2024 Subaru WRX TR Review - Is This "Tuner Ready" WRX Worth $43,000?
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- Опубліковано 17 чер 2024
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Timecodes:
0:00 - Intro
1:01 - What Makes The "TR" Special
1:47 - Drivetrain
3:34 - Interior
5:12 - BFB Test
5:27 - Seats
6:00 - Back Seats
6:46 - Trunk / Cargo Space
7:22 - Exterior
7:56 - Final Thoughts
10:30 - Outro - Авто та транспорт
TR actually stands for Track Ready in this iteration. They changed the meaning. No, I wouldn't pay $43k for this thing lol
guess that means it will still blow up
Yeah tune ready sounds dumb
@@raikoh05ha so funny. Found the comedian. 🤡
I just bought one after coming from a loaded 2022 WRX manual and the TR is amazing!!! It’s night and day better to drive than the last model. The chassis being stiffer, brakes, suspension, and the recaro seats are game changers. I don’t know if there is a better Faul sport sedan out there. Insane fun, insane value.
@@SuzukiKid400 Oh, I own a VB as well! Lol, I also agree that they are insane value for money. Buuuut, with my Premium I get the same engine, and I already love the driving dynamics of it as well. It's soooo nice to have a daily that can drive all year and be super fun.
Damn zack almost 150k subs 😀😀👍👍🙏🙏
You hit every nail on the head on the TR points and what a Tuner is looking for. Cheapest/least options, since we're gonna spend 1000's on the tuning part of it.
worth every penny, beautiful car, love the black cladding, love the rear BRZ-ish tail lights. glad Subaru still making the WRX
😍😍 cool,always love Subarus! Taillighrs are especially different.
I like the looks of that & I don't mind the wheel arches, I think the Subaru SUVs have that as well, so it's like a Subaru trademark.
I love the looks and the performance of this car. I test drove one back in January and it was great. I may be trading in my 2017 STI for one in 2025.
I’m picking up one of these. Can someone help with a query. Can you load music onto a USB flash drive and play it ? Or does Apple CarPlay prevent this ?
I appreciate Subaru introducing this trim level since hardly anyone wants the CVT only GT, but is it REALLY worth the $7000 up charge from the Premium trim.
Where I live they start at $60k and sales numbers are very low.
One simple "tune", and it will be north of 300hp that would be it into STI territory.
It looks like a sti wanna be, but it looks great 👍 I wish it had the sti wing..
I'd buy one, if it only had the side skirts of the Levorg. A crossover sedan just looks odd, specially in today's full cross over state and shooting brake market.
You can buy STi skirts through Subaru parts.
Subaru should bring the whole Levorg and create a manual option for the Levorg while they are at it! The Levorg is sold as a WRX Sportswagon in Australia, but there's still so manual.
I don't like the huge key on my Wilderness.
My civic has a smaller key with remote start integrated to it.
I know I'm an old curmudgeon now, but I wouldn't pay $43,000 for any car, period. I remember when a New Lexus LS 400 went for $35,000. I know, inflation and all that jazz. Play still could never bring myself to spend that kind of money on a car.
Now get off my lawn!
Like literally nothing at all? There are some cars left that I’d pay out for if they really invoked some serious smiles per gallon.
A '55 Cadillac was $7,000, four times the price of an ordinary $1,600 '55 Chevrolet. I don't think you can discount 35 years and 70 years of inflation respectively so casually! A small to moderate amount of inflation is a deliberate policy to ensure people don't hoard money but rather invest in productive enterprises (obviously 7-10% inflation in 2023 is more than they intended though!) -- 1-2% per year soon adds up and now your 2024 Cadillac CT6 is $65,000 USD (China only model as sedans are both not profitable and bad for CAFE MPG in North America). I'm sure in 1990 there were people saying, "I remember when you could pay $7,000 for a Caddy, $27,000 for a 1990 Sedan de Ville is too much money for a car. " 😉 Wage growth stagnating compared to inflation is unfortunate, but that's a different policy topic... 🙁
@@TheLadiesman0815 Absolutely no. I am not dropping that kind of money on a depreciating asset.
@@TheLadiesman0815I would prefer a car that is both fun and efficient
@@thatcarguy1UZmost assets are depreciating. Do you not have furniture in your house either? Subarus hold their value amazingly well, and if you keep the car long enough your amortized cost of ownership after you sell the car is pretty low. We’re talking about a compact car here, not a $400k rolls.
The price is close too civic type R
In 2019, I bought a brand new WRX STI Limited for $43k out the door. Base STIs were going for way less like in the high $30Ks.
$43k in 2019 dollars is equal to $53,355 in 2024 dollars. Inflation is a real thing.
"Base STIs were going for way less like in the high $30Ks." Yep, people were complaining about the rival Civic Type R being a $35-37k car back then (before markups) too, and now it's a $45k car before markups...
I was gonna comment the exact same thing about inflation, but someone already beat me to it lol.
I know how it be in 2018 I bought a SS 1LE $40k. With that car on track I was often able to beat GT350, M2, full race cars, ect for cheap. That same car they want like $50k+ and killing it this year 😢
Remember the pandemic? And what happened to car prices? And inflation?
Apparently not?😂
Sounds like it ain’t worth much at front, but it will hold better resale value than lower trims, so you are getting a but more return. I’m personally going to try to buy this one over the upcoming tS because it will be much more unique (only one year of production and red brembos) + i love analog gauges: it’s the reason that I love the wrx. Because it’s very mechanical and old-school. If I want it digital things, the wrx wouldnt make much sense - an Elantra N would (gimmicky, gaming style driving, fake pops and bangs…)
Zaack...
2 circles containing 4 gauges
You know how sometimes we warm up to polarizing design over time? Still waiting (that rear end 🤢).
It doesn't bother me that much seeing WRXs out and about. I dunno. It's still obvious that the styling is an evolution of the VA styling. I guess an aftermarket company might come up with replacement design rear skirt (and wheel arch trims)?
@@TassieLorenzo styling preferences are subjective so I tried to just shrug it off 😬 but there’s something about how tall the taillights are and how narrow the rear and looks because of it. In person the car doesn’t look desirable with that underbite bumper either. Years later I’m still not vibing. I actually don’t mind the matte plastic over the wheels tho.
How nice of Subaru to suggest modifying the WRX (vis a vis the TR suffix), then void your warranty for doing so.
An affordable, enthusiast performance car) wow the price is close too civic type R!!!
$44K for that? Crazy.
Don’t buy it. 💁♂️
It’s not $44k. The MSRP of the TR in the US is $41,655. The WRX GT with all the bells and whistles and the automatic CVt is $44,215. In Canada, the TR is even cheaper at $41k Canadian. That translates to about $30k USD.
If you got money to put down on this tr Well you might as well put it down on type R civic!
@@SuzukiKid400 That's great. But that's not how it works. If you're buying a US-market car in the US, you're paying at least $40k. The MSRP is $41.6k, you're not getting $11k off.
@@blue-tb2fdthat’s not how what works? You didn’t disagree with anything I said.
DIY STI?
I got my 2021 sti for 41k brand new... makes this thing look like a ripoff for sure
Lots of good commentary, but the number of people willing to pay $30,000 for a car without a radio is probably in the single digits....
TR stands for track ready.
You tell about the engine performance and hp but forgot to tell us in today's environment what the mpg are.
Id rather buy a nice bugeye for 5 10k
Facts
Head gaskets
@@TheRealCatof that was the 2.5 your thinking of and let's be honest every subi ever is going to or has already blown head gaskets
without rebuilding the engine, is this shit still going to blow up?
New engine is much much more reliable can handle 400whp no problem. It's only running 12 lbs of boost stock so very conservative tune should last long time
To answer that, no.
Go base for 10 gs less
I think this is an excuse for Subaru not to revive the STi name. They did the same thing with the BRZ. At least they could have given this a bit more power to justify the price increase over the regular WRX.
30k? Sure $43k hell no!
I own a vb wrx and I have to strongly disagree about the shifter feel. It’s by a mile my least favorite part of the car. It crunches into gear. Feels sloppy, and is crazy loose when in first or second gear.
I have a 23 Premium. I kinda like the shifter. You can feel it going into gears unlike other FWD cars I drove. This one is similar to my 91 supra.
I wonder if they vary from car to car? I've test-driven a couple '22s, and they have the same shifter as my 2021 WRX. Kinda clunky. Not smooth and precise like, say, every Honda manual I've ever driven. I do wish I had the Brembo brakes though; the regular WRX brakes are marginal at best.
@@peoriavideosltd6822 it probably is. When I first sat in a VB in the showroom, it is kinda clunky and I cant even go through all the gears (engine off). When I got mine, it was at first, but not as bad as the one in the showroom. After around 500 miles, it was flawless and its been good ever since.
@@peoriavideosltd6822 It's called tolerance stacking and it's very possible. Parts are machined to within a certain tolerance. One transmission might get lucky and get a bunch of tighter parts while one may get a bunch of sloppier parts.
I don't have this at all in my WRX. The shifter is one of my favorite things about the car. Mine came with the STI short throw shifter though so maybe that makes a difference?
It's not a bad car, but I could spend 43K in better places....don't ask me what, but this just doesn't have enough meat on the bone to make me hungry or get up and get it. Putting brembos and recaros on a Toyota Corolla isn't gonna turn any heads....
TRACK REDY
My 2018 Limited fully loaded STI with 7 dealer options was 43,995. Color (WRBP)
1. Short throw shifter
2.duracon shift knob
3.all season floor mats
4.front lip spoiler
5.both weather kits
6.led side sill STI plates
7.red led floor lights kit
My Car had 6 miles on it when I picked it up in 2018, how on earth Subaru is charging the same money for a VB in 2024 is ridiculous I’d never give up my ej for a VB. GOOD LUCK Subaru moving these at that price point especially with these ridiculous interest rates.
$43,995 in 2018 is equal to $55,437 in 2024 dollars. The STi is a nice car, but it’s not as good as a regular VB chassis WRX. The TR trim makes the VB WRX even better yet.
@@SuzukiKid400 "The STi is a nice car, but it’s not as good as a regular VB chassis WRX." Objectively maybe, but subjectively the STi has more character (NA is my preference, but if it has to be turbo I much prefer the old school surge of boost at 3500rpm, much more fun than modern turbo four cylinder engines that just simulate a bigger six cylinder engine that happens to be doughy on the throttle and sound kinda bad) and is probably more fun to drive. The Aisin 6-speed gearbox in the STi is still much stronger than the Subaru 6-speed too!
I don't know why, but I always found people that use engine names to describe cars to be cringe. It's mainly just BMW and Subaru fanboys
@@TassieLorenzoDoes the STI have character though, outside the massive wing? Subaru WRXs and STIs are some of the most common and least interesting sports cars in my opinion.
@@TheRealCatof Yes it has more character... to drive? I love the EJ engine over the FA (yes, the EJ block is flawed and not strong enough to support lots of power). I had a GC8 WRX with a VF34 GDB Spec C turbo on it -- it was good, the reassuring thrum of inefficiency of the unequal length header is fun!
The final VA WRX STi is still basically the same car the original 6-speed GDB WRX STi from 2001-2005 (depending on whether it's 2.5L or 2.0L, international market car or Japanese market car) -- *you got a brand new 20 year old car for your money*, that's what you want!
I'm not sure the FA24 turbo is more fun than the old-school EJ engine with the fun turbo lag -- the FA24DIT revs even lower than the FA20DIT (6000rpm! my Aus-spec EJ20G had a 7000rpm redline, and the EJ207 was traditionally a 8000rpm redline), even if the lower boost level means there aren't problems with the factory tune anymore.
19s on a tuner ready car. Mistake.
Looks like one of subarus ugly era cars, they go through those phases from time to time and then they come out with absolute banger desgins
subarus have always been ugly, its literally a part of their marketing strategy.
An affordable, enthusiast performance car is really tough to pull off.
Mazda Miata
That’s it. That’s the entire list. Get a base manual Miata, and go ham with the money you just saved.
Subaru BRZ's price isn't far away from MX-5, is it? It's not MX-5 light, but the BRZ is still pretty light compared to most cars. I wouldn't begrudge someone who wants the extra space and practicality of the BRZ or GR86 over the MX-5. I think it's really a shame that big conglomerates like VW Group don't bother to compete in the affordable sportscar space.
Who keeps buying crackeroni pizza at Subaru HQ?
Subaru doesn't really want to be in the performance market any more. They'd rather focus on the outdoorsy, light off-road crowd. Still, at least they're still making the WRX even if they did try to make it look like an SUV.
Subaru should put the WRX's powertrain in the Crosstrek. If they won't give us a WRX hatchback, they can at least make some sort of ultimate Crosstrek.
If they didn't care, it wouldn't be this good. Do some research. The current gen WRX probably has the highest tuning ceiling of any car currently on sale. But it's also comfortable and more refined for folks who don't want to tune it. Pretty smart if you ask me.
And it's an AWD sports sedan that you can get in the low $30s. In the age of $40k Corollas and $65k Civics, that's a huge win.
Subaru is smokin ass
Tuner ready? So after you drop 45k on it, the people buying these are expected to drop more money on pointless 'upgrades'?
I'll never understand the tuner appeal, its just eeking out more horsepower to make sure the driver's ego is nice and inflated. I'm absolutely biased against them because there's two types of drivers that I see repeatedly pass double-yellows, tailgate, and drive recklessly - 18-25 year olds in ricers/tuners and practically anybody in a big jacked-up truck.
TR now stands for Track Ready. No longer tuner ready like the early 2000s trim.
If the driver's happy, that's all that matters. To them, the upgrades aren't pointless. Many people love modifying their cars because they can.
To be fair NA tuning is actually fun. Tweaking inlet velocity stacks in the OE manifold, tweaking primary and secondary runner lengths and diameters in the header (doing science to calculate resonances etc). Endlessly tweaking, whether you have half a V8 (an inline-four, or half a flat-eight in the BRZ) or a whole V8 -- it's *fun*, even if it gets expensive quick finding 5hp there or 10hp here (10 or 20hp respectively if it's a NA V8). Turning up the boost on some turbo car on the other hand? Not quite so interesting...
The vitriol really starts once they are actual race engines, and people are slinging mud at other engine shops for not optimising volumetric efficiency and the like ("you can only get 300hp at 9300rpm from this 2.0 inline-four, I can get 310hp at 8200rpm with the same engine, XYZ is a joke builder, they need to tune their intake resonances better" 😂 ...not everyone can afford a Cosworth or Neal Brown Engineering engine that is perfectly optimised with decades of experience!)
Meh.
Civic type R over this. But the Subaru will get you through winter snow very comfortably.
If I had one of these I would raise it 1 inch and put All Terrains have it like a rally car setup.
It's a nice looking car.
Absolutely zero chance of finding a CTR at this price or anything close to it. Cheapest CTR I've seen in Canada is 75k.
Even as a subaru fan boy, with the brembos, Recaros, 6 speed, it still isnt worth 40k+ (and is ugly)
High price for a ugly ass car I own a blobeye STI really only bought it bc they killed off the sti prices are starting to get crazy especially for interior crap
Seriously 😳 not worth the money putting a STI shift knob in a WRX does not make it a STI , upgraded brakes was a must , the seats is nice , upgrading the suspension, good but it has still the same engine, transmission and clutch, I thought the TR was going to be the new STI but it is not, I have a 2022 Premium WRX completely modified and tuned, which I am currently trading in for a actual STI , because Subaru is not going to make the STI , and I can actually get a good STI cheaper than a wannabe $43,000 is completely crazy for a new WRX
Anything over 38k for a wrx is not worth it. Above 38k, you are closing in on another class of cars that outclass the wrx. So, the wrx TR is, in fact, not worth the price
Not for 44k, if that was sold for 25k, u put 10-15k then u got something. Honestly that needs 2 b the future of cars. No more mass production, u pick out everything in a catalog and have the manuf make it by the order. I would pay 50-60-70k for a custom built car from the factory NOT for these copycat lookalike #CustomIzTheFuture
This car is absolute fucking garbage.
1. This doesn't compete with the Elantra N when it makes 4 more horsepower but weighs 300lbs more.
2. Calling this car a WRX is an insult to the pedigree of the WRX. This is little more than a Subaru Legacy GT, since they don't actually offer that trim anymore in the Legacy and it's basically the same size.
3. Subaru's cars are largely un-tunable because they break, and that's why they've fallen out of favor with youths. Even though the BRZ is an exception, it gets lapped by it's badge-engineered Toyota twin because Toyota has developed a better reputation as a tuner brand and managed to maintain that reputation despite making transportation appliances for about 15 years earlier this century.
4. "tuner" models used to be the go-fast bits and nothing else and as a result, they used to cost less than mid-level trims because they skipped the luxuries. Not the case here; this is barely less expensive than the top of the line model while giving you stupid shit you don't need like advanced driving assist and a giant touchscreen that weighs and costs entirely too much. They'll throw you off the track for listening to the radio while you drive.
If this is what Subaru has turned into, they need to go the way of Mitsubishi and just focus on making SUVs because nobody wants a $43,000 'tuner ready' WRX that gets it's ass handed to it by an EcoBoost Mustang for $12,000 less.
Do some research. The VB WRX is an absolute monster tuned, and is proving very, very reliable.
And it absolutely competes with the Elantra N. It can be had for cheaper and is within 4 hp. And in most conditions the WRX will actually beat the Elantra N from a dig.
I agree that the TR (which means track ready, not tune ready) is not the way to buy this car. But it turns out that the WRX is selling really, really well for Subaru - so your last statement is, well, wrong.
How are you comparing a WRX to an ecoboost mustang? The mustang doesn’t have functional rear doors or AWD. Straight line speed is not why people by these cars. The WRX has grown up. It’s a sport sedan for average families. It’s not a muscle car or a drag car.
@@SuzukiKid400 If you have time to tune, you sure as hell don't have kids and nobody's riding in that back seat.
@@homersapienne2356the WRX is Subaru’s best selling vehicle to people with a family. I literally sold all my muscle cars and sports cars for this WRX because it’s still really fun but I can drive it to work, grocery shop, and take my kids to and from school. Most WRX owners use the back seats.
@@homersapienne2356 I have a kid and a dog and a wife and a job and only one car and tuned my VB with a Cobb and e-tune. It took 20 minutes and now I can hang with Golf Rs.
The rear seats are actually roomier than most CUVs and sedans. We've packed this thing with bikes on the roof and camping stuff in every nook and cranny imaginable and gone on 2-3 week trips, zero issue.
You literally have no idea what you're talking about lol