take off as scheduled as she was coming back from spring break and just had to get back to college. I was wondering if her major was stupidity. The flight crew came by and briefed us and she blew up on the Captain. I spoke up and said " You take just as long as you need to feel safe about it. Don't worry about her, I am about to stuff a sock in her mouth!"
@@Channel4029 Yeah, I was on a flight out of Charlotte back in July 2014 that was delayed for several hours due to Hurricane Arthur passing through. It was just dumping buckets of rain and we weren't even close to the eye. People were upset about the delays and I was just thinking, "no, I'm cool with letting a HURRICANE pass before we take off."
@@Channel4029 Did Karen here even look out the window? Even if there wasn't a tornado on the ground, I can't imagine the weather there was any good anyway. They don't just throw those warnings around for nothing. Planes aren't magic, indestructible constructs either. They're just machines, with real limits. But of course, the world always revolves around Karen. Go ahead and speak to airline management, I'm sure they can magically change the weather or grant a temporary exemption from the laws of physics.
@@andrewsprojectsinnovations6352 the tornado warning was for the destination airport, not the departure airport. Looking out the window of the departure airport likely wouldn’t be relevant. Also, I have experienced a few times when my county was under a tornado warning, but the weather outside my window looked fine. That said, I can see how a tornado warning near some airport could have a domino effect as incoming flights are put in a holding pattern above the turbulent ground weather, creating a backlog of landings that will need to happen before the flight in question would get their chance to land. Might as well wait on the ground and save on fuel costs.
Being an auto mechanic I can sure relate! Sadly it's often what I hear the service advisor saying to the customer that bears little resemblance to the detailed explaination I just gave of the problem and the fix. 🤦♂️
Nobody disputes the essence of what you are saying. There is a huge difference between vapor that dissipates relatively quickly and the type that does NOT dissipate but grows in size and remains.
@@David-ei5lq When it's cold and relatively humid, the cloud won't re-evaporate, and in some cases, can change local conditions which can make the cloud grow even larger. It's not just the humidity from exhaust gas, either. There are pressure disturbances in the wake that can cause condensation from the ambient air.
@@eclectichoosier5474 Are you serious? At the flight levels (50 to 60k) those aircraft are typically flying, the only humidity is ICE! Any liquid water freezes before attaining those flight levels. Electrically charged ice particles can attract oppositely charged ice, but ordinary commercial jets do not fly 50-60k and do not throw off charged ice or water vapor. That is why commercial jet contrails evaporate rather than grow and enlarge.
@@David-ei5lq Water vapor can exist at low temperatures and pressures. It can even exist in what is otherwise vacuum. Ice sublimes constantly, even near absolute zero. It may happen extremely slowly, but it always happens. If deposition happens faster than sublimation, the ice grows. If slower, then it shrinks. Relative humidity (a somewhat complicated ratio of water vapor to air) plays a large part in determining this. Add in microscopic soot particles from an engine, or some other source of dust to act as nucleation points, and humidity can produce clouds of water or ice. With sudden disturbances in pressure, or sufficient turbulence, you may not even need the particulates. Also, condensation (or deposition) lowers humidity around whatever is collecting the vapor. That encourages any other particles around it which are more prone to losing water (slightly higher temperature, different phase, whatever) to evaporate and raise the humidity back to equilibrium. This is how snowflakes grow. It can happen at any altitude. It's just more likely at some than at others. A lot of factors influence this. Jets don't go to 50 - 60K very often. Military jets might, or possibly corporate jets, but not commercial jets. Some routinely get as high as 40 - 45K, but that's about as high as I've ever known them to go. The higher you go, the more stress there is on the skin of the aircraft. The more stress, the fewer cycles you get out of the aircraft before you have to decommission it or replace the skin (which is NOT an easy task.) For corporate jets, which don't fly as often, and aren't as sensitive to profitability, it's not a huge issue. But for airliners that are expected to make tens of thousands of trips, such high-altitude flying will reduce the lifespan of the aircraft enough to make a big difference. As to contrails - all you have to do is go outside and look up, to see that some of them grow. They certainly don't start out a mile wide, and as small as they start, diffusing over a mile would make them all but invisible.
@@eclectichoosier5474 Sorry, you are attempting to fly in areas devoid of physics. Let me guess. You are also an aficionado of dark matter as well. Sublimation is skipping from solid to vapor without passing through the liquid state and that is TOTALLY different from spraying liquids in a subzero environment.
@@mickys8065 without personally knowing the creator of the meme, I think it is probably safe to say that there are a few valid interpretations of it, depending on an individual’s personal experience giving them differing assumed context.
Re: chemtrails... "Next on 74Gear! Kelsey explains adiabatic layers and other advanced meteorological concepts in easy-to-understand terms!! Join us!" 😂🤣😂
I know a guy who is the captain of his own private jet. If he ever gets too sleepy to stay awake, he says to the co-pilot he's taking a quick nap. Of course only during cruising. He says the hum of the engines are hypnotic when you're sleepy.
Of course it's the agent's fault! Not having knowledge that is freely available to every other person is definitely the fault of the person who won't put in the effort to attain that knowledge.
@@davecarsley8773 freely available to someone who is free to use their smartphone anytime they feel like it. Gate agents may or may not have that particular luxury of freedom while on the clock.
@@tanya5322 Oh, stop it. No airline is going to stop a desk-working gate agent from touching their phone if they're doing it to help them do their job better. And besides, you don't need a smart phone to access this information. There's a thing called a PC. And the gate agent is sitting or standing in front of one nearly every minute of their shift.
Try flying as a passenger on a small-ish prop plane, where you can FEEL EVERY BIT of turbulence, island hopping in the Caribbean, then tell me that seventy-seater jet you got a ticket for is “kinda small”. (And those flights were the second and third flights I ever took, so I was figuratively pooping myself with anxiety.) On the plus side, that little airport on the island of St. Thomas was cool. You got the feeling of being in the rural tropics at night, like the plane just landed in the rushes, even though it was a real airstrip and everything.
@@74gear This leg is 14 hours to Dubai and my body is telling me it's midnight so sleep is a high priority! Can't say the same for the 12 infants on board... 😂 Help
Cassandra Cole: Oh jesus lm feeling your pain!! Im from Melbourne Australia and its a long haul to London.... made even longer by 12 infants. Safe travels!!
I once flew in a puddle jumper to go home for the weekend. Normally the flight was an hour, but it must have been the pilot's last flight of the day or something, because we arrived a whole 20 minutes early!
I enjoy your content immensely. Very watchable and informative. I think it is your modesty and self depreciation that makes your videos my guilty pleasure and it has helped me in no small way with my paralysing fear of flying. Best wishes from London UK
couple of years ago I was on an MD-80 and the passenger commented on how small the plane was, my reply was as follows, it weights 140000 pound max take off. the stunned silence for the rest of the flight was worth it.
I think it realy depends on the background you have. My first flight ever was with the A380 cross atlantic for a business trip... even though it didn't have more room for me as a passenger every other plane i've been on since felt somewhat small. Objectively i know that they are not small in any real sense, but i cannot shake that feeling.
Lol that second one.. aspecially when you realize some landing strips like at Schiphol Amsterdam... yeah that can be a 15-30 min taxi, over the over a highway and all the way around the airport.
Yes, rule number 1 as a passenger, Never annoy the Gate Agents or the Flight Attendants, in fact....if you can make their jobs easier, DO IT! Karma...comes back to those who are NICE! I've been "bumped" to First/Business class MANY times because I was NICE to the Gate Agents, and even a couple times IN FLIGHT by the Flight Attendants. Lady with the job interview, interesting take...grab a pic with the pilot who said we aren't flying. Wonder if she got the job? haha.
"747 is a iconic plane" - sure it is, but as a passenger, I enjoy the more modern and comfortable 787 that I ride often with United. I have to think that the 787 is more modern and nice to fly because of it.
@@BallChainGaming I don't mean those little single engine private planes. That's why I said 'small'. I mean ones like a 707 iirc that was the one I rode in a storm and the wings were flapping so much the guy alongside me refused to look when I pointed it out to him. I just checked it couldn't have been a 707 it was much smaller. It had two engines and with all seats installed it looked like it could seat about 20-24 passengers.
@@dannygjk a 707 is a 4 engine airliner from the 50s. It's pretty big. Sounds like you were on a turboprop regional plane. Last time I was on one of those I was 11 so I don't remember the wing behavior.
@@BallChainGaming You, " a 707 is a 4 engine airliner from the 50s. It's pretty big." Yes apparently you didn't read my whole comment. I said I checked it and, "I just checked it couldn't have been a 707 it was much smaller. It had two engines and with all seats installed it looked like it could seat about 20-24 passengers." Yes it was a prop aircraft probably not even pressurized for 8,000 feet.
I always took the "Would you ever fly commercial" question to be more "knowing what you know, do you trust big airlines?" which is a differently stupid question.
At least in Germany they hate it if you remind them that you're sitting there, holding short. You basically telling them, that they do a bad job. If you're sitting there for 4 minutes, some examples might be fud near the runway or a maintenance vehicle just finishing up work. They are very keen to reduce the latency for everybody, since that's how the management basically looks at the productivity of an airport - by avg delay of takeoffs/landings. Just some thoughts on that by a friend of mine who work on an international airport in Germany.
@@jamesdean2185 I understand that. I feel the issue is more that the controllers in the US do clear not only an approach but also give landing clearances, if there's still traffic on the runway. So just a short distraction might lead to such an incident. In Europe the landing clearance is only given after checking the runway visually (if possible) and with the ground radar, for exactly this reason.
@@RubenKelevra What? I did my radio operators certificate in Germany (VFR one, but still) and it is standard procedure to tell Tower "XXX Holding point RW 25L ready for departure" because obviously you have to run through before takeoff checks and Tower has no way of knowing whether youre done yet or whether youre even on their frequency yet. Telling Tower youre ready multiple times is a different story of course lol
@@Dudeisthere nice to hear another insight in that topic. I think the point was, you switched from ground to the tower, you're told him/her that you're ready for departure, and the response was "hold short". Then you wait for 4 minutes and wonder what's going on, since nobody took off or landed in the time you waited.
Actually, that picture with the pilot and radar was a good idea! I mean, knowing what you can and cannot control is an important part of any job! 🤣😂👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
I am retired ATC and a current pilot myself. The pilots that upset us key up and say "Still holding short" right after another plane has landed and isn't off the runway or fail to look out the window and see the guy on short final. In other news, yes we are sometimes busy/distracted and need a friendly reminder. Just make sure you have looked around and don't see a reason you may still be holding before calling.
One of my friends was in a language arts class (I can't remember what he said they were talking about but) and a kid says there weren't planes in WW1 and I'm like "boi watchu mean".
Kelsey you are hilarious. Good for you for looking out for your flight attendants and gate agents. Anyone who works with the public in any capacity knows what rude a$$holes people can be.
I remember, a looong time ago, on a Condor flight from Frankfurt to Dallas, we took off and there was a lot of turbulence... Dad joked it’s the co-pilot. We landed in Kansas City and the plane bounced and swayed three times I said Co-Pilot? Dad shook his head, no that was the Pilot, long flight, they change. We took off for Dallas, landed smooth, barely felt the landing... I smiled and said somebody learned, Dad said yeah, Stewardess.
As an ATC there are so many things that drive me crazy- Pilot of aircraft 1- “We are number one holding short at A1.” Meanwhile @74Gear is over the numbers right in front of him. ATC- You’ve got to be freaking kidding me! “Aircraft 2, can you take it from intersection A2? Aircraft 1 has a short delay”
My dad is a cargo pilot. He jokes all the time that he loves not having to deal with people. Cargo doesn’t talk back! So I don’t understand the whole commercial pilot jab that you guys experience. He makes bank, so again, I don’t understand that. Love your videos!!
People who know nothing on Aviation always 😂 Just was sitting near to some girls who I guess had their First flight ever a few months ago. We were just regulary departing and they were so scared already. I was just saying loudely "Hmm, this doesn't seems normal..., guess the engines are having problems" I had some fun.... 😂
I remember there was some experimental initiative where you would be "texting" ATC instead of talking to them on the radio. Gues the experiment didn't pan out, because you pretty much talk to them over the radio or call them on the phone.
ATC: *clear for takeoff* Pilot: *clear for takeoff* *A few minutes later just before handing the plane off to departure center* Pilot: one more thing......*Holding short* (changes channel) ATC: YOU SON OF A B--
I’m a gate agent for a major airline, and sometimes the pilots will come hang out at the gate. They usually last about 3-5 minutes before having to leave, to get away from the stupidity 🤣
*Kelsey:* How could you not find a plane?
*Malaysian airlines:* Sweating profusely
#top_comment_god
You a pro at plane spotting from a pilots pov?
Not only malaysia who cant find the plane. A lot of countries trying to find the plane too and still cannot be found...
Bro.. wut.. 😂
The sky is TOO DAMN BIG
Advantages of Cargo vs Passenger:
1. Crates don't talk back...
Crates don't * talk *
Extrovert problems
If they do begin talking, it is big problem. Literally, and figuratively.
If they begin making noises, gotta check em for the box bugs
@@dbclass4075 Especially if your not transporting bodies.
And if they snort you may have a Spycrab infestation and need to call in the estimator
ATC here, there are times when there vehicle crossings or FOD collection going on requiring a perceived prolonged holding. Also a possible phone call about an aircraft may result in a slight delay while we try to resolve any issue before letting the aircraft depart, in the event a return to the gate is necessary. I will say, in my experience, that it is very rare that a holding for departure is forgotten about. There is the possibility that a pilot has annoyed the controller and a slight delay may be imposed on said pilot but I cannot confirm nor deny ever participating in such actions.
The dreaded penalty box lol
Annoy ATC and you are grounded. Literally! 🙂
Love the disclaimer. 😂
...to Kelsey?
I'm a 3rd generation truck driver and my family has one big rule: NEVER haul freight that talks back or throw things
@@cataha ever heard jet lag and getting infected by uv Ray's and unusual time shift for job...most stressfully job? Ok you just sitting on chair 9-5 doing the job most people doing?
@@cataha don't act like kid? Keyboard warrier?
As someone with a CDL who DOES transport the cargo that talks back, you and your family have made a very wise choice! It's not just talking back and throwing things; it's also spitting at you, punching you, stabbing you, shooting at you, defecating/urinating inside of your vehicle, refusing to leave at the end of your workday, starting fights with the rest of the cargo, screaming at you for being allowed a 10 minute break within your workday, filming everything you do on their phones, leaving hazardous chemicals & syringes on your vehicle, committing crimes (like drug deals) on your vehicle or leaving the evidence of their crimes (like piles of security tags) on your vehicle, refusing to allow you to park in order to use a restroom, defacing your vehicle with graffiti, groping you (regardless of gender), going beyond not wearing a mask and being unsanitary by also purposefully coughing directly at your face during a pandemic, screaming at you for not agreeing to be put into a preventable accident situation (the higher their chance of death would have been, the angrier they become at you saying "no" to being part of it), etc., etc.
All of that from the ones categorized as "adults."
And the most frustrating part is that society has decided the driver has less rights than they do. Society has decided that the person operating the vehicle is not supposed to object to any of the things on that list. Your family's rule about not transporting them is a very wise rule, indeed!
@@dusty_sea330 there was not one word i can disagree with ya on lol youre alot tougher than i am because if i was supposed to only transport people id be facing life in prison likely by the end of my first shift lmao we have to put a stop to this notion that we as drivers matter less and are supposed to let these things happen while on or around our vehicles! Drive safe out there!
I’ve been driving truck for over 20 years, you couldn’t pay me enough to drive bus!
“Saint Stella” reporting for duty! 🙋🏽♀️😆
Omg Stella!!!!
Hello! How are you?
Soooooo.... that first meme is made after you, isn"t it? :)
Your amazing Stella!
Hi Stella!👋🏻
I’m a military controller.hell yes we will definitely hold you if you keep reminding us you’re holding short like we can’t do our jobs lol.
😭😭💀
Man. I love the military. I want to join the us marines but i live in norway. Love u service
Btw: thanks for all the comments
@@theraggarman152 i believes us permanent residents can join the militiary
@@theraggarman152 just join the Norwigian Military
@@rtone2805 Yhea. If i was 18
First it was Dr. Mike.
Then it was Legal Eagle.
And now here I am watching an airline pilot youtuber.
My arsenal of knowledge is coming along nicely.
Sounds like we’ve taken similar paths
The best way to learn is from UA-cam making it fun. Idk why but whenever a teacher teaches me, it just gets so boring. But when I'm watching a history Channel or something I find it much more fascinating than what my teacher teaches me.
Too bad Dr Mike ended up being a raging hypocrite
Me in s nutshell
For me it was Captain Joe, but yea
I was on a Westjet flight about 10 years ago and the flight crew in the cockpit and the flight attendants were trading comical barbs at each other over the intercom for the passengers... best one was from the Captain asking the passengers why there was flight attendants on board... after a few seconds he came over the intercom saying it was "because they can't fit coke machines through the door of the aircraft" Best damn flight i ever had, because that whole aircrew had us in stitches the whole flight...
gmctech thats a good joke. Lol
I was moving and flying with my dog that was in a hold. I asked the flight attendant if she could peak in on my dog if she had time as it was first time for him being away from me as a new adopted dog and first time flyer.. Next time she came back, she said my dog had a message for me " bark bark bark." Got a few chuckles from few rows around....Best flight attendant ever.. Wrote a letter to the air line for thank you to her.. Would love to fly on the Westjet flight gmctech had!
@@jonathanbair523 Today, I would include a nanny-cam in the crate.
You, Mentour Pilot, and Captain Joe should sit together with some pint of beer and talk. Would love that haha
Except that Captain Joe ain’t a captain. . . not yet.
@@dewiz9596 I thought Kelsie was also a first officer.
I'd pay to see that.
74 gear and Captain Joe is much better than Mentaur.
@@artz9643 I see that you have developed an opinion
One more: low cost airline attendant: “coffe or tea”? Passenger: “tea”. Attendant: “wrong answer”. 😆😂🤣
Remember TWA? They used to call their coffee; TWA coffee. What did they call their tea?
@Carpet Hooligan Say it out loud.
@Carpet Hooligan You're an angry little twat. Aren't ya?
@@toemblem lol
grass clipping tea, now only 1.99
6:38 " Would you ever fly commercially?"
The correct responce would be:
"To meet more people like you? No thanks."
Always thought it must be hard for a pilot to sit as a passenger and have someone else fly them when they're used to be in control of it all though:-)!
Or i fly _____ what do you fly?
Why should he get all defensive and assholey? Just go on and ignore this type of people. You won't change their minds. These are the same people that think surgeons are butchers and dermatologists acnee healers. Not worth the bother.
I feel like maybe pilots take that as a jab when many people probably don't mean it that way.
The way I read the meme was ask The Pilot if he would ever fly commercially, knowing what his students are like (and the chance one of the pilots could’ve been like. one of his students)
Fight attendants are like the nurses in hospitals. Under appreciated.
So you’re confirming that the white lines behind a planes are from the pilots vaping.
lol
VAPE NATION! ::Cue Trap Music 🎵
Welllllllllll,yer not wrong...
@@spacedmanspiff1543 Wellllllllll, he is...
"They’re not chemtrails"…of course, that’s what people in the industry WANT you to believe…
The holding short meme would mean that ATC is preoccupied helping another Southwest flight that declared an emergency because someone got stuck in the restroom.
Ha ha ha uhm Southwest airlines flight 447 uhm we have Emergency a passenger is stuck in the restroom he is glued to the seat we need fire crew and ambulance and a power tool kit he is stuck
@@ericarodriguez5005 rip
SW flight out of Cleveland: Tattooed guy gets in fight with guy seated behind him, tattoo guy insists space under his seat was for his stuff. Attendant corrects him before fists thrown. Once in air tattoo guy promptly goes in restroom and sets off smoke detector trying to get a puff. Authorities were waiting with cuffs at Midway.
I thought that was United not Southwest?
@@wolfsrule100 I don't remember it being on news. I was in the flight around 1990 or so.
I'd just like to share with you all and 74 Gear that this week that after a lot of hard work and dedication that I have successfully gained my pilots licence here in the UK , i am now the proud owner of an ATP License. "Ladies and Gentleman, welcome aboard"
Bullshit
Good luck, congratulations :)
I was a gate agent at MCO 5 years ago. These people are brutal when you tell them of a delay. They were pissed off, I really wanted to ask "do you really want to get on a plane that's leaking oil."
why not do it? Just, like, professionally, formally say:
Sir/Madam, if you would like you could board the plane right now, the only problem is that it's leaking oil and might crash somewhere midway in your flight. If you could, please sign this liability form that states that you are aware of the defect and a high possibility of the plane crashing, and in an instance of the plane crashing you will not sue the company or anybody involved. Or, if you would like to choose a more comfortable option, would you let us fix the problem? I can assure you it wont take long.
PS: i can see that giving this "formal" treatment to every single Karen passenger would be a waste of time and energy, but, you know, just trying to help, if i can
@@NerdyCatCoffeeee they could twist your words and make a much bigger deal about it. They may even pursue legal actions against me or the airline. Plus, the airline would get a bad reputation if I they leak the news. Lol ppl don't understand how often planes breakdown. One time one of ours landed and we hand to go tow it from the runway to the gate
@@theconversation5574 you do have a very good point
I got my ass kicked by MCO today. You guys order too much shit on the internet.
Mach .85 ...
Concorde "am I a joke to you?"
Unauthorized
Unlikely Tesla will ever do that they don’t have the capital
SR-71 to Concorde, you are to me. Anyway, that Concorde flys at zero knots today. Sits at zero knots.
Though Jumbo is one of the fastest commercial jets that fly today.
@@nawafj1741 SpaceXTelsa collab when? hehe
CodeAsm
Wdym?
Love at 9:49 when Kelsey goes to say “j**king off” but changes quick 😂
As for gate agents, I once saw a screaming salesman hurl one of those big chrome luggage carts at one in St. Louis in 1995 as we were flying home after our honeymoon. Watching security tackle him was so entertaining it almost made me forget I was miserable with the flu. Was a memorable trip for all the wrong reasons, but we’re still married.
I’m sure all the people on that flight were later thanking you for sharing your flu.
@@David-ei5lq I didn’t know I was sick till I got half way through the first of two flights home from my honeymoon. St Louis was the hub we had to stop over at. We were broke so there weren’t a lot of options, we couldn’t afford to cancel and rebook. The tickets were a wedding present. And as I said, this was 1995. People were smoking and sneezing with abandon. I sat under a blanket with a fever.
@@Pixiel711 Believe me I understand your predicament. Glad to hear you’re still married.
When your girlfriend says "we need to talk", it's a master caution but you can't push to reset!
I liked them all, but the one that stood out “do you have visual” many times:
ATC: FVEK, you have traffic, two miles, opposite direction.
ME: FVEK, looking
A minute later,
ME: FVEK, still looking
ATC: Don’t worry, he’s way past you.
Never saw him. . .
Same! I flew today, and my instructor pointed out another airplane. I'm still looking for it! At least I can see the airport!😂
Bram Moerman I flew out of Biggin Hill once, the pilot wasn’t even looking for traffic 😱😱. Soooo many clouds with aircraft flying in them. I couldn’t believe it!!! How is there not more mid airs in the south of the UK. 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
yeah, a friend took me up in unrestricted 1500 and we passed 3 non-radio equipped Tiger Moths that we wouldn't have noticed if other planes hadnt warned us. Against houses planes turn invisible
I swear ADS-B only made this worse. ATC warns you of traffic, I see them on Foreflight, I know exactly where to look, and I *still* can't find them.
Here's the one I get. When people find out I'm the FO, they ask when I'm going to become a pilot...
"I ask the same question," is your reply? lol
@Ash J First Officer
@Tamara K the co-pilot/first officer
The FOs I've met with 15+ yrs at the same airline have purposely not become captains b/c it would significanty affect their family life and dynamic.
I figured FO meant F*** Off
ATC here, it really depends on the situation. Some will say ready, and I'll be like okay, cool. stay there for a bit while I deal with other planes on short final, other times I've completely forgotten the plane is holding short, and a reminder can be a good thing. realistically if you've been waiting a while, key up
Im not even flying a plane, but was looking for your answer. Have a pleasent day 🤗🛩
On the subject of looking for traffic...
I fly a gyro.
Gyros can be near invisible even when you're only a thousand feet away from them.
The most comforting thing I hear on the radio is, "Visual with the gyro."
I've seriously considered getting an autogyro for years, reading your comment reminded me just how much I'd like to get one.
Scott C - It is an awesome way to fly... as long as you don’t need to get anywhere in a hurry.
@@RoadRunnerLaser that's definitely the idea. I'd like to have something to fly just for enjoyment. And gyros are cool.
Scott C - I had mine pushed out ready to fly when a heli landed at my home airfield and the pilots (we generally think of heli pilots as being the “cool guys”) walked past and stopped to examine my gyro, asking questions about how it flies, “I’ve never seen one in the flesh”, said one, “Can we look it over?”... I love moments like that.
Gyros are definitely cool... if you can manage it, make sure that you get a two-place one because the joy of flight should be shared and I love having ballast that giggles like an excited school-girl and says, “Oh... This is cooooool...” - even when we’re only taxiing out to the runway...!!! ;)
@@RoadRunnerLaser that's definitely the idea for me too. The RC's i fly now are only fun for the pilot.
About the "we're ready" to ATC, if it seems clear and nothing is going on on the radio and you get no clearance for line up, you bet we forgot about you. Ideally you should get that clearance before you have to slow your 400+ (metric) tonnes aircraft to hold short for nothing at all. It's both inconvenient for you and your fuel usage and it isn't very environmentally friendly. So if you're ever at my airport, saying something like "we're ready when reaching" is quite ok in my book
That is a Nordic name, if I've ever seen one.
@@toemblem you sir, are correct
We have Thors, Olavs, Lars and Leifs in my family.
On the other hand: Don't be the dick to key up into a busy freq for your "still holding short Bravo 4". It's all about airmanship, on both sides of the radio.
@@QemeH I work in the FBO so I get to listen in on the tower frequency and I've heard a wide range of how pilots call up to ATC looking for clearance.
If you call up and just say something like "(callsign) holding short of 24 via taxiway Alpha" then ATC is gonna take it a lot better than "Hey this is (callsign) holding short of the runway. Do you mind giving us clearance?" A simple reminder is enough, there's no need to be rude.
6:17: I interpreted the _flight instructor, would you fly commercially_ thing completely differently: The way I read that was, "Would you ever trust your life to your nincompoop former students working at the airlines?"
I'm honestly not sure now if that's what was meant, or if your interpretation is what was intended.
Given the bottom picture, I think your interpretation is clearly accurate.
Yes... I read it in a similar way... Not, "Would you ever fly a commercial airliner?" but "Would you fly ON a commercial airliner?"
@@RoadRunnerLaser yea like someone asking a restaurant employee would you eat there?, hell no.
Nah. It was someone who thinks flying commercially is the pinnacle of a pilot's career and therefore it's somehow revered as the point every pilot should shoot for and achieve if he/she is worthy of being called a pilot. Anything "less" must mean you just weren't good enough to fly commercially (not that someone could ever just not WANT to do so). That's the meme.
This is an example of Positional Bias or a different point of view. A passenger would interpret the meaning different than a 747 pilot would.
On my first solo I did 2 touch-and-goes with 2 beautiful landings. I came around the third time, and again, a perfect landing. I was _pissing excellence,_ *UNTIL,* after my third landing I started my right turn while rolling down the (paved) runway to head across the grass on the right side in order to get back and have my instructor tell me about how I was (by far) the best pilot he'd ever seen. (It was very obvious) However......that grass I went across also happened to be a grass runway, of course. A RUNWAY THAT WAS IN USE (of course)!! It didn't take very long to remember that however, because just as I headed across the grass I heard an amazingly loud roar, and I saw a huge shadow go over my aircraft on that beautiful, cloudless day. I went from "pissing excellence," to just pissing......in an instant.
After getting the call on the radio to give the tower a call when I got back, I _really_ remembered everything. I remembered the beautiful yellow Stearman that had been coming in after me. A plane that I had seen dozens of times, and that *I KNEW was right behind me!!* I remembered the fact that the tower had told me to roll out to a full stop on the runway. I remembered acknowledging the instruction, and then doing a hard right turn about 1.3 seconds later.
Yeah, there are some mistakes, that if you survive them, you absolutely will never make again, and I can honestly say that I never made that mistake again. I didn't need to, I came up with new mistakes. :-)
"Would you ever fly commercially?"
Kelsey: "I fly a 747...what do you fly?"
*silence*
You fly commercially? Will you ever fly a Blackbird?
You're a Blackbird pilot? Would you ever fly a spacecraft?
If you fly a spacecraft would you fly up oshit that's the last thing ever
@@sharpfang You fly a spaceship? Will you ever fly the TARDIS?
The joke is would you trust them to fly you around.
I fly locomotives. These memes could be converted to railroad memes easily.
Props for being respectful to those girls! I wish more men were like you.
Try being an ATC in Microsoft Flight Simulator X: Steam Edition.
Taxi to alpha charlie five niner hold short mike alpha then zulu papa seven four left bravo two full readback required
Lmfao I've seen airforceproud95 try it. He just gives up every time...
Ah so this session is cancer it's Everyman for himself *unintelligible garbage*
The hot air balloon pilots are intense
John Adler You mean Air95proudforce?
It is weird how some passengers think the airline has any control of the weather.
What? You mean they _don't?_ Wtf do they do with all that money then??🤣🤣🤣
They do! It's those damn chem trails they spray that causes thunder storms!
I mean a plane can probably cause some rain to leak from the clouds.... right?
"That's the struggle you make. As you go through your career, it seems like no matter what you do, it's never good enough."
Welcome to motherhood.
You definitely need to do a "10 things that drive ATC crazy" video with Kennedy Steve!
Yeah he should
you're sub to RealATC right? It's pandemonium over there sometimes
Agreed!
Yeah! Do it, Kelsey!
"Would you fly commercial?"
"Nah, ****** people. I just wanna fly"
Hey Kelsey, just wanted to say you’re awesome for taking the time with that stressed out woman on the cancelled plane. You’re awesome for doing these videos, too. And that “not today”? If you’re ever in the neighborhood of The Netherlands my wife wants to drive over to get herself a selfie with you 100%
Remember the last time I flew in an airplane...luckily the pilot was visible when I boarded. As I passed him, smiled nervously and said, "Hope you're feeling good today". He laughed and said, "I'm feeling great ma'am!". Nice guy. It was awesome you helped out the staff at the desk. Take care, God bless.
Aw, that was so sweet what you did for that passenger with the photo and the weather radar!!!! You're such a nice guy!
The explanation for not showing your hotel view is hilarious 😂😂😂 Also, the one with folks jumping up when the plane isn't even at the gate yet...that is me 💯 drives me nuts that people do that. Really enjoy the meme videos because you explain everything. Awesome job!!
I love the fact you used a Fasten Seatbelt beep as a censor. That's genius.
The jab about the regional jet cracked me up!! A _40-seater_ regional jet is small - a 70-seater is *_HUGE_* for a regional jet!!
On the whole “are you going to ever fly commercially?” When coming from someone who doesn’t fly. It’s not them ‘throwing shade’ as the kids would say. What’s happening is when people think of a commercial pilot, they are thinking of something very specific ‘mainly the dude flying the plane when they visit there family during the holidays’ and not knowing that flying commercially is actually very broad ‘anyone flying for pay’
you're a classy guy for agreeing to take a photo with the lady her missed her job interview. many pilots would be like GTFO of here
I was thinking about that after he told the story. It's actually kind of a brilliant idea on that woman's part since she can now prove to the company she was going for an interview with that missing it/being very late wasn't her fault. Perhaps that would get her another shot at taking the interview
@@themadhammer3305 One doesn't really need that, just take a photo with the departure board and show all canceled flights. No one is absurd and needs a photo with the pilots. What is the point? She just got crazy
@@potocatepetl but posing with a pilot just gives that extra air of authority 👍🏽
Dude, when I absolutely butter the bread in X-Plane I strut around my house, bragging to my girlfriend with terminology she cares nothing about, and fantasizing about being the 'Hollywood hero' who gets into the cockpit and lands the plane after the pilots are incapacitated.
I think it’s really nice and refreshing to hear someone (you) being proud of the job that you do. I don’t know what you had go though to get to the position you are in, but I’m sure it was a long process. Great to see someone meet a life’s goal... are you content flying the 747, or do you want to fly something else for a while. I’m not a pilot so I don’t know the process or airline structure for advancement.
Always loved Aviation and although I have trepidation’s of flying, I tried to pursue the Air Force. Was told that the state I was attempting to join in, didn’t accept people without high school diplomas. All that said, I took my GED and became a CNC machinist. I’ve made parts for SpaceX that, you guessed it, went to space. Currently interviewing with GE Aviation so that I can be more directly involved with jet engines. Hopefully soon I’ll be making the parts that compose the engines you’re flying. Thanks for all your content, I love watching the videos and it keeps me excited/passionate about what I do.
74, my guy, I love how you use the bell thing to bleep out swear words!! also, I only started watching you a couple months ago but I really love your vids!!! keep it up!
This is a dream come trough. Having a pilot talking about everything you've always wanted to ask and know about flying.
These youtube pilots have done more fore aviation than all the aviation and travel commercials put together.
First meme is sooo true. Anyone remembers the poor girl that lost her right landing gear after takeoff? Listening to her radio calls was heartbraking. Later at an interview she was soooo damn tall and proud. She surely should be though.
Hey Kelsey here is a couple 747 questions:
1. Is the staircase on the 8's the same as the 4's?
2. Why didn't Boeing keep the twisted staircase from the early series on the 4's? I personally think the twisted staircase is much cooler.
3. Does the 747-8's have carbon fibre to make them lighter?
4. Are the -8 engines bigger than 4's?
Thanks for considering these man.
I can tell you the 747-8 is using Dreamliner engines (just 4 instead of just 2 of them) so yes, they are way bigger than on any former 747. Can't awnser the rest however
Another question I would have however: How is catering working for the 747 upper deck (when catering trucks are actually only loading the "normal" one)? Are there little elevators buildt in to get the food and stuff up?
I know the -8s have some carbon fiber, which obviously makes them lighter. And yes, I think the -8 engines are a little bigger than the -400 engines.
For the carbon fiber question, no. The only carbon fiber on the 747-8 is in the engines and on parts of the wing, specifically the trailing edge and the raked wingtip.
@@user-sd7ms3sy9q Correct you are!
To anybody wondering,
The whitelines are water vapor from the engines
In a nutshell. Low pressure in high altitude + High pressure engine exhaust = Vapor
Heh I thought it was the disturbance of the air making the cold water droplets condense off the plane into clouds from the wings. given that from the ground it looks like it comes more off the wingtips....
@@warailawildrunner5300 Vapor trails do form on wing tips with high velocity tight maneuvers. I think its the Venturi Effect where you have high velocity/low pressure air flow over the foil, just like when you release the pressure from a pressurized tank like a paintball gun, you get a high velocity stream of air and visible vapor, and then the metal fitting ices over. Perhaps the airplain vapor trails persist for such a long time because the vapor freezes in the cold high altitudes. That might explain why some trails can last for miles while others maybe only a few hundred meters. Differences in atmospheric conditions.
@@warailawildrunner5300 The combustion of the fuel has water as one of the chemical compounds produced.
Yeah, yeah, that's what you WANT us to think right? Right?
Someone with no experience with Avalon: talking about aircrafts.
Me a former air cadet: cringing a every incorrect fact coming out of there mouth
The pilots of both planes: WE GUNNA RACE WITH OUR PASSENGERS
G-forces: Am I a joke to you?
I can't put my finger on it but the 747 is definitely the best looking out of all commercial jets. I've only managed to fly as a passenger on 2 of them and even just being in one is special! :)
ya I finallllyyyy got to fly as a passenger in one just a couple months ago, was very cool.
I've flown on 747 from Amsterdam to Niarobi and it was very cool! It felt special from the time I entered the plane til exit.
The weird thing is, I never flew in one. But I had the opportunity to help equipping one with a new VIP cabin for some wealthy customer.
Maybe some day.
@@74gear I was lucky enough to fly on several 747-400's and 200's in the 90's. Flew on Air Canada CDG to YUL, Saudia from JFK to JED and RUH to BKK (all 400's). Also Cathay Pacific YVR to HKG on the 400 and HKG to SIN on the 200. Flew business class up top on the Cathay flights which was nice. Pretty neat seeing the staircase differences between the two aircraft types. Saudia's 747's were the worst flights. Minimal service on the airline and awful interiors with baaad entertainment systems. That said, I had always enjoyed flying on the 747.
I flew on a BA 744 from Heathrow to Sky Harbor and it was the best flight ever! Barely felt anything on the landing it was that soft!
I'm so glad that you got to fly the aircraft of your dreams! Nice, friendly people deserve the best. Unfortunately, it happens rarely.
A good buddy of mine is a retired UPS pilot and I am a retired passenger pilot. He was told once while trying to get through TSA and trying to get to the gate to jumpseat while in uniform and with ID. He needed a boarding pass to get through security. He told them he was jumpseating on flight 123. Answer he got back was "only commercial pilots can go through security without a boarding pass".
Min rest :), I loved it when my airline decided we needed a class in crew fatigue. Then they taught us that flying during your circadian low around 2am was the most fatiguing time to be flying. I found it fairly amusing that they actually thought pilots who flew all night flights all the time needed to be told that being awake at a body clock time of around 2am is when you would be tired.
As a freighter mechanic, I liked the hours. The planes flew at night, we worked on them in the daytime. Nice to go home at night
Ya that’s a pretty easy schedule
How can people expect a plane to fly when even the birds walk.
Non Pilot here: I was flying home from Dallas on a very small plane when the gate announced there would be at least an hour delay due to a tornado warning at our destination. A woman waiting went berserk and demanded that the plane take off as scheduled as she was coming back from spring break and just had to get back to college. I was wondering if her major was stupidity. The flight crew came by and briefed us and she blew up on the Captain. I spoke up and said " You take just as long as you need to feel safe about it. Don't worry about her, I am about to stuff a sock in her mouth!"
@@Channel4029 thats definetly a karen
@@Channel4029 Yeah, I was on a flight out of Charlotte back in July 2014 that was delayed for several hours due to Hurricane Arthur passing through. It was just dumping buckets of rain and we weren't even close to the eye. People were upset about the delays and I was just thinking, "no, I'm cool with letting a HURRICANE pass before we take off."
@@Channel4029 Did Karen here even look out the window? Even if there wasn't a tornado on the ground, I can't imagine the weather there was any good anyway. They don't just throw those warnings around for nothing. Planes aren't magic, indestructible constructs either. They're just machines, with real limits.
But of course, the world always revolves around Karen. Go ahead and speak to airline management, I'm sure they can magically change the weather or grant a temporary exemption from the laws of physics.
@@andrewsprojectsinnovations6352 the tornado warning was for the destination airport, not the departure airport. Looking out the window of the departure airport likely wouldn’t be relevant.
Also, I have experienced a few times when my county was under a tornado warning, but the weather outside my window looked fine.
That said, I can see how a tornado warning near some airport could have a domino effect as incoming flights are put in a holding pattern above the turbulent ground weather, creating a backlog of landings that will need to happen before the flight in question would get their chance to land. Might as well wait on the ground and save on fuel costs.
Ha ha! Veterinarians do the "do I bother correcting the public" thing too! I usually don't unless they're saying something dangerous.
ya sometimes you just have to bite your tongue its not worth it.
It's just as bad being an Architect. Lehmans' have terrible taste for good design.
Nursing checking in. Good day everyone. @74 gear keep The line in sinus isn't nearly as good as keep the blue side up. I'll keep working on it. Lol
Being an auto mechanic I can sure relate! Sadly it's often what I hear the service advisor saying to the customer that bears little resemblance to the detailed explaination I just gave of the problem and the fix. 🤦♂️
@@craigstephens93 - My last name is Lehman and I do have good taste for design. I think you meant to say "Layman" :)
I love how one of the options on the wheel of "today's flight delay" is "who knows" 🤣
If plane jet engines work ANYTHING like a car engine, when the exhaust gets rapidly cooled it looks white
Nobody disputes the essence of what you are saying. There is a huge difference between vapor that dissipates relatively quickly and the type that does NOT dissipate but grows in size and remains.
@@David-ei5lq When it's cold and relatively humid, the cloud won't re-evaporate, and in some cases, can change local conditions which can make the cloud grow even larger.
It's not just the humidity from exhaust gas, either. There are pressure disturbances in the wake that can cause condensation from the ambient air.
@@eclectichoosier5474 Are you serious? At the flight levels (50 to 60k) those aircraft are typically flying, the only humidity is ICE! Any liquid water freezes before attaining those flight levels. Electrically charged ice particles can attract oppositely charged ice, but ordinary commercial jets do not fly 50-60k and do not throw off charged ice or water vapor. That is why commercial jet contrails evaporate rather than grow and enlarge.
@@David-ei5lq Water vapor can exist at low temperatures and pressures. It can even exist in what is otherwise vacuum. Ice sublimes constantly, even near absolute zero. It may happen extremely slowly, but it always happens. If deposition happens faster than sublimation, the ice grows. If slower, then it shrinks. Relative humidity (a somewhat complicated ratio of water vapor to air) plays a large part in determining this.
Add in microscopic soot particles from an engine, or some other source of dust to act as nucleation points, and humidity can produce clouds of water or ice. With sudden disturbances in pressure, or sufficient turbulence, you may not even need the particulates.
Also, condensation (or deposition) lowers humidity around whatever is collecting the vapor. That encourages any other particles around it which are more prone to losing water (slightly higher temperature, different phase, whatever) to evaporate and raise the humidity back to equilibrium. This is how snowflakes grow.
It can happen at any altitude. It's just more likely at some than at others. A lot of factors influence this.
Jets don't go to 50 - 60K very often. Military jets might, or possibly corporate jets, but not commercial jets. Some routinely get as high as 40 - 45K, but that's about as high as I've ever known them to go.
The higher you go, the more stress there is on the skin of the aircraft. The more stress, the fewer cycles you get out of the aircraft before you have to decommission it or replace the skin (which is NOT an easy task.)
For corporate jets, which don't fly as often, and aren't as sensitive to profitability, it's not a huge issue. But for airliners that are expected to make tens of thousands of trips, such high-altitude flying will reduce the lifespan of the aircraft enough to make a big difference.
As to contrails - all you have to do is go outside and look up, to see that some of them grow. They certainly don't start out a mile wide, and as small as they start, diffusing over a mile would make them all but invisible.
@@eclectichoosier5474 Sorry, you are attempting to fly in areas devoid of physics. Let me guess. You are also an aficionado of dark matter as well. Sublimation is skipping from solid to vapor without passing through the liquid state and that is TOTALLY different from spraying liquids in a subzero environment.
At 6:10 the meme background matches up to the door in the background. Coincidence? I think not.
Flight instructors do fly commercially 😂 they have a commercial certificate and get paid to fly so.....commercial pilot 😂
I think the real question was whether they flew with us commoners or if they flew on private planes everywhere.
The meme is meant to be would they fly _on_ commercial flights having taught the pilot how to fly, basically would they trust the pilot
@@mickys8065 without personally knowing the creator of the meme, I think it is probably safe to say that there are a few valid interpretations of it, depending on an individual’s personal experience giving them differing assumed context.
Re: chemtrails... "Next on 74Gear! Kelsey explains adiabatic layers and other advanced meteorological concepts in easy-to-understand terms!! Join us!" 😂🤣😂
Boeing: who are you
Airbus: im you but european
I always thought the “chem trails” were rockets heading to space.
pf
It would've been cool if it were true tho.
I thought the same thing tbh
My cousins still think those smokes are from rockets 😅
Census same
6:18 - The meme means "Would you ever fly a plane being flown by one of your students?"
I know a guy who is the captain of his own private jet. If he ever gets too sleepy to stay awake, he says to the co-pilot he's taking a quick nap. Of course only during cruising. He says the hum of the engines are hypnotic when you're sleepy.
6:58 Man, you are so priviledged to be an pilot and even more to fly the queen of the skies. Keep the fire burning🤗
The best vaccine are memes here are reasons.
1. It doesn't hurt.
2. It is funny.
3. You love it.
When FlightAware knows more than the gate agent... often it’s true, and it’s not the agent’s fault!
Of course it's the agent's fault! Not having knowledge that is freely available to every other person is definitely the fault of the person who won't put in the effort to attain that knowledge.
@@davecarsley8773 freely available to someone who is free to use their smartphone anytime they feel like it. Gate agents may or may not have that particular luxury of freedom while on the clock.
@@tanya5322 Oh, stop it. No airline is going to stop a desk-working gate agent from touching their phone if they're doing it to help them do their job better.
And besides, you don't need a smart phone to access this information. There's a thing called a PC. And the gate agent is sitting or standing in front of one nearly every minute of their shift.
Try flying as a passenger on a small-ish prop plane, where you can FEEL EVERY BIT of turbulence, island hopping in the Caribbean, then tell me that seventy-seater jet you got a ticket for is “kinda small”. (And those flights were the second and third flights I ever took, so I was figuratively pooping myself with anxiety.)
On the plus side, that little airport on the island of St. Thomas was cool. You got the feeling of being in the rural tropics at night, like the plane just landed in the rushes, even though it was a real airstrip and everything.
"would you ever be a commercial pilot?"
Hell no, why would I want to fly you creatures around? 🤣
Watching this is Sydney after leg 1 of 3 from New Zealand to London. It's giving me strength for the next 20-something hours 😂😣😭
yikes, that is a long day!! hopefully you can get some sleep!
@@74gear This leg is 14 hours to Dubai and my body is telling me it's midnight so sleep is a high priority! Can't say the same for the 12 infants on board... 😂 Help
Cassandra Cole: Oh jesus lm feeling your pain!! Im from Melbourne Australia and its a long haul to London.... made even longer by 12 infants. Safe travels!!
Cassandra Cole are you flying air New Zealand?
@@Aviatial Emirates all the way! Just wish it was First Class, now that's nice 😂
I once flew in a puddle jumper to go home for the weekend. Normally the flight was an hour, but it must have been the pilot's last flight of the day or something, because we arrived a whole 20 minutes early!
ya, thats what I talk about in that make up time video, on go home leg its fast as possible.
I enjoy your content immensely. Very watchable and informative. I think it is your modesty and self depreciation that makes your videos my guilty pleasure and it has helped me in no small way with my paralysing fear of flying.
Best wishes from London UK
couple of years ago I was on an MD-80 and the passenger commented on how small the plane was, my reply was as follows, it weights 140000 pound max take off. the stunned silence for the rest of the flight was worth it.
I think it realy depends on the background you have. My first flight ever was with the A380 cross atlantic for a business trip... even though it didn't have more room for me as a passenger every other plane i've been on since felt somewhat small. Objectively i know that they are not small in any real sense, but i cannot shake that feeling.
Lol that second one.. aspecially when you realize some landing strips like at Schiphol Amsterdam... yeah that can be a 15-30 min taxi, over the over a highway and all the way around the airport.
Ever just laugh so much you start coughing? This is such good content 74 Gear keep doing your thing.
Person on tour of Boeing plant: Why does that plane have four engines?
Tour guide: Because they couldn’t find a place for a fifth.
Yes, rule number 1 as a passenger, Never annoy the Gate Agents or the Flight Attendants, in fact....if you can make their jobs easier, DO IT! Karma...comes back to those who are NICE! I've been "bumped" to First/Business class MANY times because I was NICE to the Gate Agents, and even a couple times IN FLIGHT by the Flight Attendants. Lady with the job interview, interesting take...grab a pic with the pilot who said we aren't flying. Wonder if she got the job? haha.
"747 is a iconic plane" - sure it is, but as a passenger, I enjoy the more modern and comfortable 787 that I ride often with United. I have to think that the 787 is more modern and nice to fly because of it.
I like the 'small' ones that in stormy weather flap their wings like a bird.
@@dannygjk larger planes "flap" more than smaller aircraft
@@BallChainGaming I don't mean those little single engine private planes. That's why I said 'small'. I mean ones like a 707 iirc that was the one I rode in a storm and the wings were flapping so much the guy alongside me refused to look when I pointed it out to him. I just checked it couldn't have been a 707 it was much smaller. It had two engines and with all seats installed it looked like it could seat about 20-24 passengers.
@@dannygjk a 707 is a 4 engine airliner from the 50s. It's pretty big.
Sounds like you were on a turboprop regional plane. Last time I was on one of those I was 11 so I don't remember the wing behavior.
@@BallChainGaming You, " a 707 is a 4 engine airliner from the 50s. It's pretty big." Yes apparently you didn't read my whole comment. I said I checked it and, "I just checked it couldn't have been a 707 it was much smaller. It had two engines and with all seats installed it looked like it could seat about 20-24 passengers."
Yes it was a prop aircraft probably not even pressurized for 8,000 feet.
I always took the "Would you ever fly commercial" question to be more "knowing what you know, do you trust big airlines?" which is a differently stupid question.
Judging by the reaction, not stupid at all! Of course, you know what they say about stupid questions.
7:20 *"Oohh....you fly 747? Cringe, will you ever fly a spaceshuttle?"*
Kelsey (7:23): the biggest plane that Boeing makes
Airbus: 😏
This made my day especially the last Weather Radar one 😂😂
glad to hear it thanks so much for watching Moeenuddin.
@@74gear Hey Can you please do a Video On Pilot Motivation. BTW your Channel is great I love it.👨🏻✈️✈
Agreed. It was very decent of you to take that picture for the lady. I hope she was gracious.
Good on ya, Kelsey.
At least in Germany they hate it if you remind them that you're sitting there, holding short. You basically telling them, that they do a bad job.
If you're sitting there for 4 minutes, some examples might be fud near the runway or a maintenance vehicle just finishing up work.
They are very keen to reduce the latency for everybody, since that's how the management basically looks at the productivity of an airport - by avg delay of takeoffs/landings.
Just some thoughts on that by a friend of mine who work on an international airport in Germany.
@@jamesdean2185 lineup and wait isn't really different to holding short. In any case someone else might use parts of the runway currently.
@@jamesdean2185 I understand that. I feel the issue is more that the controllers in the US do clear not only an approach but also give landing clearances, if there's still traffic on the runway. So just a short distraction might lead to such an incident.
In Europe the landing clearance is only given after checking the runway visually (if possible) and with the ground radar, for exactly this reason.
@@RubenKelevra What? I did my radio operators certificate in Germany (VFR one, but still) and it is standard procedure to tell Tower "XXX Holding point RW 25L ready for departure" because obviously you have to run through before takeoff checks and Tower has no way of knowing whether youre done yet or whether youre even on their frequency yet. Telling Tower youre ready multiple times is a different story of course lol
@@Dudeisthere nice to hear another insight in that topic.
I think the point was, you switched from ground to the tower, you're told him/her that you're ready for departure, and the response was "hold short". Then you wait for 4 minutes and wonder what's going on, since nobody took off or landed in the time you waited.
Actually, that picture with the pilot and radar was a good idea! I mean, knowing what you can and cannot control is an important part of any job! 🤣😂👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
I am retired ATC and a current pilot myself. The pilots that upset us key up and say "Still holding short" right after another plane has landed and isn't off the runway or fail to look out the window and see the guy on short final.
In other news, yes we are sometimes busy/distracted and need a friendly reminder. Just make sure you have looked around and don't see a reason you may still be holding before calling.
One of my friends was in a language arts class (I can't remember what he said they were talking about but) and a kid says there weren't planes in WW1 and I'm like "boi watchu mean".
Kelsey you are hilarious. Good for you for looking out for your flight attendants and gate agents. Anyone who works with the public in any capacity knows what rude a$$holes people can be.
When crew scheduling calls you: "Why are you Runin'...? Why are you Runin'...? Why are you Runin'...?"
Kelsey: Says 4 bars on each shoulder means your a pilot
Also Kelsey: has 3 bars
Kelsey: I'm A 747 pIlOt
Not Your Average Skater 4 Bars means Captain. First Officers are pilots, too.
That was funny how you used your "pilot voice" on the meme about racing the other plane LOL!!!
I am glad you are enjoying the videos, and finding the memes is the hardest part so I am lucky people are sending them to me.
I remember, a looong time ago, on a Condor flight from Frankfurt to Dallas, we took off and there was a lot of turbulence... Dad joked it’s the co-pilot. We landed in Kansas City and the plane bounced and swayed three times I said Co-Pilot? Dad shook his head, no that was the Pilot, long flight, they change. We took off for Dallas, landed smooth, barely felt the landing... I smiled and said somebody learned, Dad said yeah, Stewardess.
As an ATC there are so many things that drive me crazy-
Pilot of aircraft 1- “We are number one holding short at A1.” Meanwhile @74Gear is over the numbers right in front of him.
ATC- You’ve got to be freaking kidding me! “Aircraft 2, can you take it from intersection A2? Aircraft 1 has a short delay”
My dad is a cargo pilot. He jokes all the time that he loves not having to deal with people. Cargo doesn’t talk back! So I don’t understand the whole commercial pilot jab that you guys experience. He makes bank, so again, I don’t understand that. Love your videos!!
People who know nothing on Aviation always 😂
Just was sitting near to some girls who I guess had their First flight ever a few months ago. We were just regulary departing and they were so scared already. I was just saying loudely "Hmm, this doesn't seems normal..., guess the engines are having problems"
I had some fun.... 😂
1:38 i hope a pilot never texts that to an air traffic controller
Antonio Guinoo 😂
I remember there was some experimental initiative where you would be "texting" ATC instead of talking to them on the radio. Gues the experiment didn't pan out, because you pretty much talk to them over the radio or call them on the phone.
opl500 i meant send an ACARS message dude, sheesh
ATC: *clear for takeoff*
Pilot: *clear for takeoff*
*A few minutes later just before handing the plane off to departure center*
Pilot: one more thing......*Holding short* (changes channel)
ATC: YOU SON OF A B--
roblosonic 505 yep
The USAF version... "You're just a cargo pilot, do you ever want to fly fighters?"?
I’m a gate agent for a major airline, and sometimes the pilots will come hang out at the gate. They usually last about 3-5 minutes before having to leave, to get away from the stupidity 🤣