@@mikekrause8263 yes, because of low res sm57😉! in the room there will be so MUCH more differences in tone! Do not forget low sound quality of UA-cam as well.
Tony Rodd I have a 1978 JMP 2204 and was thinking about switching to a JCM 800. But lately I'm really digging that Orange Rockerverb 50 and if I ever buy one, it's going to be a Mk I.
+Bart Laan me too, that little soldano sounds terrific! Actually preferred it over the VH-4, I did not expect that! The VH-4 is indeed veeery compressed and quite low-middy.
@@orangerecords_studio not truth unfortunately , the cabs and mics and pres and convertors are what change the tone most, amplifiers just vary slighty in harmonic distortion, not the big percentage in sound that the brain hears or feels, some amps will sizzle or fizz more with diff cabs but v30s are sharp for a reason clarity in the mix, a tone is the sum of all its parts, just 35 years exp recording in great studios taught me this :)
Almost 3 years later and this video is still one of the best comparisons out there! Great vid man and holy fuck you make it hard to pick a fave. You have them all dialed in so similar but awesome sounding. A few subtle differences in each but I’m surprised I liked the Orange and the Friedman nodded Marshall JMP the most. Thanks again 🍻
They all so close that if playing live I really don't think you could tell the difference because the other instruments would cover up the little subtleties.. I had a friend with more money than sense who would show up at a club with a different amp and guitar every week. he always sounded the same to me.
imo hearing them in a live mix would actually emphasize the differences that are hard to hear in this vid. The marshalls, for example, will cut thru the mix more clearly than a 5150. The rest are all legit amps but i still think these old marshalls cut thru the best + generally sound the best.
@@bradhargis2261 indeed. At low volume yes..all the nuances appear but if you put the volume knob at 5 and overdrive at 10 on eachone of them..its hard to tell after a while.
Thank you for not maxing out the gain like so many other you tubers. It lets you here the tonal characteristics much more clearly with the gain backed off.
im a bit biased since i have 3 JCM800's that i run thru but that modded JMP sounded killer 2 me. all the more modern amps sounded a bit 2 dark. as if there was a blanket over the cab. i luv how the old marshalls hit u in the nads!! plus u can get all yr cleanish tones and yr high gain tones all in the 1 channel. good video m8 well done
So glad I've kept my 800 after all these years and sometimes I will pop a set of THD Yellowjackets in it when I want to dime it Secret weapon if you like el84s
The Mesa and soldano where the cleanest and the best “high gain tone” I have the triple rectifier running through with a Decimator G-string & horizons device precision drive pedal and the tone is INSANE
This is a great demo, and as you said they sound very similar, that's true. V30s are an amazing weapon because their signature sound works so well in a modern rock/metal context, but trying different amp/cab combinations to bring out the subtle differences between them is a great process too. Many prefere a safer road by using combinations which are well known, but doing things differently can bring amazing results
Great comparison! I didn't realize that Atomics came in a cabinet like that until I just saw yours... for 22 years I thought that the cab my Astoverb effects loop prototype came in was a one-off, but it isn't! My cab is purple too, but the front is Fender-style chrome grille cloth type stuff (and the grille cloth is melted in the curved corners, so I guess they tried to heat it to make it stick or something?). It was displayed at the 1999 NAMM show. I bought it from Mike Soldano in 2002 for $500 after calling him to ask if it was possible to add an effects loop to an astroverb (even though I was flat broke) and he said, "Actually, I think I have the prototype on the back shelf, hold on, I'll go look... yes, I have it. It's been sitting for over a year since it came back from a guy in Germany who was going to become a dealer, but then didn't. It's covered in dust. I just need to put a US transformer in it. How does $500 sound?" He let me make payments. His factory was on my way home from work, just across the Ballard Bridge from my bank, so it worked out great. He is an absolutely SUPER awesome guy. I like that it makes a nice smooth, non gritty lead tone even at whisper volumes with the gain at 9 (or maxed). What is your favorite speaker with it? I currently have a (2002) V30 paired with a WGS Retro 30. I have not yet gotten around to popping in a Greenback to try (which is Mike Soldano's favorite speaker with his amps). You probably already know that the Atomic/Astro circuit is based on the SLO's clean channel with the crunch switch on. Now you know for sure. ;) This comparison made me stop thinking that I'd like to get a Mesa someday too. Thanks!
the first amp sounded the best but you managed to set them all to sound pretty much the same... i found each amp has its own sweet spot which makes it unique..
I learned from this video that you're good at micing up a cab and dialing amps, because they all sound great. It's between the Mesa, the 2203 and 2004 for me. The Orange is great too
Hard to say they all sound great. But if I had to pick I'm partial to the JCM 800 because I also have one. I was told when I bought it in 1992 that it was an 1987 model but about a year ago I took the back off & there was a tag inside with the inspectors initials & a date from 1981 which is the first year they made the 800. Cool !! And your original music sounds great Bro !! Love to hear more. I guess at your band website .
Soldano for the win! Diezel a close second had a bit more bite in the mix than the orange! But both awesome. Wasnt impressed with the Mesa this time round which shocks me as i normally love them. Marshalls were all well balanced especially in the mix!
Winner. All of the above. On a more serious note. No one in the audience will be blown away by any one of them more than they would by the other. Without the side by side comparison the audience will love any of them. So I’ll go with the lowest cost amp.
They all sound good with a 1x12 vintage 30. A JMP or 800 generally need a 412 to sound best, at say 5 to 7 on the master/attenuator to open up the actual roar of a tube amp sound. A lot of cool toys in this video I like it!!!
For my taste, the winner: Mesa for the unique growl. Second for JCM and it's raw punch. Surprisingly third for Orange. Fourth for Peavey (I would push it more)... Soldano was a bit boxy for me. Diezel too dry/cold. JMPs not suited to the style.. Great test Cameron!! Thanks!
I know this is late in the game, but for those who commented that the different amps all sound the same, try listening to it through studio headphones or monitors. The differences are there despite the use of the same guitar cab and mic setup.
@@johnnybrown9581 Those OLD 2 channel Dual Rectifiers sound absolutely killer, which says a lot considering I am NOT a fan of rectifiers generally. At least I don't like the modern era ones. But the old ones with the black tread plate and chrome control panel? Those are killer amps and HIGHLY sought after.
I think overall I like the Diezel the best. The Rockerverb sounds awesome in it's own way, I can see why those are so popular for Stoner Metal. The first Marshall and the JCM 800 had a certain mojo about them, I was surprised they sounded so high gain they could really hang with the others. The 6505 had a certain definition thing going. And the Soldano was interesting in some way I can't quite put my finger on. A lot of options you have there!
There is no better amp than the 2204. Marshall found the magic with that amp, even better than the 2203 which is basically the same circuit with 2 more output tubes. Stellar.
1. Diezel, it just fits the style so well. 2. Marshall 2203 3. Marshall 2204 The Orange and Mesa lacked definition. The 5150 sounded like it needed to be pushed harder. I think the Mesa was my least favorite.
1. Friedman JMP 2. 2203 c TS9 3. 2204 c TS9 4. Soldano (but a SLO100 preferably). Diezel may be most similar to this, but it seemed a little too muddy here at times, to me ... 5. Mesa (which has the most distinct sound - kind of woofie/swarm of bees). If this is the sound you want, then it would trump everything ... but I just prefer the modded Marshall/Soldano tone and clarity/tightness (YMMV).
Honestly, pick one. The cab makes just as big a difference. For the amp, a well-dialed EQ can get just about any of these tones with any of these amps.
I'll give you a couple lists. Ones I liked, meh, and nope. :) My pick: Mesa Ones I liked: Marshall JMP: 2204 (especially for the ringing notes), Marshall JCM 800: 2203, indifferent: Soldano, Diezel, Marshall JMP HBE Nope: Orange (not enough gain for me?), Pevey (kind of dark and muffled)
they all sound good and the eq were set similar for the most part.but notice the soldano had the bass dimed just to get where the others had their bass set before noon. crazy
Good demo/They all sound really good I love The Rockerverb/5150 .I own both but would Love to see an ENGL in there because pound for pound The Fireball Devours everything.That AMP put's a wicked smile on my Melted Face...
My first pick would be the Diezel everything after this seemed to be a compromise in clarity and balance. It didn't have the punchy lows but the bass was dialed back. #2 Friedman Modded Marshal. #3 Marshall JMP 2204. Playing a different guitar with different pickups would mix up the list. The 5150 was the only Amp that was a total turn off for me, No definition in the notes and muddy sounding.
I liked that Friedman modded Marshall best. The purple JMP 2204 was also killer, and I was surprised how good the Orange sounded. The JCM 800 2203 sounded a bit mushy in the highs. Those amps can sound tighter and clearer than that; I think maybe the preamp might have been set too high. Every amp in the comparison sounded great, though. Thanks for the demo.
WOW they all sounded Encredible Anyone of them would work fine in a hi gain situation But have to give it up to Dave Friedman for the consistency of his fantastic amps and modds Modern day Gain Guru
thank you for doing a high gain shootout with some melody. I can never find a demos where it's not death metal. It helps to hear these amps over music I would play and not just jenting. not even sure if that's how it's spelled. anyways, thanks.
I think they are all nice... The pick attack (chugging) is important here.. How the amp tracks and if it adds character / is fast tracking / removes color / adds color to the tone... Metal is chugging. FACT!... ANyways.. the Marshall jcm 800 tracks fast and adds enough bass to thicken that part. That's my fave .. the jcm 800's with the screamer is my jam...... The Orange was surprisingly awesome though.. It may be the winner! Mos of the other amps migh have more gain but they aren't adding thickness / fatness / and color..
Diezel - 0:54 Orange - 1:40 Mesa Boogie - 2:26 Marshall JMP Fiedman Mod - 3:12 Peavey 5150 - 3:58Marshall JMP 2204 - 4:44 Soldano - 5:30 Marshall JCM800 - 6:16
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These literally all sound almost identical
@@mikekrause8263 yes, because of low res sm57😉! in the room there will be so MUCH more differences in tone! Do not forget low sound quality of UA-cam as well.
@Uly Malmsteen too fizzy and most mid scooped of them all!
Hard to beat an old school Marshall paired with a Tube Screamer. That purple JMP 2204 sounds awesome!
Tony Rodd I have a 1978 JMP 2204 and was thinking about switching to a JCM 800. But lately I'm really digging that Orange Rockerverb 50 and if I ever buy one, it's going to be a Mk I.
Tony Rodd Exactly!!!
Marshall
Tony Rodd nice but nothing sounds as sweet as the 13 dollar android im blasting
Tony Rodd Yep there’s no doubt that that one sounds the best! Simply amazing.
What honestly surprised me the most is how similar they sound through the same cab. Still, I think I liked the Soldano the most
+Bart Laan me too, that little soldano sounds terrific! Actually preferred it over the VH-4, I did not expect that!
The VH-4 is indeed veeery compressed and quite low-middy.
The V30’s seem to color everything and made all the amps sound tonally similar, even with different gain characteristics.
Same here, Soldano had the perfect definition w/o being to harsh or boxy.
its a fake video. NO WAY that a Orange amp sounds just the same as the other ones
@@orangerecords_studio not truth unfortunately , the cabs and mics and pres and convertors are what change the tone most, amplifiers just vary slighty in harmonic distortion, not the big percentage in sound that the brain hears or feels, some amps will sizzle or fizz more with diff cabs but v30s are sharp for a reason clarity in the mix, a tone is the sum of all its parts, just 35 years exp recording in great studios taught me this :)
I think Marshalls inherently have this very clear and bright hi-midrange that I really dig. The Friedman modded JMP was crazy good.
Loved that MESA tone! The 800 was a close second for me, albeit very different sounding.
Diezel are something special. Only amp where mids and bass as u turn up it adds harmonic content without mudd.
Also make sure to run the presence hot. (70-100%)
They are the best . The only amp that compares is Wizard MTL2. Those are my two go to brands
Still the Purple JMP has a special something going on in the Midrange treble end!! Pure Unbelievable Tone!!
"Man that Mesa knows how to Boogie" - Carlos Santana
I think my fav is the Purple Marshall though.
Almost 3 years later and this video is still one of the best comparisons out there! Great vid man and holy fuck you make it hard to pick a fave. You have them all dialed in so similar but awesome sounding. A few subtle differences in each but I’m surprised I liked the Orange and the Friedman nodded Marshall JMP the most. Thanks again 🍻
Man that JCM800 boosted with the TS is music to my ears, pun intended. Such a well rounded high gain tone!
The JMP 2204 wins in my opinion. what a Massive amp with nothing but a tube screamer you can play anywhere and have the best tone ever!!!
Yep, I agree
There's something about them, an intangible. More organic. Punch, definition, tone - it's all there.
When you get a good 2204, it's the best amp EVER MADE. :)
Big daddy Ramrod either a tube screamer, or a RAT2 for thicker grind.
Totally agree
They all so close that if playing live I really don't think you could tell the difference because the other instruments would cover up the little subtleties.. I had a friend with more money than sense who would show up at a club with a different amp and guitar every week. he always sounded the same to me.
imo hearing them in a live mix would actually emphasize the differences that are hard to hear in this vid. The marshalls, for example, will cut thru the mix more clearly than a 5150. The rest are all legit amps but i still think these old marshalls cut thru the best + generally sound the best.
nah. You wouldn't hear much in a live mix. Its too loud for your ears to differentiate.
@@bradhargis2261 indeed. At low volume yes..all the nuances appear but if you put the volume knob at 5 and overdrive at 10 on eachone of them..its hard to tell after a while.
Thank you for not maxing out the gain like so many other you tubers. It lets you here the tonal characteristics much more clearly with the gain backed off.
Man! They ALL sounded awesome and that's not normally my choice of genre... I could listen to more of that though! Well done!
Wow, thanks so much for saying so!
Thats really the deal, they are all awsome amps,
im a bit biased since i have 3 JCM800's that i run thru but that modded JMP sounded killer 2 me. all the more modern amps sounded a bit 2 dark. as if there was a blanket over the cab. i luv how the old marshalls hit u in the nads!! plus u can get all yr cleanish tones and yr high gain tones all in the 1 channel. good video m8 well done
This is epic man! Thanks much! Purple Marshall has the most "swagger" for my taste. Mesa is badass too (cant believe I'm saying it tho)
Thank you for watching!
Love that riff, really well written
Thanks for doing this. Great job! They all sound good, but particularly digging the 800.
Absolutely! I'm also partial to the Marshall. :)
So glad I've kept my 800 after all these years and sometimes I will pop a set of THD Yellowjackets in it when I want to dime it Secret weapon if you like el84s
I just came to listen to the phrasing which is real chuggy sweet. Well done!
Thanks man! I appreciate the compliment!
Boosted old marshall sounds fantastic! Love it
The Mesa and soldano where the cleanest and the best “high gain tone” I have the triple rectifier running through with a Decimator G-string & horizons device precision drive pedal and the tone is INSANE
This is a great demo, and as you said they sound very similar, that's true.
V30s are an amazing weapon because their signature sound works so well in a modern rock/metal context, but trying different amp/cab combinations to bring out the subtle differences between them is a great process too. Many prefere a safer road by using combinations which are well known, but doing things differently can bring amazing results
My top three favorites were the Marshall 2203, 2204 and the mesa, nice playing as well
Great comparison! I didn't realize that Atomics came in a cabinet like that until I just saw yours... for 22 years I thought that the cab my Astoverb effects loop prototype came in was a one-off, but it isn't! My cab is purple too, but the front is Fender-style chrome grille cloth type stuff (and the grille cloth is melted in the curved corners, so I guess they tried to heat it to make it stick or something?).
It was displayed at the 1999 NAMM show. I bought it from Mike Soldano in 2002 for $500 after calling him to ask if it was possible to add an effects loop to an astroverb (even though I was flat broke) and he said, "Actually, I think I have the prototype on the back shelf, hold on, I'll go look... yes, I have it. It's been sitting for over a year since it came back from a guy in Germany who was going to become a dealer, but then didn't. It's covered in dust. I just need to put a US transformer in it. How does $500 sound?"
He let me make payments. His factory was on my way home from work, just across the Ballard Bridge from my bank, so it worked out great. He is an absolutely SUPER awesome guy.
I like that it makes a nice smooth, non gritty lead tone even at whisper volumes with the gain at 9 (or maxed).
What is your favorite speaker with it? I currently have a (2002) V30 paired with a WGS Retro 30. I have not yet gotten around to popping in a Greenback to try (which is Mike Soldano's favorite speaker with his amps).
You probably already know that the Atomic/Astro circuit is based on the SLO's clean channel with the crunch switch on. Now you know for sure. ;)
This comparison made me stop thinking that I'd like to get a Mesa someday too. Thanks!
Thank you! And wow, that's an incredible story. I love hearing stuff like that. Mike seems like a great guy.
Boosted Soldano took the gold for me, in this mix. The boosted Marshalls were close behind. Lot of great tones!
I repair this stuff all day ..6 days aweek. . I think a lot on here need to listen with a blindfold on. And then see what you like.
You mean the 80% of people saying they all sounded basically the same?
Recto's do something unique to the upper mids and top end. Especially when you play the full open chord during the solo guitars
That riff is just awsome!
The tube screamer should have been used in front of all of them. The soldano was the hands down winner.
the first amp sounded the best but you managed to set them all to sound pretty much the same... i found each amp has its own sweet spot which makes it unique..
I learned from this video that you're good at micing up a cab and dialing amps, because they all sound great. It's between the Mesa, the 2203 and 2004 for me. The Orange is great too
Hard to say they all sound great. But if I had to pick I'm partial to the JCM 800 because I also have one. I was told when I bought it in 1992 that it was an 1987 model but about a year ago I took the back off & there was a tag inside with the inspectors initials & a date from 1981 which is the first year they made the 800. Cool !! And your original music sounds great Bro !! Love to hear more. I guess at your band website .
Pleasant surprise for sure 👍
Loved them all, too hard to choose. Great selection of amps!
The purple! Magnificent!
Soldano for the win! Diezel a close second had a bit more bite in the mix than the orange! But both awesome. Wasnt impressed with the Mesa this time round which shocks me as i normally love them. Marshalls were all well balanced especially in the mix!
Clear blue sky. Cool riff... I could live with any of these heads. I liked the mesa
Winner. All of the above. On a more serious note. No one in the audience will be blown away by any one of them more than they would by the other. Without the side by side comparison the audience will love any of them. So I’ll go with the lowest cost amp.
Good logic. :) They are all good enough, so whichever one you prefer is the winner.
It sounded like the Peavey needed pushed a bit harder.
weezerman2002 Thought the same thing. Ive played through 5150s and they will melt your face!!
Yes they do
I agree...or eq'd better....that was the only amp I didn't like in this video and I like 5150's
One of each, please!
The Diezel and the 2203 does it for me! Can't go wrong with a Marshall!
They all sound good with a 1x12 vintage 30. A JMP or 800 generally need a 412 to sound best, at say 5 to 7 on the master/attenuator to open up the actual roar of a tube amp sound. A lot of cool toys in this video I like it!!!
Sound all good and close to each other
The purple JMP and the JCM800 sound killer. The Soldano is also deliciously rich-sounding.
I really like the jam...and great diversity in the amps and different voicings, but the actual jam is solid.
Thanks man+
they all sounded great!
Am I being punked? They all sound pretty damn similar.
Just my opinion it isn’t legit
Anyone who has owned a Mesa Orange and Marshall, myself included knows this isn’t legit tone similarities in those amps
@audiosamples Jazz guys don't understand some things... 😁
@* haha 😂
amp doesn't matter that much it's the speaker
Awesome video. You managed to make them all sound great! Great variety of tone and complexity. Quite a stable of tools you have :).
All sounded Great, but the Diezel has my heart
The Mesa & the JCM800 are the best to me thought I usually love the sound of a Peavey 5150
If I had to pick from this demo, the MESA
For my taste, the winner: Mesa for the unique growl. Second for JCM and it's raw punch. Surprisingly third for Orange. Fourth for Peavey (I would push it more)... Soldano was a bit boxy for me. Diezel too dry/cold. JMPs not suited to the style.. Great test Cameron!! Thanks!
Marshall JMP Fiedman Mod but the Mesa Boogie was a close second! Great sounds!
You did a great job in this comparison, thx for the hard work!
I know this is late in the game, but for those who commented that the different amps all sound the same, try listening to it through studio headphones or monitors. The differences are there despite the use of the same guitar cab and mic setup.
I see you have a lot of dust on that Mesa amp. Send it to me and I promise to keep it dust free.
Bit of dust on the 5150 as well. 🤔
My personal top 3 : 1. The purple 2204 - 2. The Mesa DR - 3. The Diesel - but they all sounded good...
MESA sounded so alive to me.
X TaKeRu X i do agree with you sir
Who would’ve thought the Mesa would sound best with a Mesa cab....
@@johnnybrown9581 Those OLD 2 channel Dual Rectifiers sound absolutely killer, which says a lot considering I am NOT a fan of rectifiers generally. At least I don't like the modern era ones. But the old ones with the black tread plate and chrome control panel? Those are killer amps and HIGHLY sought after.
They all sounded the same to it kicked it brutal
Well, they are all great! Kudos to your recording skills.
0:26 diezel
1:12 orange
1:58 mesa
2:44 marshall fried
3:30 peavey 5150
4:16 marshall jmp
5:02 soldano
5:48 jcm800
they all sound good enough to work with! i couldn't choose
I think overall I like the Diezel the best. The Rockerverb sounds awesome in it's own way, I can see why those are so popular for Stoner Metal. The first Marshall and the JCM 800 had a certain mojo about them, I was surprised they sounded so high gain they could really hang with the others. The 6505 had a certain definition thing going. And the Soldano was interesting in some way I can't quite put my finger on. A lot of options you have there!
Saw this video 6 months ago and i just read my comment that said they were all pretty equal but hearing it again that purple Marshall 👍
Bunch of great amps!
The Marshall JCM 800,Friedman modded Marshall, and the orange all sounded great
Nice video stuff !!! And my favorite is the Mesa Boogie, lot of space and very precise, that what I search for my guitar sound.
I keep replaying this cuz of that riff. Wow.
Those stock Marshalls and the Soldano are killing it.
The rest are pretty similar.
The Soldano sounds amazing. My 2nd choice would be the Dual Rectifier.
Boogie and Diezel..allot of color in tone. most of the others were fuzz or enhanced by pedal.
I found all very similar, but indeed Diezel and Boogie where the ones who felt more livish to me
Damn, 2204! My future amp...must start saving.
There is no better amp than the 2204. Marshall found the magic with that amp, even better than the 2203 which is basically the same circuit with 2 more output tubes. Stellar.
Great shootout. They all sound good to me. I'll mail you a swiffer duster for that Mesa.
1. Diezel, it just fits the style so well.
2. Marshall 2203
3. Marshall 2204
The Orange and Mesa lacked definition. The 5150 sounded like it needed to be pushed harder.
I think the Mesa was my least favorite.
2204 all the way, killer sounding amp!
Mesa for me. Diezel and JCM800 are a close 2nd and 3rd choice, though.
Honey, I shrunk the 2204.
Looks nice!
Ok I listened to this blind 3 times and made my decision on the second and verified it on the third...my pick is the JCM800
Diezel impressed me the most.
1. Friedman JMP
2. 2203 c TS9
3. 2204 c TS9
4. Soldano (but a SLO100 preferably). Diezel may be most similar to this, but it seemed a little too muddy here at times, to me ...
5. Mesa (which has the most distinct sound - kind of woofie/swarm of bees). If this is the sound you want, then it would trump everything ... but I just prefer the modded Marshall/Soldano tone and clarity/tightness (YMMV).
Honestly, pick one. The cab makes just as big a difference. For the amp, a well-dialed EQ can get just about any of these tones with any of these amps.
I'll give you a couple lists. Ones I liked, meh, and nope. :)
My pick: Mesa
Ones I liked: Marshall JMP: 2204 (especially for the ringing notes), Marshall JCM 800: 2203,
indifferent: Soldano, Diezel, Marshall JMP HBE
Nope: Orange (not enough gain for me?), Pevey (kind of dark and muffled)
What bridge pickup is that. Sounds great.
They all sound great to me!
I'd still prefer a Randall RG100es over any of those, if I could find one!!!
I like em all! Toss up between the Soldano & JMP
Good and helpful Comparison!
They all differ a bit in sound to me the Diezel is stepping up the game the most. I Also dig suhr amps
they all sound good and the eq were set similar for the most part.but notice the soldano had the bass dimed just to get where the others had their bass set before noon. crazy
Great demo, great tone as well :)
Good demo/They all sound really good I love The Rockerverb/5150 .I own both but would Love to see an ENGL in there because pound for pound The Fireball Devours everything.That AMP put's a wicked smile on my Melted Face...
Nice comparison vid. I am leaning Dual Rec here, though I usually like the 5150\6505 series.
My first pick would be the Diezel everything after this seemed to be a compromise in clarity and balance. It didn't have the punchy lows but the bass was dialed back. #2 Friedman Modded Marshal. #3 Marshall JMP 2204. Playing a different guitar with different pickups would mix up the list. The 5150 was the only Amp that was a total turn off for me, No definition in the notes and muddy sounding.
I liked that Friedman modded Marshall best. The purple JMP 2204 was also killer, and I was surprised how good the Orange sounded. The JCM 800 2203 sounded a bit mushy in the highs. Those amps can sound tighter and clearer than that; I think maybe the preamp might have been set too high. Every amp in the comparison sounded great, though. Thanks for the demo.
WOW they all sounded Encredible Anyone of them would work fine in a hi gain situation But have to give it up to Dave Friedman for the consistency of his fantastic amps and modds Modern day Gain Guru
This confirms my theory that any high gain amp going through Vintage 30s will sound good. lol. Subtle differences between all.
The purple Marshall. Definitely.
Flavors i’d like to blend: the Soldano combined with the orange and maybe the jmp 2203
i liked most the two marshall and the orange, but with the same cab they all sound very similar
thank you for doing a high gain shootout with some melody. I can never find a demos where it's not death metal. It helps to hear these amps over music I would play and not just jenting. not even sure if that's how it's spelled. anyways, thanks.
100% agree
I think they are all nice... The pick attack (chugging) is important here.. How the amp tracks and if it adds character / is fast tracking / removes color / adds color to the tone... Metal is chugging. FACT!... ANyways.. the Marshall jcm 800 tracks fast and adds enough bass to thicken that part. That's my fave .. the jcm 800's with the screamer is my jam...... The Orange was surprisingly awesome though.. It may be the winner! Mos of the other amps migh have more gain but they aren't adding thickness / fatness / and color..
I liked all of them except the 5150.