dude you are so to the point-super easy to understand(me being a drummer). i just watch like 6 minutes of this......and you admit your little mistakes...so realistic...because we all make them--especially when experimenting with something new.....so cool,,,great job so far...continue to grow,,,,
As a drummer who's followed your work for years, I gotta say this was a VERY welcome surprise. Couldn't even wait to finish watching before commenting, that's how excited I am! Cheers from north of the border.
awesome! I've been trying to get the time and budget to make this for well over two years! I'm glad it took this long, tho, as I think the results are better now than they would have been then.
@@MortonLuvz2drum can't steam bend plies that are already glued without them separating and getting wrecked. That's the challenge of reclaiming old doors - and fun!
So now when you get the band together to play "The Doors".....it means something completely different. There's a LOT of science to drum building..... and your first effort is valiant.
Part of the reason you aren't getting the snare sound you want is that you are using a 2 ply pinstripe head on the snare top. Switch it to a coated ambassador and it will increase the sensitivity. Also having so few lugs and low end lugs on the snare also is a factor. That being said, they do sound really good, that kick especially
All manufacturing companies I.E. Yamaha, Ludwig, DW, Sonar all have different methods of making a drum shell.... You're design for drum shells was nothing compared to these drum giants. But , you knocked it out the park. Cheap hardware and reclaim wood. Sounds good and look good. Good job!! Remo heads for free , nice touch.
Nice work, I build and modify drums, and I never considered your method of making a template out of paper for the hole layout. That’s a very low tech way to do something like that efficiently and accurately. Cheers!
@@timsway I use a layout mat I got for free, but obviously in your position I don’t expect you have templates lying around for this kind of thing. Cool idea. Have you ever seen segment and stave shell drum building? You could probably build one of those with little experience on shell construction.
Been a session/touring drummer for over 40 years and have never played anything outside Drum-workshop. At least tracking and live performance. Right off the top I figured the sound was going to be dreadful with this build, but it was a very pleasant surprise to hear that the sound is very good. Birtch wood has a very fast attack with resonance/sustain cut usually shy just about a 3rd. of a note. This is what I believe I am hearing. Maple on the other hand is much bolder with a bit more warmth and sustain. Very creative, great craftsmanship and great sound. I give it a 10! 👍
lots of Credit and thumbs Up to you ! I’m a retired WoodWorker and over the years i did many Side Jobs for Customers wanting to replace flat Hollow Core doors for the Newer look of 6 Panel Ones of course i had to do it myself as it helped put Food onmy Table but i always explained that they were basically replacing real Wood doors with Ground up Wood and Recycled NewsPaper and Cardboard ones they usually didn’t care and just wanted to Update their aging home to a newer look for resale ? for me it was Easy Money as i have all the Equipment and did Solid Core Commercial Doors for Years so carrying lightweight ones were easy and almost enjoyable to do on my day off
What you did was way more impressive and impactful than most of the so-called “custom” drum makers out there who buy shells from Keller, hire an experienced artist to apply a polyester finish, assemble with commodity hardware, and charge $4K for a 3-pc. Just awesome.
I dont agree.. the kit you built is of superior quality to the one you dismantled... Truly amazing work... you prove that "just doing it" can take you places you never thought possible.. I would love to see you make another kit out of some more exotic woods..
My son and I are luthiers. You're right. Like you, we started off learning how to make guitars by taking apart old ones lying around the house. In our case, I had a cheap Strat knock off that we took apart. Then I bought a couple of books on guitar making from Amazon. Now, we make custom guitars, both solid bodies and acoustics. We even learned how to wind killer pick ups. I thoroughly enjoyed your video. Cheers from the Philippines.
I love this build so much! Only thing I’d suggest, if someone hasn’t said this yet, is getting a “snare side” head for the snare drum before cutting the snare beds any further. It looks like you just have on an ambassador clear @23:59; those are too thick and don’t give great snare response. Otherwise I really enjoyed it! Hope to see more drumset builds in the future :)
I fabricated a 3 box system that holds a whole drum kit Seat , pedals , stands , cymbal , drums . Yes the whole kit In turn the 3 boxes lock together , upside down , and form a drum riser Someday I will make a video This build is COOL Now have to pull up ur other build videos Cheers
Very nice work. Ive made a couple snare drums in my past but never the whole kit. I recently switched to electronic drums and ill never look back. When i had acoustic drums i spent 80 percent of my time tuning and twaeking to get the sound i never found.
This is really awesome! We had a old birch drum kit in our house when the kids were growing. We actually had a lot of instruments. We just wanted to have instruments around,just for enrichment. Maybe one of them would find interest and try and learn to really play something. Great video! Love everything you do Tim! Keep it up! Peace ☮️
thanks man. Having a house full of instruments is a great idea for child development. My 11 year old son drifts in and out of interest in them (heavy interest starting now). I've never forced it on him like a chore, I just leave it available and nurture the interest when it's there.
Hi ! Not only are you talented as a drum kit builder / creator but, you are also a very gifted drummer ! What more can one pray for??? God Bless ! Talent, skill, workmanship. . . You have it all ! Continue well ! I enjoyed your video very much. . .
My name is Victor and oh I'm pretty impressed with the with your closet door with the yeah closet or a drum set of amazing I've been paid for 50 years professionally and will cash it also that backed up certain artists and it's great keep going and I'll watch more but other your data made the job it's a great tone this Victor the hotter and California and that's really well I'm pretty pretty impressed and it made my day signing off thank you and I hope to hear from you for more from you thank you very much
The drummer is right...lots of drummers would kill for that sound! As a Drum-Tech I can tell you that in the studio where sound is the priority and looks don't matter, I seen some very cheap drums produce killer sound! To the point that endorsers used cheap other stuff to record, instead of what they endorse. That it is your first drum, doesn't mean that you didn't hit the nail on the head 😉. In the end it's an instrument and the sound is what matters! Great job👍🏻👍🏻
That's one happy drummer's smile that I see. 'Are we gonna do a performance on these instruments together?' Man, that's a compliment that is for realz!
That wood is either Birch or Myrtle. Both are popular woods for making hollow core doors from. Neat idea, though, to create drum shells from closet door skins. -b
You deserve a million views if energy and time are considered in the making of this!! I'm halfway thru and tired just watching. GOOD LUCK my Man. PEACE.
This was about the coolest thing EVER- not crazy about the 'Exorcist Green' paint color, lol, but thats your thing- I painted for about 35 years and you did a fine job. If i didnt already have the Taiwan made John Bonham silver sparkle Ludwigs id be looking at these Luan doors from the 60s im about to drag to the street very differently right now. Im also busy with other projects so im lucky to have time to play em at all. But ive got to say- i really LOVE DIY and good old American ingenuity, and youve got em both in spades. And your buddy on drums there did a GREAT job tuning them up and playing some hot licks on them. You made them way better than they ever would have been originally, cos ive owned some real junk in the past, and its not easy. Ive gone as far as stripping them and re finishing several kits and they didnt come out as well. Good on ya and thanks for 30 minutes well spent. Now to drag these doors to the curb-
I think steaming the plys around a mold like they do with guitar body sides is the way to go on drums. I don't know how that could be done with common household stuff though. Interesting connun-drum...get it?
I knew you would do these justice going in, as you always do, and i am still surprised how well they turned out. They sound great. Kudos to your buddy for the slick beats and tuning too make them come alive!
You can do angled seams like Yamaha does. Most likely easier in some ways. Less, or a different glue may be an option to look into as well. I'm still blown away at this project and kudos to you!!!
Wow. I'm impressed. Trust me on this... those sound much better than the drums you used to make you patterns/jigs from. The toms have good resonance even with those pinstripe heads which are intended to dampen resonance. The bass and snare sound fine but would sound better with different heads meant for snare and bass. Kudos for a great job.
Such a fun project. As proof of concept, I'd say you nailed it. When I worked in the instrument repair shop, one of my jobs was to replace heads and hardware on the drums. Had no idea what I was doing tuning the heads, other than making them consistent. It always impresses me to see the changes that are achievable by somebody who does actually know what they are doing. These drums look and sound great! Next hollow core door instrument? Clarinet might be kind of tricky... Thanks for sharing!
Regarding the snare. Try loosening both the snare head and put more slack on the springs. That should save you from having to fool with the bed. Also, as a rule of thumb you want the bottom heads to just be about 1/2-3/4 turns past hand tight (so tuned lower than the top heads) to get them to resonate well. Lastly, the toms should be tuned to the intervals of I,IV,V with I being the floor tom. Just some advice from a recording engineer with many decades of experience. Epic build!!
Just curious to understand your advise regarding the I, IV, V tuning.. Assuming that refers to two rack toms and a floor tom, what intervals would you tune a single rack tom and floor tom to? Thanks
The snare not having a snarey-enough sound is a tuning thing as well as head choice. A clear head on the snare will have a lot clearer of an attack than a coated head.
As a woodworker, drummer and cheapskate, I found this a fascinating video. You probably know by know that you are insane! There are several points I would mention to you. If you examine older drums made in the 40s through the 70s before hardcore factory techniques were adopted to make the shells, you'll see that the layers were often overlapped in what is essentially a scarf joint. The ends of each layer were planed down to almost nothing and overlap by the amount planed, usually a couple inches or so. That might be difficult to achieve with the material you were using, but I might suggest a simple jig to get the correct angle and then a belt sander rather than a planer to sand the angle. This scarf joint gives a little more room for alignment error than you had. Another thing you didn't mention but which gets my attention as a drummer is the bearing edge. By using a million kerfs to allow bending, you will necessarily introduce those kerfs to the bearing edge. That's not ideal for acoustical properties. What you might consider is filling the drum edges with a two-part epoxy such as System Three before you cut the edges on the router table. That would fill in the ragged kerfs and allow for a smoother bearing edge. I suppose you could try steam bending rather than the kerfs, but I don't know how well that material would take to the steam. Probably not well. Obviously You'll have some out-of-round issues when hand forming shells like this, which will tend to reduce sustain on the drums and sometimes make tuning inconsistent. As long as you can avoid the bearing edges bumping out far enough to touch the head rings you'll probably be okay. However, I did notice you had the tom lugs located a little too close to the rims. You could bring those toward the center of the drum by another 1/4 to 1/2 inch to allow for greater tuning range. That depression you cut in the bearing edge for the snares is a traditional touch, but not necessarily used on modern drums. You could probably omit that step and not suffer for it. Anyway, loved watching and I hope you'll try something similar again!
I tried this before with Masonite for the outside veneer on some low end piece of crap kit. Big failure on my part. You on the other hand Patience is a virtue and your woodworking skills are a big plus. 🥁🤙🏼
The strange thing for all this Work is why you follow the construction of the cheap old set you have but not an bass drum with 10lugs, a snare with the same 10 lugs too cause you made it from scratch so you could do whatever you want you just can do a small research on the internet to find a hole drilling template for all lug construction drums and thats it. Finally when i listen this kit i find it very nice sounding and reminds me a Ludwig Maple kit that i heard some weeks before.It sounds unexpectedly good!! So your job not became lost you must be proud for your work!! Hope you do a custom stave kit for the next with more research cause you had it and you own all the necessary tools for anything!! Nice Job Man!!!
Very nice work, liked a lot. also, there are some of my favorite Neil Peart triplets on 26:00 , really nice to hear it with the deep of tuning you used on the drums
Awesome! That snare has a lot of room to to do a lot more. Pull the Pinstripe off that baby and slap an Ambassador or emperor on, bring that felt back a little bit and look out. When I would refurb drums, I didn't build them, but what I did was, I used SOS pads to do all the Chrome and if it was just slightly Rusty or dirty but not missing Chrome, they would shine up like a diamond. Learned that when I used to do bicycle rims as a kid LOL. Pretty sure all those lugs and rims could have been reused if you didn't replace them. Couldn't tell if you did or not. I wish I was that good with wood man. Although I have used clamps and Gorilla Glue to fix the soles on shoes LOL
@@timsway The sound is all dependent on the heads. A drum shell is simply a means of holding and tensioning the head. The resonant properties of the shell material in addition to the hardware will mute certain frequencies of the head. So a very low density material would mute most of the high frequencies while the opposite occurs with dense materials. Having perfectly round shells with flat parallel edges that make good contact with the head are the most important details of a drum shell. Nice job on those shells. You manufactured better shells than many drum companies from the mid 20th century.
hats Of To bothTim Friend Great Drum Sound Not Bad for First Time dDrum Build 😜💯 I’ve Been a builder /woodworker and Drummer Since very Young 4-5 yrs of Age ( now 60 and Still Jamm’n / Building You Guy Rock AND ROLL ‘N my Book you Are An Awe-sum DRUMMER Dude
Really, great big work! You deserves applause! Tom-toms and bass drum sound just killing! Your a snare sounds very good too. But it will work even better if to use special heads for that. One-layer coated head on a top - Remo Ambassador or Evans Genera. Аnd for bottom side - thin head, like "hazy 300" by Evans or something.
I wish I had a shop like yours with all the equipment you have but making those drums is very labor intensive. May as well just buy a set but if you have the time then I guess go for it.
Two things I hope you and anyone else reading this finds useful. 1: Life is a collection of experiences, not things. 2: In a capitalist society, Time is an exchange for money. (and Time is a unit in which we measure Life). Example: I can wash my car in the driveway for free where it takes about an hour, or I can drive it through a 5 minute car wash and pay someone to do it. Both have the same results, one costs less money, more time and vice versa. If you enjoy the experience of washing cars, it makes no sense to pay someone at the car wash. If you have lots of other things to do that you enjoy more, trade some money for that time makes sense. I enjoy the process of learning how to make things from "trash" more than buying things, hence this video. I loved every minute of it! Now if you're REAL GOOD at finding this time/life/money balance, you find ways to monetize your time doing what you want to do. In this case, between sponsors and ad revenue, I got paid to do all this work! Following the car analogy, I got paid to wash my car, an act I enjoy, as long as I filmed it and used certain soap (both things I also use and enjoy). This doesn't happen over night. It takes years and years to not only figure out what really makes you happy, but to figure out a way to do it for a living. I also have had to trade my time for work I didn't love, but I used my spare time then doing the things I did love and finding a way to tip the scales in my favor. You can, too. There's no secret. It just takes a ton of hard work. But if you enjoy the work, is it really hard?
Killer work! Some green bass drum hoop inlays would really tie the whole thing together👌
I never even thought about hardware beyond the basic stuff I had from the junk kit. that's a great idea. thanks!
I was wondering if you would see this video…
@@malonedrum David and I were talking about this years ago. He's been with me since the start :)
when i saw it was drum diy and green i hoped Rdavidr find it
I was half expecting you to walk in and be the drummer at the end of the video!
Can u make a vocalist out of a reclaimed canoe please.
😂😂😂
What...? Kanoo or kangoo?
A reclaimed Kangoo would fit better for its got a big tail and big bag😂
Awesome
When one of your buds plays an instrument you made and they're all grins, you know you did good! Stellar cans my dude!
truth. Well, to be fair, Donny is just one of those smiley, positive types - which is one of the reasons why we're friends.
dude you are so to the point-super easy to understand(me being a drummer). i just watch like 6 minutes of this......and you admit your little mistakes...so realistic...because we all make them--especially when experimenting with something new.....so cool,,,great job so far...continue to grow,,,,
That paper template for marking out the holes for the hardware was really ingenious
As a drummer who's followed your work for years, I gotta say this was a VERY welcome surprise. Couldn't even wait to finish watching before commenting, that's how excited I am! Cheers from north of the border.
awesome! I've been trying to get the time and budget to make this for well over two years! I'm glad it took this long, tho, as I think the results are better now than they would have been then.
@@timsway Sometimes things just work out like that! At any rate the end result is glorious and very well worth the wait.
I may watch this later. Got to the 6:20 mark and couldn't believe that he wasn't going to try and steam bend those. That's the way it is done.
@@MortonLuvz2drum can't steam bend plies that are already glued without them separating and getting wrecked. That's the challenge of reclaiming old doors - and fun!
@@timsway Good point.
awesome build
So now when you get the band together to play "The Doors".....it means something completely different. There's a LOT of science to drum building..... and your first effort is valiant.
Great build video. I look forward to seeing the recycle band........
Part of the reason you aren't getting the snare sound you want is that you are using a 2 ply pinstripe head on the snare top. Switch it to a coated ambassador and it will increase the sensitivity. Also having so few lugs and low end lugs on the snare also is a factor.
That being said, they do sound really good, that kick especially
That's a great point!!
Makes sense. Love the toms, though!
All manufacturing companies
I.E. Yamaha, Ludwig, DW, Sonar all have different methods of making a drum shell.... You're design for drum shells was nothing compared to these drum giants. But , you knocked it out the park. Cheap hardware
and reclaim wood.
Sounds good and look good.
Good job!! Remo heads for free , nice touch.
Nice work, I build and modify drums, and I never considered your method of making a template out of paper for the hole layout. That’s a very low tech way to do something like that efficiently and accurately. Cheers!
Glad to help! Seemed easier than doing the math. Lol
@@timsway I use a layout mat I got for free, but obviously in your position I don’t expect you have templates lying around for this kind of thing. Cool idea.
Have you ever seen segment and stave shell drum building? You could probably build one of those with little experience on shell construction.
@@malonedrum yes, I'm familiar with stave drums. I wouldn't mind doing something like that
Been a session/touring drummer for over 40 years and have never played anything outside Drum-workshop. At least tracking and live performance. Right off the top I figured the sound was going to be dreadful with this build, but it was a very pleasant surprise to hear that the sound is very good. Birtch wood has a very fast attack with resonance/sustain cut usually shy just about a 3rd. of a note. This is what I believe I am hearing. Maple on the other hand is much bolder with a bit more warmth and sustain. Very creative, great craftsmanship and great sound. I give it a 10! 👍
lots of Credit and thumbs Up to you ! I’m a retired WoodWorker and over the years i did many Side Jobs for Customers wanting to replace flat Hollow Core doors for the Newer look of 6 Panel Ones of course i had to do it myself as it helped put Food onmy Table but i always explained that they were basically replacing real Wood doors with Ground up Wood and Recycled NewsPaper and Cardboard ones they usually didn’t care and just wanted to Update their aging home to a newer look for resale ? for me it was Easy Money as i have all the Equipment and did Solid Core Commercial Doors for Years so carrying lightweight ones were easy and almost enjoyable to do on my day off
What you did was way more impressive and impactful than most of the so-called “custom” drum makers out there who buy shells from Keller, hire an experienced artist to apply a polyester finish, assemble with commodity hardware, and charge $4K for a 3-pc. Just awesome.
I dont agree.. the kit you built is of superior quality to the one you dismantled... Truly amazing work... you prove that "just doing it" can take you places you never thought possible..
I would love to see you make another kit out of some more exotic woods..
Very Cool repurposing wood project.
My son and I are luthiers. You're right. Like you, we started off learning how to make guitars by taking apart old ones lying around the house. In our case, I had a cheap Strat knock off that we took apart. Then I bought a couple of books on guitar making from Amazon. Now, we make custom guitars, both solid bodies and acoustics. We even learned how to wind killer pick ups. I thoroughly enjoyed your video. Cheers from the Philippines.
Fun little jam at the end.
Can't wait to hear the whole hollow core band.
neither can I
I love this build so much! Only thing I’d suggest, if someone hasn’t said this yet, is getting a “snare side” head for the snare drum before cutting the snare beds any further. It looks like you just have on an ambassador clear @23:59; those are too thick and don’t give great snare response. Otherwise I really enjoyed it! Hope to see more drumset builds in the future :)
Super cool my friend.
I fabricated a 3 box system that holds a whole drum kit
Seat , pedals , stands , cymbal , drums . Yes the whole kit
In turn the 3 boxes lock together , upside down , and form a drum riser
Someday I will make a video
This build is COOL
Now have to pull up ur other build videos
Cheers
I hope there are many Tim Sways out there, repurposing unloved wood.
What a great philosophy you have regarding recycling.
This is one of the absolute best videos I've ever seen. From zero to a working kit. I can't tell you how great this was.
thanks!
Very nice work. Ive made a couple snare drums in my past but never the whole kit. I recently switched to electronic drums and ill never look back. When i had acoustic drums i spent 80 percent of my time tuning and twaeking to get the sound i never found.
Building drums is a blast. Very satisfying.
This is really awesome! We had a old birch drum kit in our house when the kids were growing. We actually had a lot of instruments. We just wanted to have instruments around,just for enrichment. Maybe one of them would find interest and try and learn to really play something. Great video! Love everything you do Tim! Keep it up! Peace ☮️
thanks man. Having a house full of instruments is a great idea for child development. My 11 year old son drifts in and out of interest in them (heavy interest starting now). I've never forced it on him like a chore, I just leave it available and nurture the interest when it's there.
Hi ! Not only are you talented as a drum kit builder / creator but, you are also a very gifted drummer ! What more can one pray for??? God Bless ! Talent, skill, workmanship. . . You have it all ! Continue well ! I enjoyed your video very much. . .
My name is Victor and oh I'm pretty impressed with the with your closet door with the yeah closet or a drum set of amazing I've been paid for 50 years professionally and will cash it also that backed up certain artists and it's great keep going and I'll watch more but other your data made the job it's a great tone this Victor the hotter and California and that's really well I'm pretty pretty impressed and it made my day signing off thank you and I hope to hear from you for more from you thank you very much
The drummer is right...lots of drummers would kill for that sound! As a Drum-Tech I can tell you that in the studio where sound is the priority and looks don't matter, I seen some very cheap drums produce killer sound! To the point that endorsers used cheap other stuff to record, instead of what they endorse. That it is your first drum, doesn't mean that you didn't hit the nail on the head 😉. In the end it's an instrument and the sound is what matters! Great job👍🏻👍🏻
That's one happy drummer's smile that I see.
'Are we gonna do a performance on these instruments together?'
Man, that's a compliment that is for realz!
As a drummer, I wasn't expecting this, but wishing for it. The drums turned out great! Love that combination of the green and the wood finish.
That wood is either Birch or Myrtle. Both are popular woods for making hollow core doors from. Neat idea, though, to create drum shells from closet door skins. -b
This is so cool but also is that old dot matrix printer paper for template paper around the 20:17 mark?! Love to see it
yes. I have stacks of it I dug out of an old office building
@@timsway love it! That’s so cool.
You deserve a million views if energy and time are considered in the making of this!! I'm halfway thru and tired just watching. GOOD LUCK my Man.
PEACE.
Very good job sound good
This all goes to show that ~~ "even if you are Left-Handed"~~ you can still
MAKE AMAZING STUFF!! Props to you Young Man. Mad Skills.
That's so cool!
This was about the coolest thing EVER-
not crazy about the 'Exorcist Green' paint color, lol, but thats your thing-
I painted for about 35 years and you did a fine job.
If i didnt already have the Taiwan made John Bonham silver sparkle Ludwigs id be looking at these Luan doors from the 60s im about to drag to the street very differently right now.
Im also busy with other projects so im lucky to have time to play em at all.
But ive got to say- i really LOVE DIY and good old American ingenuity, and youve got em both in spades.
And your buddy on drums there did a GREAT job tuning them up and playing some hot licks on them.
You made them way better than they ever would have been originally, cos ive owned some real junk in the past, and its not easy.
Ive gone as far as stripping them and re finishing several kits and they didnt come out as well.
Good on ya and thanks for 30 minutes well spent.
Now to drag these doors to the curb-
Damn, using the table saw fence as a stop for your miter saw too is genius
I think steaming the plys around a mold like they do with guitar body sides is the way to go on drums. I don't know how that could be done with common household stuff though. Interesting connun-drum...get it?
You're right I wouldn't have dismantled a good set of drums to do what you did but they turned out good. You definitely got them for the right price.
Great video explaining measurements and cutting diameters very educational good job on the drum.
I knew you would do these justice going in, as you always do, and i am still surprised how well they turned out. They sound great. Kudos to your buddy for the slick beats and tuning too make them come alive!
Good stuff as usual. This made me realize that I can make a Bohdran out of a Nordic drum shell and other off the shelf parts. Thanks!✌️🌞😎🎻
That sounds great for just knocking on doors!!!
You can do angled seams like Yamaha does. Most likely easier in some ways. Less, or a different glue may be an option to look into as well. I'm still blown away at this project and kudos to you!!!
Very nice!
This is just delightful, man. Loved it through and through. The kit looks incredibly good and I think it sounds great too!
thank you!
Really cool!
Wow. I'm impressed. Trust me on this... those sound much better than the drums you used to make you patterns/jigs from. The toms have good resonance even with those pinstripe heads which are intended to dampen resonance. The bass and snare sound fine but would sound better with different heads meant for snare and bass. Kudos for a great job.
Very impressive!! So much work goes into making a drum shell .
I think it's a lot easier when done right with the right tools and materials :)
Killer job! Josh Freese, Brooks Wackerman, Bill Stevenson, Dave Mello, and hundreds of other drummers would be happy to have a set that nice!
I'll be honest I am very impressed, I wanna try this!!!
Gaad influenced for sure. Great stuff. Good job on the kit, had the right dude demo it for you.
Such a fun project. As proof of concept, I'd say you nailed it. When I worked in the instrument repair shop, one of my jobs was to replace heads and hardware on the drums. Had no idea what I was doing tuning the heads, other than making them consistent. It always impresses me to see the changes that are achievable by somebody who does actually know what they are doing. These drums look and sound great! Next hollow core door instrument? Clarinet might be kind of tricky... Thanks for sharing!
Regarding the snare. Try loosening both the snare head and put more slack on the springs. That should save you from having to fool with the bed. Also, as a rule of thumb you want the bottom heads to just be about 1/2-3/4 turns past hand tight (so tuned lower than the top heads) to get them to resonate well. Lastly, the toms should be tuned to the intervals of I,IV,V with I being the floor tom.
Just some advice from a recording engineer with many decades of experience. Epic build!!
Just curious to understand your advise regarding the I, IV, V tuning.. Assuming that refers to two rack toms and a floor tom, what intervals would you tune a single rack tom and floor tom to?
Thanks
The snare not having a snarey-enough sound is a tuning thing as well as head choice. A clear head on the snare will have a lot clearer of an attack than a coated head.
As a woodworker, drummer and cheapskate, I found this a fascinating video. You probably know by know that you are insane! There are several points I would mention to you. If you examine older drums made in the 40s through the 70s before hardcore factory techniques were adopted to make the shells, you'll see that the layers were often overlapped in what is essentially a scarf joint. The ends of each layer were planed down to almost nothing and overlap by the amount planed, usually a couple inches or so. That might be difficult to achieve with the material you were using, but I might suggest a simple jig to get the correct angle and then a belt sander rather than a planer to sand the angle. This scarf joint gives a little more room for alignment error than you had.
Another thing you didn't mention but which gets my attention as a drummer is the bearing edge. By using a million kerfs to allow bending, you will necessarily introduce those kerfs to the bearing edge. That's not ideal for acoustical properties. What you might consider is filling the drum edges with a two-part epoxy such as System Three before you cut the edges on the router table. That would fill in the ragged kerfs and allow for a smoother bearing edge. I suppose you could try steam bending rather than the kerfs, but I don't know how well that material would take to the steam. Probably not well.
Obviously You'll have some out-of-round issues when hand forming shells like this, which will tend to reduce sustain on the drums and sometimes make tuning inconsistent. As long as you can avoid the bearing edges bumping out far enough to touch the head rings you'll probably be okay. However, I did notice you had the tom lugs located a little too close to the rims. You could bring those toward the center of the drum by another 1/4 to 1/2 inch to allow for greater tuning range. That depression you cut in the bearing edge for the snares is a traditional touch, but not necessarily used on modern drums. You could probably omit that step and not suffer for it. Anyway, loved watching and I hope you'll try something similar again!
Ohsem job.. u should invite Ian Paice to test it...😁👍👍👍👍👍
I tried this before with Masonite for the outside veneer on some low end piece of crap kit. Big failure on my part. You on the other hand Patience is a virtue and your woodworking skills are a big plus.
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The strange thing for all this Work is why you follow the construction of the cheap old set you have but not an bass drum with 10lugs, a snare with the same 10 lugs too cause you made it from scratch so you could do whatever you want you just can do a small research on the internet to find a hole drilling template for all lug construction drums and thats it. Finally when i listen this kit i find it very nice sounding and reminds me a Ludwig Maple kit that i heard some weeks before.It sounds unexpectedly good!! So your job not became lost you must be proud for your work!! Hope you do a custom stave kit for the next with more research cause you had it and you own all the necessary tools for anything!! Nice Job Man!!!
You could use the old kick or floor tom shells to make an upright bass banjo.
The green stripes are really cool!
very nice job....:)
I like the a nature finish ...
I´m a guitar builder and these are amazing and great work.... love it.
I used too be A Evans head guy but recently went to Remo. They are better imo.Great work Tim.Such dedication 👏
Wow! Amazing! Great job! I started watching this thinking, "Maybe I can make me some drums out of old hollow doors." Uh, no way. Really blown away.
they sound awesome - great job dude! I think a coated batter head on the snare would make it even better.
Awesome job, Sir!!! They sound great for being recycled doors!
This video deserves a million+ views. Great wood work.
Nice job, sir. I can't say I'm a fan of the green paint. But my taste in color aside, beautiful kit.
Very nice work, liked a lot. also, there are some of my favorite Neil Peart triplets on 26:00 , really nice to hear it with the deep of tuning you used on the drums
Loved every minute of it! Can't wait to hear and see the studio sessions.
Wow !!! I really liked that work ! Sounds nice too !
These turned out great! I can't believe how good they sound.
I was skeptical of the green at first but it looks nice next to the lighter wood tone.
genius ! thanks alot !!!😁
Bold project to tackle. Nice work!
That Sir is awesome! As a drummer myself, that is fantastic that you were able to pull that off with some old doors ha. Amazing!
Awesome! That snare has a lot of room to to do a lot more. Pull the Pinstripe off that baby and slap an Ambassador or emperor on, bring that felt back a little bit and look out. When I would refurb drums, I didn't build them, but what I did was, I used SOS pads to do all the Chrome and if it was just slightly Rusty or dirty but not missing Chrome, they would shine up like a diamond. Learned that when I used to do bicycle rims as a kid LOL. Pretty sure all those lugs and rims could have been reused if you didn't replace them. Couldn't tell if you did or not. I wish I was that good with wood man. Although I have used clamps and Gorilla Glue to fix the soles on shoes LOL
Very inspiring stuff as I’ve been looking to create a diy ultra portable pancake kit. Top heads only
As a drummer and furniture maker, was surprised considering the materials but hey, sounds pretty good, especially the floor tom.
birch is birch and round is round! (Well, in this case, 'round enough' is 'round enough' :)
@@timsway The sound is all dependent on the heads. A drum shell is simply a means of holding and tensioning the head. The resonant properties of the shell material in addition to the hardware will mute certain frequencies of the head. So a very low density material would mute most of the high frequencies while the opposite occurs with dense materials. Having perfectly round shells with flat parallel edges that make good contact with the head are the most important details of a drum shell.
Nice job on those shells. You manufactured better shells than many drum companies from the mid 20th century.
hats Of To bothTim Friend Great Drum Sound Not Bad for First Time dDrum Build 😜💯 I’ve Been a builder /woodworker and Drummer Since very Young 4-5 yrs of Age ( now 60 and Still Jamm’n / Building You Guy Rock AND ROLL ‘N my Book you Are An Awe-sum DRUMMER Dude
Really, great big work! You deserves applause! Tom-toms and bass drum sound just killing! Your a snare sounds very good too. But it will work even better if to use special heads for that. One-layer coated head on a top - Remo Ambassador or Evans Genera. Аnd for bottom side - thin head, like "hazy 300" by Evans or something.
Awesome!
That sunset looks so sick in the background !! Looks super nuclear ! Goes perfect with the song . Very my bro .
Hollow core doors remind me of all the roach Haven motels I lived in as a child good times.
Wow thats a lot of work, pretty impressive
Thats just FN COOL!!!
nice work sir, my kit was taken by last big storm here in the philippines you made a good one,sounds good keep it up sir tim !!!
"The hollow cores" sounds like a good band.
Hollow Core is the style of music the band plays as I hope the genre grows beyond my work! The band name itself TBD. Leaning towards "Threshold."
@@timsway, How's 'bout "The Plies"? [Er, "The Ply's"?]
@@johnbesharian9965 I like that...
In thru the out door.... Again
Love seeing the process here! Lucky score on those nice doors. When your friend tuned up the snare it was pretty cool to hear the difference!
yea, there's a huge difference on what any instrument can do in the hands of someone who really understands it.
sounds & looks rad!
Awesome job! Toms sound slamming and the snare has such a distinct, controlled bite.
Thanks Tim well worth the wait. They sound and look great.
thanks amigo. They came out way better than I expected.
Useful tips for when I get around to making a kit.
Excellent job my friend I think you did fantastic work. 👍👍
Very good project sir, love the sound.
25:25 what a cool groove :) and drums sound great, and the look great too!
just is just all so great
I wish I had a shop like yours with all the equipment you have but making those drums is very labor intensive. May as well just buy a set but if you have the time then I guess go for it.
Two things I hope you and anyone else reading this finds useful.
1: Life is a collection of experiences, not things.
2: In a capitalist society, Time is an exchange for money. (and Time is a unit in which we measure Life).
Example: I can wash my car in the driveway for free where it takes about an hour, or I can drive it through a 5 minute car wash and pay someone to do it. Both have the same results, one costs less money, more time and vice versa.
If you enjoy the experience of washing cars, it makes no sense to pay someone at the car wash. If you have lots of other things to do that you enjoy more, trade some money for that time makes sense.
I enjoy the process of learning how to make things from "trash" more than buying things, hence this video. I loved every minute of it!
Now if you're REAL GOOD at finding this time/life/money balance, you find ways to monetize your time doing what you want to do. In this case, between sponsors and ad revenue, I got paid to do all this work! Following the car analogy, I got paid to wash my car, an act I enjoy, as long as I filmed it and used certain soap (both things I also use and enjoy).
This doesn't happen over night. It takes years and years to not only figure out what really makes you happy, but to figure out a way to do it for a living. I also have had to trade my time for work I didn't love, but I used my spare time then doing the things I did love and finding a way to tip the scales in my favor. You can, too.
There's no secret. It just takes a ton of hard work. But if you enjoy the work, is it really hard?