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@@bighairboi4205 F and D are the only bad tiers you need, and on top of that it makes C tier a cop-out because you can put something there to be completely in the middle, whereas without E tier the middle is either B or C so you at least have to have some sort of take.
Idk, EVERY dragon boss from souls can't be rly called masterfully done just coz of camera issues. Well, except Kalamith, maybe, bcz he s small comparably.
@@martinfranchini7488 if you fight his legs instead of the boss, you might get some. If you fight him head on like it's intended, there are no camera issues
Seath, the Scaleless Betrayer of the Ancient Dragons Stole the Primordial Crystal Co-Founder of the Age of Fire Awarded the Title of Duke Gifted a fragment of Gwyn's Soul Grandfather of Sorcery Created numerous exotic creatures Performed monstrous experiments Fathered several Half-Dragons Fell into Madness Canonically kills the Chosen Undead at least once. His actions can be felt all the way through DS1 to the end of DS3. Ranked "B" in lore. 🤔
@@gipsyking5683 Pre-nerfed Seath was a bit more dangerous, as his Curse build-up was brought down after numerous complaints. There used to be recommendations for players to wear the Paladin or Firekeeper Sets, just for their high Curse resistance.
@MinecraftLapsedd Yeah DS2's OST is pretty solid all around even in base game. I like that it kept the trend of Fromsoft never neglecting OSTs for even weak/early game bosses... until ER that is lol
Tbh, I like Adula. She was a challenging and decent boss fight for the end of a quest. It was also really cool to see a dragon pull a Sif and take out a fucking moon blade
Me personally after playing through sekiro, I would have put divine dragon right behind midir. I just love the design, the ost and just overall the sheer beauty of the fight.
@@izajn007 The fight doesn't last quite long enough to be tedious. Besides, Demon of Hatred exists and people actually put other Sekiro bosses as the worst in that game? He barely even supports the mechanics.
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Midir is definitely the best dragon. Fromsoft seemingly perfected the design. I was really surprised when I played Elden Ring and realized that Midir's design didn't carry over. It was back to hacking their feet from underneath them.
Kalameet was EPIC when that DLC came out. The boss tail weapon was awesome and the fight was hard. And he plays into the Giant blacksmiths lord and environmentally has effects on the land. S for suuurreee
Kalameet is so underappreciated dude. I honestly think his moveset is better than most of the Elden Ring field bosses. I would put him at number 2 next to Midir and above Placidusax personally, Placidusax is more of a spectacle fight but the moveset isn’t nearly as fun imo. He stood head and shoulders above every boss in Dark Souls base game, and I felt that’s when From really started coming into their own with boss design. He still holds up to this day as a great boss, especially considering it’s a DS1 boss makes it even more impressive. and yeah cutting the tail is super difficult and made it such an intense and memorable battle for me
Honestly after playing Elden Ring and getting to Midir, I honestly think Midir is super bland compared to Placidusax, his moveset is very samey and the only difficulty comes from his extremely overbloated health-pool, making it somewhat of a slog unfortunately, like just because it's hard doesn't mean it's good
@@botondkunos1774I was so dissapointed by that fight. Literally found myself fighting him with a blank face, no emotion, no excitement. He just missed me with like half of his attacks even when I didn’t dodge. Sure he looks cool and has cool special effects but mechanically just not good at all. Soundtrack worse than midir, mechanically worse than midir, easier than midir he’s just bad tbh. You’re just a weird young new gen Melvin who cares about visuals way too much. I feel sorry for you
@@Diablopray Can't agree more. Anyone ranking Fortissax or Placidusax highly must value aesthetics way more than gameplay. They are really cool, but suck to fight.
Placidusax must be S+ he is winning by lore, power, visual, presentation, special moves, maybe just less melee combat moves. Midir just has phenomenal soundtrack, poor but sad lore, more melee combat moves and u can't see sht on his design. Placidusax wins all.
ancient dragon was pain in the ass for no reason because you had no reason to kill it since it's not actually a boss rather an npc that turns into one when you aggro it.
@@منأسرةٍذاتِمفخر Let’s see. First off, there’s the fire breath. To dodge it, you either run away, or run to the tail. You barely even have time to react to it most of the time, so you’re almost forced to sit at the tail. It’s not like there’s any significant moves that occur when you’re at the tail, only the tail swipe. Thus, you miss out on the half of his moveset that is interactive due to the fire breath, and just sit back at the tail doing nothing. The nuke is cool, but you just run away. The lightning claws are cool, but you can’t consistently punish them due to AOE after-explosions. Therefore you just wait there instead of trying to attack. The lasers are also very cool, but poorly designed. Dodging them is cool and all, but then you factor in the fact that you get nothing for trying to dodge them. There’s no punish window like there is with midir; you can take the risk of dodging them for no reward, or just run away as they’re not targeted at you like midir’s are. The way you actually punish it is by baiting him to fly down to the edge of the arena, and sitting behind him for the lasers. The whole fight is either you running away, or you sitting behind him and punishing for 10 seconds just to dodge a single time or run away more. The fight has literally everything going for it, other than the most important part which is gameplay. Imo, the gameplay is almost as bad as gargoyle duo tbh, but definitely much less obnoxious.
@@منأسرةٍذاتِمفخر What are you on about? You can run away from midir all you want, but there’s no point to it. With placidusax, running is the way you dodge things/avoid most things. With midir, rolling is the way you avoid most things. The difference is that with midir you have a choice. Running directly at placidusax will get you hit so many times, but running at midir is the way you’re supposed to fight him. If that’s not a clear indicator of which has better gameplay, idk what to say.
This seems about how I'd rank it, I felt like the Ancient Dragon fight was at least a low C, but it's about right. I think I'd put Placidusax above Midir personally
Lol placidusax is so boring and bad mechanically. Sure he has a few cool attacks and visuals but he just kinda misses you most of the time even when you’re not dodging. I was so let down and bored fighting him. Easier than midir, worse soundtrack, way worse mechanically, worse lore. Only good part was the visuals you new age bastard
@@Diablopray ost - depends on taste, am not fan of midir ost, it is just good. Worse lore - definetly not, while Midir has good lore, Placi has so much more to him. Easier - midir isn't even that hard, he is tedious to fight. Even fighting his head you deal little damage. fight takes forever and is really repetetive - you dont even think on his attacks, dodge on reflexes and hit after every attack
@@andreamicheli2575 well, idk, for me it was definition of Midir. Like, i like him overall, but mechanically - Gael, demon prince, hell - even Halflight were more fun for me
I agree that the boss fight of Dragon God itself is bad, though I think the Dragon God itself is cool. I think it's not as bad as Bed of Chaos though, because not only is the trek to the boss not long at all, but the only hard part is the two ballista things. After that it's just hitting him until he dies really. With Bed of Chaos, getting to her is a pain and while hitting her two spots is easy, falling down to her third spot without falling and dying is a pain.
Sorry but watching Gough shoot Kalameet out of the sky for me personally is one of the coolest thing in the entire series, maybe the actual fight isnt as good as some later ones like Midir , but the whole set up before you fight him in the dlc definitely elevates it to the best dragon for me
I'm curious to know if Oceiros is missing in this list or if it was intentionally not included since it is still transitioning into being a dragon. Furthermore, personally I consider Ebrietas to be a Dragonlike creature which I would have loved to see ranked in this tier list, even if only considered as an honorable mention or something.
@@darrylunlistedbard9527 I never said he isn't cool. Just that there isn't much to the fight mechanically, and the constant flying/teleporting can get annoying.
No you’re just a new age Melvin that sees shiny things and thinks it’s cool. The mechanics of the fight are terrible he just has cool visuals and some cool attacks. Terrible flow to the fight, he just misses you most of the time or does nothing. Easy boring and honestly pathetic boss fight.
@@Al-ji4gdyeah it’s terrible mechanically just a bunch of new kids playing Elden ring that like shiny things. “Hey it looks cool it’s the best” ahahaha these kids, like Elden ring have no soul.
Elden ring dragons r really mid; Placidusax is cool and all but he has some annoying attacks, fortisax is overrated, rest of dragons r copy and paste. Play ds3 and fight midir, best dragon
Placidusax is the best dragon in soul game Yes he is not hard unlike midir i get it but his skillset are visually stunning and the fight are fun Not to mention he hv the coolest design
Great vid. Going further with Midir, I think it’s the best fight they have ever made, period. It’s such a literal Dance with a Dragon, I love it. But the arena is kinda bland and whatever. So Midir is the best fight, but my fav dragon is Lich Dragon Fortissax
in regards to Ancient Dragon, when DS2 originally came out his fly up then down breath attack covered like 90% of the arena. im not kidding. so when you went for the feet, his AI would tell him to fly up and do the breath attack most of the time so you would have time to get in 1 or 2 hits before you had to run well before his animation started. plus his breath attack did more damage, last longer and i THINK hit more often during the duration. when people say he was a hard boss this was the version they talk about because so many people never played the patched version of the fight
Gaping Dragon is A for sure !!!! The tail cut weapon , the alternate fighting landscape depending if you kill the channelers. The awesome mechanics. A for suuuurreeeee
I have no nostalgia factor since I played the game not very long ago for the first time, and kalameet is my favorite. A is completely fair if this is about mechanics, tho I still enjoy them like crazy, but if you are keeping in mind stuff like looks(design itself, his fire, the calamity eye thing) and setup(with all the gough mini quest and cutscene), which are superior to midir imo, I think its one of the most hype things in the whole franchise.
I dont know if anyone else knows but i like ekzyke because its fun to bait him in killing the night cavalty thats near him (the one that holds poison moth flight) so i say upper C would be cool but he is fine where he is
In defense of Acient Dragon, considering that it is acient, it would be slow. However, since it is so ancient, he has build up size/strength. A lot of other dragons are small and quick. However, AD is a lot more of a tank and shows what happens when you try to take on a huge beast of a dragon. It's like the difference between getting hit by a branch of a tree and getting a whole sequoia tree slammed down on you.
Midir is literally the only dragon that fights you... he's not just the best fromsoft dragon but best dragon fight out of any game I've played in over 20 years.
100%. He’s a pissed off dragon that brings the fight to you and is great mechanically. Plasidusax barely does anything and misses you half the time he attempts something. Just has cool visuals that’s it
If it wasn’t for the toxic and corrosive scales sinh would be my favorite since it’s a dragon that uses its wings and attacks from the sky like I’d imagine a dragon would
bro, Greyoll is neat, you fight the surrounding dragons to defeat him normally. it's like draining his essence from the others, and he debuffs you, it's not just a free soul unless you choose to do that.
Sinh is so underated, the boss was so hard my first playthrough because I didn't invest in any ranged attacks. Midir is still the true Dragon God of the series. All the Eldenring bosses were the easiest in the franchise, but every dragon fight (excluding the rune farm dragon boss) as well as Rykard (not a dragon i know) were the most enjoyable fights I had, mainly because they for the most part actually posed a challenge and some actually managed to kill me multiple times.
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U forgot Oceiros from DS3, if ur including wyrms u gotta pay credit. One of the most unique and interesting bosses the souls series has offered, obviously slept on
I like Midir a lot better than Placidusax. The sheer size of the boss, the methodical and fair moveset that will one shot you at SL1, the absolute spectacle of his special moves like the beam and explosion, and the reward being my favorite weapon in the entire series all combine to make him #1 for me. Kalameet is fun as well, but he’s a little too easy aside from getting the tail cut. When you’re fresh off killing Manus, he’s just not that intimidating 😂
Placisusax is my favorite! Pity that he got a low health bar. Just imagine fighting him in his prime! 5 headed dragon lord! Ohhh and my boy Fortisax! Damn the ost is sooo epic during the boss fight! And also a pity abt his health bar too!
I like Placi more than Midir, and actually i don't understand why people like Midir that much, imo he's technically pretty easy boss, lorewise he's cool, but nothing that impressive about him. And giving Kalameet such high place on the list is a crime. The most buggy and laggy dragon fight with no logic at all, i'd give him low D rank, gaping dragon is way better than him.
I'd put Divine Dragon in S and lower Placidusax to A. And I'd bump Ancient Wyvern up to C maybe even low B. Same treatment for Guardian Dragon too. Other than that I agree with the list.
Why? He literally does fuck all in phase 1, and phase 2 is mostly him teleporting and flying around. I don't love any of the dragon fights, but Midir is a far better fight than Placidusax, mechanically and it's not even close.
@@Al-ji4gd Well, for me the Midir fight was too tedious, and felt too long. Last time I played with a str build, and still dealt so little DMG to him. Placidusax not just looks better visually, but the fight itself feels more entertaining. Everytime I do a NG+ looking forward to fight Placi, but Midir? Not so much. And I really love difficult/challenging bosses.
Comparing these two is a bit unfair, Placidusax plays nothing like a dragon boss. But if we compare them based on how successfully they perform their assigned roles, then Placidusax is the one with the better execution. Placidusax is simply put the perfect spectacle fight without an assigned gimmick. Midir on the other hand is Dark Souls 3's attempt at modernising a classic style dragon boss and it's almost great, but he's too big for the camera to keep track of him in some situations wether your camera is locked on or not, he also has a number of attacks that are just time wasters without the same level of spectacle Placidusax has.
Sihn personally is way more interesting and engaging to fight then Midir. Midir is overated for his visuals, and mechanically - either you fight his body and suck, or fight his head - 90% of fight dodge-attack repeat. Tedious. Even if overall he is still really good boss, and it is really satisfying when fight "clicks" for you, it is not fight i look forward repeating
Pretty good their list, would have swapped placiducex with midir personally but other that nothing really. (Difference with the magma worms is one of the includes their phase 2 while the other is exclusively phase one)
@@Diablopray I disagree, while I agree the spectacle is the main selling point I still think he is better fight than midir. Midir moves his head around so much and u can’t lock on to his legs, I feel like I’m fighting a faramazula dragon with a good ost
@@jackmckeen6183 you’re not supposed to fight his legs you imbecile. You hit his head. That’s why it’s a good fight mechanically. Unlike the other dragons where you’re swinging at legs and wings, where they just miss you with attacks. You fight midir head on and actually have to dodge well. I feel sorry for you
@@jackmckeen6183 "you can't lock on to midir's legs" Dude midir was not designed to be attacked From the legs heck the fight straight up punishs you if try to attack the legs
I remember the first time I played DS1 and was fighting the gaping dragon and my controller died half way through the fight, but the boss was so easy that I still killed it after having to change the batteries in my controller. 🤣
Red dragon from demons souls put straight fear into me. Whenever I would run to t Ross the bridge I’d get super scared and get chills cuz it’s super loud and the remote rumbles
Don't do Greyoll dirty like that. Yea you can cheese her really easy for free runes, but the actual fight is kinda neat. For those who haven't fought her the proper way the fight is basically her calling her children to defend her because she can't fight and if you beat all 3 dragons she summons she dies(or you can hide under her wing where they cant get to and bleed cheese her) It's a cool concept because she is in lore the mother of all dragons except the ancients ones in the game.
Just get rid of the health bar on Ancient Wyvern and it's fixed. Also, having just killed Fortissax at RL1, I'd say Kalameet was a better fight melee, but they're pretty close. I also tend to be annoyed when people just rank Demon's Souls at the lowest spot for something, but in this case it's entirely justified. The game has a cut ballista that let you shoot things; imagine if after you got past the red and blue dragon once you could use the ballista to take them out. Would've bumped them up to B or C tier.
I too agree that Gaping Dragon is the most-underrated boss in DS1, because I think no other boss more perfectly exemplifies what the game is all about- huge, nightmarishly hideous, intimidating, easily capable of squashing you flat practically without trying if you're careless or reckless or clumsy or just charge in mashing the attack button like a moron, but if you slow down and take your time, think, and as the saying goes, _git gud,_ you can make this ancient abomination into your cringing scaly bitch with ease. _That's Dark Souls._ Given that people have been seen completing soul level 1 runs of the game using Guitar Hero controllers, can you really say that the Gaping Dragon is "too easy" for a game like Dark Souls? No. It's basically perfect.
Fortissax was a good boss ruined by multiple things. You cant lock on to his legs and his head is too high up, if they made him more like midir where your supposed to hit his head (You know..... making a dragon fight actually interesting for once?) than he would be great. Lower his head, 1.7x the hp, make it so you can lock on to his legs individually and his head and BOOM he is an S tier fight.
Fortissax is mid. All the dragon fights are overrated. Worst kind of boss in the series. Always cool visually and in terms of design. Mechanically, though, they almost universally suck.
i wish they would just copy paste midir into elden ring best dragon fight imo and if I could fight him but he has lightning attack or poison or frost it would be awesome
King of the Storm is probably D for me, I kinda hate it, I actually prefer the Guardian Dragon over it. And I'd have every single Elden Ring dragon on C or higher, because while they aren't original, the base template they use is by itself considerably better than the likes of King of the Storm or Guardian Dragon. I think people complain too much about recycled designs and ignore how good said designs are. Many Elden Ring bosses that everyone hates are actually pretty good bosses, but they are treated as if they're horrible because you fight them multiple times, this includes Ulcerated Tree Spirits, Burial Tree Watchdogs, Tibia Mariner and most of all the dragons (Godskins too, but I think they're hated more because of the Duo than becuase there are many). At least people give credit to Crucible Knights and Tree Sentinels, because those bosses are TOO good to be ignored even with repetition. Also, smaller note but I actually like him more than Kalameet.
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Good take on removing E tier it sucks.
@@m.douglas8492 yeah it's an F teir teir
@@bighairboi4205 F and D are the only bad tiers you need, and on top of that it makes C tier a cop-out because you can put something there to be completely in the middle, whereas without E tier the middle is either B or C so you at least have to have some sort of take.
Midir will forever be one of my favorite bosses in the series. His design, the fight, etc. It’s a masterfully executed dragon boss.
Idk, EVERY dragon boss from souls can't be rly called masterfully done just coz of camera issues. Well, except Kalamith, maybe, bcz he s small comparably.
@@RaiseYourFlag Midir does not have camera issues, lmao?
Please. I love midir, But He has camera issues
@@martinfranchini7488 He doesn't lmao
@@martinfranchini7488 if you fight his legs instead of the boss, you might get some. If you fight him head on like it's intended, there are no camera issues
Seath, the Scaleless
Betrayer of the Ancient Dragons
Stole the Primordial Crystal
Co-Founder of the Age of Fire
Awarded the Title of Duke
Gifted a fragment of Gwyn's Soul
Grandfather of Sorcery
Created numerous exotic creatures
Performed monstrous experiments
Fathered several Half-Dragons
Fell into Madness
Canonically kills the Chosen Undead at least once.
His actions can be felt all the way through DS1 to the end of DS3.
Ranked "B" in lore. 🤔
this was a fight ranking, not a lore ranking you doofus
s+ in lore, but the fight exept esteticly is just him shooting lasers that mostly miss if you stay up close
@@gipsyking5683
Pre-nerfed Seath was a bit more dangerous, as his Curse build-up was brought down after numerous complaints.
There used to be recommendations for players to wear the Paladin or Firekeeper Sets, just for their high Curse resistance.
lore wise S but gameplay wise a D for me. a trend thats coming back a lot in DS1
Placidusax is the coolest boss fight visually ever.
agreed. especially that second phase
fortissax?
@MinecraftLapsedd DS2's boss roster is really carried hard by its DLC. But its best points definitely surpass DS1 imo (just not DS3.)
@MinecraftLapsedd Yeah DS2's OST is pretty solid all around even in base game. I like that it kept the trend of Fromsoft never neglecting OSTs for even weak/early game bosses... until ER that is lol
yup
Tbh, I like Adula. She was a challenging and decent boss fight for the end of a quest. It was also really cool to see a dragon pull a Sif and take out a fucking moon blade
Fantastic! gameplay footage was the only thing these videos were missing
Me personally after playing through sekiro, I would have put divine dragon right behind midir. I just love the design, the ost and just overall the sheer beauty of the fight.
Its a slog to go through in subsequent playthroughs i never fight him in reflections
@@antx_soulsborne_meat_rider it ends really quickly
imo worst fight in sekiro extremely tedious and carried by how cinematic it is
In terms of an actual fight it’s actually pretty lame
@@izajn007 The fight doesn't last quite long enough to be tedious. Besides, Demon of Hatred exists and people actually put other Sekiro bosses as the worst in that game? He barely even supports the mechanics.
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Midir is definitely the best dragon. Fromsoft seemingly perfected the design. I was really surprised when I played Elden Ring and realized that Midir's design didn't carry over. It was back to hacking their feet from underneath them.
A dragon who's head at the ground for the entire fight so you can hit it is the opposite of perfected design
@@Syllights imo its a better solution than whacking at a dragons ankles
@@JoreoUA-cam You can get heavy jump attacks on the head but not too often, only as counters. Seems reasonable to me.
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Kalameet was EPIC when that DLC came out. The boss tail weapon was awesome and the fight was hard. And he plays into the Giant blacksmiths lord and environmentally has effects on the land. S for suuurreee
Kalameet is so underappreciated dude. I honestly think his moveset is better than most of the Elden Ring field bosses. I would put him at number 2 next to Midir and above Placidusax personally, Placidusax is more of a spectacle fight but the moveset isn’t nearly as fun imo. He stood head and shoulders above every boss in Dark Souls base game, and I felt that’s when From really started coming into their own with boss design. He still holds up to this day as a great boss, especially considering it’s a DS1 boss makes it even more impressive. and yeah cutting the tail is super difficult and made it such an intense and memorable battle for me
completely agree
Honestly after playing Elden Ring and getting to Midir, I honestly think Midir is super bland compared to Placidusax, his moveset is very samey and the only difficulty comes from his extremely overbloated health-pool, making it somewhat of a slog unfortunately, like just because it's hard doesn't mean it's good
Elden Ring's dragons are actually pretty fun if you fight them the same way you fight midir
They are a bit of a downgrade, they are so robotic. Except Placidusax, he's the best, better than Midir.
Except there is a big difference. Midir's head is at ground level after every combo, while elden ring dragons are allergic to the ground.
@@botondkunos1774I was so dissapointed by that fight. Literally found myself fighting him with a blank face, no emotion, no excitement. He just missed me with like half of his attacks even when I didn’t dodge. Sure he looks cool and has cool special effects but mechanically just not good at all. Soundtrack worse than midir, mechanically worse than midir, easier than midir he’s just bad tbh. You’re just a weird young new gen Melvin who cares about visuals way too much. I feel sorry for you
What does this even mean. You can’t really fight their heads the same way midirs is done. The dragons in Elden ring suck
@@Diablopray Can't agree more. Anyone ranking Fortissax or Placidusax highly must value aesthetics way more than gameplay. They are really cool, but suck to fight.
Placidusax must be S+ he is winning by lore, power, visual, presentation, special moves, maybe just less melee combat moves. Midir just has phenomenal soundtrack, poor but sad lore, more melee combat moves and u can't see sht on his design. Placidusax wins all.
ancient dragon was pain in the ass for no reason because you had no reason to kill it since it's not actually a boss rather an npc that turns into one when you aggro it.
glad my boy placi gets the respect he deserves. such a great fight, arena, ost, and his second phase is so cool.
Placidusax is by far one of the coolest dragons, but also has one of the worst gameplay of the dragon fights.
@@alexknott7111 explain how it’s worst
@@منأسرةٍذاتِمفخر Let’s see.
First off, there’s the fire breath. To dodge it, you either run away, or run to the tail. You barely even have time to react to it most of the time, so you’re almost forced to sit at the tail. It’s not like there’s any significant moves that occur when you’re at the tail, only the tail swipe. Thus, you miss out on the half of his moveset that is interactive due to the fire breath, and just sit back at the tail doing nothing.
The nuke is cool, but you just run away.
The lightning claws are cool, but you can’t consistently punish them due to AOE after-explosions. Therefore you just wait there instead of trying to attack.
The lasers are also very cool, but poorly designed. Dodging them is cool and all, but then you factor in the fact that you get nothing for trying to dodge them. There’s no punish window like there is with midir; you can take the risk of dodging them for no reward, or just run away as they’re not targeted at you like midir’s are. The way you actually punish it is by baiting him to fly down to the edge of the arena, and sitting behind him for the lasers.
The whole fight is either you running away, or you sitting behind him and punishing for 10 seconds just to dodge a single time or run away more.
The fight has literally everything going for it, other than the most important part which is gameplay. Imo, the gameplay is almost as bad as gargoyle duo tbh, but definitely much less obnoxious.
@@alexknott7111 are you on drugs ? I can say just like you about midir lol , I can keep running away with midir too
@@منأسرةٍذاتِمفخر What are you on about?
You can run away from midir all you want, but there’s no point to it.
With placidusax, running is the way you dodge things/avoid most things.
With midir, rolling is the way you avoid most things. The difference is that with midir you have a choice.
Running directly at placidusax will get you hit so many times, but running at midir is the way you’re supposed to fight him.
If that’s not a clear indicator of which has better gameplay, idk what to say.
Bayle S+
Ghostflame dragon C
You did kalameet dirty
Above placidusax fr
This seems about how I'd rank it, I felt like the Ancient Dragon fight was at least a low C, but it's about right. I think I'd put Placidusax above Midir personally
Lol placidusax is so boring and bad mechanically. Sure he has a few cool attacks and visuals but he just kinda misses you most of the time even when you’re not dodging. I was so let down and bored fighting him. Easier than midir, worse soundtrack, way worse mechanically, worse lore. Only good part was the visuals you new age bastard
@@Diablopray ost - depends on taste, am not fan of midir ost, it is just good. Worse lore - definetly not, while Midir has good lore, Placi has so much more to him. Easier - midir isn't even that hard, he is tedious to fight. Even fighting his head you deal little damage. fight takes forever and is really repetetive - you dont even think on his attacks, dodge on reflexes and hit after every attack
@@danylonazarov Bro the last part is the literal definition of Placi
@@andreamicheli2575 well, idk, for me it was definition of Midir. Like, i like him overall, but mechanically - Gael, demon prince, hell - even Halflight were more fun for me
@@danylonazarov Oh god please no, you were going so well but saying that Halflight is fun invalidates everything you said.
All of the field boss dragons in Elden Ring should be ranked the same because they’re all the same except for a different skin and different element
Placidusax, then Sinh, then Divine Dragon, then Adula, then Ancient Dragon i say.
I agree that the boss fight of Dragon God itself is bad, though I think the Dragon God itself is cool. I think it's not as bad as Bed of Chaos though, because not only is the trek to the boss not long at all, but the only hard part is the two ballista things. After that it's just hitting him until he dies really. With Bed of Chaos, getting to her is a pain and while hitting her two spots is easy, falling down to her third spot without falling and dying is a pain.
placidusax is my number 1. Spectacle. Quality. God tier arena. Pretty difficult
Sorry but watching Gough shoot Kalameet out of the sky for me personally is one of the coolest thing in the entire series, maybe the actual fight isnt as good as some later ones like Midir , but the whole set up before you fight him in the dlc definitely elevates it to the best dragon for me
I'm curious to know if Oceiros is missing in this list or if it was intentionally not included since it is still transitioning into being a dragon.
Furthermore, personally I consider Ebrietas to be a Dragonlike creature which I would have loved to see ranked in this tier list, even if only considered as an honorable mention or something.
i can see where you're coming from but Ebrietas feels more like a Kraken type than dragon
I have always considered ebrietas the bloodborne equivalent of a dragon as well. I would put her in A, maybe a low S.
Should have graded Greyoll for if you fight it the intended way (which nobody has ever done) by killing the little dragons around it.
Why grade it that way if nobody does it?
Speaking of Bed of Chaos, can’t believe it took me so long to think….. “Use a fucking BOW!”
Guardian dragon arena is so sick
I stand by what I said during the stream, I think Placidusax is the best dragon boss in all of From Soft
Meh. Phase 1 = does nothing, really. Phase 2 = better, but mostly flying around and teleporting. Midir is better.
@@Al-ji4gd Dude he summons lightning and a whole nuke in phase 1 and phase 2 is just awesome with the teleporting and lasers.
@@darrylunlistedbard9527 I never said he isn't cool. Just that there isn't much to the fight mechanically, and the constant flying/teleporting can get annoying.
No you’re just a new age Melvin that sees shiny things and thinks it’s cool. The mechanics of the fight are terrible he just has cool visuals and some cool attacks. Terrible flow to the fight, he just misses you most of the time or does nothing. Easy boring and honestly pathetic boss fight.
@@Al-ji4gdyeah it’s terrible mechanically just a bunch of new kids playing Elden ring that like shiny things. “Hey it looks cool it’s the best” ahahaha these kids, like Elden ring have no soul.
Elden Ring was my first souls game and I loved the Rot dragon fight
Elden ring dragons r really mid; Placidusax is cool and all but he has some annoying attacks, fortisax is overrated, rest of dragons r copy and paste. Play ds3 and fight midir, best dragon
@@creepergaming3445 nah fortissax is properly rated, everyone agrees that the boss fight is carried by the ost, boss arena and the spectacle
Placidusax is the best dragon in soul game
Yes he is not hard unlike midir i get it but his skillset are visually stunning and the fight are fun
Not to mention he hv the coolest design
Now i want a ranking of every reskin miniboss and boss in elden ring.
Covetous demon is winning in a landslide
Great vid. Going further with Midir, I think it’s the best fight they have ever made, period. It’s such a literal Dance with a Dragon, I love it. But the arena is kinda bland and whatever. So Midir is the best fight, but my fav dragon is Lich Dragon Fortissax
You should rank gank squads of the soulsborne series
Oh I love that idea
Watching the blind giant snipe Kalameet was more fun than actually fighting the bastard
in regards to Ancient Dragon, when DS2 originally came out his fly up then down breath attack covered like 90% of the arena. im not kidding.
so when you went for the feet, his AI would tell him to fly up and do the breath attack most of the time so you would have time to get in 1 or 2 hits before you had to run well before his animation started. plus his breath attack did more damage, last longer and i THINK hit more often during the duration.
when people say he was a hard boss this was the version they talk about because so many people never played the patched version of the fight
Shout out to the Chad's that discussed this tierlist live with me :)
I want to say the DS2 wyvern you put in C tier is the one outside of the Old Dragonslayer room in Tower of Flame. I’d recommend F tier for that
Gaping Dragon is A for sure !!!! The tail cut weapon , the alternate fighting landscape depending if you kill the channelers. The awesome mechanics. A for suuuurreeeee
I have no nostalgia factor since I played the game not very long ago for the first time, and kalameet is my favorite. A is completely fair if this is about mechanics, tho I still enjoy them like crazy, but if you are keeping in mind stuff like looks(design itself, his fire, the calamity eye thing) and setup(with all the gough mini quest and cutscene), which are superior to midir imo, I think its one of the most hype things in the whole franchise.
I dont know if anyone else knows but i like ekzyke because its fun to bait him in killing the night cavalty thats near him (the one that holds poison moth flight) so i say upper C would be cool but he is fine where he is
In defense of Acient Dragon, considering that it is acient, it would be slow. However, since it is so ancient, he has build up size/strength. A lot of other dragons are small and quick. However, AD is a lot more of a tank and shows what happens when you try to take on a huge beast of a dragon. It's like the difference between getting hit by a branch of a tree and getting a whole sequoia tree slammed down on you.
'Dragon God is worse than Bed of Chaos.' At last someone said it.
Please can someone explain why Placidusax gets SO MUCH love, i genuinely cannot understand
Actual Dragon God
And its cinematic asf
I feel this way about MIDir
he looks cool af, good bossfight, 2 laserbeams, big nuke
Midir is literally the only dragon that fights you... he's not just the best fromsoft dragon but best dragon fight out of any game I've played in over 20 years.
100%. He’s a pissed off dragon that brings the fight to you and is great mechanically. Plasidusax barely does anything and misses you half the time he attempts something. Just has cool visuals that’s it
yes hes the best dragon boss in a video game no bullshit just straight skill you can no hit him after enough practice pretty easily hes fair
Magma wyrm Makar should be b ngl its a good alt to dectus and a cool fight being repeated shouldn't bring it down as much as it does
Now are you ranking the Dragons themselves and their boss fight or just the boss fight and them as dragon bosses ?
If it wasn’t for the toxic and corrosive scales sinh would be my favorite since it’s a dragon that uses its wings and attacks from the sky like I’d imagine a dragon would
Kalameet is the first ever dragon boss fight in a soulsborne game so that means that they know how to make dragon boss fights
bro, Greyoll is neat, you fight the surrounding dragons to defeat him normally. it's like draining his essence from the others, and he debuffs you, it's not just a free soul unless you choose to do that.
Sinh is so underated, the boss was so hard my first playthrough because I didn't invest in any ranged attacks. Midir is still the true Dragon God of the series. All the Eldenring bosses were the easiest in the franchise, but every dragon fight (excluding the rune farm dragon boss) as well as Rykard (not a dragon i know) were the most enjoyable fights I had, mainly because they for the most part actually posed a challenge and some actually managed to kill me multiple times.
I forgot there were so many Dragon is Elden Ring. Kinda blend together after a while.
Kalameet is objectively a great BOSS fight, and top tier Dragon fight
Midir makes me wanna pull my hair out sometimes lol
Congrats for your sub count well deseerved
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Im my opinion placidusax is the Dragon goat 😜
Cheers ember keep up the good work
Yo thank you so much 😭😭
Fortissax would have been an amazing boss without the stupid time bomb and better head placement like Midir
if they gave him 5x health and took away the static lightning bull shit he would be on midirs level
@@giantdad2414 Many bosses deserves that 5x health buff
When you loved the Dragon Incantations and still remember all their names
U forgot Oceiros from DS3, if ur including wyrms u gotta pay credit. One of the most unique and interesting bosses the souls series has offered, obviously slept on
Nice breakdown dude. I mostly agree. I did think Sinh was one of the best fights in all of DS2.
personally i would switch placidusax and kalameet, and im not even a souls boomer lol
I like Midir a lot better than Placidusax. The sheer size of the boss, the methodical and fair moveset that will one shot you at SL1, the absolute spectacle of his special moves like the beam and explosion, and the reward being my favorite weapon in the entire series all combine to make him #1 for me. Kalameet is fun as well, but he’s a little too easy aside from getting the tail cut. When you’re fresh off killing Manus, he’s just not that intimidating 😂
midir is the 3rd best boss fight in fromsofts games
Placisusax is my favorite! Pity that he got a low health bar. Just imagine fighting him in his prime! 5 headed dragon lord!
Ohhh and my boy Fortisax! Damn the ost is sooo epic during the boss fight! And also a pity abt his health bar too!
Fortisax is so overrated he’s basically just a normal dragon but with cool ost. Midir is better than Placidusax
@@creepergaming3445 fortissax's fight shouldve been like midir
I personally like king of the storm, but I could see it getting boring if you removed nameless kings lighting attacks during that phase.
they should just add a random obscure dragon from the souls game like borealis the freezing fog to fornite and confuse everyone
Placidusax is better then medir
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I like Placi more than Midir, and actually i don't understand why people like Midir that much, imo he's technically pretty easy boss, lorewise he's cool, but nothing that impressive about him. And giving Kalameet such high place on the list is a crime. The most buggy and laggy dragon fight with no logic at all, i'd give him low D rank, gaping dragon is way better than him.
I'd put Divine Dragon in S and lower Placidusax to A. And I'd bump Ancient Wyvern up to C maybe even low B. Same treatment for Guardian Dragon too. Other than that I agree with the list.
i dont care what anyone says placi is better than midir
Same, fighting Midir was kinda boring and annoying
Objectively correct
Why? He literally does fuck all in phase 1, and phase 2 is mostly him teleporting and flying around. I don't love any of the dragon fights, but Midir is a far better fight than Placidusax, mechanically and it's not even close.
@@Al-ji4gd Well, for me the Midir fight was too tedious, and felt too long. Last time I played with a str build, and still dealt so little DMG to him. Placidusax not just looks better visually, but the fight itself feels more entertaining. Everytime I do a NG+ looking forward to fight Placi, but Midir? Not so much. And I really love difficult/challenging bosses.
Comparing these two is a bit unfair, Placidusax plays nothing like a dragon boss. But if we compare them based on how successfully they perform their assigned roles, then Placidusax is the one with the better execution. Placidusax is simply put the perfect spectacle fight without an assigned gimmick. Midir on the other hand is Dark Souls 3's attempt at modernising a classic style dragon boss and it's almost great, but he's too big for the camera to keep track of him in some situations wether your camera is locked on or not, he also has a number of attacks that are just time wasters without the same level of spectacle Placidusax has.
I thought the one you couldn't remember was the guardian dragon from Dark Souls 2 but if not maybe it's the bridge drake from Dark Souls.
Pretty bad, there's no Oceiros in this tier list. Yeah, he isn't technically a dragon, but it's still really good fight
Yet another tier list that is completely ruined by the chat...
Sihn personally is way more interesting and engaging to fight then Midir. Midir is overated for his visuals, and mechanically - either you fight his body and suck, or fight his head - 90% of fight dodge-attack repeat. Tedious. Even if overall he is still really good boss, and it is really satisfying when fight "clicks" for you, it is not fight i look forward repeating
Please stop calling every boss in existence slept on
Pretty good their list, would have swapped placiducex with midir personally but other that nothing really.
(Difference with the magma worms is one of the includes their phase 2 while the other is exclusively phase one)
Plasidusax sucks mechanically he just has cool visuals. One of the most boring fights in Fromsoft history
@@Diablopray I disagree, while I agree the spectacle is the main selling point I still think he is better fight than midir. Midir moves his head around so much and u can’t lock on to his legs, I feel like I’m fighting a faramazula dragon with a good ost
@@jackmckeen6183 you’re not supposed to fight his legs you imbecile. You hit his head. That’s why it’s a good fight mechanically. Unlike the other dragons where you’re swinging at legs and wings, where they just miss you with attacks. You fight midir head on and actually have to dodge well. I feel sorry for you
@@jackmckeen6183 Midir holds his head still after pretty much every attack though, he has a lot of openings
@@jackmckeen6183 "you can't lock on to midir's legs"
Dude midir was not designed to be attacked From the legs heck the fight straight up punishs you if try to attack the legs
I didn’t even know you streamed lol
Just started!!
Midir fight is a running simulator. Change my mind.
Gaping dragon has peak ost
Do every humanoid boss ranked
I had a very hard time with the dlc dragon of dark souls 2
I remember the first time I played DS1 and was fighting the gaping dragon and my controller died half way through the fight, but the boss was so easy that I still killed it after having to change the batteries in my controller. 🤣
Red dragon from demons souls put straight fear into me. Whenever I would run to t Ross the bridge I’d get super scared and get chills cuz it’s super loud and the remote rumbles
Before video starts... would Ebrietas count as a dragon fight?
Don't do Greyoll dirty like that. Yea you can cheese her really easy for free runes, but the actual fight is kinda neat. For those who haven't fought her the proper way the fight is basically her calling her children to defend her because she can't fight and if you beat all 3 dragons she summons she dies(or you can hide under her wing where they cant get to and bleed cheese her) It's a cool concept because she is in lore the mother of all dragons except the ancients ones in the game.
literally just started the video, if midir doesnt go in s+ im gonna shit my pants
great takes across the board, great video👍
I feel like Dragon God is an interesting concept for a boss, but it's horrible in practice. I feel like Arkham did it better with their stealth boss.
Just get rid of the health bar on Ancient Wyvern and it's fixed. Also, having just killed Fortissax at RL1, I'd say Kalameet was a better fight melee, but they're pretty close. I also tend to be annoyed when people just rank Demon's Souls at the lowest spot for something, but in this case it's entirely justified. The game has a cut ballista that let you shoot things; imagine if after you got past the red and blue dragon once you could use the ballista to take them out. Would've bumped them up to B or C tier.
Another 🔥 video!
What mods did you use? I don't remember the games looking as nice as they did in this video
The one you left at highest of C I am very sure is the dragon that you have to kill to get to the old dragon slayer in ds2 and hes definitely a low D
I too agree that Gaping Dragon is the most-underrated boss in DS1, because I think no other boss more perfectly exemplifies what the game is all about- huge, nightmarishly hideous, intimidating, easily capable of squashing you flat practically without trying if you're careless or reckless or clumsy or just charge in mashing the attack button like a moron, but if you slow down and take your time, think, and as the saying goes, _git gud,_ you can make this ancient abomination into your cringing scaly bitch with ease. _That's Dark Souls._ Given that people have been seen completing soul level 1 runs of the game using Guitar Hero controllers, can you really say that the Gaping Dragon is "too easy" for a game like Dark Souls? No. It's basically perfect.
How you gonna do Theodorix like that bro? 🥲 If there’s any magma wyrm that should be ranked it should be him lol
Fortissax was a good boss ruined by multiple things. You cant lock on to his legs and his head is too high up, if they made him more like midir where your supposed to hit his head (You know..... making a dragon fight actually interesting for once?) than he would be great. Lower his head, 1.7x the hp, make it so you can lock on to his legs individually and his head and BOOM he is an S tier fight.
Fortissax is mid. All the dragon fights are overrated. Worst kind of boss in the series. Always cool visually and in terms of design. Mechanically, though, they almost universally suck.
And the best ones are the ones that feel nothing like a dragon boss(Divine Dragon and Placidusax).
@@botondkunos1774plasidusax was so boring it was hysterical
@@Diablopray i find it hard to get bored fighting a giant teleporting lightning dragon that can also breathe holy golden fire. It's a grand spectacle.
i wish they would just copy paste midir into elden ring best dragon fight imo and if I could fight him but he has lightning attack or poison or frost it would be awesome
Cool, now try to rank the hardest bosses in from soft games, really want to know your opinion
King of the Storm is probably D for me, I kinda hate it, I actually prefer the Guardian Dragon over it. And I'd have every single Elden Ring dragon on C or higher, because while they aren't original, the base template they use is by itself considerably better than the likes of King of the Storm or Guardian Dragon. I think people complain too much about recycled designs and ignore how good said designs are. Many Elden Ring bosses that everyone hates are actually pretty good bosses, but they are treated as if they're horrible because you fight them multiple times, this includes Ulcerated Tree Spirits, Burial Tree Watchdogs, Tibia Mariner and most of all the dragons (Godskins too, but I think they're hated more because of the Duo than becuase there are many). At least people give credit to Crucible Knights and Tree Sentinels, because those bosses are TOO good to be ignored even with repetition.
Also, smaller note but I actually like him more than Kalameet.
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