Thatcher Begs The Queen For Help | The Crown (Gillian Anderson, Olivia Colman)
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- Опубліковано 29 гру 2024
- Thatcher (Gillian Anderson) gets unusually emotional as she pleads with Queen Elizabeth (Olivia Colman) to help her keep her job.
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I'm old enough to remember Margaret Thatcher. I thought there was no way any other actress could have come close to Meryl Streeps portrayal, but my hat's off to Gillian Anderson
Agreed. I grew up as a kid and teenager with a very voluble Mrs T appearing almost daily on the evening news. Meryl Streep's interpretation was much more convincing than Gillian Anderson's. Meryl got much closer to the real Thatcher persona. Meryl's Thatcher had some real pathos. In the opening scene of the film we meet Mrs T as a frail and somewhat confused lady showing the first signs of dementia and very obviously missing her deceased husband. We see how every mighty leader falls in the end and are invited to feel pity and compassion for a figure that evoked very little pity or compassion when she was at the height of her power.
Anderson's portrayal was funnier, and had some genuine cringe moments, like when Thatcher and her husband spent their first official visit to Balmoral with the Queen and her family and made a complete hash of everything because they didn't know the informal rules and social etiquette that governed behaviour. And I learned what the ibble dibble drinking game was.
Yes, Gillian Anderson did a good job. However, the director's portrayal of Mrs T is too sombre. Lady Thatcher had sense of humour and also inspired credible authority.
@@flixkat exactly. There's a reason why Vlad gave her the nickname The Iron Lady for.
Andrea Riseborough?
@@AzguardMikeRusts easily?
"Technically, it is within your power to "request" this...." I howled!!! 😅
Why? That wasn't a funny line
It is funny if you know what her Majesty actually stated. Or rather what she was pointing out. “Request” has an implication.
@@jarradjones2235 not necessarily funny, but using "request" implies to Thatcher that actually, she doesn't have the power to dissolve parliament like what she thinks. She can only ask The Queen to do so, and The Queen can say no.
@@jarradjones2235 It was quite amusing.
@@jarradjones2235 it was definitely funny, after Thatcher spent so long trying to boss her around.
Throughout the Crown series I must say that my absolute favourite episodes were the ones with Margaret Thatcher. They were so riveting. Gillian Anderson gave an outstanding performance!!
John Lithgow as Churchill was unbelievably stunning - perfection in every way.
oh yes! compare this to Meryl Streep! Gillian nailed it totally.
This season was by far the best TV. Princess Di, Margaret Thatcher, both portrayed perfectly
Olivia Coleman's delivery is a good lesson on leadership. The use of power and the ability to restrain oneself from using it are lessons that can only be learned over time.
It shows the difference between a monarch and a prime minister. The minister knows theyre always behind the clock to the point they visibly age faster than other politicians lol. They are obsessed with time at the helm because of how little time they have to shape things as they want. The queen has the complete opposite problem. She has her entire lifetime to influence the nation but also zero actual power and a mandate to stay quiet. Leadership means very different things to both the queen and the PM
Olivia Coleman's delivery of the lines starting at 2:11 is so good
2 fantastic actresses playing to of the most fascinating women of the 20th and 21st centuries.
Wrong !
@ПръчкоПръчлев
неправильно в чем? Хоть объяснись. Не те актрисы? неправильные очаровательные женщины 20-20 века.....что по-вашему не так????
или, может быть, вам просто нравится выражать несогласие как рефлекторную реакцию, не имея возможности предложить какие-либо разумные аргументы?
Если у вас не хватает мозгов сделать заявление, подтверждающее ваш короткий и не относящийся к делу комментарий, тогда заткнитесь.
wrong in what way? At least explain yourself. Wrong actresses? wrong fascinating women of the 20th to the 20th century.....what do you think is wrong????
or maybe you just like disagreeing as a knee jerk reaction without being able to offer any intelligent argument?
If you don't have the brains to make a statement backing up your short and irrelevant comment, then do shut up.
"two"
Thatcher was impressive politically. I think most fascinating woman was Ayn Rand. But there have been many fascinating women.
Historically I think one of the most impressive women was Elizabeth 1.
@@Avidcomp Ayn is complex. Feminists both love and despise her
@@maestroclassico5801 Of course they do, and she didn't think much of them. Further than that she revealed the awfulness of altruism, and seeing as altruism has been held up as the goal of morality more broadly, it would explain why so many people can't stand her. But they are wrong and she was right. Explain? Well altruism and benevolence are often linked, but they are very different. Rand was agreeable to benevolence. Society has yet to catch up. To that extent, the dominant morality of society has blood on its hands. Ms Rand does not.
Remember when the Queen asked Thatcher to help her sanction the Apartheid and Thatcher was all "you have no power here, Gandalf the Grey". And in this scene it's the Queen's turn to reveal she's now "Gandalf the White" and let Thatcher get thrown out of Theoden, I mean, the government.
I've only just started watching this and I'm now an addict....Anderson doing Thatcher is awesome,the best ever,it's so good you actually forget you're watching acting and think you're eaves dropping
Gillian was stellar in this role.
That's when you can tell someone has been in power for too long😌
Every so-called "democratically elected" leader since the start of the 1900s, save perhaps one,
“to have it stolen from me so cruelly” babes it’s an election not a coup
It's a tv script. It's not dictation to an historian.
Wrong. She was referring to how Major and others stabbed her in the back because she was so against the EU project and they were so for it. She won every election she fought with increasing majorities but was removed WITHOUT an election.
It wasn't - it wasn't time for a general election yet. And she won the first round of the confidence vote. Technically, she had never lost.
It wasn't election..
it actually was a coup. a very British coup!
"When the power of love overcomes the love of power the world will know peace" Jimi Hendrix
Two powerful women of History in one frame.
They were truly inspirational women. Sadly, these days, we always have to apologise for the occasional bad compared to the overall goodness of a person.
'When we destroy all our heroes, then who will worship'
@@EnochsDream Thatcher didn't have an ounce of goodness in her rotten soul. She's only a hero to those who worship cruelty and greed
I really wish this conversation had taken place. I'm old enough to remember Maggie and Gillian Anderson was channeling ol' Maggie that for sure. I don't anyone could have done it better.
You should not have introduced the Poll Tax, Mags.
She’s not reading the comments.
@@MondoMiamiCoz she's dead.
@@deafshark9932 Honk honk!
@@deafshark9932Even if she wasn't, dementia washed her pride, racism, and disgusting politics away. In the end, she was a doddering shell.
@@deafshark9932 we all be will die one day, its not a flex
They both nailed these parts brilliant
Margaret Thatcher (Gillian Anderson): "There's no dignity in the wilderness...". So powerfully yet silently brought. As if one realise that the peak has been reach, and from now on its only going down until death.
Edit: thanks for the likes guys. I always feel like this sentence is somehow personally addressed to me. I wish you all a long-lasting prosperity; may you never reach the abyss of life.
With rocket man playing in the background hahaha
Settle down its only 44.
I am in the abyss. I am a strong woman though. x
@@Sarah_270Take care of yourself and godspeed. Hopefully, the darkness of the abyss will be quickly replaced by the brightness of happiness.
Power is nothing without authority. Thatcher had to go. Politicians so hate to leave that power.
Yes and that is the inherent danger of power itself. Getting a taste can be like an addiction for some people and they cling fanatically to it even at the detriment to their own country and people. This is how ruthless dictators go down the rabbit hole when perhaps they had all the good intentions in the beginning. Thatcher's intentions were not clear to me then since I was a child in another country watching with a child's understanding but it seems to me she cracked the whip a bit too hard in her determination that the UK should become a global force and the horses broke loose, throwing her out of the carriage and trampling her when she refused to let go of the reins.
thats the sad part, that the idea of losing an election means they are nothing and have lost it all. Its really is the crux of all of those lifelong politicians after a while, even if they started with the best intentions.
Trouble with democracy is that there is no authority.
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She would have been brilliant now. Not the shameful wimp like Starmer
Help? She should pick herself by her bootstraps
That's what conservatives keep telling us little people..
LOL always a blindingly self exposing thing to claim those less fortunate need to just magically make themselves less fortunate.
Amazing that folks who are doing well can’t be happy with their lives. Nah, gotta shit on the poor for some reason.
@@stephengreen-dowden9068 stop being so little
SHE DID - WHATS YOUR EXCUSE LOSER ?
@@rstefan250 The capitalist fears the day the "little" people no longer believe the lie that they are little and the capitalist is "big"
Queen’s reaction of “Wot??!” was amazing
If she hadn't introduced the Poll Tax, she would have remained in power.
@AndrewMSmith130........What an utterly horrific thought
@@thesoultwins72 I am not disagreeing with you. In your own words, can you explain why?
Considering we've had major,Blair,brown,truss,sunak and starmer,the rot set in after the removed thatcher. You may not have liked her,but she did what she thought was right and she did what she said. Last honest pm.
@@Trebor74 That's bonkers reasoning to want someone to be PM.
And her war with the miners
This performance is so good that every viewer is discussing politics instead of the clip! Bravo to both. BTW I don't recall seeing Thatcher shed a tear, not before she peeked from her car leaving No 10.
I was at University - we partied for 3 days.
Eh, she did damage, but so much of the criticism comes from lefty tossers who's idealism clouds their judgement and if they were to rule, as they have and are now, does even more bloody damamge.
Cool bro
@@Copperfeel808bro? dude is probably a hundred years old by now
Great series....well written and well acted. This video is an outstanding example of that.
There are too many people like Thatcher in the realm of politics. People for whom the "job" is their passion, as she says. But in order to be worthy of the job, the people you serve should be your passion, not the job itself. And Thatcher had nothing but disdain and contempt for ordinary people. We need politicians who actually LIKE to be around the people they serve, who want to know them and be with them both in and out of office. You can't be a true leader when you think you're inherently better than the people you're tasked to lead. True leadership comes from bottom up, not the top down.
What you really mean is we should have politicians who promise to spend massive amounts of money on things that make people happy
@@lewis123417 Agree. Glad-handling people-pleasing politicians are in fact what we have too many of. And the Western democracies have enormous deficits and disillusioned voters to show for it.
@@lewis123417”what you really mean is “ [insert something else that I have twisted your words to]”
@thehumblechannel3441 nope that's literally the result of the above way of thinking
During Thatcher’s time, German chancellor Helmut Schmidt was in office and they didn’t like each other. In my opinion what the UK and USA are struggling today with is rooted in the Thatcher/Reagan era.
I think people don't really recognize the significance in the alleged implication here, that Thatcher asked the Queen to dissolve parliament to save her position as Prime Minister.
I got it and thought the way the Queen told her was very riveting. Not may democracies fully realize this, like Trump asking congress and his vice president to overturn and election he did not win at that time
@@joanesp100 well actually it was stolen from him as has always been obvious but now that we have data from the 2024 election clearly we are able to speak this again.
Right you do realise this is wholly fictitious? @@joanesp100
Not surprising, Thatcher was a Fascist at heart.
@user4j0xo5-qi6qd yawn
For a woman who came from the middle class, the working class, she had no empathy at all for the people she was leading. Like most politicians, she was caught up in the ego of power.
She turned around their dismal economy, she helped end the cold war and stopped aggression in the Falklands.
@@michaelplunkett8059 She presided over three recessions, destroyed Britains heavy industry, decimated the UK's social housing to the extent that now we have a chronic housing shortage and an even more chronic social housing shortage, closed the majority of our mental hospitals whcih has resulted in the deaths of many, many people, and practically invited the Argentine junta of Galtieri to invade the Falklands by withdrawing our south Atlantic task force just as they got into power. Rather than stopping aggression in the Falklands her government's incompetence invited it.
In this case, Lord Carrington had the sense of honour to realize what the government had done, and resigned. She had no such sense of honour, or decency.
As for the cold war, Both Reagan and Thatcher misplayed Russia. Russia did not need to collapse, but rather should have been allowed to reform slowly over 20 years. But that wasn't good enough for Reagan and Thatcher. They are partly responsible for the collapse of the Russian economy which followed the break-up of the USSR, because they worked hard to force that economic collapse, and their successors refused to help the Russians turn the corner with the economic aid they needed. As a result Russia promptly turned its back on democracy and we now have another despotic regime to deal with. Stupid stupid stupid.
I had to live through the Thatcher years. They were grim unless you were rich. Not every malaise currently afflicting the UK can be laid at her door, But a remarkable number find their root in her policies and her legacy. Which is why no monument to her memory will ever be safe. There is too much visceral hatred for her across the country, even now.
@hakanozaslan9571agree w everything but the Falklands, w/o intervention I doubt Argentina would’ve been willing to negotiate for anything; you can’t argue with a cult of personality
You're Wrong, Thatcher pulled Britain out of poverty and put it back in the international arena as the Power house it once was; she was a visionary who knew and fervently opposed what was to become of today's European Union, and the power it would snatch from member states such the U.K. and its terrible consequences. Remember why Brexit came about? You're either blind or a complete fool.
@@michaelplunkett8059 She partly caused the aggression in the Falklands. Her government withdrew our south Atlantic task force just after the military junta took over in Argentina, who were making vocal threats about the Falklands in the process, and after the task force withdrew did the Argentines invade. Had the task force remained there the Argentines would never have dared make the attempt.
Lord Carrington knew this was on the government, and resigned his position immediately. He at least had a sense of honour and did the honourable thing. Thatcher did not.
Thatcher oversaw three recessions. Three. It was boom and bust. She destroyed the UK's heavy industry and threw large swathes of the country into long-term economic decline.
The cold war was ending anyway. The USSR was on its last legs with the death of Brezhnev, but Thatcher and Reagan pushed so hard that the transition to democracy was an economic nightmare, and as a result democracy was snuffed out. Had it not been for Thatcher/Reagan Gorbachev might have managed to stay in charge, and the Russians wouldn't have turned to the monster that is Putin.
❤ the observation " so that's a no?" Lol😂
cherry on top
So that's a "No" then ? 😅
'“Do you know that one of the great problems of our age is that we are governed by people who care more about feelings than they do about thoughts and ideas.”
Oh she was great....
The voices are quite authentic sounding
"There is no dignity in the wilderness." There are a lot of politicians like her who desperately need the spotlight. They miss the truth that you carry dignity (as much as you have) wherever you go.
Let her critics howl... look at the garbage running the country now.
There may be no dignity but there is Golf.
Never watched this but Gillian was very good
“…this job is my only passion…”
Top 10 anime villains deaths.
1:51 I was waiting for her to shout avada kedavra!
How old are you, 8?
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I never comment on UA-cam but this has taken me out. Oh God you're so funny😭💀💀💀
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Near the end of the clip, the ticking of the clock becomes more noticeable--a masterful symbol that time is moving on past Thatcher's administration.
As a leader, when "everyone" is against you, perhaps you should consider the possibility that you're wrong. You might not be, but if anything like this scene actually happened, it is obvious that Thatcher did not seriously consider that possibility. Clearly, her pride had gotten the best of her. What Thatcher is proposing to do by dissolving Parliament is nothing less than turning the office of the Prime Minister into that of a dictator, and it is the Queen who points out that just because you have a power, does not mean that you should use it.
"... to have it taken from me... stolen from me so cruelly..." I personally find this sort of mindset in an elected politician to be appalling. Thatcher here seems to have lost sight of the fact that being Prime Minister is NOT a Right. She has apparently come to the thinking that the office 'belongs' to her, but in this, she is quite wrong. It was time for her to go.
I know a genocidal reality television star who feels similar 4 years ago to now. At most, Britain has a parliament.
Conservatives in particular struggle to see themselves accurately.
@@JasonGabler The Brexit referendum is a prime example of that. The Tories on the leave campaign barely supported or considered what it mean to actually leave the EU. Their only concern was showing up in the history books alongside their ancestors (I suggest reading the book "Chums" by Simon Kuper)
I may be mistaken, but I'm pretty sure "dissolve Parliament" is merely the first step in calling a general election (which, as the Queen points out, Thatcher would have lost). If she wanted to continue governing without Parliament, that would be (most reasonably phrased as) a prorogation, not a dissolution. But a prorogation (of more than a few weeks at most) would be even more improper than a dissolution, and it is plausible that her cabinet could have responded by resigning en masse.
@@JasonGabler HAHAHA as if Modern Democrats are anything other than sanctimonious demons.
Every clip of this show I've seen is so good. I've got to watch it.
I can easily imagine a scene like this actually happened between the queen and Thatcher.
You know Lizzie was waiting to put Maggie in her place after the whole situation with South Africa.
History has taught me to loathe Thatcher and reinforced my loyalty to the crown. Marvelous performance Olivia Colman.
3:37 . But the job is never finished. Society evolves around us whether we like it or not.
It would be fascinating to know how this actually played out in reality.
Unless one of them made notes of the discussion later, we will never know.
It may be in EIIR’s diary. But we will never live long enough to read them
I doubt this reflected reality. She could threaten her party's MPs with a general election, but actually having one wouldn't really do her any good.
SHE GAVE HER THE AWARD THAT WAS WITHIN THE SOVERIGNS RIGHT EXCLUSIVLY TO GIVE - SAYS QUITE A BIT IF YOUY ASK ME
Thatcher did not ask, or go anywhere near asking, for a dissolution of Parliament in 1990.
"other passions" damn. Queen gave the same speech to her own sister as she did to the prime minister.
“… to exercise a power simply because … without authority…”
Fantastic performance. I've watched it multiple times, and I always end up teary-eyed. Gillian Anderson's best work, and the best portrayal of Margaret Thatcher I've ever watched (even better than Meryl's), in my humble opinion.
Funny, Nixon said the same thing, reasoning that he shouldn't be forced out cause....national security ect.
At first glance I thought the Queen was wearing pearls with her pajamas.
"power is nothing without authority." Power implies authority.
I think you missed the point of that. Power is like capital and authority like the ability to generate capital. once you lose the ability to generate capital your existing capital erodes to nothing.
Power requires authority, which is backed by legitimacy. In a democracy that authority and legitimacy are embodied in a cabinet, in a legislature and in elections (and apparently also the monarch in the UK). If those institutions don’t back you, then you have hollow power that will not be followed. People will rebel.
Even in all dictatorships power needs the backing of authority and legitimacy. In those regimes it’s the army and a good chunk of the wealthy elite that impart that authority and legitimacy on the dictator’s power. If you don’t have those constituencies on your side as a dictator, you will soon be killed and/or deposed.
If you command people to stop criticising you, and they listen, you have authority over them, and so you have power. If you command people to stop criticising you, and they don't listen, you have no authority over them, and so you have no power.
She is equal to Meryl Streep …Gillian is a superb actor ❤
I've thought that since she first set foot on the X-Files set. And then to see her in The House of Mirth. And Streetcar. And now, The Crown.
Far better. And not unfair for some political bias like Streep was.
I'm so glad I saw this clip I had no idea Anderson was in this. Ms Anderson is a national treasure.
She's American !!
@@jacquelinepaul9731 Yes, AND SO AM I, SILLY PERSON!!!!!
Britain isn't the only hunk of real estate that is a sovereign nation, though you might like to think so (or believe that you still have your exploitative merchantalist empire).
Your ass belongs to a dying nation - P. Townshend, Quadrophenia
“one of those sturdy old plants left over from the Edwardian Wilderness that can't understand why the sun isn't shining anymore.” - J. Osborne, Look Back In Anger
@@jacquelinepaul9731 She's British
Thatcher was such a hypocrite. She didn't care about anybody else losing their job, but when it came to her own, well losing it would simply be unacceptable.
Doing nothing is the hardest thing to do.
GA is simply incredible as Mrs.T.
Most political careers end in disaster -- Golda Meir
One of the greatest leaders in world history. A remarkable woman.
Brilliant acting!
If Chewbacca spoke in a human voice...
It is unlikely that this ever happened, but it does explain what the real job of the Monarch is in the UK. If the Queen had dissolved parliament then Margaret Thatcher could have dismissed all the members of her government who wanted her to resign as Prime minister and appointed yes men in their place and continued to govern as a dictator, which would have been impossible if parliament was sitting. It is an absolute paradox but the fact is that the Monarch is the guarantor of what passes for democracy in the UK. It is the job of the Monarch to ensure only two things. First, that the government has the support of the majority of MPs and second, that there is a general election every five years. All the rest of it, the opening of hospitals and bridges, the ceremonies, the guards in their silly uniforms marching about, the honours system, doesn't matter much, if at all. Of course, we Brits love all the flummery, but in reality, it doesn't matter one jot or tittle. This is why we have a Monarch and this is why we don't have coups or lowlife like Donald Trump trying to overturn the result of elections.
"This is why we have a monarch"
You dumb peasent.
And what if the Queen had dissolved parliament? What then? How do you know she wouldn't? Because you just trust her and the monarchy. But where are the institutional safeguards to stop something like that from happening?
@@Ilikelink institutional safeguard is the monarchy as head of state and without it any prime minister as head of government would do it as they see necessary. The US doesnt have this separation between head of state and head of government but relies that the legislature and judiciary will be the sole checks and balances.
Still hilarious to have watched the US legislature play hot potato about Jan 6th with the judiciary then nothing happens and the man himself is back in.
@@windy1762 Most democratic countries have a head of state that acts as a counterpart to the head of government, just that in most countries it's not an unelected monarch. Italy has a president elected by parliament to act as counterpart to the prime minister.
Fabulous women!!!
more like she was begging to stay in power because everybody turned against her. Thatcher did that to herself.
She didn't have the high ground.
@@brucesim2003 Again, her own doing. That pesky Cabinet!
@@brucesim2003 She didn't
Magistral.
It is very telling that this character used the word "stole".. It screams of entitlement and ownership.
Why couldn't the former queen remember how to say no when Boris Johnson asked for an illegal prorogation
Probably because she was too weak and feeble by that point to say no.
How the tables turned. One or two episodes previous Elizabeth asked Margaret for support on sanctions and Margaret flat out denies her. Now it's Margaret's turn to be flat out denied. H well. C'est la vie
The Queen knew the job was already done, madame Thatcher
she wouldn't waste her power on you...
I never had much time for Elizabeth Windsor but one of her greatest achievements was to see through Margaret Thatcher instantly. Actual comment by Liz to a courtier: "There's room for only one queen in this country - and it isn't Margaret Thatcher".
I remember when Maragaret Thatcher came into power what a sad day for the ordinary English people. Gillian is magnificent!
Yeah, you’re doing so much better now. Are you wearing your stab vest?
You do remember the state of the country when she gained office?
I highly doubt that Thatcher asked the Queen to dissolve Parliament in 1990, although she did always believe that the Tories made a mistake in getting rid of her when they did.
I can identify with those. They have the care of two mothers. They have invested whole life in their making own duty and then there is no one to talk to. Nothing to negotiate about. It hurts and burns the heart. The queen is used to be humble and most modest. I am sure, once told her in life, you are never being here the last word. Only the first.
I can't see how this scene could ever have taken place at all... Thatcher admitting that quenching her need for politics justified suggesting a coup; especially to the person to whom she has, from all accounts, been, at times not that silently, antagonistic throughout her time in power...
It didn't. It's propaganda
Thank Odin she never got to finish.
Thatcher does sound abit like Voldermort, and waiting for her to say Avada
Kedevra. Then they start dueling. 😂😂😂
Her hair looks like my morning hair.
We need a stonger leader now.
thatcher was a heartless, narcissistic monster, and this brilliant performance makes that perfectly clear.
She had a bizarre affected way of speaking and enunciating much like her contemporary and pal Jimmy Saville. Incredible job by Gillian Andersen in nailing that accent
What a weird comment. She spoke in a strange approximation of 1950s RP. Saville had a distinct Yorkshire accent.
Sometimes nothing is a pretty cool hand.
Holy helmet hair!
God grant to those in power, the power of restraint. In the corporate world people give orders all the time that are entirely divorced from reality, but they have to be humored because of their authority.
Chewing the scenery like it’s a rawhide bone. Pure excessive wonderfulness.
Boris's Mom 😂😂
No, authority is nothing without power.
thatcher comes across as rather pathological here - but it is a very striking scene between two very powerful women that makes a great point about gender and power
Its a shame Lizzie didn't have this backbone when Boris came calling ............................
She was mortally ill.
Maggie sounds like a female Voldemort
I just don't understand why and how she got the name "Iron Lady" or "Iron Woman" she should have been called "Big Fat Ego Woman"
On yer bike Margret
Brava!!!!!
"Your highness, it is within your power to help fund paramilitary death squads in Northern Ireland." What a powerful woman, truly the prime ministers of all time.
Funny how people like more the leaders they don't choose.
The Russians called her the Iron Lady for a reason!
Dissolving Parliament? AYFKM?
Falklands was about Royal Dutch Shell
Won’t you post any video for Diana & Charles in s5 ?
As good as Gillian Anderson is, Patricia Hodge was the best at portraying Thatcher in The Falklands Play.
She dissolved parliament in Australia. Why is the queen so surprised/reluctant to do it here?
Did she end the speech with 'Can I get a duvet?'
I don't believe Thatcher was ever this weak and self-pitying. She didn't acquire the nickname Iron Lady by getting weepy and desperate.
All Iron Ladies have pride and she was no exception. She was not ready to leave; people like her leave on their own terms.
Especially not in front of the Queen, who was not a big fan of hers - it rings completely false, like so much in this series.
But she did get weepy. You can see it when she's leaving Downing Street for the last time and also during the ITN (?) interview
Thatcher was a bully, and all bullies get emotional when they are confronted and forced to stop.
She was seen crying as she left downing street, and my mother an ardent Thatcherite has a similar disposition in that she is brittle. Thatcher was deeply hurt by the rebellion against her, her sympathizers characterized it as traitorous and vindictive. Either way, there is no way to validate this scene, but Thatcher was broken to some degree by her removal.
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