MiG-29 in War Thunder: Overhyped or Overpowered?

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  • Опубліковано 17 лют 2023
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  • @roadhigher
    @roadhigher Рік тому +59

    You know Gaijin messed up the Flight Models of 4th Gens when a MiG-29 beats the F-16 in a two circle and the F-16 beats it in a one circle. That's like the most fundamental truth of 4th Gen dogfights but Gaijin found a way to mess even that up.

    • @TheRealHIPER
      @TheRealHIPER Рік тому +3

      I know that the mig 29 was a very good rate fighter and so is the F16, but idk if the f16a is better at rating than the mig 29 I think a C model is the better one

    • @jaek__
      @jaek__ Рік тому +3

      ​@@TheRealHIPERBlk 40 Vipers can reliably beat the MiG-29 in a rate fight far far better than the any A model, the MiG-29 should be beating current in game Falcons in literally any regime right now.
      They aren't for some reason other than the 2C and that's if you're a good Fulcrum driver.

    • @TheRealHIPER
      @TheRealHIPER Рік тому +1

      @@jaek__ that is pretty much my thoughts exactly, my kd in sim is about 4 on the fulcrum and that's just because I out rate all the f16s, otherwise they are pretty tough to fight against

    • @jaek__
      @jaek__ Рік тому +1

      @@TheRealHIPER Yeah it's honestly not even the Falcon over performing, it's just that the MiG-29 is under performing.

    • @canaldopau7226
      @canaldopau7226 Рік тому

      @@TheRealHIPER srly? I lose most of the time against f16s while on 2c, guess i'm just not that good huh

  • @henrywan5196
    @henrywan5196 Рік тому +8

    0:23 my butt clenched a bit seeing that missile

  • @kiubekpl5863
    @kiubekpl5863 Рік тому +7

    4:10 chaff isnt instantly stationary, it loses its momentum given by aircraft that fired it quickly. This means that sensitive (high track rate and switches target instantly) pd radars like mig29 and f16 can get fooled for a split second before chaff slows down enough.

  • @Riesenkalmar-
    @Riesenkalmar- Рік тому +21

    We really appreciate you and the content you produce, so please take it easy if you're feeling burned out. The quality of your content is on par with contemporary War Thunder channels if not better, so you will reach and surpass that 10k mark eventually, I believe in you :)

    • @jpc6485
      @jpc6485 Рік тому

      He is past 10k subs now only 5 days ago if thats what you meant

  • @GeneralLee2000
    @GeneralLee2000 Рік тому +2

    Best jet ingame frfr

  • @Kosmo2
    @Kosmo2 Рік тому +4

    Great content as always Perennial, the Mig-29 is a really nice plane overall from what I've seen. Keep up the great videos!

  • @zayf1760
    @zayf1760 Рік тому +9

    Nice vid mate! Note on the M2K and the Magic: every missile now is very sensitive to flare and funnily enough my experience is that the R60M is somewhat more flare-resistant than the Magic 2. The M2K still is my favorite top tier plane to fly though.

  • @americansoviet21
    @americansoviet21 Рік тому +1

    Great vid! I love watching your vid. 10k soon I promise! You just earned a sub :)

  • @Sarius_
    @Sarius_ Рік тому

    Congratulations on 10k subs

  • @XYVTN
    @XYVTN Рік тому +7

    I personally love the MiG-29, its looks, its performance. The only gripe that I have is that I'd rather have the R-73's (not in the overpowered state it was in on the dev server) over the R60M's just for the sake of it being the "new" thing.

    • @einar8019
      @einar8019 Рік тому

      and i whant my ja 37D to have its aim-120b it had historically but we dont all get what we want

  • @zahnatom
    @zahnatom Рік тому +2

    the lack of chaff resistance is a problem with most if not all PD radars in game, ESPECIALLY the viggen's radar.
    peak gaijin moment

  • @suzybean13
    @suzybean13 Рік тому +1

    Hey PE I love your videos so much!

  • @IllustriousUnknown416
    @IllustriousUnknown416 Рік тому +2

    5:13 that's because Gaijin EXTERMITATED AirRB dedicated players with their scrapping process of the game mode in the last years. There are very few dedicated airRB players, people who actually know what they are doing. 95% of AirRB players nowadays are bombing ground targets while playing their shinny 60 dollar premiuns to grind their CAS aircrafts (or SL) for GroundRB. As sad as it may sound, the main game mode of WT today is GroundRB. AirRB is there only for the grind

  • @rgaeaben8043
    @rgaeaben8043 Рік тому +1

    The MIG 29 is one of favorite jet’s not because it’s good because the way it look’s the gun on it is good

  • @alanamato9382
    @alanamato9382 Рік тому +3

    I stopped playing top tier because I really got bored. my dream was to get the F16 and I have it but I don't have fun with it. now I play games in other br where it is more entertaining for me like the F-86, mig 15, the insufferable Sea hawk. The Spitfire Mk 18 and Mk 22. P51H, TA 152 and BF109 model K are more fun for me

  • @judgemental9253
    @judgemental9253 Рік тому

    ‘The UA-cam meta is to have a hook in the first 5 seconds but I don’t want to waste your time’ is a solid hook😂

  • @numbawan9527
    @numbawan9527 Рік тому

    Haven’t touch top tier jets for a month. Just take out the mig29 and got a couple gun kills. It feels so much better than when it first came out. The radar lock is solid, no longer limits at 9G. Once I got into the f16s’ six, they are dead

  • @noanimal
    @noanimal Рік тому +1

    could you do a video on the mig 23 ml? both the r24r and t feel pretty dang nice on it rn

  • @evo3s75
    @evo3s75 Рік тому +3

    Yea I noticed when playing MLA how the MiG-29 just *can't* be notched, I'm in a perfect notch and it doesn't do anything..
    Can't wait to finally get the German one tho :D

    • @AlRizz187
      @AlRizz187 Рік тому

      me too even though im never gonna play it because im stuck at 4.0 to 5.0

    • @caboose7741
      @caboose7741 Рік тому

      @@perennialE Id figure if they didnt give it to the Soviet one it may not come to the German one, unless they add a new batch of 4th gens with those missiles

  • @Seprun1
    @Seprun1 Рік тому

    cool video, the way you talk reminds me of NileRed lmao

  • @shikikanaz4624
    @shikikanaz4624 Рік тому

    just wondering if you could do a video on the J7E and how its doing now

  • @kiubekpl5863
    @kiubekpl5863 Рік тому +1

    R60M has or had (after recant missile changes) some flare resistance unlike r60. After those said changes it doesnt matter as basicly all missiles are easy to flare anyway.

  • @nathanskupowski4726
    @nathanskupowski4726 10 місяців тому

    0:15 nice gun shots

  • @boltzxz
    @boltzxz Рік тому +1

    You should play the Mirage 2000D and use the AS-30Ls as AIM-54s but with no radar lock.

  • @yeetboiaug9615
    @yeetboiaug9615 10 місяців тому

    With the r60m issue. The only other option was the r73 which people complained about

  • @FJB-Trump4ever
    @FJB-Trump4ever Рік тому

    Will you do a video on the mig 29 radar please?

  • @eddiquettetv1253
    @eddiquettetv1253 Рік тому

    I subbed hope I helped to your 10k count 😊

  • @Hunter_Counts
    @Hunter_Counts Рік тому +1

    There are numerous occasions where I've been in the F-14 locking a Mig29 in a headon with PD, and the thing literally just chaffed the PD lock away.

    • @bobsjepanzerkampfwagen4150
      @bobsjepanzerkampfwagen4150 Рік тому

      Nice can’t wait to get the mig29 to punish you filthy f14 tomgay players

    • @michagysin3082
      @michagysin3082 Рік тому

      I only play arcade air at 11.7 in my f14 i never had problems with hold a lock when the enemy is notching🤣🤣🤣

    • @bigboi5962
      @bigboi5962 Рік тому

      because the MiG-29 has a tiny RCS ingame even though it’s huge IRL

  • @terrence4622
    @terrence4622 Рік тому

    Hey, can you make a vidfeo on the Chinese J7D premium?

  • @oriontraps6882
    @oriontraps6882 Рік тому

    Did anyone see that r27 completely lose radar lock and but still hit the plane while he was dumping flares

  • @Phantom23608
    @Phantom23608 Рік тому

    the r27er is very good, I can fire it when an aim7f/m is at 5 miles and I can still get the kill and survive

  • @dylanhamilton9736
    @dylanhamilton9736 Рік тому

    so close to 10,00k

  • @CircuitCatWT
    @CircuitCatWT Рік тому +1

    It's the goofy aah Miggen-29

  • @IRLFlightSim
    @IRLFlightSim Рік тому

    How do you lock onto the next enemy when you are already locked onto one? like I notice that once that f14 started flaring your radar locked the chaff but you were able to quickly update the radar and switch back to the f14

    • @IRLFlightSim
      @IRLFlightSim Рік тому

      @@perennialEAhhh okay thanks for clearing that up! I struggle still learning the radar system I’m newer to top tier jets and like advanced radars. I just got the F4j and that’s the highest tier aircraft I have at the moment

  • @LewisB3217
    @LewisB3217 Рік тому +2

    Definitely op in its current state, been buffed like 10 times for nothing while the f16 stays gimped, the mig the Germans flew (I think a version earlier than the one ingame was said to have a radar at least one generation behind the US f16 they flew against), but still had superior capabilities in ACM with the archer and off bore launching

    • @toyotawitha20mm35
      @toyotawitha20mm35 Рік тому

      Lmfaoooo the F-16A is not gimped at all, it already has unbeatable dogfight preformance. Yet the MiG-29 still laughably under preforms at low speeds.

    • @LewisB3217
      @LewisB3217 Рік тому +2

      @@toyotawitha20mm35 aoa is gimped, high speed flight performance is gimped, mig pilots just suck, it’s been buffed like 4 times for no reason actually lmaoo

    • @toyotawitha20mm35
      @toyotawitha20mm35 Рік тому +1

      @Lewis Bush as somone who has not lost a single duel in the F-16A against ANY other plane except the F-16A block 10 (not the ADF) I can say that there is nothing gimped about the F-16As fm, you are just bad at dogfights and complain a lot. I don't even have the MiG-29 but I've gone against it enough to know how stupidly it's UNDER PREFORMING, it's low speed turn rate is gimped. I have not lost once to a MiG-29A in a dogfight.

    • @toyotawitha20mm35
      @toyotawitha20mm35 Рік тому

      @Lewis Bush the F-16A already pulls more AOA than it was able to IRL while staying stable. In reality it should pull LESS aoa..it already pulls like 25 fucking degrees of AOA and beats even the M2K in the 1 circle at its cornering speed. You have to be in some next level drugs to say it's AOA is gimped. As for high speed preformance it already does like 11 Gs.

    • @LewisB3217
      @LewisB3217 Рік тому +1

      @@toyotawitha20mm35 bro stop trolling 💀

  • @AverageWTPilot
    @AverageWTPilot Рік тому

    0:23 the missile pops in bottom left

  • @jackozbloke5079
    @jackozbloke5079 Рік тому +1

    It's FM at low speed needs to be fixed, I think that's honestly one of its most glaring flaws, it seriously should be performing better and "floating" a lot more at low speeds. It has such low wing loading yet feels like a brick with two fireworks on it below 400kph.

    • @toyotawitha20mm35
      @toyotawitha20mm35 Рік тому

      In reality the sub 400 knot speed regime is where the MiG-29 should shine in a dogfight.. the MiG-29 should be both much better at the 1 and 2 circles at low speeds. Hopefully when the German MiG-29 comes they will fix the MiGs FM

    • @jackozbloke5079
      @jackozbloke5079 Рік тому

      @@toyotawitha20mm35 kmh, no one but literal pilots or yanks use knots

    • @toyotawitha20mm35
      @toyotawitha20mm35 Рік тому

      @@jackozbloke5079 sorry but knots are simply superior.

    • @toyotawitha20mm35
      @toyotawitha20mm35 Рік тому

      @Jack Ozbloke I'm talking about under 400 KNOTs not kmh. The mig 29 is under preforming at under 680 kmh. Not 400, it needs a significant buff in turn rate at under 680 kmh. (Roughly 400 knots)

  • @crusader-j4126
    @crusader-j4126 8 місяців тому

    MiG-29SMT wants to know your location (its being added with R-73's)

  • @BennetS
    @BennetS Рік тому

    Trust me the mirage 2000 is a very good plane and i recommend you to play ig

  • @olli98wood48
    @olli98wood48 Рік тому

    New subscriber here! You should take some time off if you're feeling burnt out. 10k subscribers will come soon enough. No point doing this if you aren't enjoying it mate

  • @HoChiMeme
    @HoChiMeme Рік тому +1

    Do you know how painful it was to watch you spray with a soviet gun at that su-22

  • @phatmac
    @phatmac Рік тому

    Console player here. Can anyone help me with getting hmd on the mig 29 to work? It'll only work in first person when I use free look

  • @black_thunder2159
    @black_thunder2159 Рік тому +1

    kinda tired of people asking F-16 to not have G-limiter & then saying MiG-29 is OP
    it literally gonna change nothing, they will die the same way, they will black out faster, i have F-16MLU, and removing the G-limiter is just virtually make u feel stronger by changing absolutely nothing, and i still think its the best plane in the game, MiG-29 stand 0 chance against me in dogfight, they might can run away, and i respect that, this is what "working with ur strength & weakness" felt like.
    also R-27ER might be strong but US team always had the upper hand in most games with Phoenixes & Sparrows.
    its time to stop looking at individual performance at top tier, it barely matters in large scale if u're the only one that's strong in the team, its about the team composition, right now US team is dominating 80%, & it makes them essentially, OP.

  • @kaisp2837
    @kaisp2837 Рік тому

    Though is it just me but why does 12.0 take a long time to get into a match

  • @prolordyt9356
    @prolordyt9356 Рік тому

    no one gonna talk about how a missile was surfing with this man 0:22 just to the left of this mans MIG my god that missile was his friend for having a bad proximity fuse Them factory workers need to be yelled at LMAO for making that proxy fuse bad LOL Also cant wait for when ever we get the F-22 in a few years because it can lock its enemies without them knowing and fire

  • @bleachcoughdrops8299
    @bleachcoughdrops8299 Рік тому +1

    can we get R73s lets just get it over with so we can have other missiles

  • @rocketqueen232
    @rocketqueen232 Рік тому

    If you fly the mirage 2000, the 80s skin is compulsory!

  • @pershing307
    @pershing307 Рік тому

    P-61 vid when?

  • @buhosunicolas8334
    @buhosunicolas8334 Рік тому

    could you do a commentary of a prop? quite tired of top tier
    nice video tho

  • @Luis-tj9rt
    @Luis-tj9rt Рік тому

    Do a vid with p51c pls

  • @kpopbob8461
    @kpopbob8461 Рік тому +1

    For all you players saying it’s not good it has the best radar missiles in warthunder atm

  • @Jaeger_89
    @Jaeger_89 Рік тому +1

    Regardless of the plane, top tier is terribly bad ATM. One of the teams just vanishes in seconds and that is extremely boring, no matter which one of them you got thrown into...

  • @agustinf1372
    @agustinf1372 Рік тому

    It will depend on the pilot
    I love it, but, I don't think it's better than Mirage 2000

  • @lukasjaniszewksi1686
    @lukasjaniszewksi1686 Рік тому

    With Rb just being an absolute fuckfest I have resorted to Sim battles

  • @Corefunction_error
    @Corefunction_error Рік тому

    P-61 black widow maybe?

  • @PotchiiPotchii
    @PotchiiPotchii Рік тому +1

    mig29 supremecy

    • @avtomat6471
      @avtomat6471 Рік тому

      🇷🇺💪 - 🇺🇸🏳️‍🌈🍆💩🐷🤡

  • @zackwaffen9210
    @zackwaffen9210 Рік тому

    wouldn't mind seeing some mig-21 content

  • @veganvacuum2751
    @veganvacuum2751 Рік тому

    PLeas fly the T95 it is my favorite plane :)

  • @ruskimofia
    @ruskimofia Рік тому

    Do the g91y

  • @Klonnno
    @Klonnno Рік тому

    After 300 Games in the F16 I started to get burnt out because it’s shit flight performance.
    Just got the Mig 29 yesterday and have about 50 games in it now & it’s insanely better in my opinion.

  • @Reyshkh
    @Reyshkh Рік тому

    why u aint got no crosshair bro

    • @Reyshkh
      @Reyshkh Рік тому

      @@perennialE yeah buy like why guess when you could have a crosshair, also you gotta use less afterburner with the mig29 or use first stage afterburner

  • @ghost0d077
    @ghost0d077 Рік тому

    Bro trust me it's not the premiuem players fault the missles are team killing they are locking onto guys enemys who are near a team ate and the missle when it misses goes for the next available target I have a mig29 and even I noticed my r60m went for a teammate earlier and killed two of them in back to back matches I even checked my replay I was dead locked onto the enemy and yet it still went for the team ate especially now they buffed the seaker head in the warhead it's now when it flared looking for new enemy that's hot and if a teamate is near by its going for them. So many people condem the ML players as if they are intentionally killing there teammates and while they may be true in some cases in 95 percent of the cases it is not that damn r24t is even worst with team killing especially on the ML idk why it just is I got at least 3 TK on the ML the missles are just flawed so it's always funny to hear a person playing awhile complaining about premium players when at the end of the day no premium players no war thunder so which is it? Do you want good new content on war thunder or do you want the same shit you were playing 10 years ago? That's the problem with some of yall you want your cake and you want it to eat it too and I'm sorry to tell you. You can't have everything without give and take so the cash generated by GE and premium planes allows for gaijin to create updates and patches for you so you don't stop playing the game so please for the love of God any old old WT players just stop crying for christ sakes always bitching about something

  • @Anon-yi9yn
    @Anon-yi9yn Рік тому

    Fun fact: this is just an objective opinion. Your own opinion is the one truly matters

  • @classicmac8986
    @classicmac8986 Рік тому +1

    its busted as hell and a absolute pain to play against

  • @StephenLArchers4steve2
    @StephenLArchers4steve2 Рік тому

    Good luck man, hope you’ll still have internet

  • @lucarelli25_68
    @lucarelli25_68 Рік тому +2

    Overhyped AF, it was completly garbage when released, now it's ok but only for the ER's when they work.

    • @derkaiser9881
      @derkaiser9881 Рік тому +1

      Dawg it was so sad on release. The grind to get it was ass, too. At least it's not like the Tornado though. I did that grind over the span of 4-5 hours and ended up with probably the worst jet in the game lmfao

  • @AviationNerd006
    @AviationNerd006 Рік тому

    F-2H-2 video?

  • @norliasmith
    @norliasmith 9 місяців тому

    Overpowered

  • @AverageWTPilot
    @AverageWTPilot Рік тому

    good to know it's not only me that is getting less and less views

  • @RogueBeatsARG
    @RogueBeatsARG Рік тому

    Mirage2000R1 with no guns

  • @X32327
    @X32327 9 місяців тому

    I am ok with mig29 basically is not that op if you know how to play the game to avoid the ''op'' radar missle of mig29 you can just go low to the ground i thing the only problem is because gaijin put it in germany tech tree and there many more players with mig29 now and the only op thing is because many mig29 may will lock you and you can avoid 1 or 2 missle but not 6 or 10

  • @loginhooddloginhoodd2556
    @loginhooddloginhoodd2556 10 місяців тому +1

    blud is nile red

  • @jk0619
    @jk0619 Рік тому

    Comment for the algorithm🫡

  • @ACP_1123
    @ACP_1123 Рік тому +1

    it's incredibly easy to notch the mig 29 though, it has the largest notch gate in game

    • @adrfarling5503
      @adrfarling5503 Рік тому +1

      Bruh no, it often refuses to loose lock in a notch

    • @ACP_1123
      @ACP_1123 Рік тому +1

      @@adrfarling5503 you and I have very different experiences it seems

    • @derkaiser9881
      @derkaiser9881 Рік тому

      @@ACP_1123 Half the time notching doesn't seem necessary. A few buddies and myself found that if you just fly like not quite perpendicular, but at like a 70 degree angle to the MiG's radar, popping chaff does it. Alone. So sad.

    • @ACP_1123
      @ACP_1123 Рік тому +1

      @@derkaiser9881 this is usually my experience with the mig, and it’s frustrating to no end seeing a jet fly straight and pop chaff once to break my missile

  • @Banzai713
    @Banzai713 Рік тому +1

    USA main's when USSR an Germany gets a good top tier plane😡😡😡😡

  • @johncortez8437
    @johncortez8437 Рік тому

    Neither, its a good counterpart to the f16.
    We dont talk about the tornado.

  • @Storlans
    @Storlans Рік тому

    Mig-29 is op.

  • @angeldeath3685
    @angeldeath3685 Рік тому +1

    Look awesome but crap loadout wtf R60M are very very crap vs alll 4th gen jets few flare oneee flare and missile fail and only 2 r27 dont worth it for now

  • @wotman7281
    @wotman7281 8 місяців тому

    ZOV

  • @JAMO-_o0o
    @JAMO-_o0o Рік тому

    First

  • @avtomat6471
    @avtomat6471 Рік тому +1

    🇷🇺💪

  • @WhenindoubtFox-3
    @WhenindoubtFox-3 Рік тому

    So is it better than the F-14 or not?

    • @verscy8726
      @verscy8726 Рік тому +3

      yes

    • @DaddySlayer_
      @DaddySlayer_ Рік тому +3

      In a dogfight but the f14 is still a goat at bvr fights

    • @theamericancommie727
      @theamericancommie727 Рік тому +2

      @@verscy8726 no

    • @michagysin3082
      @michagysin3082 Рік тому

      @@DaddySlayer_ The f q4 radar is GOAT in range and even it is a head on and not an all aspect radar i dont have problems with enemys flying away to side or to me with lock

    • @michagysin3082
      @michagysin3082 Рік тому

      @@perennialE I mean the f14 i made a mistake

  • @lulgame2768
    @lulgame2768 Рік тому

    Hohol 🐷🤡