Before retirement I sold RV’s for several years and I assure you that November and December are the BEST time of the year to buy- if the dealer has what you want and you experience a cold winter. Sales in those 2 months are drastically down and their year is ending so they will take almost any offer. Our location in Colorado would sell 100-125 units monthly during spring/summer and 20-30 in November/December. January starts show season, new models and higher base prices from all the new stuff being added to the new year models.
I just bought a Class B used. Was able to take my mom out for 5 nights camping after having her on lockdown since March. We use our class B to go do take out and eat right there at the restaurants. I’m using the van to sleep in since college plans for my child changed due to Covid. It’s given us some safe freedom to travel. I’m sure I paid a little higher than what will be the case once Covid ends, but there really seems no end in sight at this time. Being on lockdown is stressful, I feel the investment I’ve made is worth it as this will be a new normal for awhile. And if you have family who are in the higher risk category; this is a great way to travel safely with them. My mom doesn’t need to set foot in a public restroom or store and most of her contact with new people is outdoor and socially distanced thanks to the van. So, for me and my family buying now was the perfect time and we are using our van to the fullest.
You're absolutely right about being the safest way to travel right now. Couldn't agree more! So happy you can have your mom enjoy these great experiences. Enjoy and safe travels! - MJ
What did you end up getting? I recently fell in love with vandwelling and always like to know what works for people. Time spend with family is precious! Happy travels 😊
Thanks a lot for the tips! I've never imagined that the prices of both brand new and used RVs would skyrocket simultaneously, not thanks to this pandemic! Prospective RVers would just have to wait for the right time to purchase.
You may have just saved me a bundle of $! Thank you. As a novice RV person and renter, I was looking into making my first purchase this year. Your video is timely and makes sense. It won’t stop me from looking, that’s an addiction all it’s own, but it will help me make a better choice about spending my money.
I disagree to a point and that point being...most new rv's that sell depreciate so hard that most people are upside down so bad when they try to unload it, they can't sell it for a good price.
Haylett Rv is already selling slightly used 2020’s and used 1-3 yr old rvs. Most of the time it’s because the owners don’t have time or are done camping.
We've casually started looking. We had a 5th wheel we had to sell due to health challenges, but are ready to get back in. I'm really hoping next spring will see a market adjustment and that dealers/folks will be trying to unload excess/unwanted inventory.
I’m one of those people!!! Lol!!! Just bought a 2021 Rockwood Mini Lite 2509S last week!!!! Paid 26K for it, had to drive 15 hrs to get it!!! Was on the dealer lot for less than 24 hrs, bought it after I was sent the photos!!! I don’t regret it one bit!!! I did research this for many months/years, I do understand that under another time period I would had paid less, but no regrets so far. We are on the first trip with it in Maine. Needless to say Everything was fully booked for the Labor Day weekend, but found an amazing spot for a reasonable price. Inventories are beyond low, anything “special” or sought after is impossible to get until at least November!!! Do your research and maybe wait till Winter early Spring!!! We jumped the gun but are extremely happy that we did!!!
Our Mini-Lite 2509S goes into (hopefully) production next week. The dealer will get it 2 weeks afterwards and the dealer will spend a few days inspecting the coach. Delivery on 10/23. We put the order in mid-July after we sold our 10yr old pop-up. Now they are bring shipped as 2021.5 models. Depending on what is on your 2509S, I was getting quotes in July for 28K and 30K, so 26K not a bad deal. We went Rockwood (Forest River) because we have friends that have a Rockwood going on 12yrs old now. My brother-in-law bought their camper 2-3 yrs ago (not a Forest River trailer). Last year had an issue with a slide motor, an electrical issue, and a couple months ago an issue with the roof. I don't believe quality is going to go down right now. If the manufacture has high quality standards, they will continue those high quality standards. We loved the 2509S when we first saw it. Perfect size (can fit in smaller sites my in-laws 35ft trailer can't), has everything we wanted to plan longer trips we couldn't do in the pop-up comfortably (and we did week long trips in the pop-up, a high wall unit 25ft extended). 4 more weeks figures crossed.
My girlfriend and I (57 and 60) have only briefly thought about RVing.We have watched many of the most popular RV channels and enjoy all of the positives and negatives they share about their experiences in the ''lifestyle''. We have decided(without much persuasion) that it just isn't worth the hassle. This was an outstanding video,..so much honesty and insight..and,..we have been binge-watching your other videos,....just for fun and information purposes.
Thank you for the cold splash of reality! My original plan was to buy in January but lately with the limited availability I have felt more pressure to buy now. After watching this video, I’m going to go back to my plan. I’ll be happier waiting for the RV I really want instead of buying something now just because it’s available. I’m enjoying your videos, thanks again!
I purchased mine June 2019 and I have been enjoying it ever since. I put 20,000. Miles on it. I could not stay in California with all the restrictions I went to RV parks spent a month at a time having a really good time. Last winter enjoyed Florida a lot ended up in Texas. Then got home last week June 2021. I only came in for 3 months here or there. I am so thankful for this time.
I got a 2003 24' Class C Four winds used RV in great shape with inspection from the seller for $7,500. Got it in March and wife cant stop going on trips lol. I see this as Gods sign to head for the hills when SHTF.
Thank you. We’re relying on people in the know, like you, to help us out. Really appreciate the straight talk. I’m shopping for my first ever, and I really, really need this kind of advice.
We went to buy a new rv and they are being pushed out so fast still that several issues with brand new rvs. Please be super patient as so many are getting fixed its gonna take a bit of time if you take it to your dealer to get the warranty to repair.
I’ve wanted a camper van for about a year. Knew exactly the rig I wanted, pulled the trigger in May and flew from Jersey to Iowa to take possession at end of July. Very happy so far...will let you know if the wheels fall off in the near future!
Boy, is that the truth! I love looking online because dreaming is all I can do at this point. No one has anything to sell and so there's nothing to even look at. Another great video that I always appreciate from you guys. Keep up the good work; you seem to be looking out for us!
Thank you for sharing your knowledge on RV, we are looking to buy our first RV, and we will definitely follow you’d advise-a few months wait isn’t a big deal.
Baby Boomers are retiring now and want to get into the next phase of their lives. If you want to get a RV now, then get one. Time is not reversible. Do it and have fun. We just bought one and look forward to using it.
Absolutely great points you guys have brought to the table. Renee and I have noticed a lot RV'ers out on the road and we correlate it to the fact that a lot of people are not traveling internationally. Definitely causing a spike in RV living within the states. We are blown away that an RV park is charging an extra fee for kids!? Curious to see how many other RV parks start maybe jumping on that train to increase some profits. Great information, thank you both! - Kyle and Renee
Yes guys they are charging for everything. It’s something we will keep in the back of our mind when the well runs dry for these places ;) Thanks for watching and the comment Izzy
I agree 100% with you guys. Was looking at purchasing a super C I’m going to wait till the end of the year. You guys are spot on all of the places we went throughout the Western US, now we can’t even get in there for a year, before we just drive in. I owned Miramar 34.2 triton v10 very reliable done a ton of work to the coach, and repaired all the factory defects, sad that something made in America is so damn cheap.
Hello, I have been wanting to move & down size. Turning 65, with 3 dogs, I have been looking at my options for over a year!.. Reading, and Reading, to figure which way to go! Then all of this “pandemic” stuff hit! OMG!.. like you said, I have been watching the craziest things happen with the escalation of all the RVing going on!... I just recently went camping with friends, we totally as you had mentioned, lucked out and got the last spot in a camp ground, with only electrical “offered”..even though it had the dump available it was capped off. (Have no idea why)..so had to tow to dump site halfway threw our camping time, for dumping..not to convenient. I think you’re spot on with your advice! I am kinda even reluctant on even buying the ones that will come on the market in a couple years or year, from those that are tired of RVing, after thinking of what you said about just basically slapping them together, (basically)..you know what I mean... what are your thoughts on that??..would you wait... till it slows way down..... any advice??.. Luckily..I am not in a super rush.. I totally get where people are coming from... with everything going on.. but, am amazed at how many RV’s I’ve seen just around my place.... and they just are sitting going no where... kinda sad... anyway, Great advice! Appreciate your updates and honesty!
We would not buy new in this current market. You will likely not get the deal you could get when inventory stabilizes. There are good used coaches out there if you look. Thanks for watching and the comment. Izzy
We started RVing 5 years ago, it is so different now. We used to be able to take off on a Friday evening after work, drive 45 mins to an hour away with no reservations and pull in a spot. Every year it has gotten harder and harder to do that. This year, forget about it! A couple times this year I have arrived at a campground that used to be pretty open, I arrived on a Wednesday just after lunch and there was only one site available. I noticed the rest of the week and weekend any campsite never stayed open for more than 20 mins. It had gotten to be almost too stressful and not fun this year. We used to go every other weekend, now it's every couple of months. You do see a lot of the paper temp plates where people just bought a new RV or trailer and you can tell from the way the trailer is hooked to the truck these people clearly are new and don't know about weights and limitations, pretty dangerous in some situations.
Check out Racoon Haller rv park. My uncle owns it and it’s a fabulous place with plenty of spots due to him and my cousins constantly adding full service spots
@@DivineSublime22 Hi Velvet, can you tell me how it is today? Is it overrunned with the new migrants. Hey your name is my sisters name. I have yet to see someone else with that name. Kudos.
We're newbies closing in on retirement, who started doing research last year, and started shopping in January 2020. We couldn't come to a decision on which of the 8 or so models we were interested in, so we decided to take a break. I happen to go online in April to see if I could find one of the models we had not been able to see in person, and found one about an hour away. We went to see it, fell in love, and a few days later signed the papers. Luckily this was a 2020 model, (Keystone Ultra Lite 260UML) built before CoVid hit, and have only had a couple of minor cosmetic issues that we fixed ourselves. We've also seen on various FB RV groups, the issues people are having, and feel so lucky we bought when we did!!
I do not have an RV but have been an avid UA-cam follower of a number of RV UA-camrs. It's pretty clear to me that RVing (FT Boondockers are a different breed) is expensive and requires a lot more work than just getting in the car, driving someplace, and getting a hotel. I don't look at RVing as being less expensive at all. I think some people will grossly underestimate the cost and planning required to RV. My timeline is more in the next 2-3 years when prices stabilize. I appreciate the post - you did a great job of identifying a topic no one is talking about. Nice job!
This is also happening with all vehicles, firearms and ammunition. I'm a firearms instructor, I would not buy a gun or ammo now. I also wouldn't buy any vehicle now. I get trolls trespassing on my apartment complex leaving notes on my 10 year old Jeep offering to buy it. C-19 has really shown what supply and demand economics is all about. If you're thinking about selling something that's greatly appreciated in value because of C-19 ask yourself this, "What am I going to replace it with if it's an item I require to live?" I get people e-mailing and calling me all the time about how to get a gun. I tell them they missed the boat. The time to buy a gun and stock up on ammo was before disasters like C-19. Same thing with buying any vehicle. Best thing to do is to keep what you have and take care of it. Basic maintenance costs haven't changed. If the vehicle runs well and properly taken care of, ride it out then buy when the economic crash happens after C-19 is over with or it at least becomes endemic like the flu. Once C-19 is over with or at least becomes endemic and a nuisance like the flu the price of everything will go through the floor.
richard kemna we ordered our current motorhome in 2018 and picked up in 2019. Glad we did as the market is not for buying now. Thanks for watching and the comment. Izzy
When all of this covid is over we are going to see the used RV markets explode. Alot of people who bought RVs do not understand how much work it is to take care of a RV. 😎😎😎
LOL It's never going to be "over". Today, we still catch the SAME virus that caused the Pandemic of 1918-1920; it's called the H1N1 virus, and we often get vaccinated for it (or a portion of it along with another virus) each flu season. Heck, even the plague hasn't gone away, you just rarely hear about it anymore; a woman just came down with it recently in Tahoe around July 4th, and now there are signs up there all over the place where she was walking her dog and was bitten by fleas. CoVid-19 is likely here to stay, only we will eventually develop a vaccine for it (within the next 4-10 years, hopefully sooner). The vaccine for H1N1 wasn't developed until 1940, I believe? Right now, they're doing all this so that our healthcare centers around the globe don't collapse under the weight of everyone getting sick all at once and not having enough respirators and frontline employees (who also come down with this stuff) to take care of us. SYNOPSIS: This is all about preventing the healthcare system from becoming overwhelmed by widespread community spread of the virus. CoVid-19 is here to stay, and it's going to mutate....and mutate again....and then that mutation will mutate. This is why we need a vaccine (and the vaccine doesn't prevent people from catching it, it just helps you SURVIVE IT when you do by making the symptoms less severe).
I know people who spend $10k per year for a vacation. So...$600 a month for an RV payment may not seem like a lot. It is not until they get it home and realize maintenance costs, insurance, travel costs etc.. and how much they are under water once they drove off the lot. Then the time it takes to maintain it. A $10K vacation takes a day to plan and the time to to take it. A RV is a commitment.
Thanks for the video. My wife and I are researching the market for an RV - I will be retiring within the next 5 years. We have thought of purchasing this year, but as you said COVID and little inventory - we live in MD. Several RV Dealerships have inventory, but not alot. Thanks again. We will probably wait another 6 to 9 months before we do purchase. We plan on RVing full time since I will be retired.
Oh my gosh I just found your UA-cam and I am so grateful for both of you. I have been really praying on creative solutions on how to simplify our lives as empty-nesters and we really want to get an RV and sell our home so we can pay off debt and be able to live a simple life. It is almost February 2022 does this video still apply today or is this the time to start looking to buy?
I've had 9 rvs. 5 tow behinds, and fifth wheels. I am ready to acquire another, new, fifth wheel. However, I feel it is in my best interest to hold off until spring of 2021.
Thanks guys! This reinforced our decision to pile up the cash for “when the COVID -19 newbies realize an RV is a burden to them...” In the somewhat distant future (post COVID) there should be a lot of “slightly used, mostly stored” RV’s hitting the market.
We just finished up the Tampa show. What we saw were less RV’s vs 2020 and significantly higher prices. Save your $ and by late this year I think you will be getting a much better deal. Thanks for watching and the comment. Izzy
I would be concerned about buying a "Slightly used, Mostly stored" RV. The newbie that found out "it wasn't for them" may have had no clue on what to do with it.. Proper Black/Gray drains, wrong TP being used, Not setting the awning properly during a rain storm, leaving the roof vent open while in outside storage, etc, etc....
Normally agree with you but not this time. You’re looking at it mostly from a financial transaction. You could wait years until this pandemic is over and prices stabilize. You’ll probably pay a premium for used but you can still shop and get what you want. How much of the RV experience will you miss because you waited. New RV’s can be built and purchased at pre-pandemic levels. I agree with you on quality concerns. RV’s are complex by their nature and they are dependent on an extensive supplier network. This will probably break down at some point.
It’s all personal choice. If it was strictly financial no one would buy an RV. They are a terrible investment speaking from a financial view point. What we are trying to say is this is not the ideal time to buy and the reasons why. If someone watches the video and still buys an RV at least they have another view point outside an RV sales person. Thanks for watching and the comment. Izzy
I feel that the pandemic is the least of of Americans’ problems if we get the Socialists in the White House. If you had financial problems under the 8 Obama years - you ain’t seen nothing yet!
I feel that the pandemic is the least of Americans’ problems if we get the Socialists in the White House. If you had financial problems under the 8 Obama years - you ain’t seen nothing yet! This RV buying splurge is directly the result of the forced COVID-19 shutdown and being quarantined for at least 2 weeks with family, whether sick or well. We don’t usually spend that much time with family, and now that things are opening up, people are going crazy to escape confinement! Totally natural!
I concur with Rick...supplier network has already been impacted...also if you need a respite from others, it is a place to stay, even if it is in your driveway. However covid is not the only variable to consider leading to possible societal collapse.....consequently could be "bug out" shelter
Thank you for your honesty! My husband and I are Baby Boomers, we are basically empty nesters with exception of our 130lb shepherd/malamute mix, Arthur. The past two years have been difficult loosing my parents so we finally have some time and had been seriously considering looking at purchasing a class C RV, we’ve been watching Matt’s RV show. However, we had our reservations and after watching your video, I believe we were correct in our thoughts to wait for awhile. Thank you again for a informative and honest perspective!! We will keep watching!
Thank you for your opinions. I am in the process of getting ready to sell my home to RV full time. I’m luckily in no hurry and your video just cemented my thoughts around waiting to buy my RV until the RV market turns back into a buyer’s market. Appreciate the video!
It’s crazy some people are making more money than ever and some are out of jobs. But I do agree not a good time to buy an RV. Thanks for watching and the comment. Izzy
I think we are just going to start to see a shift in jobs. Many of us essential workers never stopped our ordinary routine. Here in Indiana we never completely shut down. Mandatory masks and everything back up and running.
@@t.f.3228 if you pay cash up front, yes. I have some one at work who is retiring in 2 years and he has a strict cash budget of $75k max USD. He sold his home years ago and stashed the money away.
Yes to all of this. I’m in a self built campervan for the past three years and was hoping to make a change to a truck camper in the next year or two. Hopefully, prices will be more reasonable for both truck and camper. One of the main reasons for the switch is to increase Boondocking and get away from masses. Thanks for post. Always timely material on your channel. 👍🏼
I have been planning on full time living in a 4 season camper for a couple of years now. I'm 66, have a property where I keep my horses, divorced for over twenty years, just want to dump the house and live there. At first when covid started I thought it might be time to act. Then I started researching and I agree with this video of yours, it's best to hold off, try to pick up something when people that jumped in, don't like the lifestyle or whatever want to move back into the house. I subscribed because I do think you have the knowledge to give the right advice. Thanks a lot, I'll be watching
We have a 1967 Aladdin that we are restoring and we ground down the roof top to the metal and reapplied the weather coating and in a rain squall no leaks. We now have to do the rest, but I look forward to knowing what we have done to the rig from top to bottom and is going to perform well. Only if I sold everything would I consider a big 5th wheel but that would be more than 10 years or more down the road,if ever. I’m happy with small. Ours is 19 ft, with shower and bathroom. So that’s the route we would take to love the one your with.
We purchased ours class a diesel the first week of April when the dealers were panicked. They cut a great deal for us since no one was buying. I thought we were crazy as well. Super glad we did, I am sure it still depreciated but much less then normal. I would say we saved 10-15%. I also believe there will be several good used RVs next year and the big dip will happen in 2022. When the dust settles. I do think now more people have discovered the RV lifestyle they will prefer it to hotels and airplanes. I cringe thinking about airports and staying in a hotel room now.
Hey Craig. Yes, I think people aren't sure what next summer will look like yet so RVing may still be the safest form of vacation next year for people also. Glad you got a good deal! 👍 - MJ
Increased production ALWAYS means poor quality build. The focus is to “get em out the door”, let the Dealer make all the repairs. Don’t let your excitement cause you to make mistakes.
I was Lucky, got my nearly new 2020 in early June at a reasonable price just before market went ballistic. I love it, no regrets here, I hope to keep this one for a Long time !
Hi guys…and thank you so much for these awesome videos! Learning so much. We ordered a Class C in 2018. We love it, but want to move into a Class A since we are now both retired. I too had a life changing event, now being a cancer survivor. We want to do some long term trips and see so many places. We don’t have to be at work on Monday morning. We just looked at a Class A. It is a 2022 Newmar Baystar 3609. But, the sales price doesn’t drop that much. Maybe 10%. Not sure of the discount percentage that we could EXPECT on a Newmar. Nothing wrong with our coach, other than not much storage for 2 people that want to travel longer distances for longer times. A month or two out at a time. We are aware of the economy surrounding the RV market. And, we can wait, but it’s about timing and time is good right now for upgrade…just the price is unknown. It appears that the curve may be shifting. I would really appreciate your thoughts.
You guys are right on the money. Wait a few months and the market will be flooded with RVs sold by countless people who had no idea of what they were getting into and thought it was a great idea to get an RV to travel during the coronavirus. There was a time when the best deals on relatively new used RVs were in Florida after the winter season. People bought them in many areas, drove to Florida and decided they didn’t want to drive their RV back and just wanted to sell it. You’re also the only folks that tell it like it really is. As experienced RVers, ourselves, we know you are damn right and damn honest.
too late! already did, it's sitting in my driveway and I took it out this weekend. This money was ear marked for a kitchen remodel, but decided otherwise. I'm retiring, have plans and want to get out there, have grandkids across country and want to spend time with them, tired of a long flight and kicking someone out of their bed, so I'll just pull up in my RV now. I probably paid more for my 'new to me' used RV, but I like it, it's been well taken care of, have all the books for it and my mechanic gave me the thumbs up. Just got back from taking it out this weekend my first trip, it went well, I get back and see this, wow. I have no regrets.
Denise Inight I just sold my home and bought a new 2020 Ram 3500 Longhorn dually to carry the Host Mammoth truck camper and now can’t find a camper, the one I want anyways. May have made the biggest mistake in my life . Idk
Bought a house in Mississippi. Was going to sell my Casita. After the first hurricane scare, we are keeping our Casita for escaping and if needed, temporarily housing.
No disrespect....but I don’t see how they are good mobile bunkers. A bunker is almost by definition stealthy, RVs stand out. Bunkers have thick walls or other measures that make them hard to open or shoot thru...RVs don’t. Bunkers are largely fire proof, RVs are not. Bunkers can’t be tipped over. I agree RVs are great emergency/natural disaster bug-out vehicles, and a better bunker than a car or motorcycle.
Wow! What a gutsy video! Thank you for your input on the RV industry! I am glad I purchased my RV in 2017. I might be able to get back what I paid for it originally, if I decided to sell.
Your right, best to rent for your special trip . Now, I’m 74 with severe arthritis in spine. I drive 3 ton GMC all terrain to make up for my disability. For the cost we can stay in the nicest resorts with room service and laundry. RVs are fun, but the old way is best unless your off road. Thanks for your refreshing ideals Michigan
I've been binge watching UA-cam s over the past couple of weeks with people living mostly full time in all sorts of rigs. I've decided it's not for me. I'm not a mechanic, it's a lot of work, expensive, inconvenient and uncomfortable for what I am looking for - getting away into the open spaces. I've decided that since I don't need to do that full or even part time, but just once in awhile, I'll just drive my car and get a tent or bnb and maybe just sleep in my car on occasion. It's been really fun getting a peak into that lifestyle/world though, and I can sure see why people do it. I may pull together a little camp prep/cooking set up, though, to avoid restaurants.
Jarhead just retired on Monday and we are back in the USA. We are hotel and Airbnb hopping until we find our RV. going to look tomorrow. The one we want is in high demand.
I called my dealership to inquire about a specific Airstream i have wanted for years and they had the exact model, with all the extras I wanted, coming off the showroom floor. It felt like a message from God. I bought it based on online pictures only.
I have started researching, so far have one dealer that has been great, he knows we are not buying until next spring.....hopefully. He does call when he gets something that fits what we are looking for. He seems patient and willing to help us. I hear what you are saying and I hope we have success. Not gonna lie, I’m a little nervous about making the wrong decisions. We have talked about this well before Covid.
You nailed it! Your video is very timely. My wife and I have been back and forth to the dealership looking at class A diesels and in some of the largest RV dealerships in Central Florida, there were only four available (of the kind of RV we were looking for). All new, nothing pre-owned. And there was almost zero negotiating with them. I have been telling my wife it's best to wait. I was talking to the salesperson only an hour before we watched your video this evening with a plan to visit him again tomorrow to look at the RV. After your video, we made the "adult" decision to go with our gut and to wait. I am hoping in the coming months when some of those that are no longer interested are willing to get rid of it and the inventory is back to before where you can negotiate. Thanks again!
Edward McGowan if there is no negotiation it’s not the time to buy you will be certainly over paying. Wait it out and you will save a lot of money. Thanks for watching and the comment. Izzy
Hello everyone, As I am reading all the posts from the last few hours, I am amazed by the responses to the video. We too were having issues finding the perfect unit with no success. So as we're looking at a Grand Design models. We join the GD owners group on FaceBook and began asking direct questions and the response was overwhelming with great information. So, here I go.. if you are looking at an older model..fine. If you want someone else poopy tank with a stinky slinky, that's great. For us, we printed a spec sheet of the options that we wanted and what was standard as well. Printed and saved the spec as a doc. Called a few dealers that were recommended by the group and summited the specs to those dealers only. Out of 8 dealers, 6 responded and quickly down to two. a few days later. We had the deal we wanted from Norm Wheelen at CoachLight RV. They are located in Missouri and we live temporarily in Texas, moving on back to Washington State soon. We also need to buy a truck to pull our baby "Journey" with us as well. We got a great deal on a NEW unit as things are changing in the RV market before the fall. Please folks DO NOT ON IMPULSE! Get all the gear that you need, I mean everything, pack lightweight and then get your baby. Stay positive and relax as you may be a future full-timer. You ask, what did you buy. We bought a Grand Design 5th wheel. I am excited and scared S#$%less too.
I am surprised you found a truck. I was just glancing at inventory where I normally buy my trucks and they had 1 F350 Platinum and only 4 in F250. This is a dealership that normally would have 20-25 Platinum's in F250 and at least 8 to 10 in the F350. This is a large dealership and they don't have much on their lot even in lower end XLT packages.
Thanks a bunch for sharing Shane. I’m in the same boat almost, I’m looking for a new truck and new fifth wheel. Have been really focusing on the grand Design reflection 150 series. Never owned a truck or trailer before.
I'm one of those people who have always loved tiny homes. Two of my plans this year got cancelled. I have been to hotels since COVID19 and they are skipping the free breakfast ( box lunch) the pools and spas closed, the tv and computer in lobby unavailable and the exercise rooms closed. I am seriously considering buying an SUV. Turning in my Prius and buying a small camper. (Under$20k) but when you said that most of the time you can get at least 25-40%off, I think I'll wait.
25% would be standard. We got 28% off our Newmar when we ordered in 2018 with very little negotiation effort. Thanks for watching and the comment. Izzy
New to the channel. I’m employed with the airlines. Next year we will be taking pay cuts. So we will wait and gather info while we wait for the right time to buy. We will be upgrading from a C to an A. Thanks so much for taking the time to do these informative videos.
Searching and waiting to buy our first. Everything you shared made so much sense. I know someone who just bought one and is having the craftsmanship issues you mentioned. Thank you for sharing an honest opinion.
Agree - not the lifestyle. Your new or used rv is called your new home because you've no longer got a job, business, apartment, or house. I live in western NM by a large mountain. There aren't really campgrounds per se, but people (families) are "camped" all over the place. Not to be discouraging, however, it doesn't look to be improving any time soon...😐
Hey guys.......So, in the last month I've made 3 offers on 3 different RV's. One barely came down, the other two wouldn't budge.....I walked. I won't overpay. I saw another one on the RV Trader yesterday, the first day it was posted. I sent a message asking the owner to call me so we can discuss it over the phone rather than email. I received an email later that night telling me that he received a full price offer and thanked me for my interest! It's crazy out there, and definitely not a good time to buy. I'm a cash buyer, and have plenty of time to wait. I predicted back in May on one of your videos that after the summer, there will be an overflow of RV's after this initial surge. You guys are spot on with what's happening in the market. Unless I can find a deal (which will probably be difficult in this market) I'm holding out. Maybe it slows down in the Fall, maybe Winter, perhaps Spring. I guess we'll have to wait and see. That being said, I have a friend and fellow UA-camr who came out with me last week to checkout one of the RV's I looked at and made an offer on. He brought his camera, made a short 15 minute video, and uploaded it to his channel a day ago. Here's the link: ua-cam.com/video/RA1fUvK40S4/v-deo.html check it out when you have a chance!
I'm in the process of buying a 3 year old TT that was used maybe 9 times from a private seller. It's 3 grand under NADA and they are including $1900 in hitch/gear. I had a certified inspector check it out. This seems like a good deal to me. Couldn't find anything new and prices were very high.
Very wise sage perspective! I would like to RV full-time in retirement starting around 2024. For a year or two as I scope out the perfect retirement location for me. I'm alone and so want to move about the country. Thanks for your insights! 😁
Hi guys. I’ve recently found your channel. We are going to buy an rv, but not until next spring. This is something we’ve been planning to do for a long time. We’ve rv’d before and love it. My husband does what you do for a living and is finally retiring. Yay! Anyway, thanks for this video! Very good!
After seeking for months, and exhausted of looking, I put a depost down at a dealer because i wanted one so bad, even was willing to settle for buying new and getting reemed (expensive). I was worried about buying used because people might have beaten them up. When the Dealer didn't get it to me fast enough, I went online and searched again. I actually searched for the exact model I wanted and found it on FB market place. A woman who only used hers for 8 weeks and it was only a year old....and MUCH cheaper than the new model. We connected she was awesome, and even left me all the stuff she had in there. Long story. ANyway, I am soooo happy I got it, because it is my backup plan, plus I am a photographer too so I travel around and this will be awesome for me too instead of paying hotels or not being able to because of current events.
My spouse and I have been considering buying an RV. We watched as the prices skyrocketed. Your review is spot on. We will hold off until the market is flooded and we get a GREAT deal. Thanks for confirming the information.
We made our first class c purchase in January 2020. We have had two different types of RVs prior, so we feel we made a good deal. We have used it several times since our purchase, but try to make sure we are being safe, respectful of fellow campers, and ensure we stay calm and relaxed. We are staying away from the over crowded areas and just get away from the four walls of quarantine. When not out RVing, I use it for zoom calls since the house is a work at home station and a virtual classroom. Stay safe and happy camping. ⛺️🛣🏕🏞
Totally agree with ur 5 reasons. A friend of mine is a salesman. He and I have both hit on the topics u spoke of. Meanwhile all the other entities r taking advantage of the situation.
I’ve seen a lot of what we used to call “hangar queens”, RVs they couldn’t get rid of. Something is wrong with them. I’d wait until all these people who panic bought try to sell. FACT: quality is inversely proportioned to production rate. Lots of nubies will be disillusioned and will take the hit to get out. Say late 2021, early 2022. Buy stock in RV Repair companies!
I think that all the people that purchased these RVs will realize it is not for them and next yr will be flooding the market. I sold mine in March and was going to buy a new one but got Furloughed so will wait!
@@RiverWoods111 Thanks for that. Some of us watch RV videos to get away from the political nutbags and their irrefutable theories. Peeps like you can keep us focused on what is truly important.
As someone who just bought an RV, I can say it’s one of the best times to buy. Interest rates are at historic lows, children are getting older so waiting isn’t an option, and deals are still plentiful even if you are ordering. There are always people who buy in and sell quickly when they find this isn’t for them. This is like vacation properties, boats, etc... I mean if you are a couple who wants to full time and have nothing but time, then may be waiting for the used market to pick back up and find a steal?
Spot on with your comments. I am 2 yr full time in a Newmar Ventana. Production of this coach was during a busy time and huge mistakes were made... caused me a LOT of problems. Getting routine service is months out. Good luck getting a campground - I am routinely put on a standby list. Currently looking for a house... then I'm getting out of this culture. Things are too upside down right now, with no fix in sight. Thanks for your videos.
Great video. Makes me realize how lucky I am. Just bought a 2009 R-POD151 for $6.5k. It's spotless, no smells but did need a little systems tweaking. Came with new shoes and a new marine battery, and the goofy Olympic swirls were stripped off and replaced with subdued graphics. Had been looking at used Casitas but the prices are totally insane and new ones have a lead time over a year. And the prices for the new ones are just as crazy. The factory quoted me $35k for a new 17' egg. Crazy.
Looks like ill have to make do with what I can get. My house is already in contract. I have about 2 weeks left. My wife passed suddenly on Wed and I am going on this trip to continue our dream. Ive found a little Surveyor that will fit me and the dogs well. Time to seek out all the beauty I can find!
Good for you - definitely continue that dream. I am so sorry about your wife. My thoughts are with you. Enjoy your travels with the dogs. Stay safe. :) - MJ
I honestly just bought a 2018 palomino. I’m stationary. My monthly cost is $750 for the lease, and lot rent... palomino is nice. I found it less then a half of a mile away from the spot I decided to park it in. I think that there are deals out there if you’re willing to be patient.
It will be interesting to see what happens when things settle down. I am glad I got mine last December !! Great thoughts on the subject for sure, Thanks Izzy and MJ !!
Who should do an inspection of your RV that you are considering to purchase? If you have the dealer's mechanic inspect it that is like having the fox guard the henhouse.
All great points! We're doing a lot of online research as well as walking through anything we think could be a contender. Hoping to buy in first quarter of 2021, likely used & inspection will be mandatory.
I don't know whether to believe it or not, but if you talk to dealers you will find out that ordering a particular model with options at this point might not make it to the dealer until sometime next summer (June/July). I saw where one dealer was mentioning if you want a bunkhouse model your chances will be better. The bunkhouses were the first to go and the manufacturers are pumping them out now more so than non-bunkhouse. I guess the families instead of retired couples are buying most of the RV right now.
Thank you for putting this out! Our family is planning to full-time come 2023 and we are doing our homework. I just told my husband last month that when we finally make our purchase we will not be buying anything manufactured in 2020.
Very helpful. But, everyone can't be like me :) ...I'm designing right now. I'm building a Travel Trailer. Doing a building cost estimate. I know I can do it. I'm not guessing. If people can build (or re-build) vans and old school buses, I can build a Travel Trailer from scratch. It's all in the fun. Actually, it's kids play for me. Retired... Can't wait to get out there.
We are the couple you are talking about. We have been shopping for years. I’ve seen prices go from 30% off MSRP to now, full retail! I won’t be purchasing a 2020-21. I’m afraid the “new buyers” will want pay-off, when they decide to unload their Covid buy. I think 2022 will be our year.
I have been waiting to buy an RV, retired relatives say to do the motel travel thing, eat out, use laundromat's, it's cheaper in the long run. I like the idea of travel at my own pace, take the dog 🐕, eat out is fine, laundry facilities fine, I want to sleep in my own bed. I'm thinking Sprinter type RV.
I have learned this first hand, as we shop for a used class A. We are not newbies, but rather to go back to a class A from a 5th wheel. The used market is insanely high. We’ll be waiting at least until spring to get serious.
This is great info. We are in the market for our first couples camper but we just can't bring ourselves to pull the trigger on anything right now. I agree there is going to be a HUGE used market next year. In MI where we live we heard you had to reserve camp space a year in advance before covid. I cannot imagine what it is like now. I'm unwilling to spend money at this time to camp in my driveway. We are nearing retirement and I hope this craziness does not hang on too long. Again good stuff and thanks for putting this out. It's nice to hear what we think is going on validated.
Just visited my local dealer, and the lot was seventy percent empty. Told him what I was looking for, and he said it would take about 4 months, and I thought probably will be a lot of quality issues. He said 23,500 for the unit, then I asked how much for tax, title, and such, he said 3,500.00 ... "WHAT" I left... Instantly.
I’ve just started looking into this lifestyle. The more I investigate the worse it looks. Campsite over crowding, expensive repairs, poor quality rig construction, rude neighbors, it all adds up to the opposite of a carefree lifestyle in retirement. I think a comfortable SUV and hotels might be the better way to see the country.
If your budget is that small that you cannot afford one under warranty, then it probably does make sense to drive your SUV. Although you are no longer comparing apples to apples. Being able to stop wherever you want to eat your own food in your own fridge raider on your own table or take a nap on your own bed is much different than being stuck in a seat in an SUV for thousands of miles while your spouse is in the passenger seat looking for a good deal on a hotel room that has been cleaned by an employee making $10 an hour. Nothing against that employee but there’s a pretty good chance that you’re not going into a bacteria free room. RV equals sanitary conditions, hotel rooms equal Russian roulette in the current times we live in
Pierre Nak your point is well taken but I guarantee there isn’t a sterile RV unit anywhere in the world. Cleaner than a hotel room? Debatable. Still, I’d rather sleep in my own bed every night. I agree with you there. We are most interested in Class A travel. I don’t like the idea of a huge fifth wheel or a large Class C. We are in the market in about 2 years. Perhaps by then there will be some great deals on used 2020 rigs.
Hotels have better showers and nicer pools, but don't expect clean sheets or towels. : ) Honestly, I can't imagine the elderly population enjoying the work an RV requires, unless they are so wealthy they can pay people to take care of it for them.
mike73ng I bought a new one last month. The rv dealer said they sterilized it but they still drove it over to me so no longer sterile. I had a company called sterile knights come over and spray every inch and inside all drawers and cabinets etc. it cost $300 but its well worth it to start with a clean rv. After that it’s up to me and my wife to keep it clean with Clorox etc. it’s not the same as the hospital grade cleaner that company used but it’s essentially the same responsibility we all have keeping our homes extra extra clean during this time.
Gawd...I sure HOPE SO! Please...you folks go back to cruise ships and the sky-tube...PLEASE....free up those campsites! I hope there is a mad dash exit for a lot of newbies...YES!
I’m so glad I saw this, my husband and I were looking at purchasing one before the end of the year. You make a lot of good points. We may just want to wait for now until the market is better.
You nailed it !!! Basic economics people. The dearship we bought our camper from called us and offered to buy our camper back for more then we paid. When that happens you know there is a bubble. We are waiting for it to pop. Stay safe and happy travels
Currently RV-less. In the meantime, adding a fire pit and pondless waterfall/stream to my backyard, and giving it an old resort vibe. If I can’t go there, I’ll bring it here. haha
Hello, I’m Steve, brand new subscriber, saw you on Andrew Steel video yesterday, been following him long time. I’m 59 yrs old, widower and getting ready for retirement soon. I’m currently in San Diego for past 27 yrs, but I’m moving back to Indianapolis this year. Thinking about buying land and building home, however, I have really fallen in love with Rvs, been watching videos for over a year. So I’m thinking about buying a nice bus Newell, kind of price tag, and then parking it on some land I own in Indy to live in year round, vs building home, then also have it to travel around country with family/friends. I really enjoy your videos too. Will be long time subscriber. Take care
First: great videos, just subscribed. I'd started looking at Pursuit 27xps over 1.5 years now. It's a low end, class A gas model. The RV show price was $69k for early 2020 model. Now new discounted 2021 model sale price is $82k.
Before retirement I sold RV’s for several years and I assure you that November and December are the BEST time of the year to buy- if the dealer has what you want and you experience a cold winter. Sales in those 2 months are drastically down and their year is ending so they will take almost any offer. Our location in Colorado would sell 100-125 units monthly during spring/summer and 20-30 in November/December. January starts show season, new models and higher base prices from all the new stuff being added to the new year models.
Thanks for the heads up William.
Izzy
I just bought a Class B used. Was able to take my mom out for 5 nights camping after having her on lockdown since March. We use our class B to go do take out and eat right there at the restaurants. I’m using the van to sleep in since college plans for my child changed due to Covid. It’s given us some safe freedom to travel. I’m sure I paid a little higher than what will be the case once Covid ends, but there really seems no end in sight at this time. Being on lockdown is stressful, I feel the investment I’ve made is worth it as this will be a new normal for awhile. And if you have family who are in the higher risk category; this is a great way to travel safely with them. My mom doesn’t need to set foot in a public restroom or store and most of her contact with new people is outdoor and socially distanced thanks to the van. So, for me and my family buying now was the perfect time and we are using our van to the fullest.
You're absolutely right about being the safest way to travel right now. Couldn't agree more! So happy you can have your mom enjoy these great experiences. Enjoy and safe travels! - MJ
Im planning the exact same thing. My mom is 70 and she's been on lockdown since March.
What did you end up getting? I recently fell in love with vandwelling and always like to know what works for people. Time spend with family is precious! Happy travels 😊
@@crippyandkaatje I got a 2018 Winnebago Travato 59G. I LOVE IT!!
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Thanks a lot for the tips! I've never imagined that the prices of both brand new and used
RVs would skyrocket simultaneously, not thanks to this pandemic! Prospective RVers would
just have to wait for the right time to purchase.
Yep, if people can wait, it's probably a good idea. Hopefully things normalize sooner than later. 🤞 - MJ
You may have just saved me a bundle of $! Thank you. As a novice RV person and renter, I was looking into making my first purchase this year. Your video is timely and makes sense. It won’t stop me from looking, that’s an addiction all it’s own, but it will help me make a better choice about spending my money.
Great Pam good luck on your search.
Izzy
I said it many times, in a few months we will have many slightly used RVs for sale, then it will be a good time to buy. Thanks MJ & Izzy.
Absolutely. Will definitely be a great time to go shopping for a highly reduced barely used unit. :) Thanks Rejean for watching as always! - MJ
I disagree to a point and that point being...most new rv's that sell depreciate so hard that most people are upside down so bad when they try to unload it, they can't sell it for a good price.
Haylett Rv is already selling slightly used 2020’s and used 1-3 yr old rvs. Most of the time it’s because the owners don’t have time or are done camping.
Endofsociety....not saying this to be argumentative at all, but most of your 2020's being sold at a dealership are most likely rentals.
We've casually started looking. We had a 5th wheel we had to sell due to health challenges, but are ready to get back in. I'm really hoping next spring will see a market adjustment and that dealers/folks will be trying to unload excess/unwanted inventory.
I’m one of those people!!! Lol!!! Just bought a 2021 Rockwood Mini Lite 2509S last week!!!! Paid 26K for it, had to drive 15 hrs to get it!!! Was on the dealer lot for less than 24 hrs, bought it after I was sent the photos!!! I don’t regret it one bit!!! I did research this for many months/years, I do understand that under another time period I would had paid less, but no regrets so far. We are on the first trip with it in Maine. Needless to say Everything was fully booked for the Labor Day weekend, but found an amazing spot for a reasonable price. Inventories are beyond low, anything “special” or sought after is impossible to get until at least November!!! Do your research and maybe wait till Winter early Spring!!! We jumped the gun but are extremely happy that we did!!!
DavArroyo7242 enjoy your new purchase and thanks for sharing.
Izzy
DavArroyo7242 When it falls apart don’t try to sell it to me!!
It won't fall apart, we have a Flagstaff 25bds, 4 yrs old, minimal issues, it's a clone to the rockwood. Enjoy!
Enjoy the fruit of your labors of research and time... be safe be well HAVE FUN
Our Mini-Lite 2509S goes into (hopefully) production next week. The dealer will get it 2 weeks afterwards and the dealer will spend a few days inspecting the coach. Delivery on 10/23. We put the order in mid-July after we sold our 10yr old pop-up. Now they are bring shipped as 2021.5 models. Depending on what is on your 2509S, I was getting quotes in July for 28K and 30K, so 26K not a bad deal. We went Rockwood (Forest River) because we have friends that have a Rockwood going on 12yrs old now. My brother-in-law bought their camper 2-3 yrs ago (not a Forest River trailer). Last year had an issue with a slide motor, an electrical issue, and a couple months ago an issue with the roof. I don't believe quality is going to go down right now. If the manufacture has high quality standards, they will continue those high quality standards. We loved the 2509S when we first saw it. Perfect size (can fit in smaller sites my in-laws 35ft trailer can't), has everything we wanted to plan longer trips we couldn't do in the pop-up comfortably (and we did week long trips in the pop-up, a high wall unit 25ft extended). 4 more weeks figures crossed.
My girlfriend and I (57 and 60) have only briefly thought about RVing.We have watched many of the most popular RV channels and enjoy all of the positives and negatives they share about their experiences in the ''lifestyle''. We have decided(without much persuasion) that it just isn't worth the hassle. This was an outstanding video,..so much honesty and insight..and,..we have been binge-watching your other videos,....just for fun and information purposes.
Awesome thank you! Glad you found us. - MJ
Thank you for the cold splash of reality! My original plan was to buy in January but lately with the limited availability I have felt more pressure to buy now. After watching this video, I’m going to go back to my plan. I’ll be happier waiting for the RV I really want instead of buying something now just because it’s available. I’m enjoying your videos, thanks again!
Wait it out until you find what you want. Thanks for watching and the comment.
Izzy
I purchased mine June 2019 and I have been enjoying it ever since. I put 20,000. Miles on it. I could not stay in California with all the restrictions I went to RV parks spent a month at a time having a really good time. Last winter enjoyed Florida a lot ended up in Texas. Then got home last week June 2021. I only came in for 3 months here or there. I am so thankful for this time.
Great to hear!
I got a 2003 24' Class C Four winds used RV in great shape with inspection from the seller for $7,500. Got it in March and wife cant stop going on trips lol. I see this as Gods sign to head for the hills when SHTF.
LOL Enjoy! - MJ
Thank you. We’re relying on people in the know, like you, to help us out. Really appreciate the straight talk. I’m shopping for my first ever, and I really, really need this kind of advice.
Great glad the video helped thanks for watching.
Izzy
We went to buy a new rv and they are being pushed out so fast still that several issues with brand new rvs. Please be super patient as so many are getting fixed its gonna take a bit of time if you take it to your dealer to get the warranty to repair.
I’ve wanted a camper van for about a year. Knew exactly the rig I wanted, pulled the trigger in May and flew from Jersey to Iowa to take possession at end of July. Very happy so far...will let you know if the wheels fall off in the near future!
Thanks for sharing and good luck on your purchase.
Izzy
Boy, is that the truth! I love looking online because dreaming is all I can do at this point. No one has anything to sell and so there's nothing to even look at. Another great video that I always appreciate from you guys. Keep up the good work; you seem to be looking out for us!
Bob Ellis hi Bob thanks for watching and the comment.
Izzy
2012 Forest River Sunseeker 3170DS For Sale 20k miles 49K
Thank you for sharing your knowledge on RV, we are looking to buy our first RV, and we will definitely follow you’d advise-a few months wait isn’t a big deal.
Happy to help. Thanks for being here! - MJ
Baby Boomers are retiring now and want to get into the next phase of their lives. If you want to get a RV now, then get one. Time is not reversible. Do it and have fun. We just bought one and look forward to using it.
Congrats on your purchase and enjoy.
Izzy
Boomers have been retiring for 20 years
Absolutely great points you guys have brought to the table. Renee and I have noticed a lot RV'ers out on the road and we correlate it to the fact that a lot of people are not traveling internationally. Definitely causing a spike in RV living within the states. We are blown away that an RV park is charging an extra fee for kids!? Curious to see how many other RV parks start maybe jumping on that train to increase some profits. Great information, thank you both! - Kyle and Renee
Yes guys they are charging for everything. It’s something we will keep in the back of our mind when the well runs dry for these places ;)
Thanks for watching and the comment
Izzy
I agree 100% with you guys. Was looking at purchasing a super C I’m going to wait till the end of the year. You guys are spot on all of the places we went throughout the Western US, now we can’t even get in there for a year, before we just drive in. I owned Miramar 34.2 triton v10 very reliable done a ton of work to the coach, and repaired all the factory defects, sad that something made in America is so damn cheap.
Hello, I have been wanting to move & down size. Turning 65, with 3 dogs, I have been looking at my options for over a year!.. Reading, and Reading, to figure which way to go! Then all of this “pandemic” stuff hit! OMG!.. like you said, I have been watching the craziest things happen with the escalation of all the RVing going on!... I just recently went camping with friends, we totally as you had mentioned, lucked out and got the last spot in a camp ground, with only electrical “offered”..even though it had the dump available it was capped off. (Have no idea why)..so had to tow to dump site halfway threw our camping time, for dumping..not to convenient. I think you’re spot on with your advice! I am kinda even reluctant on even buying the ones that will come on the market in a couple years or year, from those that are tired of RVing, after thinking of what you said about just basically slapping them together, (basically)..you know what I mean... what are your thoughts on that??..would you wait... till it slows way down..... any advice??.. Luckily..I am not in a super rush.. I totally get where people are coming from... with everything going on.. but, am amazed at how many RV’s I’ve seen just around my place.... and they just are sitting going no where... kinda sad... anyway, Great advice! Appreciate your updates and honesty!
We would not buy new in this current market. You will likely not get the deal you could get when inventory stabilizes.
There are good used coaches out there if you look. Thanks for watching and the comment.
Izzy
We started RVing 5 years ago, it is so different now. We used to be able to take off on a Friday evening after work, drive 45 mins to an hour away with no reservations and pull in a spot. Every year it has gotten harder and harder to do that. This year, forget about it! A couple times this year I have arrived at a campground that used to be pretty open, I arrived on a Wednesday just after lunch and there was only one site available. I noticed the rest of the week and weekend any campsite never stayed open for more than 20 mins. It had gotten to be almost too stressful and not fun this year. We used to go every other weekend, now it's every couple of months.
You do see a lot of the paper temp plates where people just bought a new RV or trailer and you can tell from the way the trailer is hooked to the truck these people clearly are new and don't know about weights and limitations, pretty dangerous in some situations.
Yes I agree there are a lot of people on the road now. Thanks for sharing.
Izzy
Check out Racoon Haller rv park. My uncle owns it and it’s a fabulous place with plenty of spots due to him and my cousins constantly adding full service spots
We would love to have you @ Park Place RV Ranch located in Tolar, TX. Use reference code: 8888 😁
Agreed. It’s crazy out there.
@@DivineSublime22 Hi Velvet, can you tell me how it is today? Is it overrunned with the new migrants. Hey your name is my sisters name. I have yet to see someone else with that name. Kudos.
We're newbies closing in on retirement, who started doing research last year, and started shopping in January 2020. We couldn't come to a decision on which of the 8 or so models we were interested in, so we decided to take a break. I happen to go online in April to see if I could find one of the models we had not been able to see in person, and found one about an hour away. We went to see it, fell in love, and a few days later signed the papers. Luckily this was a 2020 model, (Keystone Ultra Lite 260UML) built before CoVid hit, and have only had a couple of minor cosmetic issues that we fixed ourselves. We've also seen on various FB RV groups, the issues people are having, and feel so lucky we bought when we did!!
Good luck on the search.
Izzy
We’re searching now. Wanted an RV for years, but are just now able to buy one. Thanks for your advice. We’re newbies and will take our time!
I do not have an RV but have been an avid UA-cam follower of a number of RV UA-camrs. It's pretty clear to me that RVing (FT Boondockers are a different breed) is expensive and requires a lot more work than just getting in the car, driving someplace, and getting a hotel. I don't look at RVing as being less expensive at all. I think some people will grossly underestimate the cost and planning required to RV. My timeline is more in the next 2-3 years when prices stabilize. I appreciate the post - you did a great job of identifying a topic no one is talking about. Nice job!
Thank you! We are very happy RVing but always like to discuss both sides of everything. Thanks so much for watching and the kind words! - MJ
Some say -- Boats are a hole in the water you throw money in... some say RV's are the land equivalent
This is also happening with all vehicles, firearms and ammunition. I'm a firearms instructor, I would not buy a gun or ammo now. I also wouldn't buy any vehicle now. I get trolls trespassing on my apartment complex leaving notes on my 10 year old Jeep offering to buy it. C-19 has really shown what supply and demand economics is all about. If you're thinking about selling something that's greatly appreciated in value because of C-19 ask yourself this, "What am I going to replace it with if it's an item I require to live?" I get people e-mailing and calling me all the time about how to get a gun. I tell them they missed the boat. The time to buy a gun and stock up on ammo was before disasters like C-19. Same thing with buying any vehicle. Best thing to do is to keep what you have and take care of it. Basic maintenance costs haven't changed. If the vehicle runs well and properly taken care of, ride it out then buy when the economic crash happens after C-19 is over with or it at least becomes endemic like the flu. Once C-19 is over with or at least becomes endemic and a nuisance like the flu the price of everything will go through the floor.
My wife and I are fortunate... We bought a 2013 Class A Diesel Pusher directly from the owner(1st) for about $10k under NADA not including add ons !
Wow that’s great .. good for you! Enjoy! - MJ
Bought just over 1 yr ago, glad we bought when we did, great information and hope people listen to your very good reasons not to buy now
richard kemna we ordered our current motorhome in 2018 and picked up in 2019. Glad we did as the market is not for buying now. Thanks for watching and the comment.
Izzy
When all of this covid is over we are going to see the used RV markets explode. Alot of people who bought RVs do not understand how much work it is to take care of a RV. 😎😎😎
100% agree we read it in the forums regularly. Thanks for watching and the comment.
Izzy
I agree that's when I will be looking to upgrade to something larger
I agree! Lots for sale soon.
LOL It's never going to be "over". Today, we still catch the SAME virus that caused the Pandemic of 1918-1920; it's called the H1N1 virus, and we often get vaccinated for it (or a portion of it along with another virus) each flu season.
Heck, even the plague hasn't gone away, you just rarely hear about it anymore; a woman just came down with it recently in Tahoe around July 4th, and now there are signs up there all over the place where she was walking her dog and was bitten by fleas.
CoVid-19 is likely here to stay, only we will eventually develop a vaccine for it (within the next 4-10 years, hopefully sooner). The vaccine for H1N1 wasn't developed until 1940, I believe?
Right now, they're doing all this so that our healthcare centers around the globe don't collapse under the weight of everyone getting sick all at once and not having enough respirators and frontline employees (who also come down with this stuff) to take care of us.
SYNOPSIS: This is all about preventing the healthcare system from becoming overwhelmed by widespread community spread of the virus. CoVid-19 is here to stay, and it's going to mutate....and mutate again....and then that mutation will mutate. This is why we need a vaccine (and the vaccine doesn't prevent people from catching it, it just helps you SURVIVE IT when you do by making the symptoms less severe).
I know people who spend $10k per year for a vacation. So...$600 a month for an RV payment may not seem like a lot. It is not until they get it home and realize maintenance costs, insurance, travel costs etc.. and how much they are under water once they drove off the lot. Then the time it takes to maintain it. A $10K vacation takes a day to plan and the time to to take it. A RV is a commitment.
Thanks for the video. My wife and I are researching the market for an RV - I will be retiring within the next 5 years. We have thought of purchasing this year, but as you said COVID and little inventory - we live in MD. Several RV Dealerships have inventory, but not alot. Thanks again. We will probably wait another 6 to 9 months before we do purchase. We plan on RVing full time since I will be retired.
Awesome- good luck to you both! - MJ
Oh my gosh I just found your UA-cam and I am so grateful for both of you. I have been really praying on creative solutions on how to simplify our lives as empty-nesters and we really want to get an RV and sell our home so we can pay off debt and be able to live a simple life. It is almost February 2022 does this video still apply today or is this the time to start looking to buy?
Prices are still quite high and build quality is still an issue for some manufacturers
I've had 9 rvs. 5 tow behinds, and fifth wheels.
I am ready to acquire another, new, fifth wheel. However, I feel it is in my best interest to hold off until spring of 2021.
I would agree with your assessment. Thanks for watching Terry
Izzy
Thanks guys! This reinforced our decision to pile up the cash for “when the COVID -19 newbies realize an RV is a burden to them...” In the somewhat distant future (post COVID) there should be a lot of “slightly used, mostly stored” RV’s hitting the market.
We just finished up the Tampa show. What we saw were less RV’s vs 2020 and significantly higher prices. Save your $ and by late this year I think you will be getting a much better deal.
Thanks for watching and the comment.
Izzy
I would be concerned about buying a "Slightly used, Mostly stored" RV. The newbie that found out "it wasn't for them" may have had no clue on what to do with it.. Proper Black/Gray drains, wrong TP being used, Not setting the awning properly during a rain storm, leaving the roof vent open while in outside storage, etc, etc....
@@tomckay1 All of Trumps golf courses have lots of parking, he wants your donations to him directly! Just show up.
@@poolshooter1229 🤔 not sure how that reply applies to my comment....
Normally agree with you but not this time. You’re looking at it mostly from a financial transaction. You could wait years until this pandemic is over and prices stabilize. You’ll probably pay a premium for used but you can still shop and get what you want. How much of the RV experience will you miss because you waited. New RV’s can be built and purchased at pre-pandemic levels. I agree with you on quality concerns. RV’s are complex by their nature and they are dependent on an extensive supplier network. This will probably break down at some point.
It’s all personal choice. If it was strictly financial no one would buy an RV. They are a terrible investment speaking from a financial view point. What we are trying to say is this is not the ideal time to buy and the reasons why. If someone watches the video and still buys an RV at least they have another view point outside an RV sales person. Thanks for watching and the comment.
Izzy
I feel that the pandemic is the least of of Americans’ problems if we get the Socialists in the White House. If you had financial problems under the 8 Obama years - you ain’t seen nothing yet!
I feel that the pandemic is the least of Americans’ problems if we get the Socialists in the White House. If you had financial problems under the 8 Obama years - you ain’t seen nothing yet!
This RV buying splurge is directly the result of the forced COVID-19 shutdown and being quarantined for at least 2 weeks with family, whether sick or well. We don’t usually spend that much time with family, and now that things are opening up, people are going crazy to escape confinement!
Totally natural!
I concur with Rick...supplier network has already been impacted...also if you need a respite from others, it is a place to stay, even if it is in your driveway. However covid is not the only variable to consider leading to possible societal collapse.....consequently could be "bug out" shelter
Thank you for your honesty! My husband and I are Baby Boomers, we are basically empty nesters with exception of our 130lb shepherd/malamute mix, Arthur. The past two years have been difficult loosing my parents so we finally have some time and had been seriously considering looking at purchasing a class C RV, we’ve been watching Matt’s RV show. However, we had our reservations and after watching your video, I believe we were correct in our thoughts to wait for awhile. Thank you again for a informative and honest perspective!! We will keep watching!
So sorry about your parents. :( I’m glad you find our info helpful and I wish you the best in your search! -MJ
Thank you for your opinions. I am in the process of getting ready to sell my home to RV full time. I’m luckily in no hurry and your video just cemented my thoughts around waiting to buy my RV until the RV market turns back into a buyer’s market. Appreciate the video!
Thanks for watching and good luck on your search.
Izzy
It's a bad time to buy anything. Low production, high sale price, unstable job market. It's a good time to sell stuff.
It’s crazy some people are making more money than ever and some are out of jobs. But I do agree not a good time to buy an RV. Thanks for watching and the comment.
Izzy
I think we are just going to start to see a shift in jobs. Many of us essential workers never stopped our ordinary routine. Here in Indiana we never completely shut down. Mandatory masks and everything back up and running.
For sure.
I decided to live in an rv because it’s much easier to pay for than an apartment right now... no late fees either.
@@t.f.3228 if you pay cash up front, yes. I have some one at work who is retiring in 2 years and he has a strict cash budget of $75k max USD. He sold his home years ago and stashed the money away.
Yes to all of this. I’m in a self built campervan for the past three years and was hoping to make a change to a truck camper in the next year or two. Hopefully, prices will be more reasonable for both truck and camper. One of the main reasons for the switch is to increase Boondocking and get away from masses. Thanks for post. Always timely material on your channel. 👍🏼
Thanks so much for watching. Appreciate it and good luck to you! - MJ
Just bought a new 2021 keystone sprinter 3530DEN... We love it... Got a pretty good deal too... Just need to be smart about it and keep looking...
Congrats David.
Izzy
I have been planning on full time living in a 4 season camper for a couple of years now. I'm 66, have a property where I keep my horses, divorced for over twenty years, just want to dump the house and live there. At first when covid started I thought it might be time to act. Then I started researching and I agree with this video of yours, it's best to hold off, try to pick up something when people that jumped in, don't like the lifestyle or whatever want to move back into the house. I subscribed because I do think you have the knowledge to give the right advice. Thanks a lot, I'll be watching
Thanks so much Richard. We appreciate it! - MJ
We have a 1967 Aladdin that we are restoring and we ground down the roof top to the metal and reapplied the weather coating and in a rain squall no leaks. We now have to do the rest, but I look forward to knowing what we have done to the rig from top to bottom and is going to perform well. Only if I sold everything would I consider a big 5th wheel but that would be more than 10 years or more down the road,if ever. I’m happy with small. Ours is 19 ft, with shower and bathroom. So that’s the route we would take to love the one your with.
Awesome enjoy the restore and thanks for sharing.
Izzy
We purchased ours class a diesel the first week of April when the dealers were panicked. They cut a great deal for us since no one was buying. I thought we were crazy as well.
Super glad we did, I am sure it still depreciated but much less then normal. I would say we saved 10-15%.
I also believe there will be several good used RVs next year and the big dip will happen in 2022. When the dust settles.
I do think now more people have discovered the RV lifestyle they will prefer it to hotels and airplanes. I cringe thinking about airports and staying in a hotel room now.
Hey Craig. Yes, I think people aren't sure what next summer will look like yet so RVing may still be the safest form of vacation next year for people also. Glad you got a good deal! 👍 - MJ
Increased production ALWAYS means poor quality build. The focus is to “get em out the door”, let the Dealer make all the repairs. Don’t let your excitement cause you to make mistakes.
We agree thanks for watching and the comment.
Izzy
Mac Richardson good idea.
RVs are notorious for poor quality anyway.
If you expect the dealer to make it right, you better be the dealer
I was Lucky, got my nearly new 2020 in early June at a reasonable price just before market went ballistic. I love it, no regrets here, I hope to keep this one for a Long time !
Awesome. Enjoy and safe travels! - MJ
Hi guys…and thank you so much for these awesome videos! Learning so much. We ordered a Class C in 2018. We love it, but want to move into a Class A since we are now both retired. I too had a life changing event, now being a cancer survivor. We want to do some long term trips and see so many places. We don’t have to be at work on Monday morning. We just looked at a Class A. It is a 2022 Newmar Baystar 3609. But, the sales price doesn’t drop that much. Maybe 10%. Not sure of the discount percentage that we could EXPECT on a Newmar. Nothing wrong with our coach, other than not much storage for 2 people that want to travel longer distances for longer times. A month or two out at a time. We are aware of the economy surrounding the RV market. And, we can wait, but it’s about timing and time is good right now for upgrade…just the price is unknown. It appears that the curve may be shifting. I would really appreciate your thoughts.
You guys are right on the money. Wait a few months and the market will be flooded with RVs sold by countless people who had no idea of what they were getting into and thought it was a great idea to get an RV to travel during the coronavirus. There was a time when the best deals on relatively new used RVs were in Florida after the winter season. People bought them in many areas, drove to Florida and decided they didn’t want to drive their RV back and just wanted to sell it. You’re also the only folks that tell it like it really is. As experienced RVers, ourselves, we know you are damn right and damn honest.
We agree thanks for watching.
Izzy
I traded up today and I got exactly what I was Looking with an outstanding deal...and it’s a 2020..precovid ..I’m a happy Camper 😂👍🏼
Awesome congrats.
Izzy
too late! already did, it's sitting in my driveway and I took it out this weekend. This money was ear marked for a kitchen remodel, but decided otherwise. I'm retiring, have plans and want to get out there, have grandkids across country and want to spend time with them, tired of a long flight and kicking someone out of their bed, so I'll just pull up in my RV now. I probably paid more for my 'new to me' used RV, but I like it, it's been well taken care of, have all the books for it and my mechanic gave me the thumbs up. Just got back from taking it out this weekend my first trip, it went well, I get back and see this, wow. I have no regrets.
Thanks for sharing and enjoy your new adventure.
Izzy
Denise Inight I just sold my home and bought a new 2020 Ram 3500 Longhorn dually to carry the Host Mammoth truck camper and now can’t find a camper, the one I want anyways. May have made the biggest mistake in my life . Idk
Awesome. Enjoy.
Donna Ocasio Hang in there, Donna.
@@donnaocasio45 I was so, so close to doing the exact same thing. When COVID-19
a RV is a perfect mobile bunker. that's why they are selling out. it's not for camping.
We agree. Thanks for watching.
Izzy
That is one of the reasons I will be keeping my RV.
Bought a house in Mississippi. Was going to sell my Casita. After the first hurricane scare, we are keeping our Casita for escaping and if needed, temporarily housing.
No disrespect....but I don’t see how they are good mobile bunkers. A bunker is almost by definition stealthy, RVs stand out. Bunkers have thick walls or other measures that make them hard to open or shoot thru...RVs don’t. Bunkers are largely fire proof, RVs are not. Bunkers can’t be tipped over. I agree RVs are great emergency/natural disaster bug-out vehicles, and a better bunker than a car or motorcycle.
Wow! What a gutsy video! Thank you for your input on the RV industry! I am glad I purchased my RV in 2017. I might be able to get back what I paid for it originally, if I decided to sell.
Thanks for watching and good luck if you sell! - MJ
Your right, best to rent for your special trip . Now, I’m 74 with severe arthritis in spine. I drive 3 ton GMC all terrain to make up for my disability. For the cost we can stay in the nicest resorts with room service and laundry. RVs are fun, but the old way is best unless your off road. Thanks for your refreshing ideals Michigan
I agree. Staying in hotels is cheaper than owning an RV.
Thanks for watching and the comment
Izzy
I've been binge watching UA-cam s over the past couple of weeks with people living mostly full time in all sorts of rigs. I've decided it's not for me. I'm not a mechanic, it's a lot of work, expensive, inconvenient and uncomfortable for what I am looking for - getting away into the open spaces. I've decided that since I don't need to do that full or even part time, but just once in awhile, I'll just drive my car and get a tent or bnb and maybe just sleep in my car on occasion. It's been really fun getting a peak into that lifestyle/world though, and I can sure see why people do it. I may pull together a little camp prep/cooking set up, though, to avoid restaurants.
THanks for watching and sharing your plans
Jarhead just retired on Monday and we are back in the USA. We are hotel and Airbnb hopping until we find our RV. going to look tomorrow. The one we want is in high demand.
Congrats on your retirement and good luck on your search.
Izzy
tons here in AZ along with 115 degrees but hey
I called my dealership to inquire about a specific Airstream i have wanted for years and they had the exact model, with all the extras I wanted, coming off the showroom floor. It felt like a message from God. I bought it based on online pictures only.
Thanks for sharing and enjoy your new Airstream.
Izzy
Congrats on making a years long dream come true! I'm about to buy my first vehicle to enjoy part-time #vanlife. Happy travels 😊
I have started researching, so far have one dealer that has been great, he knows we are not buying until next spring.....hopefully. He does call when he gets something that fits what we are looking for. He seems patient and willing to help us. I hear what you are saying and I hope we have success. Not gonna lie, I’m a little nervous about making the wrong decisions. We have talked about this well before Covid.
Awesome good luck on your search. Thanks for watching.
Izzy
You nailed it! Your video is very timely. My wife and I have been back and forth to the dealership looking at class A diesels and in some of the largest RV dealerships in Central Florida, there were only four available (of the kind of RV we were looking for). All new, nothing pre-owned. And there was almost zero negotiating with them. I have been telling my wife it's best to wait. I was talking to the salesperson only an hour before we watched your video this evening with a plan to visit him again tomorrow to look at the RV. After your video, we made the "adult" decision to go with our gut and to wait. I am hoping in the coming months when some of those that are no longer interested are willing to get rid of it and the inventory is back to before where you can negotiate. Thanks again!
Edward McGowan if there is no negotiation it’s not the time to buy you will be certainly over paying. Wait it out and you will save a lot of money. Thanks for watching and the comment.
Izzy
Hello everyone,
As I am reading all the posts from the last few hours, I am amazed by the responses to the video. We too were having issues finding the perfect unit with no success. So as we're looking at a Grand Design models. We join the GD owners group on FaceBook and began asking direct questions and the response was overwhelming with great information. So, here I go.. if you are looking at an older model..fine. If you want someone else poopy tank with a stinky slinky, that's great. For us, we printed a spec sheet of the options that we wanted and what was standard as well. Printed and saved the spec as a doc. Called a few dealers that were recommended by the group and summited the specs to those dealers only. Out of 8 dealers, 6 responded and quickly down to two. a few days later. We had the deal we wanted from Norm Wheelen at CoachLight RV. They are located in Missouri and we live temporarily in Texas, moving on back to Washington State soon. We also need to buy a truck to pull our baby "Journey" with us as well. We got a great deal on a NEW unit as things are changing in the RV market before the fall. Please folks DO NOT ON IMPULSE! Get all the gear that you need, I mean everything, pack lightweight and then get your baby. Stay positive and relax as you may be a future full-timer. You ask, what did you buy. We bought a Grand Design 5th wheel. I am excited and scared S#$%less too.
Thanks for sharing your valuable info. Good luck with your GD! - MJ
I am surprised you found a truck. I was just glancing at inventory where I normally buy my trucks and they had 1 F350 Platinum and only 4 in F250. This is a dealership that normally would have 20-25 Platinum's in F250 and at least 8 to 10 in the F350. This is a large dealership and they don't have much on their lot even in lower end XLT packages.
@@fuzzywigglebutt I would try ordering the truck, years back Ford only required a 500.00 deposit to order and wait time was around 2
Thanks a bunch for sharing Shane. I’m in the same boat almost, I’m looking for a new truck and new fifth wheel. Have been really focusing on the grand Design reflection 150 series. Never owned a truck or trailer before.
I'm one of those people who have always loved tiny homes. Two of my plans this year got cancelled. I have been to hotels since COVID19 and they are skipping the free breakfast ( box lunch) the pools and spas closed, the tv and computer in lobby unavailable and the exercise rooms closed. I am seriously considering buying an SUV. Turning in my Prius and buying a small camper. (Under$20k) but when you said that most of the time you can get at least 25-40%off, I think I'll wait.
25% would be standard. We got 28% off our Newmar when we ordered in 2018 with very little negotiation effort.
Thanks for watching and the comment.
Izzy
We just sold our 5th wheel and bought a smaller trailer and so happy with our new buy!!!
That’s great. Congrats and safe travels!! - MJ
New to the channel. I’m employed with the airlines. Next year we will be taking pay cuts. So we will wait and gather info while we wait for the right time to buy. We will be upgrading from a C to an A. Thanks so much for taking the time to do these informative videos.
Thanks Doug hopefully the airline industry improves next year.
Izzy
Searching and waiting to buy our first. Everything you shared made so much sense. I know someone who just bought one and is having the craftsmanship issues you mentioned. Thank you for sharing an honest opinion.
Thank you Debbie. Wait it out a few or look for a good used. Thanks for watching.
Izzy
Many people are not buying them _for the lifestyle_ ... it is called: *survival* .
Thanks for sharing.
Izzy
Agree - not the lifestyle. Your new or used rv is called your new home because you've no longer got a job, business, apartment, or house. I live in western NM by a large mountain. There aren't really campgrounds per se, but people (families) are "camped" all over the place. Not to be discouraging, however, it doesn't look to be improving any time soon...😐
user name thanks for sharing.
Izzy
And it’s awesome they have it as an option.
@@lee.m.506 Our Governor is ruining small businesses here in NM. She’s part of Socialism.
Hey guys.......So, in the last month I've made 3 offers on 3 different RV's. One barely came down, the other two wouldn't budge.....I walked. I won't overpay. I saw another one on the RV Trader yesterday, the first day it was posted. I sent a message asking the owner to call me so we can discuss it over the phone rather than email. I received an email later that night telling me that he received a full price offer and thanked me for my interest! It's crazy out there, and definitely not a good time to buy. I'm a cash buyer, and have plenty of time to wait. I predicted back in May on one of your videos that after the summer, there will be an overflow of RV's after this initial surge. You guys are spot on with what's happening in the market. Unless I can find a deal (which will probably be difficult in this market) I'm holding out. Maybe it slows down in the Fall, maybe Winter, perhaps Spring. I guess we'll have to wait and see. That being said, I have a friend and fellow UA-camr who came out with me last week to checkout one of the RV's I looked at and made an offer on. He brought his camera, made a short 15 minute video, and uploaded it to his channel a day ago. Here's the link: ua-cam.com/video/RA1fUvK40S4/v-deo.html check it out when you have a chance!
Good for you for holding out- very smart move. Good luck once you’re ready to buy. Thanks for watching! - MJ
I'm in the process of buying a 3 year old TT that was used maybe 9 times from a private seller. It's 3 grand under NADA and they are including $1900 in hitch/gear. I had a certified inspector check it out. This seems like a good deal to me. Couldn't find anything new and prices were very high.
Awesome thanks for sharing and enjoy your new trailer.
Izzy
Very wise sage perspective! I would like to RV full-time in retirement starting around 2024. For a year or two as I scope out the perfect retirement location for me. I'm alone and so want to move about the country. Thanks for your insights! 😁
Hi guys. I’ve recently found your channel. We are going to buy an rv, but not until next spring. This is something we’ve been planning to do for a long time. We’ve rv’d before and love it. My husband does what you do for a living and is finally retiring. Yay! Anyway, thanks for this video! Very good!
Congratulations on the retirement. Good luck in your search and happy travels! - MJ
Come to central Texas. Dealers here are full and having to rent open fields to park overflow units.
Wow thanks for sharing.
Izzy
Big time!the RV repair guy is making 500-1000 a day....crazy....nonstop,too.We're in Bastrop🤠
I’m totally with you. Now is NOT the time. Great content as always!
Thanks so much John. 👍 - MJ
After seeking for months, and exhausted of looking, I put a depost down at a dealer because i wanted one so bad, even was willing to settle for buying new and getting reemed (expensive). I was worried about buying used because people might have beaten them up. When the Dealer didn't get it to me fast enough, I went online and searched again. I actually searched for the exact model I wanted and found it on FB market place. A woman who only used hers for 8 weeks and it was only a year old....and MUCH cheaper than the new model. We connected she was awesome, and even left me all the stuff she had in there. Long story. ANyway, I am soooo happy I got it, because it is my backup plan, plus I am a photographer too so I travel around and this will be awesome for me too instead of paying hotels or not being able to because of current events.
Awesome congrats on your purchase and glad you got a good deal. Enjoy and thanks for sharing.
Izzy
My spouse and I have been considering buying an RV. We watched as the prices skyrocketed. Your review is spot on. We will hold off until the market is flooded and we get a GREAT deal. Thanks for confirming the information.
You got it. Glad to help. 👍 - MJ
We made our first class c purchase in January 2020. We have had two different types of RVs prior, so we feel we made a good deal. We have used it several times since our purchase, but try to make sure we are being safe, respectful of fellow campers, and ensure we stay calm and relaxed. We are staying away from the over crowded areas and just get away from the four walls of quarantine. When not out RVing, I use it for zoom calls since the house is a work at home station and a virtual classroom. Stay safe and happy camping. ⛺️🛣🏕🏞
You got in before the pandemic. Glad your enjoying your rig. Thanks for sharing
Izzy
Totally agree with ur 5 reasons. A friend of mine is a salesman. He and I have both hit on the topics u spoke of. Meanwhile all the other entities r taking advantage of the situation.
Yep some will take advantage and make the money. Thanks for watching and the comment.
Izzy
I’ve seen a lot of what we used to call “hangar queens”, RVs they couldn’t get rid of. Something is wrong with them. I’d wait until all these people who panic bought try to sell. FACT: quality is inversely proportioned to production rate. Lots of nubies will be disillusioned and will take the hit to get out. Say late 2021, early 2022. Buy stock in RV Repair companies!
I agree with you completely. Thanks for watching and the comment
Izzy
I think that all the people that purchased these RVs will realize it is not for them and next yr will be flooding the market. I sold mine in March and was going to buy a new one but got Furloughed so will wait!
@@RiverWoods111 Thanks for that. Some of us watch RV videos to get away from the political nutbags and their irrefutable theories. Peeps like you can keep us focused on what is truly important.
@@RiverWoods111 Unfortunately this country is inhabited by too many sheep.
Good work. Endless RVing
As someone who just bought an RV, I can say it’s one of the best times to buy. Interest rates are at historic lows, children are getting older so waiting isn’t an option, and deals are still plentiful even if you are ordering. There are always people who buy in and sell quickly when they find this isn’t for them. This is like vacation properties, boats, etc... I mean if you are a couple who wants to full time and have nothing but time, then may be waiting for the used market to pick back up and find a steal?
Thanks for sharing your experience.
Izzy
Spot on with your comments. I am 2 yr full time in a Newmar Ventana. Production of this coach was during a busy time and huge mistakes were made... caused me a LOT of problems. Getting routine service is months out. Good luck getting a campground - I am routinely put on a standby list. Currently looking for a house... then I'm getting out of this culture. Things are too upside down right now, with no fix in sight. Thanks for your videos.
Sorry to hear that Stephen hope you can get the issues with your rig worked out.
Izzy
Great video. Makes me realize how lucky I am. Just bought a 2009 R-POD151 for $6.5k. It's spotless, no smells but did need a little systems tweaking. Came with new shoes and a new marine battery, and the goofy Olympic swirls were stripped off and replaced with subdued graphics. Had been looking at used Casitas but the prices are totally insane and new ones have a lead time over a year. And the prices for the new ones are just as crazy. The factory quoted me $35k for a new 17' egg. Crazy.
Glad you got a good deal!
Looks like ill have to make do with what I can get. My house is already in contract. I have about 2 weeks left. My wife passed suddenly on Wed and I am going on this trip to continue our dream. Ive found a little Surveyor that will fit me and the dogs well. Time to seek out all the beauty I can find!
Good for you - definitely continue that dream. I am so sorry about your wife. My thoughts are with you. Enjoy your travels with the dogs. Stay safe. :) - MJ
@@EndlessRVing Thank you! Im looking forward to it.
I honestly just bought a 2018 palomino. I’m stationary. My monthly cost is $750 for the lease, and lot rent... palomino is nice. I found it less then a half of a mile away from the spot I decided to park it in. I think that there are deals out there if you’re willing to be patient.
There are always deals to be found if you are a good consumer. Thanks for watching and the comment.
Izzy
It will be interesting to see what happens when things settle down. I am glad I got mine last December !! Great thoughts on the subject for sure, Thanks Izzy and MJ !!
Thank you Don
Izzy
We bought 2013 Forest River Wildwood xlite 261bhxl in mint condition for less than $8000.00, and we love it.
Awesome thanks for sharing.
Izzy
I am looking very carefully for a first RV...I think I’ll wait, thank you guys...will be watching for deals later.
Thanks For watching Kim
Izzy
Who should do an inspection of your RV that you are considering to purchase? If you have the dealer's mechanic inspect it that is like having the fox guard the henhouse.
We would recommend a 3rd party inspector. You can find them here: nrvia.org/locate/. - Thanks for watching! - MJ
All great points! We're doing a lot of online research as well as walking through anything we think could be a contender. Hoping to buy in first quarter of 2021, likely used & inspection will be mandatory.
Yes yes yes to the inspection! Good luck in your search. :) - MJ
I don't know whether to believe it or not, but if you talk to dealers you will find out that ordering a particular model with options at this point might not make it to the dealer until sometime next summer (June/July). I saw where one dealer was mentioning if you want a bunkhouse model your chances will be better. The bunkhouses were the first to go and the manufacturers are pumping them out now more so than non-bunkhouse. I guess the families instead of retired couples are buying most of the RV right now.
Yup. Our home park is packed every weekend with new Rvs. It’s fun watching them trying to back in. 🤣
Hey we all had to start somewhere. ;) Thanks for watching! - MJ
😂😂 I’m sure when I get one, you’ll be crackin up!!😉
We purchased a 2022 Grand Design Momentum 397th. We haven’t had any issues so far. It was an order and we received it in August of 2021.
Thank you for putting this out! Our family is planning to full-time come 2023 and we are doing our homework. I just told my husband last month that when we finally make our purchase we will not be buying anything manufactured in 2020.
Very smart. :) Glad the video helped! - MJ
DA FACTURA ESTE O CONFIRMARE PENTRU FIECARE MASINA AN PARTE .
Very helpful. But, everyone can't be like me :) ...I'm designing right now. I'm building a Travel Trailer. Doing a building cost estimate. I know I can do it. I'm not guessing. If people can build (or re-build) vans and old school buses, I can build a Travel Trailer from scratch. It's all in the fun. Actually, it's kids play for me. Retired... Can't wait to get out there.
Awesome thanks for sharing.
Izzy
We are the couple you are talking about. We have been shopping for years. I’ve seen prices go from 30% off MSRP to now, full retail!
I won’t be purchasing a 2020-21. I’m afraid the “new buyers” will want pay-off, when they decide to unload their Covid buy.
I think 2022 will be our year.
Sounds like a good plan. 👍 - MJ
I have been waiting to buy an RV, retired relatives say to do the motel travel thing, eat out, use laundromat's, it's cheaper in the long run. I like the idea of travel at my own pace, take the dog 🐕, eat out is fine, laundry facilities fine, I want to sleep in my own bed. I'm thinking Sprinter type RV.
Awesome good luck on your adventure.
Izzy
I have learned this first hand, as we shop for a used class A. We are not newbies, but rather to go back to a class A from a 5th wheel. The used market is insanely high. We’ll be waiting at least until spring to get serious.
Thanks for sharing Paul. Good luck on your search.
Izzy
This is great info. We are in the market for our first couples camper but we just can't bring ourselves to pull the trigger on anything right now. I agree there is going to be a HUGE used market next year. In MI where we live we heard you had to reserve camp space a year in advance before covid. I cannot imagine what it is like now. I'm unwilling to spend money at this time to camp in my driveway. We are nearing retirement and I hope this craziness does not hang on too long. Again good stuff and thanks for putting this out. It's nice to hear what we think is going on validated.
Wow a year in advance?! That's crazy. Hopefully, this all goes away sooner than later. Hang in there. 👍 - MJ
Just visited my local dealer, and the lot was seventy percent empty. Told him what I was looking for, and he said it would take about 4 months, and I thought probably will be a lot of quality issues. He said 23,500 for the unit, then I asked how much for tax, title, and such, he said 3,500.00 ... "WHAT"
I left... Instantly.
Wait it out you will be better off. Thanks for watching and the comment.
Izzy
I’ve just started looking into this lifestyle. The more I investigate the worse it looks. Campsite over crowding, expensive repairs, poor quality rig construction, rude neighbors, it all adds up to the opposite of a carefree lifestyle in retirement. I think a comfortable SUV and hotels might be the better way to see the country.
If you want carefree retirement go on a cruise lol (we still love those also!!). Thanks for watching and the comment.
Izzy
If your budget is that small that you cannot afford one under warranty, then it probably does make sense to drive your SUV. Although you are no longer comparing apples to apples. Being able to stop wherever you want to eat your own food in your own fridge raider on your own table or take a nap on your own bed is much different than being stuck in a seat in an SUV for thousands of miles while your spouse is in the passenger seat looking for a good deal on a hotel room that has been cleaned by an employee making $10 an hour. Nothing against that employee but there’s a pretty good chance that you’re not going into a bacteria free room. RV equals sanitary conditions, hotel rooms equal Russian roulette in the current times we live in
Pierre Nak your point is well taken but I guarantee there isn’t a sterile RV unit anywhere in the world. Cleaner than a hotel room? Debatable. Still, I’d rather sleep in my own bed every night. I agree with you there.
We are most interested in Class A travel. I don’t like the idea of a huge fifth wheel or a large Class C. We are in the market in about 2 years. Perhaps by then there will be some great deals on used 2020 rigs.
Hotels have better showers and nicer pools, but don't expect clean sheets or towels. : )
Honestly, I can't imagine the elderly population enjoying the work an RV requires, unless they are so wealthy they can pay people to take care of it for them.
mike73ng I bought a new one last month. The rv dealer said they sterilized it but they still drove it over to me so no longer sterile. I had a company called sterile knights come over and spray every inch and inside all drawers and cabinets etc. it cost $300 but its well worth it to start with a clean rv. After that it’s up to me and my wife to keep it clean with Clorox etc. it’s not the same as the hospital grade cleaner that company used but it’s essentially the same responsibility we all have keeping our homes extra extra clean during this time.
Just wait till everyone who bought one finds out it's not for them, there's gonna be alot of RVs for sale in a few years.
We agree thanks for watching and the comment.
Izzy
This is what I'm waiting for. I'll look to buy one then.
Gawd...I sure HOPE SO! Please...you folks go back to cruise ships and the sky-tube...PLEASE....free up those campsites! I hope there is a mad dash exit for a lot of newbies...YES!
I’m so glad I saw this, my husband and I were looking at purchasing one before the end of the year. You make a lot of good points. We may just want to wait for now until the market is better.
Might get a better deal waiting this out. Thanks for watching and the comment.
Izzy
Maybe we should consider renting one. Any thoughts??
You nailed it !!! Basic economics people. The dearship we bought our camper from called us and offered to buy our camper back for more then we paid. When that happens you know there is a bubble. We are waiting for it to pop. Stay safe and happy travels
Wow! That's crazy. We'll see what happens. Safe travels guys. :) - MJ
I am making myself wait. After watching this I am glad I made that decision! Thanks for the video! 🙏
Good decision. Thanks for watching and the comment.
Izzy
Currently RV-less. In the meantime, adding a fire pit and pondless waterfall/stream to my backyard, and giving it an old resort vibe. If I can’t go there, I’ll bring it here. haha
Sounds like a plan! Have fun! -- MJ
Good call. We are in the market for a class c RV, but the market is not in to us. Sadly we may have to wait a year or so.👍😁🤘🇺🇸
Johnny, You will get a better deal next year. Thanks for watching and the comment.
I have a 3170DS Forest River Sunseeker with 20k miles on sale for 49k! Hit me up!
Hello, I’m Steve, brand new subscriber, saw you on Andrew Steel video yesterday, been following him long time. I’m 59 yrs old, widower and getting ready for retirement soon. I’m currently in San Diego for past 27 yrs, but I’m moving back to Indianapolis this year.
Thinking about buying land and building home, however, I have really fallen in love with Rvs, been watching videos for over a year. So I’m thinking about buying a nice bus Newell, kind of price tag, and then parking it on some land I own in Indy to live in year round, vs building home, then also have it to travel around country with family/friends. I really enjoy your videos too. Will be long time subscriber. Take care
Sounds like an awesome plan. Best of luck to you!
First: great videos, just subscribed. I'd started looking at Pursuit 27xps over 1.5 years now. It's a low end, class A gas model. The RV show price was $69k for early 2020 model. Now new discounted 2021 model sale price is $82k.
Yep dealers getting their cut. Wait it out if you can.
Izzy