POLYESTER VS CO POLY TENNIS STRING : WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE

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  • @slerk9
    @slerk9 3 роки тому +176

    7:17 is where the difference is explained, just to save you all 12 minutes 😂

    • @jonathanchen1026
      @jonathanchen1026 3 роки тому +5

      Thank you

    • @christoscholevas
      @christoscholevas 3 роки тому +1

      Thanks 👍

    • @Lego-tennis
      @Lego-tennis 3 роки тому +1

      Lol thanks

    • @nicolasvillavicencio1835
      @nicolasvillavicencio1835 3 роки тому +1

      @Chad Blaine Nice Ad, its not like i've seen this 52 times today with one guy talking about it at first with a week old account and a person saying that its working also with a week old account with copy pasted answers.

    • @mirstation
      @mirstation 3 роки тому

      I’m not intelligent enough to understand this at all

  • @KreationPhotography
    @KreationPhotography 3 роки тому +30

    Something is wrong, solinco confidential is known by its playability duration whereas luxilon alu power is known to be crisp for the fist 2-4h and then go horrible loose.

  • @StephanieHughesDesign
    @StephanieHughesDesign 3 роки тому +5

    As a lifetime tennis player who still plays amateur competitive, ex college, ITF and Pro Penn Tour player I just love your videos. Super. I play with Solinco Hyper G 16L gauge on my 4 Babalot Aero racquets and love them. Consistent quality and nice spin. I believe Solinco offers Hyper G in soft version now too.

  • @cybernetennis
    @cybernetennis 3 роки тому +2

    Great episode; this is why we come here daily :)

  • @elitetennis4811
    @elitetennis4811 3 роки тому +1

    Your video's are simply AWESOME!!!!So informative and a pleasure to watch and learn...Thank you!

  • @squib311
    @squib311 25 днів тому

    I played polyester strings in the 70s called Blue Star in my Davis Imperial racquets. They felt a lot like VS gut but more durable and cheaper.

  • @shpingalet7895
    @shpingalet7895 3 роки тому +4

    Super-helpful video for understanding! Thanks a lot!

  • @jerome_morrow
    @jerome_morrow 3 роки тому +5

    Your doctor does not know Luxilon. Luxilon does not manufacture surgical sutures. They are a polyester yarn manufacturer that supplies wholesale to medical device companies that make the sutures, meshes etc. that are used by doctors.

  • @cliveburks
    @cliveburks 2 роки тому

    Interesting background and story from the beginning worth watching IMO thanks

  • @alextennis24
    @alextennis24 3 роки тому +1

    Very nice explanation man. This is some good stuff. Personnally i'm not crazy about luxilion, they say you are suppose to string lower than usual, but when i do, i have no control at all, way to loose.

  • @Le-Chuck
    @Le-Chuck 3 роки тому +34

    Weird, pretty everyone that tested both knows that hyper g holds tension longer than alu power...

    • @fingersm
      @fingersm 3 роки тому

      ??? Not

    • @75endi
      @75endi 3 роки тому +5

      Tennis Warehouse University has a string comparison page (twu.tennis-warehouse.com/learning_center/comparestrings.php ) according to which the Hyper G definitely holds tension longer than the LXN Alu Power

    • @svanwest
      @svanwest 3 роки тому

      @@75endi the link is broken

    • @75endi
      @75endi 3 роки тому +1

      @@svanwest Sorry, it should work now

    • @babbo507
      @babbo507 3 роки тому

      Maybe during a heavy hitting session but once hyper g loses tension it's permanent, alu power somehow feels better the next day.

  • @villiam7941
    @villiam7941 3 роки тому

    Thanks for the explanation. Very helpful to me!

  • @guyprovost
    @guyprovost 3 місяці тому

    Strange because I strung a mono poly (orange super smash 123) and a co-poly right after it and the orange super smash was way softier than the co-poly.

  • @VishnuRajam4x4
    @VishnuRajam4x4 Рік тому

    The question I wanted answered!!!

  • @ALC-bd1pm
    @ALC-bd1pm 3 роки тому +5

    Haha, Learning Something New Everyday. 💡💡💡

  • @videonaveia
    @videonaveia 3 роки тому +1

    Always a great video !

  • @a2casius
    @a2casius 3 роки тому +3

    Tecnifibre Triax (which you reviewed a few weeks ago!) is a multifilament co-poly !!!

    • @Fred_P
      @Fred_P 3 роки тому

      Together with polyamide (nylon) filaments 50/50, not 100 % co-poly.

    • @a2casius
      @a2casius 3 роки тому

      @@Fred_P Close enough

    • @Fred_P
      @Fred_P 3 роки тому

      @@a2casius Sure : )

  • @pablotur6487
    @pablotur6487 3 роки тому +2

    Oh, by the way, Polys are great but will ruin your elbow and/or shoulder...definitely recommend a hybrid, if you're not an advanced player.

  • @emadny75
    @emadny75 2 роки тому

    Great review mr and very informative 💐

  • @richardmills5360
    @richardmills5360 2 роки тому

    Love your videos Harry, I watch them before buying balls, racquets, strings and shoes etc. Please open a branch in the UK 😉🇬🇧

  • @tomwharton9800
    @tomwharton9800 3 роки тому +6

    I am confused - all the Luxilon strings, even big banger original, are described as co-poly strings on tennis warehouse.. It's seems perhaps that only strings from several years ago were polyester and pretty much all poly strings nowadays have additives added to them.

    • @lsee19
      @lsee19 3 роки тому +6

      I actually think he's incorrect in stating that Luxilon is just a polyester string. I am pretty sure it is a co-poly. Hyper-G is just a another co-poly with probably different formulation

    • @Fred_P
      @Fred_P 3 роки тому +9

      Just go to luxilon's website. It's Poly-Ether-Ether, not polyester. Harry just repeats hearsay, he never does any research or preparation. He does provide some good real life insights sometimes though.

  • @jamesotto7884
    @jamesotto7884 3 роки тому

    Explained well, cheers 🍻

  • @philipphortnagl2486
    @philipphortnagl2486 3 роки тому +3

    what you recommend in coldy/wet weather for strings? co-poly, mutli ...? and what about string tension, lower than usually?

  • @tonioelpirato1387
    @tonioelpirato1387 3 роки тому

    Thanks! Great to learn some historical stuff too! Love your videos!!

  • @misscorinneyo
    @misscorinneyo 4 місяці тому

    What would you say about Still in Black string? It's a monofilament copolyester string, sounds like good for elbow

  • @ЕгорПитеров-б6ч
    @ЕгорПитеров-б6ч 3 роки тому

    great description

  • @danilastefan1298
    @danilastefan1298 3 роки тому +1

    hI I want to know wich string and tension is better for my daughter ...9 years old.. she play 6 day for 2 hour a day: Luxilon Smart ,Luxilon element Hyper G soft ...or Confidential ..I want to buy a raquet: Wilson blade 26 jr v7 vs wilson pro staff 26 jr v13 wich raquet i buy?.thx you.. best regards sorry for my english

  • @naserharbi
    @naserharbi 3 роки тому +1

    Thank you so much for the Solinco Confidential. I used it yesterday and it was amazing feel. I used the 18g @52lbs for mains with Dunlop SGut 18g @50lbs for crosses (tennis elbow) on Wilson ProStaff 97L with added 5g weight at the grip. I tried the Tour bite 20g but it wasn't that good. I had to hit and miss 3 times until I get to my shot. With Confidential, from the first hit. Now I have 3 main strings to choose from: HyperG 20g, Confidential 18g and Völkl V-square 19g. I hope they would release the Confidential in 19g or even 20g.

  • @PulseTrip
    @PulseTrip 5 днів тому

    I think Velocity MLT is a multi poly? or am i wrong

  • @damirdamir1180
    @damirdamir1180 3 роки тому +3

    Can you test MSV strings?

  • @JenkinsB
    @JenkinsB 3 роки тому +1

    Confidential or Hyper G for beginner (15 year old female, athletic)? Thanks.

  • @anthonymicha7079
    @anthonymicha7079 3 роки тому +2

    Hey! Would it be ok to mix Tour Bite with Hyper-G? And how would you do it? Which in the mains and which in the cross?

  • @stephan552
    @stephan552 3 роки тому

    What did you do to your 4 right hand fingers wrapped in bandaids ? And oh thanks for the videos...all of them ! Cheers

  • @petergehrman7494
    @petergehrman7494 3 роки тому +2

    Yonex multi sensor is a multi poly I think.

    • @mteca5093
      @mteca5093 3 роки тому

      So is multifeel , nxt control maybe, triax,hdmx.. there is a bunch

  • @shanespruiell93
    @shanespruiell93 Рік тому

    I wish I could automatically set all tennis spin videos to 1.5x playback speed lol

  • @bwiz6514
    @bwiz6514 2 роки тому +1

    It's just not accurate to say the stiffer polys last longer and have less tension loss than copolys. There are numerous examples of soft co-poly's having less tension loss and longer playability than their firmer cousins. As an example, the tension loss of the ALU Power you showed is 47% compared to 26% for the Hyper G. So I think your assertion needs to be reexamined.

  • @K4R3N
    @K4R3N 3 роки тому

    Thank you

  • @donquixote...
    @donquixote... 3 роки тому

    Thought the Confidential was 4 sided, not 6... That was the info I saw anyway.

  • @erichaynes7502
    @erichaynes7502 3 роки тому

    I'm a weird case, I'm older I don't have a lot of power so rely on lots of control to move the opponent around/force his mistakes. I string Kirsch Max Power (Co-Poly)on my Volkl V1 and it seems to play really well for 100+ hours what the heck is going on?

  • @DrumWizard16
    @DrumWizard16 3 роки тому +2

    Uhhhh, all Co-poly and poly strings are monofilaments, except a few. A true 1st generation poly string would be something like Kirschbaum P2 or Tourna Premium poly methinks.

  • @skandelous
    @skandelous 3 роки тому

    I also just strung my racket with the solinco confidential. What tension do you like that string at ?

  • @direwolf525
    @direwolf525 2 роки тому

    I dont' get it the luxilon big banger is also co polyester monofilament

  • @princessoftennis5539
    @princessoftennis5539 3 роки тому

    wow!! great!!

  • @philipng476
    @philipng476 2 роки тому +2

    I still like multifilament better, it is way better in term of playability and comfort. I do my own stringing, so I don't need super durability.

  • @medicoveterinario3641
    @medicoveterinario3641 3 роки тому

    Harry, love your videos, pace talking talking and the issues you come with. Why polyesters got better in the market than kevlar?... Agassi strung kevlar, as in example... what do you think about kevlar?

    • @TheDareMaximus
      @TheDareMaximus 3 роки тому

      It's just the performance
      Kevlar is material that is very very strong, (it is used in military for armor suits so they stops bullet from penetration)
      With kevlar, your strings are durable as hell, they will last very long, but big thing about them is their low performance they give
      Poly gives much more power, spin, and such things to the ball, as it "grabs" that ball pretty well, while kevlar strings won't "grab" that ball, causing less power, spin and such..

    • @medicoveterinario3641
      @medicoveterinario3641 3 роки тому

      @@TheDareMaximus aha... I use kevlar. A lot, Y find that it is very but I mean very good string when strung at low tension (40 lbs or even less) with good match of crosses, as multi or soft poly or copoly, their pretty thin ( 1,10-1,20) therefore the spin is very affordable, as so the slice. I do agree with you that when strung al 50, as in example, it is a iron wall you are hitting with

    • @medicoveterinario3641
      @medicoveterinario3641 3 роки тому

      it's not a string for beginners, I understand that. It's for intermediate to advanced levels

  • @treplay8846
    @treplay8846 Рік тому

    luxilon patent..its actually multiple poly strand construction

  • @dalelewis1849
    @dalelewis1849 2 роки тому

    How often would you have to change your strings with a co-ploy assuming strings don't break. I'm thinking you probably have a drastic tension change after about six months. Thx in advance.

  • @alexkrummenacher5050
    @alexkrummenacher5050 Рік тому

    He's talking to us like we are idiots.

  • @Thicc_Thanos964
    @Thicc_Thanos964 3 роки тому +1

    Opinions on Luxilon Element? I’m trying to switch to another co poly with good feel, control, spin and tension maintenance :)

    • @Abe-Lau
      @Abe-Lau 3 роки тому +3

      I think I am in the minority here but I personally really love RPM power because it gives me good feel, good spin, and control. Durability is probably the weak point. I broke it after 4 hours in summer 90• weather. I personally just like it but many people don’t.
      Hope this help? Ask me if you have questions!
      Cheers😎

    • @Thicc_Thanos964
      @Thicc_Thanos964 3 роки тому +1

      @@Abe-Lau this helped, highly appreciated, the current string I use right now is the pro line evolution, it’s good except that it went dead fast and lacked a bit of a crisp response that I wanted. Thx again I need to try it out!

    • @Abe-Lau
      @Abe-Lau 3 роки тому +1

      @@Thicc_Thanos964 Hopefully it works out well! I don’t want you to choose a bad string. Just beware it is kinda of expensive and stringing it will be a pain. You will have to move the strings back to the center like older strings.
      Tell me how it goes!
      Cheers😎

    • @b-radmybro3299
      @b-radmybro3299 3 роки тому +1

      @@Thicc_Thanos964 you should definitely try solinco tour bite: crisp feel, great control and spin, and the tension maintenance is incredible especially if you use the 16 or even thicker gauges

    • @homosapien5156
      @homosapien5156 3 роки тому

      @@Thicc_Thanos964 I also use the pro line evolution. Love it

  • @overdrive_tennis
    @overdrive_tennis 3 роки тому

    When you mention copoly doesnt hold tension, you mean it loses stringing tension or snapback? Could you make a video about snapback?

  • @59BigWalt
    @59BigWalt 3 роки тому

    A LOT OF KEVLAR/GUT COMBOS THEN?

  • @youngsuit
    @youngsuit 2 роки тому

    ive never heard about luxilon making medical equipment - anyone got a source?

  • @mchan87bns
    @mchan87bns 2 роки тому

    Check out Yonex Multi-sensa125 , poly Multifilament

  • @rudolferasmus7495
    @rudolferasmus7495 3 роки тому +1

    Could you pls review the dunlop xlt-15 tennis racket.
    I have one and would want to know if it could hold up in modern day tennis. And if i can continue using it

  • @mariobikic184
    @mariobikic184 3 роки тому +1

    Hi please answer me i will be realy happy becouse of your opinion,i have bought a Rf97L version and changed the sytetic grip with leather babolat grip and now its 300g unstrung i am advanced/intermiadiate player i have trained tennis couple of years and my question is how to make my raquet similar to wilson blade with weight not to be to much head heavy like 305gunstrung where sgould i put lead tape on the raquet is it 3 and 9 and how much.
    Thanks for the answer i have been wathing all of your videos you are great 😀

  • @homosapien5156
    @homosapien5156 3 роки тому +1

    Isn't tecnifibre triax a multi poly ?

    • @eloneatmyshorts
      @eloneatmyshorts 3 роки тому +2

      No not in the way you’re thinking. Harry’s definition of a “multi-poly” is taking hundreds/thousands of poly strands and wrapping itself together like a multifilament string.
      What you’re thinking is a multi and poly combo hybrid build like the Triax. Which IMO is phenomenal in its achievement of having gut like feel with positive qualities of a poly (snap back, durable, high slick coefficient).

    • @vectorthurm
      @vectorthurm 3 роки тому

      I broke strings for Triax after 3-4 hours so not durable enough for me...felt good but not any different than any other multi-filament....not worth the price IMO.

    • @K4R3N
      @K4R3N 3 роки тому

      I'm using Triax 17 g right now, feels good. Got about 10-12 hours of hitting so far on it, definitely fraying but hasnt snapped yet and still feels good.

  • @OfficialZeroN
    @OfficialZeroN 3 роки тому

    I live in Europe and over here confidential is not available. I'd love to try it tho. Do they sell the string under a different brand over here or is it just not available in Europe for whatever reason?

    • @CoDINmyHEART
      @CoDINmyHEART 3 роки тому

      Tennis warehouse europe man, damn...

  • @tennisthroughtrailanderror
    @tennisthroughtrailanderror 3 роки тому +2

    Sir with all due respect I'll like to point out that your wrong. Actually co-poly maintain tension better than poly, infact with poly you'll have to restrung more frequently. Humble request to first get your facts straight before posting an video. I'm one of your subscriber, love the topics of your videos. Again didn't mean to hurt your feelings, like to apologise for being so blunt

  • @Invesre
    @Invesre 3 роки тому +2

    Any1 tried weedwacker or fisher string on a racqet? ;D

    • @vectorthurm
      @vectorthurm 3 роки тому +1

      Maybe that’s what the first Poly was😆

    • @Invesre
      @Invesre 3 роки тому

      @@vectorthurm iv just read an old post and someone did that.

    • @fingersm
      @fingersm 3 роки тому

      Yes

    • @bowsershark
      @bowsershark 3 роки тому

      Weedwacker is to brittle for tennis 😊. Fishing string is not elastic enough for tennis. Yet, there were some metal based strings back in the day. But, they quickly ate through the crosses like poop thru a goose.

  • @dhartarz4109
    @dhartarz4109 3 роки тому

    What kinda strings are arm Friendly? Recently I uses the Wilson Clash 100L racquet and use the Babolat RPM BLAST Spin Control 120/18, in it.

    • @erichaynes7502
      @erichaynes7502 3 роки тому

      Synthetic Gut or Natural Gut are really the only arm friendly strings. Polyesters are very stiff, not arm friendly so it can easily cause tennis elbow and other arm problems. However, I have a racket designed to prevent tennis elbow(Volkl V1 Classic) it has 2 dampeners inside the grip to prevent all the shock going to the arm/elbow. Because I have this racket I can play with polyester string without having arm problems. If I didn't have this racket I'd have to use only Synthetic or Natural Gut. I play about 15-20 hours a week if you play a lot less you might not have to worry about all this.

    • @dhartarz4109
      @dhartarz4109 3 роки тому

      Thanks for the reply. Actually, I put Solinco Confodential 120/17g right now on my Wilson Clash 100L. It feels comfortable to my arm.

  • @amorco
    @amorco 3 роки тому +3

    Luxilon only lasts as its tension when first played, never more than a few days or a week, but the playability is extremely better than any other co-poly strings in the market, that is why they are still the #1 string maker/seller in the world. Companies like Solinco makes strings that will lasts tension longer due to the co-polymer technology, but does not play as well as the Luxilon strings. Maybe you can figure out why Luxilon is still the best when it is the first generation string - ALU used first by Guga Kuerten in 1997. By the way the company PolyStar came in the tennis market before Luxilon in the early 80s(1981) with their first original polyester tennis strings (Classic)used by a few pros in Europe, mainly swiss players. But PolyStar did not make it in the American market in the 80s because those strings were terrible and expensive.

    • @SanjitMandal
      @SanjitMandal 3 роки тому

      After cracking volley after volley on Monday seems my arm for a good workout (maybe tennis elbow or just a good forearm workout)...could be my ALU Power strings, not I'm looking at Hyper G, Confidential, and maybe some others? Suggestions?

    • @amorco
      @amorco 3 роки тому +1

      @@SanjitMandal Actually Luxilon are softer than Hyper G, but never tried Confidential. Definitely try other polys other than Luxilon, there are so many. Try blending with multifilaments crosses or even gut, to relieve that pain.

    • @SanjitMandal
      @SanjitMandal 3 роки тому

      @@amorco You are right, just checked out the numbers, but it seems softer? odd...have you tried Kirschbaum Pro Line Evolution? Half the cost of ALU Power. Seeking some lower price point strings than ALU Power.

    • @amorco
      @amorco 3 роки тому +2

      @@SanjitMandal I've tried Pro Line but its not even close to ALU. The closest feel and longer tension stability would be the Head Lynx Tour. Great string that feels like ALU or better and on sale at TW: www.tennis-warehouse.com/Head_Lynx_Tour_17_String/descpageACHEAD-LTR17.html

    • @SanjitMandal
      @SanjitMandal 3 роки тому

      @@amorco Awesome, I will check it out as well as razor code and ice code.

  • @TyRaff
    @TyRaff 3 роки тому +1

    What is the highest tension you have ever had a pro ask their strings to be tensions at?

    • @fingersm
      @fingersm 3 роки тому +1

      Some guy play Alu power at 80pds

    • @msalvs
      @msalvs 3 роки тому +4

      Is it Dustin Brown?

    • @fingersm
      @fingersm 3 роки тому

      @@msalvs yup
      As well as some very good rec players.
      Im going to try it on my clash 98 next

  • @Fred_P
    @Fred_P 3 роки тому +2

    Both Hyper-G and Confidential are 5 sided, why would you say they are square and 6 sided when they're the same (not different) and have 5 sides? I guess on average you're right 😂

    • @CoDINmyHEART
      @CoDINmyHEART 3 роки тому +1

      They are actually 4 sided both of them. i would recommend to know your shit before correcting someone else. Even though i agree he makes a lot of facts mistakes regularly.

    • @Fred_P
      @Fred_P 3 роки тому +1

      @@CoDINmyHEART Here's a picture of the cross section of Tour Bite. i.imgur.com/J0E9csM.png
      Hyper-G and Confidential have the same cross section, just look for yourself. I would recommend to know your shit before correcting someone else.

    • @mattblvr1
      @mattblvr1 3 роки тому +1

      Don’t know what that picture is.......they are both square, same as tour bite.

    • @Fred_P
      @Fred_P 3 роки тому +1

      @@mattblvr1 I've already said what the picture is. Here's the source. tt.tennis-warehouse.com/index.php?threads/what-is-the-correlation-of-the-number-of-edges-in-a-shaped-poly-have-to-do-with-spin-potential.646211/post-13572319
      If you want to claim otherwise, please follow the steps provided and show the square cross section. If you do, post it there as well as the guy will buy you a reel and send it to you. Until you do, you have nothing to bring to the conversation.

  • @slerk9
    @slerk9 3 роки тому

    6:07 120mm = 4.7 inches so that’s not correct.

    • @Fred_P
      @Fred_P 3 роки тому

      He meant 1.20 mm, but misspoke.

  • @victorou1183
    @victorou1183 3 роки тому

    A

  • @mariobikic184
    @mariobikic184 3 роки тому

    Hi please answer me i will be realy happy becouse of your opinion,i have bought a Rf97L version and changed the sytetic grip with leather babolat grip and now its 300g unstrung i am advanced/intermiadiate player i have trained tennis couple of years and my question is how to make my raquet similar to wilson blade with weight not to be to much head heavy like 305gunstrung where sgould i put lead tape on the raquet is it 3 and 9 and how much.
    Thanks for the answer i have been wathing all of your videos you are great 😀

  • @mariobikic184
    @mariobikic184 3 роки тому

    Hi please answer me i will be realy happy becouse of your opinion,i have bought a Rf97L version and changed the sytetic grip with leather babolat grip and now its 300g unstrung i am advanced/intermiadiate player i have trained tennis couple of years and my question is how to make my raquet similar to wilson blade with weight not to be to much head heavy like 305gunstrung where sgould i put lead tape on the raquet is it 3 and 9 and how much.
    Thanks for the answer i have been wathing all of your videos you are great 😀