I guess it is just that FTC was trying to find something they can flag as "wrong" because it is successful game from chinese developers, they completely overlook other games with similar "loot boxes" that are developed by US or EU developers
Yeah, that’s why certain things are being banned lol. Like why TikTok was banned? Media control. Anything that this one section law deems a “threat” can be banned
you're right but I don't think it's explicit hate/sinophobia. IMO it's more likely that there are people with conflicts of interest in government that make it impossible to pass something similar that goes after western companies.
All games with loot boxes in US or EU are of age raiting 16+ and is by law forced to give refound when underaged people have spent money and their parents wants the money back. Genshin is age raiting 12+ and do not give refound to anyone.
@ Age rating doesn't do crap. People can lie, and kids still play the games either way, and spend money on it all the same. Genshin has refunded parents who had kids spend their money beforehand, you can look it up. They don't need a law to force them to do that, it's just common sense if the other party can prove it. They just ban the account after providing the refund.
@ Yes you can lie and still play but it do have importance when it comes to the law. Genshin have refounded some cases that got lot of media attention but not close to everyone and when they do not you have no law to force them. It is common sense for normal people but for big companys you need to force them with laws or they will what makes them the most money.
I love how other CC say that "if genshin dont disclose its gacha rates, forget US government. Chinese government will be the one going after hoyo's asses first"
I can indeed say that most of the FTC lawsuit is complete bs, as someone who's been almost completely F2P ( only bought one welkin moon ). It is completely possible to get the characters you want without spending a dime, sure losing the 50/50 sucks but thats just life, sometimes you win and sometimes you lose.
@@silverhawkscape2677 Like I said MOST of the lawsuit, sure it might still be gambling but I am not forced to spend any real money in the unless I want to. The FTC said that you must spend money in order to progress which is NOT true
@@silverhawkscape2677 If he doesn't spend money it is not a gamble. Or else every game with "%" somewhere would be. Critical hits, chances to revive...
20 million dollar fine might not be much to Genshin and Houo, but if something like this hits Wuwa and Kuro it's gonna be a completely different story.
With the current Tencent backing that WuWa has, it would either not be anything (because Tencent can cover the cost), or the biggest joke in the world, especially with how big of a grip Tencent has across the global gaming market.
@Sora-Gi3 Tencent has always been with Wuwa, owning approximately 20% of shares, while Kuro held 49%. As of late November 2024, due to not earning the agreed upon amount of money, Tencent bought all shares of the other shareholders, thereby owning 51% of shares, which is the majority, thereby owning WuWa.
A guess someone from the gaming community should file a position paper to congress for it to use oversight functions to FTC to see if their ruling wasn't biased. With this, there will be a big chance that other companies using this scheme will be scrutinized as well like they did on genshin. They must be forced to do so in this case.
Honestly agree with near everything you've mentioned. Most of the lawsuit was absolutely ridiculous... & like pillbox below said, Happy Lantern Rite too!
genshin was already obvious not for kids. Any parent worth their salt could see that if they actually pay attention to what genshin is or if their kids are playing this game Im reallysurprisedparents let kids play these game. Its liek bad parenting. Also a kid getting your money to use on a gacha game is entirely the parents fault. Theres a reason why you have passwords on credit cards
People keep arguing it’s to protect kids, and while it is, it’s primarily due to how heavily regulated gambling is Biggest issue truly is the out of touch, uninformed, and decades-behind lawyers/judges who either don’t even use the services they make laws about and who seemingly are incompetent in comprehending many modern controversies and keep contributing to unhelpful new…Genshin (world) Impacts
Excellent analysis and critique, very insightful and balanced, I appreciate your amazing coverage and questions raised. Seems very strange how Genshin specifically is being targeted while so many companies have arguably worse practices (EA such an insane offender it’s not even close) and continual tactics that make the fiscal incentives leveraged predatorily in favor of the companies and not in ways that protect or benefit the consumer - highly doubt they will go after other companies, which will prove how intentional and preferential (to attack a Chinese popular company but ignore domestic powerhouse abusers) this is then if that’s the case. On top of it, your privacy and security concerns this raises (especially right after the TikTok fiasco)…wild and hypocritical times indeed
I agree with the FTC. Rather than "Gacha"/Gamble, they should just sell a pack containing the characters+ whatever the hell they wanna add in there for a fixed amount of primogems. Its not just for "Transparencies", it is to give certainty to players, whether they can afford to buy the pack or not. As much as I love GI, the dark sides of Gacha is too real, and many have fallen for it, whether they spend all their income and savings or even go into debt, or spent their parents money/CC and force them into debt.
The whole "sell a pack for characters" method IS a thing for some gachas out there. But, they are ALWAYS exorbitantly priced. We don't want Genshin to be like that. But the thing is, financial practices will just make it so that if those packages DO exist, then there's no way that it's going to be priced cheaper than if you were to spend it on banners instead. That's not something you can blame Hoyo for, it's just commerce philosophy. If they sell it for a fixed amount "primos", then people will just be able to save up the same way they have been saving up for gacha pulls. It's just a whole new system that basically doesn't change crap. You want certainty? Genshin has certainty. 180 pulls, and you're guaranteed your character. Others like Wuwa, HSR, ZZZ, and most new-gen gachas have all followed suit. No one is going to play a gacha without that guarantee mechanic anymore, or you're just asking to get scammed. You pull for discounts, while knowing how much you actually have to do to get the characters. I'm of the opinion that the dark side of gacha has been well-handled by the new-gen gachas because of the guarantee systems, and is becoming less-and-less of a problem. Plus, millions of F2P, and even more millions of light spender players, can play and get their characters without much trouble, if they weren't horridly unlucky. The handful outlier of people who couldn't keep their spending habits in-check and end up splurging it on these games, shouldn't be the basis for changes made to the game's fundamentals. Besides, given the correct procedures, Hoyo will refund rogue purchases. Is just that it will most likely end with that account getting banned.
I think the government should treat regulation of something they don't understand more seriously. They need to get people who know the market to assist them in the process and do things right,because this sounds like someone who went on TV to say videogame bad for some petty money most of the time. It's still a step towards regulation,but I really wish the FTC and congressmen were more serious going forward
I will say this: who the hell did the whole thing? It is true how the FTC has rather questionable things, but come on, it looks like a child's doing. It is a reason why i think, just like most Gacha games i play, Genshin should have a counter that tells you how much left is for a 5 star. It reminds me of Azur Lane, which has a counter for you to get the character you want. is really that hard? every gacha game i play has one but genshin does not. besides, Genshin is the ONLY Hoyo game i play. the rest is just random gacha games i like
There are way too many nuances with this fine, and I applaud you for calling out the many flaws of the fine from the FTC perspective. I find it funny how, in the literal FTC page that highlights some details about the fine (aka what they are fining for and what should they do so that Gesnhin doesn't get fine again), they literally mention two statements that inherently contradict themselves. They want Genshin to make US players under 16 to get parental consent before buying stuff, and to not collect data from US players, which if you think about it, literally contradicts each other. You can't prevent someone under 16 in the US from buying stuff without knowing they are under 16 and in the US via data collection. Why it works in China because game companies in China has almost all information of all of their China Chinese players (they legally have to) and therefore can exercise said control (like the amount of screentime etc). This entire complaint is just a jab from US to China in a very indirect way. As you have mentioned, "why now, and why only Genshin". The why now part is actually more crucial. Many games developed over time with very unfair gacha or lootbox systems, and Genshin new relative to many of these giants. Plus, given that they have existed for 5 years at this point, why now? Why not when it was at its peak from 2.x to 3.x 2-3 years ago? From the outside POV, it's clear that FTC just wants money, and Cognosphere does not want to get involved in the politics of it.
Yeah.... I am sure your being sarcastic. But I am in/from the USA- I can state that children & parents here are 1 extream or the other: #1) either they are coddled here to the point where it SHOULD be laughable for this to happen. Or... #2) they are given far too much freedom and the parents care little for whatever they are doing as long as they dont cause them trouble and stay quiet. The 1st extream would likely be very questioning of these games, so they arent a problem in these cases.... the parents who are the problem are the ones who deem a phone or PC a PROPER babysitter. I agree with all of your statements. I just wanted to assure you that those 2 massive extreams exist here and a lot here consider it a problem. Also parent type #1 would also be seriously side-eyeing sniperwolf.
Gacha is a mistake. Just sell us the characters. An ideal world would be having all characters to be "unlockable free characters", but I understand this is asking too much.
Well said. It’s sad that other gacha communities specifically the kurobots rejoicing this when this affects them as well and they can be the next. Just for the sake of hating they will stood so low!
There's a word for people that hate Hoyo now? I'm on the wrong side of the internet, go outside please, the billion dollar company is fine without your defense
You do miss the biggest point why Genshin is effected and not Fifa or CS go. Fifa, CS go and WuWa all have age raiting of 16+ and this fine is for promoting for under 16 like Genshin do with a 12+ age raiting. Fifa and CS go also by law need to refound if underaged people did spend money and parents want a refound that Genshin do not do. Shure it may well be that they do not like Chinese companys and Genshin is good to make an example of but that do not take away that they do not follow the US laws and promote to people under 16 openly with a 12+ age raiting.
I've answered your first comment, so you can look at my thoughts about your overall statement. BTW, Wuwa is also rated 12+. But, obviously they won't be going after them since they haven't accrued the sort of international presence that Genshin has.
@@GoatLiffy Wuwa do have the age rating of 16+ in China so that is just incorrect. Because of that and that they are smaller they will not be targeted.
@@anurmi5717 In Chinaaaaaaaaaaaaa, go to the US apple app store and search Wuwa. We're talking about the FTC, in the US, brother. Whatever the fuck China marks Genshin as, doesn't matter in the US jurisdiction.
Firstly fifa/FC is rated E(age 3+) and even though it’s not stated anywhere in the game ea “recommends” players to be 13+ to play ultimate team, guess what that means? Someone under the age of 16 can still gamble on “loot boxes” in fifa so your point is completely invalid.
I would like to add that people who play the child model characters in Genshin aren't always those weird depictions of a reddit moderator with maleficent intentions. There are Players that just like cute characters and since these character (luckily) aren't portrait sexually, there isn't much wrong with that. I had a friend who just loved cute things, similar to how adults can like hello kitty or cinnamon roll, you don't always have to be a creep. Of course you can question if an advertisement was targeted at weirdos or normal people, but it's not like only weird people like non-sexualized cute things.
I've heard one interesting take (apparently originating from Japan) on this topic: it still isn't a good idea to try but might be possible to make some kind of court case about sponsoring streamers to play the game and visibly pull for characters out of their pay. You could maybe argue this fosters a "culture of deception" in which young viewers might conflate the success of somebody with a larger budget with their own. (It's also conceivable somebody might want to try to prove "streamer luck" really is a thing and a dishonest thing at that. I don't think in this game there really are any thumbs learning on the scales of a supposed RNG, but?) As far as "disclose the gacha system mechanics" goes, it was there in-game (under "Details->Details") when I started and I checked a couple days back to see it's all still there. Arguably not very child-friendly text simply because of how precise and exhaustive the language is, but it's not like the game is trying to sign up children. The ToS is pretty clear they don't really want children signing up and they especially don't want children linking a way to spend money. This IS a predatory business model, and while I both buy welkins to support the servers and development (given what I'd be spending on games to keep me entertained for as long this seems a fair expense) and can appreciate the actual amount and quality of what these particular developers are producing with their proceeds I also don't as a rule recommend playing this game to people I don't know pretty well. But with so many video games with predatory business models to pick from that are actively seeking out and exploiting children, I have limited respect for this move by the FTC.
Yeah, I don't recommend any gachas for people who never played gacha before, or are not intending to try out gachas. If they ever ask, I tell them to understand what a gacha game is first, and then come back to me. Cause, if they're not familiar with the way gacha games does their shit, then it's unlikely to that they'll enjoy it.
in wuthering waves you can unlock the most character, only in 80/80 without pay or some pay ( not many) 100% secure is the reason that i leave genshin and enter in WUTHERING WAVEs
If no one cares then this discussion wouldn't exist xD I never said the game didn't have flaws. I just think there are other games from their sphere that are objectively far worse in their practices, if we see it according to the FTC's standards, and have been doing it for far longer than Genshin. Yet, nothing ever happens to those companies.
@@GoatLiffy yeah dude atleast they started addressing these issues i hope they address more companies, but ig most of them has a mature age rating, while genshin still has a lower age rating, what i meant by no one cares is in the end everyone will be like nothing happened and will continue to promote these practices in game like it is a normal thing which is sad. its a good start imo
@@protagonist-o5y thats the reason people question about the execution and intention, they should had fined multiple companies all at once to show their determination. the timing and the target made their good intention looked like a political move.
@@Xidanyu well ftc is a government body so it's technically political 😂, but yeah genshin was an easy target that's why they caught first, sounds so political for me too but that's how the world works 😹
I guess it is just that FTC was trying to find something they can flag as "wrong" because it is successful game from chinese developers, they completely overlook other games with similar "loot boxes" that are developed by US or EU developers
Yeah, that’s why certain things are being banned lol. Like why TikTok was banned? Media control. Anything that this one section law deems a “threat” can be banned
you're right but I don't think it's explicit hate/sinophobia. IMO it's more likely that there are people with conflicts of interest in government that make it impossible to pass something similar that goes after western companies.
All games with loot boxes in US or EU are of age raiting 16+ and is by law forced to give refound when underaged people have spent money and their parents wants the money back. Genshin is age raiting 12+ and do not give refound to anyone.
@ Age rating doesn't do crap. People can lie, and kids still play the games either way, and spend money on it all the same.
Genshin has refunded parents who had kids spend their money beforehand, you can look it up. They don't need a law to force them to do that, it's just common sense if the other party can prove it. They just ban the account after providing the refund.
@ Yes you can lie and still play but it do have importance when it comes to the law.
Genshin have refounded some cases that got lot of media attention but not close to everyone and when they do not you have no law to force them. It is common sense for normal people but for big companys you need to force them with laws or they will what makes them the most money.
I love how other CC say that "if genshin dont disclose its gacha rates, forget US government. Chinese government will be the one going after hoyo's asses first"
That is actually very true and I should've mentioned it xD
I can indeed say that most of the FTC lawsuit is complete bs, as someone who's been almost completely F2P ( only bought one welkin moon ). It is completely possible to get the characters you want without spending a dime, sure losing the 50/50 sucks but thats just life, sometimes you win and sometimes you lose.
That's still gambling
Crazy to think gacha games have normalized it to this extent, but a lot of people that play now weren't born when these mechanics were hated.
@@silverhawkscape2677 Like I said MOST of the lawsuit, sure it might still be gambling but I am not forced to spend any real money in the unless I want to. The FTC said that you must spend money in order to progress which is NOT true
@@silverhawkscape2677 If he doesn't spend money it is not a gamble.
Or else every game with "%" somewhere would be.
Critical hits, chances to revive...
20 million dollar fine might not be much to Genshin and Houo, but if something like this hits Wuwa and Kuro it's gonna be a completely different story.
With the current Tencent backing that WuWa has, it would either not be anything (because Tencent can cover the cost), or the biggest joke in the world, especially with how big of a grip Tencent has across the global gaming market.
@ Huh was Tencent always with Wuwa, sorry I only recently got into Wuwa and Kuro.
@Sora-Gi3 Tencent has always been with Wuwa, owning approximately 20% of shares, while Kuro held 49%. As of late November 2024, due to not earning the agreed upon amount of money, Tencent bought all shares of the other shareholders, thereby owning 51% of shares, which is the majority, thereby owning WuWa.
@ ohhh, thanks for the information
Tencent got Wuwa covered with their investment, they gon be fine as well lul
A guess someone from the gaming community should file a position paper to congress for it to use oversight functions to FTC to see if their ruling wasn't biased. With this, there will be a big chance that other companies using this scheme will be scrutinized as well like they did on genshin. They must be forced to do so in this case.
Honestly agree with near everything you've mentioned. Most of the lawsuit was absolutely ridiculous...
& like pillbox below said, Happy Lantern Rite too!
genshin was already obvious not for kids. Any parent worth their salt could see that if they actually pay attention to what genshin is or if their kids are playing this game
Im reallysurprisedparents let kids play these game. Its liek bad parenting.
Also a kid getting your money to use on a gacha game is entirely the parents fault. Theres a reason why you have passwords on credit cards
People keep arguing it’s to protect kids, and while it is, it’s primarily due to how heavily regulated gambling is
Biggest issue truly is the out of touch, uninformed, and decades-behind lawyers/judges who either don’t even use the services they make laws about and who seemingly are incompetent in comprehending many modern controversies and keep contributing to unhelpful new…Genshin (world) Impacts
Excellent analysis and critique, very insightful and balanced, I appreciate your amazing coverage and questions raised. Seems very strange how Genshin specifically is being targeted while so many companies have arguably worse practices (EA such an insane offender it’s not even close) and continual tactics that make the fiscal incentives leveraged predatorily in favor of the companies and not in ways that protect or benefit the consumer - highly doubt they will go after other companies, which will prove how intentional and preferential (to attack a Chinese popular company but ignore domestic powerhouse abusers) this is then if that’s the case. On top of it, your privacy and security concerns this raises (especially right after the TikTok fiasco)…wild and hypocritical times indeed
I agree with the FTC.
Rather than "Gacha"/Gamble, they should just sell a pack containing the characters+ whatever the hell they wanna add in there for a fixed amount of primogems.
Its not just for "Transparencies", it is to give certainty to players, whether they can afford to buy the pack or not.
As much as I love GI, the dark sides of Gacha is too real, and many have fallen for it, whether they spend all their income and savings or even go into debt, or spent their parents money/CC and force them into debt.
The whole "sell a pack for characters" method IS a thing for some gachas out there. But, they are ALWAYS exorbitantly priced. We don't want Genshin to be like that. But the thing is, financial practices will just make it so that if those packages DO exist, then there's no way that it's going to be priced cheaper than if you were to spend it on banners instead. That's not something you can blame Hoyo for, it's just commerce philosophy.
If they sell it for a fixed amount "primos", then people will just be able to save up the same way they have been saving up for gacha pulls. It's just a whole new system that basically doesn't change crap.
You want certainty? Genshin has certainty. 180 pulls, and you're guaranteed your character. Others like Wuwa, HSR, ZZZ, and most new-gen gachas have all followed suit. No one is going to play a gacha without that guarantee mechanic anymore, or you're just asking to get scammed. You pull for discounts, while knowing how much you actually have to do to get the characters.
I'm of the opinion that the dark side of gacha has been well-handled by the new-gen gachas because of the guarantee systems, and is becoming less-and-less of a problem. Plus, millions of F2P, and even more millions of light spender players, can play and get their characters without much trouble, if they weren't horridly unlucky. The handful outlier of people who couldn't keep their spending habits in-check and end up splurging it on these games, shouldn't be the basis for changes made to the game's fundamentals. Besides, given the correct procedures, Hoyo will refund rogue purchases. Is just that it will most likely end with that account getting banned.
I think the government should treat regulation of something they don't understand more seriously. They need to get people who know the market to assist them in the process and do things right,because this sounds like someone who went on TV to say videogame bad for some petty money most of the time. It's still a step towards regulation,but I really wish the FTC and congressmen were more serious going forward
I will say this: who the hell did the whole thing? It is true how the FTC has rather questionable things, but come on, it looks like a child's doing. It is a reason why i think, just like most Gacha games i play, Genshin should have a counter that tells you how much left is for a 5 star. It reminds me of Azur Lane, which has a counter for you to get the character you want. is really that hard? every gacha game i play has one but genshin does not. besides, Genshin is the ONLY Hoyo game i play. the rest is just random gacha games i like
There are way too many nuances with this fine, and I applaud you for calling out the many flaws of the fine from the FTC perspective.
I find it funny how, in the literal FTC page that highlights some details about the fine (aka what they are fining for and what should they do so that Gesnhin doesn't get fine again), they literally mention two statements that inherently contradict themselves. They want Genshin to make US players under 16 to get parental consent before buying stuff, and to not collect data from US players, which if you think about it, literally contradicts each other. You can't prevent someone under 16 in the US from buying stuff without knowing they are under 16 and in the US via data collection. Why it works in China because game companies in China has almost all information of all of their China Chinese players (they legally have to) and therefore can exercise said control (like the amount of screentime etc).
This entire complaint is just a jab from US to China in a very indirect way. As you have mentioned, "why now, and why only Genshin". The why now part is actually more crucial. Many games developed over time with very unfair gacha or lootbox systems, and Genshin new relative to many of these giants. Plus, given that they have existed for 5 years at this point, why now? Why not when it was at its peak from 2.x to 3.x 2-3 years ago? From the outside POV, it's clear that FTC just wants money, and Cognosphere does not want to get involved in the politics of it.
Yeah.... I am sure your being sarcastic. But I am in/from the USA- I can state that children & parents here are 1 extream or the other:
#1) either they are coddled here to the point where it SHOULD be laughable for this to happen. Or...
#2) they are given far too much freedom and the parents care little for whatever they are doing as long as they dont cause them trouble and stay quiet.
The 1st extream would likely be very questioning of these games, so they arent a problem in these cases.... the parents who are the problem are the ones who deem a phone or PC a PROPER babysitter. I agree with all of your statements. I just wanted to assure you that those 2 massive extreams exist here and a lot here consider it a problem. Also parent type #1 would also be seriously side-eyeing sniperwolf.
Gacha is a mistake.
Just sell us the characters.
An ideal world would be having all characters to be "unlockable free characters", but I understand this is asking too much.
FTC is just mad that dustborn and the other hideous game they had, had no players playing it /hj
Well said.
It’s sad that other gacha communities specifically the kurobots rejoicing this when this affects them as well and they can be the next. Just for the sake of hating they will stood so low!
God the Kurobots are so annoying.
There's a word for people that hate Hoyo now? I'm on the wrong side of the internet, go outside please, the billion dollar company is fine without your defense
You do miss the biggest point why Genshin is effected and not Fifa or CS go. Fifa, CS go and WuWa all have age raiting of 16+ and this fine is for promoting for under 16 like Genshin do with a 12+ age raiting. Fifa and CS go also by law need to refound if underaged people did spend money and parents want a refound that Genshin do not do. Shure it may well be that they do not like Chinese companys and Genshin is good to make an example of but that do not take away that they do not follow the US laws and promote to people under 16 openly with a 12+ age raiting.
I've answered your first comment, so you can look at my thoughts about your overall statement.
BTW, Wuwa is also rated 12+. But, obviously they won't be going after them since they haven't accrued the sort of international presence that Genshin has.
@@GoatLiffy Wuwa do have the age rating of 16+ in China so that is just incorrect. Because of that and that they are smaller they will not be targeted.
@@anurmi5717 In Chinaaaaaaaaaaaaa, go to the US apple app store and search Wuwa.
We're talking about the FTC, in the US, brother. Whatever the fuck China marks Genshin as, doesn't matter in the US jurisdiction.
Firstly fifa/FC is rated E(age 3+) and even though it’s not stated anywhere in the game ea “recommends” players to be 13+ to play ultimate team, guess what that means? Someone under the age of 16 can still gamble on “loot boxes” in fifa so your point is completely invalid.
The day when USA officials know what they are talking about is probably the day I become a father. Not happening.
Happy Lantern Rite!
hoyoverse reaction to the issue: Oh no! Anyway
I would like to add that people who play the child model characters in Genshin aren't always those weird depictions of a reddit moderator with maleficent intentions. There are Players that just like cute characters and since these character (luckily) aren't portrait sexually, there isn't much wrong with that. I had a friend who just loved cute things, similar to how adults can like hello kitty or cinnamon roll, you don't always have to be a creep.
Of course you can question if an advertisement was targeted at weirdos or normal people, but it's not like only weird people like non-sexualized cute things.
I've heard one interesting take (apparently originating from Japan) on this topic: it still isn't a good idea to try but might be possible to make some kind of court case about sponsoring streamers to play the game and visibly pull for characters out of their pay. You could maybe argue this fosters a "culture of deception" in which young viewers might conflate the success of somebody with a larger budget with their own. (It's also conceivable somebody might want to try to prove "streamer luck" really is a thing and a dishonest thing at that. I don't think in this game there really are any thumbs learning on the scales of a supposed RNG, but?)
As far as "disclose the gacha system mechanics" goes, it was there in-game (under "Details->Details") when I started and I checked a couple days back to see it's all still there. Arguably not very child-friendly text simply because of how precise and exhaustive the language is, but it's not like the game is trying to sign up children. The ToS is pretty clear they don't really want children signing up and they especially don't want children linking a way to spend money.
This IS a predatory business model, and while I both buy welkins to support the servers and development (given what I'd be spending on games to keep me entertained for as long this seems a fair expense) and can appreciate the actual amount and quality of what these particular developers are producing with their proceeds I also don't as a rule recommend playing this game to people I don't know pretty well. But with so many video games with predatory business models to pick from that are actively seeking out and exploiting children, I have limited respect for this move by the FTC.
Yeah, I don't recommend any gachas for people who never played gacha before, or are not intending to try out gachas. If they ever ask, I tell them to understand what a gacha game is first, and then come back to me. Cause, if they're not familiar with the way gacha games does their shit, then it's unlikely to that they'll enjoy it.
Fortnite 250 million fine on one don't want bring that up for like people forget
someone who works at FTC probably had their son lose their 50/50 and complain non-stop on their ears XD
Great video
Unlike those drama farming channels with no real argument and rage bait wordings and thumbnails
in wuthering waves you can unlock the most character, only in 80/80 without pay or some pay ( not many) 100% secure is the reason that i leave genshin and enter in WUTHERING WAVEs
It was a warning. Next fine is gona be much higher.
no one cares dude, at the end this game has some genuine flaws and it should be addressed , ftc is doing a right thing imo
If no one cares then this discussion wouldn't exist xD
I never said the game didn't have flaws. I just think there are other games from their sphere that are objectively far worse in their practices, if we see it according to the FTC's standards, and have been doing it for far longer than Genshin. Yet, nothing ever happens to those companies.
@@GoatLiffy yeah dude atleast they started addressing these issues i hope they address more companies, but ig most of them has a mature age rating, while genshin still has a lower age rating, what i meant by no one cares is in the end everyone will be like nothing happened and will continue to promote these practices in game like it is a normal thing which is sad. its a good start imo
@@protagonist-o5y thats the reason people question about the execution and intention, they should had fined multiple companies all at once to show their determination.
the timing and the target made their good intention looked like a political move.
@@Xidanyu well ftc is a government body so it's technically political 😂, but yeah genshin was an easy target that's why they caught first, sounds so political for me too but that's how the world works 😹