That’s the point, the out of touch monarch inspired Thatcher fired her cabinet for changes later on 😂 like princess Margaret told her: it give her perspective
The episode about the Balmoral Test was meant to be ironic, I think. Thatcher failed the test, then-Lady Diana passed with flying colors. But in the end, who gave the Queen more grief -- Thatcher or Diana?
I also found it interesting that during Diana's test she seemed to be putting on a bit of a front. I love Diana, but it turned out later in the season that she didn't actually like the country or hunting, which caused a further rift between her and Charles. Thatcher was one hundred percent herself the entire trip and visibly hated it. You knew what you were gonna get with Thatcher at all times.
To be fair, Diana came from upper class. In fact, she was related to Charles. Which made it easier for her to fit into the snob and classist environment the Royal family appreciate. She was, in fact, different from all of them. She was a far kinder and tender soul, but she knew the rules of the game, which gave her the upper hand, unlike Thatcher who only find out about the test at the last moment.
Gillian Anderson was a terrible choice. She plays Thatcher like she was some sort of withering sparrow with none of the strength and vigor that Maggie possessed.
I think Anderson did the best she could with the way the character was written, but Thatcher was only 53 when elected PM, and yet the way Anderson played her, she came across like a creaky 75 year old.
@@deathbecomeshim5262 I was so frustrated watching this episode, as the circumstances made me feel bad for her. The concept of which made me angry itself.
I know a lot of this is drama and the accuracy is questionable but if they really did treat Thatcher in such a snobbish and unfriendly way at Balmoral then 'The Crown' has done something that I never thought would happen - it actually made me feel sorry for Thatcher.
There's no evidence that Thatcher was treated badly by the royal family. She still hated her visits to Balmoral though because she considered it a waste of time.
i met thatcher when i was 5yo, my grandmother would take me leafleting for her constituency and she had a get together after her second election thanking all the local volunteers. all i remember is her being really nice however one thing that stuck in my mind was how all the adults i met would bendover or lean in the try and talk to me at eye level, but she didnt. i have the photo of the event but annoyingly the person who took the photo cut me out the frame, so my arm has a photo with thatcher but not me. lol
@@maestroclassico5801 MT was a package, like all people. She had a soft, womanly body and face, and a soothing (when she wanted it to be) voice which made her irresistible. Millions of British men were utterly seduced by that Nanny voice! And I'm not even British! Women of the mid-1920s (like the Queen, for instance), were just sexy as Hell. Gillian, on the other hand, 43 years younger, is angular and spare, and her voice is more modern. They had to strain like Holy Hell to make her LOOK like MT (probably 10 cans of hair-spray per take), and so, given a choice, I would take the REAL MT any day of the week! They did a very good job of making Gillian look the part, and she is attractive in her own way, but she is not Margaret.
"Women, in general, are not suited for high office". What an unexpected phrase as two female leaders talk. As a woman I found that interesting. (Of course I disagree but I think all women are not suited to lead similar to how not all men are not suited to lead)
You know what’s interesting, the communication styles of men and women IS different but that shouldn’t suggest weakness on anyone’s part. Thatcher Especially.
Well if we look at the two dismal Failures we have just had, maybe Their right. I'm the biggest fan of Maggie's, she had true leadership. Not like those spineless Eton educated Snobs with their country estates.
Well, despite everything she'd been through, Thatcher was raised and living in a time where such mislead views were still deep rooted in the society/people's minds.
Poor Margaret. I watched that episode with her at Balmor. I felt so bad for her by the end of it. 😅😅Mostly because it reminded me of when i stopped going to events at school because i just didn't fit it.
She had mummy issues really bad she loved her father and hated her mother for being a housewife.She has a history of being negative towards women in real life.
@@ljllob4740don't forget that in this show, she favored her son over her daughter & even admitted it to her. I'm surprised the daughter just didn't leave & cut ties with the mom, at least. Not sure how she felt about her dad.
I had sympathies for the royal family after Harry and Meghan fiasco but after watching this, I think the royal family absolutely deserves Harry and Meghan.
I'm tired of everyone that plays Thatcher portraying her as an old fool. She was smart and sharp during her term as PM, yet they make her look incompetent. Just awful how they need to ruin her legacy's
Idk if this was true or not but there's a lot to be said of how the monarchy treated Thatcher in the show. They clearly tried to embarrass her because she was from a working class background and didn't understand their world while most prime Ministers come from a background with some peerage. But what's sad is they didn't realize Thatcher could have been their biggest ally as she loved English tradition while Wilson and previous Ministers treated royals as a necessary evil in governance.
Phil I respect you for the fact that you are speaking what MILLIONS of us are thinking. Please give me a business email, I have some friends who agree wholeheartedly that the Wii Music is a fucking plague.
I do admire her strength in her convictions. But ultimately it was her obstinacy and unwillingness to compromise that brought her down. She's comfortable with having enemies, yes, even if it's her own cabinet ministers. But she overestimated their loyalty and how far they're willing to go with her radical right wing agenda.
Neither one of them was, to put it mildly, particularly good in this role, although Merely Streep undoubtedly did a better job because at least she was able to convey late PM’s vigor, with her being exceptionally determined, educated and energetic woman, bulldozing through extremely male-dominated environment. On the other hand there was more Margaret Thatcher in Streep’s performance than there was in the real life Iron Lady, which was more of a caricature than acting at that point, a first class impersonation, she just took it too far. Gillian did the opposite thing. I was so excited to hear she was going to play this character, she’s been one of my favorite public figures for years, I think she’s incredibly talented and beautiful, and I really did my best to love her in the role of MT, but… she took office at 54, stepping down at 65, not exactly what one would call old age, and Gillian came onboard when she was barely 50, but somehow managed to look like a frail old lady recovering from a massive stroke throughout the season. And she did have a distinctive voice, high pitched with a hint of raspy, but did not sound anything like someone dying from laryngeal cancer as Anderson did in her role, she was actually quite well spoken, and I regret to say it, but the way she was brought to life in this performance was just a mess and a total flop.
@@Neurosis_Cordis eloquently put. i like gillian but i think a lot of people calling this performance accurate haven't watched any footage of the actual thatcher.
It’s so weird seeing all of these people here talking about how relatable M. Thatcher was. She was a piece of sh*t. And Gillian Anderson portrayed that beautifully.
@@DarkAngel459 Lol It's weird because Margaret Thatcher was an elitist g@rbage person who couldn't stand working class people. So... not really relatable unless you're also an elitist bigot. But yes, anyone who doesn't get that is entitled to that opinion, regardless of how dumb they are.
@@DarkAngel459 Well, it IS weird, buddy. Because M Thatcher was notoriously a sack of sh1t. Just a d3spicable person. Sometimes... Lol "Dark Angel," people's opinions are demonstrably wrong. They are entitled to those opinions, deep thinker. That doesn't make them immune from having it pointed out how wrong those opinions are. And if you'd like to talk about whether or not M Thatcher was a huge POS based on the evidence, I'm happy to do that.
When I watched the actual clip of this particular scene here on UA-cam, someone said that they believe that Thatcher didn't want to have her guard brought down so she made sure to not get it wrong which then made the game not fun for the royals. They basically wanted her to get stripped mentally to see the real her or something like that.
I’m anti Thatcher. Severely anti thatcher as I’m a firm believer in abolishing the royal family, an independent Scotland, I live in Glasgow and my great grandfather worked as a ship builder when she essentially put them all out of work and stopped children’s free milk at school. She’s an evil cow of a woman. Or was. However….I love this series and I love the fictional representation of the old steel bat. That’s when you know a show’s got it right.
90% of the time in the Balmoral Test episode, Thatcher looked as if she wanted to burn the estate and everyone inside.
I mean, you can't really blame here. It would have been tempted as well if I was in her position.
😅
That’s the point, the out of touch monarch inspired Thatcher fired her cabinet for changes later on 😂 like princess Margaret told her: it give her perspective
The episode about the Balmoral Test was meant to be ironic, I think. Thatcher failed the test, then-Lady Diana passed with flying colors. But in the end, who gave the Queen more grief -- Thatcher or Diana?
I also found it interesting that during Diana's test she seemed to be putting on a bit of a front. I love Diana, but it turned out later in the season that she didn't actually like the country or hunting, which caused a further rift between her and Charles. Thatcher was one hundred percent herself the entire trip and visibly hated it. You knew what you were gonna get with Thatcher at all times.
To be fair, Diana came from upper class. In fact, she was related to Charles. Which made it easier for her to fit into the snob and classist environment the Royal family appreciate. She was, in fact, different from all of them. She was a far kinder and tender soul, but she knew the rules of the game, which gave her the upper hand, unlike Thatcher who only find out about the test at the last moment.
That is still up for debate.
@@darlene8130 You are right. No consensus has been reached.
That episode was really uncomfortable to me, and made me dislike all of them, even Diana.
Margaret Thatcher in the Balmoral test episode is me in any social event.
I have to admit that I rolled my eyes when I heard she was playing Thatcher, but it turned out to be the best casting decision they made.
Gillian Anderson was a terrible choice. She plays Thatcher like she was some sort of withering sparrow with none of the strength and vigor that Maggie possessed.
@@joeyfitz9 that not her that the people who make the show
@@joeyfitz9 uh? there was ample strength and vigour all over the place IMHO
That's not saying much then. Anderson portrayed Thatcher like some sort of stroke victim who couldn't hold her head upright.
I think Anderson did the best she could with the way the character was written, but Thatcher was only 53 when elected PM, and yet the way Anderson played her, she came across like a creaky 75 year old.
She’s extremely relatable. Especially the party scene, I would prob do the same thing…😂
Not u calling Maggie thatcher relatable lmao
@@deathbecomeshim5262 ok but that scene was relatable.
@@deathbecomeshim5262 I was so frustrated watching this episode, as the circumstances made me feel bad for her.
The concept of which made me angry itself.
@@CaLypSO4456 Lol why does a freaking pikachu have a hoodie?
@@viz4884 because
Prince Philip muttering “do you think they’ll come to lunch tomorrow in their pajamas?” 😂
In British English it is "pyjamas" and "pajamas" is American spelling.
That was savage
I know a lot of this is drama and the accuracy is questionable but if they really did treat Thatcher in such a snobbish and unfriendly way at Balmoral then 'The Crown' has done something that I never thought would happen - it actually made me feel sorry for Thatcher.
Thatcher described her weekends at Balmoral as "purgatory". We don't know if that was Maggie being Maggie, but I have a feeling she was right.
it's more that life at Balmoral has been the same since Victoria bought it. I'd expect that to change relatively soon
@@hutch1197 she deserved a lot worse than purgatory...
There's no evidence that Thatcher was treated badly by the royal family. She still hated her visits to Balmoral though because she considered it a waste of time.
I don't think they were snobbish and unfriendly at all. I think she was a terrible stick in the mud - with a stick up her arse!
I had a teacher like MT in elementary school. She spoke to everyone as if they were stupid, deaf or both.
But Thatcher was in British government, so she was just being honest.
Not like in elementary schools.
That’s awful
Seems like she was done with absolutely everyone for a lot longer than 4:12 minutes. :-D
i met thatcher when i was 5yo, my grandmother would take me leafleting for her constituency and she had a get together after her second election thanking all the local volunteers. all i remember is her being really nice however one thing that stuck in my mind was how all the adults i met would bendover or lean in the try and talk to me at eye level, but she didnt.
i have the photo of the event but annoyingly the person who took the photo cut me out the frame, so my arm has a photo with thatcher but not me. lol
I’m super sad about the picture I have with my arm around Mussolini that I was cut out of. Tragedy.
That whole "dibble-dibble" thing... is that based on something from real-life?
It's an actual drinking game
we used to play it at university, bloody good fun once you get to know the rules, great after dinner game.
Yeah, having severe brain damage
@@JD-fb5ps 😄
the real life of one of the writing team
Even her husband was like Dafuck
She must be a hoot at parties 🎉 🤣
😐one… dibble … … … ibble… calling… … … three… ibble… dibbles… … …😐
she's partying with satan alright
The background music is so loud in this video I can barely even hear what she’s saying at times, especially at 1:55.
What IS that game the Royal Family was playing? It was incomprehensible to me, and apparently to PM Thatcher too.
"They're too emotional."
Bitch, have you met men?!
We all said it....Gillian is far too attractive to play Mrs Thatcher. But an Emmy win later....we are all happy to be wrong!
If you gave me a choice between the two (back when it was possible, of course,) I would have taken the REAL MT hands-down.
@@bradjohnston8193 Do you mean....in the attractiveness department?
@@maestroclassico5801 MT was a package, like all people. She had a soft, womanly body and face, and a soothing (when she wanted it to be) voice which made her irresistible. Millions of British men were utterly seduced by that Nanny voice! And I'm not even British! Women of the mid-1920s (like the Queen, for instance), were just sexy as Hell. Gillian, on the other hand, 43 years younger, is angular and spare, and her voice is more modern. They had to strain like Holy Hell to make her LOOK like MT (probably 10 cans of hair-spray per take), and so, given a choice, I would take the REAL MT any day of the week! They did a very good job of making Gillian look the part, and she is attractive in her own way, but she is not Margaret.
@@bradjohnston8193 I just don't know how to say this any other way but "RATIO"
@@maestroclassico5801 In 1979, 54/20=2.7. She was beautiful.
I could have given u up for adoption when I had the chance..... This got me 😆😆😆😆😆 whoever edited this is sure going to HEAVLL
"Women, in general, are not suited for high office". What an unexpected phrase as two female leaders talk. As a woman I found that interesting. (Of course I disagree but I think all women are not suited to lead similar to how not all men are not suited to lead)
Queen Victoria was against womens rights as well.It’s just old fashioned views.
Women in positions of power overwhelmingly suffer from “not like other girls”-syndrome, more breaking news at 10, stay tuned!
You know what’s interesting, the communication styles of men and women IS different but that shouldn’t suggest weakness on anyone’s part. Thatcher Especially.
Well if we look at the two dismal
Failures we have just had, maybe
Their right. I'm the biggest fan of
Maggie's, she had true leadership.
Not like those spineless Eton educated
Snobs with their country estates.
Well, despite everything she'd been through, Thatcher was raised and living in a time where such mislead views were still deep rooted in the society/people's minds.
Poor Margaret. I watched that episode with her at Balmor. I felt so bad for her by the end of it. 😅😅Mostly because it reminded me of when i stopped going to events at school because i just didn't fit it.
The internalised misogyny 💀
The truth
Maragaret Thatcher in the Crown...the original 'I'm not like other girls'.
But was she wrong?
@@jshepard152 definitely. Well, look at how she did
Only Thatcher could put the Queen in her place by reciting a poem.
Margaret was fabulous. The best PM besides Churchill.
This is so uncomfortable to watch I love it
Amazing music choice for this 🤣
Erin Doherty is playing Princess Anne. Currently in Chloe on the BBC and she is an amazing find.
The crown is so different with the background music
This is so on the f*ing point!
I think many can relate to her when she is in a social gathering. Literally want to run away,
That's me straight up!!! I HATE absolutely HATE going to social anythings. Would rather just stay home, relaxing, watching anything on TV.
00:05 she’s like I beg ur pardon are u trying to imitate my voice?
Nintendo Wii theme is really a perfect fit for this video.
"No no no...NO"
Still don’t understand how a woman PM think women are too emotional
I think she thought herself a "not like other girls" type
@@jenniferh4166 Because she wasn't like them.
She had mummy issues really bad she loved her father and hated her mother for being a housewife.She has a history of being negative towards women in real life.
All woman who have made it to the top in a cut throat business have no time for womans nonsense
@@ljllob4740don't forget that in this show, she favored her son over her daughter & even admitted it to her. I'm surprised the daughter just didn't leave & cut ties with the mom, at least. Not sure how she felt about her dad.
I despise the real Margaret Thatcher, but it is very entertaining to watch Gillian Anderson play her in The Crown
Probably because Anderson played her as detestable.
Thatcher was the bomb wo her England would be less powerful than Luxembourg
2:22 lmao!
please make more lmao
The Wii channel music has me WEAKKKK 🤣🤣🤣🤣☠️
The 'Bye bitch' sent me! 💀💀💀😂😂
I had sympathies for the royal family after Harry and Meghan fiasco but after watching this, I think the royal family absolutely deserves Harry and Meghan.
Thatcher: Perhaps next time we could play Russia Roulette, only this time all the chambers shall be loaded that way everybody wins.
Number 1 ible dibble........
i cant hear a single word over the cheesey meme song
I absolutely wanted Margo to slap Thatcher for sitting in Queen Victorias chair
Funny... I want to see someone slap Margret. She's a jerk.
I'm tired of everyone that plays Thatcher portraying her as an old fool. She was smart and sharp during her term as PM, yet they make her look incompetent. Just awful how they need to ruin her legacy's
Idk if this was true or not but there's a lot to be said of how the monarchy treated Thatcher in the show. They clearly tried to embarrass her because she was from a working class background and didn't understand their world while most prime Ministers come from a background with some peerage. But what's sad is they didn't realize Thatcher could have been their biggest ally as she loved English tradition while Wilson and previous Ministers treated royals as a necessary evil in governance.
Got to love the Iron Lady, even when you hate her
I loved watching her go six feet under
Lmao 😂 I love this
The whole women in high office thing, wasnt she prime Minister?
That’s the irony of the situation. Someone else commented about her internalized misogyny and this pretty much sums it up
@@mickilarry4890 plus she was saying this to the queen.
@@jinxiejae which makes it even funnier. She is the least emotional person out of all of them
"I need a stiff drink..." Proceeds to drink whiskey :)
why are people yass queening margaret thatcher
Like what the actual fuck ?!
Yeah.......mega yikes
Bro that was such an L moment when all the hunger strikers died in prison for being denied unifrom priveleges 🤣
No captions and loud music made the dialog very difficult to hear.
I have Covid and I'm ill. This made me laugh and the comments on the video were hilarious. But it was painful to laugh.
Thatcher and Reagan, when Grown ups ran the world.
Brilliant. Got to love MT too.
I wish that annoying music didn't have to be on every single "so and so being something with something for some number of minutes straight" videos.
Phil I respect you for the fact that you are speaking what MILLIONS of us are thinking. Please give me a business email, I have some friends who agree wholeheartedly that the Wii Music is a fucking plague.
Love your funny captions. But, you flash them on the screen so fast that one has to hit pause just to read them !!
1:17 I felt that...
🥲😂
These edits are so good!!!!
relatable thatcher moments XD
The Queen Mother got those dibble-ibbles on purpose. She loved a few bevvies.
Her personality reminds me of my late mother
The Crown made me hate Thatcher more than I did when she was actual Prime Minister in real life.
oh, that's interesting. how so?
Otis's mom you say
I do admire her strength in her convictions. But ultimately it was her obstinacy and unwillingness to compromise that brought her down. She's comfortable with having enemies, yes, even if it's her own cabinet ministers. But she overestimated their loyalty and how far they're willing to go with her radical right wing agenda.
I like this comment but I don't think she was 'radically' right wing at all.
no no no no *no*
Genius ! hahahahahaha Gillian was outstanding, I love/hate her well !!!!
Dying 😅😂
4 minutes and 13 SECONDS
The pathetic, obvious captions add absolutely nothing.
It is nice but Merill Streep will be forever my favorite Thatcher. It cannot be helped. So help me God.
She was Maggie to a 'T'.
Neither one of them was, to put it mildly, particularly good in this role, although Merely Streep undoubtedly did a better job because at least she was able to convey late PM’s vigor, with her being exceptionally determined, educated and energetic woman, bulldozing through extremely male-dominated environment. On the other hand there was more Margaret Thatcher in Streep’s performance than there was in the real life Iron Lady, which was more of a caricature than acting at that point, a first class impersonation, she just took it too far. Gillian did the opposite thing. I was so excited to hear she was going to play this character, she’s been one of my favorite public figures for years, I think she’s incredibly talented and beautiful, and I really did my best to love her in the role of MT, but… she took office at 54, stepping down at 65, not exactly what one would call old age, and Gillian came onboard when she was barely 50, but somehow managed to look like a frail old lady recovering from a massive stroke throughout the season. And she did have a distinctive voice, high pitched with a hint of raspy, but did not sound anything like someone dying from laryngeal cancer as Anderson did in her role, she was actually quite well spoken, and I regret to say it, but the way she was brought to life in this performance was just a mess and a total flop.
@@Neurosis_Cordis eloquently put. i like gillian but i think a lot of people calling this performance accurate haven't watched any footage of the actual thatcher.
The music is so annoying
God bless Thatcher!
hahahaha!!!!
It’s so weird seeing all of these people here talking about how relatable M. Thatcher was. She was a piece of sh*t. And Gillian Anderson portrayed that beautifully.
It's not weird at all, it's their opinion and you're entitles to yours, no matter how dumb it is.
@@DarkAngel459 Lol It's weird because Margaret Thatcher was an elitist g@rbage person who couldn't stand working class people. So... not really relatable unless you're also an elitist bigot.
But yes, anyone who doesn't get that is entitled to that opinion, regardless of how dumb they are.
@@DarkAngel459 Well, it IS weird, buddy. Because M Thatcher was notoriously a sack of sh1t. Just a d3spicable person.
Sometimes... Lol "Dark Angel," people's opinions are demonstrably wrong. They are entitled to those opinions, deep thinker. That doesn't make them immune from having it pointed out how wrong those opinions are.
And if you'd like to talk about whether or not M Thatcher was a huge POS based on the evidence, I'm happy to do that.
Could someone care to explain what Maggie got wrong at dibble ibbles?
Other than tempo nothing.
When I watched the actual clip of this particular scene here on UA-cam, someone said that they believe that Thatcher didn't want to have her guard brought down so she made sure to not get it wrong which then made the game not fun for the royals. They basically wanted her to get stripped mentally to see the real her or something like that.
These are cute but the commentary on screen is so unnecessary.
No way...is this real? Royalty dibble dibble life????? Joder!!!!!
Maguy My Life 🧡
Love this.
It’s actually 4:13
This is sarcasm
I’m anti Thatcher. Severely anti thatcher as I’m a firm believer in abolishing the royal family, an independent Scotland, I live in Glasgow and my great grandfather worked as a ship builder when she essentially put them all out of work and stopped children’s free milk at school. She’s an evil cow of a woman. Or was. However….I love this series and I love the fictional representation of the old steel bat. That’s when you know a show’s got it right.
Bet you love the EU though, and mass immigration.
Passive - aggressive, Karen.
This whole show really is a massive fuck you to the Royal Family.
Thanks for the annoying plinky music over the top and even more annoying (and inaccurate) captions. I wouldn't have enjoyed it otherwise. 🙄
Eto ti Margaret! Kome si državu sačuvala.
One of the most evil women in history played exceptionally well by Gillian Anderson.
How many persons did she kill ?
Socialists are pathethic beings
girlboss diva icon boots
Absolutely.
The producers
/writers of this show just did a character assassination on the greatest prime minister we ever had.
I mean she set back gay rights for many years and destroyed communities but sure
@@deathbecomeshim5262 that's not true either. Do some research
@@oiooi6460 I mean that’s just a fact. Section 28? Ever heard of it?
@@deathbecomeshim5262 Yawn
@@oiooi6460 exactly. Nothing to say. She was clearly not an amazing prime minister. She was extremely bigoted.
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what was the point of the idiotic music?
Oh please have you never seen these sort of videos?
@@ladymcgonagall what was the point of your idiotic response?
It's a part of the format mate, I assume you haven't seen too many of these types of videos.
@@bobbest1611 what was the point of your idiotic conception?
Instead of Wii they should just call it Piss Music
Ding dong the witch is dead
honk if thatcher's deed
That's ok. The rest of th UK was done with her for 11 years.
They voted for her 3 times and deservedly so, maron.
Honk if Thatcher’s deid.
I never liked MT
She doesn't care.
the royal family did her dirty at the balmolar, everybody were so ruuuuude except for the queen