Mike your video help me a lot.I watch all your videos and I buy 4 Orion XPM 10” .And I have the Down4sound 6.5 in the doors and them is so load .I have the Orion on a soundigital 4k and the 4 Down4sound 6.5 on a 1200k and I am killing everyone on the beach .
From the videos audio the d4s speaker sounded way cleaner while the ds18 sounded almost like something was touching the cone on certain notes. Idk what do you think?
Have you installed them? For the price I'm thinking of stuffing them in the doors of my 2012 Fiesta. I mean, what else is a better choice for $29? 🤷🏻♂️
@@isidrosevier1125 i have the skar audio 150.4 and am not shure on what to get. Either these or the sky high audio shel 6.5 or the prv 6mr-400 bullet lastly would be ct sound meso 6.5
Can you do a sound comparison of the 6.5 pro zxi6.4bm vs the 8” pro zxibm 8 ohm debating to add the 8s to my setup or more 6.5 I have these black tip zxi6.4bm
Are they not mounted? Because on this end I can hear them vibrating against the mounting plate meaning that one will sound worse or better than the other on variables such as total weight, snugness in the mounting hole, cone weight, so on so forth. To give any speaker a fair shake it has to be mounted, sorry but absolutely a must. When I hear distortion due to vibration on this end I know there's no way you can make a fair assessment being there because you will associate the vibration with poor sound quality, anyone would
D4S does good in your vids. I know because of my headlights can’t tell a clear diff in bass. They all sound about the same. But the D4S always sound clearer.
thanks for the reviews mike, of all the 6.5" mid abss drivers you have reviewed, which do you recommend the most for mid to high volume with very clean clarity ? - many thanks
Like you've said several times in different ways, these pro audio style drivers are super efficient, lot of loudness from even a factory head unit, I'm definitely grabbing some after some more watching I've been on the fence as I don't want to have to mod the car to accommodate the massive magnets lol but damn they crank going to have to buy a couple of sets just see how I go getting them in the Mazda 3 😂
I think i better switch to one of these speakers. Like your videos. I think your setup is good enough to tell which speaker plays better and which does not. Sadly most of the speakers i can buy in the UK but i can order DS18. Just not sure which ones. Should I buy the most expensive or cheaper ones are also good? There are so many different DS18 any suggestions? Then also there are 4ohm or 8ohm. Which one is better, which one will sound better?
D4S is killing the game right now I can’t wait until he comes out with some subs I really like those new hexi cone speakers but they don’t come in 10s I need 10s🤣😂😭
So good testing but i believe more testing is needed such as how good the parts are and compared. How about better detail in what they are sitting in like a small enclosure or free air try both. Putting them side by side is ok but it dosent tell you everything. What amp is being used. So much is needed to say testing or comparing. Please think about how real scientists conduct testing and how procedures are done. Dont buy this speaker isnt very good. I respect your opinion its your channel and ive been a subscriber for a while. Definitely like the head to head but more info is needed to say dont buy
And thats all it is. Just opion and suggestions and in the end its your choice. Definitely love the videos. Got the pioneer m6.5 pro i believe based on your comparison. Great speakers by the way right on point with sound quality from an affordable speaker
Hey guy's, when you all buy ANYTHING D4S you KNOW EXACTLY what you are getting when you buy it!! IT'S AWESOME because he stands by ALL OF HID PRODUCTS!!! JP DOESN'T hide ANYTHING!!! ALL OF HIS PRODUCTS ARE AWESOME!!!
I think you give great info but I do find it difficult to follow your videos... when the camera is facing you its tough to keep track of which speaker youre talking about when youre just pointing at them and saying "this guy"... itd be a lot easier if you just said ds18 or d4s
Cool, but I just put a pair of PRV 6MR20A-4 and they sound great. Def. better than Faital Pro. I am running full to them, hit bass like hell. These both sound good. D4S is really nice, and the DS18 seems to have better mids. thumping bass.
I have the deaf bonce ap-m67an there loud as hell but honestly i dont like them they sound way to tinny cant play under 200hz they just dont sound natural im lookin for a 6.5 that can take the power 200 plus rms and play the midbass 80-100hz area and above i would love to see how the sundown neo pro 6.5 v3 play
Ds18 all day i want to upgrade to 8s to get louder and im already loud just with 4 6.5 just wanna get louder like a chuchero. Got them running on a 2k xtaudio amp
What speakers do you have in your car? I don’t want to buy speakers because of the name! I want to buy speakers for the quality / clarity of the sounds! I would love to upgrade the speakers on my car 6.5 I would love your professional personal opinion
I have 6x9 DS18 + the 6.5 on the front doors. My amp only throws music to the 6x9 and the sound quality is 👌🏻👌🏻 it’s hard to really compare over video recording though lol but I can tell you DS18 throws quality sound even without an amp
Mike will you please do 1 more test, after all of your normal demo/comparision/test's you do? @ the end of your video's, start testing @ Low power, like 50 watts rms per speaker, set the DSP to Full range, and play each test tone, for 3 to 5 second's, measuring the Db, set to peak hold, about 1 ft., to 1 meter, above the middle, exactly between, the two speaker's, starting @ 100Hz, then 90Hz, then 80Hz, 70Hz, 60Hz, 50Hz, and lastly 40Hz! This would REALLY show what one's got dat Bass! ❤ your video's, and i hope you implement this test @ the end of your video's, or better yet, Make a seperate video, comparing all of these speaker's you have already compared, but ✔ing the peak hold Db, @ 50 watts, with the 100Hz, down to 40Hz, with test tone's!? Please, much ❤️
Best sounding system, I ever heard was all Pioneer speakers with their free air subs and running off the old ADS PQ series amps and an alpine head unit. Hands down best and I'm a 35-year car audio installer....
So I've noticed this PLENTY of times in your videos & I've been waiting & waiting & waiting for someone besides me to stop & say something. You are TRYING to conduct TESTS... But in order to do so you kinda have to KNOW what you are doing to get that started let alone done. Don't get me wrong. You know something, but what......I DON'T KNOW. My problem is this. Most people have not been paying attention to your accidental bias. You keep comparing apples & oranges. If you dont know what I mean, I mean that putting a 4ohm speaker against an 8ohm speaker gives one speaker a handicap. Unless your amp is wide impedance ranged, the 8ohm speaker will always be lower because is only getting HALF the power. Which mean less performance. And from the sound that can be heard you can tell that there is a diffrence in their power to performance range. Now you keep mentioning a DSP, that doesn't matter until you you know RTA & various other things that matter in the "testing" that youre trying to do. Dude, not trying to be rude about ANY of this. But the truth is you've only woke up & gotten out of bed...you haven't yet touched the door to the bathroom to brush your teeth as to where sound & sound quality test comes to point or matter. Please use 4ohm & 4ohm...or 8ohm & 8ohm (I'm not picky). But what do I know, I only have several trophies for sound quality in competitions hanging around my place.🤔🤷🏽♂️🫵🏽🍾🥂
Hey bro thank you for watching and for you comment I did special video showing 4ohm vs 8ohm an with ohm resister watch my that vide there is no difference loudness or sound quality so On you have to watch more videos on my channel 🫡
True, lower Ohms equals less resistance, so the amp push more power, I have 4 of the 6" DS18 10th Anniversary and at 8 Ohms you're not going to give the speaker the 250w RMS on a 4 channel amp.
@ChrisAzure That's INCORRECT I DO & HAVE & WILL continue giving the intire 250wrms to mine using my DS18 250wrms×4 amp. It's rated for it so why not use it. The complication is that many people don't know EXACTLY how to use equalizers & when it comes to these particular speakers for instance, the "eq" gets used incorrectly. Flatten the eq, adjust the amp... then flatten that eq curve & readjust the amp again. It's a bit of work, but 100% worth it. No gimmicks. It's the same considerations as a TIME ALIGNMENT. A real time alignment. RTA. 250wrms or bust.
@@armonnykelley1838 I was complementing your comment but if you look at the spec sheets, you'll see at what Ohms you're getting those 250W RMS and I can guarantee you that it won't be at 8 Ohms on a 250w RMS x4. As an example, the DS18 ZXI.4XL can output 250w RMS at 4 Ohms, if your speakers are 4 Ohms then yeah, you're giving them those 250w RMS to your 4 speakers, but if your speaker are 8 Ohms you are not giving them those 250w RMS, to make it more clear, with the mentioned amp if you manage to lower your Ohms load to 2 Ohms then the amp output increase to 400w RMS x4, hopefully that clarifies what I meant, which is basically saying that you're right, comparing a 4 Ohms speaker vs an 8 Ohms speaker is not apples to apples when the goal is to know which are louder because the 4 Ohms speaker will get more power from the amp, unless you are using something like a Marts Digital MXS-4000x4-2 which at 4 Ohms can deliver 800w RMS x4, rest assure that you'll get more than 250w RMS at 8 Ohms. Higher Ohms speaker = Less power from the amp.
You are forgetting the tweeter, these speakers are designed to play the midrange frequency, they are not full range. D4S has way higher frequency, hardly any midbass.
All ypur videos are super informational and well broken down and edited. Keep doing what youre doing its much appreciated.
Ps best bit about your videos is how much fun your having bro, you just love speakers and music and that makes me smile watching you enjoy yourself.
I owned alot of speakers but for the price down 4 sound are some of the best speakers.
Mike your video help me a lot.I watch all your videos and I buy 4 Orion XPM 10” .And I have the Down4sound 6.5 in the doors and them is so load .I have the Orion on a soundigital 4k and the 4 Down4sound 6.5 on a 1200k and I am killing everyone on the beach .
Great reviews man! Will those DS18's still be "very punchy" with 100 watts? How much power are you using in this review?
what's the deference between uscmr and sfx models from down4sounds????
From the videos audio the d4s speaker sounded way cleaner while the ds18 sounded almost like something was touching the cone on certain notes. Idk what do you think?
Hey, can you test the Recoil REM65 6.5" speakers? Those are components, but they also have a coaxial version.
question please : has anyone tried the stevens audio MB6 and MB8 ? iam looking at installing a pair in my front doors .
i would like for you to test D4s vs timpano
I picked up 2 of the d4s on pre-order for $29 each. Great speaker, just not as loud at JPs first set of speakers.
Have you installed them? For the price I'm thinking of stuffing them in the doors of my 2012 Fiesta. I mean, what else is a better choice for $29? 🤷🏻♂️
@@watchandjewelryloft4713 yea they sounded good, just weren't louder than the original JP 6.5s
@@isidrosevier1125did you put them on a amp?
@@rhurtadorh32 yea I had them on a deaf bonce 4 channel. They sound amazing. Just not loud enough for my set up.
@@isidrosevier1125 i have the skar audio 150.4 and am not shure on what to get. Either these or the sky high audio shel 6.5 or the prv 6mr-400 bullet lastly would be ct sound meso 6.5
Also, SD18 speakers come with a dust cap or with a red tweeter if I'm right. What is the difference between them?
Is a red bullet not a tweeter
U should do Sylvester 6.5 vs ds18 pro 64
Can you do a sound comparison of the 6.5 pro zxi6.4bm vs the 8” pro zxibm 8 ohm debating to add the 8s to my setup or more 6.5 I have these black tip zxi6.4bm
What amp do you use for the testing of the 6.5’s ?
Orion 2000 if I remember right
would like to see the d4s vs timpano neodymium and skar vs timpano neodymium
Are they not mounted? Because on this end I can hear them vibrating against the mounting plate meaning that one will sound worse or better than the other on variables such as total weight, snugness in the mounting hole, cone weight, so on so forth. To give any speaker a fair shake it has to be mounted, sorry but absolutely a must. When I hear distortion due to vibration on this end I know there's no way you can make a fair assessment being there because you will associate the vibration with poor sound quality, anyone would
yeah, but what app are you running? How many watts are are you running to the speaker?
Skar and CT Sound advertising is everywhere. Would you recommend the D4Sound speakers over either of them?
Are the down4sound louder than audiocontrol 6.5
D4S does good in your vids. I know because of my headlights can’t tell a clear diff in bass. They all sound about the same. But the D4S always sound clearer.
thanks for the reviews mike, of all the 6.5" mid abss drivers you have reviewed, which do you recommend the most for mid to high volume with very clean clarity ? - many thanks
Can you test Rogue Audio and Concrete Audio.
Make that 2 requests for CONCRETE AUDIO! I've heard a set of HLCDs in my bros ride and they're the cat's pajamas!
What about the orions from 3 years ago? That’s what I just ordered . Are they still king ?
Yeah one of the best )
Which orions?
@dayejahlondguidry5011 hcca n64
Hey what's up Mike can you do a comparison with hertz sv165.1 vs hcca64n vs ds18 pro x6.4bm🙏🏻🙏🏻
Hi Mike, would be noce to hear Taramps speakers. Tia
Thanks you for your channel mike
Like you've said several times in different ways, these pro audio style drivers are super efficient, lot of loudness from even a factory head unit, I'm definitely grabbing some after some more watching I've been on the fence as I don't want to have to mod the car to accommodate the massive magnets lol but damn they crank going to have to buy a couple of sets just see how I go getting them in the Mazda 3 😂
Have you did shca 6.5
I think i better switch to one of these speakers. Like your videos. I think your setup is good enough to tell which speaker plays better and which does not. Sadly most of the speakers i can buy in the UK but i can order DS18. Just not sure which ones. Should I buy the most expensive or cheaper ones are also good? There are so many different DS18 any suggestions? Then also there are 4ohm or 8ohm. Which one is better, which one will sound better?
What the name of the second song
Anyone stuff the D4S's into something like a Mk 6 Ford Fiesta?
You should put an average db reading at the end of each or an active one while it’s playing
D4S is killing the game right now I can’t wait until he comes out with some subs I really like those new hexi cone speakers but they don’t come in 10s I need 10s🤣😂😭
Look into the Toro Audio PM6 6.5” which has a Frequency of 270-10KHz. I would like to hear how they sound
That's not a mid bass tho
So good testing but i believe more testing is needed such as how good the parts are and compared. How about better detail in what they are sitting in like a small enclosure or free air try both. Putting them side by side is ok but it dosent tell you everything. What amp is being used. So much is needed to say testing or comparing. Please think about how real scientists conduct testing and how procedures are done. Dont buy this speaker isnt very good. I respect your opinion its your channel and ive been a subscriber for a while. Definitely like the head to head but more info is needed to say dont buy
Thank you for the tips I'll apply them in future videos I lead a lot from my viewers and love to read comments 🫡
And thats all it is. Just opion and suggestions and in the end its your choice. Definitely love the videos. Got the pioneer m6.5 pro i believe based on your comparison. Great speakers by the way right on point with sound quality from an affordable speaker
I think he should get some doors from the junk yard so we can hear them in a real application.
Also drivers change how they sound a lot in the first few months of use due to the suspensions loosening up as the driver breaks in.
@LIFEINSPEED how many watts are you pushing to these speaker at what ohm load?
Hey guy's, when you all buy ANYTHING D4S you KNOW EXACTLY what you are getting when you buy it!! IT'S AWESOME because he stands by ALL OF HID PRODUCTS!!! JP DOESN'T hide ANYTHING!!! ALL OF HIS PRODUCTS ARE AWESOME!!!
I think you give great info but I do find it difficult to follow your videos... when the camera is facing you its tough to keep track of which speaker youre talking about when youre just pointing at them and saying "this guy"... itd be a lot easier if you just said ds18 or d4s
Agreed, or a light that lights up, or a graphic on the screen to indicate which speaker
Cool, but I just put a pair of PRV 6MR20A-4 and they sound great. Def. better than Faital Pro. I am running full to them, hit bass like hell. These both sound good. D4S is really nice, and the DS18 seems to have better mids. thumping bass.
Audiobank 2X AB-630 do some with Audiobank speaker
@LIFE IN SPEED Mike Angels another great video bro.....D4S sounds great. 🇯🇲
I have the deaf bonce ap-m67an there loud as hell but honestly i dont like them they sound way to tinny cant play under 200hz they just dont sound natural im lookin for a 6.5 that can take the power 200 plus rms and play the midbass 80-100hz area and above i would love to see how the sundown neo pro 6.5 v3 play
Hi for the Mmats pro
Ty
Ds18 all day i want to upgrade to 8s to get louder and im already loud just with 4 6.5 just wanna get louder like a chuchero. Got them running on a 2k xtaudio amp
What speakers do you have in your car?
I don’t want to buy speakers because of the name!
I want to buy speakers for the quality / clarity of the sounds!
I would love to upgrade the speakers on my car 6.5
I would love your professional personal opinion
Id like to see the d4s vs the old timpano mr6
or mr8
Playing this video on my studio monitors and this shit isn't even close. The UCMR's absolutely crush the DS18's.
They are built off of the Deaf Bonce speakers that's who made his first ever speakers. I'm sure they still are making those too
Not the USCMR or SFX line isnt
@THELIFEOFPRICE ok my bad man
Down for sound 🔊🔊🔊😍
Great video sir
The both sound terrible when loud but can't really tell through a UA-cam video but I prefer quality sound over loud
I have 6x9 DS18 + the 6.5 on the front doors. My amp only throws music to the 6x9 and the sound quality is 👌🏻👌🏻 it’s hard to really compare over video recording though lol but I can tell you DS18 throws quality sound even without an amp
hello midrange have bass or more for sound vocal better because use b2 midrange and dont have nothing bass only vocal sound
Waiting on u to compare this new shit to orion hcca
Mike will you please do 1 more test, after all of your normal demo/comparision/test's you do? @ the end of your video's, start testing @ Low power, like 50 watts rms per speaker, set the DSP to Full range, and play each test tone, for 3 to 5 second's, measuring the Db, set to peak hold, about 1 ft., to 1 meter, above the middle, exactly between, the two speaker's, starting @ 100Hz, then 90Hz, then 80Hz, 70Hz, 60Hz, 50Hz, and lastly 40Hz! This would REALLY show what one's got dat Bass! ❤ your video's, and i hope you implement this test @ the end of your video's, or better yet, Make a seperate video, comparing all of these speaker's you have already compared, but ✔ing the peak hold Db, @ 50 watts, with the 100Hz, down to 40Hz, with test tone's!? Please, much ❤️
MMATS SOUND LOUD AND QUALITY
Ds 18 prices have really jumped
Down4sound with the orion xpm6.5
Let's see what will happen 😂
prv550 forte
IDC what they look like just how they sound
D4S 110%
At least put some screws in it! Not ideal testing
👍🏽
D4s sounded better on every test and smoked that ds18 crap
@@adampaffrath4299 😂🧢 my ds18 will smoke your bs D4s
When anyone tells you that Pioneer is the fav audio spk run, run far away.
Best sounding system, I ever heard was all Pioneer speakers with their free air subs and running off the old ADS PQ series amps and an alpine head unit. Hands down best and I'm a 35-year car audio installer....
Those d4s speakers are basically deaf bonce....engineered by deaf bonce.... nothing special
DS18 sounds better
D4S sounds better
😮😮😮😂😂😂😂😂
Ds18 💩
So I've noticed this PLENTY of times in your videos & I've been waiting & waiting & waiting for someone besides me to stop & say something. You are TRYING to conduct TESTS... But in order to do so you kinda have to KNOW what you are doing to get that started let alone done. Don't get me wrong. You know something, but what......I DON'T KNOW. My problem is this. Most people have not been paying attention to your accidental bias. You keep comparing apples & oranges. If you dont know what I mean, I mean that putting a 4ohm speaker against an 8ohm speaker gives one speaker a handicap. Unless your amp is wide impedance ranged, the 8ohm speaker will always be lower because is only getting HALF the power. Which mean less performance. And from the sound that can be heard you can tell that there is a diffrence in their power to performance range. Now you keep mentioning a DSP, that doesn't matter until you you know RTA & various other things that matter in the "testing" that youre trying to do. Dude, not trying to be rude about ANY of this. But the truth is you've only woke up & gotten out of bed...you haven't yet touched the door to the bathroom to brush your teeth as to where sound & sound quality test comes to point or matter. Please use 4ohm & 4ohm...or 8ohm & 8ohm (I'm not picky). But what do I know, I only have several trophies for sound quality in competitions hanging around my place.🤔🤷🏽♂️🫵🏽🍾🥂
Hey bro thank you for watching and for you comment I did special video showing 4ohm vs 8ohm an with ohm resister watch my that vide there is no difference loudness or sound quality so On you have to watch more videos on my channel 🫡
True, lower Ohms equals less resistance, so the amp push more power, I have 4 of the 6" DS18 10th Anniversary and at 8 Ohms you're not going to give the speaker the 250w RMS on a 4 channel amp.
@ChrisAzure That's INCORRECT I DO & HAVE & WILL continue giving the intire 250wrms to mine using my DS18 250wrms×4 amp. It's rated for it so why not use it. The complication is that many people don't know EXACTLY how to use equalizers & when it comes to these particular speakers for instance, the "eq" gets used incorrectly. Flatten the eq, adjust the amp... then flatten that eq curve & readjust the amp again. It's a bit of work, but 100% worth it. No gimmicks. It's the same considerations as a TIME ALIGNMENT. A real time alignment. RTA. 250wrms or bust.
@@armonnykelley1838 I was complementing your comment but if you look at the spec sheets, you'll see at what Ohms you're getting those 250W RMS and I can guarantee you that it won't be at 8 Ohms on a 250w RMS x4. As an example, the DS18 ZXI.4XL can output 250w RMS at 4 Ohms, if your speakers are 4 Ohms then yeah, you're giving them those 250w RMS to your 4 speakers, but if your speaker are 8 Ohms you are not giving them those 250w RMS, to make it more clear, with the mentioned amp if you manage to lower your Ohms load to 2 Ohms then the amp output increase to 400w RMS x4, hopefully that clarifies what I meant, which is basically saying that you're right, comparing a 4 Ohms speaker vs an 8 Ohms speaker is not apples to apples when the goal is to know which are louder because the 4 Ohms speaker will get more power from the amp, unless you are using something like a Marts Digital MXS-4000x4-2 which at 4 Ohms can deliver 800w RMS x4, rest assure that you'll get more than 250w RMS at 8 Ohms. Higher Ohms speaker = Less power from the amp.
@@ChrisAzureEXACTLY! 👍🏼👍🏼👌🏼👍🏼👍🏼👌🏼💪🏽👏🏼! You're right on the money. AND Thank you!! I appreciate the compliment.
I'd rather buy focal, audio frog, vega, dynaudio, or many others over junk like ds18, and I'll never give a penny to jp so d4s is just out for me.
😂
Down4sound have better sound ,👋👍✌
You are forgetting the tweeter, these speakers are designed to play the midrange frequency, they are not full range.
D4S has way higher frequency, hardly any midbass.
@@garycharley8589 This test showed D4S had more Low freq. than ds18, and played lower freq. than rated.
D4S sounds better