I’ve been waiting for this ever since this series began. It has not disappointed! I have to listen to this in increments - it’s hitting hard. Thank you for this, Drew!
Thanks for watching and for the affirmation! I’m sure I’m a bit influenced by the 4 in a way 😉 If at all interested send me your email through instagram or my email to be on my mailing list Insta - @drewnewkirkpsychotherapy OR Drew@DrewNewkirk.com Either way, I appreciate you Drew
Really enjoyed both videos. Much more insight than other 3 videos I have watched. Probably because you have the 3 wing. What is your MBTI Drew? I always thought all the 4’s and 9’s were INFP, but you don’t seem an INFP.
@@StacyRenardPiano thanks 🙏🏼 I have no idea. I get this question all the time. I’m going to either take the test or have a cut and paste answer. Took the test in grad school but it didn’t resonate so much But someday soon I’ll take it 😉
I think on the last video, and on the four wing three video I talk about my own journey. I’m a four wing three, but I’m pretty balanced, especially now that I’m 45 and have been in therapy for 20 years and a therapist for 20 years. My second highest number is three when I score, and my third is an eight or a seven. I have a lot of three in me, but for example, right now I’m in the Swiss Alps writing a book for the last month and a half by myself, so there’s a lot of five also.
I've never been independently enneagram assessed, but pretty sure I am 3w2. I can see that I name drop, and tell about accomplishments, etc, but I'm very very careful not to bend the truth when doing so. I'm struggling with this being labeled deceipt. But am too too much concerned about vanity. And I am very ardently concerned about being authentic. Does this mean I am deciding my self on decieving myself? Or maybe not a 3?
You probably have a strong 4 wing as well. And, go watch my video on enneagram 3 subtypes because there are 3 types of 3’s, they look very different Also, check out my video on the 4w3, it’s similar to the 3w4 and I think you probably have a blend of the 4 as well as the 2. Either way, you’re on the right path
Thanks so much for watching! I put a hard boundary on my time in the last year so I could write a book, which I just finished the first draft 🙌🏼 Know that I always appreciate every remark/response and try to get back to each and every one. Anyways, I’m back 👊🏼 If at all interested send me your email through instagram or my email to be on my mailing list Insta - @drewnewkirkpsychotherapy OR Drew@DrewNewkirk.com Thanks for the affirmation Drew
@@siryoucantdothat9743 in the literature out there you’ll see that idea for sure. On a spectrum sure. Depressive disorders as well but as always these things are dependent on health levels. Borderline can be quite disturbing in severity and is highly manipulative. In most of the 4’s I know the manipulative component isn’t there. But, I hope I hang with healthier people
@@drewnewkirk totally agree with your point about the health levels , the stunning thing about the enneagram is you can see how you can disintegrate into these clinical names “ personality disorders “ but i think i found a connection in why exactly type 4 and type 6 can become a borderline i dont think its a coincidence that these disorders are on the border of type 5 which is very much about individuals fears being overwhelmed and going insane or the fear of psychotic break , usually type 6 will exhibit the full blown borderline characteristic when unhealthy becoming a text book abusive/explosive borderline when disintegrating into type 3 add the five wing then this individual is on the border of neurosis and psychosis same goes for type 4 when stressed becoming manipulative like a 2 , both types 4-6 are highly neurotic and cant “ function “ which is another crucial factor in borderline personality. they need saviors/ guiders because of the emotional dysregulation some people refer to the savior / guider as “ favorite person“ without them realizing it’s actually a savior who they can rely on as an external ego to compensate for the inferiority complex felt inside or the ego weakness Kernberg (1975) described borderline patients as having “nonspecific ego weakness” (i.e., multiple deficits in the psy- chological practices fostering adaptive functioning) mostly the type of attachment for the two type is dismissive avoidant or fearful avoidant depending on how the aggression is manifested ( internalized vs externalized ) Both types have so many trust issues with authorities and carrying responsibilities i think the four are more self aware of these problems the 6 just bite more than they can shew then you will see mr jekyll and mr hyde affect in sixes they become sadistic and counter-phobic but on the wrong target usually hitting a weaker person for the burden they had to carry, while type four sabotage themselves if the burden is too heavy or just flee completely or escape through drugs and other addictions but personally as a four i never shift the blame or deny my failures i dont know about other fours but if that is a four thing then it’s honorable, i have seen sixes admitting mistakes but go back on the same cycles of seeking security in the worst ways possible somedays they’re grandiose and others are inferior i guess they’re both sadistic and masochistic
I’ve been waiting for this ever since this series began. It has not disappointed! I have to listen to this in increments - it’s hitting hard. Thank you for this, Drew!
The first 28 minutes I hope stuck a healing knife into your gut. Trust the surgeon though
Self awareness is one of the greatest indicators of success.
There is more of a desire to be admired than loved.
Self-approval
Identification:
Shifting self to impress
You must fulfill the way that is yours. - Carl Jung
May you live fully in how you were created.
“Yes, we have to talk about feelings … I am sorry to do this!” LOL LOL LOL I am dying … so true
You get a pass. Carry on 😂
This is so humbling. You described so many aspects of my life I feel like you’ve been a fly on the wall. Lol
We are just at the beginning R!
Really enjoy your work as was looking forward tk this video on the 3. It feels more like a comparison of 3w4 to 4w3 than a 3 video itself.
Thanks for watching and for the affirmation! I’m sure I’m a bit influenced by the 4 in a way 😉
If at all interested send me your email through instagram or my email to be on my mailing list
Insta - @drewnewkirkpsychotherapy OR Drew@DrewNewkirk.com
Either way, I appreciate you
Drew
I just had to pause this to go and listen to In Your Eyes (New Blood version) by Peter Gabriel! Great tune!! :)
Such a beautiful song
Kinda sits in a league of songs that is transcendent
Wow, beautifully done 👍💜🙏
Thanks Jaclyn. This one really took some time as I wanted to get it right for myself as well as anyone watching
Glad you came along for the ride.
Drew
So excited to listen to this tomorrow…finally thanks so much!
My pleasure
Really enjoyed both videos. Much more insight than other 3 videos I have watched. Probably because you have the 3 wing. What is your MBTI Drew? I always thought all the 4’s and 9’s were INFP, but you don’t seem an INFP.
@@StacyRenardPiano thanks 🙏🏼 I have no idea. I get this question all the time. I’m going to either take the test or have a cut and paste answer. Took the test in grad school but it didn’t resonate so much
But someday soon I’ll take it 😉
Hi Drew, I am a 3 wing 2. I am so curious if you are a 4 wing 5 or 4 wing 3? Love your videos and Instagram posts!
I think on the last video, and on the four wing three video I talk about my own journey. I’m a four wing three, but I’m pretty balanced, especially now that I’m 45 and have been in therapy for 20 years and a therapist for 20 years. My second highest number is three when I score, and my third is an eight or a seven. I have a lot of three in me, but for example, right now I’m in the Swiss Alps writing a book for the last month and a half by myself, so there’s a lot of five also.
I've never been independently enneagram assessed, but pretty sure I am 3w2. I can see that I name drop, and tell about accomplishments, etc, but I'm very very careful not to bend the truth when doing so. I'm struggling with this being labeled deceipt. But am too too much concerned about vanity. And I am very ardently concerned about being authentic. Does this mean I am deciding my self on decieving myself? Or maybe not a 3?
You probably have a strong 4 wing as well. And, go watch my video on enneagram 3 subtypes because there are 3 types of 3’s, they look very different
Also, check out my video on the 4w3, it’s similar to the 3w4 and I think you probably have a blend of the 4 as well as the 2.
Either way, you’re on the right path
Please come back to UA-cam
Thanks so much for watching! I put a hard boundary on my time in the last year so I could write a book, which I just finished the first draft 🙌🏼 Know that I always appreciate every remark/response and try to get back to each and every one. Anyways, I’m back 👊🏼
If at all interested send me your email through instagram or my email to be on my mailing list
Insta - @drewnewkirkpsychotherapy OR Drew@DrewNewkirk.com
Thanks for the affirmation
Drew
How do you test yourself to find out your type?
I believe I put the test I like best on my recent videos in the description
Especially the “enneagram overview” video
Just say we are abit more narcissistic lol
We all are but it’s more obvious for certain numbers 😂
@@drewnewkirk 😂😂😂😂😂
@@drewnewkirk hey drew i wanted to share something with you , is it true that type 4 is the borderline?
@@siryoucantdothat9743 in the literature out there you’ll see that idea for sure. On a spectrum sure. Depressive disorders as well but as always these things are dependent on health levels. Borderline can be quite disturbing in severity and is highly manipulative. In most of the 4’s I know the manipulative component isn’t there. But, I hope I hang with healthier people
@@drewnewkirk totally agree with your point about the health levels , the stunning thing about the enneagram is you can see how you can disintegrate into these clinical names “ personality disorders “ but i think i found a connection in why exactly type 4 and type 6 can become a borderline i dont think its a coincidence that these disorders are on the border of type 5 which is very much about individuals fears being overwhelmed and going insane or the fear of psychotic break , usually type 6 will exhibit the full blown borderline characteristic when unhealthy becoming a text book abusive/explosive borderline when disintegrating into type 3 add the five wing then this individual is on the border of neurosis and psychosis same goes for type 4 when stressed becoming manipulative like a 2 , both types 4-6 are highly neurotic and cant “ function “ which is another crucial factor in borderline personality.
they need saviors/ guiders because of the emotional dysregulation some people refer to the savior / guider as “ favorite person“ without them realizing it’s actually a savior who they can rely on as an external ego to compensate for the inferiority complex felt inside or the ego weakness
Kernberg (1975) described borderline patients as having “nonspecific ego weakness” (i.e., multiple deficits in the psy- chological practices fostering adaptive functioning)
mostly the type of attachment for the two type is dismissive avoidant or fearful avoidant depending on how the aggression is manifested ( internalized vs externalized )
Both types have so many trust issues with authorities and carrying responsibilities i think the four are more self aware of these problems the 6 just bite more than they can shew then you will see mr jekyll and mr hyde affect in sixes they become sadistic and counter-phobic but on the wrong target usually hitting a weaker person for the burden they had to carry, while type four sabotage themselves if the burden is too heavy or just flee completely or escape through drugs and other addictions but personally as a four i never shift the blame or deny my failures i dont know about other fours but if that is a four thing then it’s honorable, i have seen sixes admitting mistakes but go back on the same cycles of seeking security in the worst ways possible somedays they’re grandiose and others are inferior i guess they’re both sadistic and masochistic