I’ve had this light in my pocket for just over a year and it’s never let me down, early mornings at the yard for work, inside basements of newly constructed high rise building or unpacking at night after work or a hunting trip. I love this light, I think I’m fenix for life 🙏🏼
I just picked up a pd25r and it’s replacing my surefire edc defender. In my opinion it’s just as nice material and the features are way better at a third the price. And the pd25r being rechargeable is amazing.
Been watching other videos on this light and this is easily one of the best. Majority of the others sound like an infomercial where they're just reading off the specs. I appreciate you going into details not given by the manufacturer and showing the light in action. Thank you!
I agree with you, tha user interface you mentioned (side switch for low modes and tail switch for turbo/strobe) would be perfect. Also, I'm glad to see Fenix increasing candela and catching up with the competition. It is almost perfect.
I just retired my original Fenix PD35 and it’s still going strong, the only reason I’ve retired it is because it has too much sentimental value to me for something to happen to it. So it’s nightstand duty from now on. I have surefires and stream lights but my PD35 will always be my favorite duty light
I had the original PD25 and it’s by far my favorite light. The size is perfect. Great power and runtime balance. Take the Fenix rechargeable battery or the standard CR123. Love but my son lost my clip and now the actual light too. So I think I’ll be picking this one up.
I loved your review and thankyou for your honest appraisal. I have this same light and for my needs it is perfect. I would like to say that I think that you are a little harsh about its memory of the last use output. I too want it to power on at the 5 lumen setting. From there I can cycle easily to whatever brightness I need. So, I've trained myself to power it down to minimum before switching it off. It's hardly an inconvenience on what is an excellent flashlight (or "torch" as we call them in the UK). Anyway keep up your great reviews........ Subbed🙂
Great review but can't disagree more about the UI. Having one button for power and one button for brightness is perfect and dead simple--exactly what I want. But I understand people have different preferences--I wish more flashlight manufacturers allowed the user to customize what the buttons do. Especially since a lot of flashlights already have USB C--just let me plug it into a computer and customize things with a simple utility.
Muy buen video! Muchas gracias. Hace unos meses que tengo la versión anterior (PD25) y la uso todos los días. Realmente tiene todo lo que busco en una linterna. Ese "defecto" en el UI es cuestión de costumbre: en mi caso, es cómodo saber que siempre voy a tener la linterna en bajo (que es el que más uso), sin tener que pasar por los otros modos. Saludos!
I don't mind the UI at all. I like how it turns on at the brightness I left it at. However I use mine at work, always turning it on and off. I would hate it if it either started on the highest setting or the lowest setting and than I had to adjust from one of those two points. I would constantly be fumbling with the mode button.
VERY good review - I fully agree: If it wasn't for the absolutely horrible (and inconsistent) user-interfaces Fenix could be very interesting! I was wondering why you didn't mention it: For a simple 16340-light the PD25 is way, WAY too big: with that 'footprint' in your pocket the light should at least use a 18350 battery!
I’ve had one for about 6 weeks. The only ‘flaw’ is I wish the body button was an on/off button too. Apart from that I love it. Wasn’t aware it works with Cr123s so cheers for mentioning that 👍🏻
I like the few Fenix lights that i have. But i do agree that having access to the low and high modes easily is important. I keep the Olight Baton 3 by my bed, and use it if i get up in the night or am up early. Just hold press to get to the moonlight mode. I'm not familiar with this Fenix model but does appear to be a very nice light. Thanks for another great review!
nice br i had all fenix lights, except head light i had only one for work, .. O light i had one.. 🤷🏽.. Fenix i don't know but i love to collect all of them.. 👍
My Olight Warrior Mini2 is my EDC as well and I also love Olights interface with the tailcap lights. I ultimately want a WM2 that can take CR123's as needed. My older Olight's could along with different brands of 18650's but none of the new ones allow that anymore.
I can't remember if I commented on this video before. I think I own every version of the single CR123 P series Fenix lights (and a bunch of the 2CR123/18650 PD30 series), from the original P1 in the late 2000s, P1D, P2D, PD20, etc etc. I've been EDCing the PD22 UE at home and PD25 when out, and finally got the PD25R last year. Unfortunately while I do like things like the charging port and output, I don't like the tint, I prefer the more floody light pattern of the previous lights, and I'm not a fan of the pocket clip placement. I'd prefer if they'd kept a deep pocket clip on it. As it stands, the PD25R just sits on my computer table as a backup and I'll continue using the PD22UE and PD25 til something better comes along.
My problem is the side buttons on those flashlights. I have an early model tactical light that is over 15 years old. It has three modes accessed by how you click the one rear button. One click is always high mode, two rapid clicks is low mode, and 3 clicks is strobe mode. All the people I know who have bought lights with side buttons have had them fail catastrophically and unexpectedly in 4 to 5 years.
I really enjoyed your review! You are spot on regarding the user interface. Due to being in LE, I, for tactical reasons want that max output from the tail cap only. And I'd leave the side switch on the 5 lumen mode so I can see menus in restaurants LOL! Basically, it needs the OL interface. I've been on the fence for so long for this light but I may just pass it up again. OL is coming out with the WM3 today and it seems to be even better than the WM2 although I'm thinking Feniix would still win on the build quality between the two. Keep up the great work!
I don't understand the problem with the UI , I actually really like it . I just cycle back the light at the lumen level I use the most before turning it off , this way it's at that level whenever I turn it back on . If you need to access the high output without cycling through the modes they make the tactical lineup for that . Fenix make brilliant quality flashlights for a competitive price , of course there's always room for improvement but overall they're one of the best imo .
@@maxlvledc After thinking about it , you've got a point mate . They could make use of the side button to give an instant turbo mode access , that would make the flashlight even better . Probably wouldn't cost that much more to make the change either .
A higher candela value is not automatically better. It depends entirely on what you want to do with the flashlight. Indoors I find a higher candela value even disadvantageous. And even if you want to illuminate the path in front of you, the candela value should not be too high. It's a bit like asking which is better, an off-road vehicle or a sports car. :)
I stopped using OLIGHT because it is not compatible with primary lithium batteries and most of there light naked plastic optic lens prone to scratch no AR coated glass like Fenix Great honest review!
I feel the exact same way about Fenix UI. So frustrating! It's like they're hell bent on not listening to their customers base and just doing it however they want to. I've never seen another flashlight manufacturer so intent on frustrating their customers. Their flashlights are made so well, they use such good quality LEDs (with nice tint). And you're exactly right... I think they do one of the best jobs with lumen levels. They always space them out so nicely. And they always include something right in that 150 lumen mode which is what I personally use most of the time. Plenty of output and plenty of run time. But their UI drives me crazy. Come on Fenix.... GET WITH THE GAME! 😎👍
Maybe we need to speak louder, or at the right place. Me, and a few guy had a conversation about that hidden USBC, where we stated NOT having a charging port is better than the little flimsy rubber cover, so if they want a charging port, for an outdoor/tac/EDC light, PROTECT IT. when i need the light, i NEED it. And they delivered. (Tbh, it was a Q&A type post, from the admin of the official fb group) join the community, and raise our voice :)
Yeah. 150 lumamans is just tight when you need real light at night but not a tacticool blinding then world light. also the 30 to 50 is nice for just lighting up your path but not washing out your depths perception. and 5 is nice for inconspicuous or unobtrusive light up close.
You forgot they make the TK11TAC which gives you instant access to the highest mode. You negated your own comment merely by saying you don't like memory, yet if instant turbo is a must, then Fenix offers that by memory lol. Olight has some of the worst switches and their proprietary batteries and charging are just the greatest invention ever ✌️ The PD36TAC gives you tactical mode as well and it is 2k lumens. Turbo is 3K.
I believe the UI is such because the on/off is on the tail switch, and body button is for selection. Are there any other flashlights with tail switch and selector button where the selector can be used to turn on the light?
Any idea what can replace my Streamlight Protac 1L-AA? It's solid don't get me wrong but it's time to change n upgrade after 4 yrs+? I like Fenix but i hate the UI.. the TK series is cool but I don't need 1000+ lumens n it's insane.. I did think Acebeam Pokelit 2AA? .. any ideas?
It's quality but if you are going to get an 18350 battery flashlight you can get alot more compact and shorter. If you are going to buy an 18650 battery sized light, then just buy an 18650 light, You will gain more light and longer run times. Stack two 18350 in an 18650 flashlight and witness the extra power. It can blaze. Be careful though and read if your light can handle two 18350s or it will meltdown,,,,,not happened yet though even with cheap hosts....this is how you get max power/ run times per weight ratio.. A compact 18350 example is the Olight Warrior Nano. Really good light
I like if my flashlight turns always on in the mode I choose instead of having to go through all modes every time I turn it on but I agree it's to fiddly to find the mode button just by touch. The mode button should be at the back near the on/off switch as it's the case on the TK20R for example. Thanks for your excelent review. 👍👍
Not an easy way to show it, but also found that unless the appearance differs greatly from the specs..very few ppl actually care about it (and it more than tripples the time spent on the video).
Totally agree regarding the UI. I was completely sold up until that point, instant turbo on the tailswitch is a big one for me. Also the access to stobe is silly I'm definitely hearing you mate - when needed it would generally be in a "hurry/without thinking" situation. That's where I feel Nitecore's i-series lights have hit it bang on the mark! That tail switch, main for instant turbo and a smaller secondary tail switch for instant strobe just nails a UI in my opinion. Especially for what we have to pay over here is Australia you definitely want something that ticks 90% of the boxes not just say 70%-80%... Just my 2 cents! Love the reviews mate!
I love the Olight UI on the Warrior 3 where the tail switch can be either (half press/full press) medium/turbo or turbo/strobe. Then a more “normal UI” on the side switch. I really think Olight nailed the UI with many features without being too confusing.
@@DocDazzler Yes I agree the Warrior has a good UI. I just feel Nitecore's i-series approach having the main tail switch (half press momentary turbo, full press locks turbo on) secondary smaller tail switch (basically the same UI as the main but offering direct access to strobe) is a very unique & great idea on there behalf. Side switch like the Warrior cycles through the modes (Warrior 3s is the only Warrior I own so can't relate to possible other Warrior UI's if that's what your referring to etc...I use the Thrunite Catapult series as my throwers if your meaning that particular Olight Warrior range, so my mistake) Similar but yet having that smaller second tail switch assigned for direct strobe is something in its own league. Just my personal opinion. I definitely agree with the Olight Warrior UI being great, I think Thrunite where tail switches are applied are using very similar interfaces as the Warrior. I'm a Thrunite fan but yet to own any tail switch models so don't quote me on that.
A single click easy access to low, high and strobe is asking too much. You only have 2 buttons. Also, most people prefer the memory capability of a flashlight than no memory at all (go back to low mode).
I like the UI. It matches the LD30. It won't come on in your pocket either. Even better would be a UI to match the PD32 v 2.0. that is the absolute best. Well, except maybe the Quark MKIII, or the Acebeam L17... Or the Eagtac P200C2. I like simple single tail switch lights.
your a little critical of the buttons. if you needed to turn the light on in the dark you don't want to be fumbling around looking for the switch on the side of the light. the button on the bottom is easy to find
Eagtac dx3b mk II. More or less same size , has better UI, but the "moonlight mode" is way too bright. Although this Fenix has better water protection.. these brands should learn from each other strengths
I used a pd35 v2 every day at work. And every morning I have to cover the lens and cycle the side switch until I get to low (which is stupid high at 50lm) so I can find my slippers etc. I never THOUGHT about how annoying this was until now. Thanks a lot Dominic. I think I need to upgrade my work edc to an anduril Sofirn with an 18650 or 21700. I've used pd35s as my work light (and for a long time my only light) for years. I think the pd25r is a little big for a 16340 light. I thought it might be a 14500 from the size. My only other complaint with my pd35 is the cold color temp.
The new Fenix Ld22 V2.0 is an excellent flashlight! It's a 2aa but has 1 big battery that's usb-c rechargeable an can take 2 regular AA. Build quality has been supior for that last year an a half. Great review, I want one an yours was the first video.
Check out the Sofirn SC31T non pro version. You can pick this up in 5000 k and it’s on sale right now. Sofirn site. You can access Moonlight mode by holding the side switch and clicking the tail switch, this will eliminate blowing out your night vision. You can also access turbo by clicking the tail switch and double clicking the side switch. If you want a dual direction pocket clip, the one from eagtac will fit on this light If you wanted a short light, you can purchase the “18 350 short tube” and it will make it the same length as Fenix pd25r. It seems like you can pretty much charge any battery in this light button top or flat top. I forgot to mention that this light does TAILSTAND
@@cobraman502 I second that recommendation to do a comparison between the 2. I've always been a Fenix fan and have several of their lights and my edc light is a Fenix RC05SE. But Maxlvledc has peaked my interest in Sofirn lights for sure, mainly due to the better UI imo.
Wow ! Thank you sir for stating the truth about the Olights ! You’ve been the only you tuber I’ve ever heard mention that Olights can only use their own proprietary batteries. That’s the exact reason why my go to lights for everything are fenix lights.
@@maxlvledc CR123 are 100% safe. Much much safer than any rechargeable battery. I only have fenix lights and use both rechargeable and regular, never a problem.
Nobody needs a tailstand more than they need that wonderful rubber switch, that enables momentary activation. Most of the real world isn't perfectly flat and level and sturdy anyway. Just prop it up against something.
I am looking for a perfect flashlight for years and I realized it doesn't exist. 😀 I want 2700-3000K light (no white or almost blue like it's common, that's not good for night), I want on/off button on side (not on tail) and I want extra slider for selecting modes where I can see in which mode it is and I can change it before I turn it on. That would be my perfect flashlight. Also, modern 21700 cells would be nice. Such flashlight doesn't exist. And what is also very important for me is flickerfree light in low light modes, most of flashlights are flickering when it's not on 100% which I totaly hate, it's making stroboeffect and it's annoying. Yes, I am a flashlight nazi, but when you are in some dangerous situation, most of today flashlights will kill you in the night, not even talking about some tactical usage when you are a security or policeman or something like that. I would love to have a flashlight which is 100% analog with no computer and chips inside, but it seems like it's almost impossible with today LEDs, only for some max 3W LEDs with only on/off. Old flashlights are the best, you feel when it's turned on because of there is mechanical switch which just connects conntacts, it was tactical before producers called it a tactical. On/off and changing modes with one button should be illegal. Most of flashlights on market are totaly useless.
You hit the nail on the head. "UI can make or break. a light"....I couldn't agree more. Which is why till FENIX smartens up and creates at least a UI on par with everyone else e.g. 2-clicks for instant Turbo and 3-clicks for Strobe (those who feel they need Strobe)) I'm not buying another FENIX light...I own their TK16 (best "tractical light" to this day IMHO...I can understand being forced to cycle through the modes...even through Turbo in a high stress situation...you don't want to think...just press the mode button (TK16)....still....would be better in V3 (2023) if they introduced 2-clicks for Turbo. You don't want to blow out her night visin everytime you need to cycle back to ECO or LOW...more so on EDC lights or keychain lights. tiny AA batter using lights....FENIX needs to hire a new UI guy
yes Fenix is very good quality and yes a mix of Olight should make the perfect flashlight!! for me the best mix would be a mix of Fenix PD36R and the Olight baton 3 pro !! 😅😅 interface of olight and 0.5 lumen moon light!! Build quality and 5000 mAh battery of fenix 😁tale switch,usb c rechargeable and that's the dream light!! making in different colors light and even better!! for me cw ! 😵💫😵💫
I actually think the ergos/UI is fantastic. I carry it in my left pocket and grip it with the light end towards my pinky if i squeeze my hand i can cycle through the settings, but i usually leave it on eco or low. been carrying the pd25 and pd25r since 2015
Never had lights "blowout" my vision when I am not looking into the beam...when I am behind the beam...it is of little consequence. But, then, I am not looking for reasons to penalize a light...that Fenix is a fine light that anyone should be able to use without much issue.
I have no problem with the interface.....i would have liked Fenix do do away with the charging port on the actual light.....no need for it... just supply a battery with a charging port....what would happen if you plug in the flashlight with a 123 inside ? Another thing i dont like is the rubber button not allowing the light to tail stand....that is a no brainer... put a smaller button or a metal one. Will wait for Fenix to correct these things....
If you want it just for EDC you could set it back on low before you turn it off. Or as a tactical light keep it on high. But you are right. A kind of Olight UI would be much better.
I've tried several different brands of flashlights. The Fenix works best for me. The proprietary magnetic charging system is a real pain for me on the olight. The quality of the Fenix lights seems to be a step above anything else. The UI is not ideal, it's something I've gotten used to. The Thrunite flashlights are cheap junk
WHAAAAAT. No tail stand on a phoenix? The really messed up on that tail cap because the whole design of the tail cap is for tail standing on their lights. Everything you said about it up to that point was selling me on this light. Then yo covered the UI and I cried. But not really because I hate this size of lights. It's to big to be comfortable pocketed and not big enough to be as good as the next class. I Run the p12 for a long time now and give them away at Christmas every year. The 12 tail stands and is aaa based. Has a ton of run time on low which is all I ever need in a pocket light. I'm still running my OG warrior since like 2014. I like the UI on it better than all the newer direct chargeable lights which makes me sad because I would love to be able to keep the light on a charger in my truck A light that operates identical to the gen one warrior but in a charging cradle, i would buy at least five of those, maybe ten. One in every vehicle and at least two in the house. Very good review as always.
Check 123 Energizer ultimate lithium I use AA on the e12 and only change one in two years aprox. Are great to have in case or something happens like backup are not cheap but a pay without problem
With the side-button strobe, you can easily send an S O S signal to other hikers or helicopters. If you broke a bone and are waiting to be found, it might make the difference in survival. I'm liking the strobe feature.
The ui on fenix pd range is why still refuse to buy 1, the pd35 and 36 are the same, the closed i have found are some of the thrunites, the only bad thing with the trunjtes is you cant enter the normal modes by entering though moonlight mode. But atleast thrunite you can have a turbo tsil switch and a low side switch
I have a few Fenix lights, the quality and reliability is way above brands like o light. I just wish that they would improve their UI a bit. Just finished watching the whole video and you nailed the UI issue.
To avoid having the light come on initially on High, why wouldn't you just always remember to turn off the light in Low mode? Wouldn't seem to very tough to do this.
interface not a nitpick. Being able to access admin light and full power independently is a requirement for edc. what a great light otherwise, thanks for the video
The user interface is perfect, once you learn to outsmart it. You can force the memory to come on in whichever mode you prefer, simply by turning it off in the chosen mode. So if it's on the nightstand, turn it off in lowest mode. When going out at night, turn it off in highest mode. Nobody needs strobe, and it's just annoying when it activates accidently. You can practice and play with it if you think it's going to be your weapon of choice.
You don't have to blow out your vision. You can turn it on with the lens against your leg or anything. Or you can plan ahead to have your light come on at whatever brightness you prefer, simply by turning it off in that brightness, It;s perfect memory never fails.@@maxlvledc
@@maxlvledc You KNEW it was coming on in turbo, because that's how you CHOSE to leave it, but then you FORGOT to cover the lens against your body to shield your eyes because .....?
Awesome flashlight; build quality, output, superb tailswitch, light intensity, etc. One small caveat, if you're holding the light tight enough in your hand you will activate the side switch and go from turbo to 5 lumens in a fraction of a second. I really wish they would have just made the light with just a tailswitch. Just like a streamlight.
Two way pocketclip? Neat! The size? Great! High candela? Awesome! Takes a rechargable AND normal CR123? Perfect! Strobe only accessible via the side switch? Oh god dammit! I live in a country where anything self defense related will get you in trouble or at least strange looks. So my top priority in an EDC flashlight is easy access to the strobe mode. I could live with any downsides you mentioned, but that's the only thing that prevents me from getting this light in an instant.
@@maxlvledc If I want it on a low setting whenever I first turn it on I’ll set it to low and leave it there for whenever I need it. Next time I turn it on it’s on the last setting I left it on.
I agree with you on the user interface. And this is small also, but I really resent the Sudo crenulated bezel. It serves no purpose. I don't need a strobe but I like an SOS mode. Also, it would be great if this flashlight could use AA batteries. I don't like the brass-colored power button also.
I’ve had this light in my pocket for just over a year and it’s never let me down, early mornings at the yard for work, inside basements of newly constructed high rise building or unpacking at night after work or a hunting trip. I love this light, I think I’m fenix for life 🙏🏼
Olights are extremely over rated by the manufacturer and olight fan boys ..
Exactly. They’re Chinese junk just like inforce.
"Facts" Big Time Over-Rated
They're turning into toy makers.😢
I just picked up a pd25r and it’s replacing my surefire edc defender. In my opinion it’s just as nice material and the features are way better at a third the price. And the pd25r being rechargeable is amazing.
Been watching other videos on this light and this is easily one of the best. Majority of the others sound like an infomercial where they're just reading off the specs. I appreciate you going into details not given by the manufacturer and showing the light in action. Thank you!
Most "reviews" are really unboxings or first impressions
I agree with you, tha user interface you mentioned (side switch for low modes and tail switch for turbo/strobe) would be perfect. Also, I'm glad to see Fenix increasing candela and catching up with the competition. It is almost perfect.
I only have one Fenix light. Their complete lack of an actual moonlight on most (all?) of their lights kills it for me.
HM61R has a 1 lumen red mode.
It shouldn’t because they are still fantastic lights.
Ooooooo. Thank you for sharing.
I just retired my original Fenix PD35 and it’s still going strong, the only reason I’ve retired it is because it has too much sentimental value to me for something to happen to it. So it’s nightstand duty from now on. I have surefires and stream lights but my PD35 will always be my favorite duty light
You’ve been sleeping on fenix my boy, pretty much all of the Fenix lights are this nice
Nice yes..with terrible UIs
I'm glad you brought up the importance of candela as a spec. Fenix usually has more compared to most other brands.
I had the original PD25 and it’s by far my favorite light. The size is perfect. Great power and runtime balance. Take the Fenix rechargeable battery or the standard CR123. Love but my son lost my clip and now the actual light too. So I think I’ll be picking this one up.
I loved your review and thankyou for your honest appraisal. I have this same light and for my needs it is perfect. I would like to say that I think that you are a little harsh about its memory of the last use output. I too want it to power on at the 5 lumen setting. From there I can cycle easily to whatever brightness I need. So, I've trained myself to power it down to minimum before switching it off. It's hardly an inconvenience on what is an excellent flashlight (or "torch" as we call them in the UK). Anyway keep up your great reviews........ Subbed🙂
Agree. Just cycle down prior to turning it off. Non issue really.
Great review but can't disagree more about the UI. Having one button for power and one button for brightness is perfect and dead simple--exactly what I want. But I understand people have different preferences--I wish more flashlight manufacturers allowed the user to customize what the buttons do. Especially since a lot of flashlights already have USB C--just let me plug it into a computer and customize things with a simple utility.
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Muy buen video! Muchas gracias.
Hace unos meses que tengo la versión anterior (PD25) y la uso todos los días. Realmente tiene todo lo que busco en una linterna.
Ese "defecto" en el UI es cuestión de costumbre: en mi caso, es cómodo saber que siempre voy a tener la linterna en bajo (que es el que más uso), sin tener que pasar por los otros modos.
Saludos!
I don't mind the UI at all. I like how it turns on at the brightness I left it at. However I use mine at work, always turning it on and off. I would hate it if it either started on the highest setting or the lowest setting and than I had to adjust from one of those two points. I would constantly be fumbling with the mode button.
VERY good review - I fully agree: If it wasn't for the absolutely horrible (and inconsistent) user-interfaces Fenix could be very interesting!
I was wondering why you didn't mention it:
For a simple 16340-light the PD25 is way, WAY too big:
with that 'footprint' in your pocket the light should at least use a 18350 battery!
I’ve had one for about 6 weeks. The only ‘flaw’ is I wish the body button was an on/off button too. Apart from that I love it.
Wasn’t aware it works with Cr123s so cheers for mentioning that 👍🏻
ou should read the instructions
@@dohpredator Hmm ok… I’m guessing I’ve missed something
I like the few Fenix lights that i have. But i do agree that having access to the low and high modes easily is important. I keep the Olight Baton 3 by my bed, and use it if i get up in the night or am up early. Just hold press to get to the moonlight mode.
I'm not familiar with this Fenix model but does appear to be a very nice light. Thanks for another great review!
nice br i had all fenix lights, except head light i had only one for work, .. O light i had one.. 🤷🏽.. Fenix i don't know but i love to collect all of them.. 👍
jamais un seul beamshot dans tes vidéos 😤 tu ne sort jamais de là avec tes lampes ?? C'est vraiment dommage ..'
My Olight Warrior Mini2 is my EDC as well and I also love Olights interface with the tailcap lights. I ultimately want a WM2 that can take CR123's as needed. My older Olight's could along with different brands of 18650's but none of the new ones allow that anymore.
I think Olight has abandoned XX-123 format.😢
I can't remember if I commented on this video before. I think I own every version of the single CR123 P series Fenix lights (and a bunch of the 2CR123/18650 PD30 series), from the original P1 in the late 2000s, P1D, P2D, PD20, etc etc. I've been EDCing the PD22 UE at home and PD25 when out, and finally got the PD25R last year. Unfortunately while I do like things like the charging port and output, I don't like the tint, I prefer the more floody light pattern of the previous lights, and I'm not a fan of the pocket clip placement. I'd prefer if they'd kept a deep pocket clip on it. As it stands, the PD25R just sits on my computer table as a backup and I'll continue using the PD22UE and PD25 til something better comes along.
PD35, TK16, TK16v2, TK25 R&B - Best quality tail switch I have seen.
Fenix probably has the best switches of any other brand out there
can't deny it, but i will say the WM3 has much better switch than past generations.
Agree 100% that Fenix Rules@@MemphisMojo15s
My problem is the side buttons on those flashlights. I have an early model tactical light that is over 15 years old. It has three modes accessed by how you click the one rear button. One click is always high mode, two rapid clicks is low mode, and 3 clicks is strobe mode. All the people I know who have bought lights with side buttons have had them fail catastrophically and unexpectedly in 4 to 5 years.
I agree with you about the strobe. That to me is the one function an EDC has to have that’s idiot proof. Fantastic review.
Much too long/big for a single CR123/16340 cell light
Great review I wish Fenix would make more lights with magnetic tail caps.
I really enjoyed your review! You are spot on regarding the user interface. Due to being in LE, I, for tactical reasons want that max output from the tail cap only. And I'd leave the side switch on the 5 lumen mode so I can see menus in restaurants LOL! Basically, it needs the OL interface. I've been on the fence for so long for this light but I may just pass it up again. OL is coming out with the WM3 today and it seems to be even better than the WM2 although I'm thinking Feniix would still win on the build quality between the two. Keep up the great work!
I have this light if you push the back button and hold it it will go to strob
Before you turn off the flashlight put it on the level you want it to be when you turn it on the next time.
I don't understand the problem with the UI , I actually really like it . I just cycle back the light at the lumen level I use the most before turning it off , this way it's at that level whenever I turn it back on .
If you need to access the high output without cycling through the modes they make the tactical lineup for that .
Fenix make brilliant quality flashlights for a competitive price , of course there's always room for improvement but overall they're one of the best imo .
But...there are UIs that allow you to do both seamlessly..so why not have something better?
@@maxlvledc After thinking about it , you've got a point mate . They could make use of the side button to give an instant turbo mode access , that would make the flashlight even better .
Probably wouldn't cost that much more to make the change either .
A higher candela value is not automatically better. It depends entirely on what you want to do with the flashlight. Indoors I find a higher candela value even disadvantageous. And even if you want to illuminate the path in front of you, the candela value should not be too high. It's a bit like asking which is better, an off-road vehicle or a sports car. :)
100% true
I stopped using OLIGHT because it is not compatible with primary lithium batteries and most of there light naked plastic optic lens prone to scratch no AR coated glass like Fenix
Great honest review!
I too was a little disappointed with my Olight Warrior Mini 3. The Actuator is not as "Precision" as my Fenix
@@michael_caz_nyc Why are you disappointed with the WM3 ?
I pre-ordered this light from Fenix and as soon as I got this light it immediately became my everyday carry. It’s perfect.
I feel the exact same way about Fenix UI. So frustrating! It's like they're hell bent on not listening to their customers base and just doing it however they want to. I've never seen another flashlight manufacturer so intent on frustrating their customers. Their flashlights are made so well, they use such good quality LEDs (with nice tint). And you're exactly right... I think they do one of the best jobs with lumen levels. They always space them out so nicely. And they always include something right in that 150 lumen mode which is what I personally use most of the time. Plenty of output and plenty of run time. But their UI drives me crazy.
Come on Fenix.... GET WITH THE GAME! 😎👍
Maybe we need to speak louder, or at the right place. Me, and a few guy had a conversation about that hidden USBC, where we stated NOT having a charging port is better than the little flimsy rubber cover, so if they want a charging port, for an outdoor/tac/EDC light, PROTECT IT. when i need the light, i NEED it. And they delivered. (Tbh, it was a Q&A type post, from the admin of the official fb group) join the community, and raise our voice :)
Yeah. 150 lumamans is just tight when you need real light at night but not a tacticool blinding then world light. also the 30 to 50 is nice for just lighting up your path but not washing out your depths perception. and 5 is nice for inconspicuous or unobtrusive light up close.
I prefer Fenix UI for many uses.
You don't have to lock out the light every time.
hate the fact that fenix flashlights can only turn on with the tail switch.
The UI of Fenix lights is why I don't own them. I need instant access to high and low. I don't need a memory.
You forgot they make the TK11TAC which gives you instant access to the highest mode. You negated your own comment merely by saying you don't like memory, yet if instant turbo is a must, then Fenix offers that by memory lol. Olight has some of the worst switches and their proprietary batteries and charging are just the greatest invention ever ✌️
The PD36TAC gives you tactical mode as well and it is 2k lumens. Turbo is 3K.
I believe the UI is such because the on/off is on the tail switch, and body button is for selection. Are there any other flashlights with tail switch and selector button where the selector can be used to turn on the light?
Yes. For example olight warrior series.
Although I prefer fenix over olight, for many reasons, in the UI olight wins for sure.
Any idea what can replace my Streamlight Protac 1L-AA? It's solid don't get me wrong but it's time to change n upgrade after 4 yrs+? I like Fenix but i hate the UI.. the TK series is cool but I don't need 1000+ lumens n it's insane.. I did think Acebeam Pokelit 2AA? .. any ideas?
It's quality but if you are going to get an 18350 battery flashlight you can get alot more compact and shorter. If you are going to buy an 18650 battery sized light, then just buy an 18650 light, You will gain more light and longer run times. Stack two 18350 in an 18650 flashlight and witness the extra power. It can blaze. Be careful though and read if your light can handle two 18350s or it will meltdown,,,,,not happened yet though even with cheap hosts....this is how you get max power/ run times per weight ratio.. A compact 18350 example is the Olight Warrior Nano. Really good light
It's like the UI is made for preparing it in advance for the situation you expect. This one is frustratingly close to greatness.
I like if my flashlight turns always on in the mode I choose instead of having to go through all modes every time I turn it on but I agree it's to fiddly to find the mode button just by touch. The mode button should be at the back near the on/off switch as it's the case on the TK20R for example.
Thanks for your excelent review. 👍👍
A flashlight review that doesn't show the light in action. Seems like a big miss.
Not an easy way to show it, but also found that unless the appearance differs greatly from the specs..very few ppl actually care about it (and it more than tripples the time spent on the video).
Totally agree regarding the UI. I was completely sold up until that point, instant turbo on the tailswitch is a big one for me. Also the access to stobe is silly I'm definitely hearing you mate - when needed it would generally be in a "hurry/without thinking" situation.
That's where I feel Nitecore's i-series lights have hit it bang on the mark! That tail switch, main for instant turbo and a smaller secondary tail switch for instant strobe just nails a UI in my opinion. Especially for what we have to pay over here is Australia you definitely want something that ticks 90% of the boxes not just say 70%-80%...
Just my 2 cents!
Love the reviews mate!
I love the Olight UI on the Warrior 3 where the tail switch can be either (half press/full press) medium/turbo or turbo/strobe. Then a more “normal UI” on the side switch. I really think Olight nailed the UI with many features without being too confusing.
@@DocDazzler Yes I agree the Warrior has a good UI. I just feel Nitecore's i-series approach having the main tail switch (half press momentary turbo, full press locks turbo on) secondary smaller tail switch (basically the same UI as the main but offering direct access to strobe) is a very unique & great idea on there behalf.
Side switch like the Warrior cycles through the modes (Warrior 3s is the only Warrior I own so can't relate to possible other Warrior UI's if that's what your referring to etc...I use the Thrunite Catapult series as my throwers if your meaning that particular Olight Warrior range, so my mistake) Similar but yet having that smaller second tail switch assigned for direct strobe is something in its own league. Just my personal opinion. I definitely agree with the Olight Warrior UI being great, I think Thrunite where tail switches are applied are using very similar interfaces as the Warrior. I'm a Thrunite fan but yet to own any tail switch models so don't quote me on that.
Fenix doesn't really offer any great UIs, but they're simple at least
I wonder if anyone likes the user interface?
A lot it seems...
Or how about the klarus xt1A or xt1c 2018 version. It is an old flash light but has adouble tail switch that can instant access to hi and low.
A single click easy access to low, high and strobe is asking too much. You only have 2 buttons. Also, most people prefer the memory capability of a flashlight than no memory at all (go back to low mode).
I like the UI. It matches the LD30. It won't come on in your pocket either. Even better would be a UI to match the PD32 v 2.0. that is the absolute best. Well, except maybe the Quark MKIII, or the Acebeam L17... Or the Eagtac P200C2. I like simple single tail switch lights.
Fenix doesn't really offer any great UIs, but they're simple at least. They need a light wuth anduril 2.0.
your a little critical of the buttons. if you needed to turn the light on in the dark you don't want to be fumbling around looking for the switch on the side of the light. the button on the bottom is easy to find
Same for me, fenix make nice lights, but not for me anymore. I loved the p1d.
Bang on! It's an amazing torch but it gives some really important things. Fit and feel is second to none. WM 2 is a better torch.
Is it not worrying, that when you’ve so many flash lights, you still can’t even find the perfect one? 😂 Nice reviews mate!
Eagtac dx3b mk II. More or less same size , has better UI, but the "moonlight mode" is way too bright. Although this Fenix has better water protection.. these brands should learn from each other strengths
I couldn't agree more
I used a pd35 v2 every day at work. And every morning I have to cover the lens and cycle the side switch until I get to low (which is stupid high at 50lm) so I can find my slippers etc. I never THOUGHT about how annoying this was until now. Thanks a lot Dominic.
I think I need to upgrade my work edc to an anduril Sofirn with an 18650 or 21700. I've used pd35s as my work light (and for a long time my only light) for years.
I think the pd25r is a little big for a 16340 light. I thought it might be a 14500 from the size.
My only other complaint with my pd35 is the cold color temp.
The SC31T has a fixed UI that works perfectly, and the SC32 is obscenely good as well. Reviews for both coming soon.
The new Fenix Ld22 V2.0 is an excellent flashlight! It's a 2aa but has 1 big battery that's usb-c rechargeable an can take 2 regular AA. Build quality has been supior for that last year an a half. Great review, I want one an yours was the first video.
Don't like proprietary batteries.....if it ran on two 14500 then it would be great..
Check out the Sofirn SC31T non pro version. You can pick this up in 5000 k and it’s on sale right now. Sofirn site.
You can access Moonlight mode by holding the side switch and clicking the tail switch, this will eliminate blowing out your night vision. You can also access turbo by clicking the tail switch and double clicking the side switch.
If you want a dual direction pocket clip, the one from eagtac will fit on this light
If you wanted a short light, you can purchase the “18 350 short tube” and it will make it the same length as Fenix pd25r. It seems like you can pretty much charge any battery in this light button top or flat top.
I forgot to mention that this light does TAILSTAND
I actually just got it from them 2 days ago, it's incredible for the money
@@maxlvledc you must do a review and compare with Fenix pd25r.
@@cobraman502 I second that recommendation to do a comparison between the 2. I've always been a Fenix fan and have several of their lights and my edc light is a Fenix RC05SE. But Maxlvledc has peaked my interest in Sofirn lights for sure, mainly due to the better UI imo.
Great review. Thanks for posting.
Any chance yoive also used the HM50R Version 2.0 headlamp? If so, curious how you'd compare it to this PD25R.
Wow ! Thank you sir for stating the truth about the Olights ! You’ve been the only you tuber I’ve ever heard mention that Olights can only use their own proprietary batteries. That’s the exact reason why my go to lights for everything are fenix lights.
Cr123 are super volatile, so just be careful with them
@@maxlvledc CR123 are 100% safe. Much much safer than any rechargeable battery. I only have fenix lights and use both rechargeable and regular, never a problem.
Nobody needs a tailstand more than they need that wonderful rubber switch, that enables momentary activation.
Most of the real world isn't perfectly flat and level and sturdy anyway. Just prop it up against something.
Yeah I just lay them flat.
I am looking for a perfect flashlight for years and I realized it doesn't exist. 😀 I want 2700-3000K light (no white or almost blue like it's common, that's not good for night), I want on/off button on side (not on tail) and I want extra slider for selecting modes where I can see in which mode it is and I can change it before I turn it on. That would be my perfect flashlight. Also, modern 21700 cells would be nice. Such flashlight doesn't exist. And what is also very important for me is flickerfree light in low light modes, most of flashlights are flickering when it's not on 100% which I totaly hate, it's making stroboeffect and it's annoying.
Yes, I am a flashlight nazi, but when you are in some dangerous situation, most of today flashlights will kill you in the night, not even talking about some tactical usage when you are a security or policeman or something like that. I would love to have a flashlight which is 100% analog with no computer and chips inside, but it seems like it's almost impossible with today LEDs, only for some max 3W LEDs with only on/off. Old flashlights are the best, you feel when it's turned on because of there is mechanical switch which just connects conntacts, it was tactical before producers called it a tactical.
On/off and changing modes with one button should be illegal.
Most of flashlights on market are totaly useless.
Fenix has higher candela than most,important for the death beam.
You hit the nail on the head. "UI can make or break. a light"....I couldn't agree more. Which is why till FENIX smartens up and creates at least a UI on par with everyone else e.g. 2-clicks for instant Turbo and 3-clicks for Strobe (those who feel they need Strobe)) I'm not buying another FENIX light...I own their TK16 (best "tractical light" to this day IMHO...I can understand being forced to cycle through the modes...even through Turbo in a high stress situation...you don't want to think...just press the mode button (TK16)....still....would be better in V3 (2023) if they introduced 2-clicks for Turbo. You don't want to blow out her night visin everytime you need to cycle back to ECO or LOW...more so on EDC lights or keychain lights. tiny AA batter using lights....FENIX needs to hire a new UI guy
yes Fenix is very good quality and yes a mix of Olight should make the perfect flashlight!! for me the best mix would be a mix of Fenix PD36R and the Olight baton 3 pro !! 😅😅 interface of olight and 0.5 lumen moon light!! Build quality and 5000 mAh battery of fenix 😁tale switch,usb c rechargeable and that's the dream light!! making in different colors light and even better!! for me cw ! 😵💫😵💫
I actually think the ergos/UI is fantastic. I carry it in my left pocket and grip it with the light end towards my pinky if i squeeze my hand i can cycle through the settings, but i usually leave it on eco or low. been carrying the pd25 and pd25r since 2015
What would be the Coast equivalent?
I prefer warrior nano !
Thanks for your video ❤
Never had lights "blowout" my vision when I am not looking into the beam...when I am behind the beam...it is of little consequence. But, then, I am not looking for reasons to penalize a light...that Fenix is a fine light that anyone should be able to use without much issue.
I have no problem with the interface.....i would have liked Fenix do do away with the charging port on the actual light.....no need for it... just supply a battery with a charging port....what would happen if you plug in the flashlight with a 123 inside ? Another thing i dont like is the rubber button not allowing the light to tail stand....that is a no brainer... put a smaller button or a metal one. Will wait for Fenix to correct these things....
The story was going great....but then.....the user interface. It ruined the whole story for me.
If you want it just for EDC you could set it back on low before you turn it off. Or as a tactical light keep it on high. But you are right. A kind of Olight UI would be much better.
I've tried several different brands of flashlights. The Fenix works best for me. The proprietary magnetic charging system is a real pain for me on the olight. The quality of the Fenix lights seems to be a step above anything else. The UI is not ideal, it's something I've gotten used to. The Thrunite flashlights are cheap junk
Have you looked at the Fenix PD32? It is $15.00 cheaper and can run either 18650 or CR123 batteries.
WHAAAAAT. No tail stand on a phoenix? The really messed up on that tail cap because the whole design of the tail cap is for tail standing on their lights. Everything you said about it up to that point was selling me on this light. Then yo covered the UI and I cried. But not really because I hate this size of lights. It's to big to be comfortable pocketed and not big enough to be as good as the next class. I Run the p12 for a long time now and give them away at Christmas every year. The 12 tail stands and is aaa based. Has a ton of run time on low which is all I ever need in a pocket light. I'm still running my OG warrior since like 2014. I like the UI on it better than all the newer direct chargeable lights which makes me sad because I would love to be able to keep the light on a charger in my truck A light that operates identical to the gen one warrior but in a charging cradle, i would buy at least five of those, maybe ten. One in every vehicle and at least two in the house. Very good review as always.
Check 123 Energizer ultimate lithium I use AA on the e12 and only change one in two years aprox. Are great to have in case or something happens like backup are not cheap but a pay without problem
With the side-button strobe, you can easily send an S O S signal to other hikers or helicopters. If you broke a bone and are waiting to be found, it might make the difference in survival. I'm liking the strobe feature.
most flashlight company underestimate 18350 light. more light like this or sf backup should be made
The ui on fenix pd range is why still refuse to buy 1, the pd35 and 36 are the same, the closed i have found are some of the thrunites, the only bad thing with the trunjtes is you cant enter the normal modes by entering though moonlight mode. But atleast thrunite you can have a turbo tsil switch and a low side switch
It seems to me that the light is greenish, isn't it?
I took off the pocket clip because I didn't like how it felt in my hands. Like how it fits my phone charger and kindle.
Very nice. Is it still the best Fenix version or are there similar or better models?
I'm looking at a PD35R
9:30 - I agree, the UI was a deal breaker for me, you have 2 buttons, separate their function. Tail switch should always be high/turbo
I have a few Fenix lights, the quality and reliability is way above brands like o light. I just wish that they would improve their UI a bit. Just finished watching the whole video and you nailed the UI issue.
Excellent video as always! I have the exact same taste in UI, and Fenix is frustrating because I love everything else about them.
To avoid having the light come on initially on High, why wouldn't you just always remember to turn off the light in Low mode? Wouldn't seem to very tough to do this.
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Every flashing you "review" is the "best" one...
best with a ? its clickbait, but it works. After you watch you can clearly see its not the best.
interface not a nitpick. Being able to access admin light and full power independently is a requirement for edc. what a great light otherwise, thanks for the video
Nice green yellow tint gross...I'll keep my olight better UI
Tail switch on Fenix is ( by far ) the most accurate in a tactical or emergency situation. Fenix Rules.
I feel like your speaking voice sounds like Tom Cruise…
Lols, not really, but it could be worse
I think the ui is nonissue
The thing with the operation is that it lends itself to big hands. I can operate it with my pinky touching the button and cycling through.
The user interface is perfect, once you learn to outsmart it. You can force the memory to come on in whichever mode you prefer, simply by turning it off in the chosen mode. So if it's on the nightstand, turn it off in lowest mode. When going out at night, turn it off in highest mode. Nobody needs strobe, and it's just annoying when it activates accidently. You can practice and play with it if you think it's going to be your weapon of choice.
how is it perfect? If I am in pitch black..I know its coming in on turbo...I will blow out my vision first..This is mediocre at best in modern UIs
You don't have to blow out your vision. You can turn it on with the lens against your leg or anything. Or you can plan ahead to have your light come on at whatever brightness you prefer, simply by turning it off in that brightness, It;s perfect memory never fails.@@maxlvledc
@@maxlvledc You KNEW it was coming on in turbo, because that's how you CHOSE to leave it, but then you FORGOT to cover the lens against your body to shield your eyes because .....?
I recently got one. Love it, and i like the UI. Set it to the brightness you want it to come back on before you shut it off.
Awesome flashlight; build quality, output, superb tailswitch, light intensity, etc. One small caveat, if you're holding the light tight enough in your hand you will activate the side switch and go from turbo to 5 lumens in a fraction of a second. I really wish they would have just made the light with just a tailswitch. Just like a streamlight.
Two way pocketclip? Neat!
The size? Great!
High candela? Awesome!
Takes a rechargable AND normal CR123? Perfect!
Strobe only accessible via the side switch? Oh god dammit!
I live in a country where anything self defense related will get you in trouble or at least strange looks. So my top priority in an EDC flashlight is easy access to the strobe mode. I could live with any downsides you mentioned, but that's the only thing that prevents me from getting this light in an instant.
UI kills WAAAY too many flashlights lol.
A small secondary Button on the Back would be a sensible Strobe location!
Like the charging port design. Any other fenix lights with the same style?
On the one I got the flashlight stays on the last setting you leave it on. You switch to the setting you want and just leave it there. 🤷🏻♂️
And...if your in need of a low brightness setting...you would be OK ruining your night vision in order to select it?
@@maxlvledc If I want it on a low setting whenever I first turn it on I’ll set it to low and leave it there for whenever I need it. Next time I turn it on it’s on the last setting I left it on.
Got a Reylight LAN, raw machined titanium. For me it checks all boxes.
I agree with you on the user interface. And this is small also, but I really resent the Sudo crenulated bezel. It serves no purpose.
I don't need a strobe but I like an SOS mode.
Also, it would be great if this flashlight could use AA batteries.
I don't like the brass-colored power button also.
I thought I'm OCD...CDO
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